Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

['Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries]

On 3/1/24 09:17, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries wrote:

I use Word, Excel, and OneDrive on the MacBook Pro M1. I have not had
any issues with accessibility. I have Office 365 but have not played
with the other Office Apps even though they are on my Mac.


A few notes on Microsoft Word for Mac:

1. Loading large documents (for example 50 pages) is a very slow process 
even on a fast M1 Pro machine. I don't know whether it's Apple's or 
Microsoft's bug. The fact that Pages doesn't have this problem suggests 
it's an MS-Word issue.


2. Use Print Layout, otherwise the document being edited won't be very 
accessible with VoiceOver.


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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

['Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries]

I use Word, Excel, and OneDrive on the MacBook Pro M1. I have not had any 
issues with accessibility. I have Office 365 but have not played with the other 
Office Apps even though they are on my Mac. I did put both word and Excel on my 
Dock for faster access. And removed Pages, and Numbers since I also have a 
Windows 11 Pro and can move between the two computers. Especially with OneDrive 
helping me with document management. Oh, I also have OneNote but have not 
really played with it even though it is supposed to be getting better with the 
latest version. I did install it but have not had time to teach myself all the 
ins and out yet.
Word and Excel are great though. I also have them on my iPhone 14 Pro Max along 
with ONeDrive. And the rest of Office for when I have time to play and learn.
Merv


> On Jan 3, 2024, at 8:08 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
> I’m going back to school and they apparently provide Microsoft Office apps 
> for free.
> 
> I thought maybe I should try to use them so that there aren’t any issues 
> converting from Pages to Word and so on.
> 
> What is the accessibility like in the Office apps for Mac though? I 
> downloaded them and so far Word at least seems to be working pretty well.
> 
> Any suggestions or thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

[Brad Snyder]

Sorry, responded to the wrong message.  :)


- Brad -



On Jan 3, 2024, at 07:36, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

Sorry for the confusion but I’m using these applications on the Mac, not 
Windows.

> On Jan 3, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> In Windows 10, Win + B, puts Windows keyboard focus on the System 
> Tray/Notification area.
> It does the same in Windows 11.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2024, at 07:08, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
> I’m going back to school and they apparently provide Microsoft Office apps 
> for free.
> 
> I thought maybe I should try to use them so that there aren’t any issues 
> converting from Pages to Word and so on.
> 
> What is the accessibility like in the Office apps for Mac though? I 
> downloaded them and so far Word at least seems to be working pretty well.
> 
> Any suggestions or thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

[Brandon Olivares]

Sorry for the confusion but I’m using these applications on the Mac, not 
Windows.

> On Jan 3, 2024, at 8:32 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> In Windows 10, Win + B, puts Windows keyboard focus on the System 
> Tray/Notification area.
> It does the same in Windows 11.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2024, at 07:08, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
> I’m going back to school and they apparently provide Microsoft Office apps 
> for free.
> 
> I thought maybe I should try to use them so that there aren’t any issues 
> converting from Pages to Word and so on.
> 
> What is the accessibility like in the Office apps for Mac though? I 
> downloaded them and so far Word at least seems to be working pretty well.
> 
> Any suggestions or thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brandon
> 
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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

[Brad Snyder]

In Windows 10, Win + B, puts Windows keyboard focus on the System 
Tray/Notification area.
It does the same in Windows 11.

- Brad -



On Jan 3, 2024, at 07:08, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

I’m going back to school and they apparently provide Microsoft Office apps for 
free.

I thought maybe I should try to use them so that there aren’t any issues 
converting from Pages to Word and so on.

What is the accessibility like in the Office apps for Mac though? I downloaded 
them and so far Word at least seems to be working pretty well.

Any suggestions or thoughts?

Thanks,
Brandon

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Microsoft Word for Mac

[Brandon Olivares]

I’m going back to school and they apparently provide Microsoft Office apps for 
free.

I thought maybe I should try to use them so that there aren’t any issues 
converting from Pages to Word and so on.

What is the accessibility like in the Office apps for Mac though? I downloaded 
them and so far Word at least seems to be working pretty well.

Any suggestions or thoughts?

Thanks,
Brandon

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Re: Working with textboxes in Microsoft Word on mac

[Julie Rattray]

Yes they really drive me round the twist sometimes - as from my experience so 
many screen readers seem simply to jump over them and pretend they are not 
there!

> On 1 Aug 2023, at 14:08, Suzanne Erb  wrote:
> 
> I would be interested as well. Thank you so much to anyone who can figure 
> this out. Text boxes are the bane of my existence! I need to read so many 
> documents that include them. Have a great day, Suzanne.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 1, 2023, at 09:01, Julie Rattray  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I would be interested in this answer as I have honestly never found a way 
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2023, at 09:47, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to work successfully with textboxes in Ms Word on the mac?  
>>> I mean move from one box to another, read its content and / or write in 
>>> them?  I have to fill in a questionnaire which is full of textboxes and I 
>>> have no idea how to complete the task.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for any tips.
>>> 
>>> Andrew 
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Re: Working with textboxes in Microsoft Word on mac

[Suzanne Erb]

I would be interested as well. Thank you so much to anyone who can figure this 
out. Text boxes are the bane of my existence! I need to read so many documents 
that include them. Have a great day, Suzanne.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 1, 2023, at 09:01, Julie Rattray  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would be interested in this answer as I have honestly never found a way 
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2023, at 09:47, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is it possible to work successfully with textboxes in Ms Word on the mac?  I 
>> mean move from one box to another, read its content and / or write in them?  
>> I have to fill in a questionnaire which is full of textboxes and I have no 
>> idea how to complete the task.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any tips.
>> 
>> Andrew 
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Re: Working with textboxes in Microsoft Word on mac

[Julie Rattray]

Hi,

I would be interested in this answer as I have honestly never found a way 

> On 15 Jul 2023, at 09:47, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to work successfully with textboxes in Ms Word on the mac?  I 
> mean move from one box to another, read its content and / or write in them?  
> I have to fill in a questionnaire which is full of textboxes and I have no 
> idea how to complete the task.
> 
> Many thanks for any tips.
> 
> Andrew 
> 
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Working with textboxes in Microsoft Word on mac

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Is it possible to work successfully with textboxes in Ms Word on the mac?  I 
mean move from one box to another, read its content and / or write in them?  I 
have to fill in a questionnaire which is full of textboxes and I have no idea 
how to complete the task.

Many thanks for any tips.

Andrew 

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Re: Microsoft Word

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   The version on my Mac now is from the Mac App store. It is kept 
updated. Word is the only Microsoft app on the Mac. But all the apps are 
installed on my Windows and I am not sure if it is worth the trouble to 
remove all but Word.


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On 3/19/2023 3:02 PM, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries wrote:


On 19/3/23 12:39, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Currently I subscribe to Microsoft 365 which runs on Windows and Mac. 
Curious if anyone is running a stand alone version of Microsoft Word 
for the Mac that you purchased outright?


No, I'm also using Microsoft 365 - the version that can be purchased 
outright isn't kept up to date with new features as Microsoft 365 is. I 
don't know whether it receives accessibility enhancements.




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Re: Microsoft Word

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On 19/3/23 12:39, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Currently I subscribe to Microsoft 365 which runs on Windows and Mac. 
Curious if anyone is running a stand alone version of Microsoft Word 
for the Mac that you purchased outright?


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Re: Microsoft Word

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   Whups, ignore this.

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    Cureently I subscribe to Microsoft 365 whcih runs on Windows and 
Mac. Curious if anyone is running a stand alone version of Microsoft 
Word for the Mac that is purchased outright?


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Microsoft Word

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   Currently I subscribe to Microsoft 365 which runs on Windows and 
Mac. Curious if anyone is running a stand alone version of Microsoft 
Word for the Mac that you purchased outright?


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Microsoft Word

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   Cureently I subscribe to Microsoft 365 whcih runs on Windows and 
Mac. Curious if anyone is running a stand alone version of Microsoft 
Word for the Mac that is purchased outright?


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Re: VO stop reading Microsoft Word

[Lucas Gil Nadolskis]

I agree with both of you that pages would be better.
In fact, I have mostly used either pages, text edit or LaTeX.

However, for this specific project I need to use word since it is a group 
collaboration.

I don’t think it is a bug. I have two computers with the exactly configuration 
and software versions, in one I have the issue, in the other everything is fine.

Thank you very much.

Kind regards.

Lucas Nadolskis.


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>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 11:00, Lucas Gil Nadolskis  wrote:
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>> Just got an interesting issue on my Mac.
>> VO just decided to not read the letters while I am typing in word.
>> I can read what I type, but the echo when typing is just not there.
> It’s probably a bug. Find out what was updated most recently (Microsoft 
> Office or Mac OS). Whichever it is, it probably bears responsibility, and I 
> would suggest reporting it to the appropriate vendor.
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Re: VO stop reading Microsoft Word

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

> On Sep 20, 2022, at 11:00, Lucas Gil Nadolskis  wrote:
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> Just got an interesting issue on my Mac.
> VO just decided to not read the letters while I am typing in word.
> I can read what I type, but the echo when typing is just not there.
It’s probably a bug. Find out what was updated most recently (Microsoft Office 
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Re: VO stop reading Microsoft Word

[Herbie Allen]

Word is finicky with Mac. I prefer to use pages when possible.

> On Sep 20, 2022, at 10:00, Lucas Gil Nadolskis  wrote:
> 
> Hey all.
> Just got an interesting issue on my Mac.
> VO just decided to not read the letters while I am typing in word.
> I can read what I type, but the echo when typing is just not there.
> 
> This issue happens only in word, but in any document.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Kind regards.
> 
> Lucas Nadolskis.
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VO stop reading Microsoft Word

[Lucas Gil Nadolskis]

Hey all.
Just got an interesting issue on my Mac.
VO just decided to not read the letters while I am typing in word.
I can read what I type, but the echo when typing is just not there.

This issue happens only in word, but in any document.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you very much.

Kind regards.

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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

[Thomas Frank]

Recently, a friend had the same problem. He call Microsoft and Apple support 
and they could not figure it out. Then, suddenly, it worked. Who knows?
Thomas Frank
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> On Feb 5, 2022, at 6:29 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> When you open a document in Microsoft Word for Mac, you should automatically 
> be placed in the document area (without having to interact with it), and you 
> should be able to use ordinary arrow keys to navigate the text – assuming 
> that Qucik Nav is turned off.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Brad Snyder 
> Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 15:44
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
> usable with voiceover?
> 
> Make sure you interact with the document area.
>  
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 14:19, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> Hi  the problem is  I can find the  body of  a  document, will using  word. 
> I am abled  to find  menus, the toolbar and other controls just fine  but  
> can’t  read any text that  is  in  the  file.
>  
> Ps I  am typing  this  by hand  and I  am  not  using  dictation software , 
> please  for give  any  spelling  mistakes?
>  
> Maurice Mines
> 
> 
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>  
> It should just work. I don't recall having to do anything to make Microsoft 
> Word accessible on the Mac.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 12:24, maurice mines  wrote:
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> How  shud I setup Microsoft Word so  that  it  works  correctly for  
> accessibility? I may  have  something  setup wrong, any thoughts?
>  
> Maurice Mines.
> 
> 
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>  
> Same here. I have had no problem using Microsoft Word on my Mac. Definitely 
> not the same experience as using Word on a Windows PC, but it is very usable 
> and accessible.
>  
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:28, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> I haven’t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
> recent Office 365 releases.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Maurice Mines 
> Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
> usable with voiceover?
> 
> Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word 
> that was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read 
> this document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that 
> actually appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other 
> words can I get to the point that I can actually read the whole document 
> instead of all the tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am 
> dictating this to my phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can 
> understand this message?
> 
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Re: Mathtype and Microsoft Word

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

You would need to ask someone who has MathType.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Lucas Gil Nadolskis 
Date: Tuesday, 8February, 2022 at 08:27
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Mathtype and Microsoft Word
Do you have any advice of how to do that export?

Thanks.

Lucas.



On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:23 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

If you can export it to HTML with MathML included, then it will be read 
correctly in a browser. So far as I know, that’s the only solution, but it 
should be fine if all you need is to read the document.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on 
behalf of Lucas Gil Nadolskis mailto:nadols...@cmu.edu>>
Date: Monday, 7February, 2022 at 20:28
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Mathtype and Microsoft Word
Hello All.
Is there anyway to make VO read Mathtype expressions correctly?
When I use word it only tells me:
Field

I know that the MathType is correct because the same document is read perfectly 
by jaws on my windows.
Thanks.

Lucas.

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Re: Mathtype and Microsoft Word

[Lucas Gil Nadolskis]

Do you have any advice of how to do that export?

Thanks.

Lucas.


> On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:23 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> If you can export it to HTML with MathML included, then it will be read 
> correctly in a browser. So far as I know, that’s the only solution, but it 
> should be fine if all you need is to read the document.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Lucas Gil Nadolskis 
> Date: Monday, 7February, 2022 at 20:28
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Mathtype and Microsoft Word
> 
> Hello All.
> Is there anyway to make VO read Mathtype expressions correctly?
> When I use word it only tells me:
> Field
> 
> I know that the MathType is correct because the same document is read 
> perfectly by jaws on my windows.
> Thanks.
> 
> Lucas.
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Re: Mathtype and Microsoft Word

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

If you can export it to HTML with MathML included, then it will be read 
correctly in a browser. So far as I know, that’s the only solution, but it 
should be fine if all you need is to read the document.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Lucas Gil Nadolskis 
Date: Monday, 7February, 2022 at 20:28
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Mathtype and Microsoft Word
Hello All.
Is there anyway to make VO read Mathtype expressions correctly?
When I use word it only tells me:
Field

I know that the MathType is correct because the same document is read perfectly 
by jaws on my windows.
Thanks.

Lucas.

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Mathtype and Microsoft Word

[Lucas Gil Nadolskis]

Hello All.
Is there anyway to make VO read Mathtype expressions correctly?
When I use word it only tells me:
Field

I know that the MathType is correct because the same document is read perfectly 
by jaws on my windows.
Thanks.

Lucas.

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Re: A clarification regarding my email that I just sent and put it relates to Microsoft word, are there different versions of Microsoft Word for the Mac the version I am running is the version within

[maurice mines]

hello, I happen to agree with you. Because I have a written expression 
disorder I'd say the 85 to 90% of the time when I have something to 
write in Microsoft Word I will use the Windows version. That's just 
simply because Dragon is only available for windows.



Let's talk about that virtual machine for second. I am having a great 
deal of problems with parallels. Specifically the programmed auto starts 
whenever I boot this machine. For some reason the program also launches 
team viewer automatically on the Mac side. Do you, or anyone else on 
this list know a good way to get this to stop. Because the other thing 
that happens is because parallels remains in the background or even in 
memory somewhere. When the machine goes to sleep it doesn't go to sleep 
in fact it crashes Microsoft's power management causing the machine to 
crash and I get the error that the sleep cycle is in the process that 
starts the sleep cycle crashes after 180 seconds according to the file 
that I was able to capture from the crash reporter. The issues regarding 
what I just described above have become so severe, that hopefully before 
this next week without a second computer that is windows only will come 
and I will leave the virtual machine world in favor of a separate 
machine so as to avoid the constant crashing when I'm not at my computer 
for any length of time. Or as I mentioned above especially when it comes 
time to just put the machine to sleep. I think that's a better way to 
manage its power at night or when I choose to leave it on and turn in 
for the evening.



I realize this might be a lengthy email. But please bear with me. The 
issues which I've described have become quite frustrating at times.



Now let me while I have the dictation software's attention. Let you know 
that I did figure out a way to get word for the Mac to display text 
appropriately not only in speech but more importantly in braille. 
Because I'm deaf blind. That means that although both Windows and my Mac 
I have screen reading programs that speak a lot. I really do rely on 
braille. So it is critically important that I have braille access on 
both sides of the machine. In closing I guess I'd say I would keep this 
virtual machine on this machine for whenever I can't take the new 
machine along or for whenever it's inconvenient to use the second 
machine but parallels, and team viewer, autoloading at the start of my 
Max boot up and parts of the system sticking around when I put the 
machine to sleep and/or forget to shut it down is rapidly becoming a 
dealbreaker. Any thoughts from anyone?



As you can guess just be aware that I am dictating everything that is 
written above to the computer so here's hoping that it all turned out 
okay. If there's something that I've written that you truly do not 
understand, drop me a line and ask me what my original intent might have 
been. I look forward to clearing up any concerns you might have based on 
everything that I've written above. Thank all of you in advance for 
reading all of this. Have a great evening.



Sincerely Maurice Mines.

On 2/5/2022 4:50 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Hello,
There are at least three different versions of Word for Mac .
1. Downloaded from Microsoft directly.
2. Installed via the Apple App Store.
3. The web based Outlook.

Hopefully you are not attempting to use that last one. The other two 
should be fairly close to each other, though the one in the App Store 
must go through some approvals from Apple in addition to the Microsoft 
internal and "insider" reviews.
But I have been able to use Microsoft 365 for about three years with 
no hard issues like what you describe.
I do have some troubles navigating tables, but since I run a Windows 
VM on the same machine that I use for word processing, I find it 
easier to use Word on that side.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Feb 5, 2022, at 00:35, Maurice Mines  
wrote:


Hello everyone, here is some clarification regarding the email and I 
sent earlier to the list. I am using the version of Microsoft Word 
can change in office 365. Also just so that it’s clear I’m running 
old S 1012.0.2. Hopefully this clears things up. Hopefully my phone 
got all of this correctly so that someone can understand me as I am 
dictating it to my phone.


maurice Mines
Maurice mines.
Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California 
Bakersfield chapter.

Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
Direct phone number,  661-241-3788

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Re: A clarification regarding my email that I just sent and put it relates to Microsoft word, are there different versions of Microsoft Word for the Mac the version I am running is the version within

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

To clarify, all of my comments refer to the Office 365 desktop version for Mac 
downloaded from Microsoft.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Jonathan Cohn 
Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 19:50
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: A clarification regarding my email that I just sent and put it 
relates to Microsoft word, are there different versions of Microsoft Word for 
the Mac the version I am running is the version within office 365. Does this 
make a difference in accessibi...
Hello,
There are at least three different versions of Word for Mac .
1. Downloaded from Microsoft directly.
2. Installed via the Apple App Store.
3. The web based Outlook.

Hopefully you are not attempting to use that last one. The other two should be 
fairly close to each other, though the one in the App Store must go through 
some approvals from Apple in addition to the Microsoft internal and "insider" 
reviews.
But I have been able to use Microsoft 365 for about three years with no hard 
issues like what you describe.
I do have some troubles navigating tables, but since I run a Windows VM on the 
same machine that I use for word processing, I find it easier to use Word on 
that side.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Feb 5, 2022, at 00:35, Maurice Mines 
mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:

Hello everyone, here is some clarification regarding the email and I sent 
earlier to the list. I am using the version of Microsoft Word can change in 
office 365. Also just so that it’s clear I’m running old S 1012.0.2. Hopefully 
this clears things up. Hopefully my phone got all of this correctly so that 
someone can understand me as I am dictating it to my phone.

maurice Mines
Maurice mines.
Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
chapter.
Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
Direct phone number,  661-241-3788

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Re: A clarification regarding my email that I just sent and put it relates to Microsoft word, are there different versions of Microsoft Word for the Mac the version I am running is the version within

[Jonathan Cohn]

Hello,
There are at least three different versions of Word for Mac .
1. Downloaded from Microsoft directly.
2. Installed via the Apple App Store.
3. The web based Outlook.

Hopefully you are not attempting to use that last one. The other two should be 
fairly close to each other, though the one in the App Store must go through 
some approvals from Apple in addition to the Microsoft internal and "insider" 
reviews.
But I have been able to use Microsoft 365 for about three years with no hard 
issues like what you describe.
I do have some troubles navigating tables, but since I run a Windows VM on the 
same machine that I use for word processing, I find it easier to use Word on 
that side.
 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Feb 5, 2022, at 00:35, Maurice Mines  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone, here is some clarification regarding the email and I sent 
> earlier to the list. I am using the version of Microsoft Word can change in 
> office 365. Also just so that it’s clear I’m running old S 1012.0.2. 
> Hopefully this clears things up. Hopefully my phone got all of this correctly 
> so that someone can understand me as I am dictating it to my phone. 
> 
> maurice Mines  
> Maurice mines.
> Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
> Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
> chapter.
> Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
> Direct phone number,  661-241-3788 
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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

When you open a document in Microsoft Word for Mac, you should automatically be 
placed in the document area (without having to interact with it), and you 
should be able to use ordinary arrow keys to navigate the text – assuming that 
Qucik Nav is turned off.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Brad Snyder 
Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 15:44
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
usable with voiceover?
Make sure you interact with the document area.

- Brad -

On Feb 5, 2022, at 14:19, maurice mines  wrote:
Hi  the problem is  I can find the  body of  a  document, will using  word. I 
am abled  to find  menus, the toolbar and other controls just fine  but  can’t  
read any text that  is  in  the  file.

Ps I  am typing  this  by hand  and I  am  not  using  dictation software , 
please  for give  any  spelling  mistakes?

Maurice Mines


On Feb 5, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

It should just work. I don't recall having to do anything to make Microsoft 
Word accessible on the Mac.
- Brad -

On Feb 5, 2022, at 12:24, maurice mines 
mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
How  shud I setup Microsoft Word so  that  it  works  correctly for  
accessibility? I may  have  something  setup wrong, any thoughts?

Maurice Mines.


On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Same here. I have had no problem using Microsoft Word on my Mac. Definitely not 
the same experience as using Word on a Windows PC, but it is very usable and 
accessible.

- Brad -

On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:28, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

I haven’t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
recent Office 365 releases.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on 
behalf of Maurice Mines 
mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>>
Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
usable with voiceover?
Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word that 
was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read this 
document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that actually 
appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other words can I 
get to the point that I can actually read the whole document instead of all the 
tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am dictating this to my 
phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can understand this message?

maurice Mines
Maurice mines.
Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
chapter.
Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

[Karen Lewellen]

Maurice,
Given that accessibility means different things to different people, can 
you  walk the list through what specifically happens for you when trying 
to read  the document?
Have you tried reading other word files in case the issue is document 
related?

Just some thoughts,
Karen



On Sat, 5 Feb 2022, maurice mines wrote:


How  shud I setup Microsoft Word so  that  it  works  correctly for  
accessibility? I may  have  something  setup wrong, any thoughts?

Maurice Mines.


On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:

Same here. I have had no problem using Microsoft Word on my Mac. Definitely not 
the same experience as using Word on a Windows PC, but it is very usable and 
accessible.

- Brad -

On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:28, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

???
I haven???t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
recent Office 365 releases.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Maurice 
Mines mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>>
Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
usable with voiceover?

Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word that 
was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read this 
document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that actually 
appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other words can I 
get to the point that I can actually read the whole document instead of all the 
tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am dictating this to my 
phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can understand this message?

maurice Mines
Maurice mines.
Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
chapter.
Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
Direct phone number,  661-241-3788

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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

[Brad Snyder]

Make sure you interact with the document area.


- Brad -

On Feb 5, 2022, at 14:19, maurice mines  wrote:

Hi  the problem is  I can find the  body of  a  document, will using  word. I 
am abled  to find  menus, the toolbar and other controls just fine  but  can’t  
read any text that  is  in  the  file.

Ps I  am typing  this  by hand  and I  am  not  using  dictation software , 
please  for give  any  spelling  mistakes?

Maurice Mines

> On Feb 5, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> It should just work. I don't recall having to do anything to make Microsoft 
> Word accessible on the Mac.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 12:24, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> How  shud I setup Microsoft Word so  that  it  works  correctly for  
> accessibility? I may  have  something  setup wrong, any thoughts?
> 
> Maurice Mines.
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
>> 
>> Same here. I have had no problem using Microsoft Word on my Mac. Definitely 
>> not the same experience as using Word on a Windows PC, but it is very usable 
>> and accessible.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:28, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I haven’t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
>> recent Office 365 releases.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
>> behalf of Maurice Mines 
>> Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
>> usable with voiceover?
>> 
>> Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word 
>> that was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read 
>> this document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that 
>> actually appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other 
>> words can I get to the point that I can actually read the whole document 
>> instead of all the tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am 
>> dictating this to my phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can 
>> understand this message?
>> 
>> maurice Mines  
>> Maurice mines.
>> Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
>> Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
>> chapter.
>> Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
>> Direct phone number,  661-241-3788 
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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I can’t help with that problem. As I said, it has been working well for me for 
quite a while now (at least the past few years).
You should probably lodge a support case with Microsoft Accessibility.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of maurice mines 
Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 15:19
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
usable with voiceover?
Hi  the problem is  I can find the  body of  a  document, will using  word. I 
am abled  to find  menus, the toolbar and other controls just fine  but  can’t  
read any text that  is  in  the  file.

Ps I  am typing  this  by hand  and I  am  not  using  dictation software , 
please  for give  any  spelling  mistakes?

Maurice Mines


On Feb 5, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

It should just work. I don't recall having to do anything to make Microsoft 
Word accessible on the Mac.
- Brad -

On Feb 5, 2022, at 12:24, maurice mines 
mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>> wrote:
How  shud I setup Microsoft Word so  that  it  works  correctly for  
accessibility? I may  have  something  setup wrong, any thoughts?

Maurice Mines.


On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

Same here. I have had no problem using Microsoft Word on my Mac. Definitely not 
the same experience as using Word on a Windows PC, but it is very usable and 
accessible.

- Brad -

On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:28, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

I haven’t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
recent Office 365 releases.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on 
behalf of Maurice Mines 
mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>>
Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
usable with voiceover?
Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word that 
was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read this 
document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that actually 
appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other words can I 
get to the point that I can actually read the whole document instead of all the 
tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am dictating this to my 
phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can understand this message?

maurice Mines
Maurice mines.
Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
chapter.
Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
Direct phone number,  661-241-3788

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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

[maurice mines]

Hi  the problem is  I can find the  body of  a  document, will using  word. I 
am abled  to find  menus, the toolbar and other controls just fine  but  can’t  
read any text that  is  in  the  file.

Ps I  am typing  this  by hand  and I  am  not  using  dictation software , 
please  for give  any  spelling  mistakes?

Maurice Mines

> On Feb 5, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> It should just work. I don't recall having to do anything to make Microsoft 
> Word accessible on the Mac.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 12:24, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> How  shud I setup Microsoft Word so  that  it  works  correctly for  
> accessibility? I may  have  something  setup wrong, any thoughts?
> 
> Maurice Mines.
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Same here. I have had no problem using Microsoft Word on my Mac. Definitely 
>> not the same experience as using Word on a Windows PC, but it is very usable 
>> and accessible.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:28, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I haven’t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
>> recent Office 365 releases.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Maurice Mines 
>> mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>>
>> Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>> Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
>> usable with voiceover?
>> 
>> Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word 
>> that was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read 
>> this document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that 
>> actually appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other 
>> words can I get to the point that I can actually read the whole document 
>> instead of all the tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am 
>> dictating this to my phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can 
>> understand this message?
>> 
>> maurice Mines  
>> Maurice mines.
>> Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
>> Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
>> chapter.
>> Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
>> Direct phone number,  661-241-3788 
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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

[Brad Snyder]

It should just work. I don't recall having to do anything to make Microsoft 
Word accessible on the Mac.

- Brad -

On Feb 5, 2022, at 12:24, maurice mines  wrote:

How  shud I setup Microsoft Word so  that  it  works  correctly for  
accessibility? I may  have  something  setup wrong, any thoughts?

Maurice Mines.

> On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Same here. I have had no problem using Microsoft Word on my Mac. Definitely 
> not the same experience as using Word on a Windows PC, but it is very usable 
> and accessible.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:28, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I haven’t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
> recent Office 365 releases.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Maurice Mines 
> Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
> usable with voiceover?
> 
> Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word 
> that was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read 
> this document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that 
> actually appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other 
> words can I get to the point that I can actually read the whole document 
> instead of all the tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am 
> dictating this to my phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can 
> understand this message?
> 
> maurice Mines  
> Maurice mines.
> Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
> Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
> chapter.
> Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
> Direct phone number,  661-241-3788 
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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

[maurice mines]

How  shud I setup Microsoft Word so  that  it  works  correctly for  
accessibility? I may  have  something  setup wrong, any thoughts?

Maurice Mines.

> On Feb 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Same here. I have had no problem using Microsoft Word on my Mac. Definitely 
> not the same experience as using Word on a Windows PC, but it is very usable 
> and accessible.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:28, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I haven’t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
> recent Office 365 releases.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Maurice Mines 
> mailto:maur...@maurice-amines.com>>
> Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
> usable with voiceover?
> 
> Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word 
> that was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read 
> this document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that 
> actually appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other 
> words can I get to the point that I can actually read the whole document 
> instead of all the tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am 
> dictating this to my phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can 
> understand this message?
> 
> maurice Mines  
> Maurice mines.
> Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

[Brad Snyder]

Same here. I have had no problem using Microsoft Word on my Mac. Definitely not 
the same experience as using Word on a Windows PC, but it is very usable and 
accessible.

- Brad -

On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:28, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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I haven’t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
recent Office 365 releases.
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Maurice Mines 
Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
usable with voiceover?

Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word that 
was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read this 
document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that actually 
appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other words can I 
get to the point that I can actually read the whole document instead of all the 
tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am dictating this to my 
phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can understand this message?

maurice Mines  
Maurice mines.
Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
chapter.
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Direct phone number,  661-241-3788 

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Re: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

I haven’t had any trouble reading documents in Microsoft Word for Mac under 
recent Office 365 releases.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Maurice Mines 
Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 00:23
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely 
usable with voiceover?
Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word that 
was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read this 
document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that actually 
appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other words can I 
get to the point that I can actually read the whole document instead of all the 
tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am dictating this to my 
phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can understand this message?

maurice Mines
Maurice mines.
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Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
chapter.
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Direct phone number,  661-241-3788

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A clarification regarding my email that I just sent and put it relates to Microsoft word, are there different versions of Microsoft Word for the Mac the version I am running is the version within offi

[Maurice Mines]

Hello everyone, here is some clarification regarding the email and I sent 
earlier to the list. I am using the version of Microsoft Word can change in 
office 365. Also just so that it’s clear I’m running old S 1012.0.2. Hopefully 
this clears things up. Hopefully my phone got all of this correctly so that 
someone can understand me as I am dictating it to my phone. 

maurice Mines  
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A question about Microsoft Word for the Mac, is it even remotely usable with voiceover?

[Maurice Mines]

Hello everyone, earlier today I had to attempt to read a document in word that 
was being typed by a Nother person, when I went to go attempt to read this 
document I could not get the video cursor to focus on the text that actually 
appears in the document is there a way to make this easier in other words can I 
get to the point that I can actually read the whole document instead of all the 
tool and menu bars any thoughts? just be a where I am dictating this to my 
phone. Hope everyone is well, and hope everyone can understand this message?

maurice Mines  
Maurice mines.
Board member, National Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
Vice president National Federation a of the blind of California Bakersfield 
chapter.
Amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
Direct phone number,  661-241-3788 

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RE: Microsoft word on the Mac.

[Simon A Fogarty]

With office 365 you have a range of products you can purchase and that’s what 
it is,

I 2 have the office 365 suite on my notebooks both mac and windows,

I also have office 365 applications word excel powerpoint sway teams sharepoint 
outlook tasks
And groups in stalled to my iPhone and ipad

Yes there is a office suite that can be installed to the ipad and the iPhone,

The main thing is that with office 365 it’s an email / password activation to 
get these software packages working in a full state on the computer or mobile 
device.

With my package I also have the ability to share with 5 other people and 
install to up to 5 devices and also I can access documents on my web interface 
office applications
Also as for accessible office 365 web applications  are very accessible from 
what I can tell,

I use excel mainly on the net via teams and it’s fine,and with co authoring of 
documents you can see who does what in a document and with sharepoint tied in 
you can  version check

The only thing I’ve not used in O365 is skype for business but then I’ve got 
zoom and a phone for that.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of maurice mines
Sent: Friday, 10 April 2020 2:48 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

Hello Mr. Carlson, yes that is correct let me explain. When you have office 365 
you have the choice of either using the web version of an application or the 
version of the application that you actually install. Or at least that’s the 
way it was initially. These days I believe it is only the application install. 
The difference they were blind users is huge. If you use the web version of the 
application a screen reader can’t figure out where exact because it’s all based 
on a webpage. If it’s on the computer, then of course the screenreader is based 
on what’s presented to it locally. So to some of my answers yes I use a local 
version of the application but the subscription really is to office 365. I have 
the five device pack. That means that I can use Windows, Mac, a tablet if I 
wish, and even a smart phone if I wish. Because all of those devices are 
natively covered by my subscription. However I believe the tablet and the phone 
are restricted to the web version not the installed version. Now that I think 
about it, the phone does use and version meant for the phone. But I think the 
tablet version is  indeed a webpage. All versions have the account pain. It 
basically shows the fact that you are using one seat of the license. I hope 
this clarification, and explanation helps?

 And closing I’ve been using office three $0.65 late 2015.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.


On Apr 9, 2020, at 19:06, Dave Carlson 
mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

Morris,
You say your version is not the on line version? So you mean you are not using 
Office 365?


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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hello David.

I did actually have problems using the word application on the Mac yesterday as 
I was trying to update my CV. I was also trying to use the Braille display with 
it but I found that voice-over was not always tracking what the speech said I E 
I don’t know if there is a braill e cursor, a bit like jaws, as sometimes when 
I tried to get to the end of the line the focus was somewhere else. I found 
that very annoying. In the end, I had to use text edit. I also had to use 
Windows to make sure that the document was okay.

> On 9 Apr 2020, at 2:55 pm, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Kawal,
> I still have some issues with MS-Word on the Mac, and wonder if you can share 
> some of the adjustments you made to help?
> 
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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hello Maurice,

Have you tried working with tables in a Word document on the mac side?  It used 
to be impossible so I was wondering whether you had any experience of tables in 
Word on the mac.  Another word processing app on the Mac, Nisus Writer, was 
very promising but for the tables again.  It seems to be one of those features 
whose implementation with accessibility in mind has always been a problem.

Andrew
> On 9 Apr 2020, at 22:14, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> Hello, I use Microsoft Word for the Mac practically on a daily basis. The 
> ways that I’ve made it work for me, is by first going to that ribbon. I stop 
> interacting with it then I get to the point where it will show me the text 
> that’s currently in the document. I interact with that and I’m able to read 
> the document. At least that’s a whole lot better than Microsoft Word to the 
> max started out back in 2016. Back then it wasn’t usable for very much other 
> than you could create a document but you had to leave it in draft mode. 
> Today’s version at least is usable and all of its modes.
> 
> When I talk about my experience with Microsoft Word to the math I want to be 
> clear that it is the version that is actually on the local machine. Not the 
> web version of Microsoft Word which I believe still is virtually 
> inaccessible. And when I deal with documents that I  create an word on the 
> Mac and read them in the version of the same program and Windows live had 
> very few compatibility issues.
> 
> For extremely short Word documents, such as the signature file or something 
> of that nature. I can even use TextEdit or doubt in terms of reading it. I’m 
> going to include my signature file which actually is a Word document just as 
> an example. Please note however my signature file is not an endorsement or 
> discrediting my position which the file mentions. I did not write the actual 
> text of the file. But in order to make it work for me I converted the 
> document that was originally in HTML format into a Word document for use as 
> an email signature. In addition I use word for the Mac for most of not all of 
> my academic work that requires the use of Microsoft Word. And ideas it 
> depending on how long the document is for meeting assignments. Yes I think 
> there could be many improvements to the Mac product but it is at least 
> functional right now and can be used easily.
> 
> So here’s the file. Remember this is just for an example. Of a Word document. 
> Although I did not write this document, I am responsible for its layout since 
> I had to make a few adjustments. Thank you very much in advance for reading 
> this. Everyone stay safe and if possible stay where you are. Have other nice 
> day.
> 
> Please note, the above text of this email have spent dictated to the computer 
> using dictation software. If there are portions of my writing that are not 
> understandable and/or have grammatical syntax and/or other errors, those 
> errors may be the result of either the software, or the dictation process. If 
> there’s something that you truly don’t understand please contact me and I 
> will do my very best to clear up any misunderstandings.
> 
> 
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>> On Apr 9, 2020, at 13:24, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> How is the issue of accessibility of Tables in Word on mac?  That used to be 
>> a major stumbling block as it has been on all the other ones on the Mac 
>> platforms apart from Pages.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 7 Apr 2020, at 21:43, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just had a play with Microsoft word on the Mac and that is better also.  So 
>>> if anyone wants a go then do it.  I wonder why Apple don’t slag off 
>>> Microsoft anymore, I remember that they always did at their events.
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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

[Dave Carlson]

Morris,
Okay, thanks. I have an Office 365 subscription, but the actual apps are 
installed on my Mac. They would just be updated automatically from the internet.


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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I also have a stand alone version which I bought late last fall. I don't know 
if it's still available or not. But I paid a one-time fee, thus avoiding the 
whole subscription thing.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 9:48 PM, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mr. Carlson, yes that is correct let me explain. When you have office 
> 365 you have the choice of either using the web version of an application or 
> the version of the application that you actually install. Or at least that’s 
> the way it was initially. These days I believe it is only the application 
> install. The difference they were blind users is huge. If you use the web 
> version of the application a screen reader can’t figure out where exact 
> because it’s all based on a webpage. If it’s on the computer, then of course 
> the screenreader is based on what’s presented to it locally. So to some of my 
> answers yes I use a local version of the application but the subscription 
> really is to office 365. I have the five device pack. That means that I can 
> use Windows, Mac, a tablet if I wish, and even a smart phone if I wish. 
> Because all of those devices are natively covered by my subscription. However 
> I believe the tablet and the phone are restricted to the web version not the 
> installed version. Now that I think about it, the phone does use and version 
> meant for the phone. But I think the tablet version is  indeed a webpage. All 
> versions have the account pain. It basically shows the fact that you are 
> using one seat of the license. I hope this clarification, and explanation 
> helps?
> 
>  And closing I’ve been using office three $0.65 late 2015.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> 
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>> You say your version is not the on line version? So you mean you are not 
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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

[maurice mines]

Hello Mr. Carlson, yes that is correct let me explain. When you have office 365 
you have the choice of either using the web version of an application or the 
version of the application that you actually install. Or at least that’s the 
way it was initially. These days I believe it is only the application install. 
The difference they were blind users is huge. If you use the web version of the 
application a screen reader can’t figure out where exact because it’s all based 
on a webpage. If it’s on the computer, then of course the screenreader is based 
on what’s presented to it locally. So to some of my answers yes I use a local 
version of the application but the subscription really is to office 365. I have 
the five device pack. That means that I can use Windows, Mac, a tablet if I 
wish, and even a smart phone if I wish. Because all of those devices are 
natively covered by my subscription. However I believe the tablet and the phone 
are restricted to the web version not the installed version. Now that I think 
about it, the phone does use and version meant for the phone. But I think the 
tablet version is  indeed a webpage. All versions have the account pain. It 
basically shows the fact that you are using one seat of the license. I hope 
this clarification, and explanation helps?

 And closing I’ve been using office three $0.65 late 2015.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 19:06, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
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> You say your version is not the on line version? So you mean you are not 
> using Office 365?
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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

[Dave Carlson]

Morris,
You say your version is not the on line version? So you mean you are not using 
Office 365?


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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

[maurice mines]

Hello, I use Microsoft Word for the Mac practically on a daily basis. The ways 
that I’ve made it work for me, is by first going to that ribbon. I stop 
interacting with it then I get to the point where it will show me the text 
that’s currently in the document. I interact with that and I’m able to read the 
document. At least that’s a whole lot better than Microsoft Word to the max 
started out back in 2016. Back then it wasn’t usable for very much other than 
you could create a document but you had to leave it in draft mode. Today’s 
version at least is usable and all of its modes.

When I talk about my experience with Microsoft Word to the math I want to be 
clear that it is the version that is actually on the local machine. Not the web 
version of Microsoft Word which I believe still is virtually inaccessible. And 
when I deal with documents that I  create an word on the Mac and read them in 
the version of the same program and Windows live had very few compatibility 
issues.

For extremely short Word documents, such as the signature file or something of 
that nature. I can even use TextEdit or doubt in terms of reading it. I’m going 
to include my signature file which actually is a Word document just as an 
example. Please note however my signature file is not an endorsement or 
discrediting my position which the file mentions. I did not write the actual 
text of the file. But in order to make it work for me I converted the document 
that was originally in HTML format into a Word document for use as an email 
signature. In addition I use word for the Mac for most of not all of my 
academic work that requires the use of Microsoft Word. And ideas it depending 
on how long the document is for meeting assignments. Yes I think there could be 
many improvements to the Mac product but it is at least functional right now 
and can be used easily.

So here’s the file. Remember this is just for an example. Of a Word document. 
Although I did not write this document, I am responsible for its layout since I 
had to make a few adjustments. Thank you very much in advance for reading this. 
Everyone stay safe and if possible stay where you are. Have other nice day.

Please note, the above text of this email have spent dictated to the computer 
using dictation software. If there are portions of my writing that are not 
understandable and/or have grammatical syntax and/or other errors, those errors 
may be the result of either the software, or the dictation process. If there’s 
something that you truly don’t understand please contact me and I will do my 
very best to clear up any misunderstandings.


Maurice Mines, Board Member 
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> On Apr 9, 2020, at 13:24, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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> How is the issue of accessibility of Tables in Word on mac?  That used to be 
> a major stumbling block as it has been on all the other ones on the Mac 
> platforms apart from Pages.
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> Andrew
>> On 7 Apr 2020, at 21:43, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Just had a play with Microsoft word on the Mac and that is better also.  So 
>> if anyone wants a go then do it.  I wonder why Apple don’t slag off 
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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

How is the issue of accessibility of Tables in Word on mac?  That used to be a 
major stumbling block as it has been on all the other ones on the Mac platforms 
apart from Pages.

Andrew
> On 7 Apr 2020, at 21:43, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

[Dave Carlson]

Kawal,
I still have some issues with MS-Word on the Mac, and wonder if you can share 
some of the adjustments you made to help?


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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

[Julie Rattray]

Yes I find when using word on the Mac that it is less responsive and it does 
not always respond to commands to move by para etc so I typically still use 
pages but do use word for a couple of things - normally sharing files to one 
drive for collaborative working with peers. Interestingly I find the IPAD 
versions of ms office much better than the desktop versions.

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> I did have to play with the NAV keys And Ihad to turn them off because it 
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> not as great as what it might be on windows. But a vast improvement
> 
>> On 8 Apr 2020, at 10:48 am, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Do you have the problem where arrowing around a document in Word for Mac is 
>> sluggish? This is with quick navigation off.
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2020, at 3:43 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Just had a play with Microsoft word on the Mac and that is better also.  So 
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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

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I did have to play with the NAV keys And Ihad to turn them off because it 
wasn’t showing me what I had typed. And I agree it’s okay but it is slightly 
not as great as what it might be on windows. But a vast improvement

> On 8 Apr 2020, at 10:48 am, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
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> Do you have the problem where arrowing around a document in Word for Mac is 
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>> On Apr 7, 2020, at 3:43 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Just had a play with Microsoft word on the Mac and that is better also.  So 
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Re: Microsoft word on the Mac.

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Do you have the problem where arrowing around a document in Word for Mac is 
sluggish? This is with quick navigation off.

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Microsoft word on the Mac.

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Just had a play with Microsoft word on the Mac and that is better also.  So if 
anyone wants a go then do it.  I wonder why Apple don’t slag off Microsoft 
anymore, I remember that they always did at their events.

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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Mark,
   Good questions. If re-inventing the wheel is like thinking out loud, 
it's an oxymoron. (smiles)


   Let me boil it down. I want to stop using Windows. I currently have 
a license for Duxbury on Windows. If I had a Bluetooth embosser I would 
be done with Windows and upgrade to the Mac version in a heartbeat. The 
embosser I have is ancient and very heavy. It should work on the Mac but 
I need to confirm. Being deafblind, I like creating quick reference or 
cheat sheets as something I can fall back in.


   MS Word. Ok I had not considered Pages but it sure could work and I 
can test with the demo version of DBT. I can use that $99 elsewhere so 
appreciate the Pages option.


   My "project" includes working more with the iPhone and iPad thus the 
focus on iCloud Drive which finally look good.


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On 1/19/2020 12:10 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello E. T.,

Can you tell us exactly what your project actually involves?  This is to say, 
why are you using Duxbury?  What is your goal?

I ask because knowing this should assist us in making more accurate suggestions.

Are you using Duxbury for Windows? Or Mac?

Why are you using MS Word with Duxbury? Is it because of Duxbury MS Word 
template importer?

Are you creating new documents to use with Duxbury? Or are you receiving the 
Word files from a third-party?  These are important questions that need to be 
stated in order for a comprehensive reply, at least, in my opinion.

As others have stated, Pages can import and export documents from and to the MS 
Word file format.  As long as the file does not contain any extended fonts or, 
as long as the MS word file is saved with all of the fonts imbedded in the 
document, you should not encounter any problems using Pages, all things being 
equal, that is.

Another option you might consider would be to obtain an older stand-alone 
version of Word for Windows, if Windows is your preferred platform; say, Word 
2007 or Word 2010, or even Word 2013.

As I read this thread, I can't help but get the feeling that you are needlessly 
attempting to reinvent the proverbial wheel.  (smile).

Mark

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Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 9:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

 MS Word is used with Duxbury, but I am going to try using plain text
to import into DBT. My Office 365 subscription is up in 3 months so have
time. I just don't need anything but Word so will see how TezEdit does.
The only thing I need to look out for is hard returns after each line
instead of paragraphs. I didn't see any other options on the Office 365
site.

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On 1/18/2020 8:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

Hi ET,

What about just using Pages as it comes free now with all mac computers / ios 
devices.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2020 3:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

  Of course it's up to me, that is why I posted. (smiles) $99 a year either 
way is not an option so I will be working out a different approach to a 
Word-less environment.

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On 1/18/2020 6:16 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

$99.99 per year is for up to 5 computers, either Mac or Windows.
Another option is $69.99 per year for a single computer.
It is up to you to decide which option works best for your needs.

- Brad -


On Jan 18, 2020, at 17:53, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

 Currently I have the Office 355 subscription. I really only use
Word and would be fine with just the Mac version. But apparently one
still needs an Office 355 subscription. Are there other options? $99
every year is too much.

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RE: Microsoft Word for Mac

[M. Taylor]

Hello E. T.,

Can you tell us exactly what your project actually involves?  This is to say, 
why are you using Duxbury?  What is your goal?

I ask because knowing this should assist us in making more accurate suggestions.

Are you using Duxbury for Windows? Or Mac?  

Why are you using MS Word with Duxbury? Is it because of Duxbury MS Word 
template importer?

Are you creating new documents to use with Duxbury? Or are you receiving the 
Word files from a third-party?  These are important questions that need to be 
stated in order for a comprehensive reply, at least, in my opinion.

As others have stated, Pages can import and export documents from and to the MS 
Word file format.  As long as the file does not contain any extended fonts or, 
as long as the MS word file is saved with all of the fonts imbedded in the 
document, you should not encounter any problems using Pages, all things being 
equal, that is.  

Another option you might consider would be to obtain an older stand-alone 
version of Word for Windows, if Windows is your preferred platform; say, Word 
2007 or Word 2010, or even Word 2013.

As I read this thread, I can't help but get the feeling that you are needlessly 
attempting to reinvent the proverbial wheel.  (smile).

Mark

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From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 9:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

MS Word is used with Duxbury, but I am going to try using plain text 
to import into DBT. My Office 365 subscription is up in 3 months so have 
time. I just don't need anything but Word so will see how TezEdit does. 
The only thing I need to look out for is hard returns after each line 
instead of paragraphs. I didn't see any other options on the Office 365 
site.

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On 1/18/2020 8:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
> 
> What about just using Pages as it comes free now with all mac computers / ios 
> devices.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2020 3:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Word for Mac
> 
>  Of course it's up to me, that is why I posted. (smiles) $99 a year 
> either way is not an option so I will be working out a different approach to 
> a Word-less environment.
> 
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> On 1/18/2020 6:16 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>> $99.99 per year is for up to 5 computers, either Mac or Windows.
>> Another option is $69.99 per year for a single computer.
>> It is up to you to decide which option works best for your needs.
>>
>> - Brad -
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 17:53, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Currently I have the Office 355 subscription. I really only use
>> Word and would be fine with just the Mac version. But apparently one
>> still needs an Office 355 subscription. Are there other options? $99
>> every year is too much.
>>
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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

Somehow, I lost the start of this discussion. My general advice regarding 
Microsoft Word for Mac would be to make sure you’re using the latest version 
(e.g., Monthly Channel) from Office 365, with an up to date Mac OS/VoiceOver.

 

There is no doubt that Microsoft Office for Mac has been improving in its 
accessibility over time.

 

From: Macvisionaries  on behalf of Dave 
Carlson 
Reply-To: Macvisionaries 
Date: Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 21:50
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

 

E.T.

Sounds like Pages is your next option.


Dave Carlson

Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Microsoft Word for Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I know what you mean about the package deal,

It's a lot to pay when you get a lot of crap.



-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2020 6:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

MS Word is used with Duxbury, but I am going to try using plain text to 
import into DBT. My Office 365 subscription is up in 3 months so have time. I 
just don't need anything but Word so will see how TezEdit does. 
The only thing I need to look out for is hard returns after each line instead 
of paragraphs. I didn't see any other options on the Office 365 site.

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On 1/18/2020 8:14 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Hi ET,
> 
> What about just using Pages as it comes free now with all mac computers / ios 
> devices.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2020 3:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Word for Mac
> 
>  Of course it's up to me, that is why I posted. (smiles) $99 a year 
> either way is not an option so I will be working out a different approach to 
> a Word-less environment.
> 
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> true?
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> On 1/18/2020 6:16 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
>> $99.99 per year is for up to 5 computers, either Mac or Windows.
>> Another option is $69.99 per year for a single computer.
>> It is up to you to decide which option works best for your needs.
>>
>> - Brad -
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2020, at 17:53, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Currently I have the Office 355 subscription. I really only use 
>> Word and would be fine with just the Mac version. But apparently one 
>> still needs an Office 355 subscription. Are there other options? $99 
>> every year is too much.
>>
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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   MS Word is used with Duxbury, but I am going to try using plain text 
to import into DBT. My Office 365 subscription is up in 3 months so have 
time. I just don't need anything but Word so will see how TezEdit does. 
The only thing I need to look out for is hard returns after each line 
instead of paragraphs. I didn't see any other options on the Office 365 
site.


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Hi ET,

What about just using Pages as it comes free now with all mac computers / ios 
devices.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2020 3:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

 Of course it's up to me, that is why I posted. (smiles) $99 a year either 
way is not an option so I will be working out a different approach to a 
Word-less environment.

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On 1/18/2020 6:16 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:

$99.99 per year is for up to 5 computers, either Mac or Windows.
Another option is $69.99 per year for a single computer.
It is up to you to decide which option works best for your needs.

- Brad -


On Jan 18, 2020, at 17:53, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
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Word and would be fine with just the Mac version. But apparently one
still needs an Office 355 subscription. Are there other options? $99
every year is too much.

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RE: Microsoft Word for Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi ET,

What about just using Pages as it comes free now with all mac computers / ios 
devices.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2020 3:45 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

Of course it's up to me, that is why I posted. (smiles) $99 a year either 
way is not an option so I will be working out a different approach to a 
Word-less environment.

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On 1/18/2020 6:16 PM, Brad Snyder wrote:
> $99.99 per year is for up to 5 computers, either Mac or Windows.
> Another option is $69.99 per year for a single computer.
> It is up to you to decide which option works best for your needs.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Jan 18, 2020, at 17:53, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
>    Currently I have the Office 355 subscription. I really only use 
> Word and would be fine with just the Mac version. But apparently one 
> still needs an Office 355 subscription. Are there other options? $99 
> every year is too much.
> 
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RE: Microsoft Word for Mac

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi ET,

You mean office 365 subscription.

 As for cost,
It would depend on which subscription to the Office 365 system you have,

You can get one where office is based in the cloud that might be your cheapest 
But I'm not sure you save a lot and you can't easily get just word,

Have a look at the office 365 page
www.office365.com
 and see what they say about different packages available.

sf

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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

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   It is except Pages will not work with Duxbury but I will be looking 
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E.T.
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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

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E.T.
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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

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   Of course it's up to me, that is why I posted. (smiles) $99 a year 
either way is not an option so I will be working out a different 
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$99.99 per year is for up to 5 computers, either Mac or Windows.
Another option is $69.99 per year for a single computer.
It is up to you to decide which option works best for your needs.

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Re: Microsoft Word for Mac

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$99.99 per year is for up to 5 computers, either Mac or Windows.
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Microsoft Word for Mac

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   Currently I have the Office 355 subscription. I really only use Word 
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Microsoft word question

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
For those who use word on the Mac, when inserting a footnote, after inserting 
it, where does voice over drop you when you insert the footnote? Does it put 
you where you have to type in the footnote information or do you have to cursor 
around to find that? Hope this makes sense. Microsoft word on the mac question

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RE: Microsoft word 2016 accessibility

[Simon Fogarty]

It's useable but not fully 

I've done the basics but I wouldn't like to go hard core and write a thesus 
using it at this point.

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Hello folks,
What is the status of microsoft word 2016 accessibility on the mac, or office 
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Re: Microsoft word 2016 accessibility

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How do paragraph styles work in word on the mac with voiceover 
when writing research papers or advanced documents??Brian


Get Outlook for iOS






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Word works pretty well.  You may run into a little difficulty with complex 
editing tasks, but most things will work fine.  I found tables a little 
inconsistent. I use custom bullets in one of the documents I create, and 
there’s no way to identify with VO which one I’m selecting.  I’ve also 
discovered that things tend to work better with cursor tracking off.  I can’t 
really speak to how well it compares to Pages, since because of compatibility 
and familiarity I have stuck with Word.

Excel is another matter.  Maybe others who have been using the Mac longer would 
be able to work with it, but I found it nearly impossible.  Navigating the 
screen, though cumbersome, is doable.  Editing cells was another matter.  I 
would try to edit one and end up editing a completely different cell.  I gave 
up on it and imported the sheet to Numbers.

Power Point isn’t so great either.  I have rarely gotten VO to speak while 
trying to edit the contents of an item in a slide.  I have not tried it with 
Keynote.  Mostly what I have to do is small edits on someone else’s work, so I 
put up with it in order to insure that the file I save as a .ppsx will work on 
the Windows laptop where it will be used.

I can’t speak to Outlook, though others on this list say that it works well.

As for which is best, I guess that will depend on what you need to do.  
Everyone here will have an opinion.  

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> Hello folks,
> What is the status of microsoft word 2016 accessibility on the mac, or office 
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> way to go on the mac?  Thanks,
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Re: Microsoft word 2016 accessibility

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Word works pretty well.  You may run into a little difficulty with complex 
editing tasks, but most things will work fine.  I found tables a little 
inconsistent. I use custom bullets in one of the documents I create, and 
there’s no way to identify with VO which one I’m selecting.  I’ve also 
discovered that things tend to work better with cursor tracking off.  I can’t 
really speak to how well it compares to Pages, since because of compatibility 
and familiarity I have stuck with Word.

Excel is another matter.  Maybe others who have been using the Mac longer would 
be able to work with it, but I found it nearly impossible.  Navigating the 
screen, though cumbersome, is doable.  Editing cells was another matter.  I 
would try to edit one and end up editing a completely different cell.  I gave 
up on it and imported the sheet to Numbers.

Power Point isn’t so great either.  I have rarely gotten VO to speak while 
trying to edit the contents of an item in a slide.  I have not tried it with 
Keynote.  Mostly what I have to do is small edits on someone else’s work, so I 
put up with it in order to insure that the file I save as a .ppsx will work on 
the Windows laptop where it will be used.

I can’t speak to Outlook, though others on this list say that it works well.

As for which is best, I guess that will depend on what you need to do.  
Everyone here will have an opinion.  

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> What is the status of microsoft word 2016 accessibility on the mac, or office 
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> way to go on the mac?  Thanks,
> Brian
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Microsoft word 2016 accessibility

[Brian Howerton]

Hello folks,
What is the status of microsoft word 2016 accessibility on the mac, or office 
for that matter?  Is it usable or is the iWork suite of products still the way 
to go on the mac?  Thanks,
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Update on Microsoft Word

[Nicholas Parsons]

I’ve revisited Microsoft Word on Mac in the last week and it is much better. I 
had some difficulties with large tables that crossed multiple pages, but I have 
difficulty with those in Pages as well. I’m also editing a large document with 
track changes and ran into some VoiceOver tracking/feedback flakiness 
eventually. After closing Word and restarting the computer it seems back to 
normal though. I also turned off track changes to be safe. So it’s not perfect, 
but much better and more stable than when I tried it last.

I’m running Version 15.27 (161010). That’s what I get when I go to the About 
Word window through the Word menu. But I think it’s the latest version 
available through the Office 365 subscription which I believe they call Office 
16 or Office 2016 or something.

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Re: Microsoft word for the Mac

[Nicholas Parsons]

Yes, it has the ribbon.
Currently you need a 365 subscription if you want the somewhat accessible 
version, though a box version might be coming out later in the year which you 
can buy outright. Office for Mac 2011 is available for purchase outright, but 
is not accessible at all.
I’ve found Powerpoint to be accessible so far, but Word I would still avoid on 
the Mac if you can. It’s very flaky.

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Microsoft word for the Mac

[Mary Otten]

I have used an old version of Microsoft word for windows for many many years. I 
know this is going away, as soon as my old PC dis. I understand that the Mac 
version is rather accessible. But I know nothing about it. Does it use the 
ribbon? Do I have to have an office 365 subscription? Or do I buy it out right?
Mary

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Re: Microsoft Word on the mac does not want to read more than a few pages out of a long document

['Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all 

Just a note which is probably stating the obvious, but if you're having trouble 
with Microsoft Word or any part of the Microsoft sweet then please please  feed 
it back to them! I have!! The only way they'll listen to us and improve their 
accessibility for us is if as many people  as possible feed back and tell them 
what's wrong and how it needs to be  fixed. If we don't all feed back then 
it'll just get ignored/brushed under the carpet, which none of us want! Having 
said that, if you find positive stuff then please let them know  about that 
too, so they don't always think we're just a bunch of moaners. 

Thanks, and sorry for the rant, but really, if we want things fixed then the 
only way it'll be achieved is  by feedback from as many as possible. 

Eleanor 

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 The problem I get is that the further down the document I go the more flaky 
 VoiceOver becomes, and it stops indicating paragraph and line breaks properly.
 
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Re: Microsoft Word on the mac does not want to read more than a few pages out of a long document

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The problem I get is that the further down the document I go the more flaky 
VoiceOver becomes, and it stops indicating paragraph and line breaks properly.

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Microsoft Word on the mac does not want to read more than a few pages out of a long document

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Listers,

I have opened a document in the latest Microsoft Word on the mac.  I know this 
document has 29 pages since I had opened it before in Pages.  However, I don't 
seem to be able to transit further than 4 pages and I'm thrown back to the 
first page.  it's driving me crazy.  Any suggestions?  I feel like I'm gonna 
ditch Microsoft suite altogether and cancel the Office subscription.  Waste of 
money if I can't use it properly.

Thanks for any suggestions

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Re: Microsoft Word on the mac does not want to read more than a few pages out of a long document

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Hi,
What i’m going to say now will not help you in the least and for that i’m 
sorry. However, I can partly confirm the behaviour you see, only i can’t read 
anything but some changes in attributes such as font, style etc if i’m lucky, 
apart from that, nada, nothing, zero and zilch. I don’t know what’s going on 
here but if anyone could help that would be really great.
/Krister

 12 aug. 2015 kl. 09:11 skrev Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I have opened a document in the latest Microsoft Word on the mac.  I know 
 this document has 29 pages since I had opened it before in Pages.  However, I 
 don't seem to be able to transit further than 4 pages and I'm thrown back to 
 the first page.  it's driving me crazy.  Any suggestions?  I feel like I'm 
 gonna ditch Microsoft suite altogether and cancel the Office subscription.  
 Waste of money if I can't use it properly.
 
 Thanks for any suggestions
 
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Re: Microsoft Word on the mac does not want to read more than a few pages out of a long document

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Krister,

Thank you for confirming this.  I think it's fair to say that I've given 
Microsoft Office a good chance on the mac but I find it difficult to justify 
subscribing to Office365 any longer.  I shall have to pull the plug on this and 
just stick to Pages and office on the Windows side I run in virtual machine - 
not very convenient.

Thanks again

Andrew
 On 12 Aug 2015, at 10:02, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What i’m going to say now will not help you in the least and for that i’m 
 sorry. However, I can partly confirm the behaviour you see, only i can’t read 
 anything but some changes in attributes such as font, style etc if i’m lucky, 
 apart from that, nada, nothing, zero and zilch. I don’t know what’s going on 
 here but if anyone could help that would be really great.
 /Krister
 
 12 aug. 2015 kl. 09:11 skrev Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I have opened a document in the latest Microsoft Word on the mac.  I know 
 this document has 29 pages since I had opened it before in Pages.  However, 
 I don't seem to be able to transit further than 4 pages and I'm thrown back 
 to the first page.  it's driving me crazy.  Any suggestions?  I feel like 
 I'm gonna ditch Microsoft suite altogether and cancel the Office 
 subscription.  Waste of money if I can't use it properly.
 
 Thanks for any suggestions
 
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Roland Zitzke]

Hello Anne,

Am Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2015 13:38:38 UTC+2 schrieb Anne Robertson:



 I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
 MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
 with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
 arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
 pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
 following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again! 
 I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m 
 looking at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a 
 time, and VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. 
 When I go to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of 
 pages.. 

 I can fully confirm this behavior. It appears as if multipage documents 
simply do not work (yet).
This is a little surprising since the overall accessibility of Word looks 
quite good at a first glance.

/Roland

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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Krister,

I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my MacBook 
Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact with the 
document layout area and then with the text and the up and down arrow keys work 
fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text pointer are not in the 
same place despite the fact that I have them following each other. The mouse is 
somewhere else again!
I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking at 
has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and VO 
says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go to the 
Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..

Cheers,

Anne


 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when i 
 try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
 obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
 /Krister
 
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now if 
i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of a word 
and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever is spoken 
except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
/Krister

 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my MacBook 
 Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact with the 
 document layout area and then with the text and the up and down arrow keys 
 work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text pointer are not 
 in the same place despite the fact that I have them following each other. The 
 mouse is somewhere else again!
 I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
 at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and 
 VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go to 
 the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when 
 i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
 obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
 /Krister
 
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi There,

I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much. I was a beta tester for Office 
for the Mac. I don't have Office 365 that is offering the new version. My 
question is: Does the beta still work or will I need to wait when the Office 
product is released in the fall to use it again on the Mac? I did open Word, 
interacted with the document, but no text was inputted there. That's why I'm 
replying to this thread.

Thanks.

Warmest regards,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now 
 if i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of a 
 word and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever is 
 spoken except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
 /Krister
 
 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
 MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
 with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
 arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
 pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
 following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again!
 I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
 at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, and 
 VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I go 
 to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but when 
 i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
 obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
 /Krister
 
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Re: Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Eileen,

The beta still works but you have to download the updater and update the 
applications regularly. It seems that every time I open Word, the updater kicks 
in and downloads a new version.

The whole process was explained here a while ago but I don’t seem to have kept 
the message. Perhaps someone else has kept it.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 16 Jul 2015, at 19:24, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi There,
 
 I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much. I was a beta tester for Office 
 for the Mac. I don't have Office 365 that is offering the new version. My 
 question is: Does the beta still work or will I need to wait when the Office 
 product is released in the fall to use it again on the Mac? I did open Word, 
 interacted with the document, but no text was inputted there. That's why I'm 
 replying to this thread.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Warmest regards,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, this is the strange thing, it worked fine until a couple betas ago. Now 
 if i interact only with the layout area VO can sometimes read one letter of 
 a word and then is silent. If i interact with the text, nothing whatsoever 
 is spoken except for the occational font- and size change, nothing more.
 /Krister
 
 16 juli 2015 kl. 13:38 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Hello Krister,
 
 I’m not having your problems with the latest version of MS Word on my 
 MacBook Air. Are you interacting far enough with the document? I interact 
 with the document layout area and then with the text and the up and down 
 arrow keys work fine. I do notice that the VoiceOver cursor and the text 
 pointer are not in the same place despite the fact that I have them 
 following each other. The mouse is somewhere else again!
 I have trouble making sense of the way Word works. The document I’m looking 
 at has 176 pages, but I only seem to see four or five of them at a time, 
 and VO says things like “page 1 of 5” which just doesn’t make sense. When I 
 go to the Status Bar group and interact, I see the correct number of pages..
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 12:15, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi there.
 I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i 
 try to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using 
 only up- and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the 
 cursor is elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route 
 the mouse to the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, 
 vo+shift+spacebar, the cursor goes to the document area where i am but 
 when i try reading using up- or down arrow only one character of a line is 
 read.
 I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but 
 what obvious thing im i missing?
 Anyone else come across this?
 /Krister
 
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Strange issue with Microsoft Word on my mac

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi there.
I’ve encountered a very strange thing with Ms Word 2016 on my iMac. When i try 
to read a document with more than one page, at least so it seems using only up- 
and down arrow keys, nothing is read and it looks as though the cursor is 
elsewhere in the application and not on the document. If i route the mouse to 
the cursor with vo+command+f5 and then do a mouse click, vo+shift+spacebar, the 
cursor goes to the document area where i am but when i try reading using up- or 
down arrow only one character of a line is read.
I don’t use quicknav, infact i very rarely do so it can’t be that, but what 
obvious thing im i missing?
Anyone else come across this?
/Krister

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Re: The spell checker in microsoft word preview.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Annie,

I’ve reported this bug. I’m glad we have VO commands for spellchecking.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 28 Apr 2015, at 13:50, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Anne.
 
 Thank you for confirming. Will you report this bug Anne? In the meantime I 
 have figured out that there is a work arround, use command option control e 
 and command option control shift e, when you will navigate between misspelled 
 words with the voiceOver function, you can as usual use vo+shift+m and find 
 the suggestions.
 
 Cheers Annie.
 Den 28/04/2015 kl. 13.13 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Yes, I’ve noticed that, too. The word in question is reported as an image.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 28 Apr 2015, at 11:34, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Has anyone noticed that we are not able to use the spell checker in MS 
 word. I would be glad if one of you who are sending feedback to microsoft 
 will report this issue if you can confirm it.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
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Re: The spell checker in microsoft word preview.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Anne.

Thank you for confirming. Will you report this bug Anne? In the meantime I have 
figured out that there is a work arround, use command option control e and 
command option control shift e, when you will navigate between misspelled words 
with the voiceOver function, you can as usual use vo+shift+m and find the 
suggestions.

Cheers Annie.
 Den 28/04/2015 kl. 13.13 skrev Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk:
 
 Yes, I’ve noticed that, too. The word in question is reported as an image.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 28 Apr 2015, at 11:34, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Has anyone noticed that we are not able to use the spell checker in MS word. 
 I would be glad if one of you who are sending feedback to microsoft will 
 report this issue if you can confirm it.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
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Re: The spell checker in microsoft word preview.

[Anne Robertson]

Yes, I’ve noticed that, too. The word in question is reported as an image.

Cheers,

Anne


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 wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 Has anyone noticed that we are not able to use the spell checker in MS word. 
 I would be glad if one of you who are sending feedback to microsoft will 
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The spell checker in microsoft word preview.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi all.

Has anyone noticed that we are not able to use the spell checker in MS word. I 
would be glad if one of you who are sending feedback to microsoft will report 
this issue if you can confirm it.

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Voiceover and tables in Microsoft Word on the mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

I've just tried inserting and navigating a table into a microsoft word document 
on my mac.  The inserting of the table was easy and accessible.  Navigating the 
table also seems to work without having to interact with it.  I tried using 
both tab key and voiceover keys with arrow keys, both seem to let me navigate 
the table and Voiceover gives the cell coordinates very well.  The only thing 
that seems the problem at present is that when I have actually written some 
text into a cell and then tried to modify it by deleting some characters, 
VoiceOver doesn't give feedback on what letters are deleted.  Could someone 
confirm this?  This is really promising and provided Microsoft can fix some 
problems like the one above, we might actually get another word processing app 
on the mac that handles tables well.  Also page transitions in a document 
longer than one page seems fine.  I have set my preferences for Word to wrap 
text to window in preferences.

I've also just noticed the same behaviour when typing text into text areas on 
the feedback page in Microsoft Word.  VoiceOver doesn't give me any feedback.  
I have to move away from the text area and back to read the entire text.

How do I report any problems with Word and voiceOver to Microsoft?

Andrew

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Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[Grant Hardy]

Hi Barry, I’d say auto-update is a critical part of the Office Preview, since 
builds quickly expire once updates are released. If auto update isn’t being 
installed for some of you, I’d consider that to be a bug and it may be worth 
trying a reinstall. There are multiple instances when the installer asks for 
your administrator password. I’m wondering if maybe one of these is being 
accidentally closed by some users, or isn’t gaining focus for whatever reason.

Meanwhile, you should be able to download the updates directly from Microsoft 
at the following link: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3048768

Best,

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

Are you using a Mac or Windows?
I don’t have it in my help menu either.
From what I can tell, the Microsoft autoupdate will not install on OS X unless 
you have your security setting configured a sertain way.

On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Andrew,

When you open Microsoft Word, press CONTROL+OPTION+M to get into the menus. 
Keep the CONTROL and OPTION keys held down and arrow right to the help menu, 
then arrow down and the “check for updates” option should be the last item in 
the menu. With CONTROL and OPTION still held down, press the SPACEBAR to 
activate this menu item.

If you still aren’t seeing it, can you describe the contents of the help menu 
on your computer? It definitely should be there.

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I look 
in about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How can I 
update it?

Many thanks,

Andrew
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your 
 screen not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the 
 word itself you find the send feedback for the app
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
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 Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac
 
 i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to 
 the menubar and voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I 
 can type the search term, but I can't seem to read any results.  There's a 
 table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just image  and 
 I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check for 
 update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?
 
 Many thanks
 
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Voiceover and tables in Microsoft Word

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

I've just tried inserting and navigating a table into a microsoft word document 
on my mac.  The inserting of the table was easy and accessible.  Navigating the 
table also seems to work without having to interact with it.  I tried using 
both tab key and voiceover keys with arrow keys, both seem to let me navigate 
the table and Voiceover gives the cell coordinates very well.  The only thing 
that seems the problem at present is that when I have actually written some 
text into a cell and then tried to modify it by deleting some characters, 
VoiceOver doesn't give feedback on what letters are deleted.  Could someone 
confirm this?  This is really promising and provided Microsoft can fix some 
problems like the one above, we might actually get another word processing app 
on the mac that handles tables well.  Also page transitions in a document 
longer than one page seems fine.  I have set my preferences for Word to wrap 
text to window in preferences.

How do I report any problems with Word and voiceOver to Microsoft?

Andrew

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Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[Sadam Ahmed]

According to the below article sometime in the second half of 
this year.


Link to source text:

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac-software/microsoft-office-mac-2015-release-date-rumours-price-preview-install-3456798/. 



Kind regards,

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed

B.A. Business Information Systems

RMIT University

On 4/19/2015 5:53 AM, Phil Halton wrote:

Does anyone know when this software is supposed to go live?

Sent from my IPhone



On Apr 18, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Barry, I’d say auto-update is a critical part of the Office Preview, since 
builds quickly expire once updates are released. If auto update isn’t being 
installed for some of you, I’d consider that to be a bug and it may be worth 
trying a reinstall. There are multiple instances when the installer asks for 
your administrator password. I’m wondering if maybe one of these is being 
accidentally closed by some users, or isn’t gaining focus for whatever reason.

Meanwhile, you should be able to download the updates directly from Microsoft 
at the following link: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3048768

Best,

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

Are you using a Mac or Windows?
I don’t have it in my help menu either.
 From what I can tell, the Microsoft autoupdate will not install on OS X unless 
you have your security setting configured a sertain way.

On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Andrew,

When you open Microsoft Word, press CONTROL+OPTION+M to get into the menus. 
Keep the CONTROL and OPTION keys held down and arrow right to the help menu, 
then arrow down and the “check for updates” option should be the last item in 
the menu. With CONTROL and OPTION still held down, press the SPACEBAR to 
activate this menu item.

If you still aren’t seeing it, can you describe the contents of the help menu 
on your computer? It definitely should be there.

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I look in 
about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How can I update it?

Many thanks,

Andrew

On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your screen 
not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the word itself 
you find the send feedback for the app

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated

On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

Hi Listers,

I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to the menubar and 
voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I can type the search term, but I can't 
seem to read any results.  There's a table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just 
image  and I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check 
for update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?

Many thanks

Andrew

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Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[Barry Hadder]

The MS autoupdate will not install unless you have apps allowed from anywhere 
checked in your security settings and that is not advisable.  Microsoft 
odviously does not code sign their autoupdate installer.
I don’t consider this a bug.  Apple has there own ecosystem for such things and 
I’m sure that once the MS office apps are released, they will be in the app 
store.  Meanwhile, they are still in very early beta stage.  I don’t think that 
having to check manually for updates periodically is a critical issue.


On Apr 18, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Barry, I’d say auto-update is a critical part of the Office Preview, since 
builds quickly expire once updates are released. If auto update isn’t being 
installed for some of you, I’d consider that to be a bug and it may be worth 
trying a reinstall. There are multiple instances when the installer asks for 
your administrator password. I’m wondering if maybe one of these is being 
accidentally closed by some users, or isn’t gaining focus for whatever reason.

Meanwhile, you should be able to download the updates directly from Microsoft 
at the following link: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3048768

Best,

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

Are you using a Mac or Windows?
I don’t have it in my help menu either.
From what I can tell, the Microsoft autoupdate will not install on OS X unless 
you have your security setting configured a certain way.

On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Andrew,

When you open Microsoft Word, press CONTROL+OPTION+M to get into the menus. 
Keep the CONTROL and OPTION keys held down and arrow right to the help menu, 
then arrow down and the “check for updates” option should be the last item in 
the menu. With CONTROL and OPTION still held down, press the SPACEBAR to 
activate this menu item.

If you still aren’t seeing it, can you describe the contents of the help menu 
on your computer? It definitely should be there.

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I look 
in about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How can I 
update it?

Many thanks,

Andrew
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your 
 screen not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the 
 word itself you find the send feedback for the app
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac
 
 i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to 
 the menubar and voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I 
 can type the search term, but I can't seem to read any results.  There's a 
 table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just image  and 
 I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check for 
 update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[Barry Hadder]

Well, that’s interesting as I even tried installing it separately.  But, I 
really don’t care enough to explore the issue farther on my end.
I’m only testing this out of curiosity and nothing more.

On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:59 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Barry, the auto update tool installed just fine on my system, and I’m set to 
allow apps only from the App Store or from identified developers. While I agree 
it’s not critical to be missing the auto update, I would consider it a bug 
because unless a user follows Blogs and support articles and downloads the 
update packages manually, they will not only be missing critical security 
updates, but since this is a Preview they will find that their builds expire 
after some time. While some enthusiasts like us would not be inconvenienced too 
much by this, I think Microsoft’s intent was to provide notifications of 
updates automatically so end users don’t have to worry about keeping up with 
Blogs, forums and support articles to find them. Since the auto update tool is 
working fine on my end, I’m not having any issues to report to MS. But if you 
or others don’t have it working, I’d urge you to send in some feedback. Just my 
two cents.

Grant

On Apr 18, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

The MS autoupdate will not install unless you have apps allowed from anywhere 
checked in your security settings and that is not advisable.  Microsoft 
obviously does not code sign their autoupdate installer.
I don’t consider this a bug.  Apple has there own ecosystem for such things and 
I’m sure that once the MS office apps are released, they will be in the app 
store.  Meanwhile, they are still in very early beta stage.  I don’t think that 
having to check manually for updates periodically is a critical issue.


On Apr 18, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Barry, I’d say auto-update is a critical part of the Office Preview, since 
builds quickly expire once updates are released. If auto update isn’t being 
installed for some of you, I’d consider that to be a bug and it may be worth 
trying a reinstall. There are multiple instances when the installer asks for 
your administrator password. I’m wondering if maybe one of these is being 
accidentally closed by some users, or isn’t gaining focus for whatever reason.

Meanwhile, you should be able to download the updates directly from Microsoft 
at the following link: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3048768

Best,

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

Are you using a Mac or Windows?
I don’t have it in my help menu either.
From what I can tell, the Microsoft autoupdate will not install on OS X unless 
you have your security setting configured a certain way.

On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Andrew,

When you open Microsoft Word, press CONTROL+OPTION+M to get into the menus. 
Keep the CONTROL and OPTION keys held down and arrow right to the help menu, 
then arrow down and the “check for updates” option should be the last item in 
the menu. With CONTROL and OPTION still held down, press the SPACEBAR to 
activate this menu item.

If you still aren’t seeing it, can you describe the contents of the help menu 
on your computer? It definitely should be there.

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I look 
in about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How can I 
update it?

Many thanks,

Andrew
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your 
 screen not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the 
 word itself you find the send feedback for the app
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac
 
 i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to 
 the menubar and voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I 
 can type the search term, but I can't seem to read any results.  There's a 
 table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just image  and 
 I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check for 
 update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?
 
 Many thanks
 
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[Phil Halton]

Does anyone know when this software is supposed to go live?

Sent from my IPhone


 On Apr 18, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Barry, I’d say auto-update is a critical part of the Office Preview, since 
 builds quickly expire once updates are released. If auto update isn’t being 
 installed for some of you, I’d consider that to be a bug and it may be worth 
 trying a reinstall. There are multiple instances when the installer asks for 
 your administrator password. I’m wondering if maybe one of these is being 
 accidentally closed by some users, or isn’t gaining focus for whatever reason.
 
 Meanwhile, you should be able to download the updates directly from Microsoft 
 at the following link: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3048768
 
 Best,
 
 Grant
 
 On Apr 17, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you using a Mac or Windows?
 I don’t have it in my help menu either.
 From what I can tell, the Microsoft autoupdate will not install on OS X 
 unless you have your security setting configured a sertain way.
 
 On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Andrew,
 
 When you open Microsoft Word, press CONTROL+OPTION+M to get into the menus. 
 Keep the CONTROL and OPTION keys held down and arrow right to the help menu, 
 then arrow down and the “check for updates” option should be the last item in 
 the menu. With CONTROL and OPTION still held down, press the SPACEBAR to 
 activate this menu item.
 
 If you still aren’t seeing it, can you describe the contents of the help menu 
 on your computer? It definitely should be there.
 
 Grant
 
 On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I 
 look in about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How 
 can I update it?
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Andrew
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your 
 screen not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the 
 word itself you find the send feedback for the app
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas 
 Herrera
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac
 
 i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to 
 the menubar and voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I 
 can type the search term, but I can't seem to read any results.  There's a 
 table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just image  and 
 I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check for 
 update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[Grant Hardy]

Hi Barry, the auto update tool installed just fine on my system, and I’m set to 
allow apps only from the App Store or from identified developers. While I agree 
it’s not critical to be missing the auto update, I would consider it a bug 
because unless a user follows Blogs and support articles and downloads the 
update packages manually, they will not only be missing critical security 
updates, but since this is a Preview they will find that their builds expire 
after some time. While some enthusiasts like us would not be inconvenienced too 
much by this, I think Microsoft’s intent was to provide notifications of 
updates automatically so end users don’t have to worry about keeping up with 
Blogs, forums and support articles to find them. Since the auto update tool is 
working fine on my end, I’m not having any issues to report to MS. But if you 
or others don’t have it working, I’d urge you to send in some feedback. Just my 
two cents.

Grant

On Apr 18, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

The MS autoupdate will not install unless you have apps allowed from anywhere 
checked in your security settings and that is not advisable.  Microsoft 
odviously does not code sign their autoupdate installer.
I don’t consider this a bug.  Apple has there own ecosystem for such things and 
I’m sure that once the MS office apps are released, they will be in the app 
store.  Meanwhile, they are still in very early beta stage.  I don’t think that 
having to check manually for updates periodically is a critical issue.


On Apr 18, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Barry, I’d say auto-update is a critical part of the Office Preview, since 
builds quickly expire once updates are released. If auto update isn’t being 
installed for some of you, I’d consider that to be a bug and it may be worth 
trying a reinstall. There are multiple instances when the installer asks for 
your administrator password. I’m wondering if maybe one of these is being 
accidentally closed by some users, or isn’t gaining focus for whatever reason.

Meanwhile, you should be able to download the updates directly from Microsoft 
at the following link: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3048768

Best,

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:

Are you using a Mac or Windows?
I don’t have it in my help menu either.
From what I can tell, the Microsoft autoupdate will not install on OS X unless 
you have your security setting configured a certain way.

On Apr 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:

Hi Andrew,

When you open Microsoft Word, press CONTROL+OPTION+M to get into the menus. 
Keep the CONTROL and OPTION keys held down and arrow right to the help menu, 
then arrow down and the “check for updates” option should be the last item in 
the menu. With CONTROL and OPTION still held down, press the SPACEBAR to 
activate this menu item.

If you still aren’t seeing it, can you describe the contents of the help menu 
on your computer? It definitely should be there.

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I look 
in about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How can I 
update it?

Many thanks,

Andrew
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your 
 screen not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the 
 word itself you find the send feedback for the app
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac
 
 i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to 
 the menubar and voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I 
 can type the search term, but I can't seem to read any results.  There's a 
 table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just image  and 
 I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check for 
 update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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RE: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[george b]

The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your screen 
not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the word itself 
you find the send feedback for the app

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to 
 the menubar and voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I 
 can type the search term, but I can't seem to read any results.  There's a 
 table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just image  and I 
 can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check for 
 update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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RE: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[george b]

Go to the apple menu and all the way to the right to the help menu and down to 
something update I am not exact about the wording.  But, the update if any is 
in that help menu

Also you might not fine it because 15.9 is the latest version

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 10:59
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I look 
in about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How can I 
update it?

Many thanks,

Andrew
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your 
 screen not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the 
 word itself you find the send feedback for the app
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac
 
 i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to 
 the menubar and voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I 
 can type the search term, but I can't seem to read any results.  There's a 
 table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just image  and 
 I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check for 
 update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[Grant Hardy]

Hi Andrew,

When you open Microsoft Word, press CONTROL+OPTION+M to get into the menus. 
Keep the CONTROL and OPTION keys held down and arrow right to the help menu, 
then arrow down and the “check for updates” option should be the last item in 
the menu. With CONTROL and OPTION still held down, press the SPACEBAR to 
activate this menu item.

If you still aren’t seeing it, can you describe the contents of the help menu 
on your computer? It definitely should be there.

Grant

On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I look 
in about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How can I 
update it?

Many thanks,

Andrew
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your 
 screen not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the 
 word itself you find the send feedback for the app
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac
 
 i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to 
 the menubar and voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I 
 can type the search term, but I can't seem to read any results.  There's a 
 table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just image  and 
 I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check for 
 update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I look 
in about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How can I 
update it?

Many thanks,

Andrew
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your 
 screen not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the 
 word itself you find the send feedback for the app
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac
 
 i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated 
 On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Listers,
 
 I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to 
 the menubar and voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I 
 can type the search term, but I can't seem to read any results.  There's a 
 table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just image  and 
 I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check for 
 update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hello George and Andrew,

The 15.9 version is   the latest update.

Kind regards,

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed

B.A. Business Information Systems

RMIT University

On 4/18/2015 4:02 AM, george b wrote:

Go to the apple menu and all the way to the right to the help menu and down to 
something update I am not exact about the wording.  But, the update if any is 
in that help menu

Also you might not fine it because 15.9 is the latest version

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 10:59
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

I'm afraid that the update link is not in the Apple menu either.  When I look in 
about Word section, I read that my version is 15.9 not 16.9.  How can I update it?

Many thanks,

Andrew

On 17 Apr 2015, at 13:51, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:

The app update is in the help menu of the apple menus at the top of your screen 
not the help menu in the word app itself.  In the help menu of the word itself 
you find the send feedback for the app

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Dionipher Presas Herrera
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 22:42
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cant' access help menu in Microsoft Word for mac

i don't see it either, maybe it was already updated

On 17 Apr 2015, at 7:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:

Hi Listers,

I've successfully installed Microsoft Word on my macbook pro.  When I go to the menubar and 
voiceover to the help menu, I can find the search field, I can type the search term, but I can't 
seem to read any results.  There's a table there but it appears to be empty or voiceover reads just 
image  and I can't activate anything there.  By the way, I don't see the check 
for update item in the help menu either.  Is this regular?

Many thanks

Andrew

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