Re: [User Experience] - What is the status of the user experience project?

[Kevin Grignon]

Jurgen,

Thanks for the insight. In reviewing the wiki, the backlog content is still
relevant, but the activity to do and membership are really out of date.

Is it reasonable to archive the current content, harvest actionable and
relevant backlog items, and start fresh?

Perhaps I could make a community proposal to support a UX community wiki
refresh.

Thoughts?

Regards,
Kevin


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jürgen Schmidt
wrote:

> On 5/4/12 6:15 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Does anyone have an update on the status of the AOO user experience
>> project? See http://www.openoffice.org/ux/ for current information.
>>
>
> I think it is stalled and is waiting on reactivation ;-) (that you already
> have started)
>
>
>
>> Are Frank Leohmann and Christoph Noack still involved?
>>
>
> I assume Frank has a new job and isn't active anymore and Christoph went
> to LibreOffice.
>
>
>
>> How might we validate the names of UX community as found on:
>> http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/User_**Experience/Community
>> ?
>>
>>
> I would not spent too much time on this and would focus only on the future.
>
> The problem with such pages is that they are always outdated.
>
> Juergen
>

Re: [DL] question concerning NL downloads...or not

[Jürgen Lange]

Hello Kay,

+1

This is a good idea.

Jürgen

Am 04.05.2012 00:59, schrieb Kay Schenk:

Just a quick philosophical questions for the upcoming 3.4 download.

Right now, as I relayed in a previous message, I commented out ALL the
language entries for which we have do not have packs available on our
Apache mirror setup. What this means is that folks with a language string
identifier which we are no longer supporting will probably end up on the
"other.html" page, which is in English.

Another option would be to setup the language array by placing them back in
the process, and,  instead of commenting them out, indicate through one of
the flags already available that the release for the language is NOT
available on the mirror system, as many of them were already. Folks will
then be sent back to their current native language site. There, of course,
they will not find an update, but they won't be any worse off than they are
now in some respects.

Any thoughts on this? Is the latter alternative more desirable -- or not.

Re: Introduction from LiJian

[Peter Junge]

Hi Li Jian,

nice to also see you here.

Best regards,
Peter

On 5/4/2012 2:35 PM, lijian wrote:

Hi all,

I'm LiJian from cs2c team of China. I am very glad to be back to Apache 
OpenOffice.org.
I used to work on OpenOffice.org for several years, and focused on Writer Layout
and Formatting as a developer role. So happy to see some old friends here and 
work together with you guys again.
I'm interested in OpenSouce, especially in AOO, and looking forward to joining 
you.

Best regards,
2012-05-04



lijian

Re: [User Experience] - What is the status of the user experience project?

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 5/4/12 6:15 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote:

Hello All,

Does anyone have an update on the status of the AOO user experience
project? See http://www.openoffice.org/ux/ for current information.


I think it is stalled and is waiting on reactivation ;-) (that you 
already have started)




Are Frank Leohmann and Christoph Noack still involved?


I assume Frank has a new job and isn't active anymore and Christoph went 
to LibreOffice.




How might we validate the names of UX community as found on:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Community?



I would not spent too much time on this and would focus only on the future.

The problem with such pages is that they are always outdated.

Juergen

Introduction from LiJian

[lijian]

Hi all,

I'm LiJian from cs2c team of China. I am very glad to be back to Apache 
OpenOffice.org. 
I used to work on OpenOffice.org for several years, and focused on Writer 
Layout 
and Formatting as a developer role. So happy to see some old friends here and 
work together with you guys again.
I'm interested in OpenSouce, especially in AOO, and looking forward to joining 
you.

Best regards,
2012-05-04 



lijian 

Re: [User Experience] - What is the status of the user experience project?

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 04/05/2012 Kevin Grignon wrote:

How might we validate the names of UX community as found on:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Community?


Raffaello has been active on the Italian mailing lists recently. Just 
e-mail me in private if you need to contact him.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Need to rename ure-runtime

[Jürgen Schmidt]

On 5/4/12 3:43 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

Hi,

I am runnign Fedora 17. On it I installed Apache OO 3.4 RC1.
I do not have LibreOffice installed on my system.

However, launching the system updater notifies me that there is an
update available for URE-Runtime (a component of LibreOffice) and
proceeds to install such update.

Needless to say, this installs over Apache OO 3.4 ure-runtime.
If an update from the Fedora repos breaks Apache OpenOffice 3.4 who's to
blame?.

I asked this on the Fedora mailing list and Caolán McNamara
caol...@redhat.com replied:

--
Both Fedora openoffice.org and the original upstream openoffice.org
ended up with a package called openoffice.org-ure. From various twists
and turns the Fedora -ure ended up with a 1 Epoch so all fedora -ure
packages are a higher n-v-r that the OOo one. Apache OOo has now
presumably got the same package names as well.

Fedora libreoffice has an upgrade path to update the Fedora
openoffice.org so it would attempt to upgrade anything called
openoffice.org-ure if installed.

Can block the libreoffice-ure in your yum.conf
--

I think this needs to be adressed by either LibreOffice or Apache OO so
that neither package steps over the ure-runtime of the other.

Thoughts? Comments?


well I think once we have an official release out we can clarify this 
with the different vendors. The package name contains openoffice.org and 
this is owned by Apache -> Apache OpenOffice.


They are free to change their distro packaging to use the package of our 
upcoming or future releases. Or they can rename the package.


Juergen

Re: hi

[Peter Junge]

Hi Xu Shanchuan,

I'm pleased to also meet you here.

Peter

On 5/4/2012 11:35 AM, 许山川 wrote:
> hi,all
> I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now,
> Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including
> the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress
> I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong 
> willing to participate AOOo community.
> Best Regards,
> 2012-05-04
> 
> China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu
> hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110

Re: I am glad to retun to AOO

[Peter Junge]

Hi Robert,

very nice to also meet you again here. Glad to see that many old friends
are coming together again. :-)

Kindest regards,
Peter

On 5/4/2012 1:43 PM, 史周波 wrote:
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I am glad to return to Apache Openoffice.org
> 
> I am robertzhou, form china . I am working for cs2c . I am old friend of
> OpenOffice.org.
> many years ago, I was working for freamework and developer. I'd like to
> work for Apache OpenOffice.org.
> I'm insterting in Aoo performace 、framework 、 chinese localization、UOF .
> 
> I' m going to work for UOF. who can tell me how to start ?
> 
> Best Regards.
> 
> robertzhou
> 

Re: "Google Docs Boasts 450 New Fonts and 60 New Templates"

[Roberto Galoppini]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57426699-93/google-docs-boasts-450-new-fonts-and-60-new-templates/
>
> Is there any easy way to tell how many templates we have in our
> template repository?  It might make sense to mention the templates and
> extensions repositories in our AOO 3.4 announcement, since that is a
> statement on the scope of the larger ecosystem.  Someone who
> contributes a template or writes an extension is a contributor to the
> overall OpenOffice effort.

Numbers, here we go:

- 864 Extensions, total 2856 releases
- 2340 Templates in 18 languages:

25  da
313 de
57  el
1115en
87  es
142 fr
2   he
14  hu
100 it
133 ja
46  nl
82  pl
54  pt-br
129 ru
9   sl
19  sv
3   zh-hans
10  zh-hant

Let me add that next week we plan to go out with a blog entry about
Extensions and Templates, containing some stats and an interview to
one of the authors. If you wish we can coordinate the timing. My idea
was to publish this a couple of days after the AOO 3.4 PR. For that
day we are working on a short video showing some of the top features
of the new release.

Maybe I better move this discussion on ooo-marketing?

Roberto


>
> -Rob

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Re: Introduce

[Yong Lin Ma]

Tao,
Welcome. It was very impressive to meet your team and hear what you
are working on last month.

You may talk more here. I am sure not everyone here know about it. And
would be glad to hear that.


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Yue Helen  wrote:
> Wonderful...with more developers in, we can do more in the next release.
>
> 2012/5/4 taotao.liu 
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here.
>>
>> I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian
>> district.
>>
>> Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth.
>>
>> regards,
>> LiuTao
>>
>> 2012-05-04
>>
>>
>>
>> China Standard Software Co., Ltd.     LiuTao
>> China              Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106
>>
>> http://www.cs2c.com.cn
>> http://modularization.openoffice.org
>> mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn
>>

I am glad to retun to AOO

[史周波]

Hi everyone.

I am glad to return to Apache Openoffice.org

I am robertzhou, form china . I am working for cs2c . I am old friend of
OpenOffice.org.
many years ago, I was working for freamework and developer. I'd like to
work for Apache OpenOffice.org.
I'm insterting in Aoo performace 、framework 、 chinese localization、UOF .

I' m going to work for UOF. who can tell me how to start ?

Best Regards.

robertzhou

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Joe Schaefer]

HELL NO.  Please DO NOT USE your crawler
on the live ooo bugzilla instance.


If it so happens that you still need that
data for some reason, ask for a Bugzilla
database dump from infrastruct...@apache.org.

Someone will be able to provide you with
a sanitized version that contains the info
you require.




>
> From: Zhe Liu 
>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer  
>Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 1:08 AM
>Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?
> 
>2012/5/4 Joe Schaefer :
>> I explained the situation to Lifeng Wang
>>
>> already and removed the ban.  Please scale
>> back your attachment crawler should you
>> ever need to use it again.
>
>You mean you have added the IP to exceptions and we will use the
>crawler without any concern in future?
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> From: Zhe Liu 
>>>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer 
>>>Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 12:58 AM
>>>Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?
>>>
>>>Hi Joe,
>>>After investigation, I found our team used a robot to collect the
>>>attached documents from bugzilla for testing AOO.  That leads our IP
>>>to be blocked.
>>>IP: 202.108.130.138
>>>Could you tell us what is the detail firewall rule? We can change our
>>>the schedule and strategy to avoid the problem.
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>2012/5/4 Joe Schaefer :
 From what IP address are you trying to connect?
 If you send it to me privately I'll check our
 firewall rules- if its not there I'm afraid there's
 little else we can do.




>
> From: lifeng wang 
>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:20 PM
>Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?
>
>fail to ping  issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121)
>
>2012/5/4 Rob Weir 
>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang 
>> wrote:
>> > Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
>> >
>> > 2012/5/3 Rob Weir 
>>
>> Works fine for me right now.
>>
>> Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> >
>> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>  > Rob Weir wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
>> >> >> password?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
>> >> >  --
>> >> > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
>> tracker
>> >> > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
>> reset
>> >> > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
>> >> footer.
>> >> >
>> >> > [so far, instruction still apply]
>> >> >
>> >> > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
>> >> "myuser",
>> >> > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
>> >> > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to
>> the
>> >> > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
>> >> > pre-migration to the ASF.
>> >> >
>> >> > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
>> >> address -
>> >> > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
>> >> reported
>> >> > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
>> >> months
>> >> > ago]
>> >>
>> >> OK.  I updated the text:  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
>> >>
>> >> Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
>> >> >  --
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >  Andrea.
>> >>
>>
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Best Regards
>> >From aliu...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Best Regards
>From aliu...@gmail.com
>
>
>

Re: Propose testlink

[Yan Ji]

TestLink[0] is an test management tool which is based on an open source project 
licensed under GNU GPL. To adopt this tool, we need to find a home for it, a 
host web server, PHP, back-end database, bug tracking system(we can use current 
bugzilla)

http://testlink.sourceforge.net/docs/testLink.php

Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji

On May 4, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:

> Please provide some information about TestLink.
> 
> What are the requirements? Is it an open source tool? What is the license? Is 
> there a website with information?
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> On May 3, 2012, at 7:51 PM, YangTerry wrote:
> 
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>> This tool can help us manager the testcase easily, also in check the result.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Wei
>> 
>>> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:12:51 +0800
>>> Subject: Re: Propose testlink
>>> From: phoenix.wan...@gmail.com
>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks
>>> 
>>> 2012/5/4 Zhe Liu 
>>> 
 +1
 Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test
 case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users
 feel it's too complex, we can customized it later.
 
 2012/5/3 Yan Ji :
> Hi all,
>  As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for
 test management, such as test project management, test specification
 management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo
 project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit.
> 
> I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any
 place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is
 about 6.17 GB. Who can help?
> 
> Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji
> 
 
 
 
 --
 Best Regards
 From aliu...@gmail.com
 
>>
> 

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Zhe Liu]

2012/5/4 Joe Schaefer :
> I explained the situation to Lifeng Wang
>
> already and removed the ban.  Please scale
> back your attachment crawler should you
> ever need to use it again.

You mean you have added the IP to exceptions and we will use the
crawler without any concern in future?

> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Zhe Liu 
>>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer 
>>Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 12:58 AM
>>Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?
>>
>>Hi Joe,
>>After investigation, I found our team used a robot to collect the
>>attached documents from bugzilla for testing AOO.  That leads our IP
>>to be blocked.
>>IP: 202.108.130.138
>>Could you tell us what is the detail firewall rule? We can change our
>>the schedule and strategy to avoid the problem.
>>Thanks.
>>
>>2012/5/4 Joe Schaefer :
>>> From what IP address are you trying to connect?
>>> If you send it to me privately I'll check our
>>> firewall rules- if its not there I'm afraid there's
>>> little else we can do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

 From: lifeng wang 
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?

fail to ping  issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121)

2012/5/4 Rob Weir 

> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang 
> wrote:
> > Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
> >
> > 2012/5/3 Rob Weir 
>
> Works fine for me right now.
>
> Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?
>
> -Rob
>
> >
> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
> >> wrote:
> >>  > Rob Weir wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
> >> >> password?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
> >> >  --
> >> > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
> tracker
> >> > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
> reset
> >> > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
> >> footer.
> >> >
> >> > [so far, instruction still apply]
> >> >
> >> > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
> >> "myuser",
> >> > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
> >> > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to
> the
> >> > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
> >> > pre-migration to the ASF.
> >> >
> >> > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
> >> address -
> >> > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
> >> reported
> >> > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
> >> months
> >> > ago]
> >>
> >> OK.  I updated the text:  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
> >>
> >> Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> >  --
> >> > Regards,
> >> >  Andrea.
> >>
>



>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Best Regards
> >From aliu...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>



-- 
Best Regards
>From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Joe Schaefer]

I explained the situation to Lifeng Wang

already and removed the ban.  Please scale
back your attachment crawler should you
ever need to use it again.

Thanks.




>
> From: Zhe Liu 
>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer  
>Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 12:58 AM
>Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?
> 
>Hi Joe,
>After investigation, I found our team used a robot to collect the
>attached documents from bugzilla for testing AOO.  That leads our IP
>to be blocked.
>IP: 202.108.130.138
>Could you tell us what is the detail firewall rule? We can change our
>the schedule and strategy to avoid the problem.
>Thanks.
>
>2012/5/4 Joe Schaefer :
>> From what IP address are you trying to connect?
>> If you send it to me privately I'll check our
>> firewall rules- if its not there I'm afraid there's
>> little else we can do.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> From: lifeng wang 
>>>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:20 PM
>>>Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?
>>>
>>>fail to ping  issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121)
>>>
>>>2012/5/4 Rob Weir 
>>>
 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang 
 wrote:
 > Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
 >
 > 2012/5/3 Rob Weir 

 Works fine for me right now.

 Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?

 -Rob

 >
 >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
 >> wrote:
 >>  > Rob Weir wrote:
 >> >>
 >> >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
 >> >> password?
 >> >
 >> >
 >> > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
 >> >  --
 >> > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
 tracker
 >> > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
 reset
 >> > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
 >> footer.
 >> >
 >> > [so far, instruction still apply]
 >> >
 >> > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
 >> "myuser",
 >> > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
 >> > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to
 the
 >> > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
 >> > pre-migration to the ASF.
 >> >
 >> > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
 >> address -
 >> > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
 >> reported
 >> > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
 >> months
 >> > ago]
 >>
 >> OK.  I updated the text:  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
 >>
 >> Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
 >>
 >> -Rob
 >>
 >> >  --
 >> > Regards,
 >> >  Andrea.
 >>

>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Best Regards
>From aliu...@gmail.com
>
>
>

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Zhe Liu]

Hi Joe,
After investigation, I found our team used a robot to collect the
attached documents from bugzilla for testing AOO.  That leads our IP
to be blocked.
IP: 202.108.130.138
Could you tell us what is the detail firewall rule? We can change our
the schedule and strategy to avoid the problem.
Thanks.

2012/5/4 Joe Schaefer :
> From what IP address are you trying to connect?
> If you send it to me privately I'll check our
> firewall rules- if its not there I'm afraid there's
> little else we can do.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: lifeng wang 
>>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:20 PM
>>Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?
>>
>>fail to ping  issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121)
>>
>>2012/5/4 Rob Weir 
>>
>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
>>> >
>>> > 2012/5/3 Rob Weir 
>>>
>>> Works fine for me right now.
>>>
>>> Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>> >
>>> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>  > Rob Weir wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
>>> >> >> password?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
>>> >> >  --
>>> >> > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
>>> tracker
>>> >> > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
>>> reset
>>> >> > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
>>> >> footer.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > [so far, instruction still apply]
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
>>> >> "myuser",
>>> >> > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
>>> >> > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to
>>> the
>>> >> > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
>>> >> > pre-migration to the ASF.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
>>> >> address -
>>> >> > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
>>> >> reported
>>> >> > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
>>> >> months
>>> >> > ago]
>>> >>
>>> >> OK.  I updated the text:  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
>>> >>
>>> >> Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
>>> >>
>>> >> -Rob
>>> >>
>>> >> >  --
>>> >> > Regards,
>>> >> >  Andrea.
>>> >>
>>>
>>
>>
>>



-- 
Best Regards
>From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: Introduce

[Yue Helen]

Wonderful...with more developers in, we can do more in the next release.

2012/5/4 taotao.liu 

> Hello all,
>
> I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here.
>
> I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian
> district.
>
> Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth.
>
> regards,
> LiuTao
>
> 2012-05-04
>
>
>
> China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao
> China  Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106
>
> http://www.cs2c.com.cn
> http://modularization.openoffice.org
> mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn
>

Re: hi

[Yue Helen]

Welcome! Glad to see more and more developers in.

Helen

2012/5/4 许山川 

> **
>  hi,all
> I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now,
> Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including
> the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress
> I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong
> willing to participate AOOo community.
> Best Regards,
>
>  2012-05-04
> --
>   China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu
> hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110
>

Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[drew]

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 23:55 -0400, drew wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:35 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> > Am 05/03/2012 09:48 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >  One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
> >  OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For
> >  example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
> >  list?
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't recall the registration doing this...
> > >>>
> > 
> >  If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
> >  that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our
> >  opportunity to engage with our users.
> > 
> >  I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
> >  "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice"? That could go to a page
> >  where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
> >  It would take the place of the old registration system.



> > 
> > I think that a blackboard or megaphone could fit as icon. Some examples 
> > (don't look to close to content and size)
> > 
> > http://www.thegraphicmac.com/wp-content/uploads/aps_facebook-notify-icon.jpg
> > 
> > http://www.trueswitch.com/images/notify_icon_big.gif
> > 
> > http://ranchero.com/images/nnw3.2AppIcon-512.png
> > 
> > http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/snake3d/snake3d/snake3d00038/11270762-megaphone-sale-announcement-loudspeaker-news-communication-icon-golden-red-bullhorn-message-symbol-a.jpg
> > 
> 
> Hi Marcus
> 
> Nice, looked those over - took some inspiration from that and worked up a 
> graphic, thinking of course that this is going to a keep_in_touch type screen 
> - Is that right, what the idea was now.
> Anyway - here is a png of the idea, I've again used the Oo.o 3 series
> branding element, the wire wave - altered that just a tad with a change
> form white to the current logo blue.
> 
> http://lo-portal.us/aoo/temp/g6897.png
> 
> What do you think? 


Made a change to that, can see a png as 
http://lo-portal.us/aoo/temp/rect17764.png

and the inkscape file as 
http://lo-portal.us/aoo/temp/keep-in-touch_.svg




//drew

Re: hi

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

Hello Xu Shanchuan!

(BTW, would you be able to use a Roman alphabet name? Not all of us can 
decipher the ideograms.)


On 2012-05-03, at 23:35 , 许山川 wrote:

> hi,all
> I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now,   
> Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including
> the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress
> I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong willing 
> to participate AOOo community.
> Best Regards,

I'm as delighted to greet you as I was your colleague :-) A lot has to be done, 
and I am sure we will appreciate your experience in this and your wisdom!  And 
I also see your company's great presence here as vital to growing the Beijing 
and even Chinese open source and OpenOffice community and market. 

Let me and the rest of us on this list know how we can help you and further 
ease your way into this very friendly, very global, very sleepless community :-)

Oh, as I mentioned to your colleague, you may want to refrain from including 
your Spam-friendly personal information. This list is public, and most Apache 
lists are that way, too.

Cheers,
Louis
>  
> 2012-05-04
> China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu
> hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110

Re: Introduce

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

Hello, Liu Tao!



On 2012-05-03, at 22:56 , taotao.liu wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here. 
> 
> I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian district.
> 
> Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth.

I'm delighted to see you and your colleague here on this list willing to 
contribute to Apache OpenOffice. I'm not sure everyone is familiar with your 
company's past work but if you would care to inform the list, I'd appreciate 
it.  

Please let me and the others here know how we can help you and get you and your 
team going. This community is very friendly, very supportive, and all that we 
do is transparent and accountable to the community, according to our bylaws. 

best,
Louis

PS this, like most other Apache lists, is public. Therefore I'd generally 
recommend against posting your telephone number and other data Spammers love.


> 
> regards,
> LiuTao 
> 
> 2012-05-04 
> 
> 
> 
> China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao
> China  Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106
> 
> http://www.cs2c.com.cn
> http://modularization.openoffice.org
> mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn

[User Experience] - What is the status of the user experience project?

[Kevin Grignon]

Hello All,

Does anyone have an update on the status of the AOO user experience
project? See http://www.openoffice.org/ux/ for current information.

Are Frank Leohmann and Christoph Noack still involved?

How might we validate the names of UX community as found on:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Community?

Thoughts?

Regards,
Kevin

Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[drew]

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:35 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 05/03/2012 09:48 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >
> >
> > On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>  One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
>  OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For
>  example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
>  list?
> >>>
> >>> I don't recall the registration doing this...
> >>>
> 
>  If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
>  that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our
>  opportunity to engage with our users.
> 
>  I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
>  "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice"? That could go to a page
>  where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
>  It would take the place of the old registration system.
> 
>  -Rob
> >>>
> >>> I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
> >>> or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.
> >>>
> >>
> >> If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar
> >> size and color palette as the others. But an icon of what?
> >
> >
> > well...maybe one of more "artistic" members could weigh in on this
> > one... I don't have any ideas...
> 
> I think that a blackboard or megaphone could fit as icon. Some examples 
> (don't look to close to content and size)
> 
> http://www.thegraphicmac.com/wp-content/uploads/aps_facebook-notify-icon.jpg
> 
> http://www.trueswitch.com/images/notify_icon_big.gif
> 
> http://ranchero.com/images/nnw3.2AppIcon-512.png
> 
> http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/snake3d/snake3d/snake3d00038/11270762-megaphone-sale-announcement-loudspeaker-news-communication-icon-golden-red-bullhorn-message-symbol-a.jpg
> 

Hi Marcus

Nice, looked those over - took some inspiration from that and worked up a 
graphic, thinking of course that this is going to a keep_in_touch type screen - 
Is that right, what the idea was now.
Anyway - here is a png of the idea, I've again used the Oo.o 3 series
branding element, the wire wave - altered that just a tad with a change
form white to the current logo blue.

http://lo-portal.us/aoo/temp/g6897.png

What do you think? 

//drew

hi

[许山川]

hi,all
I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now,   
Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including 
the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress 
I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong willing 
to participate AOOo community.
Best Regards,

2012-05-04 



China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu
hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110

Re: Re: Introduce

[taotao.liu]

Nice to meet you here again Peter ;-)

 
>Hi Liu Tao,
>nice to meet you here again and great to see that CS2C is joining in. :-)
>Peter
>On 5/4/2012 10:56 AM, taotao.liu wrote:

Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted

[Nancy K]

Kevin
I like this idea a lot and am interested in being involved in this approach if 
possible.  The few months I have read mail posts between the developers in this 
project have been such an eye opener.  I have never seen a group of peers work 
so beautifully together.  I get the sense of 'family' - only better. I look 
forward to hearing more of your ideas!
Nancy 
 
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 From: Kevin Grignon 
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted
 
Hello everyone,

Thanks for your interest in this approach. I will captures some thoughts on
how we might consider proceeding and share with the group shortly.

In the interim, I encourage you to think about the protagonist in our
story: the AOO users. Who are they? What do they desire? What is important
to them? How does AOO integrate into their lives?

Regards,
Kevin
*

*
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:

> Hi.
>
> 2012/5/2 Kevin Grignon 
>
> > Do you like to write and tell stories? Do you want to bring an Apple-like
> > approach to designing our products? AOO UX could use your support.
> >
> > To better understand how people integrate our product into their lives,
> the
> > UX sub-community is looking to author a series of stories and usage
> > scenarios.
> >
> > The goal is to understand how people use AOO, and how they want it to
> > compliment their physical and virtual realities.
> >
> > Thoughts? Interested?
> >
>
> Good idea !
>
> I have interested in writer aoo in pt-br, for future. ;)
>
> Best,
> Albino
>

Re: Introduce

[Kevin Grignon]

Welcome LiuTao.

Looking forward to your participation and insight into unique needs of the
Chinese user.

For information on areas where you and your team can have an impact, check
out: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted.

Regards,
Kevin



On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, taotao.liu  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here.
>
> I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian
> district.
>
> Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth.
>
> regards,
> LiuTao
>
> 2012-05-04
>
>
>
> China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao
> China  Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106
>
> http://www.cs2c.com.cn
> http://modularization.openoffice.org
> mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn
>

Re: Propose testlink

[Xia Zhao]

Well, we  have used wiki for AOO 3.4 to record test cases and test results.
They are useful when test cases are not with a huge volume. For further
productive test cases management, one easy to use and maintenance tool is
must.

I give +1 here. But we need resolve the problem like:
- Does Apache host the server?
- Any legal issue?

Also we need test cases tool admin, would you like take this role?

Best regards,

Lily

2012/5/3 Yan Ji 

> Hi all,
>As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for
> test management, such as test project management, test specification
> management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo
> project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit.
>
>   I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place
> I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about
> 6.17 GB. Who can help?
>
> Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji
>
>

Re: Introduce

[Peter Junge]

Hi Liu Tao,

nice to meet you here again and great to see that CS2C is joining in. :-)

Peter

On 5/4/2012 10:56 AM, taotao.liu wrote:

Hello all,

I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here.

I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian district.

Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth.

regards,
LiuTao

2012-05-04



China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao
China  Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106

http://www.cs2c.com.cn
http://modularization.openoffice.org
mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn

Re: Propose testlink

[Dave Fisher]

Please provide some information about TestLink.

What are the requirements? Is it an open source tool? What is the license? Is 
there a website with information?

Regards,
Dave

On May 3, 2012, at 7:51 PM, YangTerry wrote:

> 
> +1
> 
> This tool can help us manager the testcase easily, also in check the result.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wei
> 
>> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:12:51 +0800
>> Subject: Re: Propose testlink
>> From: phoenix.wan...@gmail.com
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> 
>> +1
>> support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks
>> 
>> 2012/5/4 Zhe Liu 
>> 
>>> +1
>>> Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test
>>> case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users
>>> feel it's too complex, we can customized it later.
>>> 
>>> 2012/5/3 Yan Ji :
 Hi all,
   As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for
>>> test management, such as test project management, test specification
>>> management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo
>>> project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit.
 
  I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any
>>> place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is
>>> about 6.17 GB. Who can help?
 
 Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Best Regards
>>> From aliu...@gmail.com
>>> 
> 

RE: Propose testlink

[YangTerry]

+1

This tool can help us manager the testcase easily, also in check the result.



Thanks,

Wei

> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:12:51 +0800
> Subject: Re: Propose testlink
> From: phoenix.wan...@gmail.com
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> 
> +1
> support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks
> 
> 2012/5/4 Zhe Liu 
> 
> > +1
> > Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test
> > case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users
> > feel it's too complex, we can customized it later.
> >
> > 2012/5/3 Yan Ji :
> >  > Hi all,
> > >As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for
> > test management, such as test project management, test specification
> > management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo
> > project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit.
> > >
> > >   I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any
> > place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is
> > about 6.17 GB. Who can help?
> > >
> > > Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> > From aliu...@gmail.com
> >
  

Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted

[Kevin Grignon]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for your interest in this approach. I will captures some thoughts on
how we might consider proceeding and share with the group shortly.

In the interim, I encourage you to think about the protagonist in our
story: the AOO users. Who are they? What do they desire? What is important
to them? How does AOO integrate into their lives?

Regards,
Kevin
*

*
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:

> Hi.
>
> 2012/5/2 Kevin Grignon 
>
> > Do you like to write and tell stories? Do you want to bring an Apple-like
> > approach to designing our products? AOO UX could use your support.
> >
> > To better understand how people integrate our product into their lives,
> the
> > UX sub-community is looking to author a series of stories and usage
> > scenarios.
> >
> > The goal is to understand how people use AOO, and how they want it to
> > compliment their physical and virtual realities.
> >
> > Thoughts? Interested?
> >
>
> Good idea !
>
> I have interested in writer aoo in pt-br, for future. ;)
>
> Best,
> Albino
>

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Peter Junge]

I'm located in Beijing Haidian district. I can reach issues.apache.org 
both from my employers office (AFAIK hosted by China Unicom) and with my 
phone (China Mobile), without any trick.


Peter

On 5/4/2012 10:23 AM, Zhe Liu wrote:

Unable to reach 140.211.11.121 from yesterday.
I guess it's a network issue in Beijing, maybe the whole China. Weird.
I can ping successfully other 140.211.11.* IP.


2012/5/4 Rob Weir:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang  wrote:

Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing

2012/5/3 Rob Weir


Works fine for me right now.

Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?

-Rob




On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti
wrote:
  >  Rob Weir wrote:


Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
password?



Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
  --
Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or

footer.


[so far, instruction still apply]

Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was

"myuser",

then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
"myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
pre-migration to the ASF.

[this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail

address -

the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users

reported

that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account

months

ago]


OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?

-Rob


  --
Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Joe Schaefer]

>From what IP address are you trying to connect?
If you send it to me privately I'll check our
firewall rules- if its not there I'm afraid there's
little else we can do.




>
> From: lifeng wang 
>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:20 PM
>Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website?
> 
>fail to ping  issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121)
>
>2012/5/4 Rob Weir 
>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang 
>> wrote:
>> > Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
>> >
>> > 2012/5/3 Rob Weir 
>>
>> Works fine for me right now.
>>
>> Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> >
>> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>  > Rob Weir wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
>> >> >> password?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
>> >> >  --
>> >> > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
>> tracker
>> >> > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
>> reset
>> >> > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
>> >> footer.
>> >> >
>> >> > [so far, instruction still apply]
>> >> >
>> >> > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
>> >> "myuser",
>> >> > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
>> >> > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to
>> the
>> >> > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
>> >> > pre-migration to the ASF.
>> >> >
>> >> > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
>> >> address -
>> >> > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
>> >> reported
>> >> > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
>> >> months
>> >> > ago]
>> >>
>> >> OK.  I updated the text:  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
>> >>
>> >> Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
>> >> >  --
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >  Andrea.
>> >>
>>
>
>
>

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Xia Zhao]

Li Feng,

Network problem, please use proxy.

Best regards,

Lily

2012/5/4 lifeng wang 

> Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
>
> 2012/5/3 Rob Weir 
>
> > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
> > wrote:
> >  > Rob Weir wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
> > >> password?
> > >
> > >
> > > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
> > >  --
> > > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
> tracker
> > > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
> reset
> > > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
> > footer.
> > >
> > > [so far, instruction still apply]
> > >
> > > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
> > "myuser",
> > > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
> > > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to
> the
> > > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
> > > pre-migration to the ASF.
> > >
> > > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
> > address -
> > > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
> > reported
> > > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
> > months
> > > ago]
> >
> > OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
> >
> > Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > >  --
> > > Regards,
> > >  Andrea.
> >
>

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Zhe Liu]

Unable to reach 140.211.11.121 from yesterday.
I guess it's a network issue in Beijing, maybe the whole China. Weird.
I can ping successfully other 140.211.11.* IP.


2012/5/4 Rob Weir :
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang  wrote:
>> Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
>>
>> 2012/5/3 Rob Weir 
>
> Works fine for me right now.
>
> Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?
>
> -Rob
>
>>
>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
>>> wrote:
>>>  > Rob Weir wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
>>> >> password?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
>>> >  --
>>> > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
>>> > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
>>> > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
>>> footer.
>>> >
>>> > [so far, instruction still apply]
>>> >
>>> > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
>>> "myuser",
>>> > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
>>> > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
>>> > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
>>> > pre-migration to the ASF.
>>> >
>>> > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
>>> address -
>>> > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
>>> reported
>>> > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
>>> months
>>> > ago]
>>>
>>> OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
>>>
>>> Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>> >  --
>>> > Regards,
>>> >  Andrea.
>>>



-- 
Best Regards
>From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[lifeng wang]

fail to ping  issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121)

2012/5/4 Rob Weir 

> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang 
> wrote:
> > Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
> >
> > 2012/5/3 Rob Weir 
>
> Works fine for me right now.
>
> Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?
>
> -Rob
>
> >
> >> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
> >> wrote:
> >>  > Rob Weir wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
> >> >> password?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
> >> >  --
> >> > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org
> tracker
> >> > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To
> reset
> >> > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
> >> footer.
> >> >
> >> > [so far, instruction still apply]
> >> >
> >> > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
> >> "myuser",
> >> > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
> >> > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to
> the
> >> > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
> >> > pre-migration to the ASF.
> >> >
> >> > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
> >> address -
> >> > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
> >> reported
> >> > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
> >> months
> >> > ago]
> >>
> >> OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
> >>
> >> Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> >  --
> >> > Regards,
> >> >  Andrea.
> >>
>

Re: Propose testlink

[lifeng wang]

+1
support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks

2012/5/4 Zhe Liu 

> +1
> Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test
> case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users
> feel it's too complex, we can customized it later.
>
> 2012/5/3 Yan Ji :
>  > Hi all,
> >As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for
> test management, such as test project management, test specification
> management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo
> project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit.
> >
> >   I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any
> place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is
> about 6.17 GB. Who can help?
> >
> > Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards
> From aliu...@gmail.com
>

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang  wrote:
> Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing
>
> 2012/5/3 Rob Weir 

Works fine for me right now.

Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ?

-Rob

>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
>> wrote:
>>  > Rob Weir wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
>> >> password?
>> >
>> >
>> > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
>> >  --
>> > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
>> > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
>> > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
>> footer.
>> >
>> > [so far, instruction still apply]
>> >
>> > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
>> "myuser",
>> > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
>> > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
>> > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
>> > pre-migration to the ASF.
>> >
>> > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
>> address -
>> > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
>> reported
>> > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
>> months
>> > ago]
>>
>> OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
>>
>> Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> >  --
>> > Regards,
>> >  Andrea.
>>

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[lifeng wang]

Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing

2012/5/3 Rob Weir 

> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti 
> wrote:
>  > Rob Weir wrote:
> >>
> >> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
> >> password?
> >
> >
> > Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
> >  --
> > Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
> > must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
> > your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or
> footer.
> >
> > [so far, instruction still apply]
> >
> > Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was
> "myuser",
> > then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
> > "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
> > e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
> > pre-migration to the ASF.
> >
> > [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail
> address -
> > the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users
> reported
> > that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account
> months
> > ago]
>
> OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
>
> Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?
>
> -Rob
>
> >  --
> > Regards,
> >  Andrea.
>

Re: Propose testlink

[Zhe Liu]

+1
Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test
case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users
feel it's too complex, we can customized it later.

2012/5/3 Yan Ji :
> Hi all,
>    As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for test 
> management, such as test project management, test specification management, 
> test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo project, I'm sure we 
> will gain lots of benefit.
>
>   I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place I 
> can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about 6.17 
> GB. Who can help?
>
> Thanks & Best Regards, Yan Ji
>



-- 
Best Regards
>From aliu...@gmail.com

Re: Feature idea - prompt users to fill user information meta data

[Nancy K]

These are wonderful ideas! If the person that installs OpenOffice gets a thank 
you notice PLUS links to help customize their experience - i.e. template links, 
etc.   Everyone likes to personalize - and it also leaves a good feeling when 
you get an unexpected bonus. 

I have an idea for a thank you design or maybe an email design - tell me what 
you think:
* An international envelope design - 
* 
http://www.123rf.com/photo_4088994_airmail-letter-with-uk-postage-meter-stamp.html
* 
http://www.123rf.com/photo_9237063_blank-air-mail-letter-from-ivory-coast-with-football-world-cup-stamp-on-it-cancelled-in-agboville.html (using
 the wings and OpenOffice in place of the plane and par avion )

* The Apache OpenOffice logo on a stamp outline (similar to this but 
without any particular 
country)http://www.123rf.com/photo_12662325_photo-postage-stamp-on-a-black-background.html
* Javascript or php enabled entries so that the user WANTS to fill out 
the form - I very much like this example - scroll down halfway and look at this 
comment box that lets the user fill out the name, etc. This is a lot more 
talent than I have, but the general 
idea http://www.livingdesign.info/2012/04/30/incept-by-alex-teuscher/#respond  

Since you mention meta data, is there any organic SEO research going on at this 
time?  If so, I would suggest providing any information compiled from this new 
form/page, old openoffice.org audience information plus any new information 
gained from Google (and other) analytics in one wiki. Possibly a future/current 
SEO page?  Knowing how the user found OpenOffice would help in organic SEO 
keyword research. This could help us design new landing pages. Keyword research 
would also reveal the words to be placed strategically in articles, blogs and 
the 'alt' section/title/heading tags of the html code. 

Nancy  
 
     Nancy      Web Design   
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 From: drew 
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: Feature idea - prompt users to fill user information meta data
 
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 23:13 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
> 2012/5/3 drew :
> > On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
> >> 2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti :
> >> > On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
> >> >> OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey
> >> > (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for
> >> > registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.
> >> >
> >> > You can get an idea of the survey at
> >> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >  Andrea.
> >>
> >> It was also used to register the user "with him/herself": The
> >> registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools →
> >> Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that
> >> info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for
> >> example that documents will always open on the first page and not on
> >> the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document
> >> author.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >
> > Hi Ricardo
> >
> > That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the
> > loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information.
> >
> > I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the
> > description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement.
> >
> > Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a
> > (strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user
> > enter that information.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > //drew
> >
> >
> 
> Instead of asking for this on install time, I think we need to define
> a "first run wizard" or something like that. It could be a simple
> document that opens on first run with a "thanks for using this
> program" message and a couple of buttons to perform some basic
> customizations, like adding the user info. I'm too short of sleep
> today to build a good feature request, but I'll try to think on
> something during the weekend. Ideas are welcomed ;)
> 
> Regards

Howdy Ricardo

Wonderful - I changed the subject (as you see).

I was thinking also, prompted from another email just now that pointed
to a 3.4.1 feature request page, that there is a 4.0 feature request
page on the cwiki also.. per change that is an even better vector to
start with.

Catch you later,

//drew

Need to rename ure-runtime

[Fernando Cassia]

Hi,

I am runnign Fedora 17. On it I installed Apache OO 3.4 RC1.
I do not have LibreOffice installed on my system.

However, launching the system updater notifies me that there is an
update available for URE-Runtime (a component of LibreOffice) and
proceeds to install such update.

Needless to say, this installs over Apache OO 3.4 ure-runtime.
If an update from the Fedora repos breaks Apache OpenOffice 3.4 who's to
blame?.

I asked this on the Fedora mailing list and Caolán McNamara
caol...@redhat.com replied:

--
Both Fedora openoffice.org and the original upstream openoffice.org
ended up with a package called openoffice.org-ure. From various twists
and turns the Fedora -ure ended up with a 1 Epoch so all fedora -ure
packages are a higher n-v-r that the OOo one. Apache OOo has now
presumably got the same package names as well.

Fedora libreoffice has an upgrade path to update the Fedora
openoffice.org so it would attempt to upgrade anything called
openoffice.org-ure if installed.

Can block the libreoffice-ure in your yum.conf
--

I think this needs to be adressed by either LibreOffice or Apache OO so
that neither package steps over the ure-runtime of the other.

Thoughts? Comments?

Thanks.
FC
-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
- George Orwell

Re: Introduces

[Donald Harbison]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:20 PM, luizheli  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Once you're done the press release we will translate it and inform the
> whole of Brazil about the big news: Apache OpenOffice return.
>
>
OK, great. Please hold 'your fire' until I provide you the final draft of
the Press Release for your translation. I hope to deliver this to you by
the end of tomorrow, Friday, May 4.
That should give you enough time to prepare your plans for Brasil, and
coordinate our schedules for announcement on May 8th.

Thank you!

/don

> rgs
>
> Luiz
>
>
> Em 02-05-2012 12:26, Donald Harbison escreveu:
> > Welcome Luiz!  I'm sure you and Claudio and other Brazilians will have
> alot
> > of work to do!  I hope that you can write about our news when it becomes
> > officially public as soon as next week.
> >
> > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto <
> biasut...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Luiz.
> >>
> >> 2012/5/1 luizheli 
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I am Luiz Oliveira, a journalistfrom Brazil. I led for a time
> >>> the nationwide BrOffice users group. At the time we still had a
> >>> magazine[1] created to give tips on the use of OpenOffice.org suite /
> >>> BrOffice, designed by my friend Claudio Filho. I helped organize some
> >>> editions of the National BrOffice event held via videoconference with
> >>> the participation of up to 04 countries, along with other comrades here
> >>> in Brazil. I believe in the Apache OpenOffice project and want to
> >>> contribute to more Brazilians know it.
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>
> http://wiki.broffice.org/raw-attachment/wiki/Zine/Edicoes/RB-ED017.pdf?format=raw
> >>> rgds,
> >>>
> >>> Luiz Oliveira
> >>>
> >> Welcome friend. ;)
> >>
> >> We are the list Escritório Livre [1].
> >>
> >> 1 - www.escritoriolivre.org
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Albino @bino28
> >>
>
>

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

[Donald Harbison]

Juergen et al, (*and I mean everyone*!),

This is so amazing. My 'hats', my 'Apache Hat', 'my IBM Hat', are off to
you guys. If I may be so direct as to say, we have come together in a new
way, fashioning the future from the past. This may sound simple, but it is
not. I think we can agree on this.

This is just the beginning. We have very many steep hills to climb and more
trust to build and more arguments to wage. That's the norm, right? Our
users depend on us now, we must not let them down, while we invite them to
join and work with us at the same time.

Onwards!

/don

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
wrote:

> The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1  has
> concluded.
>
> The ballot passed.
>
> VOTE TALLY
>
> +1:
>
> IPMC members:
>
> +1 Marvin Humphrey
> +1 Dave Fisher
> +1 Jim Jagielski
>
> For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-**
> dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3E
>
>
> Thank you for your support
>
> Juergen
>
>
>

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

[Albino Biasutti Neto]

Hi.

2012/5/3 Marcus (OOo) 

> I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning
>
> Marcus
>

One question?!

The Risto who will coordinate all translations (as a scale) of the next
version? That is, a general coordinator of the languages ​​and then.

It would be a good idea, if he make available.

Thanks,
Albino

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

[Albino Biasutti Neto]

Hi.

2012/5/3 Hagar Delest 

> Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto <
> biasut...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>  2012/5/2 Wolf Halton
>>
>>  Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right
>>> now.
>>> Should be interesting.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Good!
>>
>> How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
>>
>
> No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded
> the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no
> need of the --force-all option.
>
> The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the
> LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me).
>
>
Understand, thanks.
Albino

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

[drew]

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 19:42 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
> http://sourcefreedom.com
> Apache developer:
> wolfhal...@apache.org
> On May 3, 2012 5:20 PM, "drew"  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:29 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest  >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto <
> > > > biasut...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > > >
> > > >  2012/5/2 Wolf Halton
> > > >>
> > > >>  Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system
> right
> > > >>> now.
> > > >>> Should be interesting.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Good!
> > > >>
> > > >> How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have
> donwloaded
> > > > the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line,
> no
> > > > need of the --force-all option.
> > > >
> > > > The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get
> the
> > > > LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem
> (for me).
> > > >
> > > > Hagar
> > > >
> > >
> > > I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple
> very-similar
> > > office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with.
> > > :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio
> > > 12.04
> > >
> >
> > Right - well, Hagar is referring not to the application icons, having
> > multiple installs (including as it has been for a long time, both the
> > distro version of OO.o and the vanilla version) - it's the file
> > association icons. Installing the vanilla packages doesn't update the
> > system settings for the file association.
> >
> > That's more a question IMO about how we would want the files in the PPA
> > to install - as the current vanilla deb packages do, my first vote would
> > be for this. Though I would be in favor of offering an option to change
> > the file type (mime type) associations, ala Windows install.
> >
> > //drew
> >
> Oh, right.  I see.
> I agree with offering a choice rather than just clobbering the old
> associations or leaving them alone as they were.

Hi Wolf,

My opinion would be that for the first step we would to deliver from the
PPA exactly the same results one would get downloading the binary DEB
files and following the manual installation procedure.

Once we actually have that, checked and functioning well, IMO we should
look at what extensions are appropriate - that issue of mime/assoc one,
integration support for Unity, what do about Evolution.. etc. Anyway so
I'd think.

//drew

Re: Introduces

[luizheli]

Hi,

Once you're done the press release we will translate it and inform the
whole of Brazil about the big news: Apache OpenOffice return.

rgs

Luiz


Em 02-05-2012 12:26, Donald Harbison escreveu:
> Welcome Luiz!  I'm sure you and Claudio and other Brazilians will have alot
> of work to do!  I hope that you can write about our news when it becomes
> officially public as soon as next week.
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Luiz.
>>
>> 2012/5/1 luizheli 
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am Luiz Oliveira, a journalistfrom Brazil. I led for a time
>>> the nationwide BrOffice users group. At the time we still had a
>>> magazine[1] created to give tips on the use of OpenOffice.org suite /
>>> BrOffice, designed by my friend Claudio Filho. I helped organize some
>>> editions of the National BrOffice event held via videoconference with
>>> the participation of up to 04 countries, along with other comrades here
>>> in Brazil. I believe in the Apache OpenOffice project and want to
>>> contribute to more Brazilians know it.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>> http://wiki.broffice.org/raw-attachment/wiki/Zine/Edicoes/RB-ED017.pdf?format=raw
>>> rgds,
>>>
>>> Luiz Oliveira
>>>
>> Welcome friend. ;)
>>
>> We are the list Escritório Livre [1].
>>
>> 1 - www.escritoriolivre.org
>>
>> Best,
>> Albino @bino28
>>

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

[Wolf Halton]

http://sourcefreedom.com
Apache developer:
wolfhal...@apache.org
On May 3, 2012 5:20 PM, "drew"  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:29 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
> > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest wrote:
> >
> > > Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto <
> > > biasut...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > >
> > >  2012/5/2 Wolf Halton
> > >>
> > >>  Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system
right
> > >>> now.
> > >>> Should be interesting.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Good!
> > >>
> > >> How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
> > >>
> > >
> > > No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have
donwloaded
> > > the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line,
no
> > > need of the --force-all option.
> > >
> > > The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get
the
> > > LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem
(for me).
> > >
> > > Hagar
> > >
> >
> > I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple
very-similar
> > office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with.
> > :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio
> > 12.04
> >
>
> Right - well, Hagar is referring not to the application icons, having
> multiple installs (including as it has been for a long time, both the
> distro version of OO.o and the vanilla version) - it's the file
> association icons. Installing the vanilla packages doesn't update the
> system settings for the file association.
>
> That's more a question IMO about how we would want the files in the PPA
> to install - as the current vanilla deb packages do, my first vote would
> be for this. Though I would be in favor of offering an option to change
> the file type (mime type) associations, ala Windows install.
>
> //drew
>
Oh, right.  I see.
I agree with offering a choice rather than just clobbering the old
associations or leaving them alone as they were.
-Wolf

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>> 
>> > Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi Marcus,
>> >>
>> >> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>> 
>> 
>>  Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
>> > would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have
>> a
>> > volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.
>> >
>> > Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded
>> download
>> > logic on the various NL pages.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Good idea to start.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
>> >>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
>> >> text
>> >> "green button" but there is no green "button".
>> >>
>> >> The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
>> >>
>> >> The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
>> >> "legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
>> >>
>> >> Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html
>> ,
>> >> from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
>> >>
>> >> I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
>> >>
>> >> Legacy OpenOffice.org
>> >>
>> >> If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
>> >> visit
>> >> theApache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
>> >> archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
>> >> it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
>> >> other
>> >> and better choice.
>> >> OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public
>> License
>> >> v3 (LGPL v3)
>> >>
>> >> Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
>> >>
>> >> ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
>> > find
>> > the right words. ;-)
>> >
>> > Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
>> > clear now.
>> >
>> > Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  I've edited both webpages again:
>> 
>>  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
>>  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html
>> 
>>  When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
>> 
>> >>>
>> >>> On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:
>> >>>
>> >>> I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
>> >>> OpenOffice.org" button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
>> >> infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
>> >> pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).
>> >>
>> >>> icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
>> >>> does nothing. The other boxes work fine.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
>> >> default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work.
>> :-(
>> >
>> >
>> > oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css
>> >
>>
>>
>> I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a  and not
>> have a box at all.  Boxes seem to lead the user to click.  It looks
>> like a button.  So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box.
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
>> >> should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, so how DO we want this linked in?
>> >
>> > Right now, we have --
>> >
>> >
>> > Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
>> packs
>> > | Release Notes | MD5 checksums
>> >
>> > in the light green DL button options

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 05/03/2012 11:54 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks







Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.


I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.


Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
text
"green button" but there is no green "button".

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
"legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
the Apache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...


Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear
now.

Marcus


I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html


Users are likely do not really know about the difference between OOo and
AOO. Therefore the wording "start downloading the most recent version"
might be misleading. You mean the most recent version of OOo, but the
user might think, the most recent version in general.

Which version number the user is going to download, is said in the
heading. So the additional information about language and OS is
sufficient here. If many versions of a procuct are provided, the user
expects to get the most recent one when using default settings.

Suggestions
(1) Add "legacy"
"Click to start downloading the most recent legacy version for Windows
and German."
(2) or skip it totally
"Click to start downloading the legacy version for Windows and German.
(3) or repeat the version string from the heading
"Click to start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0 for Windows and German."

I have played a little bit around with Opera. It seems, that it
struggles about the variables VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA. I assume that
they are global and not present in this staging version. Hopefully Opera
shows the green part too, when the page is produced.

The orange disclaimer has anchor elements without target href. That
produces the hand-cursor in the browser, which indicates, that there is
a hyperlink. But here is no hyperlink and nothing happens, when
clicking. Therefore it it confusing. Please remove the anchor markup.


Thanks for your hints. Just to let you know that this will be my task 
for tomorrow.


Marcus


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

[DL] question concerning NL downloads...or not

[Kay Schenk]

Just a quick philosophical questions for the upcoming 3.4 download.

Right now, as I relayed in a previous message, I commented out ALL the
language entries for which we have do not have packs available on our
Apache mirror setup. What this means is that folks with a language string
identifier which we are no longer supporting will probably end up on the
"other.html" page, which is in English.

Another option would be to setup the language array by placing them back in
the process, and,  instead of commenting them out, indicate through one of
the flags already available that the release for the language is NOT
available on the mirror system, as many of them were already. Folks will
then be sent back to their current native language site. There, of course,
they will not find an update, but they won't be any worse off than they are
now in some respects.

Any thoughts on this? Is the latter alternative more desirable -- or not.


-- 

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Kay Schenk]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

> Am 05/04/2012 12:12 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
>
>>
>> On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>>> Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)
 wrote:

> Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>
>  Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Marcus,
>>>
>>> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
>>>

 Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

>
> Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
>> would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
>> volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.
>>
>> Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded
>> download
>> logic on the various NL pages.
>>
>
>
> I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.
>

>>>
>>> Good idea to start.
>>>
>>>
 The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**index.html


>>> The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
>>> text
>>> "green button" but there is no green "button".
>>>
>>> The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
>>>
>>> The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
>>> "legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
>>>
>>> Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/archive.html
>>> ,
>>> from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
>>>
>>> I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
>>>
>>> Legacy OpenOffice.org
>>>
>>> If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
>>> visit
>>> theApache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
>>> archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
>>> it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
>>> other
>>> and better choice.
>>> OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public
>>> License
>>> v3 (LGPL v3)
>>>
>>> Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
>> find
>> the right words. ;-)
>>
>> Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
>> clear now.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>
>
> I've edited both webpages again:
>
> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**index.html
> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**other.html
>
> When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
>
>
 On 
 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**index.html
 :

 I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
 OpenOffice.org" button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The

>>>
>>> I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
>>> infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
>>> pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).
>>>
>>>  icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
 does nothing. The other boxes work fine.

>>>
>>> In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
>>> default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-(
>>>
>>
>> oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css
>>
>
> Yes, maybe someone else can enlighten me?


so sorry...I am not even close to being a css guru. :(


>
>  Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?

>>>
>>> I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
>>> should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.
>>>
>>
>> OK, so how DO we want this linked in?
>>
>> Right now, we have --
>>
>>
>> Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
>> packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums
>>
>> in the light green DL button options section on:
>>
>

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Kay Schenk]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)
> wrote:
> 
>  Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> 
> > Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Marcus,
> >>
> >> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> 
> 
>  Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
> > would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have
> a
> > volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.
> >
> > Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded
> download
> > logic on the various NL pages.
> 
> 
> 
>  I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good idea to start.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
> >>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
> >>>
> >>
> >> The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
> >> text
> >> "green button" but there is no green "button".
> >>
> >> The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
> >>
> >> The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
> >> "legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
> >>
> >> Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html
> ,
> >> from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
> >>
> >> I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
> >>
> >> Legacy OpenOffice.org
> >>
> >> If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
> >> visit
> >> theApache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
> >> archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
> >> it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
> >> other
> >> and better choice.
> >> OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public
> License
> >> v3 (LGPL v3)
> >>
> >> Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
> >>
> >> ...
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
> > find
> > the right words. ;-)
> >
> > Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
> > clear now.
> >
> > Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>  I've edited both webpages again:
> 
>  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
>  http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html
> 
>  When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
> 
> >>>
> >>> On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:
> >>>
> >>> I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
> >>> OpenOffice.org" button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The
> >>
> >>
> >> I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
> >> infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
> >> pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).
> >>
> >>> icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
> >>> does nothing. The other boxes work fine.
> >>
> >>
> >> In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
> >> default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work.
> :-(
> >
> >
> > oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css
> >
>
>
> I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a  and not
> have a box at all.  Boxes seem to lead the user to click.  It looks
> like a button.  So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box.
>
> >
> >>
> >>> Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?
> >>
> >>
> >> I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
> >> should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.
> >
> >
> > OK, so how DO we want this linked in?
> >
> > Right now, we have --
> >
> >
> > Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
> packs
> > | Release Notes | MD5 checksums
> >
> > in the light green DL button options section on:
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
> >
> > the test DL page.
> >
> > Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu
> someplace...
> >
> > ( and I just

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 05/04/2012 12:26 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:



On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:


On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:


Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:



Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:



Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):



Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:





https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks






Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.




I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.




Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
text
"green button" but there is no green "button".

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
"legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
visit
theApache OpenOffice download  webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...




Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
clear now.

Marcus




I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.



On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:

I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
OpenOffice.org" button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The



I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).


icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
does nothing. The other boxes work fine.



In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-(



oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css




I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a  and not
have a box at all.  Boxes seem to lead the user to click.  It looks
like a button.  So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box.


Could be another way to do it. In any case I don't want to loose the red 
color as it shows the user that this text is important.



Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?



I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.



OK, so how DO we want this linked in?

Right now, we have --


Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language packs
| Release Notes | MD5 checksums

in the light green DL button options section on:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html

the test DL page.

Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu someplace...

( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!)



Oh, it looks much nicer now that the alerts are gone!

One idea to support the legacy links:

Right now we have three simple links under the top button:

"Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums"

What if we shortened the first link, and added another one, like this:

Other Platforms and Languages | Older Versions | Release Notes |
Signatures and Hashes


Choices:

1) Integrate into the sub-green box as another link.

2) Put as separate link into the nav bar on the right hand side.

Other suggestions?

But +1 for "Signatures and Hashes" as it is now indeed more than just 
MD5 sums.


Marcus


(note in this version I've changed "MD5 checksum" to "Signatures and
Hashes" since the Apache releases come with 2 differnt hashes as well
as a detached signature.   And that reminds me we'll need a page
for that.

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 05/04/2012 12:12 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:



On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)
wrote:

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:


Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:


Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:



https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks







Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded
download
logic on the various NL pages.



I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.



Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
text
"green button" but there is no green "button".

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
"legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
visit
theApache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public
License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...



Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
clear now.

Marcus



I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.



On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:

I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
OpenOffice.org" button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The


I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).


icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
does nothing. The other boxes work fine.


In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-(


oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css


Yes, maybe someone else can enlighten me?


Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?


I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.


OK, so how DO we want this linked in?

Right now, we have --


Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums

in the light green DL button options section on:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html

the test DL page.

Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu someplace...


I would +1 to put it in the nav bar on the right hand side. An own sub 
headline is fine, too.


Marcus


( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!)




The other.html page looks and works fine.





Good work!


Thanks

Marcus

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>
>
> On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>> Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

 Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

> Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>>
>>
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


 Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
> would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
> volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.
>
> Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
> logic on the various NL pages.



 I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good idea to start.
>>
>>>
>>> The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
>>>
>>
>> The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
>> text
>> "green button" but there is no green "button".
>>
>> The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
>>
>> The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
>> "legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
>>
>> Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
>> from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
>>
>> I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
>>
>> Legacy OpenOffice.org
>>
>> If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
>> visit
>> theApache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
>> archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
>> it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
>> other
>> and better choice.
>> OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
>> v3 (LGPL v3)
>>
>> Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
>>
>> ...
>
>
>
> Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
> find
> the right words. ;-)
>
> Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
> clear now.
>
> Marcus



 I've edited both webpages again:

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

 When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

>>>
>>> On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:
>>>
>>> I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
>>> OpenOffice.org" button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The
>>
>>
>> I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
>> infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
>> pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).
>>
>>> icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
>>> does nothing. The other boxes work fine.
>>
>>
>> In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
>> default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-(
>
>
> oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css
>


I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a  and not
have a box at all.  Boxes seem to lead the user to click.  It looks
like a button.  So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box.

>
>>
>>> Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?
>>
>>
>> I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
>> should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.
>
>
> OK, so how DO we want this linked in?
>
> Right now, we have --
>
>
> Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language packs
> | Release Notes | MD5 checksums
>
> in the light green DL button options section on:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
>
> the test DL page.
>
> Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu someplace...
>
> ( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!)
>

Oh, it looks much nicer now that the alerts are gone!

One idea to support the legacy links:

Right now we have three simple links under the top button:

"Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums"

What if we shortened the first link, and added an

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Kay Schenk]

On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:


Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:


Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:



https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks






Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.



I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.



Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is
text
"green button" but there is no green "button".

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
"legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
visit
theApache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no
other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...



Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to
find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
clear now.

Marcus



I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.



On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:

I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
OpenOffice.org" button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The


I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).


icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
does nothing. The other boxes work fine.


In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-(


oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css




Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?


I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.


OK, so how DO we want this linked in?

Right now, we have --


Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language 
packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums


in the light green DL button options section on:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html

the test DL page.

Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu someplace...

( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!)




The other.html page looks and works fine.





Good work!


Thanks

Marcus



--

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:


Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:


Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):


Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:



https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks





Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.



I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.



Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
"green button" but there is no green "button".

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
"legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
theApache OpenOffice download  webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...



Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now.

Marcus



I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.



On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:

  I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
OpenOffice.org" button.  But nothing does.  WinXP/Firefox 12.0.  The


I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the 
infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow 
pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).



icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
does nothing.  The other boxes work fine.


In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to 
default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-(



Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?


I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar 
should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.



The other.html page looks and works fine.

Good work!


Thanks

Marcus

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks






Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.


I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.


Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
"green button" but there is no green "button".

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
"legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
the Apache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...


Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear
now.

Marcus


I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html


Users are likely do not really know about the difference between OOo and 
AOO. Therefore the wording "start downloading the most recent version" 
might be misleading. You mean the most recent version of OOo, but the 
user might think, the most recent version in general.


Which version number the user is going to download, is said in the 
heading. So the additional information about language and OS is 
sufficient here. If many versions of a procuct are provided, the user 
expects to get the most recent one when using default settings.


Suggestions
(1) Add "legacy"
 "Click to start downloading the most recent legacy version for Windows 
and German."

(2) or skip it totally
"Click to start downloading the legacy version for Windows and German.
(3) or repeat the version string from the heading
"Click to start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0 for Windows and German."

I have played a little bit around with Opera. It seems, that it 
struggles about the variables VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA. I assume that 
they are global and not present in this staging version. Hopefully Opera 
shows the green part too, when the page is produced.


The orange disclaimer has anchor elements without target href. That 
produces the hand-cursor in the browser, which indicates, that there is 
a hyperlink. But here is no hyperlink and nothing happens, when 
clicking. Therefore it it confusing. Please remove the anchor markup.


Kind regards
Regina


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

Feature idea - prompt users to fill user information meta data

[drew]

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 23:13 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
> 2012/5/3 drew :
> > On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
> >> 2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti :
> >> > On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
> >> >> OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey
> >> > (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for
> >> > registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.
> >> >
> >> > You can get an idea of the survey at
> >> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >  Andrea.
> >>
> >> It was also used to register the user "with him/herself": The
> >> registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools →
> >> Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that
> >> info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for
> >> example that documents will always open on the first page and not on
> >> the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document
> >> author.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >
> > Hi Ricardo
> >
> > That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the
> > loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information.
> >
> > I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the
> > description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement.
> >
> > Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a
> > (strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user
> > enter that information.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > //drew
> >
> >
> 
> Instead of asking for this on install time, I think we need to define
> a "first run wizard" or something like that. It could be a simple
> document that opens on first run with a "thanks for using this
> program" message and a couple of buttons to perform some basic
> customizations, like adding the user info. I'm too short of sleep
> today to build a good feature request, but I'll try to think on
> something during the weekend. Ideas are welcomed ;)
> 
> Regards

Howdy Ricardo

Wonderful - I changed the subject (as you see).

I was thinking also, prompted from another email just now that pointed
to a 3.4.1 feature request page, that there is a 4.0 feature request
page on the cwiki also.. per change that is an even better vector to
start with.

Catch you later,

//drew

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 05/03/2012 11:25 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:


On May 3, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks





Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.


I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.


Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
"green button" but there is no green "button".

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
"legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
theApache OpenOffice download  webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...


Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now.

Marcus


I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html


I have only one criticism.

The phrase: "OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License 
v3 (LGPL v3)" appears twice on the same button.


Really the same? For me it's a) in the bigger one and b) in the first 
small one. But maybe doesn't matter.


In a) I wanted to explain what the lisence is and in b) to refer to the 
full text.


However, as Pedro wanted to remove all pre-ALv2 lisencing text from 
"http://www.openoffice.org/license.html"; I will link directly to the 
text from GNU.org and name the link different.



Otherwise great!


Thanks

Marcus


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

Thanks

Marcus

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>
>> Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>>>
>>> Hi Marcus,
>>>
>>> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

 Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>
> Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
>> would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
>> volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.
>>
>> Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
>> logic on the various NL pages.
>
>
> I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.
>>>
>>>
>>> Good idea to start.
>>>

 The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html

>>>
>>> The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
>>> "green button" but there is no green "button".
>>>
>>> The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
>>>
>>> The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
>>> "legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
>>>
>>> Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
>>> from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
>>>
>>> I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
>>>
>>> Legacy OpenOffice.org
>>>
>>> If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
>>> the Apache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
>>> archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
>>> it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
>>> and better choice.
>>> OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
>>> v3 (LGPL v3)
>>>
>>> Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
>>>
>>> ...
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
>> the right words. ;-)
>>
>> Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now.
>>
>> Marcus
>
>
> I've edited both webpages again:
>
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html
>
> When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
>

On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:

 I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
OpenOffice.org" button.  But nothing does.  WinXP/Firefox 12.0.  The
icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
does nothing.  The other boxes work fine.

Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?

The other.html page looks and works fine.

Good work!

-Rob

> Thanks
>
> Marcus

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Dave Fisher]

On May 3, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>> Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>>> Hi Marcus,
>>> 
>>> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
 Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
>> would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
>> volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.
>> 
>> Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
>> logic on the various NL pages.
> 
> I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.
>>> 
>>> Good idea to start.
>>> 
 
 The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
 
>>> 
>>> The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
>>> "green button" but there is no green "button".
>>> 
>>> The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
>>> 
>>> The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
>>> "legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
>>> 
>>> Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
>>> from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
>>> 
>>> I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
>>> 
>>> Legacy OpenOffice.org
>>> 
>>> If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
>>> the Apache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
>>> archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
>>> it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
>>> and better choice.
>>> OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
>>> v3 (LGPL v3)
>>> 
>>> Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
>>> 
>>> ...
>> 
>> Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
>> the right words. ;-)
>> 
>> Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now.
>> 
>> Marcus
> 
> I've edited both webpages again:
> 
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html

I have only one criticism.

The phrase: "OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public 
License v3 (LGPL v3)" appears twice on the same button.

Otherwise great!

Regards,
Dave

> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html
> 
> When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

[drew]

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:29 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote:
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest wrote:
> 
> > Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto <
> > biasut...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> >  2012/5/2 Wolf Halton
> >>
> >>  Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right
> >>> now.
> >>> Should be interesting.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good!
> >>
> >> How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
> >>
> >
> > No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded
> > the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no
> > need of the --force-all option.
> >
> > The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the
> > LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me).
> >
> > Hagar
> >
> 
> I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple very-similar
> office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with.
> :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio
> 12.04
> 

Right - well, Hagar is referring not to the application icons, having
multiple installs (including as it has been for a long time, both the
distro version of OO.o and the vanilla version) - it's the file
association icons. Installing the vanilla packages doesn't update the
system settings for the file association.

That's more a question IMO about how we would want the files in the PPA
to install - as the current vanilla deb packages do, my first vote would
be for this. Though I would be in favor of offering an option to change
the file type (mime type) associations, ala Windows install.

//drew

Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[RGB ES]

2012/5/3 drew :
> On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
>> 2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti :
>> > On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
>> >>
>> >> One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
>> >> OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?
>> >
>> >
>> > If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey
>> > (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for
>> > registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.
>> >
>> > You can get an idea of the survey at
>> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >  Andrea.
>>
>> It was also used to register the user "with him/herself": The
>> registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools →
>> Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that
>> info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for
>> example that documents will always open on the first page and not on
>> the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document
>> author.
>>
>> Regards
>
> Hi Ricardo
>
> That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the
> loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information.
>
> I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the
> description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement.
>
> Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a
> (strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user
> enter that information.
>
> What do you think?
>
> //drew
>
>

Instead of asking for this on install time, I think we need to define
a "first run wizard" or something like that. It could be a simple
document that opens on first run with a "thanks for using this
program" message and a couple of buttons to perform some basic
customizations, like adding the user info. I'm too short of sleep
today to build a good feature request, but I'll try to think on
something during the weekend. Ideas are welcomed ;)

Regards
Ricardo

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Marcus,

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks





Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It
would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a
volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks.

Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download
logic on the various NL pages.


I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links.


Good idea to start.



The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html



The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text
"green button" but there is no green "button".

The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?

The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the
"legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.

Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html,
from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.

I suggest to use the orange part as information box.

Legacy OpenOffice.org

If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit
the Apache OpenOffice download webpage. Please note that
archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So,
it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other
and better choice.
OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License
v3 (LGPL v3)

Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0

...


Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find
the right words. ;-)

Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now.

Marcus


I've edited both webpages again:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html

When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.

Thanks

Marcus

Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[drew]

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote:
> 2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti :
> > On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
> >>
> >> One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
> >> OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?
> >
> >
> > If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey
> > (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for
> > registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.
> >
> > You can get an idea of the survey at
> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey
> >
> > Regards,
> >  Andrea.
> 
> It was also used to register the user "with him/herself": The
> registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools →
> Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that
> info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for
> example that documents will always open on the first page and not on
> the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document
> author.
> 
> Regards

Hi Ricardo

That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the
loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information. 

I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the
description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement. 

Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a
(strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user
enter that information.

What do you think?

//drew

Re: Getting Started with AOO book

[Guy Waterval]

Hi Jean,

2012/5/2 Jean Weber 

>
> Over the years I've done quite a bit of that type of recruitment. My
> experience is that such efforts mostly bring forth a collection of
> wannabe writers who waste enormous amounts of my time and produce
> nothing useful, and reviewers who nitpick but don't notice actual
> errors in content. The few productive members of the ODFAuthors team
> appear to have come on their own, and those few make great
> contributions.
>
> For the various reasons mentioned above, I personally am not motivated
> to do any of the sort of recruitment you suggest at this time. If
> someone else wants to do so, that's fine.
>

I can understand your reticence with a too big campaign of recrutement. The
"Take all what you find, put all the business in a pot, add a liter ketchup
and mix" is a modern method of management but certainly not a good one.;-)
But you haven't to be demotivated, because with a few people you have
produced, without noise, an useful and concret work. Thus,  you haven't to
assume all the job here, this project has also to take its
responsabilities, but your experience has a high value here where all has
to be started.

A+
-- 
gw

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

[Kay Schenk]

On 04/30/2012 08:30 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

Kay- I've setup a new script for you to use for
Openoffice downloads from Apache mirrors- simply
replace "closer.cgi" with "aoo-closer.cgi" in your
paths.� Please don't forget this or users could
be directed to mirrors which have opted out of
carrying AOO releases.




OK, Joe -- I just tested this out as well, and all good!

Thanks so much!





From: Kay Schenk
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably 
correction

Regina--

Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschelwrote:


Hi,

my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.

kind regards
Regina

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:

� Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:





On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:


On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk
wrote:




On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

� On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti


wrote:

� Kay Schenk wrote:




Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new
/download/index.html page at:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html






Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I
wanted
you to see, but will of course go away in production.




The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.

We have another thread
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**
ooo.devel/16219





where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates
(i.e.,
downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the "Look for updates"
function)


� That's what I understand as well.




oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as
well
-- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using
SourceForge for that though.



� The "possibly Apache" in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't

understood


yet
what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute
only
sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will
release
sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put
binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).



� Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the

security
patch info page...

http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html







and you can see what the link looks like.

Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/

**>



This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems.
Right now, the SF setup is more "user friendly" in my opinion. I
thought we
were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a
dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100%
someplace
else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.

The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may
be one
place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace
else with
an entirely different look and feel.



� Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,

mainly to
be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in
that
thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.


� So how about something very simple:


1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
/download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today.



This WOULD make things a lot simpler.


� But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:


a) Hashes and detached signatures
b) source distribution
c) a link to the full release tree



Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for
openoffice.org they have, right?

Anyway, good conversation.


� In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal

users will download from SF.

2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF. Maybe MirrorBrain.
Maybe a mix,

On the other side, r

Re: [RELEASE]: proposed directory structure on dist

[Roberto Galoppini]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>
>
> On 05/02/2012 09:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/02/2012 03:04 AM, J�rgen Schmidt wrote:

 Hi,

 to sum up this longer thread and the structure how I will upload the
 bits

 Source release reflecting a future directory structure already:

 .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2
 .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz
 .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip
 .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/...

 Binary releases keeping the old structure:
 .../incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ar/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/cs/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/de/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-BG/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/fr/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/gl/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/hu/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ja/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/nl/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ru/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-CN/3.4.0/...
 .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-TW/3.4.0/...


 The directories will include all files (including the checksum files)
 for all platforms and the language packs. The SDK is available in en-US
 only and o only in ...files/stable

 Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again for keeping things as they were for the time being.
>>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  We've loaded the current files, please let us know when youupload more
>> files, so that we can update the rest in a timely manner.
>
>
> Roberto--
>
> Hi. Well my test index page worked well with my linux setup for client
> download -- i.e. from
>
> files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download
>
> so happy so far. :)

Thanks for the feedback.

Roberto

>
>
>>
>> Please note that the 3.4.0 folder is "staged" on sourceforge, which means
>> that directly links to files in it will work, but visitors
>> browsing the files will not see them.
>>
>> By the way, is someone coordinating with MirrorBrain maintainers to manage
>> updates to serve the "Look for updates" function?
>>
>> Roberto
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 
>>> MzK
>>>
>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>>>  And life has a funny way of helping you out
>>>  Helping you out."
>>>                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>>>
>>
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>  And life has a funny way of helping you out
>  Helping you out."
>                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

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Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 05/03/2012 09:48 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:



On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:



On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For
example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
list?


I don't recall the registration doing this...



If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our
opportunity to engage with our users.

I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
"I want to stay informed about OpenOffice"? That could go to a page
where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
It would take the place of the old registration system.

-Rob


I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.



If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar
size and color palette as the others. But an icon of what?



well...maybe one of more "artistic" members could weigh in on this
one... I don't have any ideas...


I think that a blackboard or megaphone could fit as icon. Some examples 
(don't look to close to content and size)


http://www.thegraphicmac.com/wp-content/uploads/aps_facebook-notify-icon.jpg

http://www.trueswitch.com/images/notify_icon_big.gif

http://ranchero.com/images/nnw3.2AppIcon-512.png

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/snake3d/snake3d/snake3d00038/11270762-megaphone-sale-announcement-loudspeaker-news-communication-icon-golden-red-bullhorn-message-symbol-a.jpg

Marcus

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

[Wolf Halton]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest wrote:

> Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto <
> biasut...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>  2012/5/2 Wolf Halton
>>
>>  Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right
>>> now.
>>> Should be interesting.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Good!
>>
>> How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb
>>
>
> No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded
> the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no
> need of the --force-all option.
>
> The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the
> LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me).
>
> Hagar
>

I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple very-similar
office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with.
:-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio
12.04

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Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[RGB ES]

2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti :
> On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
>> OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?
>
>
> If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey
> (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for
> registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.
>
> You can get an idea of the survey at
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey
>
> Regards,
>  Andrea.

It was also used to register the user "with him/herself": The
registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools →
Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that
info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for
example that documents will always open on the first page and not on
the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document
author.

Regards
Ricardo

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 05/03/2012 09:57 PM, schrieb Andreas Säger:

Am 03.05.2012 04:49, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

Congratulations to all and thanks to Juergen, too. But the words are
not enough; what is, is use.



+1

Unfortunately, we can not use AOO in our productive environment because
of this silly bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118977
Many of our every day documents are input forms. Most of the forms are
unusable in page layout.


I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE]: proposed directory structure on dist

[Kay Schenk]

On 05/02/2012 09:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Kay Schenk  wrote:




On 05/02/2012 03:04 AM, J�rgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

to sum up this longer thread and the structure how I will upload the bits

Source release reflecting a future directory structure already:

.../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2
.../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz
.../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip
.../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/...

Binary releases keeping the old structure:
.../incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ar/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/cs/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/de/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-BG/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/fr/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/gl/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/hu/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ja/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/nl/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ru/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-CN/3.4.0/...
.../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-TW/3.4.0/...


The directories will include all files (including the checksum files)
for all platforms and the language packs. The SDK is available in en-US
only and o only in ...files/stable

Juergen


Thanks again for keeping things as they were for the time being.



Hi all,

  We've loaded the current files, please let us know when youupload more
files, so that we can update the rest in a timely manner.


Roberto--

Hi. Well my test index page worked well with my linux setup for client 
download -- i.e. from


files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download

so happy so far. :)



Please note that the 3.4.0 folder is "staged" on sourceforge, which means
that directly links to files in it will work, but visitors
browsing the files will not see them.

By the way, is someone coordinating with MirrorBrain maintainers to manage
updates to serve the "Look for updates" function?

Roberto






--

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette





--

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?


If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user 
survey (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), 
for registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle.


You can get an idea of the survey at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

[Hagar Delest]

Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto  a 
écrit :

2012/5/2 Wolf Halton


Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now.
Should be interesting.



Good!

How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb


No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded the 
tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no need of the 
--force-all option.

The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the LibO 
icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me).

Hagar

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

[Andreas Säger]

Am 03.05.2012 04:49, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

Congratulations to all and thanks to Juergen, too. But the words are
not enough; what is, is use.



+1

Unfortunately, we can not use AOO in our productive environment because 
of this silly bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118977
Many of our every day documents are input forms. Most of the forms are 
unusable in page layout.

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1

[Kay Schenk]

On 05/03/2012 01:27 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

Here is the correct link

http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg


nice to see he gets out to have some fun every once in a while! :)

--

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[Kay Schenk]

On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:



On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
list?


I don't recall the registration doing this...



If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
opportunity to engage with our users.

I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
"I want to stay informed about OpenOffice"?  That could go to a page
where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
  It would take the place of the old registration system.

-Rob


I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.



If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar
size and color palette as the others.  But an icon of what?



well...maybe one of more "artistic" members could weigh in on this 
one... I don't have any ideas...




-Rob


--

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette


--

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>
>
> On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
>> OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
>> example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
>> list?
>
> I don't recall the registration doing this...
>
>>
>> If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
>> that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
>> opportunity to engage with our users.
>>
>> I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
>> "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice"?  That could go to a page
>> where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
>>  It would take the place of the old registration system.
>>
>> -Rob
>
> I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
> or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.
>

If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar
size and color palette as the others.  But an icon of what?

-Rob

> --
> 
> MzK
>
> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>  And life has a funny way of helping you out
>  Helping you out."
>                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[Wolf Halton]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

>
>
> On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
> > OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
> > example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
> > list?
>
> I don't recall the registration doing this...
>
> >
> > If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
> > that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
> > opportunity to engage with our users.
> >
> > I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
> > "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice"?  That could go to a page
> > where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
> >  It would take the place of the old registration system.
> >
> > -Rob
>
> I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
> or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>  And life has a funny way of helping you out
>  Helping you out."
>-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>

This is a good idea. Do you think the idea of a newsletter format on
announce@ that went out monthly has any appeal?

-Wolf

-- 
This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com
Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org

Re: "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[Kay Schenk]

On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
> OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
> example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
> list?

I don't recall the registration doing this...

> 
> If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
> that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
> opportunity to engage with our users.
> 
> I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
> "I want to stay informed about OpenOffice"?  That could go to a page
> where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
>  It would take the place of the old registration system.
> 
> -Rob

I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item,
or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option.

-- 

MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

"I want to stay informed about OpenOffice" option for the home page?

[Rob Weir]

One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from
OpenOffice.org.   Does anyone recall what that used to do?  For
example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing
list?

If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say
that they want to get occasional updates from us.  This reduces our
opportunity to engage with our users.

I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option:
"I want to stay informed about OpenOffice"?  That could go to a page
where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc.
 It would take the place of the old registration system.

-Rob

Re: Apache branded presentation template?

[Guy Waterval]

Hi all,

2012/5/3 Louis Suárez-Potts 

> Hi,
> On 2012-05-03, at 11:09 , Shane Curcuru wrote:
>
> > We do not have an "official" Apache or project-related presentation
> template currently.  Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic
> may be available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page:
> >
> >  http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html
> >
> > If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put
> it up there as well.
> >
> > - Shane
> >
> > On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we
> >> share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache
> >> OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about
> >> AOO at any kind of events.
> >>
> >> Anybody interested in designing one?
>
> I'm lousy at design, but I do think we *need* this, as I, for one, do give
> plenty of presentations around the world and from time to time would find
> it beneficial to use a PPMC approved template. (Normally, I speak on
> community strategy, and represent my consultancy, Age of Peers, so it's not
> an urgent issue for me--but…)
>

We also need a professional  template to begin a documentation under Apache
licence. Could a professional tech writer provide that, from IBM or another
company?

A+
-- 
gw


>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Official Facebook Fan Page for AOO

[Donald Harbison]

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> I think we should have an official Facebook "fan page" in time for the
> release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.  I think this is critical, since the
> average end user does not subscribe to mailing lists, or even use
> Google+ or Twitter.  But almost every user, current and potential,
> does use Facebook.  So it is our best opportunity for engaging with
> users.
>
> Here is the proposed page: http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO
>
> I need your help in managing and running this page.   I'm offering to
> hand total control of this page over to the PPMC.  If anyone (from the
> PPMC) wants to be co-admin on this account, please send me an email
> address associated with your Facebook account.   You can send this to
> me via private email if you prefer.
>
> So, is anyone willing to help?
>

Sure, sign me up.
dpharbi...@facebook.com


>
> Also, if you are not a PPMC member, but would still like to help, this
> is very welcome as well, from all volunteers:
>
> 1) "Like" the page
>
> 2) Share the page with your friends
>
> 3) If you find interesting stories or tips related to OpenOffice, post
> them on our Wall
>
> 4) If you have interesting photos or stories of the history of
> OpenOffice, add them to our Timeline
>
> 5) Visit the page regularly and add comments to posts, and generally
> help with any user questions.
>
> With this page, we'll have a good set of social media accounts ready
> for the AOO 3.4 launch, including Google+, Twitter, Identi.ca and
> Xing, a Facebook group (which is different than a FB fan page), as
> well as a Brazilian Twitter and Indenti.ca account.
>
> Note that with Facebook every page admin is equal and even has the
> ability to remove other admins, including removing me.  So I have
> absolutely no exclusive special privileges.   I'm reserving nothing.
> I'm giving the page over entirely to the PPMC.
>
> Finally, please know that I've made every effort to get the existing
> OpenOffice.org FB page made available for our use.  I've asked
> repeatedly [1][2] for this, as well as provided detailed technical
> steps [3] needed to make this transition.  I think it was worth the
> effort to try to make that work, but sadly, this has failed to occur.
>  However, we still have enough time (barely) to have a new page ready
> for the AOO 3.4 launch, and to promote this page and turn it into
> another way in which we can engage with our users in the future.So
> I hope I have your support.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119297
> [2] http://markmail.org/message/27wxv4h2mwpahyel
> [3] http://markmail.org/message/p5z5o2g74qe6rl6j
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>

Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?

[Wolf Halton]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> We can of course create a further link aoo, aooffice, apacheoo or
>> apacheopenoffice. But I would like to keep soffice as well because it
>> is used in many places.
>>
>
> It would definitely make sense to continue using soffice. And, unless it
> gets political (and I hope it won't), Ubuntu could modify its packaging.
>
> If another name is needed in addition to soffice, then the best option
> would probably be ooffice, which is already in use with, e.g., the Red Hat
> packaging of 3.3. No need to add "a" or "apache" as a prefix: Apache
> Subversion uses "svn", not "asvn"; and the same for Tomcat and other Apache
> software.
>
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
>

It is nice to know ooffice is already in production use.
I was thinking that the install script (in the Ubuntu installs) could have
a case structure that checks for existing /usr/bin soft links, for instance:
if soffice exists  # Means openOffice, LibreOffice or StarOffice may be
installed
follow the link to get the app and version
echo to dialog   "You appear to have %Existing_App% installed,
 if you would like to keep %Existing_App% and
install %Current_AOO_Product% beside it,
click %Button_1% [default unattended install behaviour].
If you would like to replace %Existing_App%
with %Current_AOO_Product%
click %Button_2% and if you would like to abort the installation
 and make no changes to your computer, click %Button_3%.
end_if
if ooffice exists # - Means OpenOffice is installed
follow the link to get the app and version
echo to dialog that software  "You appear to have %Existing_App%
installed,
if you would like to keep %Existing_App% and
install %Current_AOO_Product% beside it, click %Button_1%.
If you would like to replace %Existing_App% with %Current_AOO_Product%
click %Button_2% [default action for unattended install] and if you
would
like to abort the installation and make no changes to your computer,
click %Button_3%.
end_if

This would work regardless of which Linux you are installing into.and offer
an option that was never available before.  It would also mean that the
Distribution packagers would not have to change very much to add AOO back
into their software repositories.  We always play well with others. :-)

Wolf


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Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org

Re: Apache branded presentation template?

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

Hi,
On 2012-05-03, at 11:09 , Shane Curcuru wrote:

> We do not have an "official" Apache or project-related presentation template 
> currently.  Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic may be 
> available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page:
> 
>  http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html
> 
> If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put it up 
> there as well.
> 
> - Shane
> 
> On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we
>> share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache
>> OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about
>> AOO at any kind of events.
>> 
>> Anybody interested in designing one?

I'm lousy at design, but I do think we *need* this, as I, for one, do give 
plenty of presentations around the world and from time to time would find it 
beneficial to use a PPMC approved template. (Normally, I speak on community 
strategy, and represent my consultancy, Age of Peers, so it's not an urgent 
issue for me--but…)

Louis
>> 
>> Juergen

Re: Apache branded presentation template?

[Ross Gardler]

On 3 May 2012 16:09, Shane Curcuru  wrote:
> We do not have an "official" Apache or project-related presentation template
> currently.  Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic may be
> available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page:
>
>  http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html

You probably already know about
http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ it contains official
images etc.

Ross

>
> If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put it up
> there as well.
>
> - Shane
>
>
> On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we
>> share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache
>> OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about
>> AOO at any kind of events.
>>
>> Anybody interested in designing one?
>>
>> Juergen



-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

Re: Apache branded presentation template?

[Shane Curcuru]

We do not have an "official" Apache or project-related presentation 
template currently.  Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic 
may be available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page:


  http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html

If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put 
it up there as well.


- Shane

On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we
share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache
OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about
AOO at any kind of events.

Anybody interested in designing one?

Juergen

Re: [Rendering] Trying to render text page to a bitmap

[Fernand Vanrie]

Erik ,
With BASIC it can been done
have a look at this thread 



hope it helps

Fernand

Hi, I'm trying to render a page to a bitmap and I don't get it working. 
Drawing primitives works but not render a document. Do anyone know how 
to do this? Here is my code: public static BufferedImage makeThumb(File 
inFile) throws IOException, BootstrapException, 
IllegalArgumentException, Exception, java.io.IOException { 
XComponentLoader xCompLoader = 
OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXComponentLoader(); PropertyValue[] 
loadProps = new PropertyValue[2]; loadProps[0] = 
OfficeTools.makeProperty("ReadOnly", Boolean.TRUE); loadProps[1] = 
OfficeTools.makeProperty("Hidden", Boolean.TRUE); XComponent xDoc = 
xCompLoader.loadComponentFromURL(OfficeTools.makeOpenOfficeUrl(inFile.getAbsolutePath()), 
"_blank", 0, loadProps); XRenderable xRender = 
(XRenderable)UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XRenderable.class, xDoc); if 
(xRender != null) { System.out.println("Is Renderable"); XDevice xDevice 
= 
OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXToolkit().createScreenCompatibleDevice(1024, 
1024); PropertyValue[] renderProps = new PropertyValue[2]; 
renderProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty("RenderDevive", xDevice); 
renderProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty("PageRange", "1"); 
xRender.render(0, xDoc, renderProps); XBitmap xBitmap = 
xDevice.createBitmap(0, 0, 1024, 1024); if (xBitmap != null) return 
ImageIO.read(new ByteArrayInputStream(xBitmap.getDIB())); else 
System.out.println("No bitmap created!"); } else { 
System.out.println("Not Renderable"); } return null; } Thanks in 
advance, Erik Wigforss

Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
>> password?
>
>
> Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:
>  --
> Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker
> must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset
> your password, click on the "Forgot Password" link in the header or footer.
>
> [so far, instruction still apply]
>
> Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was "myuser",
> then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be
> "myu...@openoffice.org" and e-mail to this address will redirect to the
> e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account
> pre-migration to the ASF.
>
> [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address -
> the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported
> that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months
> ago]

OK.  I updated the text:   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/

Is that correct?  Is there a clearer way to state this?

-Rob

>  --
> Regards,
>  Andrea.

Apache Barcamp in Washington DC

[drew jensen]

Hi,

Referencing this coming event
http://events.apache.org/event/2012/barcamp-dc/venue.html

Anyone here planning on attending?

I am thinking of doing so and thought I'd ask about any others also.

Thanks,

//drew

[solved] Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[eric b]

Hi Rob,

Le 3 mai 12 à 13:44, Rob Weir a écrit :

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:36 PM, eric b  
 wrote:

Hi,

Well, I can't login since a long while, and nobody solved my problem.



Hi Eric,

Sorry, I may have missed your issue originally.



No problem, we all receive a lot of mails on this list.



What is your problem?



I was simply using the wrong email  (thanks to Andrea !!)



 Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?


Exactly



  Did you try resetting your password?




Was not working, for the reason above. This is solved now (uff !)


Regards,
Eric

--
qɔᴉɹə
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

[Solved] Re: how to access aoo issue website?

[eric b]

Hi,

Le 3 mai 12 à 13:56, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :


Rob Weir wrote:

Are you not able to login to Bugzilla?  Did you try resetting your
password?


Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions:



Ahhh  that's why I was not able to reset the password !! Thanks a  
lot, it was that !



Solved !!  Thanks a lot Andrea :-)


Fantastic, I'll be able to continue to work on the Writer feature  
with BZ



Regards,
Eric

--
qɔᴉɹə
Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page
L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org
Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news

[Rendering] Trying to render text page to a bitmap

[Erik Wigforss]

Hi,

I'm trying to render a page to a bitmap and I don't get it working. Drawing
primitives works but not render a document.
Do anyone know how to do this?

Here is my code:

  public static BufferedImage makeThumb(File inFile) throws IOException,
BootstrapException, IllegalArgumentException, Exception,
java.io.IOException {
XComponentLoader xCompLoader =
OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXComponentLoader();
PropertyValue[] loadProps = new PropertyValue[2];
loadProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty("ReadOnly", Boolean.TRUE);
loadProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty("Hidden", Boolean.TRUE);
XComponent xDoc =
xCompLoader.loadComponentFromURL(OfficeTools.makeOpenOfficeUrl(inFile.getAbsolutePath()),
"_blank", 0, loadProps);
XRenderable xRender =
(XRenderable)UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XRenderable.class, xDoc);
if (xRender != null) {
  System.out.println("Is Renderable");
  XDevice xDevice =
OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXToolkit().createScreenCompatibleDevice(1024,
1024);
  PropertyValue[] renderProps = new PropertyValue[2];
  renderProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty("RenderDevive", xDevice);
  renderProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty("PageRange", "1");
  xRender.render(0, xDoc, renderProps);
  XBitmap xBitmap = xDevice.createBitmap(0, 0, 1024, 1024);
  if (xBitmap != null)
return ImageIO.read(new ByteArrayInputStream(xBitmap.getDIB()));
  else
System.out.println("No bitmap created!");
} else {
  System.out.println("Not Renderable");
}
return null;
  }

Thanks in advance,

Erik Wigforss

Re: "Google Docs Boasts 450 New Fonts and 60 New Templates"

[drew]

On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 08:10 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57426699-93/google-docs-boasts-450-new-fonts-and-60-new-templates/
> 
> Is there any easy way to tell how many templates we have in our
> template repository?  

1,105

> It might make sense to mention the templates and
> extensions repositories in our AOO 3.4 announcement, since that is a
> statement on the scope of the larger ecosystem.  Someone who
> contributes a template or writes an extension is a contributor to the
> overall OpenOffice effort.


> 
> -Rob
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