RE: pdf E-books
It isn't a problem, it is how reading PDF files in Adobe Reader has always worked. If you want the visual page to coincide with what you are hearing, you need to switch to read only visible pages and use control-page up and control-page down. In Adobe Reader; Control-k for preferences, Press R in the tree until you get to reading. Tab 3 times and use your arrow keys to make the selection. When you are reading the entire document and you press page up and down you are moving the browse mode pointer 24 lines in the browse mode buffer. No visual synchronizing is taking place. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 5:16 PM To: Paulette Vickery paule...@evickery.com; talk viaGW t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Re: pdf E-books Yes. I’m using WE 9.2. From: Paulette Vickery Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:51 PM To: 'Tom Fairhurst' Subject: RE: pdf E-books Thanks for the information. Is this problem also true in WE 9.2? I have it, but I am afraid to install it. Paulette From: Tom Fairhurst [mailto:tfairhu...@kc.rr.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:54 AM To: paule...@evickery.com; talk viaGW Subject: pdf E-books In addition to what I said earlier, when I have the entire document displayed, the PageUp and PageDown keys move the display up and down 24 lines. No matter where I am in the displayed document, the page number doesn’t change. e.g., whether I’m on line 8000 or line 30. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: sielencing window-eyes
hi, the keystroke to bring help menu is alt+h. press control+backslash to bring out window eyes control panel, and press alt+h to finally bring help menu of window eyes. to quickly silence speech press control key. regards, amit On 8/29/2015 9:18 AM, William Detherage via Talk wrote: Hello, I was wondering what the key combination is to silence window-eyes? Also, what is the key combination to bring up the help minue? Thanks in advance, Billl Deatherage ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/aggarwal.amit444%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: List Problems
The irony is, that all the people complaining about being bounced are able to tell us on the list that they have been bounced, thus being able to post on the list. That is why I don't consider this problem to be a priority. On 8/28/2015 10:33 PM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote: Linda, Thank you. I agree with you on this one and I'm also getting sick of this. I had a problem and contacted AISquared and got the problem dealt with. I would suggest that others do the same. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.2 on HP Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 64-bit with Office 2013 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7 home premium 64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft Windows Defender onAcer netbook as well as Macaffee Live Safe on HP Pavilion. Support the Illinois Council of the Blind at our GoFundMe page: www.gofundme.com/icb2015. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
classic shell
Classic shell now has a version for windows 10. Anyone using it and if so how does it work with Win 10 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
Rick: From my recollection, the email in question allowed for a simple reply leaving the subject line in tact. This avoids the necessity to click on a link. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 5:57 AM To: 'Steve Jacobson'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions Hi Steve: First, For me clicking the Reinstate link in the e-mail telling me my account had been disable seemed to work. That said, it is risky to ever click on anything inside a e-mail message unless you are 100 percent sure who the sender was. Financial institutions include enough partial information in such a e-mail to ensure it is related to the actual sender and your account to avoid bad guys from spoofing, fishing or even trying to impart a virus on your machine in their name. After talking on list I was pretty sure the message was from AI Squared so did that after having tried to do it via the Website which I couldn't get to work - at least not quickly. Next,there is a process where the providers like Comcast, Brighthouse, Yahoo and most others will ping back any messages sent to them to see if it was sent from a valid, active, e-mail address and this, I think, is a part of the DKIM standards put in place and adopted since think around 2005. If a valid return is not received they will bounce back the message to your provider, usually also sending it through to the end point but sometimes flagging it as spam, sometimes not before it gets to the endpoint client. Your providers Mailman will get the postbacks, bounces, as a warning that there was a potential security issue with the message sent from your Mailman server and check the settings to see how to handle them. Unless setup to handle these bounces your providers Mailman will increment a counter depending on the bounceback level, hard or soft, for the person who tried to send the message through the providers Mailman server. If Mailman is configured to disable an account after a certain number of bounces your client will then be automatically disabled when that threshold has been reached. The bouncebacks your Mailman Provider is getting is thus likely due to the fact it is not setup to handle the ping backs, security tests, that the big providers use, gets their bounces even if they send the message through to the end user marked as spam, not marked as spam or the big provider might not even send it through but they all will generate a bounce back to your Mailman Provider if Mailman and your Host Provider are not setup properly. Of course, without having access to your providers hardware and software there is no way for me to either verify this nor fix it. This is what several folks have told me they have encountered in the past and others have told me the same thing and to look into the Domain thingy - I forget exactly what it is called but think the acronym was DKIM.This is not in my programming wheelhouse so I had to dig to find out what may be going on via the symptoms reported by everyone. It is a standard all the big e-mail host providers agreed to use from what I remember about that article I posted here much like the w3c standards or iso standards with a governing body and all that jazz. I know you are a pretty good programmer so take a look at things, Mailman Documentation and see what it says about bouncebacks and automatic removel of clients and settings, then read up on the DKIM thing, I will go find the actual name if you get stuck but the document was in one of my prior postings. If this is not the problem let me know so I wont be barking up the wrong tree. I wont get mad or hurt feelings, I just want to get the job done. Your fault, my fault, nobodys fault - just get it done is my philosophy. This may mean tweaking the software or even finding a new provider but many of us are on several other high traffic lists and don't have these problems. One other thing to look at not mentioned is that someone may have put your lists on a BlackList which some of the list providers look at - remember that hacker who didn't seem to like you guys? So you might peek at them to ensure your lists are not being black listed before stranggling your list provider. That's all I have unless there is anything I can look up or ask folks who actually know about this stuff, I don't know much myself but enough to ask questions that usually get answered by the folks I need to talk to. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit
Re: List Problems
Amen. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 05:34:18 -0700 via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: These people are tired of having to re subcribe multiple times. If you dojn't like to read posts about Bouncing then practise being Tollerant, and read the subject line, and just press the Delete key. How much effort does it take to press the Delete key? there are all kinds of messages on this list that I have no interest, and I just press the delete key. No big deal. -- Dave dlh...@centurylink.net ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/harpman9%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
Hi Steve: First, For me clicking the Reinstate link in the e-mail telling me my account had been disable seemed to work. That said, it is risky to ever click on anything inside a e-mail message unless you are 100 percent sure who the sender was. Financial institutions include enough partial information in such a e-mail to ensure it is related to the actual sender and your account to avoid bad guys from spoofing, fishing or even trying to impart a virus on your machine in their name. After talking on list I was pretty sure the message was from AI Squared so did that after having tried to do it via the Website which I couldn't get to work - at least not quickly. Next,there is a process where the providers like Comcast, Brighthouse, Yahoo and most others will ping back any messages sent to them to see if it was sent from a valid, active, e-mail address and this, I think, is a part of the DKIM standards put in place and adopted since think around 2005. If a valid return is not received they will bounce back the message to your provider, usually also sending it through to the end point but sometimes flagging it as spam, sometimes not before it gets to the endpoint client. Your providers Mailman will get the postbacks, bounces, as a warning that there was a potential security issue with the message sent from your Mailman server and check the settings to see how to handle them. Unless setup to handle these bounces your providers Mailman will increment a counter depending on the bounceback level, hard or soft, for the person who tried to send the message through the providers Mailman server. If Mailman is configured to disable an account after a certain number of bounces your client will then be automatically disabled when that threshold has been reached. The bouncebacks your Mailman Provider is getting is thus likely due to the fact it is not setup to handle the ping backs, security tests, that the big providers use, gets their bounces even if they send the message through to the end user marked as spam, not marked as spam or the big provider might not even send it through but they all will generate a bounce back to your Mailman Provider if Mailman and your Host Provider are not setup properly. Of course, without having access to your providers hardware and software there is no way for me to either verify this nor fix it. This is what several folks have told me they have encountered in the past and others have told me the same thing and to look into the Domain thingy - I forget exactly what it is called but think the acronym was DKIM.This is not in my programming wheelhouse so I had to dig to find out what may be going on via the symptoms reported by everyone. It is a standard all the big e-mail host providers agreed to use from what I remember about that article I posted here much like the w3c standards or iso standards with a governing body and all that jazz. I know you are a pretty good programmer so take a look at things, Mailman Documentation and see what it says about bouncebacks and automatic removel of clients and settings, then read up on the DKIM thing, I will go find the actual name if you get stuck but the document was in one of my prior postings. If this is not the problem let me know so I wont be barking up the wrong tree. I wont get mad or hurt feelings, I just want to get the job done. Your fault, my fault, nobodys fault - just get it done is my philosophy. This may mean tweaking the software or even finding a new provider but many of us are on several other high traffic lists and don't have these problems. One other thing to look at not mentioned is that someone may have put your lists on a BlackList which some of the list providers look at - remember that hacker who didn't seem to like you guys? So you might peek at them to ensure your lists are not being black listed before stranggling your list provider. That's all I have unless there is anything I can look up or ask folks who actually know about this stuff, I don't know much myself but enough to ask questions that usually get answered by the folks I need to talk to. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.
Hi Steve, responding to your initial analysis with some suggestions: Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to everyone. Have you checked the Mailman Log Files to ensure it isnt happening to everyone? If so what are the messages about why you were getting bounce backs - either you should have access to these logs or your list provider should supply them upon request. Also, perhaps certain messages may pass a security check based on where they are sent from originally and where the major network host checks for compliance. This is, of course, if such logs are produced by the Mailman software but I should guess logs are produced since this is a major piece of software. It is also the email server that receives email that is taking a broader approach to limiting spam. If that were not the case, this would be happening to more of us. Until you check the logs and, or, verify exactly where and why messages are getting flagged as spam with your list provider you can not make this assumption for sure. Yes, some individual hosts may bounce back messages if flagged as spam or they might flag them as spam but then everyone on these lists would be notified of this since the messages would end up in their spam folder. When this happens we have to ask why and where the list messages are being flagged as spam. Could be the list is not recognized until a member clicks to allow list messages to come through as a normal process of their account setup. Could be that the big network has flagged the message as spam, per my prior discussion, and passed it through to the individuals host who then puts it into the spam folder. This said, my messages are never marked as spam and never, nothing, is placed in my spam folder on my computer nor on the Road Runner / Brighthouse internet account management platform. Yet, I got bounced indicating the problem is that my messages are both getting bounced back to your provider and being sent through to me without being flagged as spam and passed through my Road Runner / Brighthouse account as not being spam. This indicates that the answers I have received from several folks who have managed lists using Mailman may indeed fit the description of the problem more accurately. In any case, you guys are working on the problem and my first suggestion would be to see if you can get access to the Mailman logs for your accounts. Also, check to ensure your provider is handling the DKIM, whatever that Domain Security stuff is, and, or, has Mailman setup not to deactivate your client accounts because of bounce back counts if they want to use some other security methodology. These are only suggestions and I am beginning to feel like I am beating a dead hourse and there are a couple of folks on list who are complaining about this thread so I am out but you can contact me off list if you want or if there is anything I can do to help with testing etc... You have my e-mail address on file so I wont post it here for GOD and the World. Later and have a good weekend indeed! Rick USA Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: pdf E-books
Hello! I did install Adobe Reader DC, using Windows 7 64-bit laptop and it does work well with WE 9.2. I first had to uninstall Adobe Reader XI. I found a lot of helpful material on the website along with keystrokes. I hope this helps someone. Jo Taliaferro -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+soaringeagle7=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:23 AM To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Paulette Vickery Subject: RE: pdf E-books It isn't a problem, it is how reading PDF files in Adobe Reader has always worked. If you want the visual page to coincide with what you are hearing, you need to switch to read only visible pages and use control-page up and control-page down. In Adobe Reader; Control-k for preferences, Press R in the tree until you get to reading. Tab 3 times and use your arrow keys to make the selection. When you are reading the entire document and you press page up and down you are moving the browse mode pointer 24 lines in the browse mode buffer. No visual synchronizing is taking place. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 5:16 PM To: Paulette Vickery paule...@evickery.com; talk viaGW t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Re: pdf E-books Yes. I’m using WE 9.2. From: Paulette Vickery Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:51 PM To: 'Tom Fairhurst' Subject: RE: pdf E-books Thanks for the information. Is this problem also true in WE 9.2? I have it, but I am afraid to install it. Paulette From: Tom Fairhurst [mailto:tfairhu...@kc.rr.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:54 AM To: paule...@evickery.com; talk viaGW Subject: pdf E-books In addition to what I said earlier, when I have the entire document displayed, the PageUp and PageDown keys move the display up and down 24 lines. No matter where I am in the displayed document, the page number doesn’t change. e.g., whether I’m on line 8000 or line 30. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/soaringeagle7%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: cartana
Not hel;pful to me at all since I can't get to the button being referenced, but thankf for the answer anyway. -Original Message- From: Jim Ruby [mailto:j...@blindsea.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 8:51 PM To: 'Tim Grady' timfgrady...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: cartana Try this link: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/turn-cortana-on-or-off -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jim=blindsea@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tim Grady via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:30 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: cartana How can one switch off cartana? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jim%40blindsea .com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: List Problems
These people are tired of having to re subcribe multiple times. If you dojn't like to read posts about Bouncing then practise being Tollerant, and read the subject line, and just press the Delete key. How much effort does it take to press the Delete key? there are all kinds of messages on this list that I have no interest, and I just press the delete key. No big deal. -- Dave dlh...@centurylink.net ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.
Hi Again Steve - responding to prior posting as I go through my e-mails. When a bounce back is generated it will only send one per day no matter how many messages are sent out by a particular account and then that may increment the Mailman bounce counter by .5 or .1. If you post allot to the list you are more likely to trigger the limit, post less and you wont trigger the limit. I have no spam filters on my provider, Brighthouse, and I get all talk list messages never marked as spam yet was disabled due to too many bounce backs. There are never any spam items in my online, internet, account folder on Road Runner / Brighthouse so I know they are not marking talk messages they pass through as spam, I hit the Outlook delete allot but it gives me a view into what is going on so I leavve it setup that way. The problem may indeed be something else but then what? Many other lists I am on never have this problem and only the WindowEyes lists are having this problem so something is diferent with the plumbing between their list providers and your list provider. As an old pro I would think you would throw a red flag in the direction of your list provider me thinks unless something else could be identified as singling your lists out as spam . When millions of other lists don’t have a problem and only one has a problem with the way Yahoo, Comcast, Road Runner, Brighthouse and others are working some standard operations and want to work within their guidelines you have to ask as we did with Big Bird, which of these things are not like the others. I don’t know but as an old Analyst, it sure would be the first direction I would look in for an answer. I will assume you have already checked the black lists out there to ensure you are not on them. That just leaves some technical issue and since I don’t see the huge multi-nationals black listing you because why? You are a tiny list about accessibility? Your list provider and your messages should be handled just like all other lists from other mail list providers but for some reason this is not the case. I still don’t understand fully how settings at say my end where I have no spam filters set could be causing bouncebacks when my e-mail provider is not even labeling them as spam in the first place. It is more likely there is a problem with your list provider and the big network guys and in particular with some settings on your provider. I could indeed be wrong but I have heard no other detailed explanation of what is going on that makes sense given the analysis of the available facts and data info. Hammer me on the head if I am missing something - no problem, lets just get it fixed - that is always my goal as a Programmer or Analyst and knowing you and others there this likely is the same bottom line. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to everyone. It is also the email server that receives email that is taking a broader approach to limiting spam. If that were not the case, this would be happening to more of us. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of joseph hudson via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:44 PM To: Rick Thomas ofbgm...@mi.rr.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Hello Rick, as I've joined this list to help others in just read tit bits and pieces of information as I help people out with technology on a daily basis. We were having the same issue a couple weeks ago on the another list that I help them run. It is part of the providers issues. So it's not anything that Square can do so daunting that they can do, is talk to the provider that's hosting their website. And it's up to them to take these email addresses off the block list I hope this better answers your questions, and everybody else’s. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 On Aug 28, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi: Sorry to hear that. This is getting ridiculus and totally unnecessary from some work I have done. Since you are bounced you wont get this but you might if you get reinstated. You might try contacting AI Squared and asking why this keeps happening over and over and don't let them tell you it is your fault or someone elses fault. As
RE: List Problems
Hi Nick and others who are tired of this thread line: Unless there is something for me to respond to specifically I am done with this thread. The problem has 2 outcomes, it will get fixed, it wont get fixed. Simple as that at the bottom line. Thanks to you and the others who are giving me a way out! I too am tired of this thread line indeed. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:54 AM To: Karyn Campbell karyn1...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com; 'Linda Mentink' ment...@frontiernet.net Subject: Re: List Problems The irony is, that all the people complaining about being bounced are able to tell us on the list that they have been bounced, thus being able to post on the list. That is why I don't consider this problem to be a priority. On 8/28/2015 10:33 PM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote: Linda, Thank you. I agree with you on this one and I'm also getting sick of this. I had a problem and contacted AISquared and got the problem dealt with. I would suggest that others do the same. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.2 on HP Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 64-bit with Office 2013 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7 home premium 64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft Windows Defender onAcer netbook as well as Macaffee Live Safe on HP Pavilion. Support the Illinois Council of the Blind at our GoFundMe page: www.gofundme.com/icb2015. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40 msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: sielencing window-eyes
Hi Sky, What does a Window Eyes certification give you? Are you a teacher of the WE program? If so, I need some serious hand holding. I would love to get the big picture of how to use Window Eyes in my head. Paulette Papulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 1:00 AM To: 'William Detherage'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: sielencing window-eyes Hello. To silence Window-Eyes,, just hit the control key on the bottom left of your keyboard. To enter the help menu in Window-Eyes, do the following: 1. press control-backslash to enter the Window-Eyes control panel. And 2. press alt h to open the help menu. I hope this helps. Sky. PS. I also have a Window-Eyes certification as well and I am proud to be Window-Eyes certified. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of William Detherage via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 8:48 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: sielencing window-eyes Hello, I was wondering what the key combination is to silence window-eyes? Also, what is the key combination to bring up the help minue? Thanks in advance, Billl Deatherage ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/paulette%40evi ckery.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.
Rick, Let's take this off the list after this. Since you replied on the list, let me only say that the list where I had similar bouncing trouble was not a list I controlled. In the case where my address was blocked, I did go to my provider who got it resolved, but the solution was getting it unblocked by the system receiving my email. In other words, a broad policy invoked by the receiving service was the cause, and in the end, they had to make the change, not my provider, but I and my provider had to spend the time proving we were not spammers and succeeded in the end. While you say millions of lists don't have this problem but one does, I have already mentioned that I know of other lists that do. One can also note that even on this list, many of us are not having a problem but only some do, but let's let them try to resolve this. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Rick Thomas [mailto:ofbgm...@mi.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 6:31 AM To: 'Steve Jacobson' steve.jacob...@visi.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Hi Steve, responding to your initial analysis with some suggestions: Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to everyone. Have you checked the Mailman Log Files to ensure it isnt happening to everyone? If so what are the messages about why you were getting bounce backs - either you should have access to these logs or your list provider should supply them upon request. Also, perhaps certain messages may pass a security check based on where they are sent from originally and where the major network host checks for compliance. This is, of course, if such logs are produced by the Mailman software but I should guess logs are produced since this is a major piece of software. It is also the email server that receives email that is taking a broader approach to limiting spam. If that were not the case, this would be happening to more of us. Until you check the logs and, or, verify exactly where and why messages are getting flagged as spam with your list provider you can not make this assumption for sure. Yes, some individual hosts may bounce back messages if flagged as spam or they might flag them as spam but then everyone on these lists would be notified of this since the messages would end up in their spam folder. When this happens we have to ask why and where the list messages are being flagged as spam. Could be the list is not recognized until a member clicks to allow list messages to come through as a normal process of their account setup. Could be that the big network has flagged the message as spam, per my prior discussion, and passed it through to the individuals host who then puts it into the spam folder. This said, my messages are never marked as spam and never, nothing, is placed in my spam folder on my computer nor on the Road Runner / Brighthouse internet account management platform. Yet, I got bounced indicating the problem is that my messages are both getting bounced back to your provider and being sent through to me without being flagged as spam and passed through my Road Runner / Brighthouse account as not being spam. This indicates that the answers I have received from several folks who have managed lists using Mailman may indeed fit the description of the problem more accurately. In any case, you guys are working on the problem and my first suggestion would be to see if you can get access to the Mailman logs for your accounts. Also, check to ensure your provider is handling the DKIM, whatever that Domain Security stuff is, and, or, has Mailman setup not to deactivate your client accounts because of bounce back counts if they want to use some other security methodology. These are only suggestions and I am beginning to feel like I am beating a dead hourse and there are a couple of folks on list who are complaining about this thread so I am out but you can contact me off list if you want or if there is anything I can do to help with testing etc... You have my e-mail address on file so I wont post it here for GOD and the World. Later and have a good weekend indeed! Rick USA Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Trouble with WLM Multiple Address List
When I put my multiple address list into WLM, it does not stay. Single addresses are OK. Anyone having this trouble with WLM? Running Windows 10 but had the same problem with Windows 7. WE 9.2 WLM 2012 -Bob Ringwald ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.
Sure Steve: Later and have a good weekend. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:36 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Rick, Let's take this off the list after this. Since you replied on the list, let me only say that the list where I had similar bouncing trouble was not a list I controlled. In the case where my address was blocked, I did go to my provider who got it resolved, but the solution was getting it unblocked by the system receiving my email. In other words, a broad policy invoked by the receiving service was the cause, and in the end, they had to make the change, not my provider, but I and my provider had to spend the time proving we were not spammers and succeeded in the end. While you say millions of lists don't have this problem but one does, I have already mentioned that I know of other lists that do. One can also note that even on this list, many of us are not having a problem but only some do, but let's let them try to resolve this. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Rick Thomas [mailto:ofbgm...@mi.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 6:31 AM To: 'Steve Jacobson' steve.jacob...@visi.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Hi Steve, responding to your initial analysis with some suggestions: Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to everyone. Have you checked the Mailman Log Files to ensure it isnt happening to everyone? If so what are the messages about why you were getting bounce backs - either you should have access to these logs or your list provider should supply them upon request. Also, perhaps certain messages may pass a security check based on where they are sent from originally and where the major network host checks for compliance. This is, of course, if such logs are produced by the Mailman software but I should guess logs are produced since this is a major piece of software. It is also the email server that receives email that is taking a broader approach to limiting spam. If that were not the case, this would be happening to more of us. Until you check the logs and, or, verify exactly where and why messages are getting flagged as spam with your list provider you can not make this assumption for sure. Yes, some individual hosts may bounce back messages if flagged as spam or they might flag them as spam but then everyone on these lists would be notified of this since the messages would end up in their spam folder. When this happens we have to ask why and where the list messages are being flagged as spam. Could be the list is not recognized until a member clicks to allow list messages to come through as a normal process of their account setup. Could be that the big network has flagged the message as spam, per my prior discussion, and passed it through to the individuals host who then puts it into the spam folder. This said, my messages are never marked as spam and never, nothing, is placed in my spam folder on my computer nor on the Road Runner / Brighthouse internet account management platform. Yet, I got bounced indicating the problem is that my messages are both getting bounced back to your provider and being sent through to me without being flagged as spam and passed through my Road Runner / Brighthouse account as not being spam. This indicates that the answers I have received from several folks who have managed lists using Mailman may indeed fit the description of the problem more accurately. In any case, you guys are working on the problem and my first suggestion would be to see if you can get access to the Mailman logs for your accounts. Also, check to ensure your provider is handling the DKIM, whatever that Domain Security stuff is, and, or, has Mailman setup not to deactivate your client accounts because of bounce back counts if they want to use some other security methodology. These are only suggestions and I am beginning to feel like I am beating a dead hourse and there are a couple of folks on list who are complaining about this thread so I am out but you can contact me off list if you want or if there is anything I can do to help with testing etc... You have my e-mail address on file so I wont post it here for GOD and the World. Later and have a good weekend indeed! Rick USA Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
Rick, Since this topic is not all that relevant since it is being worked on, I just want to say that I would never advocate someone click on a link within an email. A link can say one thing and do something completely different. This is less true, though, when you reply to an email. It is good to double-check the address in the TO field of the message to which you are replying, but addresses in the to field are pretty much what they say they are. If a link within a message said Click here to confirm, one should never do that. The mailman confirmations I have seen, though, don't do that. I will write more to you off list. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Rick Thomas [mailto:ofbgm...@mi.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:57 AM To: 'Steve Jacobson' steve.jacob...@visi.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions Hi Steve: First, For me clicking the Reinstate link in the e-mail telling me my account had been disable seemed to work. That said, it is risky to ever click on anything inside a e-mail message unless you are 100 percent sure who the sender was. Financial institutions include enough partial information in such a e-mail to ensure it is related to the actual sender and your account to avoid bad guys from spoofing, fishing or even trying to impart a virus on your machine in their name. After talking on list I was pretty sure the message was from AI Squared so did that after having tried to do it via the Website which I couldn't get to work - at least not quickly. Next,there is a process where the providers like Comcast, Brighthouse, Yahoo and most others will ping back any messages sent to them to see if it was sent from a valid, active, e-mail address and this, I think, is a part of the DKIM standards put in place and adopted since think around 2005. If a valid return is not received they will bounce back the message to your provider, usually also sending it through to the end point but sometimes flagging it as spam, sometimes not before it gets to the endpoint client. Your providers Mailman will get the postbacks, bounces, as a warning that there was a potential security issue with the message sent from your Mailman server and check the settings to see how to handle them. Unless setup to handle these bounces your providers Mailman will increment a counter depending on the bounceback level, hard or soft, for the person who tried to send the message through the providers Mailman server. If Mailman is configured to disable an account after a certain number of bounces your client will then be automatically disabled when that threshold has been reached. The bouncebacks your Mailman Provider is getting is thus likely due to the fact it is not setup to handle the ping backs, security tests, that the big providers use, gets their bounces even if they send the message through to the end user marked as spam, not marked as spam or the big provider might not even send it through but they all will generate a bounce back to your Mailman Provider if Mailman and your Host Provider are not setup properly. Of course, without having access to your providers hardware and software there is no way for me to either verify this nor fix it. This is what several folks have told me they have encountered in the past and others have told me the same thing and to look into the Domain thingy - I forget exactly what it is called but think the acronym was DKIM.This is not in my programming wheelhouse so I had to dig to find out what may be going on via the symptoms reported by everyone. It is a standard all the big e-mail host providers agreed to use from what I remember about that article I posted here much like the w3c standards or iso standards with a governing body and all that jazz. I know you are a pretty good programmer so take a look at things, Mailman Documentation and see what it says about bouncebacks and automatic removel of clients and settings, then read up on the DKIM thing, I will go find the actual name if you get stuck but the document was in one of my prior postings. If this is not the problem let me know so I wont be barking up the wrong tree. I wont get mad or hurt feelings, I just want to get the job done. Your fault, my fault, nobodys fault - just get it done is my philosophy. This may mean tweaking the software or even finding a new provider but many of us are on several other high traffic lists and don't have these problems. One other thing to look at not mentioned is that someone may have put your lists on a BlackList which some of the list providers look at - remember that hacker who didn't seem to like you guys? So you might peek at them to ensure your lists are not being black listed before stranggling your list provider. That's all I have unless there is anything I can look up or ask folks who actually know
RE: cartana
Hi, ok, sorry I have more time now, hit the windows key and you should hear cortana edit field. Now type in cortana. Press enter on: Cortana system settings search settings. Now press tab until you hear where it talks about cortana. You will have to listen to the blerb then you will be on a toggle switch and you can just change that to off. Hope that gives you more help. If not I can go and get the exact things you should be hearing or make you a demo to listen to. -Original Message- From: Tim Grady [mailto:timfgrady...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 8:04 AM To: 'Jim Ruby'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: cartana Not hel;pful to me at all since I can't get to the button being referenced, but thankf for the answer anyway. -Original Message- From: Jim Ruby [mailto:j...@blindsea.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 8:51 PM To: 'Tim Grady' timfgrady...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: cartana Try this link: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/turn-cortana-on-or-off -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jim=blindsea@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tim Grady via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:30 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: cartana How can one switch off cartana? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jim%40blindsea .com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
wevideo92
Hi, Can I use wevideo92 on a Windows 10 machine? Thx -Steve ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Rolled Back To Windows 7
I have never had good results with a in place install. any old problems will be carried over to the new windows version because it keeps the old registry settings. but with windows 10, once you have done the in place install it will be automatically activated with microsoft. then you can do a clean install. what I did was, while still running windows 10 is to use a system reset instead. this also reinstalleds windows with the choice to keep your personal files or save nothing. both ways you still get a clean registry and a reinstallation of windows and the default apps. both ways will erase the previously installed apps you installed after windows was installed. I kept my personal files. it keeps the desktop icons and personal folders you created. but not the programs. and it kept all my personal installation program files so I could reinstall again. it kept the folders where I have the shareware and commercial programs I have to install. I use a folder called installations. with sub folders for each program. I copy all my installation cd’s there so even if I lose the cd’s I will still be able to re install them. w e, openbook,text aloud,goldwave,printer drivers etc. are all there. and on carbonite on line backup. ** the setup part of your programs are not speech friendly at all with windows 10. many controls and instructions will not speak without using the mouse. even setup programs that have full speech when installing them with windows 7. From: Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 1:31 PM To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Rolled Back To Windows 7 Hi Pastor, I had the same problem with the startmenu as you had. Today I have installed win10 again over my old windows. This time I have choosen to do a clean install. don't takeover my old settings. Currently only window-eyes, a password manager and becky mail are installed, but Window-Eyes is reading the startmenu as aspected. Regards, marten On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:23:08 -0700 Pastor Gil Pries via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi, I rolled back to windows 77 32 bit. I couldn’t read or do much with my start menu in Windows 10 and Window-eyes wasn’t reading windows notifications and some other stuff was going on. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and Xplorer2
Hi Don, Indead: it seems that when running WE and Xplorer2 and closing Xplorer2, the dialog is displayed and not when using Nvda for example. I am using win10 32bit and WE9.2 at the moment, but have also seen this in win7 and older versions of WE. Regards, marten On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:01:42 -0500 Don H via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 10 64 bit machine and the latest version of Xplorer2 file manager program. When I open Xplorer2 and then close it I get a dialog box stating that Some background operations have not finished and do I want to wait for them with a yes or no button. This happens 100 percent of the time. If I first stop WE and then use Xplorer in the same way this dialog box does not come up. Turn WE back on and the dialog boxes come back. Have turned off all WE apps and this does not fix it. Seems to be some conflict between Xplorer and WE. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE and Xplorer2
Running WE 9.2 on a Windows 10 64 bit machine and the latest version of Xplorer2 file manager program. When I open Xplorer2 and then close it I get a dialog box stating that Some background operations have not finished and do I want to wait for them with a yes or no button. This happens 100 percent of the time. If I first stop WE and then use Xplorer in the same way this dialog box does not come up. Turn WE back on and the dialog boxes come back. Have turned off all WE apps and this does not fix it. Seems to be some conflict between Xplorer and WE. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Rolled Back To Windows 7
Hi, I rolled back to windows 77 32 bit. I couldn’t read or do much with my start menu in Windows 10 and Window-eyes wasn’t reading windows notifications and some other stuff was going on. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Rolled Back To Windows 7
Hi Pastor, I had the same problem with the startmenu as you had. Today I have installed win10 again over my old windows. This time I have choosen to do a clean install. don't takeover my old settings. Currently only window-eyes, a password manager and becky mail are installed, but Window-Eyes is reading the startmenu as aspected. Regards, marten On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:23:08 -0700 Pastor Gil Pries via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi, I rolled back to windows 77 32 bit. I couldnt read or do much with my start menu in Windows 10 and Window-eyes wasnt reading windows notifications and some other stuff was going on. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Rolled Back To Windows 7
Classic shell works well with Windows 10 On 8/29/2015 3:23 PM, Pastor Gil Pries via Talk wrote: Hi, I rolled back to windows 77 32 bit. I couldn’t read or do much with my start menu in Windows 10 and Window-eyes wasn’t reading windows notifications and some other stuff was going on. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Rolled Back To Windows 7
Hey Marten, Was the clean install doable without sighted assistance? Thanks, Tom On 8/29/2015 4:31 PM, Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote: Hi Pastor, I had the same problem with the startmenu as you had. Today I have installed win10 again over my old windows. This time I have choosen to do a clean install. don't takeover my old settings. Currently only window-eyes, a password manager and becky mail are installed, but Window-Eyes is reading the startmenu as aspected. Regards, marten On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:23:08 -0700 Pastor Gil Pries via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi, I rolled back to windows 77 32 bit. I couldn’t read or do much with my start menu in Windows 10 and Window-eyes wasn’t reading windows notifications and some other stuff was going on. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/martenpu%40xs4all.nl. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Rolled Back To Windows 7
Gil, Would you please write me privately off list? I need to ask you a question which wouldn't be appropriate for this particular list. I can't seem to extract your e-mail address from your post. My address is: clgillan...@gmail.com Thank you brother, and God bless. Chris. - Original Message - From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com To: t...@window-eyes.com Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:23 PM Subject: Rolled Back To Windows 7 Hi, I rolled back to windows 77 32 bit. I couldn’t read or do much with my start menu in Windows 10 and Window-eyes wasn’t reading windows notifications and some other stuff was going on. Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/clgilland07%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.
And here is the best part, until an earlier reply today, I haven't post to the list in about two months so how on earth can my email be bouncing when I only read the list?! Cindy -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk- bounces+slerythema=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 6:29 AM To: 'Steve Jacobson' steve.jacob...@visi.com; 'Window- Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Hi Again Steve - responding to prior posting as I go through my e-mails. When a bounce back is generated it will only send one per day no matter how many messages are sent out by a particular account and then that may increment the Mailman bounce counter by .5 or .1. If you post allot to the list you are more likely to trigger the limit, post less and you wont trigger the limit. I have no spam filters on my provider, Brighthouse, and I get all talk list messages never marked as spam yet was disabled due to too many bounce backs. There are never any spam items in my online, internet, account folder on Road Runner / Brighthouse so I know they are not marking talk messages they pass through as spam, I hit the Outlook delete allot but it gives me a view into what is going on so I leavve it setup that way. The problem may indeed be something else but then what? Many other lists I am on never have this problem and only the WindowEyes lists are having this problem so something is diferent with the plumbing between their list providers and your list provider. As an old pro I would think you would throw a red flag in the direction of your list provider me thinks unless something else could be identified as singling your lists out as spam . When millions of other lists don’t have a problem and only one has a problem with the way Yahoo, Comcast, Road Runner, Brighthouse and others are working some standard operations and want to work within their guidelines you have to ask as we did with Big Bird, which of these things are not like the others. I don’t know but as an old Analyst, it sure would be the first direction I would look in for an answer. I will assume you have already checked the black lists out there to ensure you are not on them. That just leaves some technical issue and since I don’t see the huge multi-nationals black listing you because why? You are a tiny list about accessibility? Your list provider and your messages should be handled just like all other lists from other mail list providers but for some reason this is not the case. I still don’t understand fully how settings at say my end where I have no spam filters set could be causing bouncebacks when my e-mail provider is not even labeling them as spam in the first place. It is more likely there is a problem with your list provider and the big network guys and in particular with some settings on your provider. I could indeed be wrong but I have heard no other detailed explanation of what is going on that makes sense given the analysis of the available facts and data info. Hammer me on the head if I am missing something - no problem, lets just get it fixed - that is always my goal as a Programmer or Analyst and knowing you and others there this likely is the same bottom line. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk- bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window- eyes.com Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to everyone. It is also the email server that receives email that is taking a broader approach to limiting spam. If that were not the case, this would be happening to more of us. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk- bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of joseph hudson via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:44 PM To: Rick Thomas ofbgm...@mi.rr.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Hello Rick, as I've joined this list to help others in just read tit bits and pieces of information as I help people out with technology on a daily basis. We were having the same issue a couple weeks ago on the another list that I help them run. It is part of the providers issues. So it's not anything that Square can do so daunting that they can do, is talk to the provider that's hosting their website. And it's up to them to take these email addresses off the block list I hope this better answers your questions, and everybody else’s. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone
RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again.
Cindy, It is messages that are being sent to you that are bouncing, not message you send. They have said they are working on this, so I won't go on and on about this, though. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of slery via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:51 PM To: 'Rick Thomas' ofbgm...@mi.rr.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. And here is the best part, until an earlier reply today, I haven't post to the list in about two months so how on earth can my email be bouncing when I only read the list?! Cindy -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk- bounces+slerythema=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 6:29 AM To: 'Steve Jacobson' steve.jacob...@visi.com; 'Window- Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Hi Again Steve - responding to prior posting as I go through my e-mails. When a bounce back is generated it will only send one per day no matter how many messages are sent out by a particular account and then that may increment the Mailman bounce counter by .5 or .1. If you post allot to the list you are more likely to trigger the limit, post less and you wont trigger the limit. I have no spam filters on my provider, Brighthouse, and I get all talk list messages never marked as spam yet was disabled due to too many bounce backs. There are never any spam items in my online, internet, account folder on Road Runner / Brighthouse so I know they are not marking talk messages they pass through as spam, I hit the Outlook delete allot but it gives me a view into what is going on so I leavve it setup that way. The problem may indeed be something else but then what? Many other lists I am on never have this problem and only the WindowEyes lists are having this problem so something is diferent with the plumbing between their list providers and your list provider. As an old pro I would think you would throw a red flag in the direction of your list provider me thinks unless something else could be identified as singling your lists out as spam . When millions of other lists don’t have a problem and only one has a problem with the way Yahoo, Comcast, Road Runner, Brighthouse and others are working some standard operations and want to work within their guidelines you have to ask as we did with Big Bird, which of these things are not like the others. I don’t know but as an old Analyst, it sure would be the first direction I would look in for an answer. I will assume you have already checked the black lists out there to ensure you are not on them. That just leaves some technical issue and since I don’t see the huge multi-nationals black listing you because why? You are a tiny list about accessibility? Your list provider and your messages should be handled just like all other lists from other mail list providers but for some reason this is not the case. I still don’t understand fully how settings at say my end where I have no spam filters set could be causing bouncebacks when my e-mail provider is not even labeling them as spam in the first place. It is more likely there is a problem with your list provider and the big network guys and in particular with some settings on your provider. I could indeed be wrong but I have heard no other detailed explanation of what is going on that makes sense given the analysis of the available facts and data info. Hammer me on the head if I am missing something - no problem, lets just get it fixed - that is always my goal as a Programmer or Analyst and knowing you and others there this likely is the same bottom line. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk- bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window- eyes.com Subject: RE: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Well, it is only sort of the provider since this doesn't happen to everyone. It is also the email server that receives email that is taking a broader approach to limiting spam. If that were not the case, this would be happening to more of us. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk- bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of joseph hudson via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:44 PM To: Rick Thomas ofbgm...@mi.rr.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: got cut off again for bounces. Please set me up again. Hello Rick, as I've joined this list to help others in just read tit bits and pieces of
Re: Rolled Back To Windows 7
I had problems with abbyy finereader 12 and I had to reinstall skype, no sound out of it at all till I did that -- I had to actually uninstall and reinstall, but other than that, so far so good. Bob Tinney via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: I've now installed Windows 10 on three computers and I kept all of the old settings. The start menu reads just fine and the only problem I had was that after I installed a Skype update on my desktop, The desktop Skype shortcut stopped working and I had to reestablish the shortcut again to get Skype to work again. Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 8/29/2015 6:02 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: I have never had good results with a in place install. any old problems will be carried over to the new windows version because it keeps the old registry settings. but with windows 10, once you have done the in place install it will be automatically activated with microsoft. then you can do a clean install. what I did was, while still running windows 10 is to use a system reset instead. this also reinstalleds windows with the choice to keep your personal files or save nothing. both ways you still get a clean registry and a reinstallation of windows and the default apps. both ways will erase the previously installed apps you installed after windows was installed. I kept my personal files. it keeps the desktop icons and personal folders you created. but not the programs. and it kept all my personal installation program files so I could reinstall again. it kept the folders where I have the shareware and commercial programs I have to install. I use a folder called installations. with sub folders for each program. I copy all my installation cd’s there so even if I lose the cd’s I will still be able to re install them. w e, openbook,text aloud,goldwave,printer drivers etc. are all there. and on carbonite on line backup. ** the setup part of your programs are not speech friendly at all with windows 10. many controls and instructions will not speak without using the mouse. even setup programs that have full speech when installing them with windows 7. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: List Problems
It is a problem when the bounce report comes to you in your list folder and it looks like spam because it says confirm 12654ANBI'ELKMBYAIDK I would never have opened it except after I had not received and list email for almost a week it showed up in my GW folder. It is nice to know that you can be dropped off-list when there is nothing wrong your email but the list is having some kind of problem. Cindy -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk- bounces+slerythema=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 4:54 AM To: Karyn Campbell karyn1...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com; 'Linda Mentink' ment...@frontiernet.net Subject: Re: List Problems The irony is, that all the people complaining about being bounced are able to tell us on the list that they have been bounced, thus being able to post on the list. That is why I don't consider this problem to be a priority. On 8/28/2015 10:33 PM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote: Linda, Thank you. I agree with you on this one and I'm also getting sick of this. I had a problem and contacted AISquared and got the problem dealt with. I would suggest that others do the same. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.2 on HP Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium 64-bit with Office 2013 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7 home premium 64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft Windows Defender onAcer netbook as well as Macaffee Live Safe on HP Pavilion. Support the Illinois Council of the Blind at our GoFundMe page: www.gofundme.com/icb2015. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window- eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window- eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window- eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window- eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window- eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window- eyes.com/slerythema%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window- eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window- eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Skype and accessibility
Hi, I want to install skype on this computer. Are any of the versions accessible with WE9.1? Thanks, Vinny ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and thedetailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
It was on freelists before. There was some kind of a problem, otherwise, they wouldn't have changed it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 4:19 PM To: 'Chris Grabowski' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and thedetailed postings about potential causes and resolutions Hi Again: Take a look at Free Lists as a e-mail provider. Messages get put through almost instantly and they seem never to have any problems. I don’t know if a company can host a list there or if they have enough security but a couple of lists I know use them and those lists are very good for the clients. You might contact them to see if they can meet your requirements. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:22 PM To: Rick Thomas ofbgm...@mi.rr.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions Rick and list, We are working with our hosting provider to try and rectify the situation. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 2:43 PM To: 'Nick Sarames' nicksara...@msn.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions What are you saying? That they are so behind the curve, so sloppy and so inept that they don't have time to fix one of the most important parts of a company, the public face of the company ie the e-list and their website? Is that your stand? Rick USA -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames [mailto:nicksara...@msn.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:18 PM To: Rick Thomas ofbgm...@mi.rr.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions Do you really think, with everything going on, that this should be their most important priority? So it takes a couple of minutes to subscribe again, is that really a big deal? That said, I am one of the lucky ones. On 8/28/2015 12:10 PM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: Hi: I have not seen any postings from AI Squared about the likely source of their bouncing problem.Perhaps they have not come through to me or perhaps they are just not interested. If you have heard anything on list let me know. I put some real work into finding answers for them so would appreciate at least a shout out about what they have found out. I do think there is a answer to this problem and it lies with AI Squared and would like to hear if they are working on it or if they just don't care or if all the pros I have talked are full of carp. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40 msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40a isquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription
