Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů
2015-08-24 13:57 GMT+02:00 Petr Kadlec petr.kad...@gmail.com: 2015-08-24 9:35 GMT+02:00 Michal Grézl michal.gr...@openstreetmap.cz: Zobrazovadlo fungovalo. Ted uz nefunguje, nebot zrusili toolserver.org (pred rokem;) Pokud bude nahrada tak to opravim. Náhrada už dávno je na https://tools.wmflabs.org/kmlexport/ (např. https://tools.wmflabs.org/kmlexport/?project=commonsarticle=Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_Chomutov_District). Jo to uz sem taky zjistitl, uz to zase funguje. Ale to nucené ruční vybírání podkategorie mi přijde dost uživatelsky nepoužitelné. To chce načíst _všechny_ regiony automaticky, ne, aby uživatel musel vymýšlet, kde že to zrovna je. Pomocí https://tools.wmflabs.org/kmlexport/?project=commonsarticle=Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_the_Czech_Republic_by_regionl=0 by se (snad) mělo stáhnout KML _všech_ rozcestníků pod touhle kategorií, ale to už samozřejmě není dobrý nápad dělat pro každého uživatele na straně klienta, ale chtělo by to tenhle soubor stáhnout třeba jednou denně na ten server a zpracovávat lokálně a servírovat příslušné rozcestníky automaticky. No to by urcite slo. A funguje to. Pridam tam moznost zobrazit vsechny, kmlexport by ale mohl umet bbox, kdyz uz umi rekurzi kategorii. Automaticky ... se planuje az po prepsani cele veci pod leaflet, nebo pod nejnovejsi verzi openlayers. Nicmene s moji reakcni dobou to muze chvilku trvat. hahaha btw: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Rusty_hiking_guideposts_in_the_Czech_Republic -- Petr Kadlec / Mormegil ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz -- Michal Grézl http://openstreetmap.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails
On 24/08/2015 04:23, Balaco Baco wrote: Are you saying if a building gets demolished replaced with a new one, you wouldn't remove the original outline from OSM? I'm saying that simply deleting the original outline, leaving nothing in its place is different than putting the *same quality outline* for the newer building that should be there. And while this new data does not exist, the old one should stay there as it is. It should, at most, be marked with a tag such as end date or demolished or anything similar. Simply deleting it is bad. No. If it's gone, it's gone. If there's no new structure to replace it, then leave the area empty. If it's becomes a construction site, tag it as that. If it becomes a brownfield site, tag it as that. Please base your editing on facts evidence. And to justify the deletion for a currently demolished building is silly and naive: buildings are usually replaced much faster than maps are expected to last, and the work of updating it twice, once for the empty space, dem. building and the future new building outline is better done only one time. I've read this a few times I'm struggling to comprehend. You're saying I shouldn't remove a building from OSM that's already been demolished in the real world because... ? that's where you lost me --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-dk] Stier på kirkegårde
Hjart skrev: Nogle stykker af os havde fornyligt en lille diskussion om stier på kirkegårde (se http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/413399). I forlængelse af den diskussion vil jeg først lige tilkendegive, at jeg som udgangspunklt bestemt synes, at den slags stier hører hjemme i OSM. Man kunne jo også have brug for at navigere rundt på kirkegården. I tilfældet med Tårnby Kirke kan man måske undre sig over, at det pågældende stisystem tilsyneladende ikke er forbundet til de omkringliggende veje. Personligt ville jeg nok have startet med det, men folk er jo forskellige... En ting jeg gerne lige vil komme ind på er måden gangstierne er tegnet på (kig på data). Ja, det er ikke lavet elegant, omend det ikke er direkte forkert. Jeg ved ikke, hvordan man kan opdrage nye brugere til at gøre det pænere. Men det kan ikke kun være et problem her i Danmark. Måske kunne man tilføje noget på den internationale (og danske) wiki om det. - Jørgen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Meetup
When I last saw Ben, we started talking about how the Meetup thing really depends on very few people (you know who you are) to keep them going. We came up with two ideas. One: also do something different than just have geo-beers Two: let's challenge the community to organise one event (hackathon, mapathon, drinkathon, mapping party) at least once a month. First just at the national level, and iw we can do that, more ambitions at regional or local level. So Nicolas, if you would do an event in september, that would be excellent! Then that leaves just oktober, november and december for someone to pitch in :) I'm thinking about doing a mapping party in Gent and a mapathon in Antwerp, so you are going to have to be quick! Maybe we could make a wiki article about it? Nicolas, from the location, I would guess you're aiming at the student population too? Maybe a day during the week would be better then? 2015-08-24 11:22 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be: Dear Joost Ruben, Thanks for the idea and the organization. I am in Brussels during the week. During the week-end, I can move. I can help with the organization of a beery activity around Etterbeek or Ixelles. The campus of ESI (very close to Central station in Brussels) is accessible on Saturday mornings as we did last year. Best regards, Nicolas Le 2015-08-24 11:10, Ruben De Smet a écrit : I just checked my schedule (saw the hackaton appear on meetup) and the week of the 24th, my University (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, the Flemish version of FOSDEM's university Université Libre de Bruxelles/ULB) sessions start again. I saw the 25th, I have a college to attend at 8 o'clock. I could come by and have a look, although my attendace would be short. I don't mind hacky nor beery by the way. Both of them are great. Apparently I have college every day at 8:00, except for Wednesdays, where I only start at 13 o'clock. I'm near Antwerp for the weekends and in Brussels for the weeks. I can probably get something organised at the Etterbeek campus too. -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une Société libre utilise des outils libres ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Joost @ Openstreetmap http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/ | Twitter https://twitter.com/joostjakob | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603 | Meetup http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/ | Reddit https://www.reddit.com/u/joostjakob | Wordpress https://joostschouppe.wordpress.com/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] Reply-to header
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: AFAIK this is the standard mailman configuration and not different from other lists. the reply-to you mention is mot in every mail from this list, but only in those which are from this person. that's expected. You should respect netiquette and make a new thread when starting a new topic. Don't just hit reply on a random email from the list and change subject. m. On 2015년 08월 24일 13:53, Balaco Baco wrote: P. S.: this mailing list does not add a Reply-to header to mail messages, as I'm used to. So I initially sent the answer to just one person. This should be changed - may it not confuse the majority of users!? It normally does, not sure what happened here. All messages I received from OSM list does not have the reply-to header with the list address. And to make sure of this, now I just opened 10 of them, among the most recent, and checked their full headers. Only one of those messages contain a reply-to header, and it is not the list address. It is: Reply-To: j...@jfeldredge.com The reply-to header is a per-list configuration item. So some lists set it and some don't. The tagging and HOT lists set it to the list address. The talk and talk-us lists do not set it. It gets brought up every few months by someone who either replied to the list when they didn't want to or replied to an individual when they wanted to reply to the list. Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-be] SOTM 2016 and meetings
Dear Ben THe largest room is big enough ... only to gather the people who will take care of the preparation. My proposal is to meet sometimes, starting next month, for the preparation of SOTM, not SOTM itself ! Regards Nicolas Le lun 24 aoû 2015 à 16:10, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com a écrit : On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be wrote: ESI is well located centrally, close to Central station, if has the infrastructure (as it is a computing school), and I can most probably obtain the room for free. Does it have big enough rooms? Because the pictures in the gallery on its website only show small classrooms. If a thousand people are coming we may need to have at least one auditorium that can seat a few hundred. Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-at] Grenzimport Wien
On 21.08.15 18:02, Frederik Ramm wrote: Daher muss im Einzelfall mit dem CC-By-Lizenzgeber geklärt werden, ob er einverstanden ist. Nur der Vollständigkeit halber: Für OGD Daten der Stadt/Gemeinde Wien wurde das abgeklärt, eine Nennung hier so http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright war gewünscht. Ich nehme an, dass die hier zur Diskussion stehenden Daten nicht von der Stadt Wien stammen? N.B.: Grenzpolygone in AT werden von diversen Stellen gerne (unterschiedlich) generalisiert, man muss unbedingt vorher abklären, ob das im jeweiligen Fall nicht so ist. Das geht übrigens so weit, dass man diese Diskrepanzen z.B. zwischen den Bundesländern in basemap.at sieht... /al ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů
Dne 24.8.2015 v 09:35 Michal Grézl napsal(a): 2015-08-18 22:19 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz: -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Michal Grézl michal.gr...@openstreetmap.cz Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 18. 8. 2015 20:54:11 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů Je to původní (nic moc) verze. Je v plánu ji předělat a rozcestníky přesunout jinam. Možná Wikimedia commons nebo Mappilary nebo ještě někam úplně jinam. male doplneni, rozcestniky neni v planu nikam presouvat, je v planu udelat export do jinych sluzeb Omlouvám se za nepřesnost ;-) Já zkoušel upload na Mappilary a následný export na Wikimedia commons. Rozcestníku jsem pak fotku přidal přes tag wikimedia_commons. Přijde mi fajn ji tam mít. Teď ještě, aby někdo podporoval zobrazení té fotky. Případně by to chtělo pouvažovat, jak těch fotek přidat více. Někdy jedna nestačí. zobrazovadlo rozcestniku umi zobrazovat rozcestniky z commons, jen musi byt spravne zarazene do kategorie. No právě. V tom trochu plavu. Export z mapillary to někam prásknul a teď nevím, co na wikimedia commons s tím. Jak dál. Zobrazovadlo fungovalo. Ted uz nefunguje, nebot zrusili toolserver.org (pred rokem;) Pokud bude nahrada tak to opravim. Na commons je treba to akorat nahrat a pridat do podkategorie zde: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_the_Czech_Republic_by_region Přidal jsem do https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_Brunt%C3%A1l_District , ale v tom comboboxu vpravo tu kategorii stejně nenajdu. Je tam jen T - Moravian-Silesian Region. Žádné podkategorie jako jinde. Ale to je jen takový detail, stejně se to bude předělávat ;-) Marián Více by se mi líbila podpora tagu wikimedia_commons. Není třeba hledat v jiné databázi, odkaz na ten správný soubor je přímo u osm uzlu. Osobně bych uvítal nějaký nástroj, který to nahraje přímo na wikimedia commons (a eventuálně i na Mapillary) a vyplivne mi text, který pak přidám k rozcestníku. A nebo ještě lépe - upravit wikipedia josm plugin, aby pracoval i s daty wikimedia commons. presne tohle je v planu První, druhé nebo oboje? :-D Hlavne prvni, to druhe by bylo taky fajn. Ja bych chtel plugin obecny, co by podporoval geojson, nebo georss. To by mi umoznilo vcelku jednoduse udelat podporu pro josm primo z me db. Tohle si sem pridam abych nezapomel, jsou tam uzitecne veci: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_tools Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-dk] Stier på kirkegårde
On 24-08-2015 14:35, Jørgen Elgaard Larsen wrote: Hjart skrev: Nogle stykker af os havde fornyligt en lille diskussion om stier på kirkegårde (se http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/413399). I forlængelse af den diskussion vil jeg først lige tilkendegive, at jeg som udgangspunklt bestemt synes, at den slags stier hører hjemme i OSM. Man kunne jo også have brug for at navigere rundt på kirkegården. I tilfældet med Tårnby Kirke kan man måske undre sig over, at det pågældende stisystem tilsyneladende ikke er forbundet til de omkringliggende veje. Personligt ville jeg nok have startet med det, men folk er jo forskellige... Det er faktisk lidt alvorlig Jeg oplevede det selv i Reykjavik http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2107832620#map=18/64.1/-21.95589 De har nogle importerede fortove, som de efter min mening helt forkert har tegnet som selvstændige footpaths, som ofte ikke er forbundet til resten af vejene. Det betyder, at når man er gående og bruger en GPS-app, der finder ruter, så hopper den af og til over på fortovet, og så viser den nogle meget lange og mærkelige ruter. Ikke nogen god reklame for OSM. (Jeg overvejer at rydde op i det, men vil lige først vende det med nogen på Island inden jeg sletter næsten hele deres importerede datasæt). En ting jeg gerne lige vil komme ind på er måden gangstierne er tegnet på (kig på data). Ja, det er ikke lavet elegant, omend det ikke er direkte forkert. Jeg har ryddet lidt op i det. Jeg ved ikke, hvordan man kan opdrage nye brugere til at gøre det pænere. Men det kan ikke kun være et problem her i Danmark. Måske kunne man tilføje noget på den internationale (og danske) wiki om det. - Jørgen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk -- Niels Elgaard Larsen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] [OpenStreetMap] Hjart har kommenteret på et af dine ændringssæt
On 21-08-2015 10:53, Sonny B. Andersen wrote: Som altid kunne en redigeringsbemærkning misforstås, så jeg skulle nok have skrevet: Der er ikke fortove på kirkegårde, men min tommelfingerregel er at 'footway' kun bruges om flise/asfalt-stier i bymæssige områder. Ellers er jeg enig i, at highway-taggene som regel relaterer til anvendelse. Rettelsen er baseret på denne definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidewalk hvoraf det fremgår at den professionelle engelske sprogbrug sætter lighedstegn mellem footway og sidewalk Denne her ser lidt anderledes op det: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/footway og af denne web-side http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Path_examples hvoraf det fremgår at 'footway' er flisebelagt/asfalteret og 'path' alt mulig andet, som man kan definere efter behov. Det synes jeg nu ikke fremgår så klart. Der er i alt fald ikke eksempler på noget, jeg ville tagge som footway, som ikke også bliver det på den side. - Så jeg holder fast i min opfattelse: stier på kirkegårde skal tagges som 'path' Der er en diskussion på: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:landuse%3Dcemetery Apropos det, så tegner jeg highway=service på kirkegårde, der hvor der er gjort plads til at rustvogne og handicapbusser mm kan komme frem. Kirkegården burde måske også være tagget som amenity=grave_yard Jeg har en mistanke om, at den generelle mapper-opfattelse er, at når det hedder 'cycleway' for cyklister, så må det også hedde 'footway' for fodgængere. Det er altså ikke rigtigt, men sådan er der jo så mange sproglige særheder. tags får jo lidt deres eget liv på OSM. Fx tagger vi også veje som highway, selvom der ikke er offentlig adgang: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway / sba-dk P.S.: Jeg synes diskussioner som denne og den tidligere kirkegårdssnak skal kopieres til talk-dk, så alle kan følge med. *Fra:*OpenStreetMap [mailto:w...@noreply.openstreetmap.org] *Sendt:* 20. august 2015 18:25 *Til:* s...@bukhmark.dk mailto:s...@bukhmark.dk *Emne:* [OpenStreetMap] Hjart har kommenteret på et af dine ændringssæt Hej, Hjart har efterladt en kommentar på et af dine ændringssæt, oprettet 2015-08-20 16:25:12 UTC med kommentaren 'Vejene på kirkegården har hverken asfalt eller fliser, derfor kan de IKKE være footway' == Man må formode at disse stier udelukkende er beregnet til fodgængere. Dvs at hvis man ikke decideret arbejder på kirkegården må man ikke anvende cykler eller andre køretøjer, bortset fra måske barnevogne eller rullestole. Derfor vil jeg mene at footway er det korrekte at bruge her. Vejtyper klassificeres ikke efter underlaget, men efter anvendelse (cirka... det kan være noget forvirrende). Vi har jo masser af unclassified residential både med og uden asfalt og i tredje verdens lande kan man finde masser af rene jordveje der er klassificeret som både secondary primary fordi de faktisk er de primære færdselsårer mellem diverse byer/områder. == Flere oplysninger om ændringssættet kan findes på http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33464086 ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk -- Niels Elgaard Larsen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-GB] Urban Traffic Control Management
Hi everyone At mappamercia we're collaborating with Birmingham City Council to map their urban traffic control management systems (e.g linking together traffic signals; traffic sensor positions; and lanes being monitored.) Once we've got the data tagged suitably and we've added the data to a pilot junction system, it will be used to test build a prototype application which will eventually be a platform for public display of live traffic flows and potentially used for asset management. The overall programme is marketed as part of the move towards Smart Cities and as an early proof-of-concept for sensor networks that will increasingy be part of the internet-of things. All of which score highly for buzzword bingo, but more importantly for attracting funding. Naturally we're delighted to be faced with a new challenge and to be working with Birmingham City Council. Locally we've examined the UTC data and systems logic with City Council staff, discussed it amongst local mappers and have produced a tagging schema and partially completed an initial test edit with BCC highway engineers to see if it fits. Once we're happy with the pilot and software proof-of-concept BCC will enter the remainder of the data. We've documented it on the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia/UTC and would appreciate any constructive comments, particularly as other councils might want to do similar things in the near future and the schema might need to scale up beyond a local Birmingham initiative. You'll need to invest some time and brain capacity to get to grips with it. We've made it verbose at this early stage on the basis it's easier to omit things later than to add them in to a structure that might not be able to cope. NB mapping this stuff can ONLY be done with access to local authority UTC asset data AND the assistance of a highway engineer(trying to make sense of which cut lines for the induction loops in the tarmac approaching traffic signals are which system, whether they're live and which signal they link to needs one of these experts). Whether other councils will want to engage the local OSM community or just do it on their own remains to be seen Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů
Ahoj, peclive sleduji i toto vlakno a tak nejak jsem nafotil par rozcestniku. A uvedomil jsem si, ze nevim vlastne k cemu to je a zda (v souvislosti s ucelem) existuje nejaky pozadavek, jak to ma byt nafoceno (sirka, vyska, rozliseni, vse na jednom snimku, GPS v EXIFu...). Je mozna nejaka elementarni edukace? Mate-li dojem, ze matek tematu co rici, prosim soukrome do mailu vop seznam cz - vysledek bych zpracoval jako Tema pro WekklyOSM... S diky! vop -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 24. 8. 2015 17:28:29 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů Dne 24.8.2015 v 09:35 Michal Grézl napsal(a): 2015-08-18 22:19 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral a href='mailto:mky...@email.cz'mky...@email.cz/a: -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Michal Grézl a href='mailto:michal.gr...@openstreetmap.cz'michal.gr...@openstreetmap.cz/a Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic a href='mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org'talk-cz@openstreetmap.org/a Datum: 18. 8. 2015 20:54:11 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů Je to původní (nic moc) verze. Je v plánu ji předělat a rozcestníky přesunout jinam. Možná Wikimedia commons nebo Mappilary nebo ještě někam úplně jinam. male doplneni, rozcestniky neni v planu nikam presouvat, je v planu udelat export do jinych sluzeb Omlouvám se za nepřesnost ;-) Já zkoušel upload na Mappilary a následný export na Wikimedia commons. Rozcestníku jsem pak fotku přidal přes tag wikimedia_commons. Přijde mi fajn ji tam mít. Teď ještě, aby někdo podporoval zobrazení té fotky. Případně by to chtělo pouvažovat, jak těch fotek přidat více. Někdy jedna nestačí. zobrazovadlo rozcestniku umi zobrazovat rozcestniky z commons, jen musi byt spravne zarazene do kategorie. No právě. V tom trochu plavu. Export z mapillary to někam prásknul a teď nevím, co na wikimedia commons s tím. Jak dál. Zobrazovadlo fungovalo. Ted uz nefunguje, nebot zrusili toolserver.org (pred rokem;) Pokud bude nahrada tak to opravim. Na commons je treba to akorat nahrat a pridat do podkategorie zde: a href='https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_the_Czech_Republic_by_region'https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_the_Czech_Republic_by_region/a Přidal jsem do https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hiking_and_ footpath_fingerposts_in_Brunt%C3%A1l_District (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_Brunt%C3%A1l_District) , ale v tom comboboxu vpravo tu kategorii stejně nenajdu. Je tam jen T - Moravian-Silesian Region. Žádné podkategorie jako jinde. Ale to je jen takový detail, stejně se to bude předělávat ;-) Marián Více by se mi líbila podpora tagu wikimedia_commons. Není třeba hledat v jiné databázi, odkaz na ten správný soubor je přímo u osm uzlu. Osobně bych uvítal nějaký nástroj, který to nahraje přímo na wikimedia commons (a eventuálně i na Mapillary) a vyplivne mi text, který pak přidám k rozcestníku. A nebo ještě lépe - upravit wikipedia josm plugin, aby pracoval i s daty wikimedia commons. presne tohle je v planu První, druhé nebo oboje? :-D Hlavne prvni, to druhe by bylo taky fajn. Ja bych chtel plugin obecny, co by podporoval geojson, nebo georss. To by mi umoznilo vcelku jednoduse udelat podporu pro josm primo z me db. Tohle si sem pridam abych nezapomel, jsou tam uzitecne veci: a href='https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_tools'https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_tools/a Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů
Dne 24.8.2015 v 21:17 Petr Vozdecký napsal(a): A uvedomil jsem si, ze nevim vlastne k cemu to je a zda (v souvislosti s ucelem) existuje nejaky pozadavek, jak to ma byt nafoceno (sirka, vyska, rozliseni, vse na jednom snimku, GPS v EXIFu...). Je mozna nejaka elementarni edukace? Mate-li dojem, ze matek tematu co rici, prosim soukrome do mailu vop seznam cz - vysledek bych zpracoval jako Tema pro WekklyOSM... +1 Plus by me zajimalo co znamenaji ta ruzna mala pismenka v rozich tech rozcestniku. Mirek ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?
I've done rural bits and pieces in Rutland on and off over the years* and would certainly be up for more mapping there. The tricky bit I suspect might be finding a mutually acceptable weekend before the clocks go back, though even afterwards some sort of combination of "rural stuff during the day, town/village pois at night" may work.Cheers,Andy* I had a look at Rutland in ITO's OSM Mapper and, apart from a couple of locals it's very much a case of "the usual suspects"! ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů
2015-08-18 22:19 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral mky...@email.cz: -- Původní zpráva -- Od: Michal Grézl michal.gr...@openstreetmap.cz Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 18. 8. 2015 20:54:11 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů Je to původní (nic moc) verze. Je v plánu ji předělat a rozcestníky přesunout jinam. Možná Wikimedia commons nebo Mappilary nebo ještě někam úplně jinam. male doplneni, rozcestniky neni v planu nikam presouvat, je v planu udelat export do jinych sluzeb Omlouvám se za nepřesnost ;-) Já zkoušel upload na Mappilary a následný export na Wikimedia commons. Rozcestníku jsem pak fotku přidal přes tag wikimedia_commons. Přijde mi fajn ji tam mít. Teď ještě, aby někdo podporoval zobrazení té fotky. Případně by to chtělo pouvažovat, jak těch fotek přidat více. Někdy jedna nestačí. zobrazovadlo rozcestniku umi zobrazovat rozcestniky z commons, jen musi byt spravne zarazene do kategorie. No právě. V tom trochu plavu. Export z mapillary to někam prásknul a teď nevím, co na wikimedia commons s tím. Jak dál. Zobrazovadlo fungovalo. Ted uz nefunguje, nebot zrusili toolserver.org (pred rokem;) Pokud bude nahrada tak to opravim. Na commons je treba to akorat nahrat a pridat do podkategorie zde: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_the_Czech_Republic_by_region Více by se mi líbila podpora tagu wikimedia_commons. Není třeba hledat v jiné databázi, odkaz na ten správný soubor je přímo u osm uzlu. Osobně bych uvítal nějaký nástroj, který to nahraje přímo na wikimedia commons (a eventuálně i na Mapillary) a vyplivne mi text, který pak přidám k rozcestníku. A nebo ještě lépe - upravit wikipedia josm plugin, aby pracoval i s daty wikimedia commons. presne tohle je v planu První, druhé nebo oboje? :-D Hlavne prvni, to druhe by bylo taky fajn. Ja bych chtel plugin obecny, co by podporoval geojson, nebo georss. To by mi umoznilo vcelku jednoduse udelat podporu pro josm primo z me db. Tohle si sem pridam abych nezapomel, jsou tam uzitecne veci: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload_tools Marián -- Michal Grézl http://openstreetmap.cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Bächen als waterway=ditch
On Monday 24 August 2015, markus schnalke wrote: [...] waterway=stream: schmales Fließgewässer mit einer Breite zwischen 1 m bis 3 m. waterway=ditch: In der Regel sind diese Gräben [...] 0.5 bis 1 m breit. Guter Punkt, numerische Breitenangaben sind hier nicht Bestandteil der eigentlichen Definition und insbesondere bei ditch auch nicht eindeutig, denn es ist unklar ob es um die Breite des Grabens oder der Wasserfläche geht. Kann gut sein, dass das wesentlich zur irrtümlichen Verwendung beigetragen hat. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] rôle/fonctionnement de layers.openstreetmap.fr ?
Bonjour, On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 08:51:32AM +0200, Art Penteur wrote: Il y a quelque temps, à l'url http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/, on accédait à une carte, avec plusieurs couches disponibles, dont celle liée à BANO. Ça devrait maintenant être réparé. Il y avait en fait deux bugs à corriger (DNS, et VM qui n'avait pas démarré correctement). Merci d'avoir reporté le problème. -- Jocelyn ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?
I'm up for this Brian On 22 August 2015 at 13:23, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: I'm just back from my annual trip to the Rutland Bird Fair. Each time I'm struck by the fact that Rutland still needs a lot of ground survey work for OSM. Oakham for instance has a prodigious number of new houses, the PRoW network is pretty incomplete, and there are lots of other details missing in villages. Next year will be 10 years since the big Rutland Mapping Party http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Rutland_England/2006_Rutland_Mapping_Party. Might it be fun to reprise it and make Rutland best mapped countryside in UK? Obviously another alternative would be reprise the Isle of Wight Workshop http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Isle_of_Wight_workshop_2006. Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] highway et limites administratives confondues
Précisons que ça ne s'applique qu'aux cantons urbains, comprenant un bout seulement de la commune principale (et éventuellement des communes complètes). Ces cantons sont ceux nommés commune principale-NUMÉRO. Car les cantons ruraux sont généralement composés de communes entières. Ce qui fait qu'au final, on se retrouve à appliquer les 2 modes de découpage, pour un même canton... Francescu Le 23 août 2015 17:42, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Les limites administratives des communes ne sont en général pas liées à la voirie ou autre objet physique, par contre, les cantons intra-communaux étant définis par les rues (dans le JORF), ça me semble logique de s'appuyer sur leur géométries... même si effectivement ça peut paraitre incohérent dans la modélisation OSM c'est cohérent avec la définition d'origine de ces limites. Le 23/08/2015 12:11, Nicolas Dumoulin a écrit : Le vendredi 21 août 2015 11:55:08 Francescu GAROBY a écrit : Pour la différenciation entre highways et limites administratives, la tendance ici est à séparer les 2 (personnellement, je trouve ça dommage, mais bon...). Mais du coup, JOSM râle, en effet ! Juste pour pinailler : c'est la tendance pour les limites administratives … sauf pour les limites de cantons qui doivent s'appuyer sur les rues empruntées. Je trouve tout ça pas hyper logique et cohérent, mais bon je suis (de suivre) le consensus (oulà, qu'est-ce que j'écris moi !) -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Francescu ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] Preserving History ...
I'm talking basically about the UK here but I know of similar examples in the States and Australia and I assume the same rules can be applied world wide. There are a large number of structures currently mapped that require prior knowledge to establish their existence and previous usage. Railways, canals, buildings and even ancient track-ways. Some of those routes are protected so that new work has to maintain the viability of the original. Some are currently used as leisure routes again to maintain the possibility at some time in the future the original use can be restored, and some railways and canals HAVE been restored since OSM started mapping them. So 'abandoned' may not be the right tag, but neither is 'dismantled'. They both have a legitimate value though if only for the appreciative user. These structures/objects should be protected on the map as they often are in law. Now we come to those situations where an existing object has been replaced by a new one. One where substantial detail exists on the map currently but which OVER A PERIOD OF TIME evolves from one structure to another. There is an outline beyond which nothing changes and elements within that may be protected much as already described. We can ignore the work until it's completed, or because of the period of time that work takes we can map the changes as they happen so routing software is aware of the current situation. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.3790/-1.4692 is a perfect example, where a small roundabout has evolved into a much larger one, but the new through route is still being excavated. The problem with this is while it is a good approximation of how work is progressing, many of the original roads have been deleted and replaced and all the history relating to them lost. Because 'it's easier to delete and start again' is encouraged rather than 'preserve the history of development' where someone HAS already spent the time doing that in the past so much is being lost! Nothing changed on the ground in 2012 so why was the A46 deleted? The work over three years has been carried out by using the pre-2012 roads and while the work has evolved beyond that now, the historic record WAS more accurate. All I am asking is that people respect the work that has already been done, and that THE SYSTEM makes sure that the historic record is not destroyed because it is easier just to delete something and redraw it. Going back through the history now and finding the original Tollbar Roundabout history is now a lot of work, but equally, the current roads are not an accurate reflection of what is on the ground. Phase 4 is due to come into effect now, with the new bridges in use and that can probably improved with actual GPS tracks once the new routes are open, but the date of that changeover should be recoded as the old routes are removed and the new ones upgraded from 'construction' ... the date the data is actually changed is academic, but the prep work with a future start date is what SHOULD happen, just as the underpass route should become available in June next year. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] liens cassés ?
Bonjour, On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 09:54:05PM +0200, Jean-Yvon Landrac wrote: depuis quelques temps la couche carte humanitaire d'openstreetmap.org ne s'affiche pas. Une autre modification des serveurs OpenStreetMap France ? Est-ce que tu peux préciser sur quel site tu vois un problème ? De mon côté, ça a l'air de marcher correctement. Merci, Jocelyn ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails
On 24/08/2015 7:25 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 24/08/2015, Balaco Baco balacob...@imap.cc wrote: buildings are usually replaced much faster than maps are expected to last, and the work of updating it twice, once for the empty space, dem. building and the future new building outline is better done only one time. It's nice to avoid unecessary version churn, but if a mapper keeps up with the real-world changes there's nothing wrong with updating OSM too. If you search the archives you'll find plenty of discussions on mapping temporary features and how ephemeral a feature needs to be before it loses its mapworthyness. For example a road closed during a weekend is a clear no-map, but construction work is usually considered mappable if it'll last a few months and there is a local mapper to keep track of the updates. how long a map is expected to last is a tricky question especially for OSM. Paper maps are often updated yearly but kept for decades in people's homes. I have an old map passed down though the family .. 1860s .. still has features present today. Some features have gone, some replaced with new structures, a few moved. While the intention was a map ... back then there was little though given to how long it would last .. well worn and folded many times it has lasted well. The scale varies, hand drawn and then printed on a printing press. Would I map its features into OSM? No, most would not be interested, some would be confused by them, some would not believe some features. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Reply-to header
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AFAIK this is the standard mailman configuration and not different from other lists. the reply-to you mention is mot in every mail from this list, but only in those which are from this person. that's expected. You should respect netiquette and make a new thread when starting a new topic. Don't just hit reply on a random email from the list and change subject. m. On 2015년 08월 24일 13:53, Balaco Baco wrote: P. S.: this mailing list does not add a Reply-to header to mail messages, as I'm used to. So I initially sent the answer to just one person. This should be changed - may it not confuse the majority of users!? It normally does, not sure what happened here. All messages I received from OSM list does not have the reply-to header with the list address. And to make sure of this, now I just opened 10 of them, among the most recent, and checked their full headers. Only one of those messages contain a reply-to header, and it is not the list address. It is: Reply-To: j...@jfeldredge.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlXaw8MACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6KcRwCdFGV4HTFd366usvN4FiXGTvzs DFcAoIC2uk+9PxcJqoAafIfxr8boSr3m =umHH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Meetup
Well, I just scheduled a little hackaton in Gent: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/224843744/ If our newest Ruben wants something less hacky and more beery, I can set up a date for another Gent or Antwerp meetup. First week of October perhaps? 2015-08-21 13:20 GMT+02:00 Ruben De Smet ruben.de.s...@glycos.org: Ruben Maes wrote: As part of the still ongoing manual welcome new mappers effort, I just welcomed Ruben. He joined the Meetup group and would like to attend one. Any plans for an upcoming one? Haha, this is funny. Just subscribed to this list. I should mention I have exams until the 1st of September and I'm probably leaving for a holiday too. Keep me posted ;-) Greetings, Ruben -- The field from of an email is about as reliable as the address written on the back of an envelope. Use OpenPGP to verify that this message is sent by me. You can find my public key in the public directories, like pool.sks-keyservers.net. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Joost @ Openstreetmap http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/ | Twitter https://twitter.com/joostjakob | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603 | Meetup http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/ | Reddit https://www.reddit.com/u/joostjakob | Wordpress https://joostschouppe.wordpress.com/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/ is down?
Ça a été corrigé. Par contre la sur-couche Pas de ref (sauf tertiary) semble ne pas fonctionner. Les dalles n'affichent aucune image. Le 24 août 2015 10:28, Jean-Claude Repetto jrepe...@free.fr a écrit : Le 24/08/2015 09:31, adrien carpentier a écrit : hello impossible de me connecter sur http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/ depuis qqs jours, quelqu'un sait ce qu'il se passe? merci adrien Oui, voir les messages de vendredi sur cette liste. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rencontre parisienne OSM
On que deux à aller à cette AFK ? C'est donc un diner en amoureux ? ;) Allez les parigos motivez-vous pour sortir de chez vous ! 2015-08-22 8:33 GMT+02:00 Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr: I'm in. Le 21 août 2015 19:23, Donat ROBAUX dona...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Si vous êtes parisien, francilen ou que vous êtes de passage sur la capitale, nous vous proposons de nous rencontrer mardi 25 août 2015 à partir de 19h et ca se passe là (Restaurant Chez Papa) http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2695378308 Donat ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Catégories réperoire FINESS
Normalement pour les hôpitaux ça dépend de l'importance et du type de services: - Etablissements relevant de la loi hospitalière. - Autres établissements de soins et de prévention. - Autres établissements à caractère sanitaire. - Etablissements et services sociaux d'accueil, hébergement, assistance, réadaptation. - Etablissements et services sociaux d'aide à la famille. - Etablissements de formation des personnels sanitaires et sociaux. La nomenclature décompose les catégories d'établissements et pas d'entités juridiques. Chaque établissement a un SIRET. Il me semble que la décomposition entre FINESS et APE n'est pas identique et n'est pas renseignée pour tous les établissements - début en 2009. J'ai pas trouvé de définition. La page semble vide. Peut être qu'utiliser le formulaire de contact permettrait d'avoir un pdf complet. Les sous décompositions sont vraiment multiples et il est difficile de choisir une catégorie car hors nomenclature mis en pièce jointe il n'y a pas plus de détail explicatif. Par contre partir du code dans FINESS pour mettre des tag OSM semble une bonne chose encore faut-il ne pas se tromper sur la définition. Je suis pas sur que l'on ai le détail dans OSM pour avoir une telle précision pour toutes les catégories d'établissements. Y a t-il un groupe de travail sur la question? On peut aussi ouvrir une discussion sur le sujet pour les catégories problématiques (s'il y en a) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR_talk:Key:type:FR:FINESS Le 24 août 2015 10:21, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : J'ai exploré FINESS ces dernières semaines. Difficile d'y retrouver certains établissements comme les hopitaux. Les catégories ne sont pas bien précises ni documentées... il y a du neuf ? Le 24/08/2015 00:26, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Désolé si ca concerne peu de monde, mais une nouvelle nomenclature sur les catégories d'établissements ayant trait à la santé (le fameux FINESS) vient de sortir au 24/08/2015. Je l'ai vu par hasard. Je regarderai dans la semaine si il y a de grosses (et d'autres) modif. Je viens d'essayer de modifier la page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:type:FR:FINESS http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:type:FR:FINESS, mais le langage wiki de tableur est un peu trop élaboré pour moi. [image: ] Il faudra faire un switch de valeur de tag, mais rien de presse. Il y a en tout cas, toutes les maisons de retraite à switcher. Donat ___ Talk-fr mailing listTalk-fr@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr Categorie.établissement (2).pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rencontre parisienne OSM
S'il vous plaît pour le coup faites comme les lyonnais; un message (et un seul qui ne demande pas de réponses sur la liste) posté sur cette liste qui invite ceux qui ne suive pas le wiki d'y lire les informations à cette réunion. Ainsi cela évite d'arroser des boîtes mails de personnes qui n'y sont pas concernés et c'est la majorité des lecteurs de la liste. Il s'agit de la moindre des choses. Pour rappel il existe une liste local-...@listes.openstreetmap.fr pour organiser des rencontres; De plus il est possible d'ajouter (ou de faire ajouter) un évènement sur le site openstreetmap.fr et en page d'accueil du wiki openstreetmap.org. Faites un effort comme ça que font les lyonnais ;) Florian Le Lundi 24 août 2015 11h49, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : On que deux à aller à cette AFK ? C'est donc un diner en amoureux ? ;) Allez les parigos motivez-vous pour sortir de chez vous ! 2015-08-22 8:33 GMT+02:00 Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr: I'm in. Le 21 août 2015 19:23, Donat ROBAUX dona...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Si vous êtes parisien, francilen ou que vous êtes de passage sur la capitale, nous vous proposons de nous rencontrer mardi 25 août 2015 à partir de 19h et ca se passe là (Restaurant Chez Papa) http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2695378308 Donat ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- FlorianLainez @overflorian -- FlorianLainez @overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/ is down?
oups pas vus les messages de vendredi, mais ça ne marche toujours pas chez moi... enfin, it works! ;-) Le 24 août 2015 11:34, Jérôme Seigneuret jseigneuret-...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Ça a été corrigé. Par contre la sur-couche Pas de ref (sauf tertiary) semble ne pas fonctionner. Les dalles n'affichent aucune image. Le 24 août 2015 10:28, Jean-Claude Repetto jrepe...@free.fr a écrit : Le 24/08/2015 09:31, adrien carpentier a écrit : hello impossible de me connecter sur http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/ depuis qqs jours, quelqu'un sait ce qu'il se passe? merci adrien Oui, voir les messages de vendredi sur cette liste. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Catégories réperoire FINESS
J'ai exploré FINESS ces dernières semaines. Difficile d'y retrouver certains établissements comme les hopitaux. Les catégories ne sont pas bien précises ni documentées... il y a du neuf ? Le 24/08/2015 00:26, Donat ROBAUX a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Désolé si ca concerne peu de monde, mais une nouvelle nomenclature sur les catégories d'établissements ayant trait à la santé (le fameux FINESS) vient de sortir au 24/08/2015. Je l'ai vu par hasard. Je regarderai dans la semaine si il y a de grosses (et d'autres) modif. Je viens d'essayer de modifier la page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:type:FR:FINESS, mais le langage wiki de tableur est un peu trop élaboré pour moi. Il faudra faire un switch de valeur de tag, mais rien de presse. Il y a en tout cas, toutes les maisons de retraite à switcher. Donat ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/ is down?
Le 24/08/2015 09:31, adrien carpentier a écrit : hello impossible de me connecter sur http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/ depuis qqs jours, quelqu'un sait ce qu'il se passe? merci adrien Oui, voir les messages de vendredi sur cette liste. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Lenteurs sur rendu BANO, mise à jour FANTOIR et BAN
Depuis quelques temps le rendu BANO n'était pas des plus réactif, certaines tuiles mettaient plusieurs dizaines de secondes à être générées. J'ai identifié les requêtes postgres en cause et corrigé le tir, ça devrait aller beaucoup mieux ! Le fichier FANTOIR a aussi été rechargé avec la dernière version sortie début août, et les adresses BAN (en gris) ont aussi été remises à jour. Elle le seront automatiquement dorénavant vu le rythme hebdomadaire de mise à jour de la BAN. -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-it] mapping party mozzecane - terza edizione
Ciao, segnalo che il LUG di Villafranca-Mozzecane organizza per sabato 12 settembre 2015 alle 9.00 il terzo mapping party. Tutte le info qui: http://linuxludus.it/mappiamo-mozzecane-terza-edizione-2015-openstreetmap/ Davide -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/mapping-party-mozzecane-terza-edizione-tp5853025.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Meetup
I just checked my schedule (saw the hackaton appear on meetup) and the week of the 24th, my University (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, the Flemish version of FOSDEM's university Université Libre de Bruxelles/ULB) sessions start again. I saw the 25th, I have a college to attend at 8 o'clock. I could come by and have a look, although my attendace would be short. I don't mind hacky nor beery by the way. Both of them are great. Apparently I have college every day at 8:00, except for Wednesdays, where I only start at 13 o'clock. I'm near Antwerp for the weekends and in Brussels for the weeks. I can probably get something organised at the Etterbeek campus too. Ruben joost schouppe wrote: Well, I just scheduled a little hackaton in Gent: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/224843744/ If our newest Ruben wants something less hacky and more beery, I can set up a date for another Gent or Antwerp meetup. First week of October perhaps? 2015-08-21 13:20 GMT+02:00 Ruben De Smet ruben.de.s...@glycos.org: Ruben Maes wrote: As part of the still ongoing manual welcome new mappers effort, I just welcomed Ruben. He joined the Meetup group and would like to attend one. Any plans for an upcoming one? Haha, this is funny. Just subscribed to this list. I should mention I have exams until the 1st of September and I'm probably leaving for a holiday too. Keep me posted ;-) Greetings, Ruben -- The field from of an email is about as reliable as the address written on the back of an envelope. Use OpenPGP to verify that this message is sent by me. You can find my public key in the public directories, like pool.sks-keyservers.net. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Joost @ Openstreetmap http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/ | Twitter https://twitter.com/joostjakob | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603 | Meetup http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/ | Reddit https://www.reddit.com/u/joostjakob | Wordpress https://joostschouppe.wordpress.com/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Meetup
Dear Joost Ruben, Thanks for the idea and the organization. I am in Brussels during the week. During the week-end, I can move. I can help with the organization of a beery activity around Etterbeek or Ixelles. The campus of ESI (very close to Central station in Brussels) is accessible on Saturday mornings as we did last year. Best regards, Nicolas Le 2015-08-24 11:10, Ruben De Smet a écrit : I just checked my schedule (saw the hackaton appear on meetup) and the week of the 24th, my University (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, the Flemish version of FOSDEM's university Université Libre de Bruxelles/ULB) sessions start again. I saw the 25th, I have a college to attend at 8 o'clock. I could come by and have a look, although my attendace would be short. I don't mind hacky nor beery by the way. Both of them are great. Apparently I have college every day at 8:00, except for Wednesdays, where I only start at 13 o'clock. I'm near Antwerp for the weekends and in Brussels for the weeks. I can probably get something organised at the Etterbeek campus too. -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une Société libre utilise des outils libres ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?
Well IoW is obviously easier for me but a) I suspect I'm in a minority there and b) to be quite honest it looks pretty much complete from the POV of ROWs. Rutland would also be somewhere new for me so would be potentially interested. However my preference would be not to have it in October (when the original party happened) due to work commitments, but instead some time between Apr-Sep inclusive, which has the advantage of more daylight. Nick From: Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com Sent: 24 August 2015 07:54 To: SK53 Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party? I'm up for this Brian On 22 August 2015 at 13:23, SK53 sk53@gmail.commailto:sk53@gmail.com wrote: I'm just back from my annual trip to the Rutland Bird Fair. Each time I'm struck by the fact that Rutland still needs a lot of ground survey work for OSM. Oakham for instance has a prodigious number of new houses, the PRoW network is pretty incomplete, and there are lots of other details missing in villages. Next year will be 10 years since the big Rutland Mapping Partyhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Rutland_England/2006_Rutland_Mapping_Party. Might it be fun to reprise it and make Rutland best mapped countryside in UK? Obviously another alternative would be reprise the Isle of Wight Workshophttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Isle_of_Wight_workshop_2006. Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.orgmailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO VS OSM
Même au sein d'une commune, il y a rarement un référentiel des noms de voie qui tienne la route (!). Ce genre de travail est plus l'exception que la règle. Il n'y a pas actuellement d'outil permettent aux communex d'alimenter directement un référentiel national, du coup elles sont sollicitées par plein de monde comme La Poste, les éditeurs de cartographie pour GPS (Tomtom, Here) et autres. Les seules obligations de diffusion des noms de voie et adresses concernent: - la DGFiP pour les communes de plus de 2000 habitants - la DGFiP et l'INSEE pour celles de plus de 1 habitants En dessous de 2000, aucune obligation à part le contrôle de légalité en préfecture qui ne porte que sur la forme de toute délibération du conseil municipal et n'a aucun lien direct avec notre sujet. On est très loin d'être organisé ! Je doute de l'efficacité (et de l'accueil) si OSM sollicitait les communes directement. Je vois la difficulté qu'a par exemple La Poste pour que l'info viennent naturellement des communes. Il faut organiser une collecte unique, systématique, permanente et c'est ce qu'on essaye de faire dans le cadre de la BAN. Le 23/08/2015 23:08, Nicolas Pettiaux a écrit : Bonjour, Christian indique que la source d'autorité est la commune. Il y a beaucoup de communes en France. Ne serait-il pas intéressant de regarder les 3 communes dans lesquelles il y a le plus de petites différences et préparer des rencontres personnelles par des membres de OSM qui s'intéressent à Bano (ou l'équipe de Bano) avec les représentants de ces 3 communes pour essayer de mettre en avant des propositions de solutions qui puissent convenir à tout le monde pour établir UNE seule source d'autorité qui soit respectueuse des communes ? (si c'est possible dans un grand nombre de cas) Bonne soirée, Nicolas Le 2015-08-23 12:26, Christian Quest a écrit : Le 23/08/2015 11:30, Aurélien a écrit : J'en ai catalogué différents types : 1) BANO : La rue des Mésanges - OSM : Rue des mésanges 2) BANO : L'Arbre de Guise - OSM : Rue de l'Arbre de Guise 3) BANO : Rue de l'Escalier Royal - OSM : Escalier Royal Ce n'est pas bien méchant mais peut-être que nous pouvons établir un ensemble de règles syntaxiques afin de créer un process de correction automatique ? Et comment déterminer qui est correct ? Les données BANO issues du cadastres peuvent comporter des erreurs... le cadastre n'est pas parfait et n'est pas une source d'autorité (c'est uniquement la commune qui l'est). Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be mailto:nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work mailto:Open@work - Une Société libre utilise des outils libres -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] Reply-to header
On 24/08/15 08:12, Max wrote: You should respect netiquette and make a new thread when starting a new topic. Don't just hit reply on a random email from the list and change subject. If quoting of messages was better managed it would be easier to follow things. The p.s. was part of the original thread so not just a 'random email' ... The problem is that just as everybody has their own opinions over OSM data, they also have different ways of replying to emails. Not helped by each client application enforcing it's own preferences. Some clients will be listing the change of subject as separate thread, some not, and so the mess goes on. Sometimes I can hit 'reply to list' and just get the list address other times it's 'reply all' and find the list as a 'cc' so it's not the list which has a problem ... it's the whole process :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?
+1 From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] Sent: 24 August 2015 09:17 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party? Well IoW is obviously easier for me but a) I suspect I'm in a minority there and b) to be quite honest it looks pretty much complete from the POV of ROWs. Rutland would also be somewhere new for me so would be potentially interested. However my preference would be not to have it in October (when the original party happened) due to work commitments, but instead some time between Apr-Sep inclusive, which has the advantage of more daylight. Nick _ From: Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com Sent: 24 August 2015 07:54 To: SK53 Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party? I'm up for this Brian On 22 August 2015 at 13:23, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: I'm just back from my annual trip to the Rutland Bird Fair. Each time I'm struck by the fact that Rutland still needs a lot of ground survey work for OSM. Oakham for instance has a prodigious number of new houses, the PRoW network is pretty incomplete, and there are lots of other details missing in villages. Next year will be 10 years since the big Rutland Mapping Party http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Rutland_England/2006_Rutland _Mapping_Party . Might it be fun to reprise it and make Rutland best mapped countryside in UK? Obviously another alternative would be reprise the Isle of Wight Workshop http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Isle_of_Wight_workshop_2006 . Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails
On 24/08/2015, Balaco Baco balacob...@imap.cc wrote: buildings are usually replaced much faster than maps are expected to last, and the work of updating it twice, once for the empty space, dem. building and the future new building outline is better done only one time. It's nice to avoid unecessary version churn, but if a mapper keeps up with the real-world changes there's nothing wrong with updating OSM too. If you search the archives you'll find plenty of discussions on mapping temporary features and how ephemeral a feature needs to be before it loses its mapworthyness. For example a road closed during a weekend is a clear no-map, but construction work is usually considered mappable if it'll last a few months and there is a local mapper to keep track of the updates. how long a map is expected to last is a tricky question especially for OSM. Paper maps are often updated yearly but kept for decades in people's homes. Google Map has TOS that mostly forbid cacheing data yourself for later. Data on osm.org is updated minutely, but the osm data on a satnav may never get an update at all. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rencontre parisienne OSM
Bonjour Florian(s), De: Otourly Wiki otou...@yahoo.fr S'il vous plaît pour le coup faites comme les lyonnais; un message (et un seul qui ne demande pas de réponses sur la liste) posté sur cette liste qui invite ceux qui ne suive pas le wiki d'y lire les informations à cette réunion. Ainsi cela évite d'arroser des boîtes mails de personnes qui n'y sont pas concernés et c'est la majorité des lecteurs de la liste. Il s'agit de la moindre des choses. Pour rappel il existe une liste local-...@listes.openstreetmap.fr pour organiser des rencontres; De plus il est possible d'ajouter (ou de faire ajouter) un évènement sur le site openstreetmap.fr et en page d'accueil du wiki openstreetmap.org. Faites un effort comme ça que font les lyonnais ;) Vue sa très faible activité, la liste local-idf a été volontairement mise en sommeil en décembre 2013 suite à ce dernier fil : http://listes.openstreetmap.fr/wws/arc/local-idf/2013-12/msg0.html Elle est remplacée par une section du forum : http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewforum.php?f=18 où sont postées toutes les annonces des IRL parisiennes, comme pour demain : http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewtopic.php?f=18t=2181 vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails
moltonel 3x Combo wrote: Remember that interpreting osm data is actually a lot of work. Very few people have the manpower to verify what railroad= dismantled actually mean to decide wheter they want to use or filter out that data. Most of them will just match railway=*, plus perhaps some special cases for railway=rail and railway= subway. Now they're looking at historical data without even knowing it. They are confused. Please don't make stuff up. cycle.travel's rendering is 1300 lines of CartoCSS, 1400 of .mml, 300 lines of Lua preprocessing, and 350 lines of Ruby/PostGIS postprocessing. Of this, the code required to show only operational railways is 100 characters - a rounding error. It's a detail in a 1400-character line of .mml and it was copied directly from OSM-Bright, the base style used by switch2osm. In other words, anyone setting up an OSM tileserver from the canonical instructions already gets this for free. There are plenty of issues with OSM railway tagging that make decent rendering, routing and analysis hard. (railway=station covering both mainline stations and preserved heritage attractions is the first that springs to mind.) railway=dismantled is not one of them. As to whether utterly dismantled railways belong in the OSM database, I couldn't really care less. In terms of doctrine, they probably don't, though let's not overstate the issue: I suspect more bytes have been spilled in this thread than it would take to encode a dump of current railway=dismantled in .pbf format. But Gregory, Greg and Jason have it right. This is not about some precious notion of purity, it's about community. Outside the two fundamentals of openly licensed and crowdsourced, OSM is characterised by its pragmatism. We do what works. What works is a community of people who feel respected and empowered. And bearing in mind that we're talking about the US here, we need all the community we can get. Read Minh Nguyen's excellent new diary post (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Minh%20Nguyen/diary/35646). Even in the super-affluent, super-educated Bay Area, OSM is barely at the stage that Europe reached five or more years ago. It is an endless parade of outdated street configurations, missing landmarks, test edits. But, he notes, there is plenty of rail and bike infrastructure. This is what characterised OSM adoption here in Britain. The enthusiasts are the first to get it: the railfans, the cyclists. Widespread take-up comes later, once the enthusiasts have built something good. The last thing we want to do in the US is drive away the few enthusiasts we currently have. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Re-Abandoned-Rails-tp5852866p5853037.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-cz] Čištění turistických tras v OSM - fotky ukazatelů
2015-08-24 9:35 GMT+02:00 Michal Grézl michal.gr...@openstreetmap.cz: Zobrazovadlo fungovalo. Ted uz nefunguje, nebot zrusili toolserver.org (pred rokem;) Pokud bude nahrada tak to opravim. Náhrada už dávno je na https://tools.wmflabs.org/kmlexport/ (např. https://tools.wmflabs.org/kmlexport/?project=commonsarticle=Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_Chomutov_District ). Ale to nucené ruční vybírání podkategorie mi přijde dost uživatelsky nepoužitelné. To chce načíst _všechny_ regiony automaticky, ne, aby uživatel musel vymýšlet, kde že to zrovna je. Pomocí https://tools.wmflabs.org/kmlexport/?project=commonsarticle=Category:Hiking_and_footpath_fingerposts_in_the_Czech_Republic_by_regionl=0 by se (snad) mělo stáhnout KML _všech_ rozcestníků pod touhle kategorií, ale to už samozřejmě není dobrý nápad dělat pro každého uživatele na straně klienta, ale chtělo by to tenhle soubor stáhnout třeba jednou denně na ten server a zpracovávat lokálně a servírovat příslušné rozcestníky automaticky. -- Petr Kadlec / Mormegil ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?
Spring next year would be my preference. Realistically I would only be able to make Rutland. If it does go ahead I wonder if we could use the Hot Tasking manager and Mapillary. Neither were presumably available in 2006. I guess there would be other tools we could use to highlight which footpaths need adding for planning etc. Dudley From: nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 08:16:50 + Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party? Well IoW is obviously easier for me but a) I suspect I'm in a minority there and b) to be quite honest it looks pretty much complete from the POV of ROWs. Rutland would also be somewhere new for me so would be potentially interested. However my preference would be not to have it in October (when the original party happened) due to work commitments, but instead some time between Apr-Sep inclusive, which has the advantage of more daylight. Nick From: Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com Sent: 24 August 2015 07:54 To: SK53 Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party? I'm up for this Brian On 22 August 2015 at 13:23, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: I'm just back from my annual trip to the Rutland Bird Fair. Each time I'm struck by the fact that Rutland still needs a lot of ground survey work for OSM. Oakham for instance has a prodigious number of new houses, the PRoW network is pretty incomplete, and there are lots of other details missing in villages. Next year will be 10 years since the big Rutland Mapping Party. Might it be fun to reprise it and make Rutland best mapped countryside in UK? Obviously another alternative would be reprise the Isle of Wight Workshop. Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk-be] SOTM 2016 and meetings
Hi all, It is a long way off, but the SOTM team is getting started already. We already looked into several locations, we kind of picked a logo, we found a nice designer too. We're thinking of the VUB at the moment, because of some problems with the ULB location. And there is still a chance that we might work with the European Parliament, but that is still up in the air. For the time being, there aren't that many tasks. But it would be great to start building our volunteer network now. I think it should be quite clear that if we meet now, it will be more about ideas and community building than actually working on tasks. So we do run the risk of wearing people out with meetings without a real need (I sometimes feel the Meetups have that effect on some of us). The one exception maybe that we could start laying the foundation for a website already, Ben Abelshausen is setting up a Github space as we speak. I guess the lack of much concrete actions is why the SOTM hasn't been talking so much. As Rob mentioned today, SOTM is used to working under thight deadlines. This having-a-lot-of-time is a wholly different challenge. If anyone is feeling excluded, don't. Join. We're also going to send more frequent updates to this list from now on. To give you an idea of the kind of things will have to get done, this is from the talent matrix. Some of these task could really use a hand. Nicholas, if you can arrange the ESI on any day, I would suggest to make a Doodle with a wide variety of options (daytime, evening, weekend, weekday) to see who wants to come and what is best for everyone. Sponsorship - developing sponsorship pack / tiers Sponsorship - Local Sponsorship - International Ticket sales - coordinating Budget - bookkeeper Scholarship program Scholarship committee (to review scholarship requests) Venue (co-ordination with venue company) Accommodation Catering Social events Wi-fi access AV for presenters Video Streaming Merchandise / freebies TShirts and Lanyards Booklet / guide for attendees Brand / Design / Logo Website Communication to OSM community- twitter, blogs, etc Communication / outreach to non-OSM community (open source/data, etc) Communication / outreach for promotion (local media, newsprint etc) Call for presentations - organising / coordinating Call for presentations - initial ranking Call for presentations - programme Keynote speakers - sourcing and coordinating Non-talk content (workshops, hack events) Volunteer co-ordination Volunteer training (including Code of Conduct) Joost 2015-08-24 16:23 GMT+02:00 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com: Ah, ok, misread it then :-) Sorry for the noise Ben On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: The conference itself will be held in the venue where FOSDEM takes place. ESI is convenient for preparatory meetings, due to its location. Jo 2015-08-24 16:10 GMT+02:00 Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com: On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux nico...@pettiaux.be wrote: ESI is well located centrally, close to Central station, if has the infrastructure (as it is a computing school), and I can most probably obtain the room for free. Does it have big enough rooms? Because the pictures in the gallery on its website only show small classrooms. If a thousand people are coming we may need to have at least one auditorium that can seat a few hundred. Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Joost @ Openstreetmap http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/ | Twitter https://twitter.com/joostjakob | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603 | Meetup http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/ | Reddit https://www.reddit.com/u/joostjakob | Wordpress https://joostschouppe.wordpress.com/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-br] Edições em Sertãozinho
2015-08-24 20:14 GMT-03:00 Roger C. Soares rogersoa...@gmail.com: tracksource 15.08 ^ esse é o maior problema Ele usou o iD em todas as edições, então não importou nada diretamente do TS. O que complica é saber o que foi copiado do mapa da prefeitura (que também precisa verificar a permissão) e/ou do TS. Olhando muito por cima parece ter sido, em grande parte, nomeação de ruas. Ele consegue dizer exatamente qual fonte foi usada em qual edição? O que foi copiado precisará ser removido (redact, não apenas revertido) do OSM (ao menos o que veio do TS, caso exista permissão dos dados da prefeitura). Se não for possível separar os dados eu não vejo outra solução a não ser redact em tudo que envolva nome ou outras informações (como http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3710116764, por exemplo). ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-at] Grenzimport Wien
Andreas Labres wrote: Ich nehme an, dass die hier zur Diskussion stehenden Daten nicht von der Stadt Wien stammen? Doch, tun sie: https://open.wien.at/site/datensatz/?id=e4079286-310c-435a-af2d-64604ba9ade5 Die ganze Lizenzdiskussion ist nur ein Strawman, die Lizenz ist hier ganz und gar nicht das Problem. Kevin Kofler ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [talk-au] Unauthorised bike trails in national parks
Tony, In regards to item 10, the photo that I have referenced is from the intersection of Granite and Abrahams tracks, which is un marked(no sign), only wheel ruts/indents in the grass to indicate the intersection. If I understood correctly, the access requirements you have described for Ant Track, are better suited to an access=no tag, vs the individual tagging of uses currently applied. (This is in line with the signs on the entry to the park and the description of a formed track from your email below.) That is my 2 cents, not fussed either way, just prefered it to be clear what the access/use requirements are. Stephen. Sent:Monday, August 24, 2015 at 2:52 PM From:fors...@ozonline.com.au To:talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject:Re: [talk-au] Unauthorised bike trails in national parks Hi all Thanks for the delay while I contacted Parks Vic. Parks Vic have confirmed that Ant Trail is closed to the public for all uses as is the trail at https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/-37.93253/145.30901 stev391 proposed that my edit should be reverted as he says: (1) The track is there and more well defined than other features in the area. (2) OSM is a map of what is in the world, not what copyrighted maps have stated. (3) This is a commonly used mountain bike track, with a recognised name. (4) bicycle=no requires this to be indicated in the real world. Here are my answers to these and other issues raised: (1) The track is there and more well defined than other features in the area. Ant trail is 20cm wide and consists of bare earth where bicycle traffic has killed the vegetation. It is not signposted. Conversely all the designated trails are signposted. The photo that stev391 posted in support is of the intersection of Ant Trail and Abrahams Track. Abrahams track is vehicle width and is formed, that is it was created by earthmoving equipment. Ant Trail is neither signed nor formed (no earthworks). See later in this post for more photos of this intersection. There are no designated trails that are less well defined than Ant Trail. (2) OSM is a map of what is in the world, not what copyrighted maps have stated. There is a lot of information that Ant Trail is closed to cyclists without needing to refer to copyright maps. There are signs at all the main entry points stating that only formed and designated trails can be used and that the use of informal trails is not permitted. All the designated trails are signposted. Ant Trail is not formed, signed or designated. (3) This is a commonly used mountain bike track Is it suggested that common use rather than legal status should determine the access tag? There is no credible dispute to the fact that Parks Vic has the authority to close tracks and impose penalties. This is not like Cyprus, Kosovo or Crimea where the legal authority is disputed. We have unambiguous on ground evidence that all informal trails have no legal access. (4) bicycle=no requires this to be indicated in the real world. Signs at all main entry points to the park specify that trails should be designated and formed and that informal trails should not be used. All the designated tracks are signed. Ant Trail is not formed, designated or signed, it is informal. This is real world indication. (5) If you are not allowed to ride there is a no bikes symbol Yes it does say this. It is obvious that this is badly worded. It is obviously impractical to signpost every informal trail, shortcut and animal track. The no bikes signs are only used on signed and designated walking tracks. Is it suggested that its OK to use informal bush trails up to the point that Parks notices them and puts up a sign? (6) When in doubt, also consider the on the ground rule There is no doubt in this case. Parks Vic is the undisputed responsible authority, this is not disputed territory like Cyprus, Kosovo or Crimea. Parks Vic has declared Ant Trail and other informal trails closed. There is ample evidence on the ground of this. (7) The only formed management trail is the Dargon Track ... Formed means earthworks, eg by a grader, spade or bulldozer but not necessarily graveled. Dargon, Abrahams, Sunset, Lanes tracks all fit this definition. Ant Trail is a worn trail not a formed trail. (8) Both maps on the parks site are out of date and do not show all the signed tracks, let alone the unsigned tracks... Yes the website pdf is dated 2007 and does not show The Aneurism which is a signed and designated bike track. Any unsigned tracks should not be used. The Aneurism is shown on the maps at the Horswood Rd and Hallam North Rd carparks, these signs are a few weeks old. (9) what regulation governs the restriction to ride a bike on an existing trails It is the National Parks Act. It is an offence to use a vehicle in an area not set aside for vehicles. A Bike is included in the definition of vehicle in the National Park Regulations 2013 (10) there is no sign at this intersection of the fire trails I cant view the photo at
[Talk-TW] [理事會選舉] 推薦劉俊宏
推薦人: 鄧東波(dongpo) 被推薦人: 劉俊宏 (Louis) 推薦理由: Louis 是開放街圖台灣社群中最早期圖客之一，長期管理www.openstreetmap.tw的主機，製作繁體中文版的OSM地圖，在技術方面為開放街圖台灣社群貢獻良多，也充份了解開放街圖相關事務。此外，他在全台舉辦過數次的圖客趴(Mapping party)，也參與由別的圖客發起的圖客趴，傳授自身在於資料收集和繪圖的技能。相信理事會有他加入可以幫助開放街圖台灣社群的運作與發展。 ___ Talk-TW mailing list Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw
