Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Carsten,

>> However, I have noticed that direct replies to one's messages have the
>> MSID of the replied-to message last under references - now I only need
>> some RegEx to hit on only messages where my MSID is the last in the
>> string of references.
> 
>> I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already?
> 
> ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de>\s*\n[\S\n]))
> 
> Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your
> FQDN (»adr\.dk«).

Didn't test this till today. Works a treat! Thanks :)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 4:27:10 PM, MAU wrote:

M> Smell fish in a garden? Hm, that cat! ;-)


Probably one of those _really big_ black ones we have around here
 > heading for TBOT in a hurry... am _really_ pushing my luck
here!!! ;-)

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[Anne]

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 4:24:51 PM, MAU wrote:

M> I'm not old I'm just 60 :-((


Not at all _old_ Miguel... just older than you used to be.. !!! ;-)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Anne,

> sign of getting older methinks! ;-)

I'm not old I'm just 60 :-((

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[Anne]

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 9:30:16 AM, MAU wrote:

M> Why do you need your kneecaps, do you go to church? ;-)


For kneeling weeding in the garden Miguel ;-) 

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[MAU]

Hello Anne,

> For kneeling weeding in the garden Miguel ;-)  hurry cos I can smell fish!>

Smell fish in a garden? Hm, that cat! ;-)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 9:32:48 AM, MAU wrote:

M> Mine is not a firewall issue, it is degenerative osteoarthritis ;-)


Same here Miguel... sign of getting older methinks! ;-)  

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[John Phillips]

Hi Carsten,
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, at 20:13:15 [GMT +0200] (which was 04:13 where I
live) you wrote:


> Then
> you *must* use valid e-mail addresses:


They do (or did) accept a someone@"deadspam.com" address.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> You mean this is how Miguel hurt his knee? Wow, I didn't know what
> hackers/crackers are capabable of... ;-)

Mine is not a firewall issue, it is degenerative osteoarthritis ;-)

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[MAU]

Hello Anne,

> Err not if I want to retain my kneecaps no Miguel! ;-)

Why do you need your kneecaps, do you go to church? ;-)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Anne,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:31:22 +0100 GMT (16/09/2003, 04:31 +0700 GMT),
Anne wrote:

M>> That must be it then. Can you disable/exit ZA and make a try?

> Err not if I want to retain my kneecaps no Miguel! ;-)

You mean this is how Miguel hurt his knee? Wow, I didn't know what
hackers/crackers are capabable of... ;-)

> What I will do is try it on a standalone PC that isn't on the
> network. One without any personal files, shared drives etc... I
> won't put mine online without a firewall in case it compromises
> the network.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Monday, September 15, 2003, 11:00:02 PM, Roelof wrote:

RO> It's not the word invalid, but it's that the tld (in this case
RO> 'invalid') is longer than four characters.


Ahhh right, I see... thanks for the clarification Roelof. :-)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Anne,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:25:42 +0100GMT (15-9-03, 23:25 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

DRS>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   > Could resolve and will query root DNS servers.
DRS>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---> Invalid naming convention. No resolve query.

A> You men that even though it's formatted like an e-mail address TB!
A> knows it isn't because of the invalid and doesn't make it a hotlink
A> ... ?

It's not the word invalid, but it's that the tld (in this case
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 9:14:47 PM, MAU wrote:

M> That must be it then. Can you disable/exit ZA and make a try?


Err not if I want to retain my kneecaps no Miguel! ;-)

What I will do is try it on a standalone PC that isn't on the
network. One without any personal files, shared drives etc... I
won't put mine online without a firewall in case it compromises
the network.

Thanks for the suggestion though. :-)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Sunday, September 14, 2003, 12:32:14 AM, DG wrote:

DRS> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   > Could resolve and will query root DNS servers.
DRS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---> Invalid naming convention. No resolve query.


You men that even though it's formatted like an e-mail address
TB! knows it isn't because of the invalid and doesn't make it a
hotlink ... ?

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Carsten,

Monday, September 15, 2003, 12:13:15 PM, you wrote:
CT> Even? AFAIK you use news.cis.dfn.de or news.individual.de|net. Then
CT> you *must* use valid e-mail addresses:

CT> This is off-topic, isn't it?

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Carsten Thönges]

* Thomas Fernandez writes:

[ USENET, The Bat! and MyGate ]

> I even use a valid email-address (one that I don't check very often).

Even? AFAIK you use news.cis.dfn.de or news.individual.de|net. Then
you *must* use valid e-mail addresses:

 http://news.individual.net/rules.html
 http://news.individual.net/faq.html#5.3

 http://news.cis.dfn.de/dnn/rules.html(German)
 http://news.cis.dfn.de/dnn/faq.html#5.3  (German)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Carsten Thönges]

* MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello Carsten,

 - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address
 with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the
 one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it.

>> No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you
>> should follow the rules.

> Why not Carsten? What I suggested is so that MIDs will be unique to
> _his_ messages

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello DG,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 13:02:52 -0400 GMT (16/09/2003, 00:02 +0700 GMT),
DG Raftery Sr. wrote:

Thomas>> Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference.
Thomas>> "Couuld not connect to the server."

> Port 119 outbound since you are not sending to an SMTP or POP(3)
> server?

Thanks for your input, but I hadn't set up an SMTP>NNTP gate in
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> Mahou... make another tickmark behind my name in your list. I believe
> this is not the first one I owe you. ;-)

When I add the next tickmark I'll be able to see if auto-wrap works on
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:58:29 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 16:58 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> I think you even know the beer brand I like, don't you? ;-)

Mahou... make another tickmark behind my name in your list. I believe
this is not the first one I owe you. ;-)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> Excuse for me for a moment ... 
> ... OK I'm back.

Welcome back! :-))

Sorry, I hit Send too soon.

> Yes, I have read it and started the brand-new SMTP gate manually. It
> works fine now, thanks. :-)

I think you even know the beer brand I like, don't you? ;-)

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[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> Excuse for me for a moment ... 
> ... OK I'm back.

Welcome back! :-))


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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:34:43 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 15:34 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> Have you created an SMTP>NNTP gate? A gate to _send_ mail and convert to
> news?

Excuse for me for a moment ... 
... OK I'm back.

> If so, have you started it manually? I assume you have read that
> it does not start automatically.

Yes, I have read it and started the brand-new SMTP gate manually. It
works fine now, thanks. :-)


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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[John Phillips]

Hi Sean,
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 22:25:39 [GMT +0100] (which was 07:25 where I
live) you wrote:


> I just sent him one but that has not bounced, as yet


I must be lucky - had two replies. Nay nah nah nah  :-)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Peter Fjelsten]

MAU,

On 15-09-2003 10:35, you [M] wrote in
:
M> Select the gate you want to start and do a Gate/Start :)

Exactly! 

Though I select it with the mouse and press the "play" icon... :)

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[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

>> Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set
>> it to do so. I must start it manually on every start.
>
> How do you do that?

Select the gate you want to start and do a Gate/Start :)

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[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> I have only one point where I can enter the port number:
>
> Gate / Properties / Gate / Local port.
>
> I have set this to 110, and in TB I have sent the POP port to 110, and
> it works.

I assume you refer here to a POP>NNTP gate, right? A gate to _received_
news and convert to mail, right?

> Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference.
> "Couuld not connect to the server."

Have you created an SMTP>NNTP gate? A gate to _send_ mail and convert to
news? If so, have you started it manually? I assume you have read that
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Michael,

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:51:40 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 01:51 +0700 GMT),
Michael Geyer wrote:

>> I used to use port 25, but the helpfile says I should use the same
>> port as defined for the Gate, so I use port 110. Still no success.

>> What am I doing wrong?

> There is a port number entry in the SMTP -> NNTP (likewise in POP ->
> NNTP) gate configuration. You can enter any _unused_ port on your
> machine. You have to enter _this_ port in The Bat!'s SMTP port.

I have only one point where I can enter the port number:

Gate / Properties / Gate / Local port.

I have set this to 110, and in TB I have sent the POP port to 110, and
it works.

Whether I set the SMTP port in TB to 25 or 110, makes no difference.
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Peter,

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:06:04 +0200 GMT (15/09/2003, 02:06 +0700 GMT),
Peter Fjelsten wrote:

T>> I can read but not write. TB says "Cannot connect to server". I
T>> re-read the Help on SMTP -> NNTP, but cannot get it to work.

> Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set
> it to do so. I must start it manually on every start.

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Hello Peter,

Sunday, September 14, 2003, 10:15:00 PM, you wrote:

PF> I sent him a mail (as I wrote elsewhere in the thread), but it bounces.

I received a reply from Andrew this morning:

Bug is fixed in MyGate 2.5. Release is expected by weekend.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

> Not if you make your reply template include the %TO with only the group
> you want to reply to.

For example, when I on on folder "es.charla.politica.misc" for this
newsgroup, may reply _folder_ template is:

,- [  ]
| Hola %OFromFName,
| %LANGUAGE="SP" %TO=""%TO="es.charla.politica.misc"
| El %ODate, %OTimeLong, escribiste:
| 
| %Quotes
| %Cursor
| 
| -- 
| Saludos,
|  %FromFName
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[MAU]

Hello Peter,

S>> I am finding this as well, shame the author is not on the list
>
> I sent him a mail (as I wrote elsewhere in the thread), but it bounces.

Version 2.5 is coming out very soon and it corrects the SMTP>NNTP not
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[MAU]

Hello John,

> Unfortunately when replying, sometimes the reply is cross posted,
> because the original message was cross posted.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Peter Fjelsten]

John,

On 14-09-2003 23:16, you [J] wrote in
:
J> Unfortunately when replying, sometimes the reply is cross posted,
J> because the original message was cross posted.

Then remove the other groups which is usually something you should do
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Peter Fjelsten]

Sean,

On 14-09-2003 21:33, you [S] wrote in
:
S> I am finding this as well, shame the author is not on the list

I sent him a mail (as I wrote elsewhere in the thread), but it bounces.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[John Phillips]

Hi Michael,
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 22:38:22 [GMT +0200] (which was 06:38 where I
live) you wrote:


> Not being able to crosspost is no limitation for me, I have never
> crossposted a message.



Unfortunately when replying, sometimes the reply is cross posted,
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[MAU]

Hello John,

> Worked it out.  Was, unknown to me, trying to cross post, which is not
> allowed.

Not being able to crosspost is no limitation for me, I have never
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[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> What am I doing wrong?

Have you seen Michael Geyer's reply?

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Peter Fjelsten]

Thomas,

On 14-09-2003 18:26, you [T] wrote in
:
T> I can read but not write. TB says "Cannot connect to server". I
T> re-read the Help on SMTP -> NNTP, but cannot get it to work.

Here, the SMTP service does not start automatically, although I have set
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Michael Geyer]

Hi Thomas and list,

On Sunday, September 14, 2003 at 23:26:03 GMT +0700 (which was 18:26
where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote (at least in parts) and made
these valuable points on the subject of "MyGate, newsgroups with TB
made easy":



> I used to use port 25, but the helpfile says I should use the same
> port as defined for the Gate, so I use port 110. Still no success.

> What am I doing wrong?

There is a port number entry in the SMTP -> NNTP (likewise in POP ->
NNTP) gate configuration. You can enter any _unused_ port on your
machine. You have to enter _this_ port in The Bat!'s SMTP port. 25
will work fine as long as you don't habe another program which is
listening on port 25 at localhost.

Due to AV (PCCillin), Spampal, GPGRelay which handle my
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 10:37:06 +0200 GMT (14/09/2003, 15:37 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

> I know, and I'm still using it. But Since Thomas was going to join
> now...

I can read but not write. TB says "Cannot connect to server". I
re-read the Help on SMTP -> NNTP, but cannot get it to work.
I even use a valid email-address (one that I don't check very often). I
used to use port 25, but the helpfile says I should use the same port
as defined for the Gate, so I use port 110. Still no success.

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Urban]

Sunday, September 14, 2003, Carsten Thönges wrote:

> You should never use fake addresses which are not under your control
> (like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ...), because
> *they* will receive the bounces.

Isn't example.com one of those "reserved for documentation"-domains?

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[John Phillips]

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 20:11:42 [GMT +1000] (which was 20:11 where I
live)I wrote:


> Just need a little bit of help on sending.

Worked it out.  Was, unknown to me, trying to cross post, which is not
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[John Phillips]

Hi Miguel
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 10:52:49 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:52 where I
live) you wrote:


> Yes, the last one in the series. I should have written "Filter ABC" or
> "Filter delete ABC" :)

Just need a little bit of help on sending.

I use my own SMTP server from ocloudsoft.com.

This is set up as local host, Port 25 on Bat!

I seem to be unable to send from MYGate in Bat! to any ng, cannot
connect to MyGate.

What port settings do you suggest here?

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[John Phillips]

Hi Miguel,

Buenos Noches, (well, it is here, anyway)

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 10:52:49 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:52 where I
live) you wrote:


>> Is that a separate filter?

> Yes, the last one in the series. I should have written "Filter ABC" or
> "Filter delete ABC" :)


Thanks, Works a treat!

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello John,

>> Delete ABC: If A or B or C in Recipient (use Alternatives tab)
>>Delete the message (set in Actions tab).
>
>
> Is that a separate filter?

Yes, the last one in the series. I should have written "Filter ABC" or
"Filter delete ABC" :)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[John Phillips]

Hi Michael,
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, at 10:35:34 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:35 where I
live) you wrote:


> Delete ABC: If A or B or C in Recipient (use Alternatives tab)
>Delete the message (set in Actions tab).


Is that a separate filter?

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello John,

>>  See http://news.cis.dfn.de/, they have changed names.
>
> Still will work with old name; just set it up.

I know, and I'm still using it. But Since Thomas was going to join
now...


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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello John,

>> * create a catch-all filter at the bottom of the incoming filters that
>>   deletes the message. (Make sure you've got a working filter for
>>   every group before you turn this on!)
>
> OK, I find this a bit of a puzzle.  Can you explain the full filter
> here for me (The Original Technically Challenged One!) i.e where
> should this filter sort to, etc?

You may have seen that I replied to Roel that I basically do the same.
So, I will explain my solution.

Consider three newsgroups or, in general, 3 addresses: A, B and C. And
three folder FolderA, FolderB and FolderC where you what to sort
messages respectively. Obviously, if a message has been sent to A and B
you want to sort a copy to FolderA and FoldrB. This is my set up:

Filter A: IF A is in Recipient
 Move from Inbox to Inbox
 Copy to Folder A (Set in Actions tab)
  Continue processing with other filters (Set in Options)
Filter B: IF B is in Recipient
 Move from Inbox to Inbox
 Copy to Folder B
  Continue processing with other filters
Filter C: IF C is in Recipient
 Move from Inbox to Inbox
 Copy to Folder C
  Continue processing with other filters
Delete ABC: If A or B or C in Recipient (use Alternatives tab)
   Delete the message (set in Actions tab).

Hope that is what you were asking for.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[John Phillips]

Hi Roel,
On Mon, 08 Sep 2003, at 03:28:10 [GMT +0200] (which was 11:28 where I
live) you wrote:


> * create a catch-all filter at the bottom of the incoming filters that
>   deletes the message. (Make sure you've got a working filter for
>   every group before you turn this on!)



OK, I find this a bit of a puzzle.  Can you explain the full filter
here for me (The Original Technically Challenged One!) i.e where
should this filter sort to, etc?

T.I.A!


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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[John Phillips]

Hi MAU,
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, at 10:58:08 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:58 where I
live) you wrote:


>  See http://news.cis.dfn.de/, they have changed names.


Still will work with old name; just set it up.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Carsten,

>>> - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address
>>> with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the
>>> one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it.
>
> No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you
> should follow the rules.

Why not Carsten? What I suggested is so that MIDs will be unique to
_his_ messages and then he can use this fake domain in his filters to
look for replies to him and threads that he is involved in. Nothing to
do about spam, etc., because he can still use his real address in From
and Reply-To.

>> I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already?
> 
> ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de>\s*\n[\S\n]))
> 
> Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your
> FQDN (»adr\.dk«).

I'll have to give that a try. Thanks :)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Peter Fjelsten]

Carsten,

On 14-09-2003 00:03, you [C] wrote in
:
C> * Peter Fjelsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> On 13-09-2003 09:49, you [M] wrote:

>>> - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address
>>> with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the
>>> one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it.

C> No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you
C> should follow the rules.

I think it's generally accepted to use the TLD of ".invalid" if
necessary?

C> IMHO it is not very polite to hide your name or mail address -- but
C> this of course is my personal opinion.

I agree. From what I hear - and this is my personal experience, too - if
you use "Nospam" in your mail address (like mine "nospamadr.dk"),
you get very little spam: most of my spam is from addresses picked up at
my web sites.

C> You should never use fake addresses which are not under your control
C> (like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ...), because
C> *they* will receive the bounces.

Correct.

>> I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already?

C> ((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de>\s*\n[\S\n]))

C> Search in Kludges and replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your
C> FQDN (»adr\.dk«).

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Carsten Thönges]

* Peter Fjelsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 13-09-2003 09:49, you [M] wrote:

>> - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address
>> with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the
>> one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it.

No, please don't do that. If you want to be part of USENET then you
should follow the rules.

The most simple way not to get spam is to fill in an *existing*
e-mail address in the To: field which is under your control (you
don't have to read those mails, create an extra gmx, hotmail,
realbox, etc account for that) to prevent mail bounces. Reply-To:
addresses are hardly spammed, so you should create another e-mail
account for that which you read once a week or so.

IMHO it is not very polite to hide your name or mail address -- but
this of course is my personal opinion.

If you definitely don't want to publish your e-mail address then
use [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You should never use fake addresses which are not under your control
(like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ...), because
*they* will receive the bounces.

> Yes, but this would mean that people cannot send me mail as the address
> is fake.

Right.

> However, I have noticed that direct replies to one's messages have the
> MSID of the replied-to message last under references - now I only need
> some RegEx to hit on only messages where my MSID is the last in the
> string of references.

> ,- [  ]
> | References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> `-

> I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already?

((?:\nReferences:[^\n]*?)(?:\n\s[^\n]*?)*(@immer-international\.de>\s*\n[\S\n]))

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Peter Fjelsten]

MAU,

On 13-09-2003 15:47, you [M] wrote in
:
>> I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already?

M> No, I'm no good at RegEex :-((

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Peter,

> Pling!!!  Now I _just_ realised what you mean
> (as you can see from what I wrote above) - by setting the "fake" domain
> at the general account level and the real domain at all the folders, I
> can achieve what I'm after?

I belive so :)

> Of cause this method does not distinguish between replies to my message
> and other messages in the sub-thread I am in, as my MSID is in the
> References section in the whole sub-thread. It will make the whole
> sub-thread I'm in, right?

Right.

> I don't suppose you have that RegEx worked out already?

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Peter Fjelsten]

MAU,

On 13-09-2003 09:49, you [M] wrote in
:
M> I forgot to answer to this part of your message a few days ago,
M> sorry.

No problem! :)

M> - Create and use a separate account for newsgroups on this server.

I only have one address at adr.dk (and I use this for newsgroups):
nospamadr.dk

M> - On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address
M> with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the
M> one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it.

Yes, but this would mean that people cannot send me mail as the address
is fake. I'd rather not have the real address in the signature.

M> - Create a folder for each newsgroups you are subscribed to (I assume
M> you already do this) and on the Properties/Identity tab include your
>>From and Reply-To address with the "adr.dk" domain.

Pling!!!  Now I _just_ realised what you mean
(as you can see from what I wrote above) - by setting the "fake" domain
at the general account level and the real domain at all the folders, I
can achieve what I'm after?

Thanks a bunch, I'll try that.

Of cause this method does not distinguish between replies to my message
and other messages in the sub-thread I am in, as my MSID is in the
References section in the whole sub-thread. It will make the whole
sub-thread I'm in, right?

However, I have noticed that direct replies to one's messages have the
MSID of the replied-to message last under references - now I only need
some RegEx to hit on only messages where my MSID is the last in the
string of references.

,- [  ]
| References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
`-

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

> - Create a folder for each newsgroups you are subscribed to (I assume
> you already do this) and on the Properties/Identity tab include your
> From and Reply-To address with the "adr.dk" domain.

And select this folder before writing any message to this group so its
Identity values will be used in the new message.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Peter,

> Yes. That would work - except what I use a real address hosted at a big
> ISP (@adr.dk). Since the MSID (which is that thing that can be filtered
> on) includes this (e.g. "References:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>") - and other people also has a MSID
> containing "adr.dk", I don't know what to do.

I forgot to answer to this part of your message a few days ago, sorry.

The way I solve this is:
- Create and use a separate account for newsgroups on this server.
- On the Properties General tab, include a From and Reply-To address
with a fake domain that you know does not exist. This fake domain is the
one that will be used to build MIDs and you can then filter on it.
- Create a folder for each newsgroups you are subscribed to (I assume
you already do this) and on the Properties/Identity tab include your
>From and Reply-To address with the "adr.dk" domain.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Anne,

M>> Just for a test you could try to increase the timeout to a much higher
M>> number. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest.
>
> I'll try changing it to a higher figure but the error message
> appears almost instantaneously though.. not after a timeout.

Then, forget it.

M>> Are you using any kind of firewall?
> 
> Yes ZAPro 4.

That must be it then. Can you disable/exit ZA and make a try?


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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 7:51:10 AM, Terry wrote:

T> Another suggestion - I initially put 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost in
T> TB. It wouldn't work until I changed it to localhost.  Is yours set to
T> localhost?


I tried it both ways Terry - it won't work with either 127.0.0.1 or
localhost :-( Thanks for the suggestion though.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 6:55:45 AM, Clive wrote:

CT> It's not your authorisation details for the news server, is
CT> it? That's the only other area that could be wrong, as far as I can see.

No the news server is my ISP's and to connect to it all I have to
do is connect on that dialup - the dialup auth lets me use the
news server then with no extra auth needed.


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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Friday, September 12, 2003, 8:02:15 AM, MAU wrote:

M> Just for a test you could try to increase the timeout to a much higher
M> number. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest.

I'll try changing it to a higher figure but the error message
appears almost instantaneously though.. not after a timeout.


M> Are you using any kind of firewall?

Yes ZAPro 4.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Anne,

> Yes Miguel, I changed all timeouts in MyGate to 30 and it's made
> no difference :-(

Just for a test you could try to increase the timeout to a much higher
number. Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest.

Are you using any kind of firewall?

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 8:09:37 AM, MAU wrote:

M> On the POP3>NNTP gate, have you tried increasing the Timeout (default to
M> 10 secs) on the NNTP Tab?


Yes Miguel, I changed all timeouts in MyGate to 30 and it's made
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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 7:28:38 AM, Clive wrote:

CT> I had the same problem and found that I could get MyGate to
CT> work only by setting the local port to 110 in both TB and
CT> MyGate (NNTP on 119). Any other combinations just wouldn't
CT> work.


Thanks Clive - I tried this and it still won't work for me :-(

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Edgar]

Hello Julien,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 11:31:41 PM, Julien wrote:

E>> No,  my  problem  is the he downloads every thing, but is this was the
E>> first  time  that  you  downloaded messages he downloaded the last 100
E>> messages of the group?

> Yes, the first time, I checked what it downloaded with OE, and it was
> the 100 last messages, but now, I only get the replies to the threads
> I have: no new thread, nor _everything_ like you.

What is your port setting in TB! for pop3 and smtp?
And what did you fill in with message management (delete from servere)
/leave on server?

Which NNTP are you using (and is it free so I can check?).

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Peter Fjelsten]

Clive,

On 11-09-2003 08:28, you [C] wrote in
:

C> I had the same problem and found that I could get MyGate to work only
C> by setting the local port to 110 in both TB and MyGate (NNTP on 119).
C> Any other combinations just wouldn't work.

My ports are 2000 and 2001.

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[MAU]

Hello Julien,

> I had not subscribed to the right group. Shame on me...

Don't worry, things like that happen every day. The important thing is
that you found the "bug" :-)

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Hello Julien,

> Did anyone experienced the same problem, or is it just me ? I am doing
> something wrong ?

Have you tried to un-subscribe from a group, delete all messages and
subscribe again?

> (I use News.CIS.DFN.DE as newserver)

Same here and haven't had any problem.

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Hello Anne,

> I've set up the pop » nntp and the smtp » nntp tabs... & am using
> my ISP's news server (or trying to!) on port 119 but when I tell
> it to get the list of newsgroups I get an error box saying
> (exactly as shown):
>
> TGatedWinSocketStream.ReadUntil timeout

On the POP3>NNTP gate, have you tried increasing the Timeout (default to
10 secs) on the NNTP Tab?

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[Anne]

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 3:02:29 PM, Edgar wrote:

E> I've  installed  MyGate today. And it's receiving and sending mails to
E> news groups,


Hmmm I installed it also to try out and I can't get it to connect
to the news server at all :-(

I've set up the pop » nntp and the smtp » nntp tabs... & am using
my ISP's news server (or trying to!) on port 119 but when I tell
it to get the list of newsgroups I get an error box saying
(exactly as shown):

TGatedWinSocketStream.ReadUntil timeout

If I try and connect from TB! to MyGate I get this message in the
log:

!11/09/2003, 00:40:07: FETCH - Connect failed

I've checked and double checked all the settings against the
instructions but can't see where the problem is... does anyone
have any suggestions please...?

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[Edgar]

Hello Julien,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:51:49 PM, Julien wrote:

> I've got a problem with MyGate: I set it to download 100 messages on
> subscription, but now, when I check for new messages, it only
> downloads replies to already downloaded threads.

No,  my  problem  is the he downloads every thing, but is this was the
first  time  that  you  downloaded messages he downloaded the last 100
messages of the group?

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Hello all,

M> Hello all,

M> Well, just yesterday I discovered MyGate. A protocol gateway specially
M> developed for The Bat! (that's what the author claims) that seems to
M> work quite well and is much simpler to set up and use than my solution
M> with MailTraq, specially if you only use one news server. For more info:

I've got a problem with MyGate: I set it to download 100 messages on
subscription, but now, when I check for new messages, it only
downloads replies to already downloaded threads.

Did anyone experienced the same problem, or is it just me ? I am doing
something wrong ?

(I use News.CIS.DFN.DE as newserver)

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Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 7:40:31 PM, you wrote:

>> You may find something here:
>> http://www.gotobiz.co.uk/g/param/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/.

TF> This site lists only web-based servers, as far as I could see.

I don't think so...

A small list of public NNTP servers
http://theone.ru/news.html

Aaron's Free News Servers
http://www.newsservers.net/

- From these I found...

news://news.uni-rostock.de/
news://post.newsfeeds.com/
news://freenews.netfront.net

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[Edgar van Dijk]

Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 6:55:57 PM, Thomas wrote:

>> It would not be so bad if it happens just ones. But I've a group where
>> he  did  download  10.000  messages  again and again. When I used kill
>> doubles he told me that he found around 20.000.

>> What am I doing wrong?

> I'd like to find out. The newsserver I intend to use needs a
> subscription, and while I have applied, I still haven't got my
> user/pass. So if you can recommend a newsserver that works without
> subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG and try
> MyGate out along with you.


Here  is  a  list with servers. I've not tried them so I hope it's not
totally crap :-).

http://freenews.maxbaud.net/newspage.html?date=2003-09-10
and a specialized group.
news://news.superbase.com/


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[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Martin,

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:05:12 +0100 GMT (11/09/2003, 00:05 +0700 GMT),
Martin Webster wrote:

TF>> So if you can recommend a newsserver that works without
TF>> subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG
TF>> and try MyGate out along with you.

> You may find something here:
> http://www.gotobiz.co.uk/g/param/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/.

This site lists only web-based servers, as far as I could see.

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Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:55:57 PM, you wrote:

TF> I'd like to find out. The newsserver I intend to use needs a
TF> subscription, and while I have applied, I still haven't got my
TF> user/pass. So if you can recommend a newsserver that works without
TF> subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG and try
TF> MyGate out along with you.

You may find something here:
http://www.gotobiz.co.uk/g/param/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/.

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[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Edgar,

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:02:29 +0200 GMT (10/09/2003, 21:02 +0700 GMT),
Edgar wrote:

> It would not be so bad if it happens just ones. But I've a group where
> he  did  download  10.000  messages  again and again. When I used kill
> doubles he told me that he found around 20.000.

> What am I doing wrong?

I'd like to find out. The newsserver I intend to use needs a
subscription, and while I have applied, I still haven't got my
user/pass. So if you can recommend a newsserver that works without
subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG and try
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[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> Oh!

Ah! :)

> No, I don't have any username and password for the server.

  See http://news.cis.dfn.de/, they have changed names.

> Just for testing purposes, could you name a server that does not
> require authorisation?

You can find a few here:

  http://freenews.maxbaud.net/newspage.html?date=2003-09-09


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[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:31:06 +0200 GMT (09/09/2003, 15:31 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

>> Server: news.cis.dfn.de

> That server requires a username and password,

Oh!

> are you sure they are correct on the Authorization tab of the gate?

No, I don't have any username and password for the server.

Just for testing purposes, could you name a server that does not
require authorisation? - If MyGate works here as expected, then I can
go and find out how to get auth for the desired server, or what other
servers carry the target NG.

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[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> Server: news.cis.dfn.de

That server requires a username and password, are you sure they are
correct on the Authorization tab of the gate?

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[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 10:04:41 +0200 GMT (07/09/2003, 15:04 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

>   http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/

OK, I'm too stupid.

I have subscribed to a newsgroup, using MyGate.

TB connects fine to localhost but find "0 messages in the mailbox". I
thought when I hit Receive New Mails in TB, MyGate should get the
messages/postings from the NG. And I do see internet activity in my
DUN icon in the systray. There is no error message in the log.
Number of messages is set 100 (default).

Server: news.cis.dfn.de
Group:  de.alt.comp.the-bat

I also subscribed to what looked like a high-traffic list, something
starting with comp. just in case there were no postings in that NG.
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[MAU]

Hello Allen,

> I've  now done that, and tested it on a few other groups and
> all is working correctly

:-))

> This is quite a nice usenet solution.

It is certainly for me. As a matter of fact, I have already un-installed
MailTraq4Free that I have been using for about a year and a half.


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[MAU]

Hello Allen,

> Because  it  DID download all.  First time I checked my mail, I pulled
> 100  messages. Ten minutes later, it refreshed . . . now, I have about
> 2500 messages per group.

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[Peter Fjelsten]

Pixie,

On 08-09-2003 17:17, you [P] wrote in
:
P> Trying to figure out why I would want to even consider using something
P> other than Xnews -- kind of grows on people like TB! does.

I come from Xnews.

I would like to have all the same place.

I prefer the spell check, QT, macros, etc in TB. Also I only need to set
up a bunch of stuff one.

Binaries are not good with MyGate (AFAIK) and some filtering may be
easier with XNews.

My conclusion: I will use MyGate for text groups until Ritlabs makes a
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[Pixie]

Trying to figure out why I would want to even consider using something
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[MAU]

Hello Allen,

> But the next time I checked my mail/the newsgroup, it wants
> to  download  -all- of the messages in all of the groups, not just the
> x-number.  am I doing something wrong in my setup, or . . . what?

It should download x-number max for each subscribed newsgroup, this has
worked fine for me every time I tried. How do you know it is trying to
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[MAU]

Hello Clive,

> OK. It's now working.

Great! :)

> but MyGate seems to want port 110 only.

That's the default when you create a gate, but it will accept anything.

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[Allen]

MAU,
M> Well, just yesterday I discovered MyGate. A protocol gateway specially
M> developed for The Bat! (that's what the author claims) that seems to
M> work quite well and is much simpler to set up and use than my solution
M> with MailTraq, specially if you only use one news server. For more info:

M>   http://en.barin.com.ua/soft/mygate/

I've  specified  for  it  to  only  download  x-number  of messages on
subscription.  Upon my first download, it downloaded only that number.
Perfect.   But the next time I checked my mail/the newsgroup, it wants
to  download  -all- of the messages in all of the groups, not just the
x-number.  am I doing something wrong in my setup, or . . . what?

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[MAU]

Hello Clive,

> I can't get it to work at all. It's probably me but are there any
> tricks to setting it up? I've used the defaults but I can't even
> collect a newsgroup list.

The program is almost as simple as the mechanism of a spoon, have you
read HELP?

Be a bit more specific, defaults for what? What do you do to collect the
newsgroups list? What happens then? Any error message of any kind?

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[Peter Fjelsten]

Allen,

On 08-09-2003 15:27, you [A] wrote in
:

A> Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to work, myself .
A> . . hmn -- let me know if you figure it out.

What is your problem? I installed and ran mine in less then 5 mins!

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[MAU]

Hello Roel,

> I've found a fairly easy way to do this:


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[Roel]

Hi Michael

On 7 Sep 2003 11:59:56  (my local time 12:59:56), Michael Thompson
wrote:

MT> Works a treat here. Only problem is that if a message is
MT> crossposted it is nearly impossible to filter it to the correct
MT> area! I have not yet found a way round this.

I've found a fairly easy way to do this:

* create an incoming filter for each newsgroup that makes a copy in
  the correct folder, but doesn't move the message. Set the option
  'continue processing with other filters' to ON.
* create a catch-all filter at the bottom of the incoming filters that
  deletes the message. (Make sure you've got a working filter for
  every group before you turn this on!)

However, there's another problem you should watch out for:
Don't filter on just the name of the newsgroup!

When you've got a few newsgroups with partial names (there are
subgroups beneath them) they'll get a copy of message when one of
their subgroups is on the receiving end.

For instance:
newsgroups: be.comp & be.comp.hardware
Both folders receive a copy of a message that's only addressed to
be.comp.hardware...

The problem lies here:
My filter checked for the presence of 'be.comp' in the received-header.
What it should have done is check for 'be.comp' followed by a '>', ','
or a line-break.

Solution:
Also turn regular-expressions on, and let this be your filter-string:
 "be\.comp[>|,|\n]" recipient yes (offcourse without the quotes!)

The filter-string for be.comp.hardware would be
"be\.comp\.hardware[>|,|\n]" recipient yes (offcourse without the
quotes!)

and so on & on...


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[MAU]

Hello Peter,

> Yes indeed. But it it is retraceable: puli.ermapper-spain.com... ;-)

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[MAU]

Hello Peter,

> How do you differentiate between "Involved" and "Reply to me" filters -
> isn't References the only header to filter on?

Sorry, I may have misled you. I differentiate on mailing lists like this
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[Peter Fjelsten]

Peter,

On 07-09-2003 19:09, you [P] wrote in
:
P> Yes indeed. But it it is retraceable: puli.ermapper-spain.com... ;-)

One definitely needs to use "invalid" as top-level domain.

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[Peter Meyns]

Hi MAU,

on Sun, 7 Sep 2003 17:52:36 +0200GMT (07.09.03, 17:52 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

>> That would work except I don't use a "domain address" on usenet (to try
>> to limit spam to postmaster@), but I guess this is the only way to do
>> it.

M> I also use a fake domain (one that doesn't exist) on usenet, and TB uses
M> this fake domain for Msg IDs. So, for newsgroups, I use this fake domain
M> for my Involved and Reply to me filters. Try it :-)

Yes indeed. But it it is retraceable: puli.ermapper-spain.com... ;-)

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[Peter Fjelsten]

MAU,

On 07-09-2003 17:52, you [M] wrote in
:
M> I also use a fake domain (one that doesn't exist) on usenet, and TB
M> uses this fake domain for Msg IDs. So, for newsgroups, I use this
M> fake domain for my Involved and Reply to me filters. Try it :-)

Yes. That would work - except what I use a real address hosted at a big
ISP (@adr.dk). Since the MSID (which is that thing that can be filtered
on) includes this (e.g. "References:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>") - and other people also has a MSID
containing "adr.dk", I don't know what to do.

How do you differentiate between "Involved" and "Reply to me" filters -
isn't References the only header to filter on?

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 Peter Fjelsten
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 Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1




Current version is 2.00 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html