RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-06 Thread George Gallen 
The way I understand it, you create a FIFO pipe in /dev, the the utility
would interface with the portserver,
   either via telnet or another protocol, and route it to the fifo file.
 
On our old system (digital unix), we used LAT for the terminal servers, and
the procedure was a little different
   they weren't fifo's, and were manipulated with latcp, but then LAT is a
whole nuther problem.
 
George

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From: John Solie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:56 PM
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Serial Connectivity


I'm very interested in how this all pans out...
 
We're working on trying to get some Annex3 term servers working with an IBM
p650, and get several devices (printers, badge scanners, and other async
stuff) set up in such a way that we can use them on this new machine.  We're
currently running UniData 5.1.30 on a DG Aviion 9500, and connectivity to
these devices works great, and has for years.  There's an rtelnet program
that runs under AIX, but it doesn't play well with others as it likes to
consume an entire CPU.  (!!)  
 
On those digi port servers, am I correct in assuming that one would run a
utility to create an entry in /dev that points to a port on the portserver?
And, if so, is it a well adjusted program that likes to play with others?
 
Thanks,



  -- John Solie -- Professional Hospital Supply

 



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Subject: RE: Serial Connectivity



I just got a digiport server running on Universe/Linux.  We have a
door/people counter on it and an RF mux.  We used cat5 basic wiring with
rj45 to db25 converters.  Pins 2, 3, 7 (tx, rx, sig gnd) are all that were
needed.  If the digi driver installs properly and such it should be pretty
simple. 

Anthony Dzikiewicz

 

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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:38 AM
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Subject: Serial Connectivity

 

We are considering connecting a scale [used to weigh parts] having an RS-232
port to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP system.

 

Digi appears to have the best unit to go from serial to ethernet.  While we
do have an HP serial port "hub", I would rather not wire a serial home-run
from the server to the scale.

 

Thus, I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make a connection between say
UniBasic and/or UniObjects and a serial or ethernet device.  

 

--Bill

 

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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-06 Thread Brian Leach 
Bill,
 
Direct socket handling commands are available in UniVerse BASIC at version
10.
See the basic.pdf chapter 8 for details.
 
Regards,
 
Brian Leach

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Subject: RE: Serial Connectivity


Answering my own question, there is a BASIC extensions package available
from IBM for $63.
 
Bill

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Is a "socket connection" accomplished via UniObjects ?
 
Thanks for the advisroy on the wireless Sena device.  It costs $399 versus
$160 for the Digi unit.
 
Bill

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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:47 AM
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Subject: RE: Serial Connectivity


what about using a serial -> ethernet -> wireless bridge   ///
wireless router -> server
since your only talking about a scale, speed isn't an issue, go with the
cheaper 802.11b
 
Once it's all hooked, you establish a link from UV -> scale via a socket
connection
 
George

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From: Brutzman, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:38 AM
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: Serial Connectivity


We are considering connecting a scale [used to weigh parts] having an RS-232
port to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP system.
 
Digi appears to have the best unit to go from serial to ethernet.  While we
do have an HP serial port "hub", I would rather not wire a serial home-run
from the server to the scale.
 
Thus, I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make a connection between say
UniBasic and/or UniObjects and a serial or ethernet device.  
 
--Bill

 



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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread Brutzman, Bill 
Title: Message



Answering my own question, there is a BASIC extensions package available 
from IBM for $63.
 
Bill

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brutzman, 
  BillSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:33 PMTo: 'U2 
  Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: Serial 
  Connectivity
  Is a 
  "socket connection" accomplished via UniObjects ?
   
  Thanks for the advisroy on the wireless Sena device.  
  It costs $399 versus $160 for the Digi unit.
   
  Bill
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf 
Of George GallenSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:47 
AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: Serial 
Connectivity
what about using a serial -> ethernet -> 
wireless bridge   ///    wireless 
router -> server
since your only talking about a scale, speed isn't an issue, go with 
the cheaper 802.11b
 
Once it's all hooked, you establish a link from UV -> scale via a 
socket connection
 
George

  -Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 
  2004 11:38 AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: 
  Serial Connectivity
  We are considering connecting a scale [used to 
  weigh parts] having an RS-232 port to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP 
  system.
   
  Digi appears to have the best unit to go 
  from serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP serial port "hub", I 
  would rather not wire a serial home-run from the server to the 
  scale.
   
  Thus, I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make a 
  connection between say UniBasic and/or UniObjects and a serial or ethernet 
  device.  
   
  --Bill
  
 
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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread John Solie 
Title: Message



I'm very interested in how this all pans out...
 
We're working on trying to get some Annex3 term servers working with an 
IBM p650, and get several devices (printers, badge scanners, and other 
async stuff) set up in such a way that we can use them on this 
new machine.  We're currently running UniData 5.1.30 on a DG Aviion 
9500, and connectivity to these devices works great, and has for years.  
There's an rtelnet program that runs under AIX, but it doesn't play well with 
others as it likes to consume an entire CPU.  (!!)  

 
On those digi port servers, am I correct in assuming that one would run a 
utility to create an entry in /dev that points to a port on the 
portserver?  And, if so, is it a well adjusted program that likes to play 
with others?
 
Thanks,
  -- John Solie -- Professional Hospital Supply
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony 
  DzikiewiczSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 10:07 AMTo: 
  U2 Users Discussion ListSubject: RE: Serial 
  Connectivity
  
  
  I just 
  got a digiport server running on Universe/Linux.  We have a door/people counter on it 
  and an RF mux.  We used cat5 basic 
  wiring with rj45 to db25 converters.  
  Pins 2, 3, 7 (tx, rx, sig gnd) are all that were needed.  If the digi driver installs properly 
  and such it should be pretty simple. 
  Anthony 
  Dzikiewicz
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brutzman, BillSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:38 
  AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion 
  List'Subject: Serial 
  Connectivity
   
  We are 
  considering connecting a scale [used to weigh parts] having an RS-232 port to 
  our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP system.
   
  Digi appears to 
  have the best unit to go from serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP 
  serial port "hub", I would rather not wire a serial home-run from the server 
  to the scale.
   
  Thus, I 
  seek suggestions on voodoo to best make a connection between say UniBasic 
  and/or UniObjects and a serial or ethernet device.  
   
  --Bill
   
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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread Wendy Smoak 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill
> How are "sockets" done with UniVerse ?

Take a look at the Universe BASIC Extensions manual here:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/100univ/univ_101.ht
ml

http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/25119080.pdf

I've used CallHTTP, which has to be built on top of sockets, but hides
the ugly details.

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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread George Gallen 
Title: Message



I 
don't remember typing objections, I swear I typed 
objects
Man...it's been a lng day.
 
George

  -Original Message-From: George Gallen 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:47 
  PMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: Serial 
  Connectivity
  I 
  don't know about objections, haven't used it.
   
  George
  
-Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 
2:33 PMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: 
Serial Connectivity
Is 
a "socket connection" accomplished via UniObjects ?
 
Thanks for the advisroy on the wireless Sena device.  
It costs $399 versus $160 for the Digi unit.
 
Bill

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of George GallenSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 
      11:47 AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: 
  Serial Connectivity
  what about using a serial -> ethernet -> 
  wireless bridge   ///    
  wireless router -> server
  since your only talking about a scale, speed isn't an issue, go 
  with the cheaper 802.11b
   
  Once it's all hooked, you establish a link from UV -> scale via 
  a socket connection
   
  George
  
-Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 
2004 11:38 AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion 
List'Subject: Serial Connectivity
We are considering connecting a scale [used to 
weigh parts] having an RS-232 port to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP 
system.
 
Digi appears to have the best unit to go 
from serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP serial port "hub", 
I would rather not wire a serial home-run from the server to the 
scale.
 
Thus, I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make 
a connection between say UniBasic and/or UniObjects and a serial or 
ethernet device.  
 
--Bill

   
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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread Brutzman, Bill 
Title: Message



How 
are "sockets" done with UniVerse ?
 
Bill

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of George 
  GallenSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:47 PMTo: 'U2 
  Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: Serial 
  Connectivity
  I 
  don't know about objections, haven't used it.
   
  George
  
-Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 
2:33 PMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: 
Serial Connectivity
Is 
a "socket connection" accomplished via UniObjects ?
 
Thanks for the advisroy on the wireless Sena device.  
It costs $399 versus $160 for the Digi unit.
 
Bill

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of George GallenSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 
      11:47 AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: 
  Serial Connectivity
  what about using a serial -> ethernet -> 
  wireless bridge   ///    
  wireless router -> server
  since your only talking about a scale, speed isn't an issue, go 
  with the cheaper 802.11b
   
  Once it's all hooked, you establish a link from UV -> scale via 
  a socket connection
   
  George
  
-Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 
2004 11:38 AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion 
List'Subject: Serial Connectivity
We are considering connecting a scale [used to 
weigh parts] having an RS-232 port to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP 
system.
 
Digi appears to have the best unit to go 
from serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP serial port "hub", 
I would rather not wire a serial home-run from the server to the 
scale.
 
Thus, I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make 
a connection between say UniBasic and/or UniObjects and a serial or 
ethernet device.  
 
--Bill

   
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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread George Gallen 
Title: Message



I 
don't know about objections, haven't used it.
 
George

  -Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 
  2:33 PMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: Serial 
  Connectivity
  Is a 
  "socket connection" accomplished via UniObjects ?
   
  Thanks for the advisroy on the wireless Sena device.  
  It costs $399 versus $160 for the Digi unit.
   
  Bill
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf 
Of George GallenSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:47 
AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: Serial 
Connectivity
what about using a serial -> ethernet -> 
wireless bridge   ///    wireless 
router -> server
since your only talking about a scale, speed isn't an issue, go with 
the cheaper 802.11b
 
Once it's all hooked, you establish a link from UV -> scale via a 
socket connection
 
George

  -Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 
  2004 11:38 AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: 
  Serial Connectivity
  We are considering connecting a scale [used to 
  weigh parts] having an RS-232 port to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP 
  system.
   
  Digi appears to have the best unit to go 
  from serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP serial port "hub", I 
  would rather not wire a serial home-run from the server to the 
  scale.
   
  Thus, I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make a 
  connection between say UniBasic and/or UniObjects and a serial or ethernet 
  device.  
   
  --Bill
  
 
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Re: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread Kent Walker 


The "Digi One" series is useful for single device
applications.  We're using a "Digi One SP" (single port)
terminal server for a lone holdout who demands keeping an ancient serial
terminal instead of using a networked PC.  There was a problem
initially connecting to a Solaris system, but Digi worked with us and
modified their firmware.
Kent
At 08:38 AM 2/5/2004, you wrote:
We
are considering connecting a scale [used to weigh parts] having an RS-232
port to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP system.
 
Digi appears to have the best
unit to go from serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP serial
port "hub", I would rather not wire a serial home-run from the
server to the scale.
 
Thus, I seek suggestions on
voodoo to best make a connection between say UniBasic and/or UniObjects
and a serial or ethernet device.  
 
--Bill


 



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Re: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread Robert Porter 



We use lantronix UDS'es for single port serial connections.  We use 
these with a socket server process for talking to laboratory instruments, 
and even serial printers. We also use them as single port terminal 
servers.  Newer version of UniVerse can use sockets directly.  I'm 
about to use another dozen+ of these to talk to data collection terminals.
 
http://www.lantronix.com/products/ds/index.html
 
Cost is about $130 for a UDS100 (100bT 1 port)
 
rfp>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/04 10:38AM 
>>>
We are 
considering connecting a scale [used to weigh parts] having an RS-232 port to 
our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP system.
 
Digi appears to have 
the best unit to go from serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP serial 
port "hub", I would rather not wire a serial home-run from the server to the 
scale.
 
Thus, 
I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make a connection between say UniBasic 
and/or UniObjects and a serial or ethernet device.  
 
--Bill

   
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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread Brutzman, Bill 
Title: Message



Is a 
"socket connection" accomplished via UniObjects ?
 
Thanks 
for the advisroy on the wireless Sena device.  It costs $399 versus 
$160 for the Digi unit.
 
Bill

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of George 
  GallenSent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:47 AMTo: 'U2 
  Users Discussion List'Subject: RE: Serial 
  Connectivity
  what 
  about using a serial -> ethernet -> 
  wireless bridge   ///    wireless 
  router -> server
  since 
  your only talking about a scale, speed isn't an issue, go with the cheaper 
  802.11b
   
  Once 
  it's all hooked, you establish a link from UV -> scale via a socket 
  connection
   
  George
  
-Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 
11:38 AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: Serial 
Connectivity
We 
are considering connecting a scale [used to weigh parts] having an RS-232 
port to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP system.
 
Digi appears to have the best unit to go from 
serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP serial port "hub", I would 
rather not wire a serial home-run from the server to the 
scale.
 
Thus, I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make a 
connection between say UniBasic and/or UniObjects and a serial or ethernet 
device.  
 
--Bill

   
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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz 
Title: Message









I just got
a digiport server running on Universe/Linux.  We have a door/people counter on it and an RF mux.  We used cat5 basic wiring with rj45 to
db25 converters.  Pins 2, 3, 7 (tx,
rx, sig gnd) are all that were needed. 
If the digi driver installs properly and such it should be pretty
simple. 

Anthony Dzikiewicz

 

-Original
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf
Of Brutzman, Bill
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004
11:38 AM
To: 'U2 Users Discussion List'
Subject: Serial Connectivity

 

We are considering
connecting a scale [used to weigh parts] having an RS-232 port to our HP Unix,
UniVerse-based ERP system.

 

Digi appears to have
the best unit to go from serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP
serial port "hub", I would rather not wire a serial home-run from the
server to the scale.

 

Thus, I seek suggestions
on voodoo to best make a connection between say UniBasic and/or UniObjects and
a serial or ethernet device.  

 

--Bill

 






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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread George Gallen 
Title: Message



http://www.sena.com/products/by_name/hd_super/
 
Might be of some value?
 
george
 

  -Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 
  11:38 AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: Serial 
  Connectivity
  We 
  are considering connecting a scale [used to weigh parts] having an RS-232 port 
  to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP system.
   
  Digi appears to have the best unit to go from 
  serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP serial port "hub", I would 
  rather not wire a serial home-run from the server to the 
  scale.
   
  Thus, I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make a 
  connection between say UniBasic and/or UniObjects and a serial or ethernet 
  device.  
   
  --Bill
  
 
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RE: Serial Connectivity

2004-02-05 Thread George Gallen 
Title: Message



what 
about using a serial -> ethernet -> 
wireless bridge   ///    wireless 
router -> server
since 
your only talking about a scale, speed isn't an issue, go with the cheaper 
802.11b
 
Once 
it's all hooked, you establish a link from UV -> scale via a socket 
connection
 
George

  -Original Message-From: Brutzman, Bill 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 
  11:38 AMTo: 'U2 Users Discussion List'Subject: Serial 
  Connectivity
  We 
  are considering connecting a scale [used to weigh parts] having an RS-232 port 
  to our HP Unix, UniVerse-based ERP system.
   
  Digi appears to have the best unit to go from 
  serial to ethernet.  While we do have an HP serial port "hub", I would 
  rather not wire a serial home-run from the server to the 
  scale.
   
  Thus, I seek suggestions on voodoo to best make a 
  connection between say UniBasic and/or UniObjects and a serial or ethernet 
  device.  
   
  --Bill
  
 
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