Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Cartographor] The Map of Arcadia -- July week 4

2018-07-29 Thread Rebecca
Cartographer's note section doesn't work to mark something disputed unless there's some indication of disputation like a ! mark in the report's list itself. Otherwise the report is internally inconsistent and doesn't self-ratify. (note I haven't actually checked whether this is the case here)

DIS: Re: BUS: missing reports

2018-07-26 Thread Rebecca
I was sloppy in these messages: I didn't explicitly state that these were forgivable. But I think the imposition of an apology word automatically makes it so. On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Rebecca wrote: > I find both of these finger points valid. Because these are two > separate

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: None of my votes have counted since July 15

2018-07-26 Thread Rebecca
Yes. People not votes for quorum On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > After reading Rules 2422 and 683, I think your vote still counts toward > quorum, which is good. > > -Aris > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 4:11 PM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Summary Judgement

2018-07-26 Thread Rebecca
last few months, but > don't remember seeing the result (and couldn't find it in a quick Gazette > search). Anyone remember? Boy I really really really need to get the CFJ > database up-to-date again. > > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote: > > I was sloppy with th

DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Summary Judgement

2018-07-26 Thread Rebecca
I was sloppy with these, too. Summary Judgement fines are not forgivable by definition. Therefore I am not eligible for a Ref salary this month. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Rebecca wrote: > There is one person recently late on reports (myself) and three people > very late on CFJ

Re: (Attn: Murphy) in Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Summary Judgement

2018-07-26 Thread Rebecca
months, > but > > don't remember seeing the result (and couldn't find it in a quick Gazette > > search). Anyone remember? Boy I really really really need to get the > CFJ > > database up-to-date again. > > > > > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, Rebecca wrote: >

Re: DIS: Proto-judgement of CFJ 3654

2018-07-31 Thread Rebecca
Given the 2 uncontested cfjs ruling the votes at issue invalid, the answer is 4 clearly On Wed., 1 Aug. 2018, 1:55 pm Aris Merchant, < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 8:50 PM Edward Murphy wrote: > > > (I may be overlooking any number of things here; if I

Re: DIS: Proto-judgement of CFJ 3654

2018-07-31 Thread Rebecca
sider, if others are also confused." On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Rebecca wrote: > Actually, I just noticed and (if we accept those CFJs) there should be > three invalid votes as opposed to four. One of those CFJs invalidated "I do > the same as the last four people in this

Re: DIS: Proto-judgement of CFJ 3654

2018-07-31 Thread Rebecca
at 1:58 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > G. contested those, with supporting logic affixed, which is why this case > exists. It wasn't an attempt to get around an appeal, either, if you look > at the justification. > > -Aris > > > On Tue

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: 3638 Rejudgement

2018-08-04 Thread Rebecca
yer > requirement implicitly only applies when a player is targeted. > - It's not a notice of honor because it doesn't "provide a reason for > specifying that Player" (and I never can, because Agora isn't a player). > And > the implicit rule mentioned above doesn't

DIS: Re: BUS: 3638 Rejudgement

2018-08-02 Thread Rebecca
you can move to reconsider your own judgements once automatically now. On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Corona wrote: > I support the move for reconsideration. > > On Thursday, August 2, 2018, Rebecca wrote: > > > I move for reconsideration of my judgement in CF

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] [RWO] Routine Worst-Case Cleanup

2018-08-08 Thread Rebecca
I can't resolve this Finger without knowing whether or not the document was incorrect (or indeterminate, which it clearly isn't). Unless anyone can point to a proposal that clearly existed that your ratification claimed did not, and within a timely fashion from the Finger, I will likely acquit.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Referee] Summary Judgement

2018-07-15 Thread Rebecca
ons. > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 4:09 AM Rebecca wrote: >> >> There is one person recently late on reports (myself) and three people >> very late on CFJs. One of them is Gaelan, a zombie, but the other two >> are PSS and ATMunn, who have no excuse. Those CFJs were assigned on 24

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Ambassadorial Consideration

2018-07-15 Thread Rebecca
damn time limits!! this would have been more fun with higher participation/longer time but congrats aris. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Yes. That is my third strike. Now, Aris is the only remaining player, > assuming eir argument is ruled VALID

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Humiliating Public Reminder

2018-07-23 Thread Rebecca
same, it's 5. On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I object. I'd be fine with the lower value though. > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I hereby intend to ratify the following document,

Re: DIS: um

2018-07-20 Thread Rebecca
you have a CFJ to judge somewhere On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 5:02 AM, ATMunn wrote: > cool, thanks. > > > On 7/19/2018 11:30 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> You know that sort of paragraph written weekly or biweekly is the most >> useful form of newspaper. nothing fancy. >> >> I'd add that the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolutiion of Proposals 8058-8065, quorum-busting edition

2018-07-20 Thread Rebecca
got it On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 1:23 AM, Edward Murphy wrote: > twg wrote: > >> Well, if the resolution message actually is self-ratifying, I see no >> reason >> why the following shouldn't work, assuming this message actually is >> received >> by a "reasonable number" of people. (So please

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Free Proposals

2018-07-05 Thread Rebecca
No, the economy shouldn't be optional. The only way to encourage engagement with it is to make it unoptional in some way, which it really isn't now. CFJs should always be free. Proposals can and should be interacted with. Paper is a super feels-bad unfun way to do it. Better, though, than nothing.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8058-8065

2018-07-05 Thread Rebecca
I vote as follows 8058* V.J. Rada 1.0 Medal of Honour Auctions V.J. Rada FOR 8059* G. 1.0 honour is its own reward G. AGAINST 8060* V.J. Rada 1.8 Notary-B-Gone V.J. Rada FOR 8061+ Aris 1.0 Free Proposals

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8058-8065

2018-07-05 Thread Rebecca
We fundamentally should not entirely repeal our current official currency until there is a new one. The vestiges of land should go. But coins and paydays should stay as a stopgap, at least. On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:17 AM, Reuben Staley wrote: > On 07/05/2018 05:10 PM, Rebecca wrote: > &

Re: DIS: Poll: Agoran MU*

2018-07-10 Thread Rebecca
as you can guess, no no and no On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > 1) Slightly interested. > 2) Probably not. > 3) No. > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 4:21 AM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > > > > 1) Yes, it sounds interesting in

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Rebecca
The above rule is invalid: no quirky spelling On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > I present the following argument on the first docket to the court: > > Your Honor, My Fellow Counselor V.J. Rada seems to have made a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] An Argument

2018-07-11 Thread Rebecca
sorry On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: > "eksallance" is not a quirky spelling? > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:13 AM Rebecca wrote: > > > > The above rule is invalid: no quirky spelling

DIS: Re: BUS: [FRC] Docket 2

2018-07-11 Thread Rebecca
this is patently invalid. forgot everything had to include evidence. On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Rebecca wrote: > Your honour, I submit the following argument to d0ket two: > This court should rule that the purpose of a nomic is to develop into a > perfect game, and nomics

Re: DIS: [Meta] Linguistic Experimentation

2018-11-25 Thread Rebecca
haha gotcha i don't know crap about anything except american law i guess and even that interest is very casual. i flaunt my own ignorance. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:16 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Indeed. Or perhaps "All Agorans are snerds". > > -Aris > On

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3644 judged TRUE

2019-06-04 Thread Rebecca
Never mind, this was really 36_6_4. On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 8:22 PM Rebecca wrote: > Okay, there are two CFJ 3644s. This one and the one regarding Humiliating > Public Reminders (which appears as an Annotation in the FLR). Was this > resolved? > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:24

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8178-8179

2019-06-02 Thread Rebecca
Intent needs to be voted against you fools! It has direct affect on the possibility of levying a CHoJ and is directly opposed to our history and traditions. The rules being absolute and punishing violations that are only ambiguously against them is important! Otherwise what fun would there be. On

Re: DIS: Rule 2481: "Imminence"?

2019-06-02 Thread Rebecca
I wonder if imminence if not defined as a term of art just bears its ordinary meaning; i.e, nobody can change " the state or fact of being about to happen" of a proposal if a festival happens. Presumably that would prohibit non-festive players from removing proposals somehow? On Mon, Jun 3, 2019

Re: DIS: [Referee] Ritual Finger Pointing Proto-Decision

2019-06-04 Thread Rebecca
it's to be found in rule 217. On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:25 PM James Cook wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 05:49, Rebecca wrote: > > I suspect that the text is > > not clear and therefore the four-part test must be applied. > > What's the four-part test? > -- >From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Income

2019-06-07 Thread Rebecca
sounds hard so no On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 10:55 AM omd wrote: > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:59 AM Rebecca wrote: > > > > This exact thing was tried in about June of 2017 or 18, soon after the > new > > "boom and bust" money system came into effect (written by nic

Re: DIS: [Referee] Ritual Finger Pointing Proto-Decision

2019-06-03 Thread Rebecca
he fact that the > > responsibility to do so falls on any player. Until we know exactly who > > SHALL do so, punishing anyone is premature. Even assuming that the action > > isn’t required to perform itself, that still doesn’t tell us who exactly > > SHALL do it. > > >

Re: DIS: [Referee] Ritual Finger Pointing Proto-Decision

2019-06-03 Thread Rebecca
tion, only the Rules themselves are liable. This clause, I suspect, should be changed in some way. SHALL NOT seems like the wrong term. On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 1:12 PM Rebecca wrote: > The Ritual, however, isn't one! > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 12:36 PM ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk < > ais...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Prime Minister] there's no confidence in the economy, so...

2019-06-03 Thread Rebecca
twg is 100% correct on this, i have a very clear memory of this being the law based on a prime minister election i resolved as ADoP. HOWEVER, this CFJ regards the ability of Corona to be installed as Prime Minister, not to be a candidate in the election, by the plain text of the actual CFJ, and

Re: DIS: [Referee] Ritual Finger Pointing Proto-Decision

2019-06-03 Thread Rebecca
The Ritual, however, isn't one! On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 12:36 PM ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk < ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 12:16 +1000, Rebecca wrote: > > I think if there was a provision that said "the ADoP CAN publish an > Officer > > re

Re: DIS: [Referee] Ritual Finger Pointing Proto-Decision

2019-06-03 Thread Rebecca
This is an interesting case. Although I believe that the best reading of the rule holds all players liable, I call for judgement on the following question, barring Aris {If no player activates Rule 2596 'The Ritual' in a certain week, all players playing the game that week have violated the rule,

Re: DIS: [Referee] Ritual Finger Pointing Proto-Decision

2019-06-03 Thread Rebecca
s situation would be incorrect. > On Monday, June 3, 2019, 9:36:19 PM CDT, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk < > ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 12:16 +1000, Rebecca wrote: > > I think if there was a provision that said "the ADoP CAN publish an > Officer

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8180-8187

2019-06-13 Thread Rebecca
: > What if we kept the existing language but changed SHALL NOT to > CANNOT--"the rules CANNOT be interpreted..."? > > > On Jun 13, 2019, at 1:50 AM, Rebecca wrote: > > > > It wouldn't gut contracts because anything specified by a Contract _is_ > > re

DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread Rebecca
Coe I bid eight coins so I should win the third zombie On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 12:09 PM James Cook wrote: > The zombie auction I initiated 2019-06-06 has ended. > > Lots: > 1. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > 2. Corona > 3. Hālian > 4. Tarhalindur > > Bids (all times UTC): > 2019-06-07 17:01:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread Rebecca
Yes, I am convinced that you are absolutely right. I guess nobody has any zombies then. On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:51 PM Rebecca wrote: > Oh sorry, I missed the key "if" in there > > On Sat, 15 Jun 2019, 12:44 PM James Cook wrote: > >> Could you elabourate? Even

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread Rebecca
hink anything would allow me to transfer > them to the winner of the auction. > > On Fri., Jun. 14, 2019, 22:17 Rebecca, wrote: > > > Unlike the argument about blogs, this argument stretches annoying textual > > ism beyond its breaking point. To transfer in this context mean

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: End of June Zombie Auction

2019-06-14 Thread Rebecca
Unlike the argument about blogs, this argument stretches annoying textual ism beyond its breaking point. To transfer in this context means to change from the ownership of one entity to anothwr. So the auctioneer CAN transfer the switch: from agora to the auction winners. On Sat, 15 Jun 2019,

Re: DIS: unregulation

2019-06-16 Thread Rebecca
Anyone dumb enough to consent to a contract forbidding breathing deserves any blots that may be imposed, in my view. No such protections are needed, and if somehow somebody scams someone into such a contract, the referee can use eir discretion to not punish. I stand by my original stance/ On Mon,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-16 Thread Rebecca
But it's a truism that the rules only regulate what they regulate, we don't need a special rule to say what is already implicit. On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 9:49 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On 6/16/2019 4:28 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > G., I strongly suspect, very strongly, that the

Re: DIS: unregulation

2019-06-16 Thread Rebecca
The regulated action would be breaching a contract you consented to, which is unlawful under the rules. It wouldn't matter what was in the contract. I think any reasonable human judge would rule as such. On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 12:40 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On 6/16/2019 6:10 PM, Rebecca

DIS: Re: BUS: Zombie auction status (unofficial report)

2019-06-10 Thread Rebecca
i bid 8 coins On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:06 PM James Cook wrote: > There is one ongoing zombie auction. > > Lots: > 1. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > 2. Corona > 3. Hālian > 4. Tarhalindur > > Bids: > 2019-06-07T17:01Z. Rance. 7 Coins. > 2019-06-08T00:59Z. omd. 10 Coins. > 2019-06-10T08:17Z.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Rebecca
i favor this one On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:28 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On general principle - yep! The Rules can delegate to other documents like > that. A good example is Tournaments (R2464) where winning is delegated - > at times we've allowed tournaments to hold/award Coins and change

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on Blots

2019-06-10 Thread Rebecca
; Jason Cobb > > On 6/10/19 8:53 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > i favor this one > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 10:28 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On general principle - yep! The Rules can delegate to other documents > like > >> that. A good example is T

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2019-06-17 Thread Rebecca
CoE: there is no astronomor or clork post te sidegame suspension act On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 7:18 PM Edward Murphy wrote: > =Metareport= > You can find an up-to-date version of this report at > http://zenith.homelinux.net/adop/report.php > > Date of last report: 2019-05-19 > Date of

Re: DIS: Fwd: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3736 assigned to omd

2019-06-18 Thread Rebecca
Oh sorry! You're right, go ahead. On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 11:52 PM D. Margaux wrote: > R. Lee-- Is this not the operative decision on Cfj 3736? Seems to hold that > CHOJ is broken. > > -- Forwarded message - > From: omd > Date: Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 12:43 AM > Subject: Re: BUS:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Making an Oath

2019-06-18 Thread Rebecca
There is a directly on point CFJ in re pledges and that "no prohibition" clause, that being 3538. To quote it "I agree that the pledge, if effective, would be a severe enough restriction on V.J. Rada's participation in the Fora as to run afoul of Rule 478 (as even though e is not strictly

DIS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] Forbes 500 (revised)

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
It wasn't a claim of error, so don't claim money for this! On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:06 PM James Cook wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 01:16, Jason Cobb wrote: > > This is wrong, but I don't know if it counts because it is in a purely > > informational section: > > > > > Jason Cobb + 2c.

DIS: Re: OFF: I'm broke!

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
This CFJ shouldn't be a CFJ, just find the messages where this happened or self-ratifying reports making Baron have 0 coins at the time e bid, and then draw that to the attention of the auctioneer and treasuror. Making the judge do that wastes their time. On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:40 PM David

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulated actions reform

2019-06-19 Thread Rebecca
> > > > That would require rewriting the tournaments wording, and it's kind of > > close to the Birthday tournament to be doing that. > > > > Jason Cobb > > > > On 6/19/19 11:38 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > > what if you repeal regulations and change

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulated actions reform

2019-06-19 Thread Rebecca
what if you repeal regulations and change regulations to mean this On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:38 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > I would suggest "regulating", but I feel like that could easily get > confused with regulations. > > > Jason Cobb > > On 6/19/19 11:24 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > I'd

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulated actions reform

2019-06-19 Thread Rebecca
Basically I like this proposal, which is good (although Oaths should also be binding, right?) but I can't vote for it unless it slashes and burns rules mwa ha ha. On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:49 PM Rebecca wrote: > If they've never been useful in the past... I don't see a future use for >

Re: DIS: Future of Regulations (was [proto] regulated actions reform)

2019-06-19 Thread Rebecca
for regulations to exist, but I'd like > them to be used. If there's something that can be done to make it so > people actually start using them more widely (where appropriate, of > course), I'd like to do it. > > -Aris > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 8:49 PM Rebecca wrote: > > &

DIS: Re: BUS: Some catch-up actions

2019-06-19 Thread Rebecca
A CFJ did hold that blots can't be expunged, yes. On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 2:26 PM Edward Murphy wrote: > I earn 5 coins for publishing the latest ADoP report. > > I expunge my Blot (if I can, which I suspect I can't). > > Notice of Honour: > -1 Murphy (dragging heels on Prime Minister election)

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulated actions reform

2019-06-19 Thread Rebecca
I hope we actually have a birthday tournament that works this year though On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:43 PM Rebecca wrote: > tournaments should just be contracts with special powers anyway. > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:40 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > >> That would require rewriti

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulated actions reform

2019-06-19 Thread Rebecca
tournaments should just be contracts with special powers anyway. On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 1:40 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > That would require rewriting the tournaments wording, and it's kind of > close to the Birthday tournament to be doing that. > > Jason Cobb > > On 6/19/19 11:38

DIS: Re: BUS: Auction bids due! Attn Baron von Vaderham, omd, Rance, R. Lee

2019-06-19 Thread Rebecca
(I argue that although this conditional appears to rest on a future CFJ's interpretation, making it inextricable, there is objectively only one "law" which judges in the Agoran system merely discover, so this conditional should work) On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 7:31 AM Rebecca wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
just hold that to limit encompasses SHALL NOT, that's clearly what it means and it fits well within the confines of "limit" and doesn't break the game. On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 9:58 PM D. Margaux wrote: > I offer this proto for comment. > > *** > > Judge Trigon recused emself believing that no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
s to this case, where the rule takes two methods of "limiting" actions, impossibility and illegality. Limit, not being a term of art, easily encompasses both. On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 10:53 PM Rebecca wrote: > just hold that to limit encompasses SHALL NOT, that's clearly what it &

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
omd found th On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 3:27 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Nice find - thanks! > > On 6/20/2019 10:19 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > omd pointed out this CFJ [0] that decided that "interpeting the rules" > means > > to do it in a formal setting rather than just reading them and thinking, >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
Whoops sorry, that was non sens On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 7:16 AM Rebecca wrote: > omd found th > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 3:27 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> >> Nice find - thanks! >> >> On 6/20/2019 10:19 AM, Jason Cobb wrote: >> > omd pointed ou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
I can find more reputable dictionaries but "limit" is certainly capacious enough to include a prohibition by law. For example if Congress "limits" campaign finance donations, it doesn't physically stops them, it prohibits them. On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:30 PM Rebecca wrot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
12:31 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I maintain that a SHALL NOT limits the permissibility of an action, not its > performance. If the rule referred to a limit on an action, rather than the > performance of an action, I might agree with you. > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3737: non-binding agoran decision

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
I mean it's totally informal, so I hereby decree instant run-off and vote TRUE, IRRELEVANT On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 2:38 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > If we’re doing this, it should be instant runoff. > > -Aris > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 9

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
wrote: > > I’m for this solution. Moots are kinda lousy at consensus building, due > to > > the limited number of voting options. > > > > -Aris > > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 8:39 PM Rebecca > wrote: > > > >> why don't we just judge this cfj

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
eans to do. On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:18 PM Reuben Staley wrote: > Using your interpretation of "limit" would certainly get us out of this > specific case, but it would set some ugly precendent about the word that > I'm not sure I'm comfortable with. > > On 6/20/19

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
I agree with omd. Once again, the only good solution is to follow my interpretation of the word "limit". Additionally, I strongly object to whoever called this CFJ being granted a win by paradox, because they haven't found an actual paradox! On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 9:57 AM omd wrote: > On Thu,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
The definition as verb is to " set or serve as a limit (the noun) to" so it's just the same On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:29 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > That's the definition of "limit" as a noun, not a verb. Rule 2125 > clearly uses it as a verb. > > Jason Cobb > &

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
why don't we just judge this cfj irrelevant because no consequences can be imposed for any crimes anyway, and nobody would sign such a stupid contract as the one at issue here, and then moot the issue by passing a fix proposal On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:34 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > Why would this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement of CFJ 3737

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
ibing > unregulated actions. > > (because "interpreting rules" is something we all do continuously in an > unregulated fashion, whenever we play the game). > > On 6/20/2019 6:01 AM, Rebecca wrote: > > See eg. CFJ 3635 where I held that "allowed" generally mea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Deregulation

2019-06-21 Thread Rebecca
I would oppose this because of my usual opposition to rules that state things that are obvious and known by all, the fact that I am Oath-bound to vote AGAINST proposals that add net text, and the fact that rules are not fun and implied doctrines are very fun. On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 2:33 PM Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Deregulation

2019-06-21 Thread Rebecca
thing. Implicit doctrines create messes. They have > their place, but they should be codified and made binding law. > > -Aris > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 9:45 PM Rebecca wrote: > > > > I would oppose this because of my usual opposition to rules that state > > things th

Re: DIS: Proto: Deregulation, but less so

2019-06-22 Thread Rebecca
Well, one of the many such precedents stretching back forever. On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 4:00 PM ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk < ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 22:57 -0700, omd wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 10:53 PM Jason Cobb > wrote: > > > In my view, "inherent

Re: DIS: Proto: Deregulation, but less so

2019-06-22 Thread Rebecca
Does any language have inherent meaning? :thinking: On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 5:07 PM omd wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:12 PM Aris Merchant > wrote: > > I think you’re making it worse rather than better. I’d drop the “with no > > inherent meaning” bit; a judge could easily interpret it to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election Intents

2019-06-21 Thread Rebecca
emain as Promotor, if the public doesn’t mind. > > >> > > >> -Aris > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 4:40 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > >> > > >>> I support the intent for ADoP. > > >>> > > >>> If any non-incumb

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The ruleset is too long so

2019-06-21 Thread Rebecca
Don't be sorry for interpreting the rules! I say this only because it's just what I've always remembered. Also I've taken the office so it doesn't matter now! On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 12:55 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > Ah sorry about that then. > > Jason Cobb > > On 6/21/19 10:53 PM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election Intents

2019-06-21 Thread Rebecca
gt;> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I would like to remain as Promotor, if the public doesn’t mind. > >>>> > >>>> -Aris > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 4:40 PM Kerim Aydin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Election Intents

2019-06-21 Thread Rebecca
You could still bribe them with getting a win in the scam, if it's proposal based. Maybe with the text "X gets a win, then Y gets a win", therefore making the scammer the speaker. This is actually my one regret with the one time I win the game, I should have made me win last haha. On Sat, Jun 22,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The ruleset is too long so

2019-06-21 Thread Rebecca
ion depends on support, the performer has supported > the > >>>intent, and the rule authorizing the performance does > not > >>>explicitly prohibit supporters from performing it; > >> Rule 2598 ("Side-Game Suspension&qu

Re: DIS: Proto: Timeline Control Ordnance

2019-06-21 Thread Rebecca
CFJs are technically nonbinding, platonically, so a SHOULD is fine. On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 1:53 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > A few small nitpicks: > > > On the objective timeline, the consequences of an action or event > Consistent capitalization please :) > > > > and cannot be retroactively

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: I'm broke!

2019-06-20 Thread Rebecca
Correct! Unfortunately there is no remedy for illegal things right now bc no CHoJ. Soo...shrug? On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:47 AM James Cook wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 06:40, David Seeber > wrote: > > I cfj the following > > > > {Baron von Vaderham's bid of 11 coins in the most recent

Re: DIS: Seriously, what do you guys think about the Revival of Spaaace?

2019-06-22 Thread Rebecca
(That's why I've made a proposal to create spaceships, yeah) Can you find the message where we ratified out the space ru On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:42 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On 6/22/2019 7:19 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > Does the previous state of spce carry over or does

Re: DIS: Seriously, what do you guys think about the Revival of Spaaace?

2019-06-22 Thread Rebecca
Or i mean i could do that it does seem like my job On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:45 PM Rebecca wrote: > Sorry, I meant the space rules? That would enable me to recall the CFJ I > filed. > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:44 PM Rebecca wrote: > >> (That's why I've made a proposal

Re: DIS: Seriously, what do you guys think about the Revival of Spaaace?

2019-06-22 Thread Rebecca
Sorry, I meant the space rules? That would enable me to recall the CFJ I filed. On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:44 PM Rebecca wrote: > (That's why I've made a proposal to create spaceships, yeah) > > Can you find the message where we ratified out the space ru > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2019-06-22 Thread Rebecca
"ha who reads things when they can just complain instead" - me On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 12:13 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I thought Proposal 8181 did that? > > -Aris > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 7:11 PM Rebecca wrote: > >

DIS: Seriously, what do you guys think about the Revival of Spaaace?

2019-06-22 Thread Rebecca
Does the previous state of spce carry over or does it all reset? Are you planning to battle your spces? discuss today -- >From R. Lee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 8177

2019-06-23 Thread Rebecca
e section "D. Margaux's attempt to ratify without objection > failed." in my judgement of CFJ 3726 at > https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3726 > > On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 02:47, Rebecca wrote: > > > > Awesome. I withdraw my pending CFJ with th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: that pesky empty set again

2019-06-24 Thread Rebecca
i favour this On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 6:13 PM omd wrote: > On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 3:40 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > CFJ: An Agoran decision to select the winner of the election has > > a voting method of AI-Majority. > > > > Rule 1950 (Decisions with Adoption Indices, Power=3): > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pending judicial actions

2019-06-11 Thread Rebecca
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:16 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:53 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > Please review if you have an interest in a pending case - did I miss > anything? > > > > Cases listed open in the Court Gazette May 27 > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: pending judicial actions

2019-06-11 Thread Rebecca
ID numbers are entirely informal so anyone can assign them if they like. On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:31 AM Rebecca wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:16 AM Aris Merchant < > thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:53 PM Kerim Ayd

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8180-8187

2019-06-12 Thread Rebecca
It wouldn't gut contracts because anything specified by a Contract _is_ regulated under the rules. It's just designed to prohibit _criminal_ liability for "interpret[ing]" the rules. On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 1:56 PM James Cook wrote: > On Proposals 8180 through 8187 I vote as follows, where

DIS: Re: BUS: Breaking an Oath

2019-06-16 Thread Rebecca
Gratuitous Argument The Pledge rule states that "N is 2 unless the pledge explicitly states otherwise". But it doesn't say what N is when the pledge _does_ explicitly state otherwise. Therefore, N is indeterminate and there is no explicit Class for this crime, so it defaults to a base value of 2.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8058-8065

2019-06-18 Thread Rebecca
Oh it was rejected. Never mind! On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 8:26 PM Rebecca wrote: > Hey guys, see that "IAR writs repeal proposal, which I think passed? Why is > that still in the ruleset? > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:28 AM Edward Murphy wrote: > > > > 8058* V.J. R

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3739 Assigned to Falsifian

2019-06-18 Thread Rebecca
Gratuitous argument. Even if "deputisation" or "temporary deputisation" are totally distinct categories, the Cyan Ribbon category uses the word "deputises" rather than "deputisation". A person who engages in "temporary deputisation", even if distinct from "deputisation" still engages in the _verb_

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8058-8065

2019-06-18 Thread Rebecca
Hey guys, see that "IAR writs repeal proposal, which I think passed? Why is that still in the ruleset? On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:28 AM Edward Murphy wrote: > > 8058* V.J. Rada 1.0 Medal of Honour Auctions V.J. Rada > AGAINST > > 8059* G. 1.0 honour is its own reward

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Breaking an Oath

2019-06-18 Thread Rebecca
Fines can be levied, surely, per the revised version of CFJ 3736, which says they CAN, but not by announcement On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:13 PM D. Margaux wrote: > As stated, this CFJ is trivially FALSE because no fine CAN be imposed for > anything. Maybe there is a different way to pose the

DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Weekly Report

2019-06-18 Thread Rebecca
As I said, per the revised version of that CFJ, the referee CAN impose the CHoJ, by announcement or some other mechanism On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 10:21 PM D. Margaux wrote: > I publish the below report and claim a 5 coin reward for doing so. > > Referee’s Weekly Report > Date of This Report:

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