Re: [css-d] Sticky Menus

2005-12-15 Thread Christian Heilmann
> > Hmm, I beg to differ. There is a nice way to handle this, using just CSS: > > > > http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200503/setting_the_current_menu_state_with_css/ > > That's exactly the same as what I was saying. The identification of > the current page is in the markup. It has to be scri

Re: [css-d] Sticky Menus

2005-12-15 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/15/05, matt andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16/12/05, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/15/05, MocaLoca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am fresh trying to start creating clean standard sites and I always have > > > trouble with sticky menus. I mean the down sta

[css-d] overflow bug

2005-12-15 Thread jamie cantrell
I've been Playing around with the overflow property trying to scroll my div content over a non-scrolling background image. Have it working in Netscape,Opera 8, Firefox 1.5, and safari, but in IE the content scrolls fine but image does as well. When I set background position to fixed it br

[css-d] content over flow

2005-12-15 Thread Dustin Krysak
Hi there - more of a "tinker" type person with css, and had the following code: * { padding: 0px; margin: 0px; } html, body { height: 100%; width: 100%; } div#bg { border: medium solid #FF; height: 100%; width: 650px; } div#bgBo

Re: [css-d] Compuserve 7.0

2005-12-15 Thread Richard Grevers
On 12/13/05, Ingo Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josine Krant wrote: > > If Compuserve 7.0 is not IE6, what is it ? > > > Google says it's a gecko engine. According to [1], the user agent string > of Compuserve 7 is > > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4.2) Gecko/20020502 CS > 2000

Re: [css-d] Sticky Menus

2005-12-15 Thread matt andrews
On 16/12/05, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/15/05, MocaLoca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am fresh trying to start creating clean standard sites and I always have > > trouble with sticky menus. I mean the down state that sticks on the next > > page clicked. > > If you mean

Re: [css-d] Sticky Menus

2005-12-15 Thread MocaLoca
Hi, Yes I realize is not the topic, I thought there was a css only way of doing with maybe some JavaScript that I was not aware of. I did get some great offline help about it. Thanks anyway :) MocaLoca Digital Media Artist --- www.mocaloca.com 305.926.

Re: [css-d] Sticky Menus

2005-12-15 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/15/05, MocaLoca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am fresh trying to start creating clean standard sites and I always have > trouble with sticky menus. I mean the down state that sticks on the next > page clicked. If you mean menus that have the link to the current page styled differently, that

Re: [css-d] Sticky Menus

2005-12-15 Thread David Laakso
MocaLoca wrote: >This is my first post here, please forgive my ignorance :-) >I am fresh trying to start creating clean standard sites and I always have >trouble with sticky menus. I mean the down state that sticks on the next >page clicked. >What is the best practice? What is your preference? A

Re: [css-d] div heights issues

2005-12-15 Thread David Laakso
Tanya Renne wrote: >Can anyone pin point the issue that is causing the third column on this >page to be slightly shorter than the first? >http://www.orchidsuites.net/homefree/ >-Tanya- > One method you may want to consider is using background images to create faux columns. This and other method

Re: [css-d] can this behavior be beaten out of IE

2005-12-15 Thread Rob Agar
hi Lori > Is there any way to get IE6 to honor the css attribute > 'min-width', or a > way to script, hack or cheat some version of it? As it happens, I was reading* about a way of doing this yesterday. The trick was to use a javascript expression in the css, which IE apparently supports. e.g

[css-d] can this behavior be beaten out of IE

2005-12-15 Thread Lori K. Brown
Dear Listers: Is there any way to get IE6 to honor the css attribute 'min-width', or a way to script, hack or cheat some version of it? Context? I'm working on a layout that has three small content blocks that should sit next to each other. -

Re: [css-d] [REPOST] IE6 - top margin too large

2005-12-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rachael Beale wrote: > I'm not sure if I didn't get any replies previously because the > solution is really obvious to everyone else... but it's certainly not > obvious to me, and I am being badgered to hand over this template! > I've Googled and searched the Wiki and am no closer to understandi

Re: [css-d] css speed

2005-12-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 16 Dec 2005, at 12:06 am, Adam Kuehn wrote: >> My second questions is related to that, dose anyone know of any >> resources on writing more optimised css. For example I was just >> reading on this list in the talk comparing class to id and there was >> mention there was performance difference

Re: [css-d] table and min-width

2005-12-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 16 Dec 2005, at 8:21 am, Justin Makeig wrote: > I can't seem to get the min-width property to have any effect on an > XHTML table element. width does what I would expect it to do, but min > and max-width seem to do nothing in Firefox 1.5 and Safari 2.0.2. (Of > course, they do nothing in IE Wi

[css-d] table and min-width

2005-12-15 Thread Justin Makeig
I can't seem to get the min-width property to have any effect on an XHTML table element. width does what I would expect it to do, but min and max-width seem to do nothing in Firefox 1.5 and Safari 2.0.2. (Of course, they do nothing in IE Win, but that's another thread.) My problem is that I

[css-d] div heights issues

2005-12-15 Thread Tanya Renne
Can anyone pin point the issue that is causing the third column on this page to be slightly shorter than the first? http://www.orchidsuites.net/homefree/ -Tanya- -- Tanya Renne, CEO, ORCHID SUITES, Inc. Online tools to engage your constituency, build capa

[css-d] Flexible Width Layout -- Simple Page Problems

2005-12-15 Thread Robin Whitman
Hello all and thanks in advance. I'm looking at this page with Firefox browser (for Windows): http://www.gurdonbrewster.com/209index.html Already I have two problems: 1. The left side of the page has a white space gap down the left margin: How can I get the page to fill up the browser, just lik

[css-d] Right Img Header problem

2005-12-15 Thread videoscott1
After a long hiatus from web design here I am again depending on this great list of people, and swamped with too many things at once. I've tried for hours to diminishing returns for sleep, PLEase help! I would really appreciate any help I can get to get this design working in IE doze. It works

Re: [css-d] [REPOST] IE6 - top margin too large

2005-12-15 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Rachael Beale wrote: >Page: >CSS: > >In IE6, the top margin of #centrecontent appears to be measured from >the bottom of the navigation div, which means there is a large white >gap b

[css-d] anchor doesn't receive focus in firefox 1.5

2005-12-15 Thread Manfred Staudinger
Hi list, This following can be demonstrated with (currently for _fx_only_) page http://free.pages.at/staudinger/Regest/Indices/Index.html The anchor E on the left side E will receive focus in firefox 1.0.4+ when anchor E from the top line E is clicked - but not in firefox 1.5. Is the change inte

Re: [css-d] Faux Columns

2005-12-15 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Stephen Kortz wrote: >I am building Faux Columns. In Fireworks I made a document that is 10 pixels >tall and 2000 pixels wide to start the process. My question is: how do I >transfer my Fireworks document to my CSS file that I am working with? This >idea has me baffled. I'm sure that there is a si

Re: [css-d] Page not stretching across in Firefox

2005-12-15 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Shawn Ferguson wrote: >Could you help me figure out why this is happening? The page looks fine >in IE (of course) but when I view it in Firefox, it doesn't stretch >across the page. Take a look and if you can help, please do: >http://www.jardsenterprises.com/isom > > Seems to be filling the

[css-d] [ADMIN - OFFTOPIC] Re: Flash or No Flash switch?

2005-12-15 Thread Alex Robinson
OK, that's enough on this never on topic thread. Next person to mention flash is toast. Let's stick to CSS. A grumpy css-d moderator __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/F

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

2005-12-15 Thread Jesse Skinner
Ya, for sure. It might as well be something you can actually use instead of wasting bandwidth. I think it would be best to use whichever image is largest on the page, one that will be on the page anyway, to give you the best estimate. Chances are this would be your flash replacement image. Jess

Re: [css-d] Clickable image

2005-12-15 Thread Jesse Skinner
You can set the image to be the background of the a tag. With your code, that would look something like this: #nh{ display:block; position:absolute; top:150px; left:20px; width:191px; height:87px; overflow:hidden; text-indent:-200px; background: url(/media/image/nh_logo

Re: [css-d] Clickable image

2005-12-15 Thread Jim Ryan
Thanks to everyone who replied. You were most helpful. The page is up and clickable and the image replacement technique is filed away for future reference. thanks again, Jim -Original Message- From: Christian Heilmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:46 AM To

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

2005-12-15 Thread brushstreet-Duke
Hi, duke here Rather than a purely decorative image, couln't the standard gif to be used instead of the Flash, be used and downloaded? Then if the Flash is determined not to be used, the alternate would already be there? duke -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [css-d] maybe I should just use tables, line break before float problem...

2005-12-15 Thread Roger Roelofs
Eric, On Dec 15, 2005, at 4:35 AM, Eric Cash wrote: > I've been ripping my hair out over this for two days straight now, > please help, I need to eat soon. > > Maybe I'm using floats incorrectly, I'm not sure. > > I'm laying out this site with a friend, it's my first collaborative > project, an

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

2005-12-15 Thread Jan Brasna
> (not so nice but it works). Ah, haven't noticed, sorry. This is fine and it works, that's important. > A very large test image would defeat the purpose Sure, that's the reason I wrote earlier that some valuable measuring wouldn't be nice for bandwith. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanu

Re: [css-d] Preloading Background Images

2005-12-15 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/15/05, Kevin Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:54:43AM -0500, Christian Montoya wrote:> > > You can preload images, just use your imagination, load them off > > screen with position:absolute; and give them a size of nothing. But I > > really discourage that. > > Y

Re: [css-d] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FrontPage Hacked

2005-12-15 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Felix Miata wrote: >:-( > > FrontPage >FrontPage | RecentChanges | Preferences > >WIKIISGAY Well, it's a Wiki, you can fix it... I've restored the FrontPage. -- Björn Höhrmann · mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] · http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de Weinh. Str. 22 · Telefon: +49(0)621/4309674 · http://www.bjoern

Re: [css-d] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FrontPage Hacked

2005-12-15 Thread Dan McCullough
Thats a shame :( On 12/15/05, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > :-( > > FrontPage > FrontPage | RecentChanges | Preferences > > WIKIISGAY > > WIKIISGAY > > WIKIISGAY > > WIKIISGAY > > WIKIISGAY > > WIKIISGAY > > WIKIISGAY > > WIKIISGAY > -- > Jesus Christ is the reason for the season. > >

[css-d] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FrontPage Hacked

2005-12-15 Thread Felix Miata
:-( FrontPage FrontPage | RecentChanges | Preferences WIKIISGAY WIKIISGAY WIKIISGAY WIKIISGAY WIKIISGAY WIKIISGAY WIKIISGAY WIKIISGAY -- Jesus Christ is the reason for the season. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ _

Re: [css-d] Flash or No Flash switch?

2005-12-15 Thread Jesse Skinner
> 25kB is a small smaple to test it responsibly. Some latency may distort > the measurment. The image can also get cached. In the article, I suggest avoiding caching by appending a random URL parameter to the image (not so nice but it works). As for the size, it will have to depend on the situa

[css-d] [REPOST] IE6 - top margin too large

2005-12-15 Thread Rachael Beale
Hello, I'm not sure if I didn't get any replies previously because the solution is really obvious to everyone else... but it's certainly not obvious to me, and I am being badgered to hand over this template! I've Googled and searched the Wiki and am no closer to understanding what the problem is.

Re: [css-d] Clickable image

2005-12-15 Thread Tobias Baldauf
Jim Ryan schrieb: > I've redesigned this formerly-tabled page in all-css--something the tech > guys at the company's forward-looking CMS tell me they refuse to support(!!) > http://www.childrensaidsociety.org/newheights/ > > If you look at the "new heights" logo on the upper left of the layout,it'

Re: [css-d] Clickable image

2005-12-15 Thread Christian Heilmann
> I've redesigned this formerly-tabled page in all-css--something the tech > guys at the company's forward-looking CMS tell me they refuse to support(!!) > http://www.childrensaidsociety.org/newheights/ > > If you look at the "new heights" logo on the upper left of the layout,it's a > background im

[css-d] Clickable image

2005-12-15 Thread Jim Ryan
I've redesigned this formerly-tabled page in all-css--something the tech guys at the company's forward-looking CMS tell me they refuse to support(!!) http://www.childrensaidsociety.org/newheights/ If you look at the "new heights" logo on the upper left of the layout,it's a background image, but I'

Re: [css-d] css speed

2005-12-15 Thread Adam Kuehn
kenny heaton wrote: >I've heard talk about how much faster css is at rendering pages than >table layouts, but I've never seen the proof (actual statistics). I >was wondering if anyone knew of a study on this. I don't think a general study is possible, since the rendering time depends largely on e

Re: [css-d] links not clickable in Safari

2005-12-15 Thread Erik Visser
David Hucklesby wrote: > Erik Visser wrote: >>it is fixed > > Would you like to share with us how you fixed it? this: http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/59082 brought me to this: http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/float_negative_margins/ that did it in my case Erik _

[css-d] list alignment auto fit

2005-12-15 Thread Scott Hamm
I'm working on my new web using FireFox as a tool to design my CSS. Currently IE is broken (steps) and will be worked on later. For now, I need to figure out a way to automatically fit the menu list into the remaining width (on right side). The content in that list will change and would like for

[css-d] Sticky Menus

2005-12-15 Thread MocaLoca
Hi Everyone, This is my first post here, please forgive my ignorance :-) I am fresh trying to start creating clean standard sites and I always have trouble with sticky menus. I mean the down state that sticks on the next page clicked. What is the best practice? What is your preference?

Re: [css-d] wrapping a list around an image

2005-12-15 Thread Ari Davidow
> > I played around with the code, and was somewhat shocked to find this > > solution: > > > > ul { display: inline; } > > > > Aren't lists always displayed inline? No matter, it fixes your IE6/Win > > problems. I haven't tested on a Mac though, but I would image/hope it > > would have no effect.

Re: [css-d] Preloading Background Images

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Cannon
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 11:54:43AM -0500, Christian Montoya wrote: > On 12/13/05, Kevin Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not that keen on combining the 6 images into 1 large one and changing > > the > > background position, as that would mean the homepage would take too long to > > appear

Re: [css-d] Preloading Background Images

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Cannon
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 09:38:05AM -0600, CJ Larson wrote: > > Is it possible to preload the images in anyway, via CSS or Javascript? > > I'm not that keen on combining the 6 images into 1 large one and > changing the > > background position, as that would mean the homepage would take too > long t

Re: [css-d] Weirdest IE bug I've ever seen

2005-12-15 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> Hi folks, > > Is this a known bug? I've got a colleague who has a series of DIVs as > follows: > This is the IE duplicate characters bug, described in detail at: HTH, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/

Re: [css-d] Weirdest IE bug I've ever seen

2005-12-15 Thread Choan C. Gálvez
Spike Spencer wrote: > Is this a known bug? I've got a colleague who has a series of DIVs as > follows: > > http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";> > > > > aa > > > > bb > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > And this CSS: > [...] > .aa > { > width: 700px; > height:

Re: [css-d] Weirdest IE bug I've ever seen

2005-12-15 Thread Spike Spencer
Hi folks, Is this a known bug? I've got a colleague who has a series of DIVs as follows: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";> aa bb ff cc dd This is an entire sentence, captain. Please have a safe flight. And this CSS: * { margin:0; padding

[css-d] Firefox slipping? Float issues? Margin?

2005-12-15 Thread Tanya Renne
I having trouble getting this site: http://www.writingworkbook.com - to behave in firefox (PC). The top part of the screen sorts of falls open. I'm using negative margins to move the nav up the screen - is that the problem? Fine in NS and IE. -- Tanya --

[css-d] maybe I should just use tables, line break before float problem...

2005-12-15 Thread Eric Cash
I've been ripping my hair out over this for two days straight now, please help, I need to eat soon. Maybe I'm using floats incorrectly, I'm not sure. I'm laying out this site with a friend, it's my first collaborative project, and it's still in the early stages, I apologize for the messy css,

Re: [css-d] wrapping a list around an image

2005-12-15 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> Hi Ari, > > I played around with the code, and was somewhat shocked to find this > solution: > > ul { display: inline; } > > Aren't lists always displayed inline? No matter, it fixes your IE6/Win > problems. I haven't tested on a Mac though, but I would image/hope it > would have no effect. > No

Re: [css-d] wrapping a list around an image

2005-12-15 Thread jesse
Hi Ari, I played around with the code, and was somewhat shocked to find this solution: ul { display: inline; } Aren't lists always displayed inline? No matter, it fixes your IE6/Win problems. I haven't tested on a Mac though, but I would image/hope it would have no effect. Cheers, Jesse Skinne

Re: [css-d] wrapping a list around an image

2005-12-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 15 Dec 2005, at 1:56 pm, Roger Roelofs wrote: >> Ah, I went only halfway there when I redefined the element. I >> needed to zero out as well. But this still doesn't work in >> IE6/Win. Looks perfect in Firefox1.0x/Win. Doesn't work in Safari/ >> OSX. > > I can't test in ie/win (I'm on a mac