Re: [css-d] DIV question

2005-11-03 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, November 3, 2005, 2:06:45 AM, Jason Benefield wrote: > I need the DIV to expand to the ends of the image width, but I do not > want the text below the image to extend past the edges of the image This is generally called "shrink wrapping". These examples should give you a few ideas: http

Re: [css-d] Replicating tables and onion skinning gone crazy

2005-11-03 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, November 3, 2005, 1:19:18 AM, Graham Reeds wrote: > css and use background images for it. However that would mean 8 > background divs for each element that require the border effect - and There are tons [1] of custom border techniques out there. I made one based on 4 DIVs and 2 images

Re: [css-d] Header's inline display and alignment

2005-11-07 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, November 7, 2005, 7:08:22 AM, Adriano Castro wrote: > It's a bit of a conundrum because I need "display: inline" for both > elements to begin on the same line but Not necessarily. Blocks can be on the same line, too. >>> Title >>> Subtitle date >>>li

[css-d] OT: CSSVista = free CSS editor for winXP

2005-11-09 Thread Steve Clay
http://www.sitevista.com/cssvista/ Haven't tried it yet, but appears to be a nice gift to CSS architects running XP. "CSSVista is a free Windows application for web developers which lets you edit your CSS code live in both Internet Explorer and Firefox simultaneously." It's alpha software (accord

Re: [css-d] IE 5.0 Windows problem

2005-11-09 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 12:34:07 PM, Michael Angeles wrote: > header and the links are not clickable in Windows IE 5.0. Does anyone My guess is that it is the height specified on the anchor: > #header #nav1 #menu1 li, #header #nav1 #menu1 li a { >height: 27px; >display: block; >b

Re: [css-d] Styling COL and COLGROUP

2005-11-10 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 10:01:21 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > .myclass {text-align: center} > td:first-child+td+td {text-align: center} /* the 3rd column */ > ***But***, and here IE is buggy again, you *cannot* group those > selector, else IE doesn't recognise the .myclass selector. I

Re: [css-d] Styling COL and COLGROUP

2005-11-10 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, November 10, 2005, 1:27:55 PM, CJ Larson wrote: > Making a colgroup for this city *one* time and being done with it is the > intuitive thing to do, but since it doesn't work... "problem". Have you tried it? http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StylingColumns (Combination method)

Re: [css-d] Styling COL and COLGROUP

2005-11-10 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, November 10, 2005, 1:59:25 PM, Dan Kletter wrote: > Drawback is colgroup is only supported by IE and limited to width, > border, background and visibility styles. Thanks to it's non-standard layout engine IE doesn't have these limitations on styling via COL. Nor do CSS2 browsers styling

Re: [css-d] how to represent a 2 column grid/table using CSS?

2005-11-18 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, November 18, 2005, 12:24:47 PM, Gale Stafford wrote: > I tried representing this using floats in CSS. It looks fine in IE and > Firefox. But when I decrease the text size in Firefox, my floats start > moving up and around > http://tinyurl.com/cpfgl > And here's a link to my CSS > http://tin

Re: [css-d] floating an image bottom right

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, May 12, 2005, 7:05:35 AM, Jeroen van der Goorbergh wrote: > I'm looking for a way to position an image in the bottom right corner > of a fluid height container and still have text wrap around it. > http://www.xs4all.nl/~jer03n/sandbox/float-bottom-right.html http://mrclay.org/web_design/

Re[2]: [css-d] IE is the bestest!

2005-05-20 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, May 20, 2005, 11:11:52 AM, Paul Seale wrote: > Does that IE ONLY tag really only work when IE reads the code or is what you > are writing a hypothetical example? http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/css_only/star_html.html "* html " target all IE (including mac), so the hack is too inclusiv

Re: [css-d] Rowspan problem

2005-05-20 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, May 20, 2005, 11:31:11 AM, Michael Cassidy wrote: > > Conklin St. Nazareth > Trade School > > Anyone see a way around this besides letting it look ugly in Explorer? Maybe I'm missing something, but have you tried setting background: in a style attribute (valid) instead of bgcolor? St

Re: [css-d] Flyout nav hack

2005-05-24 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, May 23, 2005, 1:49:03 PM, Peter Charles wrote: > Could some one explain to me how the following selectors work? > w\idth: 220px; > mar\gin-left: 0; http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/css_only/simplified_box_model.html Generally you escape the first inner letter that isn't in [a-f]. ma\rgi

Re: [css-d] Pure CSS Popups IE Problem...

2005-06-02 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 9:46:21 PM, Les Mizzell wrote: > I'm experimenting with the Pure CSS popups idea from myerweb. > http://www.happybookseller.com/DEV/events.cfm > However, doesn't work at all in I.E. IE/win bug. You need to set one of a few properties on a:hover. I'm pretty sure border is

Re[2]: [css-d] semi OT, using css or JS to hide stuff

2005-06-02 Thread Steve Clay
Scott Haneda wrote: >I have a set of two forms on a page: >billing info and shipping info, there is a checkbox that says "make my >shipping info match my billing info. If that box gets checked, I want to >hide the second form. This would be a good application of CSS3's :checked pseudo-class. http

[css-d] float weirdness in IE/mac

2005-06-14 Thread Steve Clay
http://miamiartlessons.com/ Anyone know how I can fix this for IE/mac? I /think/ it might be: http://www.macedition.com/cb/ie5macbugs/#floatwidthbug Since my content is right-floated, then, following, is my navigation DIV in normal flow with a width. But what's the safest way to fix? Float the n

Re[2]: [work] [css-d] Site Check: stephenjoneslaw.com

2005-07-15 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, July 14, 2005, 2:19:50 PM, Hershel Robinson wrote: >> http://www.stephenjoneslaw.com/home > IMHO the main part of the page is quite skinny. Furthermore, on my 17" > 1024 pixel monitor, the text at default size on FF is very small. Agreed. Great design, but more comfortable after I shot

Re: [css-d] Uberlinks...

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, July 19, 2005, 10:28:02 PM, Theresa Mesa wrote: > Navigation is in SSI. **I'd like to keep it there.** So your navigation markup can't change. This means on every page some CSS or other markup must change (or some Javascript must change something--we won't get into that). I believe the

Re[2]: [css-d] Uberlinks...

2005-07-20 Thread Steve Clay
Doh. Sorry Teresa (and Al), I didn't get the latest CSS-d digest until a second ago and noticed Al had already covered the case of fixed navigation markup last night. You can ignore my message. Being on digest is so yesterday. Tuesday, July 19, 2005, 11:43:36 PM, Al Sparber wrote: > Use a body I

Re: [css-d] floating w/ 3 col help

2005-07-21 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, July 21, 2005, 1:44:15 AM, Brian Cummiskey wrote: > i'm trying to prove a friend wrong that his table/css design is not the > way to do it... so I took it upon myself to show him how its done If he doesn't see the advantage of semantic markup enough to start learning CSS on his own, tha

Re: [css-d] arranging for "boxes"

2005-07-26 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, July 26, 2005, 9:53:17 AM, Scot Schlinger wrote: > I am trying to arrange four "box" division such that 1 and 2 are in the > first row and 3 and 4 are in the second row. Start with the first two. You want a 2-column CSS layout based on floating 1 to the left then 2 to the right. See: htt

Re: [css-d] BIR Bob Image Replacement - (z-index & stack order probs)

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 4:54:21 PM, Rebecca Cox wrote: > involves giving a negative z index to the text you want to hide behind a > background image. > I have found it OK as long as you don't want to specify a background color > - see samples at http://www.reb.net.nz/csstests/ This was propose

Re[2]: [css-d] BIR Bob Image Replacement - (z-index & stack order probs)

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, July 28, 2005, 12:26:11 PM, Chris Vannoy wrote: > To get it to work with other backgrounds, I just set a z-index of 1 > to the body and the wrap that surrounds the fixed-width, centered > layout and a z-index of -1 to the H1 span. I made a test page for this: http://wd.mrclay.org/tests

Re: [css-d] faux columns need a border and curved look

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, July 28, 2005, 4:02:09 PM, Scot Schlinger wrote: > This is how I would like it to look: > http://www.rell.com/test/index1.html > This is how it looks currently: > http://www.rell.com/test/index.html Place another wrapper DIV inside #wrapper, let's call it #wrapper-inner. Now a background

Re: [css-d] CSS Image Map Popup Dysfunctional with Netscape/Firefox

2005-07-29 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, July 29, 2005, 6:00:08 PM, Mark wrote: > This example works correctly using IE6. The background of the popup > cellspacing="0" > border="0">Popuptext! You can't have a TABLE in an A. Invalid markup = unreliable results. You probably want to use something like http://www.alistapart.com/

Re: [css-d] Newbie needs help PLEASE

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, August 1, 2005, 2:52:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://www.advancedscrollsawpatterns.com/indexwithdiv.htm I get *nothing* in Opera8. The page is invalid: Move this to your CSS so you have Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ : http://frenchhorns.mrclay.org/ _

Re: [css-d] Hovering on text links but not images

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, August 1, 2005, 4:49:35 PM, Lst Recv wrote: > Is there a simple way (without having to give each link a class) of > using CSS to change the background color on text links but not images? CSS can't do it (selectors can't look down the document tree)... OFFTOPIC ...but JS can give those li

Re: [css-d] block element padding ?

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, August 1, 2005, 7:14:07 PM, Timothy wrote: > I've tried line-height variations along with the margin but you don't change the line-height here: > font: bold 1em Verdana, Arial, Geneva, sans-serif; try: font: bold 1em/1 Verdana, Arial, Geneva, sans-serif; but basically with a bigger fon

Re[2]: [css-d] Hovering on text links but not images

2005-08-02 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, August 1, 2005, 10:19:11 PM, Jon Trelfa wrote: > That's no completely correct...CSS, in a way, DOES look at the document > On 8/1/05, Steve Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (selectors can't look down the document tree)... I should have emphasized "

Re[2]: [css-d] Newbie needs help PLEASE

2005-08-02 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, August 1, 2005, 10:51:21 PM, Matthew Ohlman wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think [CDATA sections are] optional. That Optional when serving XHTML as text/html.

Re: [css-d] Can you surround an absolute div with a relative div, but not define a height

2005-08-02 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, August 2, 2005, 12:04:45 PM, Matt Harris wrote: > Is there a way to surround an absolute div (red border) with a relative div > (green border), but not define a height for either? No. Abs. positioned elements are out of document flow; they can't affect elements around them. Is there a p

Re[2]: [css-d] seperation of styles

2005-08-03 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 11:36:27 AM, Scot Schlinger wrote: > media="screen" /> > media="screen" /> > Or is there a different/better way? There are /different/ ways, but there's nothing wrong with having multiple link elements for CSS as you have above. http://meyerweb.com/ has 6 of them. S

Re[2]: [css-d] Negative margin, border dispute in IE Win

2005-08-03 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 6:03:17 PM, Travis wrote: > http://www.j-learning.org/index_working.php > In IE, all boxes get the fourth background. Why's this? How can I fix > it? It doesn't look like a coding error, but all I can do is suggest another technique. Rather than use 4 separate images,

Re: [css-d] Disappearing (sometimes) background - IE/Win

2005-08-03 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, August 3, 2005, 9:10:12 PM, Travis wrote: > http://www.j-learning.org/index_working.php/build_it/ > But in IE for Windows, ...you get peek-a-boo bugs (probably). Most harmless fix: add position:relative to the float and float container. http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/peek

Re: [css-d] Newbie: Trying to center items in a dropdownlist on web form

2005-08-04 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, August 4, 2005, 10:16:02 AM, Lisa Carter wrote: > For the dropdownlist, I attempted to use > select { text-align: center; } - this did not work. http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/form_controls/select/ Particularly the 12th select box is styled with text-align and the screenshots show the

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: IE7

2005-08-04 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, August 4, 2005, 1:40:16 PM, Eric A. Meyer wrote: > Another good discussion would be on hack management-- what are > some good ways to organize style sheets so that hacks are easy to > maintain? A good starting point might be for people who have As one who shudders at the thought o

Re: [css-d] Align text to two different sides of a

2005-08-05 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, August 5, 2005, 1:32:45 PM, Fred Newtz wrote: > Is there anyway I can align two different pieces of text to two different > sides of a ? I tried using and however it is not working > 1. Newtz, Fred Enrolled on: 04/11/2005 Invalid TABLE markup...might I suggest: 1. Newtz, FredEnrolle

Re[2]: [css-d] problem with layout on dell

2005-08-05 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, August 5, 2005, 2:29:44 PM, Scot Schlinger wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a work around or do I have to change my css > to work with different dpi? If so, in either case, what would be the > best way of going about this? Hate to bear the news, but these are uncharted waters. This

Re: [css-d] widths - ie 6, 5.5, 5.0

2005-08-08 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, August 8, 2005, 2:10:48 PM, Denise Hartmann wrote: > IE. Why is 600px wide more narrow in 5.0 than it is in 6.0? http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=BoxModelHack Explains the two "box models". My preferred hack: Modified SBMH (Tan hack) Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ : http://frenchhorns.m

Re: [css-d] Disappearing Background Images in both IE and FF

2005-08-19 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, August 19, 2005, 3:07:28 PM, Valette Ragland wrote: > images disappearing upon a page refresh. I don't even get them the first load in Opera. > HTML and CSS both validate. Any ideas? I believe your problem is the server being flaky or the images being a bit malformed or corrupted. Mayb

Re: [css-d] IE5 thumb hover clickable

2005-08-19 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, August 19, 2005, 3:44:21 PM, cFA wrote: > works just not 5. > http://aenonfiredesign.com/test/iethumbhover/ No worries, the links indeed work in IE5.0, that browser just tends to lose its pointer cursor with blocked links. You'll need to feed the anchor cursor:hand. Following it with c\u

Re[2]: [css-d] IE5 thumb hover clickable

2005-08-20 Thread Steve Clay
Saturday, August 20, 2005, 2:27:51 AM, Bruno wrote: > In IE5.0 links with "hasLayout" (triggered by any dimension, or float) do > not work over images. Maybe you could try this: In IE5.0 only, hide the IMGs and replace them with background images on the anchors...? Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ :

Re: [css-d] how I make divs not expand with the contents

2005-08-20 Thread Steve Clay
Saturday, August 20, 2005, 8:52:17 AM, ross wrote: > .firstname { > width: 100px; > } > long name is entered the div size expands with the text. In IE/win. You shouldn't see this problem in other browsers that correctly handle width. That said, there's no standard property to force a text wrap

Re: [css-d] CSS and Forms - again

2005-08-22 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, August 22, 2005, 4:09:27 PM, Rob Cochrane wrote: > IE accepts margin on legend and will move its placement but FF and opera > do not so that one is out. Opera8 /does/ position LEGEND based on side margins (LEGEND must be sort of inline-block in that browser), but neither IE6/win nor FF res

Re: [css-d] image swap on link

2005-08-24 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 8:31:00 AM, dimpie wrote: > I have a link which exists only of an image, no text involved. > If I hover over it I want to show a different image. Seems simple and > probably it is. CSS rollover for IMG links: http://wd.mrclay.org/tests/rollovers/ (Accessible when CSS a

Re: [css-d] strech outline to fit text?

2005-08-24 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, August 24, 2005, 9:08:43 PM, Mark wrote: > http://www.dev.qtags.com/new-site/overview.html > http://www.dev.qtags.com/new-site/inc/qtags.css > How can I make the outline stretch to encompass all of the text? In general, to stretch the height of a block, you just put content in it in no

Re[2]: [css-d] strange form layout in Opera

2005-08-25 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, August 25, 2005, 11:56:15 AM, Andrew Gregory wrote: > setting "display:inline" and "float:left/right" is pointless. All floats > are display:block. Harmless, but not pointless. display:inline fixes some IE/win float issues. http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html ht

Re: [css-d] A way to force overflow in one direction only

2005-08-26 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, August 25, 2005, 12:21:03 PM, ross wrote: > Is there a way to force scrolling in either vertical or horizontal > direction and not automatically in both? overflow-x and overflow-y (CSS3) http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-box/#the-overflow-x Supported already by IE/win, will be in FF1.5 Steve --

Re: [css-d] Image float

2005-08-28 Thread Steve Clay
Sunday, August 28, 2005, 12:36:38 AM, t94xr.net.nz wrote: > Whats an easy way to align an image in the centre of a 150px div? Horizontally? Give the DIV text-align:center; Vertically? As with all vertical centering, it's a bit more tricky: I use display:table-cell for CSS2 browsers and a font-s

Re[2]: [css-d] drop-down menu titles

2005-08-28 Thread Steve Clay
Sunday, August 28, 2005, 8:48:29 AM, Sarah wrote: > activated by a click or key press ... would I need to employ lots of > Javascript? Yes, some non-trivial (depending on who you ask) Javascript would be required. > would it then render the navigation less accessible? If done well, no, but that'

Re: [css-d] Controlling text around an image

2005-08-29 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, August 29, 2005, 11:46:32 AM, Jessica Mays wrote: > What I need to be able to do is control the placement of text > menu within this div container. I know how to so this when my page is > set to be aligned to the left on the browser using absolute placement, The key is moving your referenc

Re[2]: [css-d] simple problem - difficult solution

2005-08-30 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, August 30, 2005, 10:00:05 AM, andrew welch wrote: > Hmmm why does and need a height? That is surely a hack. Explanation: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/100percheight.html > The requirement is that the header div must not scroll off the page, > it should remain fixed at the top of t

Re: [css-d] Columns with more than one element

2005-09-01 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 1, 2005, 6:17:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It seems simple: to move an element to the right column - just change its > style to "float:right", and the same for left. > It works fine in IE6, as you can see here: > http://tora.us.fm/floattest.html IE breaks a rule of the flo

Re[2]: [css-d] 3 col fluid falling apart at 640x480

2005-09-01 Thread Steve Clay
wendy wrote: >> http://www.horseink.com/workroom/dgj/index_hmenu.html Ingo Chao wrote: > At ~640px, the columns start to drop in IE/Win I think that's what she's referring to. She gives #wrapper a min-width, but IE/win doesn't support it. A few options I see: 1) Emulation min-width in IE with

OT: Re[2]: [css-d] Now possible: CSS Constants

2005-09-01 Thread Steve Clay
>> Take any real big CSS file with the same five-six colors repeated tens >> of times for various elements and benefits will be obviuos. >> And thats very handy for color skining. Thursday, September 1, 2005, 1:23:09 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: > Still, having "Find And Replace" in my editor seems e

Re[2]: [css-d] Header Width

2005-09-01 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 1, 2005, 2:45:59 PM, Adam Kuehn wrote: > Thierry Koblentz wrote: >>I'm not sure if this is a "safe" solution; I wouldn't use float without an >>explicite width... > It is safe for all CSS 2 browsers with the sole exception of IE5/Mac. > That browser, and only that browser, req

Re: [css-d] content overflowing width problem

2005-09-01 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 1, 2005, 12:56:23 PM, Pringle, Ron wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/7nngl > My real question is, what can I realistically do about this content? One option would be to create a special template for certain pages that removes the right column. > Is there some css/style solution I'm

Re: [css-d] Opera absolute positioning bug

2005-09-02 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, September 2, 2005, 3:50:13 PM, Alex Robinson wrote: > http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/cssjunk/operatopbottom Looks like a bug. I just can't imagine how I've never run into it before. I wonder if applying some common rule to BODY (#wrapper's container) might fix it... Steve -- http://mrcla

Re[2]: [css-d] 3-col layout auto-expanding DIV?

2005-09-04 Thread Steve Clay
Sunday, September 4, 2005, 11:57:15 AM, Edward wrote: > It seems to me that this is a major failing of CSS positioning, that > a DIV can't recognise it's contents and expand accordingly. You desire a layout that can handle arbitrary contents, but if you put a 2000px wide table in a table layout, h

Re[2]: [css-d] Search box like in browsers toolbar

2005-09-06 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, September 6, 2005, 10:03:26 AM, Martin Petrov wrote: > I don't want to position the image but to indent the text. I tried with > padding, but it just widens the box. You might remove the border and apply a background image that fakes it and extends it to the left. This might be more reli

Re: [css-d] Browser don't catch named anchors if in fixed elements...

2005-09-06 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, September 6, 2005, 11:31:02 AM, Guillaume wrote: > Seems the browsers ( Op, Saf, Ff on Mac ) don't catch named anchors if > placed inside position:fixed containers... Also scrolling areas with overflow:auto/scroll should scroll to make targeted anchors visible. The specs just don't say w

Re: [css-d] Site Check Princeton University Library

2005-09-06 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, September 6, 2005, 1:37:18 PM, Antonio Barrera wrote: > Please take a moment to review our site: Anything in particular we're looking for? The more you give us to look for the more helpful we can be. > http://library2.princeton.edu Design is attractive. Most text is too small. I can't

Re[2]: [css-d] wrapping text around images

2005-09-07 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 10:21:12 PM, Ricky wrote: > To achieve this effect, I placed the image in a span floated to the left: Or just give the IMG float:left; margin-right:1em; Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ : http://frenchhorns.mrclay.org/ ___

Re: [css-d] Absolute positioned columns and scrolling

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 8, 2005, 9:02:19 AM, Damian Watson wrote: > I've got a layout that uses two absolute positioned column (left/right) > with a centre column that's relative to the page and left/right margins > to reflect the width of those columns. > My problem is that when the two outside colum

Re: [css-d] input type=text and css

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 8, 2005, 7:09:44 PM, Rutgers wrote: > I would like to set the table width to 100% (done) and each table cell to > specified percentage width that adds up to the 100%. No need to set the width of the cells since each will contain the same sized element. > I can't used % to set

Re: [css-d] New to CSS...Why isn't this horizontal?

2005-09-12 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, September 12, 2005, 12:58:29 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > I'm trying to line up two DIV boxes horizontally. Instead, Sounds like you basically want a 2-column layout, minus the header/footer. You don't say what content will go in these boxes, so I'm assuming they should expand as necessary

Re[2]: [css-d] New to CSS...Why isn't this horizontal?

2005-09-12 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, September 12, 2005, 2:17:47 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > I guess, by your comments, that DIV's need to have a "float" > characteristic to be expandable according to content? Float-based layouts are typically more flexible than absolute positioning at least. Floated elements remain in the "

Re[2]: [css-d] Compliant Browser displaying "upgrade browser message"

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 7:33:59 AM, Bob Easton wrote: > 1) the display:none technique is very poor form. It hides information > from exactly the audience who needs it, screen reader users. While I agree the upgrade notice days are happily over, why would you want screen reader users hearing

Re[3]: [css-d] Compliant Browser displaying "upgrade browser message"

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
> Thursday, September 15, 2005, 7:33:59 AM, Bob Easton wrote: >> 1) the display:none technique is very poor form. It hides information >> from exactly the audience who needs it, screen reader users. OK, I guess you were referring to general use of the technique. Agreed, sorry! Steve __

Re: [css-d] div horizontal centering in Moz

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 9:49:36 AM, shlomi asaf wrote: > why moz doesnt support text-align:center All major browsers support text-align [1]. The behavior you're expecting (that it affect block elements like DIV) was a bug in IE5.x (retained in IE6 Quirks mode). To center block elements, se

Re: [css-d] Need Help with problem using floats Easy Clearing method - Take 2

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 12:50:56 PM, JF Simard wrote: > It seems that Opera 8 does not clear the main floated content in certain I have Opera 8.02 (7680) on Win2k and the bottoms of these pages: > http://netdiver.net/toolbox/bookshelves/bk_05.php > http://netdiver.net/interviews/ look iden

Re[2]: [css-d] Need Help with problem using floats Easy Clearing method - Take 2

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 15, 2005, 3:49:31 PM, JF Simard wrote: > Mmmm...and what about this page? > http://netdiver.net/x_editorials/ You're right: float uncontained. Background ends after "/ Brain bytes". Sorry... Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ : http://frenchhorns.mrclay.org/ __

[css-d] true table (was: false table)

2005-09-16 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, September 16, 2005, 10:58:38 AM, chuck clark wrote: > SubTotal$ 10.00 Even less markup: SubTotal$ 10.00 Really, use a table... Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ : http://frenchhorns.mrclay.org/ __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [css-d] true table (was: false table)

2005-09-16 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, September 16, 2005, 11:25:21 AM, Steve Clay wrote: > Really, use a table... Chuck, back from lunch I realize I was a little rude in my reply. You should still use a table for your data, but if this were not data, here's a (not the only) basic way to style that markup. Spot is

Re: [css-d] At what point does it become more beneficial to use CSS?

2005-09-16 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, September 16, 2005, 12:27:31 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > at what point does it become more desirable to use CSS Good question. I say as use what you're comfortable with. If you don't understand it, or don't think you could fix it, maybe shouldn't use it on sites you build for others. Bu

Re[2]: [css-d] variable width left column, left+right column tops line up

2005-09-18 Thread Steve Clay
> CJ Larson wrote: >> The bullet lists line up with each image, so they also need to line *up* >> with the images. >> +-+ >> |=== : - bullet | >> |Graphic : - bullet | >> |=== : - l

Re: [css-d] Type Tester Tool for CSS

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, September 19, 2005, 8:58:55 AM, Jim Davis wrote: > http://typetester.maratz.com/ > You can set virtually every CSS variable having to do with type Useful only if you specify px sizes. Here's a message I sent to the creator: - Just a few ideas that would please those of us

Re: [css-d] min-height issues: please help!\

2005-09-20 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, September 20, 2005, 1:22:47 AM, John wrote: > Home Page: http://www.bol.ucla.edu/ > Right panel looks fine in Firefox. Not so in IE. It's fine, you just need it to /look/ like the right panel extends to the bottom. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/ will fix you up. Steve -

Re: [css-d] submitting forms via Enter

2005-09-21 Thread Steve Clay
> their background images) and am using tags instead, styled with > CSS and with href="javascript:..." attributes. > The problem is getting the Enter key to submit the form when the > cursor is in one of its fields. In Firefox it's easy: I just add a ... This a bit off-topic from practical CSS

Re: [css-d] CSS / Javascript Hierarchy

2005-09-21 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 1:47:37 PM, jleonard wrote: > "onClick" and "onMouseOver" in the div that creates it. Within that box, How will keyboard users/search engines/users without JS use this? > What (we thought) should happen is that clicking anywhere in the box > send the user to destina

Re: [css-d] How to get a good monospaced font for IE6

2005-09-21 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 2:16:47 PM, Rick F. wrote: > all of my tabular data ...should be in a table element. The font isn't the problem, it's the markup. > is all over the place horizontally speaking. Right, without the right element, your data is nothing but a blob of text that a few lu

Re: [css-d] and background image without border in IE

2005-09-22 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 22, 2005, 3:32:28 AM, Martin Petrov wrote: > knows how to remove the border that Internet Explorer shows when > using a background image with the hr element. Styling HR is pretty much hopeless cross-browser. Put a DIV around it, position the HR offscreen (it may have use to s

Re: [css-d] textarea and printing

2005-09-23 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, September 23, 2005, 10:13:44 AM, Brian wrote: > the textarea can hold in physical shape/size, it obviously clips the > text and is not printed. Whatever is in the scrolling part of the box This may fail miserably, but in your print CSS you might try: textarea {height:auto; overflow:visi

Re: [css-d] Need help on css positioning

2005-09-24 Thread Steve Clay
Saturday, September 24, 2005, 12:28:32 PM, Dinh wrote: > http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=layoutsidebarallheight1wx.png > http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1461/4div0gd.png You need to make #banner the first element nested inside of #container. Then you can remove #banner's width and floa

Re: [css-d] Four Column Layout

2005-09-24 Thread Steve Clay
Saturday, September 24, 2005, 3:46:35 PM, Richard wrote: > divs within this, one floating left and the other floating right. And > then two divs within these divs again floating left or right. Or do I > just have four divs, three floating left and one floating right. Depends on what order you wan

Re: [css-d] 100% height?

2005-09-26 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, September 26, 2005, 12:18:28 AM, Anastasios Angelidis wrote: > Hi I mamanged to get 100% working in explorer but not in Mozilla. Is Google "100% height", 1st result will answer your question: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/100percheight.html The key in Standards mode: html, body, div#onl

Re[2]: [css-d] Table Styling

2005-09-26 Thread Steve Clay
Sunday, September 25, 2005, 10:16:28 PM, Jeff Chastain wrote: > So, only using CSS, is there a possible cross-browser solution to style the > first table cell differently from the others without have a unique ID or > class on it? CSS2, yes. IE, no. td {/* first col style */} td + td {/* fol

Re[2]: [css-d] Re: Dropdowns in inline elements, and CSS validator problems

2005-09-26 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, September 26, 2005, 10:14:31 AM, Sam Partington wrote: > http://www.luusac.org.uk/styles/base.css It can validate the URL directly, but I suspect the validator has a bug in its markup parser and is

[css-d] Re: overflow:auto/scroll

2005-09-27 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, September 27, 2005, 2:44:58 PM, jleonard wrote: > Which is better for wide spread use; a frameset with a scrollbar or the > CSS overflow: scroll? CSS overflow can give you the look of a frameset, but not the behavior; when the user hits the next page, all the CSS scrolling sections will j

[css-d] specs @ your fingertips (was: help with disappearing borders)

2005-09-28 Thread Steve Clay
> I've never even heard of text-indent before. I find these specs panels essential: http://people.opera.com/rijk/panels/panelizer.html CSS 2.1 Quick Reference HTML 4.01 Quick Reference Core JavaScript 1.5 Guide ...and many more! Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ : http://thefrenchhorns.com/ _

Re: [css-d] XHTML Design for CSS -- How To?

2005-09-28 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, September 28, 2005, 3:55:14 PM, Peter Beckman wrote: > the idea behind grouping like-content together, but I don't understand when > it is good to have an "extra" container (div) here and there. ZG was designed with restyle-ability as the #1 goal and has plenty of superfluous markup. F

Re: [css-d] Image based nav that meets AAA standards?

2005-09-29 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 29, 2005, 10:13:32 AM, Dan_MailLists wrote: > I did have a go at replacing the spacer gifs with real menu gifs - and > making them invisible in the CSS to allow me to do the rollover via CSS - > but that causes problems in Firefox. > http://www.danwasthere.com/test_area/bfz/grap

Re: [css-d] Centering Floated Images

2005-09-29 Thread Steve Clay
Thursday, September 29, 2005, 11:26:27 AM, Matt Harris wrote: > I have a group of floated images which wrap to the next line as the page > width changes. Inevitably, a few stranglers will be on the bottom row, and > of course, they will be floated left. Is there a way to center these images > and a

Re: [css-d] inline elements, border-bottom and IE 6

2005-09-30 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, September 30, 2005, 4:26:56 AM, victor NOAGBODJI wrote: > Souldn't border-bottom be applied to inline element since IE 5??=20 > It doesn't seem to work with IE 6.0 there Missing border problems in IE => try triggering hasLayout. On inline elements, try display:inline-block (serve just to I

Re: [css-d] columns of lists

2005-09-30 Thread Steve Clay
Friday, September 30, 2005, 9:59:50 AM, Kristina Floyd wrote: > the column headings need to be level with each other. > > I can not touch the markup. You'll need to add classes to the 4 top level LIs via Javascript, then something like: .li1, .li2, .li3, .

Re: [css-d] Disappearing Text in PCIEv6?

2005-10-03 Thread Steve Clay
Monday, October 3, 2005, 12:11:41 PM, Mark D Hiatt wrote: > Can someone please tell me why my text goes away in this page, in PC > Internet Explorer 6 in the two smaller sizes? > http://www.unl.edu/webtraining/DW01/dw09.shtml Best guess is that, at the larger sizes, your text pushes your footer (p

Re: [css-d] strong!

2005-10-05 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 12:18:04 PM, jeremy wrote: > in IE, things that I specify as being or > font-weight:bold; dont really show up. "Don't show up" as in invisible, not displayed, or just normal weight? 1) validate your markup 2) look for rules affecting strong in your CSS 3) make sure th

Re: [css-d] @import

2005-10-05 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, October 5, 2005, 3:44:54 PM, Zach Inglis wrote: > @import 'second.css"; > @import url("second.css"); > nor hard coded url works Do your @import rules come before any other rules in the CSS, because they must per the specs. Also, simplest syntax is just @import "my.css"; This has th

Re: [css-d] Css rows and columns

2005-10-13 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 6:16:09 PM, Scott Haneda wrote: > I really don't want to jam this one in a table, but I need 5 divs across, > butted right up against each other, after the 5th one, I need a new row. > The width of each of the 5 items is fixed, the height is not. There's a relatively s

Re[2]: [css-d] IE6 and hover - csshover.htc problems

2005-10-13 Thread Steve Clay
Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 10:06:21 PM, Diane Tomlins wrote: > The test page is here: http://home.comcast.net/~drt603/dallas/index4.htm I haven't looked into your CSS, but have you tried the CSS popup IE fix? http://www.quirksmode.org/css/ie6_purecsspopups.html Steve -- http://mrclay.org/ : ht

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