[lace] antique pricking

2004-11-18 Thread Rick & Sharon Whiteley
Well, what a fun day :) Bev and I have been swapping scans of my old pricking and puzzling over the results all day:) The pricking was so fine that the holes just made it look fur. First off I had to steam the parchment (BTW it is parchment, not velum) to straighten it out. I then painstakingly

[lace] Cattern Cookies

2004-11-18 Thread Pene Piip
As Helen Bell has already mentioned, there is the recipe in the Jones & Deer book which I prefer to use. Last year I made cookies instead of cakes. So I'll post my cookie recipe as a variant to their recipe. CATTERN COOKIES Combine in a large bowl 1.25 cups of plain flour with 1/4 teaspoon of cinna

[lace] cattern cakes and raising

2004-11-18 Thread Paul and Dona
Rosemary in Sussex wrote: How can your cakes rise in the tin without any raising agent? Should there be yeast in the recipe? I'd like to try this recipe for my lace classes next week! Rosemary, I also read the recipe and had the same thought. Then I re-read it. I believe that the recipe is calli

[lace] Re: Shipping of Lace supplies

2004-11-18 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Nov 18, 2004, at 23:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ordered a batch on Sunday/Monday and was told that the delivery date *within UK* is 21 days; God and our president only know when it'll arrive in US... I would like to comment on this rather negative remark that was in response to a letter t

Re: [lace] Shipping of Lace supplies

2004-11-18 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 11/18/04 7:40:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Threads from Pipers can be ordered direct from the website or from a > > particular dealer in Geelong. They only take about 5 days from the UK > > though. > > When was the last time you'd ordered? I o

re:[lace]cattern cakes recipe (fwd)

2004-11-18 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone I wrote: >This is based on the recipe from Cattern Cakes and Lace - no leavening is >given. To clarify - the recipe from CC and L specifies self-raising flour. Bev's recipe does not ;) -- bye for now Bev in Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.

[lace] Re: reticent list members (Pipers silk)

2004-11-18 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Nov 18, 2004, at 5:09, David Collyer wrote: The threads certainly are available today. Silk and cotton are, but not linen, which is the most superiour thread for lacemaking, when looked at from many angles. It's almost as strong as silk (micron for micron), but not as slippery (ie easier to fi

[lace] cattern cakes recipe

2004-11-18 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone, For those who want a recipe with NA measurements, here is what I use 1 1/2 c. flour a pinch of cinnamon 1/4 c. currants (more or less) 2 tsp. caraway seeds 3/4 c. white sugar 1/2 square melted marg. 1 egg Mix in order given, add more flour if it looks too floppy, roll out dough into a

[lace] Re: fine linen thread -- history

2004-11-18 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Nov 18, 2004, at 4:58, Jean Barrett wrote: While the development of the cotton gin undoubtabley enabled fine cottons to be spun it didn't kill out fine linens quite as immediately as you say. I bought Fine linen DMC threads (150, 200, 300) in the 1960's. Likewise I have fine linen hanks from

re:[lace] Re: fine linen thread -- history

2004-11-18 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone, and thank you to Jen who first asked about what happened to fine threads, it is an interesting 'thread'... I should admit that I immediately assumed the reference was to linen threads - which I know aren't made any more 'like they used to' - cotton and silk is available in v. fine gri

[lace] interlibrary loans

2004-11-18 Thread Jennifer Audsley
Hi Spiders, Melbourne lacemakers may be interested to know that RMIT Uni has a number of lace, textile etc books in their library. Jeri's suggestion sent me to RMIT library catalogue, and as there is a School of Fashion and Textiles there are many books which may be of interest to some. I don't

[lace] RE: antique pricking

2004-11-18 Thread purple lacer
Hi Sharon, Lucky you is right! I agree with Beth that you probably shouldn't try repricking the holes. But I'll disagree with using a crayon to make a rubbing. I think you would have to press too hard to get a rubbing. Chalk maybe. If it were me, I'd be sticking it in my scanner and trying to s

[lace] Cattern Cakes and Thanksgiving!!

2004-11-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
Isn't it delightful that in the US this year we will celebrate Thanksgiving on the same day that we observe St Catherine's Day! This year, my children are hither and yon, and DH and I have decided to spend our precious time at home indulgently! We've planned a gourmet meal which does not include a

[lace] Age of Wonders-Tess and Prof site

2004-11-18 Thread Dmt11home
I have decided to read Santina Levey again, including the notes. I have to tell you that reading Santina Levey now that so many of the articles that she cites are available on Tess and the Professor's site is an entirely different experience. I refer to the note, read it, then go to the comp

[lace] Cattern Cakes recipe

2004-11-18 Thread Rosemary Brown
Dear Maureen How can your cakes rise in the tin without any raising agent? Should there be yeast in the recipe? I'd like to try this recipe for my lace classes next week! Rosemary in Sussex - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lace] Nottingham lace thread

2004-11-18 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 11/18/04 4:46:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The history of linen thread was fascinating. > > Another fact I found out when researching family history, was that > Nottingham lace was bleached after it was made. Presumably if the thread > was bleache

[lace] Re: lBusy Lists

2004-11-18 Thread Annette Gill
< Devon>> How enterprising to celebrate Saturnalia! Did you also include the drunkenness that seems to have been part of Saturnalia? I'm always amazed when I read about the customs of Christmas as to how many of them pre-date Christmas. Yule logs, evergreen decorations, gift-giving, holly, m

Re: [lace] wire for needlelace

2004-11-18 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 11/17/04 6:41:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What I am really asking in a round about way is "can you make wire > needlelace". I had a quick try with the copper wire > that dh had lying around, but the wire kept snapping when I tried to pull > the

[lace] Re Busy lists

2004-11-18 Thread Annette Gill
Claire Allen wrote: I'm not quite sure how Father Christmas can offend people from other faiths when he is not exactly a religious symbol himself. I too am an Atheist and I celebrate Christmas as the winter solstice festival that was hijacked when Christianity came to this country. And if peopl

Re: [lace] Wire for lace

2004-11-18 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone - wire is being used a lot in basketry now - perhaps checking out some of their sites would give other wire sources? (or confirm those already mentioned). Just a thought. -- bye for now Bev in blustery 'fresh' Sooke, BC (west coast of Canada) Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.c

[lace] re: fine linen thread -- history

2004-11-18 Thread Sally Schoenberg
I don't know about Nottingham lace, but weaving with unbleached thread and bleaching after weaving is commonly done by handweavers to minimize broken warp threads. I like to weave with linen thread, and that's what I do. I never have broken linen warp threads (knock on wood!). The teacher of

[lace] RE: Catterns cakes

2004-11-18 Thread Helen Bell
Sue, Below is an extract from the RMLG e-Newsletter I sent out at the beginning of the month, with some St Catherine's day information and recipes. Hope they help (or work). The book by Jones and Deer is wonderful, and has a nice recipe - but not for those who are allergic to tree nuts or specif

[lace] RE:antique prickings

2004-11-18 Thread Helen Bell
I was going to suggest a rubbing too. Maybe using some parchment paper (like you getting in cooking stores) or greaseproof paper if that's what you call it (going for the Aussie/US lingo here). Then either transferring the rubbing to cardstock or if it's on parchment, you could almost use as is

[lace] Re: Help for Jacqui

2004-11-18 Thread Janis Savage
Jacqui wrote on 16/11 I have a favour to ask. I took up bobbin lace making in May this year and > am now trying to teach some friends this art. I am looking for simple > instructions, and prickings that do not carry a copyright (I will still > reference the source material) as I am trying to get

re: [lace] antique prickings

2004-11-18 Thread Bev Walker
Hi Sharon and everyone Take a colour photocopy of each pricking, unless they are really roll-y and fragile, in which case I'd say prick through just one repeat of each. But if they can be flattened without damage, a colour photocopy gives you the clarity of the original. You can work the lace right

[lace] Southern Counties Lacemakers' Fair - Havant

2004-11-18 Thread Jean Nathan
I've had a few replies from people attending Havant on Saturday. Seems that 11.45 - noon at Roseground Supplies stall is the most suitable time and place - Pat Hallam and Pam Sharples can't really leave their stall. Liz and I both haved spider brooches for recognition. Jean in Poole - To unsubscr

Re: [lace] First Snowfall

2004-11-18 Thread Maureen Harvey
Hi Sue and fellow spiders, Cattern Cakes ( as we call them in Norfolk UK) are named after Catherine of Aragon who once lived at Amphill Castle. They are specially prepared for St Catherine's Day -the patroness of spinners, lace makers, rope makers and spinsters on 25th November, they are tradional

[lace] Fantasy Flowers

2004-11-18 Thread Nicole Gauthier
Le 04-11-17, à 01:43, Helene Gannac a écrit : Yours, busy as well, but stopping work next week to do a 3 day workshop with Rosemary Shepherd on Fantasy flowers. Oh! joy!! Yes, certainly a joy to take that workshop. I bought the book in Prague and I am now working at the flowers. The two first ones

Re: [lace] Wire for lace

2004-11-18 Thread Lorri Ferguson
Yes, Jean, we have the 26 & 28 gauge in our hobby shops too. But it is too heavy for wire lace. Great for other things however. Lorri - Original Message - From: Jean Nathan To: Lace Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:49 AM Su

Re: [lace] First Snowfall

2004-11-18 Thread Sue Clemenger
Hello, Pene, from a spider very far away from Estonia! ;o) We have not yet got our first real snowfall here, although there were a few flurries on Halloween. Everything's at that bare and grey stage. I am not doing much lacing right now, except for a couple of knitted lace things (2 scarves for

Re: [lace] Re: reticent list members

2004-11-18 Thread David Collyer
Dear Jen, Here goes. Why isn't thread manufactured today that is as fine as those available in the early lace-making days. I'd have thought that with the technology available these days (fibre optics, micro and nanotechnology etc etc) that small wouldn't be a problem. If they could do it in the 1

RE: [lace] 13th cent needlelace from China?

2004-11-18 Thread David Collyer
Dear Friends, My first thought was "When did Marco Polo go to China?" Sure enough, his dates are 1254-1324. Trade is always a two way street. While I don't necessarily think that it was Marco Polo or his father or their expedition that was the most likely contact point, I do think that trader

[lace] Re: Stumpwork beetle book again

2004-11-18 Thread Lynn Carpenter
After much searching, I finally found the listing for this book. If you have Edward R. Hamilton's November 12, 2004 catalog, the book is on page 66, and the item number is 3304914, priced at $19.95 (USD), plus $3.50 shipping/handling per order. Unfortunately they only ship to US zip codes. Hamil

Re: [lace] fine linen thread -- history

2004-11-18 Thread Jean Barrett
On 17 Nov 2004, at 19:47, Alice Howell wrote: In my reading and study of lace history, the commercial viability of very fine linen thread was lost in 1790 when the cotton gin was developed, making cotton thread commercially viable and much cheaper to produce than the linen. The linen supplies t

[lace] Re: fine linen thread -- history

2004-11-18 Thread Karen
The history of linen thread was fascinating. Another fact I found out when researching family history, was that Nottingham lace was bleached after it was made. Presumably if the thread was bleached, it would be more likely to break on the lacemaking machines. If anyone can confirm this I would ap

Re: [lace] antique prickings

2004-11-18 Thread beth
Hi, Sharon Lucky you! I'm sure there will be others who know more about looking after and using fragile antique prickings, but I imagine pricking through a very fragile old card pricking would risk damaging it even more, I reckon it would be safer to use the old (pre-photocopier) method and take

RE: [lace] An Australian Bobbin excavated

2004-11-18 Thread ameldrum
Brian, I am a member of the Needlework Tool Collectors Society (NTCS) in Australia and some time back at one of the Sydney meetings, a member gave a talk on that dig and showed some of the thimbles which were found. She arranged to borrow the specimen thimbles from the dig for the occasion. I can't