[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-19 Thread jean-michel Catherinot
an A : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoye le : Mer 17 novembre 2010, 10h 00min 08s Objet : [LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc.. After the Modern Jazz Quartet retired, Milt Jackson was interviewed. During the interview he complained that "some kid who only know

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-17 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hear hear! Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von G. Crona Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. November 2010 14:25 An: lutelist Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc.. Vanitas vanitatum omnia

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-17 Thread G. Crona
Vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas :) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-17 Thread Ariel Abramovich
light years ahead of Benise. >>> >>> Eugene >>> >>> >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On >>>> Behalf Of David Tayler >>>>

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-17 Thread Orphenica
ber 14, 2010 6:52 PM To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc.. I think they should have a museum where all the paintings have been digitized and had the colors turned all the way up, ppl would love it. dt At 12:16 PM 11/12/2010, you wrote: On 12

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-17 Thread Gary Digman
edu'" Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc.. It's even worse than you've all imagined. This guy is popular! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCage-_yz7A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCCE-oTwRfY Frankly, I actuall

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Benise. Eugene > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of David Tayler > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:52 PM > To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc.. >

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-14 Thread David Tayler
I think they should have a museum where all the paintings have been digitized and had the colors turned all the way up, ppl would love it. dt At 12:16 PM 11/12/2010, you wrote: On 12 November 2010 20:29, Bruno Fournier wrote: > I personnally am getting tired of all this theatrical way of do

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-14 Thread Orphenica
I agree with Wikla, long live variety and strumming. I was at the Kozena concert in Hamburg, and it was a great experience. What I liked was, that the instrumentalists had their own pieces and were not hired mercenaries. And hey, whenever did people outside our esoteric circle got to hear a co

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-13 Thread Ron Andrico
..@gmail.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: nedma...@aol.com > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc.. > > And she does a fine job singing three Handel Italian Cantatas - with Les Musiciens du Louvre - on an Archiv recording. > On Nov 13,

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-13 Thread Edward Mast
And she does a fine job singing three Handel Italian Cantatas - with Les Musiciens du Louvre - on an Archiv recording. On Nov 13, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Daniel Shoskes wrote: > And I heard the same singer perform Mahler live last year with the > Cleveland Orchestra. Quite versatile. > > On Fri,

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-13 Thread Daniel Shoskes
And I heard the same singer perform Mahler live last year with the Cleveland Orchestra. Quite versatile. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:16 PM, David van Ooijen <[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: On 12 November 2010 20:29, Bruno Fournier <[2]br...@estavel.org> wrote: > I personnal

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-12 Thread Stuart Walsh
On 12/11/2010 20:55, wikla wrote: I personally would allow all the flowers blossom. Variety is the strength of our music. And so it used to be. Well.. maybe. Might those instruments have been used together for that music at that time? If not, and if the musicians want to perform the music in

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-12 Thread wikla
I personally would allow all the flowers blossom. Variety is the strength of our music. And so it used to be. And so it is also in the music we hear every day! I wouldn't like - perhaps even wouldn't tolerate - any "besserwisser" to tell us the _one and only_ "right" way of doing anything . (Btw:

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-12 Thread Bruno Fournier
r in public like that. Monica - Original Message - From: "Bernd Haegemann" <[2...@symbol4.de> To: <[3]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: [LUTE] Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc.. Yesterday we watched a very nice

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-12 Thread Monica Hall
. Monica - Original Message - From: "Bernd Haegemann" To: Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 7:00 PM Subject: [LUTE] Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc.. Yesterday we watched a very nice concert. As it seems it also on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-12 Thread David van Ooijen
On 12 November 2010 20:29, Bruno Fournier wrote: >   I personnally am getting tired of all this theatrical way of doing >   baroque music, and the Latin american style of strumming used.A Don't It's fashion, it'll pass. In the mean time we can enjoy it (and get paid for doing it ... :-) >     th

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-12 Thread Bruno Fournier
I personnally am getting tired of all this theatrical way of doing baroque music, and the Latin american style of strumming used.A Don't get me wrong, I love strumming, but I prefer to hear it in Latin american music. A Bruno Cognyl-Fournier A On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at

[LUTE] Re: Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-12 Thread Bernd Haegemann
ok, in our concert there was a theorbo, played by Senor Baena. On the video is a wooden box instead , for sure one of the devices with which the CIA influence the weather. B - Original Message - From: "Bernd Haegemann" To: Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:00 PM Subj

[LUTE] Kozena and guitars, theorbo, colascione etc..

2010-11-12 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Yesterday we watched a very nice concert. As it seems it also on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk4j_WRqd68&feature=related then you can continue with the vids on the righ side of the page. best wishes Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmo

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo treatises

2010-11-02 Thread Taco Walstra
On 11/01/2010 04:44 PM, Sam Chapman wrote: Hi, perhaps a more interesting book is delair's treatise of 1690: accompaniment on theorbo and harpsichord. I have a pdf of the english version which is not longer available. Grenerin and fleury contain several mistakes. Taco Dear

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo treatises

2010-11-01 Thread Sam Chapman
1716 treatise (in which he talks about harmony and accompaniment in general) or the "Addition au traite d'accompaniment" from 1730 (which is much larger, and contains more specific info about theorbo, lute and guitar)? If the latter, there is an article by Kevin Mason

[LUTE] Theorbo treatises

2010-10-30 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear All, Does anyone happen to know if there are English translations of the following treatises and if they are available (either original or translation) online? Angelo Michele Bartolotti: Table pour apprendre facilement `a toucher le theorbe sur la basse-continue (Paris, 1669)

[LUTE] Theorbo for sale

2010-10-17 Thread Stefan Olof Lundgren
Dear Luteplayers! Are You looking for something special? For some years I've played a 14-course Theorbo. Several photos here: http://www.luteonline.se/theorbo_for_sale_2010.htm It has the body of the instrument in the Germanisches Museum in Nürnberg (MIR 903) by Lepold Widhalm in 1755 an

[LUTE] Re: wanted: French Prelude in e-minor for theorbo

2010-08-03 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:08 PM, "Mathias Rösel" wrote: > There is another, anonymous, on p. 308. Furthermore, there are two by de > Visee in Paris, Bibiliotheque National, R 1575, p. 93v and 94. Danke! David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.david

[LUTE] Re: wanted: French Prelude in e-minor for theorbo

2010-08-03 Thread Mathias Rösel
There is another, anonymous, on p. 308. Furthermore, there are two by de Visee in Paris, Bibiliotheque National, R 1575, p. 93v and 94. Mathias "David van Ooijen" schrieb: > Suggestions, anyone? Saizenay p. 306 is all I can come up with. > > David > > -- > *** > Da

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: d-minor theorbo specs

2010-07-06 Thread David van Ooijen
Thanks to all for sharing your thoughts and experiences, on- and off-list. There's even a d-minor theorbo living just across the road, it turned out! Interesting. I have a follow-up question for continuo players. How easy is it to play compound, complicated figures on a d-minor theorbo? Or

[LUTE] Re: Bach on Theorbo

2010-03-21 Thread Robert Compton
These transcriptions are not for theorbo per se, but should be of use. http://www.clivetitmuss.com/lutebooks.asp Robert. On Mar 18, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Graham Freeman wrote: Wise Luters, Does anyone know of a good edition of the Bach Cello Suites for theorbo? They've been recor

[LUTE] Re: Bach on Theorbo

2010-03-21 Thread David van Ooijen
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Miles Dempster wrote: >     Does anyone know of a good edition of the Bach Cello Suites for >     theorbo? They've been recorded a number of times. Ideally, I'd make BWV 1007, 1008 and 1009 transcribed by Juan Carlos Rivera (also on CD by h

[LUTE] Re: Bach on Theorbo

2010-03-18 Thread Miles Dempster
of the Bach Cello Suites for theorbo? They've been recorded a number of times. Ideally, I'd make my own, but I'd like to see a good transcription of them first. With thanks, Graham Freeman -- Dr. Graham Freeman Ph. D Musicology University of

[LUTE] Re: Bach on Theorbo

2010-03-18 Thread Mathias Rösel
n/bach_cello.htm > > Val. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Graham Freeman" > To: "Lutelist" > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:59 PM > Subject: [LUTE] Bach on Theorbo > > > > > > Wise Luters, > > Does anyone k

[LUTE] Re: Bach on Theorbo

2010-03-18 Thread Sauvage Valéry
There is the edition by Stefan Lundgren (you can order on his website) http://www.luteonline.se/lundgren-edition/bach_cello.htm Val. - Original Message - From: "Graham Freeman" To: "Lutelist" Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: [LUTE] Bach on Theor

[LUTE] Bach on Theorbo

2010-03-18 Thread Graham Freeman
Wise Luters, Does anyone know of a good edition of the Bach Cello Suites for theorbo? They've been recorded a number of times. Ideally, I'd make my own, but I'd like to see a good transcription of them first. With thanks, Graham Freeman -- Dr. Graham F

[LUTE] Re: Heavy Theorbo

2010-03-11 Thread Graham Freeman
All, Thank you very much for all of your assistance. I'm glad to hear that I'm not alone with my hefty instrument. As always, I'm grateful for the assistance of the community. Best, Graham Freeman On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Peter Martin <[1]peter.l...@gmail.com> wrote

[LUTE] Re: Heavy Theorbo

2010-03-11 Thread Peter Martin
I do that too, using a short strap connected to the button on the body by the bridge. And a footstool. It's an absolute liberation: no more weight on the shoulders. P On 11 March 2010 08:49, David van Ooijen <[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:43

[LUTE] Re: Heavy Theorbo

2010-03-10 Thread David van Ooijen
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Graham Freeman wrote: >   All, >   I wonder if anyone can offer some helpful suggestions. I have a very Drastic solution a friend of mine opted for: 1. remove the veneer/top layer/panles on back and/or front of the extension 2. drill holes 3. put panels back But

[LUTE] Re: Heavy Theorbo

2010-03-10 Thread David Tayler
u are ever in California I hope you will feel free to drop by and try out instruments here. Best of luck, dt At 04:43 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote: >All, >I wonder if anyone can offer some helpful suggestions. I have a very > nice theorbo of medium size with which I'm very happ

[LUTE] Re: Heavy Theorbo

2010-03-10 Thread howard posner
On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Graham Freeman wrote: > I wonder if anyone can offer some helpful suggestions. I have a very > nice theorbo of medium size with which I'm very happy. The only problem > is that the neck extension is quite heavy, so much so that it > interferes

[LUTE] Heavy Theorbo

2010-03-10 Thread Graham Freeman
All, I wonder if anyone can offer some helpful suggestions. I have a very nice theorbo of medium size with which I'm very happy. The only problem is that the neck extension is quite heavy, so much so that it interferes with the balance of the instrument. This isn't a b

[LUTE] "S" & the theorbo

2010-03-07 Thread Roman Turovsky
For your perusal and delectation: a Passacaglia in e-minor for theorbo - http://torban.org/swv/passau992tiorba.pdf Enjoy, RT http://www.polyhymnion.org/swv/ostinato/992/pass992sau.mp3 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-07 Thread Peter Martin
; <[2]vidan...@sbcglobal.net> To: "[3]lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" <[4]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:03 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo I think the original article by Harwood, et al., is a pretty thorough stu

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-06 Thread Roman Turovsky
Thankfully we have Renato Meucci to have sorted out the HArwood mess. RT - Original Message - From: "David Tayler" To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:03 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo I think the original article by Har

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-06 Thread David Tayler
I think the original article by Harwood, et al., is a pretty thorough study, it just draws the wrong conclusion from its own research by conflating theorbo and chitarrone. Conflating the terms is understandable, because many of the terms were used interchangeably. The big mistake they made was

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-06 Thread David van Ooijen
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:59 PM, David Tayler wrote: > I have a Caccini instrument which was made for me made for me which > is exactly as Chris describes, a large bodied bass lute. I opted for > seven courses, although eight or nine seemed like a good idea. Same story here. I have a 78cm 10-cours

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-06 Thread David Tayler
Also, for those who wish to use a theorbo or archlute, when you have your instrument made, always ask the maker to build it so that it can be 6+8, 7+7 or 8+6. This is very easy to do, and allows you to fret the F sharp in any number of ways. I have the archlute in that configuration, and the

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-06 Thread David Tayler
, but whether one uses ths term or not it seems like a basic, practical solution. The instrument is definetely louder than a theorbo, for reasons that are somewhat puzzling, but loud it is. I expected to corner the early 17th century market, but of course 99 percent of the clients have no idea

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-05 Thread Roland Hayes
lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of John Lenti Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:26 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo Whenever I decide to play Caccini on 7-course lute or on my (essentially French kind-of) theorbo

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-05 Thread John Lenti
Whenever I decide to play Caccini on 7-course lute or on my (essentially French kind-of) theorbo, I ponder the matter of Caccini's theorbo and things like the fingered g#. First, I really wish I could justify the expense of a bass lute with theorbo tuning. It would make me whol

[LUTE] Re: Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-05 Thread chriswilke
David, My guess is that is not what we would call a theorbo at all, but rather a bass lute probably tuned theorbo-like. All the strings would therefore be on one neck and those chromatic basses could be fingered. Whether the tuning was in A, G or something else and whether one or both of

[LUTE] Caccini's theorbo

2010-03-05 Thread David van Ooijen
Do we know anything about the instrument(s) Caccini played? His bass lines sometimes need G as well as G#, (and I believe F as well as F#) in one piece, which is impossible on a 'standard' (...) theorbo in a with 6 strings/courses on the fingerboard. If Caccini were just another compose

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo arpeggiation

2010-03-01 Thread Martyn Hodgson
ly little used even on the lute these days (despite being well documented in early sources)... Does she mention this technique? rgds Martyn --- On Sun, 28/2/10, Martin Eastwell wrote: From: Martin Eastwell Subject: [LUTE] Theorbo arpeggiation To: "Lu

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo arpeggiation

2010-02-28 Thread chriswilke
hese types of chords "in one stroke, as on the lute," but HK allows for no shortcuts.) Chris --- On Sun, 2/28/10, Martin Eastwell wrote: > From: Martin Eastwell > Subject: [LUTE] Theorbo arpeggiation > To: "Lute Net" > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 4:

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo arpeggiation

2010-02-28 Thread Daniel Winheld
as already commonplace in 17th century French lute playing; specialists can confirm or correct me on this one. Perhaps getting a little OT from your specific theorbo concerns, I think many of us who came to lutes in general from modern guitar have a tendency to overuse the a finger, often to the de

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo arpeggiation

2010-02-28 Thread Martin Eastwell
Sorry-just noticed an error in my post (near the end)! "The result is that the melodic move Bb-A is reversed." For "Bb-A", please read "C-B"! Unless, of course, you play a theorbo in G! Martin On 28/2/10 21:38, "Martin Eastwell" wrote: > H

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo arpeggiation

2010-02-28 Thread Peter Martin
artin Eastwell <[1]eastwe...@mac.com> wrote: Hi! Looking through Francesca Torelli's excellent theorbo tutor (published by Ut Orpheus Edizioni), I was a little surprised by two of her recommendations for right hand arpeggiation. She explains (p 23)the

[LUTE] Theorbo arpeggiation

2010-02-28 Thread Martin Eastwell
Hi! Looking through Francesca Torelli's excellent theorbo tutor (published by Ut Orpheus Edizioni), I was a little surprised by two of her recommendations for right hand arpeggiation. She explains (p 23)the technique in which 4 note arpeggios, for example, are played p i m i, with the

[LUTE] Re: My new theorbo

2010-01-14 Thread wikla
Nice instrument! And unbelievable that you can manage with it only in a couple of days! Arto On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:14:36 +0100, "Sauvage Valéry" wrote: > Let me introduce my new theorbo made by Didier Jarny. > I got it on last sunday, and I'm really happy with it ;-) >

[LUTE] Re: My new theorbo

2010-01-14 Thread nedmast2
Thanks for the introduction - have you named him/her? A lovely sounding instrument, but as Heifetz said to a listener who complimented him on the sound of his instrument; (holding it to his ear) "I don't hear anything". Ned -- To get on or off this list see list informatio

[LUTE] Re: My new theorbo

2010-01-14 Thread David van Ooijen
2010/1/14 Sauvage Valéry : > Let me introduce my new theorbo made by Didier Jarny. > I got it on last sunday, and I'm really happy with it ;-) Congratulations with your new instrument! And so brave to bring it to YouTube immediately ... David -- **

[LUTE] My new theorbo

2010-01-14 Thread Sauvage Valéry
Let me introduce my new theorbo made by Didier Jarny. I got it on last sunday, and I'm really happy with it ;-) Here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-X_chDkDos Val To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Holiday Theorbo Time!

2009-12-24 Thread nedmast2
Thanks and most impressive, Chris. While my ear has yet to be seduced by the sound of the theorbo as it has been by the lute, your arrangements and playing are wonderful. May all your strings resonant with wonderful harmonies in the new year. Ned -- To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Holiday Theorbo Time!

2009-12-24 Thread Sean Smith
, theorbo music! Here are two clips of (just in time) seasonal theorbo offerings: My arrangement of "It Came Upon a Midnight Clear" con variazione http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDg56TnhdV4 Robert de Visee's setting of the French Noel, "Je me suis leve par un martinet" htt

[LUTE] Holiday Theorbo Time!

2009-12-24 Thread chriswilke
Hi all, Its that time again - time for eggnog, fruitcake, extended time with extended family, desperate last minute trips to the mall... and of course, theorbo music! Here are two clips of (just in time) seasonal theorbo offerings: My arrangement of "It Came Upon a Midnight Clear

[LUTE] Re: theorbo for sale

2009-10-30 Thread Oskar De Mari
> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:15:00 +1100 > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; baroque-lute-requ...@cs.dartmouth.edu; vihu...@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: oskar_demari_jo...@hotmail.com > Subject: [VIHUELA] theorbo for sale > > Anyone looking for a theorbo? > I

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Women & the Theorbo

2009-10-05 Thread David van Ooijen
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:14 PM, wrote: > After reviewing some lute iconography, it seems that the renaissance lute was > played by more men than women (especially inebriated-looking Dutch guys), but > it seems that the majority of theorbo players are women. Possible reasons? Wome

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Women & the Theorbo

2009-10-05 Thread howard posner
27;m sure, but the principal reason is that theorbos are spectacular-looking things. Years ago, a group I was with played what might loosely be called a "concert" because that we thought we would be professionally videotaped. Two thirds of the video turned out to consist of panning arou

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Women & the Theorbo

2009-10-05 Thread Peter Van Dessel
Dutch guys), but it seems that the majority of theorbo players are women. Possible reasons? *Women are just prettier to paint? *My statistical sampling is biased? *Theorbo was considered a 'woman's instrument' and not popular among 'real men'? *Theorbo was p

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Women & the Theorbo

2009-10-05 Thread theoj89294
All: After reviewing some lute iconography, it seems that the renaissance lute was played by more men than women (especially inebriated-looking Dutch guys), but it seems that the majority of theorbo players are women. Possible reasons? *Women are just prettier to paint? *My statistical

[LUTE] Re: French baroque, Lully and theorbo

2009-09-12 Thread Thomas Schall
I wholeheartedly second Stephen's opinion. All the best Thomas To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: French baroque, Lully and theorbo

2009-09-12 Thread wikla
Dear Stephen (and all), thanks! I understand, and I think you are right. I just had a little bit too much wine, and a temporary Net depression... Now I am a little ashamed... And everything is ok again... :-) All the best, Arto On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:59:23 -0500, "Stephen Arndt" wrote: > Ar

[LUTE] Re: French baroque, Lully and theorbo

2009-09-12 Thread Stephen Arndt
Arto wrote: "Yes, I do know this is an "ad" in vain..., no interest in the List -- as usual." Dear Arto, Please do not assume that lack of response equals lack of interest or appreciation. I, for one, greatly admire your work and have enjoyed your videos over and over, and I am quite conf

[LUTE] Re: French baroque, Lully and theorbo

2009-09-11 Thread Nedmast2
Congratulations on your research, Aro. I am impressed that - given the challenges of the Renaissance lute - there are players that master that and also go on to master (or at least play very well) the Baroque lute and/or the Theorbo, and others of the family. Different tunings

[LUTE] French baroque, Lully and theorbo

2009-09-11 Thread wikla
Dear lutenists, especially the theorbo oriented of us, my tiny research -- which still continues! -- of the theorbo solo arrs made of Lully's songs and pieces, has really convinced me of the quality of the music by Lully, and _also_ the quality of the theorbo players of his time! Str

[LUTE] Re: viol and theorbo

2009-07-15 Thread William Brohinsky
hem. That said, what makes a ren viol renaissance? shape and color, mostly. For that matter, few can tell the difference between a german ren viol and a french 6-string baroque bass. That said, the whole of basso continuo is open to your bass violist, and any viol solo with a BC part that the t

[LUTE] Re: viol and theorbo

2009-07-15 Thread David Tayler
r renaissance viol and theorbo... > > >A theorbo being a baroque instrument and a renaissance viol a, well, >renaissance instrument, you'll have to compromise somewhere, but this >should not distract you in any way from playing beautiful music >together. >16th century music

[LUTE] Re: viol and theorbo

2009-07-15 Thread Sal Salvaggio
Hille Perl and Lee Santana recenty put out a duo cd of music for viol and lute/theorbo etc. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Eleanor Smith wrote: From: Eleanor Smith Subject: [LUTE] Re: viol and theorbo To: "David van Ooijen" Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date:

[LUTE] Re: viol and theorbo

2009-07-15 Thread Eleanor Smith
, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:19 AM, hera caius wrote: I am searching for some music for renaissance viol and theorbo... A theorbo being a baroque instrument and a renaissance viol a, well, renaissance instrument, you'll have to compromise somewhere, but this should not distract you in any way fr

[LUTE] Re: viol and theorbo

2009-07-15 Thread David van Ooijen
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:19 AM, hera caius wrote: >   I am searching for some music for renaissance viol and theorbo... A theorbo being a baroque instrument and a renaissance viol a, well, renaissance instrument, you'll have to compromise somewhere, but this should not distract you in

[LUTE] viol and theorbo

2009-07-15 Thread hera caius
Hello lute players, I am searching for some music for renaissance viol and theorbo... Can anyone point some sources on the net? Or if somebody have some files to share I would be gratefull. Many thanks. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http

[LUTE] An enigma to be solved by the theorbo players! :-)

2009-06-26 Thread wikla
Dear theorbo players, I have a problem in finding the model of one part of an anonymous therobo arr in Res-1106 made of Lully's music. In page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Tiorba/deVisee/Res1106/EntreeDeProserpine_f98v.pdf you can find the theorbo arr. made of the materi

[LUTE] Research on Lully arrangements to theorbo?

2009-06-10 Thread wikla
Hi lutenists, as far as I know/guess, there has been some research on the arrangements/transcriptions of the pieces by Lully to theorbo solo. As some of you may know, I have found some of the models in the operas/ballets by Lully - that were arranged by the anon. or de Visee to theorbo in the

[LUTE] Re: Used Theorbo/13 Course lute?

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Jun 7, 2009, at 1:24 AM, Drew Villeneuve wrote: >Hello everybody, > I am a high school student interested in purchasing a used/new > theorbo or 13 course lute with music scholarship money I won. > ... I have to limit instruments to +/- 3500 US dollars. A theorbo fo

[LUTE] Used Theorbo/13 Course lute?

2009-06-06 Thread Drew Villeneuve
Hello everybody, I am a high school student interested in purchasing a used/new theorbo or 13 course lute with music scholarship money I won. I am particularly interested in any small french and large Italian Theorbos. Due to the unfortunate lack of funds provided to me by the

[LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-10 Thread Anthony Hind
Is it possible some of these left-handed designs derive from [a] the artist knowing nothing of the lute, and working from their imagination In relation to the "Dutch theorbo painting online", the painting does appear to carefully represent the broken strings, and I would

[LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-08 Thread Ed Durbrow
Check the web for Hans Holbein's The Ambassadors. There is much information about the symbols in the painting, among which is a lute with a broken string (disharmony). A rather different time than the Dutch theorbo, of course. On May 9, 2009, at 5:06 AM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: > Doe

[LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-08 Thread David Tayler
llop To: Anthony Hind Cc: lute List Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 4:31:21 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online Broken strings was a typical way for the artist to show 'discord' between the subjects. The Amabassadors is another example. Rob -

[LUTE] Ang: Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-08 Thread kenneth.sp...@bredband.net
Dear list, there certainly are a number of possible interpretations of such paintings. We can be sure that most of the details of such a painting have a symbolic meaning which was clear to the viewer of that time but is more obscure to a contemporary ditto. I would advise a very humble attitud

[LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-08 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 8 mai 09 à 16:31, Rob MacKillop a écrit : Broken strings was a typical way for the artist to show 'discord' between the subjects. The Amabassadors is another example. I thought that broken strings symbilized the danger of general dischord, rather than dischord between the two subjec

[LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-08 Thread
Dear Rob, dear all, sometimes a broken string hinted at the vanity of all things, too (the portrait of Ochsenkhun in his tablature book comes to my mind). And doesn't the women hold the instrument the wrong way round, so that she must reach around the bass strings? Strange couple, indeed! All bes

[LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-08 Thread Rob MacKillop
Broken strings was a typical way for the artist to show 'discord' between the subjects. The Amabassadors is another example. Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-08 Thread Anthony Hind
ngs. She's not just holding the lute the wrong way round, but the lute itself is unplayable! Martin On 8/5/09 13:55, "David van Ooijen" wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:20 PM, wrote: Sotheby's New York will be auctioning a Dutch painting of a theorbo & gamba

[LUTE] Re: Dutch theorbo painting online

2009-05-08 Thread Ed Durbrow
On May 8, 2009, at 9:55 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: >> Sotheby's New York will be auctioning a Dutch painting of a >> theorbo & gamba >> >> >> (the woman doesn't appear to know how to hold a theorbo Judging from the broken strings she must be playin

[LUTE] Re: theorbo

2009-04-13 Thread Leonard Williams
I meant to ask: Is Dominic Robillard making any recordings besides those on You Tube? Leonard On 4/11/09 1:01 AM, "Sauvage Valéry" wrote: > Some De Visee on YT : > > [1]http://www.youtube.com/user/R0billard > > > > V. > > -- > > References > > 1. http://www.youtube.com/user/R0billa

[LUTE] Re: theorbo

2009-04-13 Thread Leonard Williams
I love his Sanz Canarios on Baroque guitar. Is this recording anywhere but YouTube?? Leonard Williams On 4/11/09 1:01 AM, "Sauvage Valéry" wrote: > Some De Visee on YT : > > [1]http://www.youtube.com/user/R0billard > > > > V. > > -- > > References > > 1. http://www.youtube.com/user

[LUTE] Re: theorbo

2009-04-11 Thread Ed Durbrow
That was great! On Apr 11, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Sauvage Valéry wrote: >Some De Visee on YT : > >[1]http://www.youtube.com/user/R0billard Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/luteinfo.html -- To get on or off this list see list information

[LUTE] theorbo

2009-04-10 Thread Sauvage Valéry
Some De Visee on YT : [1]http://www.youtube.com/user/R0billard V. -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/user/R0billard To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Lully theorbo arrangements by de Visee

2009-03-24 Thread wikla
Hi lutenists and hang around gang, I've played to the YouTube and Vimeo some arrangements of pieces by Lully. The arranger of these pieces is no less than Robert de Visee himself. You'll find the links, and also the music by de Visee, and _also_ most of the models, the original versions by Lul

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo sneezes

2009-02-22 Thread howard posner
, by definition, the maximum for a double-re-entrant theorbo in G, and thus a theorbo in A has to be smaller. Drop the assumption and the whole "toy theorbo" debate vanishes in a puff of logic. > It was precisely the unecessary stringing of small theorboes (say, > fingered string lengths

[LUTE] Theorbo sizes [was: Theorbo Nicki don't lose that number]

2009-02-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Howard, Praetorius does indeed give a G theorbo tuning and depicts two theorboes: one with a fingered string length of around 89cm ('Lang: Romanische Theorba: Chitarron') and the other of 97cm ('Paduanische Theorba'). But to suppose he would have expected

[LUTE] Re: Toyota Theorbo for rent, low mileage

2009-02-21 Thread demery
> the size of car boots. well, if one strips out the uneeded seats, A toyota echo sedan can take a modest amount of lumber 3m long with the 'boot' closed; should have no trouble with most long-necked beasties. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.d

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