Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

2015-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
These will work http://jalopnik.com/watch-what-happens-when-you-use-iphones-as-brake-pads-1723214018 --R On 8/10/15 10:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: It is not the pads that need the breakin. It is the rotors. proper breakin coats the rotors evenly with the pad material which bonds

Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

2015-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So, it was a successful robbery? --R On 8/10/15 9:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Arizona. Also lost about $500,000 in shop tools in the event... so it stings. Major reward posted.. perhaps they will be caught... likely it all went to Mexico. ___ http

[MBZ] OT Ephraim and The Mule

2015-08-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Gullah story told by Dick Reeves many years ago, about Ephraim and the Mule. Mr. Reeves can be credited with starting the movement to preserve the Gullah language. He worked tirelessly to see that it wasn't lost to history. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdEi6TVAjP4 The Legares mentioned her

[MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread ned kleinhenz via Mercedes
My wife drives a 2006 Toyota Sienna. The air conditioning in that mini-van lost its refrigerant. The Toyota dealer wanted $3,595 to replace the corroded rear evaporator and rear refrigerant lines needed to fix the leak. I told the dealer “Air conditioning is nice, but not worth that much to us.”

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Operative word here is "Dealer"... Take it to a well versed independent AC shop and have them put in a piece of line that bypasses the rear evap unit, then recharge the system. The rear unit is plumbed in series with the front unit as far as the coolant flow, most likely. One compressor feeds bot

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I think I would be complaining to Toyota too. Notwithstanding the fact that the vehicle is 10 years old, why would the evaporator be corroded? I had an 86 Chevy Suburban with dual air and had some trouble with the aluminum pipes under the vehicle being eaten by salt until I figured out a way to

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
My favorite reply to "You can't do that" is, "Just watch." Wilton - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "G Mann" Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c Operative word here is "Dealer"... T

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Certainly should be able to if the refrigerant lines to the rear evap are blocked/rerouted so as to isolate the rear evap from the system and the lines for the front evap are connected so as to provide a complete circuit only to/from the front evap. In '75 I added an AC evaporator to rear of

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Friends don't let friends drive a toada. get a dogde. They run 300 to 350k miles and the A/c works. I see no reason why you can't plug off the rear. Plug em and charge the remaining system. My wife drives a 2006 Toyota Sienna. The air conditioning in that mini-van lost its refrigerant.

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
ATTABOY On Aug 11, 2015 5:48 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" wrote: > My favorite reply to "You can't do that" is, "Just watch." > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Cc: "G Mann" > Sent: Tuesday, August 1

Re: [MBZ] OT Ephraim and The Mule

2015-08-11 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
What happened to the end of the story? The audio dies around the five minute mark... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 11, 2015 1:37:42 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: >Gullah story told by Dick Reeves many years ago, about Ephraim and the >Mule. Mr. Reeves can

[MBZ] This guy is my hero!

2015-08-11 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is my hero!

2015-08-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A good AC shop can probably fix it for half what the dealership wanted or less... -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c Operative word here is "Dealer"... Take i

Re: [MBZ] This guy is my hero!

2015-08-11 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The rear unit is plumbed in series with the front unit as far as the coolant flow, most likely. Unlikely. Remember how AC works: it is not pumping cold fluid around, it is pumping HOT fluid around. The phase change that occurs at/after the expansion valve sucks the heat out of the environment.

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The rear unit is plumbed in series with the front unit as far as the coolant flow, most likely. Unlikely. Remember how AC works: it is not pumping cold fluid around, it is pumping HOT fluid around. The phase change that occurs at/after the expansion valve sucks the heat out of the environment.

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Curly, I stand corrected. Your verbal diagram is the more likely arrangement. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The rear unit is plumbed in series with the front unit as far as the >>> coolant flow, most likely. >>> >> >> Unlikely. Remem

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Most likely in parallel with expansion valve at each evap. like my '75 Dodge. I could run both at same time or either one independently - did so for about 17 years. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Curly McLain" <126

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Uh, I think that was Jim, whom I quoted. Curly, I stand corrected. Your verbal diagram is the more likely arrangement. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> Unlikely. Remember how AC works: it is not pumping cold fluid around, it

Re: [MBZ] OT Mini-van dual zone a/c

2015-08-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > G Mann wrote: > > > > The rear unit is plumbed in series with the front unit as > > far as the coolant flow, most likely. > Jim wrote: > > Unlikely. > My read on it is that there are TWO expansion > valves, all is is wired in parallel. The > compressor/condenser is sized up accordingly. T