Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-11 Thread Arthur Rosendahl via ntg-context
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:06:14PM +0100, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > I can add sanskit patterns to the distribution but I wonder: how does this > interact with reordering in fonts? Do we need to postpone hyphenation till > after reordering? If you mean glyph reordering in Indic scripts,

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-10 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/9/2022 11:23 AM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: 1. In Sanskrit prose it is possible to produce compounds that span a few lines. The concept of    "word" or "word division" fails here, as are the TeX mechanisms.    What we need in practice would be a "hyphenation" for the language S

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-10 Thread Arthur Rosendahl via ntg-context
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 02:31:53PM +0100, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote: > Yves Codet (Assistant Professor at Toulouse University, member of CRAPA an > institutional public research in Humanities in South of France) is involved > in TeX patterns for Greek and Indic languages. He is a t

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-10 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Thank you very much Arthur ! Yves Codet (Assistant Professor at Toulouse University, member of CRAPA an institutional public research in Humanities in South of France) is involved in TeX patterns for Greek and Indic languages. He is a translator of Indian theater pieces (among other things).

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-10 Thread Arthur Rosendahl via ntg-context
On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 11:46:44PM +0100, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > On 1/9/2022 11:23 AM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: >> 1. In Sanskrit prose it is possible to produce compounds that span a few >> lines. The concept of >>    "word" or "word division" fails here, as are the TeX mec

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-09 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/9/2022 11:23 AM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: 1. In Sanskrit prose it is possible to produce compounds that span a few lines. The concept of    "word" or "word division" fails here, as are the TeX mechanisms.    What we need in practice would be a "hyphenation" for the language S

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-09 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/9/2022 11:23 AM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: 2. Fonts that contain all necessary diacritics have become sparse. (This is more a lamentation, not    much one can do about it, I guess).    When I started TeXing people were used to writing aṭavī as a\d{t}av{\=\i}. Not user friendly

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-09 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/9/2022 11:23 AM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote:    Thank god, we have many TeX fonts derived from older ones that still work, but many entries in    the TeX Font Catalogue do not! It's often not that bad when you use context ... % \enabletrackers[*comp*] \definefontfeature[defaul

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-09 Thread Robert via ntg-context
Dear list, I am currently working on a critical edition as well, and follow the discussion with interest. For the time being, I prefer Latex over Context for this project. In addition to Jürgen's remarks on transcription fonts, a small contribution: Arabists and turcologists working with transc

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-09 Thread hanneder--- via ntg-context
I was just writing a mail (below) and saw: They do indic scripts and Kai made the first version of the devanagari code for the context fontloader code that I then optimized. Fascinating. Where can I learn more about that or is that user-unfriendly (my technical knowledge is rather limited).

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-08 Thread BPJ via ntg-context
Den lör 8 jan. 2022 12:44Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> skrev: > Luigi, > > Thank you for the link. > > Unfortunately this site mentions some typesetting work for research on > Stoicism (and other stuff) and on uploading the manuscripts of the English > philosopher John

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Thanks Hans for this detailed informations ! Le 08/01/2022 à 14:03, Hans Hagen via ntg-context a écrit : On 1/8/2022 12:40 PM, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote: Luigi, Thank you for the link. Unfortunately this site mentions some typesetting work for research on Stoicism (and other

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-08 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/8/2022 12:40 PM, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote: Luigi, Thank you for the link. Unfortunately this site mentions some typesetting work for research on Stoicism (and other stuff) and on uploading the manuscripts of the English philosopher John Locke, but apparently some links a

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Luigi, Thank you for the link. Unfortunately this site mentions some typesetting work for research on Stoicism (and other stuff) and on uploading the manuscripts of the English philosopher John Locke, but apparently some links are dead and the maintenance of the site seems to have stopped sin

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-07 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/7/2022 6:25 PM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: Probably the situation in South Asian Studies (Indology) is peculiar. As I indicated, there are mostly no  budgets for book typesetting in Indology and I know of no real expert for typesetting in this field. In other words, the authors ha

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-07 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:25 PM hanneder--- via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > > Probably the situation in South Asian Studies (Indology) is peculiar. > As I indicated, there are mostly no budgets for book typesetting in > Indology and > I know of no real expert for typesetting in this

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-07 Thread hanneder--- via ntg-context
Probably the situation in South Asian Studies (Indology) is peculiar. As I indicated, there are mostly no budgets for book typesetting in Indology and I know of no real expert for typesetting in this field. In other words, the authors have do it themselves, usually in Word etc., but some do

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-06 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Am 06.01.22 um 19:41 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: there was a time when publishers did typesetting and printing themselves in which case they might have some interest in tools but afaik that time is long gone (and i admit that i never met a publisher where investing in know how and techn

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-06 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 1/6/2022 6:47 PM, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote: The question of funding computing tools is an issue : it is true in a private situation when you want to write a manuscript with versioning (you have to know how it works), but it is more relevant within an academic field of resea

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-06 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Le 06/01/2022 à 17:57, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context a écrit : On 1/5/22 12:52 PM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: Dear critical edition experts, the examples given in ConTeXt_Test_Footnote-ComplexMedieval.pdf and the other posts are really answering my questions. Everything seems to be

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-06 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/5/22 12:52 PM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: > > Dear critical edition experts, > > the examples given in ConTeXt_Test_Footnote-ComplexMedieval.pdf and > the other posts are really answering my questions. Everything seems > to be already there and if there were a Wiki on critical edition

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-06 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/5/22 1:34 PM, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote: > Pablo and Luigi, > > Or simply add this paper to the bibliographical survey at the end of the > wiki page made by Thomas ? > > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/TEI_xml Jean-Pierre, excellent idea! Pablo ___

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-06 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/5/22 6:39 PM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: > Dear Jean-Pierre, > > I started preparing some examples, but first a quick question: Where > can I find out the exact behaviour of a command option like aNote. > > If you define a \cNote with \definelinenote[cNote][n=3] as in your > example, t

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-06 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Hi Pablo ! Herewith the Luigi Scarso file translated into English ... Le 05/01/2022 à 12:54, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context a écrit : On 1/5/22 9:43 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote: [...] quite old (2014),  but perhaps still interesting: embedding of a tei-xml into a tagged pdf https:/

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: > Dear Jean-Pierre, > > I started preparing some examples, but first a quick question: Where > can I find out the exact behaviour of a command option like aNote. > > If you define a \cNote with \definelinenote[cNote][n=3] as in your > ex

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
The starting point of the discussion on reledmac and other related points, has begun on May 13, 2016. See here about the way to get a ConTeXt equivalent to a LaTeX encoding : https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg81793.html

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread hanneder--- via ntg-context
}{première note} senatoriisque prints laboribus in the text and as the lemma! I cannot see where this is defined (and explained). - Nachricht von Jean-Pierre Delange - Datum: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:29:20 +0100 Von: Jean-Pierre Delange Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Hi Luigi & Pablo, I’ve thinking that Google translate may be provide some help. I’ll try it ! > Le 5 janv. 2022 à 17:13, luigi scarso via ntg-context a > écrit : > > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 12:54 PM Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context > mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote: > On 1/5/22 9:43 AM,

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 12:54 PM Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > On 1/5/22 9:43 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote: > > [...] > > quite old (2014), but perhaps still interesting: > > embedding of a tei-xml into a tagged pdf > > https://www.guitex.org/home/images/

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Am 05.01.22 um 12:54 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context: On 1/5/22 9:43 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote: [...] quite old (2014),  but perhaps still interesting: embedding of a tei-xml into a tagged pdf https://www.guitex.org/home/images/ArsTeXnica/AT018/teitagged.pdf Luigi, if you

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
I've found in NTG archives a discussion on XML analysis tool, which make me feel like a soldier who wants to fight after the battle ! ... 5 years ago See here : https://ntg-context.ntg.narkive.com/HAES9QLP/tei-to-context-xml-mappings So, the question is (I don't want to start some troll,

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Pablo and Luigi, Or simply add this paper to the bibliographical survey at the end of the wiki page made by Thomas ? https://wiki.contextgarden.net/TEI_xml Le 05/01/2022 à 12:54, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context a écrit : On 1/5/22 9:43 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote: [...] quite ol

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Dear Jürgen, Would you mind to test the MWE sample I've given (ConTeXt_Test_Footnote-ComplexMedieval.tex) whith a little bit more information inside - in order to test furthermore ? You can change the text, even the \dorecurse option, in order to see what simply works and what does not for yo

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/5/22 9:43 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote: > [...] > quite old (2014),  but perhaps still interesting: > embedding of a tei-xml into a tagged pdf > https://www.guitex.org/home/images/ArsTeXnica/AT018/teitagged.pdf Luigi, if you allow me a comment (or even a suggestion), an English ver

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread hanneder--- via ntg-context
Dear critical edition experts, the examples given in ConTeXt_Test_Footnote-ComplexMedieval.pdf and the other posts are really answering my questions. Everything seems to be already there and if there were a Wiki on critical editions I would perhaps have not even asked. Thanks a lot! If any

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Thank you Luigi ! "Quite old" doesn't matter. The date of the wiki page from Thomas is 2010... And my own contribution to first steps with ConTeXt (in French and not for mathematics) through a Wikibook is no more valuable, full of errors and obsolete on many aspects (https://fr.wikibooks.org/

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 12:00 AM Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > Thomas, > Even if I am an occasional user of CTX (mainly class courses for beginners > and sophomore or by trying to write samples of what it is possible to > achieve with it), and if I think I am aw

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Thomas, Even if I am an occasional user of CTX (mainly class courses for beginners and sophomore or by trying to write samples of what it is possible to achieve with it), and if I think I am aware about what can do CTX or what it cannot do, I didn't know that you wrote a  wiki page on TEI-XML

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-04 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
I basically agree with everything you say, Jean-Pierre. Publishers are modern-day robber barons, and they have been stifling and exploiting scholars and scholarship for many years now. Behemoths such as Brill, de Gruyter, or Elsevier are bankrupting libraries in the entire world. However, we sch

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-04 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Thomas, You are deeply right ! But this is an issue in academic edition, not only because students read no more at length (specially in humanities), and by consequence, don't buy books, but among other reasons there is a general problem in publishing in academic fields, pointed by Jürgen Hann

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-04 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context
> On 3. Jan 2022, at 10:43, hanneder--- via ntg-context > wrote: > > While the system is ingenious > and a great relief (for we do not have to work with xml directly), I am also > critical about these > new demands, because they force us to use a fairly complex system for > sometimes quite si

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-04 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 1/3/22 10:43 AM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: > For the last two decades edmac and its further developments (now > reledmac) have become the standard for critical editions. In my > experience the basic requirements for typesetting critical editions > were and are: > > - footnotes have to b

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-04 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 12/21/21 10:50 AM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: > > Details: > I was able to find the article "Ediciones críticas con ConTeXt" (is > this in use?) Hi Jürgen, if you mean http://www.ediciones-criticas.tk/pdf/criticas-context.pdf, this is outdated. I hope to update it in a not so distant f

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
ings Jürgen - Nachricht von Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context - Datum: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 16:39:12 +    Von: Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context Antwort an: mailing list for ConTeXt users    Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?     An: mailing list for ConTeXt users   

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
jogamaya} > \rdg[wit={N22}]{{\supplied{\gap{reason=lost,unit=word,quantity=1 > } > > Please ignore the details, but perhaps you get my point. It is all becoming > very ingenious and it > is a great relief that all this can be automatized. But it is also > increasingly complicated

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-03 Thread hanneder--- via ntg-context
t Antwort an: mailing list for ConTeXt users Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions? An: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Bruce Horrocks , Idris Samawi Hamid On 24 Dec 2021, at 12:07, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: a lot related to numbering, referencing and no

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2021-12-24 Thread Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
> On 24 Dec 2021, at 12:07, Hans Hagen via ntg-context > wrote: > > a lot related to numbering, referencing and notes and much of that is present > > so if you can team up with other critical edition users ... i suppose that > Idris can send you his onthology-so-far I'm not a user but was i

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2021-12-24 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 12/21/2021 10:50 AM, hanneder--- via ntg-context wrote: I just started switching after long years of typesetting with La-/Omega-/pdfTeX to Context and was exploring the capabilities of the program for typesetting critical editions. So I was wondering whether there is any updated information

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2021-12-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Am 21.12.21 um 11:06 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context: Thanks for bringing this topic up again. I'd also be highly interested in this! Me too as a publisher in the humanities and evangelist for ConTeXt ;) I raised the subject at previous context meetings, but the requirements for criticial

Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2021-12-21 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context
..@staff.uni-marburg.de > Betreff: [NTG-context] Critical Editions? > > > I just started switching after long years of typesetting with La-/Omega- > /pdfTeX to Context and was exploring the capabilities of the program for > typesetting critical editions. So I was wondering whether

[NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2021-12-21 Thread hanneder--- via ntg-context
I just started switching after long years of typesetting with La-/Omega-/pdfTeX to Context and was exploring the capabilities of the program for typesetting critical editions. So I was wondering whether there is any updated information on how to produce critical editions? Details: I was

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2015-07-24 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7/22/2015 11:33 PM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote: Dear Pablo, Thank you very much for what you proposed — it did work indeed. I tried to achieve the same at some length this afternoon. I think I understand what is going on in the first macro, but wouldn’t have been able to arrive at the the

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2015-07-23 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 07/22/2015 11:33 PM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote: > Dear Pablo, > > Thank you very much for what you proposed — it did work indeed. I > tried to achieve the same at some length this afternoon. I think I > understand what is going on in the first macro, but wouldn’t have been > able to arrive at t

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2015-07-22 Thread tala...@fastmail.fm
Dear Pablo, Thank you very much for what you proposed — it did work indeed. I tried to achieve the same at some length this afternoon. I think I understand what is going on in the first macro, but wouldn’t have been able to arrive at the the second one for \variant, or the counter (and still d

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2015-07-22 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 07/22/2015 09:26 PM, Talal wrote: > [...] > I would like to be able to automate (through macros) the making of a > critical apparatus' note. This is for two reasons. First, the body text > and the lemma in the note below should be identical: as such, they > ideally not have to be typed twice, as

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2015-07-22 Thread Talal
Hans Hagen wxs.nl> writes: > > Actually ranges have always been supported ... > > Maybe I should add those commands. > > Hans Picking up on an old thread, again. The document below lays out the three basic parts of a critical apparatus of a critical edition of a text: (1) the body text; (2)

Re: [NTG-context] CRITICAL EDITIONS MODULE

2012-12-16 Thread Philipp Gesang
· > On 12/15/2012 5:11 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > >On 12/14/2012 01:33 PM, MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote: > >>Hello > >>I would get the module "CritTeXt" Idris Samawi. I have the documentation > >>but still does not appear on the "ConTeXt wiki". I think it may be > >>interesting to deve

Re: [NTG-context] CRITICAL EDITIONS MODULE

2012-12-16 Thread Hans Hagen
On 12/15/2012 5:11 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 12/14/2012 01:33 PM, MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote: Hello I would get the module "CritTeXt" Idris Samawi. I have the documentation but still does not appear on the "ConTeXt wiki". I think it may be interesting to develop critical editions. Thanks

Re: [NTG-context] CRITICAL EDITIONS MODULE

2012-12-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On 12/14/2012 01:33 PM, MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote: Hello I would get the module "CritTeXt" Idris Samawi. I have the documentation but still does not appear on the "ConTeXt wiki". I think it may be interesting to develop critical editions. Thanks to all I'm afraid the module doesn't exist. W

[NTG-context] CRITICAL EDITIONS MODULE

2012-12-14 Thread MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ
HelloI would get the module "CritTeXt" Idris Samawi. I have the documentation but still does not appear on the "ConTeXt wiki". I think it may be interesting to develop critical editions.Thanks to all-- Manuel González Suárez __

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-23 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
[If this is considered too off-topic for this list, please ignore this mail. My main point has still something to do with ConTeXt, but I guess this discussion shouldn't be continued on the list.] On 07/22/2012 08:07 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: And to explain that a bit: it's not merely "ugly." If

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-22 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
On 20/07/12 20:21, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > [...] > And to explain that a bit: it's not merely "ugly." If all you want is > the printed book, you don't care about the ugliness and simply code this > way to get the desired output. However, we are in the 21st century. We > should be beyond the p

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-22 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
On 20/07/12 22:41, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 20-7-2012 20:21, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: >> [...] >> And to explain that a bit: it's not merely "ugly." If all you want is >> the printed book, you don't care about the ugliness and simply code this >> way to get the desired output. However, we are in the

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-20 Thread Hans Hagen
On 20-7-2012 20:21, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 07/20/2012 08:01 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hans speaks about something like this \startone … \starttwo … \stopone … \stopone where environment ranges overlap. And to explain that a bit: it's not merely "ugly." If all you want is the printed

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-20 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On 07/20/2012 08:01 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hans speaks about something like this \startone … \starttwo … \stopone … \stopone where environment ranges overlap. And to explain that a bit: it's not merely "ugly." If all you want is the printed book, you don't care about the ugliness and s

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-20 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
On 20/07/12 17:41, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > Just a few comments on this helpful mail: Thank you very much for your reply, Thomas. > On 07/19/2012 12:57 PM, MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote: >> I'm not a classical philologist, but the way ConTeXt works is much >> clearer than ledmac to me (although

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 20.07.2012 um 19:33 schrieb Sietse Brouwer: > Hans wrote: >> but as you mention the interface is a bit problematic as start/stop is not >> nice when being nested > > Do you mean it doesn't look nice, or is it so that nesting or > interleaving \startlinenote[tag] ... \stoplinenote[tag] enviro

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-20 Thread Sietse Brouwer
I'm trying to get straight in my head what critical-edition-related commands are already implemented in ConTeXt. Implemented: (a) footnotes on specific lines, specified inline: \linenote{note text} (b) ditto on line ranges: \startlinenote[tag]{note text} ... \stoplinenote[tag] (c) tag a line and r

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-20 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On 07/20/2012 06:45 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Actually ranges have always been supported (as we needed in the previous century already for referring to passages in texts where students had to comment on): Yes, that's something I forgot in my mail: ask on the list, and chances are that it has alrea

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-20 Thread Hans Hagen
On 20-7-2012 17:41, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: This may be a bit more difficult, because it involves thinking about proper input syntax. How do you want to mark this passage? If you can come up with clean and unequivocal syntax and demonstrate it in an example, your chances aren't too bad. However

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-20 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Just a few comments on this helpful mail: On 07/19/2012 12:57 PM, MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote: I'm not a classical philologist, but the way ConTeXt works is much clearer than ledmac to me (although I have only tested ledmac for a couple of days). I haven't looked at ledmac too closely, and of

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-19 Thread MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ
Hi Pablo..Thanks for your quick response. The truth is that I am very, very newbie working with ConTeXt (in fact I know only a few months) but I think the possibilities are extraordinary for all kinds of documents.The issue of critical issues is fairly well resolved in LaTeX with "ledmac", but I th

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-18 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
On 18/07/12 12:09, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > On 7/18/12 10:10 AM, MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote: >> Hey. >> First, thanks to Andreas for his solution to the bibliographies. >> Second, a question: is there a module to produce critical editions with >> ConTeXt? In critical editions usually have sever

Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-18 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On 7/18/12 10:10 AM, MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote: Hey. First, thanks to Andreas for his solution to the bibliographies. Second, a question: is there a module to produce critical editions with ConTeXt? In critical editions usually have several groups of footnotes and reference is usually made by

[NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt

2012-07-18 Thread MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ
Hey. First, thanks to Andreas for his solution to the bibliographies. Second, a question: is there a module to produce critical editions with ConTeXt? In critical editions usually have several groups of footnotes and reference is usually made by line number. With LaTeX can be done using "ledmac", b

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context

2005-03-16 Thread h h extern
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Sorry, hit the "send" button by accident. OK, I feel guilty resurrecting this stale thread, but I can't resist asking again. I found this in m-arabtex.tex: %\pushmacro\edmacloaded \let \edmacloaded \undefined and later %\popmacro\edmacloaded Both lines are comm

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context / arabtex

2005-03-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Thanks Hans, but it's primarily edmac that I'm interested in, not arabtex. Could the edmac macros just be part of a Context module? not so much edmac, but similar functionality; as idris suggests: just provide a request for functionality + examples; think about what you wa

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context / arabtex

2005-03-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:30:38 +0100, Thomas A.Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Hans, but it's primarily edmac that I'm interested in, not arabtex. Could the edmac macros just be part of a Context module? I actually considered that. During my own pre-ConTeXt wor

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context / arabtex

2005-03-15 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:30:38 +0100, Thomas A.Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks Hans, but it's primarily edmac that I'm interested in, not arabtex. Could the edmac macros just be part of a Context module? I actually considered that. During my own pre-ConTeXt work I dived deep into the ED

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context / arabtex

2005-03-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Thanks Hans, but it's primarily edmac that I'm interested in, not arabtex. Could the edmac macros just be part of a Context module? Thomas On Mar 13, 2005, at 11:49 PM, h h extern wrote: i talked with Klaus Lagally at eurotex and he will make arabtex a bit more context friendly: a few more hooks

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context / arabtex

2005-03-13 Thread h h extern
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: OK, I feel guilty resurrecting this stale thread, but I can't resist asking again. I found this in m-arabtex.tex: %\pushmacro\edmacloaded \let \edmacloaded \undefined and later %\popmacro\edmacloaded Both lines are commented out, so I'm still wondering if i tal

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context

2005-03-12 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Sorry, hit the "send" button by accident. OK, I feel guilty resurrecting this stale thread, but I can't resist asking again. I found this in m-arabtex.tex: %\pushmacro\edmacloaded \let \edmacloaded \undefined and later %\popmacro\edmacloaded Both lines are commented out, so I'm still

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context

2005-03-12 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
OK, I feel guilty resurrecting this stale thread, but I can't resist asking again. I found this in m-arabtex.tex: %\pushmacro\edmacloaded \let \edmacloaded \undefined and later %\popmacro\edmacloaded Both lines are commented out, so I'm still wondering if The absolute basics that are

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, at 05:46 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: if i'm right, you have somewhere: \input page-nnt \input core-nnt \input core-lnt (multiple footnote classes, arbitrary footnote placement, line refs in footnotes and so) hmmm, is this part of the distribution? Couldn't find anything

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context

2003-09-23 Thread Hans Hagen
At 09:12 23/09/2003 -0600, you wrote: Hi Thomas, "Thomas A.Schmitz" wrote: > In March/April 2002, Hans and Idris had an interesting exchange about > the topic "critical editions in context" here in ntg-context; the main > question was whether the functionality of edmac could be implemented in > c

Re: [NTG-context] critical editions in context

2003-09-23 Thread Idris S Hamid
Hi Thomas, "Thomas A.Schmitz" wrote: > In March/April 2002, Hans and Idris had an interesting exchange about > the topic "critical editions in context" here in ntg-context; the main > question was whether the functionality of edmac could be implemented in > context. I'd be curious to know whether

[NTG-context] critical editions in context

2003-09-23 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Sorry if this is a double post; I sent this message on Friday, and I think it somehow got lost. In March/April 2002, Hans and Idris had an interesting exchange about the topic "critical editions in context" here in ntg-context; the main question was whether the functionality of edmac could be i