[openstack-dev] Cross-Project meeting, Tue December 9th, 21:00 UTC

2014-12-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dear PTLs, cross-project liaisons and anyone else interested, We'll have a cross-project meeting Tuesday at 21:00 UTC, with the following agenda: * Convergence on specs process (johnthetubaguy) * Approval process differences * Path structure differences * specs.o.o aspect differences (toc)

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Query on creating multiple resources

2014-12-09 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hey, I think it’s a question of what the final goal is. For just creating security groups as a resource I think Georgy and Zane are right, just use Heat. If the goal is to try Mistral or have this simple workflow as part of more complex then it’s totally fine to use Mistral. Sorry, I’m probably

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Query on creating multiple resources

2014-12-09 Thread Renat Akhmerov
No problem, let us know if you have any other questions. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. > On 09 Dec 2014, at 11:57, Sushma Korati wrote: > > > Hi, > > Thank you guys. > > Yes I am able to do this with heat, but I faced issues while trying the same > with mistral. > As suggested will try w

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Event Subscription

2014-12-09 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Ok, got it. So my general suggestion here is: let's keep it as simple as possible for now, create something that works and then let’s see how to improve it. And yes, consumers may be and mostly will be 3rd parties. Thanks Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. > On 09 Dec 2014, at 08:25, W Chan wr

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Action context passed to all action executions by default

2014-12-09 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Hi Winson, I think it makes perfect sense. The reason I think is mostly historical and this can be reviewed now. Can you pls file a BP and describe your suggested design on that? I mean how we need to alter interface Action etc. Thanks Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. > On 09 Dec 2014, at 13:

Re: [openstack-dev] Cross-Project meeting, Tue December 9th, 21:00 UTC

2014-12-09 Thread joehuang
Hi, If time is available, how about adding one agenda to guide the direction for cascading to move forward? Thanks in advance. The topic is : " Need cross-program decision to run cascading as an incubated project mode or register BP separately in each involved project. CI for cascading is qui

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Some questions about Ironic service

2014-12-09 Thread Fox, Kevin M
No to questions 1, 3, and 4. Yes to 2, but very minimally. From: xianchaobo Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:29:50 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Cc: Luohao (brian) Subject: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Some questions about Ironic service Hello, all I’m t

[openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] out-of-tree plugin for Mech driver/L2 and vif_driver

2014-12-09 Thread Maxime Leroy
Hi there. I would like some clarification regarding support of out-of-tree plugin in nova and in neutron. First, on neutron side, there are mechanisms to support out-of-tree plugin for L2 plugin (core_plugin) and ML2 mech driver (stevedore/entrypoint). Most of ML2/L2 plugins need to have a speci

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] How to get past pxelinux.0 bootloader?

2014-12-09 Thread Fox, Kevin M
You probably want to use the agent driver, not the pxe one. It lets you use bootloaders from the image. From: Peeyush Gupta Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:55:39 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [Ironi

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Roman Prykhodchenko
It is true that IPA and FuelAgent share a lot of functionality in common. However there is a major difference between them which is that they are intended to be used to solve a different problem. IPA is a solution for provision-use-destroy-use_by_different_user use-case and is really great for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] How to get past pxelinux.0 bootloader?

2014-12-09 Thread Peeyush Gupta
So, basically if I am using pxe driver, I would "have to" provide pxelinux.0? On 12/09/2014 03:24 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > You probably want to use the agent driver, not the pxe one. It lets you use > bootloaders from the image. > > > From: Peeyush Gupta > Sent:

Re: [openstack-dev] Cross-Project meeting, Tue December 9th, 21:00 UTC

2014-12-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
joehuang wrote: > If time is available, how about adding one agenda to guide the direction for > cascading to move forward? Thanks in advance. > > The topic is : " Need cross-program decision to run cascading as an incubated > project mode or register BP separately in each involved project. CI f

[openstack-dev] [neutron] mid-cycle "hot reviews"

2014-12-09 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
Hi all! It would be great if you could use this thread to post hot reviews on stuff that it’s being worked out during the mid-cycle, where others from different timezones could participate. I know posting reviews to the list is not permitted, but I think an exception in this case would

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] REST and Django

2014-12-09 Thread Tihomir Trifonov
Sorry for the late reply, just few thoughts on the matter. IMO the REST middleware should be as thin as possible. And I mean thin in terms of processing - it should not do pre/post processing of the requests, but just unpack/pack. So here is an example: instead of making AJAX calls that contain i

[openstack-dev] People of OpenStack (and their IRC nicks)

2014-12-09 Thread Matthew Gilliard
Sometimes, I want to ask the author of a patch about it on IRC. However, there doesn't seem to be a reliable way to find out someone's IRC handle. The potential for useful conversation is sometimes missed. Unless there's a better alternative which I didn't find, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Pe

Re: [openstack-dev] People of OpenStack (and their IRC nicks)

2014-12-09 Thread Nicolas Trangez
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 10:46 +, Matthew Gilliard wrote: > can we autogenerate it somehow? Maybe some 'irc_nick' field in Stackalytic's default_data.json could be added and used to populate such page? Nicolas ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [ThirdPartyCI] Need help setting up CI

2014-12-09 Thread Bailey, Darragh
Hi Eduard, I would check the trigger settings in the job, particularly which "type" of pattern matching is being used for the branches. Found it tends to be the spot that catches most people out when configuring jobs with the Gerrit Trigger plugin. If you're looking to trigger against all branche

[openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it functions on git commit message, which makes it tough to run locally. It also would be a reason to prevent us from not rerunning tests on commit message c

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [ThirdPartyCI] Need help setting up CI

2014-12-09 Thread Eduard Matei
Hi Darragh, thanks for your input I double checked the job settings and fixed it: - build triggers is set to Gerrit event - Gerrit trigger server is "Gerrit" (configured from Gerrit Trigger Plugin and tested separately) - Trigger on: Patchset Created - Gerrit Project: Type: Path, Pattern openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [MagnetoDB][api] Hello from the API WG

2014-12-09 Thread isviridov
Hello API WG, It is nice to see such warm welcoming! We have started using the flag in order to join the API WG initiative and get feedback about our current API and the guidance for future improvements. Current API is described at RTD [1] as a text, but structured form is always better for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Vladimir Kozhukalov
Just a short explanation of Fuel use case. Fuel use case is not a cloud. Fuel is a deployment tool. We install OS on bare metal servers and on VMs and then configure this OS using Puppet. We have been using Cobbler as our OS provisioning tool since the beginning of Fuel. However, Cobbler assumes u

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Yuriy Zveryanskyy
Good day Ironicers. I do not want to discuss questions like "Is feature X good for release Y?" or "Is feature Z in Ironic scope or not?". I want to get an answer for this: Is Ironic a flexible, easy extendable and user-oriented solution for deployment? Yes, it is I think. IPA is the great softw

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:39:43AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. > > 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it > functions on git commit message, which makes it tough to run locally. It > also would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
Hi folks, Thank you for additional explanation, it does clarify things a bit. I'd like to note, however, that you talk a lot about how _different_ Fuel Agent is from what Ironic does now. I'd like actually to know how well it's going to fit into what Ironic does (in additional to your specific

Re: [openstack-dev] People of OpenStack (and their IRC nicks)

2014-12-09 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:46:12AM +, Matthew Gilliard wrote: > Sometimes, I want to ask the author of a patch about it on IRC. > However, there doesn't seem to be a reliable way to find out someone's > IRC handle. The potential for useful conversation is sometimes > missed. Unless there's a

Re: [openstack-dev] Cross-Project meeting, Tue December 9th, 21:00 UTC

2014-12-09 Thread joehuang
Hello, Thierry, That sounds great. Best Regards Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang ) From: Thierry Carrez [thie...@openstack.org] Sent: 09 December 2014 18:32 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Cross-Project meeting, Tue December 9t

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2014 07:32 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:39:43AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: >> I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. >> >> 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it >> functions on git commit m

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Dec 09 2014, Sean Dague wrote: > 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it > functions on git commit message, which makes it tough to run locally. It > also would be a reason to prevent us from not rerunning tests on commit > message changes (something we could do

Re: [openstack-dev] People of OpenStack (and their IRC nicks)

2014-12-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-12-09 13:58:28 +0100 (+0100), Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui wrote: > We probably don't want to maintain an other page of Wiki. Yes, the wiki is about low-overhead collaborative documentation. It is not suitable as a database. > We can recommend in how to contribute to fill correctly the IRC >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] out-of-tree plugin for Mech driver/L2 and vif_driver

2014-12-09 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:53:19AM +0100, Maxime Leroy wrote: > I have also proposed a blueprint to have a new plugin mechanism in > nova to load external vif driver. (nova-specs: > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136827/ and nova (rfc patch): > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136857/) > > From

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][devstack] ZeroMQ driver maintenance next steps

2014-12-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:25 PM, Li Ma wrote: > Hi all, I tried to deploy zeromq by devstack and it definitely failed with > lots of problems, like dependencies, topics, matchmaker setup, etc. I've > already registered a blueprint for devstack-zeromq [1]. I added the [devstack] tag to the subject

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Spec reviews this week by the neutron-drivers team

2014-12-09 Thread Kyle Mestery
The neutron-drivers team has started the process of both accepting and rejecting specs for Kilo now. If you've submitted a spec, you will soon see the spec either approved or land in either the abandoned or -2 category. We're doing our best to put helpful messages when we do abandon or -2 specs, bu

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. > > 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it > functions on git commit message, which makes it tough to run locally. It > also would be a reason

[openstack-dev] [Mistral]

2014-12-09 Thread Dmitri Zimine
Winson, thanks for filing the blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-global-context, some clarification questions: 1) how exactly would the user describe these global variables syntactically? In DSL? What can we use as syntax? In the initial workflow input? 2) what

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Vladimir Kozhukalov
Vladimir Kozhukalov On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Dmitry Tantsur wrote: > Hi folks, > > Thank you for additional explanation, it does clarify things a bit. I'd > like to note, however, that you talk a lot about how _different_ Fuel Agent > is from what Ironic does now. I'd like actually to kno

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Vladimir Kozhukalov
s/though/throw/g Vladimir Kozhukalov On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov < vkozhuka...@mirantis.com> wrote: > > > Vladimir Kozhukalov > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Dmitry Tantsur > wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> Thank you for additional explanation, it does clarify things a b

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.messaging][devstack] ZeroMQ driver maintenance next steps

2014-12-09 Thread ozamiatin
+1 To wiki page. I also tried to deploy devstack with zmq, and met the same problems https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1397999 https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1395721 We also have some unimplemented closures in zmq driver: one of them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messa

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Roman Prykhodchenko
So regarding to the 3rd-party CI. There is FuelCI that runs tests for some stackforge projects. Attaching it to Ironic to run required tests that detect problems in FuelAgent driver is not a big deal at all and will be done as soon as it's necessary. On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Vladimir Kozhuk

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 08:16:34AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > On 12/09/2014 07:32 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:39:43AM -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > >> I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules > >> entirely. > >> > >> 1 - the entire H8*

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 12/09/2014 03:40 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote: Vladimir Kozhukalov On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Dmitry Tantsur mailto:dtant...@redhat.com>> wrote: Hi folks, Thank you for additional explanation, it does clarify things a bit. I'd like to note, however, that you talk a lot a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Jim Rollenhagen
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 04:01:07PM +0400, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote: > Just a short explanation of Fuel use case. > > Fuel use case is not a cloud. Fuel is a deployment tool. We install OS on > bare metal servers and on VMs > and then configure this OS using Puppet. We have been using Cobbler as o

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2014 09:11 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. >> >> 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it >> functions on git commit message, which make

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it > functions on git commit message, which makes it tough to run locally. > I do run them locally using git-review custom script features which would launch a flake8 before sendi

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Monty Taylor
On 12/09/2014 03:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. > > 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it > functions on git commit message, which makes it tough to run locally. It > also would be a reason to pre

[openstack-dev] [Third-party] Voting for new Third-party CI weekly IRC meeting time

2014-12-09 Thread Kurt Taylor
All of the feedback so far has supported moving the existing IRC Third-party CI meeting to better fit a worldwide audience. The consensus is that we will have only 1 meeting per week at alternating times. You can see examples of other teams with alternating meeting times at: https://wiki.openstack

[openstack-dev] [Nova] question about "Get Guest Info" row in HypervisorSupportMatrix

2014-12-09 Thread Dmitry Guryanov
Hello! There is a feature in HypervisorSupportMatrix (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix) called "Get Guest Info". Does anybody know, what does it mean? I haven't found anything like this neither in nova api nor in horizon and nova command line. -- Thanks, Dmitry Guryanov

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Yuriy Zveryanskyy
On 12/09/2014 05:00 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 04:01:07PM +0400, Vladimir Kozhukalov wrote: Just a short explanation of Fuel use case. Fuel use case is not a cloud. Fuel is a deployment tool. We install OS on bare metal servers and on VMs and then configure this OS using

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Deprecating exceptions

2014-12-09 Thread Jakub Ruzicka
On 22.9.2014 17:24, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: > On 22/09/14 17:07, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: >> Horizon's tests were recently broken by a change in the Ceilometer >> client that removed a deprecated exception. The exception was >> deprecated for a while already, but as it often is, nobody did the >

[openstack-dev] new library oslo.context released

2014-12-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is pleased to announce the release of oslo.context 0.1.0. This is the first version of oslo.context, the library containing the base class for the request context object. This is a relatively small module, but we’ve placed it in a separate library so oslo.messaging and oslo.log can

[openstack-dev] Hyper-V Meeting Canceled for Today

2014-12-09 Thread Peter Pouliot
Hi All, I'm canceling the hyper-v meeting today due to a conflicting shedules, we will resume next week. Peter J. Pouliot CISSP Microsoft Enterprise Cloud Solutions C:\OpenStack New England Research & Development Center 1 Memorial Drive Cambridge, MA 02142 P: 1.(857).4536436 E: ppoul...@microsof

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] OSAAA-Policy

2014-12-09 Thread Brad Topol
+1! Makes sense. --Brad Brad Topol, Ph.D. IBM Distinguished Engineer OpenStack (919) 543-0646 Internet: bto...@us.ibm.com Assistant: Kendra Witherspoon (919) 254-0680 From: Morgan Fainberg To: Adam Young , "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: 12/08

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] HA issues

2014-12-09 Thread Dulko, Michal
And what about no recovery in case of failure mid-task? I can see that there's some TaskFlow integration done. This lib seems to address these issues (if used with taskflow.persistent submodule, which Cinder isn't using). Any plans for further integration with TaskFlow? -Original Message---

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Brian Curtin
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > - [H305 H306 H307] Organize your imports according to the `Import order > template`_ and `Real-world Import Order Examples`_ below. > > I think these remain reasonable guidelines, but H302 is exceptionally > tricky to get right, and we keep not

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Vladimir Kozhukalov
We assume next step will be to put provision data (disk partition > scheme, maybe other data) into driver_info and make Fuel Agent driver > able to serialize those data (special format) and implement a > corresponding data driver in Fuel Agent for this format. Again very > simple. Maybe it is time

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2014 11:15 AM, Brian Curtis wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> - [H305 H306 H307] Organize your imports according to the `Import order >> template`_ and `Real-world Import Order Examples`_ below. >> >> I think these remain reasonable guidelines, but H302 is ex

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-12-09 07:29:31 -0800 (-0800), Monty Taylor wrote: > I DO like something warning about commit subject length ... but maybe > that should be a git-review function or something. [...] How about a hook in Gerrit to refuse commits based on some simple (maybe even project-specific) rules? -- Je

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] OSAAA-Policy

2014-12-09 Thread Adam Young
On 12/09/2014 10:57 AM, Brad Topol wrote: +1! Makes sense. --Brad Brad Topol, Ph.D. IBM Distinguished Engineer OpenStack (919) 543-0646 Internet: bto...@us.ibm.com Assistant: Kendra Witherspoon (919) 254-0680 From: Morgan Fainberg To: Adam Young , "OpenStack Development Mailing List (no

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] HA issues

2014-12-09 Thread Duncan Thomas
There are some significant limitations to the pure taskflow approach, however some combination of atomic micro-state management and taskflow persistence is being looked at Duncan Thomas On Dec 9, 2014 6:24 PM, "Dulko, Michal" wrote: > And what about no recovery in case of failure mid-task? I can

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014, Sean Dague wrote: > This check should run on any version of python and give the same > results. It does not, because it queries python to know what's in stdlib > vs. not. Just to underscore that it's difficult to get right, I found out recently that hacking doesn't do a grea

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Matthew Treinish
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:15:34AM -0600, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > - [H305 H306 H307] Organize your imports according to the `Import order > > template`_ and `Real-world Import Order Examples`_ below. > > > > I think these remain reasonable guid

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core/Vendor code decomposition

2014-12-09 Thread Salvatore Orlando
I would like to chime into this discussion wearing my plugin developer hat. We (the VMware team) have looked very carefully at the current proposal for splitting off drivers and plugins from the main source code tree. Therefore the concerns you've heard from Gary are not just ramblings but are the

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014, Sean Dague wrote: > I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. > > 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it > functions on git commit message, which makes it tough to run locally. It > also would be a reason to prev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] question about "Get Guest Info" row in HypervisorSupportMatrix

2014-12-09 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:33:47PM +0300, Dmitry Guryanov wrote: > Hello! > > There is a feature in HypervisorSupportMatrix > (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix) called "Get Guest > Info". Does anybody know, what does it mean? I haven't found anything like > this neither i

Re: [openstack-dev] [Third-party] Voting for new Third-party CI weekly IRC meeting time

2014-12-09 Thread Anita Kuno
On 12/09/2014 08:32 AM, Kurt Taylor wrote: > All of the feedback so far has supported moving the existing IRC > Third-party CI meeting to better fit a worldwide audience. > > The consensus is that we will have only 1 meeting per week at alternating > times. You can see examples of other teams with

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2014 11:41 AM, Johannes Erdfelt wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014, Sean Dague wrote: >> I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. >> >> 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on python code, it >> functions on git commit message, which makes it toug

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2014 11:28 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2014-12-09 07:29:31 -0800 (-0800), Monty Taylor wrote: >> I DO like something warning about commit subject length ... but maybe >> that should be a git-review function or something. > [...] > > How about a hook in Gerrit to refuse commits based on

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 10:05 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > Sure, the H8* group is git commit messages. It's checking for line > length in the commit message. I agree the H8* group should be dropped. It would be appropriate to create a new gate check job that validated that, but it should not be part

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone] OSAAA-Policy

2014-12-09 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On December 9, 2014 at 10:43:51 AM, Adam Young (ayo...@redhat.com) wrote: On 12/09/2014 10:57 AM, Brad Topol wrote: +1!  Makes sense. --Brad Brad Topol, Ph.D. IBM Distinguished Engineer OpenStack (919) 543-0646 Internet:  bto...@us.ibm.com Assistant: Kendra Witherspoon (919) 254-0680 From:  

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Deprecating exceptions

2014-12-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-12-09 16:50:48 +0100 (+0100), Jakub Ruzicka wrote: > On 22.9.2014 17:24, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: [...] > > Aren't clients supposed to be backwards compatible? Isn't it the exact > > reason why we don't maintain stable branches for client modules? > > Supposed, yes. However, it's not ensured

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2014 11:58 AM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 10:05 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: >> Sure, the H8* group is git commit messages. It's checking for line >> length in the commit message. > > I agree the H8* group should be dropped. It would be appropriate to > create a new gat

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-12-09 11:56:54 -0500 (-0500), Sean Dague wrote: > Honestly, any hard rejection ends up problematic. For instance, it > means it's impossible to include actual urls in commit messages to > reference things without a url shortener much of the time. Fair enough. I think this makes it a human

[openstack-dev] [Nova] question about "Get Guest Info" row in HypervisorSupportMatrix

2014-12-09 Thread Markus Zoeller
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:33:47PM +0300, Dmitry Guryanov wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > There is a feature in HypervisorSupportMatrix > > (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix) called "Get Guest > > Info". Does anybody know, what does it mean? I haven't found anything l

[openstack-dev] [oslo][Keystone] Policy graduation

2014-12-09 Thread Morgan Fainberg
I would like to propose that we keep the policy library under the oslo program. As with other graduated projects we will maintain a core team (that while including the oslo-core team) will be comprised of the expected individuals from the Identity and other security related teams. The change in

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 12:05 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > > I agree that dropping H302 and the grouping checks makes sense. I > think > > we should keep the H301, H303, H304, and the basic ordering checks, > > however; it doesn't seem to me that these would be that difficult to > > implement or maint

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][Keystone] Policy graduation

2014-12-09 Thread Adam Young
On 12/09/2014 12:18 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: I would like to propose that we keep the policy library under the oslo program. As with other graduated projects we will maintain a core team (that while including the oslo-core team) will be comprised of the expected individuals from the Identity

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core/Vendor code decomposition

2014-12-09 Thread Armando M.
On 9 December 2014 at 09:41, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > I would like to chime into this discussion wearing my plugin developer hat. > > We (the VMware team) have looked very carefully at the current proposal > for splitting off drivers and plugins from the main source code tree. > Therefore the c

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 12/09/2014 09:11 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> On Dec 9, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >>> I'd like to propose that for hacking 1.0 we drop 2 groups of rules entirely. >>> >>> 1 - the entire H8* group. This doesn't function on pyt

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Yuriy Zveryanskyy
Vladimir, IMO there is more "global" problem. Anyone who wants to use baremetal deploy service should resolve problems with power management, PXE/iPXE support, DHCP, etc. Or he/she can use Ironic. User has his own vision of deploy workflow and features needed for it. He hears from Ironic people:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Fox, Kevin M
We've been interested in Ironic as a replacement for Cobbler for some of our systems and have been kicking the tires a bit recently. While initially I thought this thread was probably another "Fuel not playing well with the community" kind of thing, I'm not thinking that any more. Its deeper th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core/Vendor code decomposition

2014-12-09 Thread Salvatore Orlando
On 9 December 2014 at 17:32, Armando M. wrote: > > > On 9 December 2014 at 09:41, Salvatore Orlando > wrote: > >> I would like to chime into this discussion wearing my plugin developer >> hat. >> >> We (the VMware team) have looked very carefully at the current proposal >> for splitting off driv

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Vladimir Kozhukalov
Kevin, Just to make sure everyone understands what Fuel Agent is about. Fuel Agent is agnostic to image format. There are 3 possibilities for image format 1) DISK IMAGE contains GPT/MBR table and all partitions and metadata in case of md or lvm. That is just something like what you get when run 'd

[openstack-dev] [Keystone] No Meeting Today

2014-12-09 Thread Morgan Fainberg
This is a quick note that the Keystone team will not be holding a meeting today. Based upon last week’s meeting the goals for today are to review open specs[1] and blocking code reviews for the k1 milestone[2] instead. We will continue with the normal meeting schedule next week. [1]  https://re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral]

2014-12-09 Thread Nikolay Makhotkin
Guys, May be I misunderstood something here but what is the difference between this one and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-execution-environment ? On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Dmitri Zimine wrote: > Winson, > > thanks for filing the blueprint: > https://blueprints.lau

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Code pointer for processing cinder backend config

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Perez
On 09:36 Sat 06 Dec , Pradip Mukhopadhyay wrote: > Where this config info is getting parsed out in the cinder code? https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/netapp/options.py https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/netapp/common.py#L76

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Tap-aaS Spec for Kilo

2014-12-09 Thread Anil Rao
Hi, The latest version of the Tap-aaS spec is available at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140292/ It was uploaded last night and we are hoping that it will be considered as a candidate for the Kilo release. Thanks, Anil ___ OpenStack-dev mailing l

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] out-of-tree plugin for Mech driver/L2 and vif_driver

2014-12-09 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:53:19AM +0100, Maxime Leroy wrote: >> I have also proposed a blueprint to have a new plugin mechanism in >> nova to load external vif driver. (nova-specs: >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136827/ and nova (rfc p

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Yuriy Zveryanskyy's message of 2014-12-09 04:05:03 -0800: > Good day Ironicers. > > I do not want to discuss questions like "Is feature X good for release > Y?" or "Is feature Z in Ironic scope or not?". > I want to get an answer for this: Is Ironic a flexible, easy extendable > an

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2014 12:20 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 12:05 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: >>> I agree that dropping H302 and the grouping checks makes sense. I >> think >>> we should keep the H301, H303, H304, and the basic ordering checks, >>> however; it doesn't seem to me that the

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2014 12:07 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2014-12-09 11:56:54 -0500 (-0500), Sean Dague wrote: >> Honestly, any hard rejection ends up problematic. For instance, it >> means it's impossible to include actual urls in commit messages to >> reference things without a url shortener much of the

[openstack-dev] [hacking] hacking package upgrade dependency with setuptools

2014-12-09 Thread Surojit Pathak
Hi all, On a RHEL system, as I upgrade hacking package from 0.8.0 to 0.9.5, I see flake8 stops working. Upgrading setuptools resolves the issue. But I do not see a change in version for pep8 or setuptools, with the upgrade in setuptools. Any issue in packaging? Any explanation of this behavi

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] mid-cycle "hot reviews"

2014-12-09 Thread Carl Baldwin
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Miguel Ángel Ajo wrote: > > Hi all! > > It would be great if you could use this thread to post hot reviews on > stuff > that it’s being worked out during the mid-cycle, where others from different > timezones could participate. I think we've used the etherpad [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] People of OpenStack (and their IRC nicks)

2014-12-09 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/09/2014 06:04 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > We already have a solution for tracking the contributor->IRC > mapping--add it to your Foundation Member Profile. For example, mine > is in there already: > > http://www.openstack.org/community/members/profile/5479 I recommend updating the opens

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][Keystone] Policy graduation

2014-12-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote: > I would like to propose that we keep the policy library under the oslo > program. As with other graduated projects we will maintain a core team (that > while including the oslo-core team) will be comprised of the expected > individuals fro

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-12-09 13:49:00 -0500 (-0500), Sean Dague wrote: [...] > And I also think that if a commit message change doesn't retrigger all > the tests, people will be a lot happier updating them. Agreed--though this will need a newer Gerrit plus a new feature in Zuul so it recognizes the difference in

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/09/2014 02:46 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2014-12-09 13:49:00 -0500 (-0500), Sean Dague wrote: > [...] >> And I also think that if a commit message change doesn't retrigger all >> the tests, people will be a lot happier updating them. > > Agreed--though this will need a newer Gerrit plus

[openstack-dev] [oslo] updated instructions for creating a library repository

2014-12-09 Thread Doug Hellmann
Now that the infra manual includes the “Project Creator’s Guide”, I have updated our wiki page to refer to it. I could use a sanity check to make sure I don’t have things in a bad order. If you have a few minutes to help with that, please look over https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/CreatingAN

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Fuel agent proposal

2014-12-09 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Thank you for explaining in detail what Fuel's use case is. I was lacking this information, and taking the FuelAgent proposal in isolation. Allow me to respond to several points inline... On Tue Dec 09 2014 at 4:08:45 AM Vladimir Kozhukalov < vkozhuka...@mirantis.com> wrote: > Just a short explan

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] question about "Get Guest Info" row in HypervisorSupportMatrix

2014-12-09 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:15:01PM +0100, Markus Zoeller wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:33:47PM +0300, Dmitry Guryanov wrote: > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > There is a feature in HypervisorSupportMatrix > > > (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix) called "Get > Guest

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Query on creating multiple resources

2014-12-09 Thread Zane Bitter
On 09/12/14 03:48, Renat Akhmerov wrote: Hey, I think it’s a question of what the final goal is. For just creating security groups as a resource I think Georgy and Zane are right, just use Heat. If the goal is to try Mistral or have this simple workflow as part of more complex then it’s total

Re: [openstack-dev] [hacking] proposed rules drop for 1.0

2014-12-09 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 13:46 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > Yes, the following fails H305 and H306. > > nova/tests/fixtures.py > > """Fixtures for Nova tests.""" > from __future__ import absolute_import > > import gettext > import logging > import os > import uuid > > import fixtures > from oslo.con

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