Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
I couldn't have remembered if my life depended on it. It was very good. Down here right now Wisers Canadian Whiskey is a fantastic buy, 10 years old, and the smoothest, slowest sipping variety I've had. Tom C. From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Sub

Re: Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread Ryan Lee
It's like it woke up during an operation because you didn't give it enough anaesthetic! Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss" Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: Don't need no stinkin lens.. > Shot wit

Re: Pentax Pro DSLR (WAS: RE: Spotted on another group ...)

2005-02-08 Thread Alan Chan
--- Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pentax have been making pro cameras from about 1968, regardless of what > definition > you choose for pro-level, so I cannot see why they should stop now. Pentax > have > labeled at least six different bodies as "pro-grade" since 1968 and they have > s

Re: Pentax Pro DSLR (WAS: RE: Spotted on another group ...)

2005-02-08 Thread Alan Chan
--- Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you write something, I always make a point of reading it. I don't > know what you mean by line-up, but to me (as an observer) the biggest > drawback that Pentax has at the moment as an option is that it does > not offer a complete system. E

Re: Pentax Pro DSLR (WAS: RE: Spotted on another group ...)

2005-02-08 Thread John Celio
To me this exudes lack of commitment. More likely a lack of budget. It is obvious to me that Pentax simply can't afford to put out everything that us enthusiasts would like to see. I think this is why they've pretty much dropped film cameras altogether: they know they have to focus on digital,

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: GFM correction N... I know you gave me some very nice wine you made. This was a bourbon or Scotch. You rationed it out. Ah yes. That was Basil Hayden's Kentucky Bourbon. b..

Re: Ramat Gan Business District from 49th floor

2005-02-08 Thread Ryan Lee
Nice thing about being that high is you don't really need a PC lens to get nice verticals. Would have been much better with a lower ISO- the details of the background isn't great. Good framing though. Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML

Edge Numbers on Kodak Film

2005-02-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Some of us on the list are scanning old negatives. Some old film only had numbers along the edges, and there's no reference to the name of the film as there is on newer emulsions. This site may be helpful. It references edge numbers to the film name and type. http://www.taphilo.com/photo/kodakf

Re: Saturday

2005-02-08 Thread Ryan Lee
Wonderful shot Juan. I like how in photographs like these, it seems that the subject has been captured a split second before they become camera conscious. Excellent work as usual, keep it up! Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Juan Buhler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday,

Re: PESO - Jet Trail

2005-02-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Ryan, Thanks for the comments and thanks for not hating me . -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, February 8, 2005, 9:24:31 PM, you wrote: RL> Excellent shot Bruce. Good combination of two subjects one wouldn't normally RL> put together. I love it! RL> Cheers, RL> Ryan RL> - Original

Re: Bargains (was Re: PESO - Snow - Not!)

2005-02-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Lookin' through that lens had the same effect on me. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bruce Dayton > Hello John, > > I won't go to loathe, but extremely jealous comes to mind. It was > your A* 200/2.8 that started it all for me back at Muir Woods.

Re: Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread Gonz
Ok, I missed the original set of posts. Whats going on here? Someone pulling someone else's leg? Very funny Bill. rg frank theriault wrote: On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:38:28 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shot with the Pentax 6x7, with no lens attached. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wro

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
N... I know you gave me some very nice wine you made. This was a bourbon or Scotch. You rationed it out. Tom C. From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: GFM correction Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:19:49 -0600 - Original Message - From

Re: PESO - Jet Trail

2005-02-08 Thread Ryan Lee
Excellent shot Bruce. Good combination of two subjects one wouldn't normally put together. I love it! Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: PESO - Jet Trail > Where I live (Sacramento, Californ

Re: PESO Country hotel

2005-02-08 Thread Ryan Lee
I agree with Bruce- the lighting makes this shot for me. Nice feel to the shot, and nice DOF too. Good frame Rob. Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: PESO Country hotel > Hi Team, > > Stil

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: GFM correction I don't mind looking stupid... it comes naturally. What was it? Mighta been wine. b...

Re: Bargains (was Re: PESO - Snow - Not!)

2005-02-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello John, I won't go to loathe, but extremely jealous comes to mind. It was your A* 200/2.8 that started it all for me back at Muir Woods. That is one sweet lens - not to mention that huge zoom. I think Peter should really loathe you. Bruce Tuesday, February 8, 2005, 8:40:18 PM, you wrote:

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
I don't mind looking stupid... it comes naturally. What was it? Tom C. From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: GFM correction Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:37:33 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: GFM correction William R

Bargains (was Re: PESO - Snow - Not!)

2005-02-08 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 11:02:08PM -0500, frank theriault wrote: > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:54:54 -0800, Bruce Dayton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now hate is a very strong word . Maybe we could go with loathe > > or something like that. > > > > Guess I shouldn't say that I picked up the K 200/2

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: GFM correction William Robb wrote: I hate beer. Ask Tom how many beers I drink in an average weekend. Umm, to my recollection it was two. BTW, what was that other stuff you gave me? Rohypnol. Did ya like it? WW

Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15

2005-02-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sue is the dinosaur's first name. It was named after the Indian Jones type who organized the dig that discovered it. It's a nice friendly name for a dinosaur, but you'd need an RPG if you ever met Sue in person...otherwise, you be lunch! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 21:50:13 -0500, frank

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread Gonz
I apologize Marnie for digging up dead old threads on you. :( I found the thread a fascinating read and your point of view was the most fascinating of all. It just took me a long time to get on the top of my to do list. Now its taken a whole life of its own again. Including an excursion into t

Re: PESO - Snow - Not!

2005-02-08 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 09:40:51PM -0500, frank theriault wrote: > On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:57:03 -0500, Peter J. Alling > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think I've told you, I hate you, before haven't I? > > Talent and that lens too. > > Oh, I believe we've both told him on more than one occasion

Re: PESO - Snow - Not!

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
Alright, so now I loath you even more... Bruce Dayton wrote: Now hate is a very strong word . Maybe we could go with loathe or something like that. Guess I shouldn't say that I picked up the K 200/2.5 from KEH in bargain condition for about $250. When it showed up I had to grab it quick. Bruce Tu

Re: Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
*Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -- *Benjamin Franklin (Though it's been quoted differently here in the past). frank theriault wrote: On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:21:55 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm srrry. Come here big fella and get a hug. Tom

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread John Francis
frank theriault mused: > > On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:29:31 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's a pretty good kid overall, just reaching > > that age where he *perceives* himself to be almost as smart as dear old dad. > > What was that Don Martin strip in the old Mad Magazines? I can't >

Re: PESO - Snow - Not!

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:54:54 -0800, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now hate is a very strong word . Maybe we could go with loathe > or something like that. > > Guess I shouldn't say that I picked up the K 200/2.5 from KEH in > bargain condition for about $250. When it showed up I had t

Re: PESO - Snow - Not!

2005-02-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Now hate is a very strong word . Maybe we could go with loathe or something like that. Guess I shouldn't say that I picked up the K 200/2.5 from KEH in bargain condition for about $250. When it showed up I had to grab it quick. Bruce Tuesday, February 8, 2005, 6:40:51 PM, you wrote: ft> On T

Re: Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:21:55 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm srrry. Come here big fella and get a hug. > > Tom C. Hugs won't do it. I'm not one of these SNAGs (Sensitive New Age Guys). Beer is a good start, however. You should come down to GFM and give me beer. If you do

Re: First PESO

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:00:55 -0700, Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3342/display/2543597 > > Comments welcome, of course. > > Thanks to whichever list member made me aware of fotocommunity. > > Joe > I'm still catching up on some of the weeken

Re: Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
I'm srrry. Come here big fella and get a hug. Tom C. Until I read Tom's snide post, I was going to comment that bokeh is so important to Pentax, that even their bodies do it well. But now I think I'll just go in a corner and sulk. -frank, taking his toys and going home now.

Re: Sorta OT: Link to possible photo op's near home

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:26:04 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "cbwaters" > > Jeez Dave, > > Judging by the number of towns listed, there just may be more > > ghosts in Ontario than LIVING people... > > > > Must not say it.. > WW > G

Re: My First GESO: Fun with a Fisheye-Takumar 18mm f11

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 00:27:00 -0800, John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I mentioned earlier today, I've got a handfull of photos taken with the > Fisheye-Takumar 18mm F11. > > The first eight photos were shot with my MX and a roll of Tri-X 400. They > were scanned with my Minolta Dimage Sca

Re: With Another Couple of PESOs...

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 00:09:33 -0500, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very, nice the shot in the air is spectacular, but the one on the ground > has "personality". > > Well put, Peter! Both are wonderful photos. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Br

Re: Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:38:28 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shot with the Pentax 6x7, with no lens attached. > > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/nolens.html > > The floating head at the top is my friend Kim, who owns the studio I > work out of when I need a studio, the fell

Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
I suppose if you win the suite you'll collect quite a large nest egg... frank theriault wrote: On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:41:56 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I got some rather nice shots when using your 15mm when we saw the "Sue the Dinosaur" exhibit "Sue the Dinosaur". Is tha

Re: Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 19:34:02 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank could have saved some money in the long run. Hey! I'm right here! I can hear every word you're saying, you know. Sheesh... -frank (you could at least whisper, and ~pretend~ not to insult me) -- "Sharpness is a bo

Re: SMA Pentax 1:3.5/15

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 10:41:56 -0800, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got some rather nice shots when using your 15mm when we saw the "Sue the > Dinosaur" exhibit "Sue the Dinosaur". Is that a sentence or a phrase? Or to put it another way, is "Sue" a verb (as in what lawyers do?) or

Re: PESO - Snow - Not!

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:57:03 -0500, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I've told you, I hate you, before haven't I? > Talent and that lens too. Oh, I believe we've both told him on more than one occasion. I like this new concept, though. Hating the photographer ~and~ their gear

Re: Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
Frank could have saved some money in the long run. Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: William Robb Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin lens.. Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:10:36 -0800 Very cool! I knew the 67 was a great body, but not even needi

Re: Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very cool! I knew the 67 was a great body, but not even needing a lens...go figure. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, February 8, 2005, 5:38:28 PM, you wrote: WR> Shot with the Pentax 6x7, with no lens attached. WR> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/nolens.html WR> The floating head at th

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
William Robb wrote: I hate beer. Ask Tom how many beers I drink in an average weekend. Umm, to my recollection it was two. BTW, what was that other stuff you gave me? Tom C.

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread pnstenquist
I'm thinking of coming, although I'm not going to register. If I do show, I'll bring a large supply of rotgut whiskey for the serious drinkers. Paul > > - Original Message - > From: "Peter J. Alling" > Subject: Re: GFM correction > > > > Now you've done it Robb is gonna show up! > >

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: Re: GFM correction Now you've done it Robb is gonna show up! I hate beer. Ask Tom how many beers I drink in an average weekend. William Robb

Re: PESO - Snow - Not!

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
I think I've told you, I hate you, before haven't I? Talent and that lens too. Bruce Dayton wrote: This is the other shot I took last night along with "Jet Trail" that I liked - slightly different than the previous PESO. Pentax *istD, K 200/2.5, HandHeld, ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f4 http://www.dayton

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? Purely medicinal... BTW, was I drooling too? b...

Re: PESO Country hotel

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
Very nice shot. Rob Studdert wrote: Hi Team, Still busy lately however I've another PESO shot last weekend at the end of a 2.5hr journey: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0489.jpg (~170kB) Tech: *ist D, ISO800, 1/60s, Prog, Multi-seg metering, 77LTD @ f2.5, hand held All comments and

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
Now you've done it Robb is gonna show up! William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: GFM correction If me, you and Brooksie are left alone at PDML Central during the seminars, there ain't gonna be no beer left when the others get back! There's beer W

Don't need no stinkin lens..........

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
Shot with the Pentax 6x7, with no lens attached. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/nolens.html The floating head at the top is my friend Kim, who owns the studio I work out of when I need a studio, the fellow on the bottom is Todd, who was having trouble getting his head around a peice of fil

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread Bill Owens
If me, you and Brooksie are left alone at PDML Central during the seminars, there ain't gonna be no beer left when the others get back! There's beer William Robb Is the Pope a Catholic? Bill

Re: PESO Country hotel

2005-02-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
I never saw the original post of this. Glad you wrote something Frank. The lighting is what really makes this for me. It's not blown out through the curtains and is just the right level her face. It has a very snap shot look to it, but yet, the image is much, much better technically than that.

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
Purely medicinal... Tom C. From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:16:44 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? What? I don't have any re

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:16:44 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom C" > Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? > > > What? I don't have any recollection. > > > > I can well believe that... > b... > I think you guys should take your s

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:15:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OH sure, knarF finds out I'm going to enter the competition and he can't > stand the heat! > If it makes you feel better to think that, Kenneth, that's fine. You can just remain in your little fantasy-wo

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: GFM correction If me, you and Brooksie are left alone at PDML Central during the seminars, there ain't gonna be no beer left when the others get back! There's beer William Robb

Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New LX Owner I've found the LX autoexposure extremely accurate. Of course in situations that aren't neutral, exposure compensation must be applied. That's true of any exposure system. I've found it to be either very accurate,

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:17:46 -0800, Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't worry Frank, you can hang out with me and photograph rare beer > bottles from all around the globe during the classes. > Norm > Norm, If me, you and Brooksie are left alone at PDML Central during the seminars,

Re: PESO Country hotel

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:07:31 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Team, > > Still busy lately however I've another PESO shot last weekend at the end of a > 2.5hr journey: > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0489.jpg (~170kB) > > Tech: *ist D, ISO800, 1/60s, Prog, M

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread Norman Baugher
Don't worry Frank, you can hang out with me and photograph rare beer bottles from all around the globe during the classes. Norm frank theriault wrote: Well, that's it for me, then. I'll be a socializing spectator then. I won't be able to get my reservation in until next pay, and it looks like b

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? What? I don't have any recollection. I can well believe that... b...

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
OH sure, knarF finds out I'm going to enter the competition and he can't stand the heat! Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 8, 2005 8:08 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GFM correction On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:53:02 -0500, Bil

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
What? I don't have any recollection. Tom C. From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:18:59 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? Yeah... we

Re: PAW: Enter?

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 20:03:06 -0500, Peter J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why be sorry... Because I'm Canadian. Apologizing is what we do... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? Yeah... well during the Super Bowl party at a neighbor's house, my 13-year old son decided to pull the chair out from under me when I returned from refeshing my wine glass. I consequently sat on the floor dri

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 01:05:51 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This thread reminds me of a junior college philosophy class. Hell, it's not nearly up to ~that~ level! -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:53:02 -0500, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As of today, Feb 8, 161 of 165 seats are sold. > > Bill > Well, that's it for me, then. I'll be a socializing spectator then. I won't be able to get my reservation in until next pay, and it looks like by then all the se

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread pnstenquist
This thread reminds me of a junior college philosophy class. > Hey Marnie... I was just yanking your chain... that's why there was a > smiley. > > I still don't believe ALL truths are subjective however... > > Tom C. > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > >T

Re: GFM is quickly selling out

2005-02-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
Aw Frank, you were supposed to keep it quiet. Now I'll have to kill you or at least buy you a beer. Can't wait. Kenneth Waler -Original Message- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 8, 2005 7:45 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GFM is quickly selling out On T

Re: Which 80-200?

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
The F 80-200 is supposed to be built better than the FA. If you can get either new then I'd go for the F. Larry Levy wrote: I've got a chance to buy either a new FA 80-200 4.7-5.6 or a new F 80-200 4.7-5.6 lens for $100. Other than the obvious color and feel, which should I consider and why?

Re: PESO - Snow - Not!

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:01:18 -0800, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the other shot I took last night along with "Jet Trail" that I > liked - slightly different than the previous PESO. > > Pentax *istD, K 200/2.5, HandHeld, ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f4 > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PA

Re: PESO: Fisheye Contacts

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:31:43 +1300, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 5, 2005, at 3:20 AM, frank theriault wrote: > > > "Out-of-focus" is a "problem"? > > You missed the context... I meant that not being out of focus is the > problem (ie being drunk affects your vision). Dave, I did

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
Hey Marnie... I was just yanking your chain... that's why there was a smiley. I still don't believe ALL truths are subjective however... Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:

Re: PESO - Swim Meet

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:47:48 -0500, Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like to shoot landscapes, bugs, and birds - but hey, the occasional > bi-pedal amphibious hominid is also fair game! > > http://www.markcassino.com/temp/IMGP7042.jpg > > Shot with the *ist-D and Sigma 70-200. It's not

RE: [pdml] Re: OT:If Costco has it on sale it's really dead: was [Film is dead]

2005-02-08 Thread David Chang-Sang
I wouldn't put a nail in film's coffin.. but that particular scanner needs to be put 6ft under from all the reviews I've seen .. Dave > -Original Message- > From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:39 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject:

GFM correction

2005-02-08 Thread Bill Owens
As of today, Feb 8, 161 of 165 seats are sold. Bill

Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:38:42 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've found the LX autoexposure extremely accurate. Of course in situations > that aren't neutral, exposure compensation must be applied. That's true of > any exposure system. > Paul Maybe it's my sample, then. I'

Re: GFM is quickly selling out

2005-02-08 Thread Bill Owens
As of yesterday, Feb 07, 158 of 165 seats are sold. Bill - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:45 PM Subject: Re: GFM is quickly selling out On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:37:54 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PAW: Enter?

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
frank theriault wrote: On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:21:55 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's a damn PC :-P Sorry :-( -frank Why be sorry... -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners

Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
Sounds like you have a sticky aperture on your lens. My 35mm has developed this problem. All the other lenses seem to be working fine. You should try a different lens on the camera. Nick Clark wrote: Yep! You've got me sussed! I put a roll of XP2 through it yesterday. I discovered why the aut

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/8/2005 2:54:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > Subject: Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed? > >> 7.) I don't debate (at least anymore and at least not on the Net). >> I've been >> involved in too many k

Re: Copyrighting Public Space?

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
It's funny, but last year I went to a museum where they wanted me to check my "tripod", as they weren't allowed in. I pointed out it was a monopod and they let me take it in. (I don't think they knew what a monopod was). Cotty wrote: On 8/2/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW many

Re: GFM is quickly selling out

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:37:54 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to Catherine, on 2/4 - > I'm in - along with my brother in law (Cannon) and my wife, ex sherpa (as > guest). > > Kenneth Waller Waller finds out I may not be competing in the Nature Photography C

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:29:31 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: He's a pretty good kid overall, just reaching > that age where he *perceives* himself to be almost as smart as dear old dad. What was that Don Martin strip in the old Mad Magazines? I can't remember it's name, but I do remember

Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-08 Thread pnstenquist
I've found the LX autoexposure extremely accurate. Of course in situations that aren't neutral, exposure compensation must be applied. That's true of any exposure system. Paul > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 23:20:31 -, Nick Clark > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep! You've got me sussed! I put a rol

Re: GFM is quickly selling out

2005-02-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
According to Catherine, on 2/4 - I'm in - along with my brother in law (Cannon) and my wife, ex sherpa (as guest). Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 8, 2005 6:31 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GFM is quickly selling out

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/8/2005 3:21:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, but if you steadfastly hold to the viewpoint that nothing is real, what is there to debate? :) Sorry Marnie, being a smart***. Tom C. = Another thing I never said. I said that believe all TRUT

Re: PESO: Saturday

2005-02-08 Thread Juan Buhler
Hi Bruce, Thanks for the comments (thanks all, btw) No, I don't use AF. Just manual, and try to focus on the viewfinder, sometimes trusting the focus indication LEDs. The FA35/2 was already one of my favorite lenses, even though 50mm is my preferred FL. With the istD it becomes about a 52.5mm, s

Re: PESO - Falls

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
Sorry Frank, it's just you... frank theriault wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 10:53:14 -0800, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I took my daughter, Erin, out shooting Saturday afternoon. We went somewhere that neither of us had been before. Quite a pretty area and we had a good time. I'll try

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
Funny... I think he was equally embarrassed by the result. He knew he had gone too far. Not wanting to experience angst like that again, I doubt he'll repeat *that* trick. He's a pretty good kid overall, just reaching that age where he *perceives* himself to be almost as smart as dear old da

Re: PESO: Pentax girl

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:27:05 -0800, Rolling Red <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > No I don't know Panama Red, but now that you tipped me off, I'll give > his work a listen. Rolling Red as in Rolling Redknuckles...thanks for > demystifying my alias ;) > I didn't mean to blow your cover. I ha

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-08 Thread Herb Chong
the L teleconverters work on a very limited number of lenses. the 2X-L protrudes almost an inch in front of the mount and the 1.4X-L a little more. my tests on the Sigma AF converts show them to be very good. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "jta

Re: OT:If Costco has it on sale it's really dead: was [Film is dead]

2005-02-08 Thread Peter J. Alling
Nuff said... Daniel J. Matyola wrote: But Costco is running a special on film and slide scanners: http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=10039838&whse=&topnav=&cat=&s=1 -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buil

Re: New LX Owner

2005-02-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 8 Feb 2005 at 23:20, Nick Clark wrote: > Great feel to it, but I might look out for a grip, or perhaps make one if I > can > find a screw of the right guage. I'll need to find some strap lugs too. I used to carry around my LX all day using just my fingers tucked under the grip, it's pretty g

Re: teleconverters

2005-02-08 Thread Herb Chong
it also fits very few lenses. i have one where it fits properly, the A* 400/2.8, and one where it fits if you use it carefully, the FA* 400/5.6. the latter isn't on the supported list, and i see why. Herb... - Original Message - From: "jtainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, F

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 17:03:55 -0700, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah... well during the Super Bowl party at a neighbor's house, my 13-year > old son decided to pull the chair out from under me when I returned from > refeshing my wine glass. I consequently sat on the floor dribbling my w

Re: Pentax Pro DSLR (WAS: RE: Spotted on another group ...)

2005-02-08 Thread Herb Chong
i reread the NIKKEI release and a couple of others. Nov-Jan sales of the D70 was about 300K units. this is about the same as Canon's Digital Rebel sales. the two of them dominate the DSLR sales. Pentax is a distant third, but i don't know how far behind. the *istDS introduction made that possibl

Re: PAW: Enter?

2005-02-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
knarF, the only problem I have with it photographically is the blown out screen. It's amazing how much oof exists between the in focus screen and the viewer. As far as a non hoovering title - how about "Frankie likes it" Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PR

Re: Copyrighting Public Space?

2005-02-08 Thread Graywolf
What about them? Tell them it is a walking stick and you just happen to be resting your camera on it. Actually, I no of no laws that specifically mention monopods. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Cotty wrote: On 8/2/05,

PESO Country hotel

2005-02-08 Thread Rob Studdert
Hi Team, Still busy lately however I've another PESO shot last weekend at the end of a 2.5hr journey: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0489.jpg (~170kB) Tech: *ist D, ISO800, 1/60s, Prog, Multi-seg metering, 77LTD @ f2.5, hand held All comments and questions welcome. Cheers, R

Re: Dogmatism: what is allowed?

2005-02-08 Thread Tom C
Frank wrote: BTW, WRT to all this "is reality really real?" discussion, I remember reading somewhere (but I'll be damned if I can remember ~where~) that for all his talk about being and nothingness, when Heidegger walked in a room and saw a chair, he knew damned well that the chair really was ~ther

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