On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:17:03 -0500, you wrote:
yes, remember the claims of 'extended dynamic range' ??
now, producers and 'artists' want every bit to be a '1'
look at a current 'hit' with Adobe Audition
it has all the 'dynamic range' of a concrete block
Gary
Everything has been
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buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Gleichweit
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:26 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:17:03 -0500, you wrote:
yes, remember the claims of 'extended dynamic
I'm getting ready to send my Teac 7010GSL back for refurbishing.
I *STILL* love the sound of 10 1/2 NAB open reel tape... and I *ALWAYS*
bought Maxell tape. ;-)
Mark - N9WYS
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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Chris Curtis
Eyeing my collection of
At 11:26 PM 04/08/09, you wrote:
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:17:03 -0500, you wrote:
yes, remember the claims of 'extended dynamic range' ??
now, producers and 'artists' want every bit to be a '1'
look at a current 'hit' with Adobe Audition
it has all the 'dynamic range' of a concrete block
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:44:55 -0700, Mike Morris WA6ILQ
BTW, how many folks know that the 1812 Overture (full
title: Festival Overture The Year 1812 in E flat major,
Opus 49) is about France invading Russia during the
Napoleonic Wars? Despite being a staple at July 4th
events it has nothing
At 4/9/2009 01:44, you wrote:
At 11:26 PM 04/08/09, you wrote:
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:17:03 -0500, you wrote:
yes, remember the claims of 'extended dynamic range' ??
now, producers and 'artists' want every bit to be a '1'
look at a current 'hit' with Adobe Audition
it has all
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) APCO P25 horror stories anyone?
Have you read the engineering reports?
I used one of the radios and wasn't very impressed (actually I was quite
disappointed). And I was a cheerleader
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From: Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:02 PM
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Have you read the engineering reports?
I used one of the radios and wasn't
men...@pa.net
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Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) APCO P25 horror stories anyone?
Chuck, your experience parallels what many users in Pennsylvania have
experienced. The only difference here is that the state continues
on outside engineering reports and a few, direct, personal
experiences. We'll see what the courts say about it.
Chuck
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, direct, personal
experiences. We'll see what the courts say about it.
Chuck
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From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:24 AM
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The problem
If it's either there or its not is supposedly a problem, you'll never see
that go away in digital comms.
You can bit-stuff FEC codes by the metric truckload into a signal all day
long, but at some point, it just falls out. That's digital. Period.
Anyone surprised by this must not be paying
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:25 PM
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If it's either there or its not is supposedly a problem, you'll never see
that go away
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[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jacob Suter
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 3:47 PM
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I agree entirely on the RF part of your article
Chuck Kelsey wrote:
The digital horror stories don't seem to be vendor-related either -- plenty
of bad press on both Motorola and Tyco (MA-Com - was GE once upon a time).
My state is a good example of a digital horror story. $3 billion statewide
contract with Tyco cancelled for a system
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And M/A-Com is suing the state because they DID meet the original
specs/requirements, and the state
Gary Glaenzer wrote:
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From: wd8chl
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Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:12 AM
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And M/A-Com is suing the state because they DID meet the original
specs
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Gary Glaenzer wrote:
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From: wd8chl
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) APCO P25 horror stories anyone
Have you read the engineering reports?
I used one of the radios and wasn't very impressed (actually I was quite
disappointed). And I was a cheerleader for the system up until then.
Chuck
And M/A-Com is suing the state because they DID meet the original
specs/requirements, and the state is
Only if it bears the Rod Blagojevich Seal of Approval (AKA: campaign
donation)
;-p
Mark - N9WYS
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must be Illinois...
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From: wd8chl
And M/A-Com is suing the state
Hello Group,
As P25 is being rolled out worldwide, I have been hearing many stories
regarding P25 shortcomings...Such as Vocoder problems in high noise situations,
Jitter and Multipath issues from users that have converted from their
legacy Analog systems, etc . The repeater issues (If any)
, April 6, 2009 5:58:02 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) APCO P25 horror stories anyone?
Hello Group,
As P25 is being rolled out worldwide, I have
been hearing many stories regarding P25 shortcomings. ..Such as Vocoder
problems in high noise situations, Jitter and Multipath issues from users
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Carruba
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:30 AM
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Fire Departments in my local area are displeased with the digital systems
I have read reports where
With new systems, there are usually horror stories.
Our county is essentially an ancient lake bottom and
is very flat. We will be adding a 5th and possibly
a 6th tower to support areas of poor coverage. I
consider this a flaw in the original system design
for this area. There have also been
a...@comcast.net
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:44 AM
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With new systems, there are usually horror stories.
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From: Gareth Bennett (Ihug)
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 5:58 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) APCO P25 horror stories anyone?
Hello Group,
As P25 is being rolled out worldwide, I have been hearing many stories
regarding P25
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Chuck Kelsey wrote:
My state is a good example of a digital horror story. $3 billion
statewide contract with Tyco cancelled for a system that didn't meet
State specifications. Two counties built out as a test (my county one
of them) 20 sites for my county alone.
It's
Gareth,
My state transitioned to a state-wide 700/800 MHz Motorola P25 system about
2 years ago, to replace their VHF High band / VHF Low Band system. So far,
there have been a number of both complaints and accolades about the system -
and it appears that what you hear depends upon whom you
Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Chuck Kelsey wrote:
My state is a good example of a digital horror story. $3 billion
statewide contract with Tyco cancelled for a system that didn't meet
State specifications. Two counties built out as a test (my county one
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From: mwbese...@cox.net
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Cc: Kris Kirby
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (OT) APCO P25 horror stories anyone?
I've gotta concur with that comment! I was at a 'well known' ham radio store
Saturday
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:09 PM
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Somehow, at some point, possibly about the time the compact disc was
introduced, the world started defining audio quality solely as
signal-to-noise ratio.
Anyone with a new mobile device
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From: Paul Plack
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:09 PM
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Somehow, at some point, possibly about the time the compact disc was
introduced
not to worry
it's 'DIGITAL' and that cures all ills.
G
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From: AJ
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:23 PM
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It's amazing when talking
You mean like a digital rectal exam LOL!
Chuck
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From: Gary Glaenzer
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 2:29 PM
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not to worry
it's 'DIGITAL
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