Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-30 Thread Matt Kettler
Justin Mason wrote: > > Matt, any chance you could open a bz feature request for this? > Done.. also added to it so there's now 3 warning level options. http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5710 > --j. >

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-30 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Kettler writes: > Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > > Justin Mason wrote: > >> OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every > >> week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their > >> server, and most of the time the answer is "stop using blacklist.cf

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-28 Thread mouss
Matt Kettler wrote: > Daniel J McDonald wrote: > >> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: >> >> >>> Justin Mason wrote: >>> >>> What else can we do? >>> Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-28 Thread Matt Kettler
jdow wrote: > From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, 2007, October 26 20:19 > >> I dono, I think that having some --lint warnings generated when the >> overall config is really absurdly large seems useful for this kind of >> problem in general. A basic "um, dude, that's a lot of c

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-27 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, 2007, October 26 20:19 Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Justin Mason wrote: OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their server, and most of the tim

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > > But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing > > > instead. > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: > > Why not make it a configurable option in local.cf defaulting to > > die. That way for those of us who create custom .cf files that > > have the system resources

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Loren Wilton
Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is read unless a config option is set to silence it? Simple solution, assuming someone has control of the machine with blacklist.cf on it: Replace it with a single blank line. No complaints about "SA stopped working!". Just

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Matt Kettler
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > Justin Mason wrote: >> OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every >> week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their >> server, and most of the time the answer is "stop using blacklist.cf and >> blacklist-uri.cf". If 1

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Justin Mason wrote: OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their server, and most of the time the answer is "stop using blacklist.cf and blacklist-uri.cf". If 1 person is asking the question, chances

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread James Lay
On 10/26/07 6:59 PM, "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel J McDonald wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: >> >>> Justin Mason wrote: >>> What else can we do? >>> Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file ov

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Matt Kettler
Daniel J McDonald wrote: > On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > >> Justin Mason wrote: >> >>> What else can we do? >>> >>> >> Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is read >> unless a config option is set to silence it? >> > > Bu

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread John D. Hardin
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Nigel Frankcom wrote: > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:43:37 -0700 (PPT), "John D. Hardin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: > > > >> > But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing > >> > instead. > >> > >> Why not mak

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:43:37 -0700 (PPT), "John D. Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: > >> > But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing >> > instead. >> >> Why not make it a configurable option in local.cf defaulting to >> die. T

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread SM
At 04:52 26-10-2007, Justin Mason wrote: What else can we do? Add a warning at startup if a sample message takes more than X seconds to be scanned. Whether people will actually read that warning is another question. Regards, -sm

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Duane Hill
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:43:37 -0700 (PPT) "John D. Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> confabulated: > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: > > > > But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest > > > die-ing instead. > > > > Why not make it a configurable option in local.cf defaulting

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread John D. Hardin
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Duane Hill wrote: > > But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest die-ing > > instead. > > Why not make it a configurable option in local.cf defaulting to > die. That way for those of us who create custom .cf files that > have the system resources can do so

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Duane Hill
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:35:13 -0500 Daniel J McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> confabulated: > On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > > Justin Mason wrote: > > > > > > What else can we do? > > > > > Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is > > read unless

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Kettler writes: > Justin Mason wrote: > > OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every > > week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their > > server, and most of the time the answer is "stop using blacklist.cf and > > blacklist-uri.cf". If 1

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:16 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: > Justin Mason wrote: > > > > What else can we do? > > > Add code to generate a lint warning any time a .cf file over 1mb is read > unless a config option is set to silence it? But people don't read logs, or they would know... I'd suggest

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Justin Mason wrote: > > OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every > > week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their > > server, and most of the time the answer is "stop using blacklist.cf and > > blac

Re: blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Matt Kettler
Justin Mason wrote: > OK, we really need to figure out some way to kill these FAQs off. Every > week, someone asks a question about why SpamAssassin is killing their > server, and most of the time the answer is "stop using blacklist.cf and > blacklist-uri.cf". If 1 person is asking the question, c

blacklist.cf needs to die (was Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...)

2007-10-26 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Kettler writes: > > I also use RulesDuJour daily to get updated cf files. > > > From your debug output: > > [18696] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist-uri.cf > [18696] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist.cf > > Ditch blacklist and blacklist-uri. The

Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [18696] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist-uri.cf > [18696] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/blacklist.cf > > Ditch blacklist and blacklist-uri. These two are well known ways to > kill spamassassin on all but the absolu

Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Matt Kettler
Joey wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I am currently running SA 3.2.3 compiled from cpan. > > I have a situation where CPU is just going through the roof on just a > few messages and I really can’t tell what part of SA is the slow down. > > > > I’m not that familiar with all the config stuff, so I

Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 09:23 -0400, Joey wrote: > I have a situation where CPU is just going through the roof on just a > few messages and I really can’t tell what part of SA is the slow down. Since this happens for a few messages only, I would start by checking if these messages got something in

RE: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Randal, Phil
First off, Do an sa-update -D as soon as possible. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK From: Joey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 October 2007 14:24 To: users@spamassassin.

RE: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Joey
From: Pedro Correia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:35 AM To: 'Joey' Subject: RE: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter... Are you running SA on the same box as the mail server? I transfered my SA instalation to a dedicat

Re: Help figuring our why SA is taking like 1.5 minutes to filter...

2007-10-25 Thread Jeff Chan
Quoting Joey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am currently running SA 3.2.3 compiled from cpan. > > I have a situation where CPU is just going through the roof on just a few > messages and I really can't tell what part of SA is the slow down. [...] > Here is a list of files in each of my SA folders as wel