Re: NEED HELP
Running MSC on the dB fixed it. Thanks On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 5:58 PM Chuck Miller < cjmil...@informed-solutions.com> wrote: > Dis you change OS versions > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 23, 2020, at 7:43 PM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > No, I didn't. So will try that. Thanks > > > >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 3:37 PM Randy Kaempen > >> wrote: > >> > >> Tom, > >> > >>> On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech < > >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I am not sure if this is the right forum but I need help on a problem > >>> that's just cropped up. > >>> > >>> I have been successfully building stand alone apps using V13.3 for > years > >>> now and suddenly each time I try to "Build the app" it starts coping > over > >>> file but just before it finishes 4d crashes. I have tried everything to > >> get > >>> it to work. > >>> > >>> Anybody have any ideas as to what causing this? > >> > >> To ask the obvious questions: > >> > >> Did you run the MSC on the structure to make sure there’s no damage? > >> > >> Did you try replacing the 4D Volume Desktop with a fresh copy? > >> > >> > >> Randy Kaempen > >> Intellex Corporation > >> > > ** > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > ** > > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
NEED HELP
I am not sure if this is the right forum but I need help on a problem that's just cropped up. I have been successfully building stand alone apps using V13.3 for years now and suddenly each time I try to "Build the app" it starts coping over file but just before it finishes 4d crashes. I have tried everything to get it to work. Anybody have any ideas as to what causing this? Thanks, Tom Dillon ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Graphs broken in V17
I just upgraded my DB from v13 to v17 and all my graphs (which I have about 25) are broken. All I get is a while space where the graph was in the form. The basic issues is in this tech note: *Compatibility note: Beginning with 4D v14, the** GRAPH command only works with a picture variable as its first parameter. The obsolete syntax using a graph area (4D Chart) is no longer supported.* OK, but I am struggling with what this really means. Just redefining the GRAPH NAME as a picture variable (C_PICTURE) and changing the graph in the form to be a picture does nothing. I still get a blank graph. So I am stumped as to what I need to do get graphs working again. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: 4D v17.3 crashes on macOS 10.15 Catalina
Peter-Christian Miest posted: > on one Mac we are able to successfully run 4D v17.3 under macOS 10.15. > On another Mac with macOS 10.15 4D 17.3 crashes on start. We used the same > full installer from 4D website on both machines. I've had no problem with 17.3 on my MacBook Pro running Catalina. However, a client running single user just upgraded to Catalina and 4D crashes after warning that the windows won't open in their previous positions. Even just launching 4D, without a structure, crashes. Have any of you seen this or have an idea of what may happening? Tom Dillon ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: v13+ - support for OpenType &/or TrueType fonts - Windows
Chip, >I am trying to get as close as possible to a cross (multi) platform >appearance as possible, and I have found an Opentype font I like. I can't speak directly to your question about the font your looking at, but I've found that Trebuchet MS works well cross platform. -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- The faster you run before slamming into the wall, the more fun you'll have on the way and the better looking the nurse will be when you wake up. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: SET PRINT OPTION Fails on a New Macbook Air
Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech wrote: >Not sure if you're on 32-bit or 64-bit, but printing on 64-bit is >fussier -- it wants to have paper sizes assigned with SET PRINT OPTION >that match exactly the printer you're printing to, otherwise it sets OK >to zero and it won't print. The workaround I found, since different >drivers have wildly different paper sizes, is to use the variation of >the command that specifies a print area in pixels instead of a named >paper size. 64 bit. I'll add that to the mix. Thanks. -- ---------- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Wine is always best when shared, even if it's just with yourself. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: SET PRINT OPTION Fails on a New Macbook Air
I'll give that a shot. I print the file with no extension then rename it afterwards. Thanks! -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Maybe we only think we have consciousness. --- Sunastar -- Milan Adamov via 4D_Tech wrote: >On May 17, 2019, at 19:58, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >wrote: >> >> 4D 17.1 >> >> SET PRINT OPTION(Destination option;3;$DocPath) // PDF >> >> $DocPath is validated >> >> Prints to a PDF on my iMac (10.13.6). On a client's Macbook Air >(10.14.4) it creates no document and ends up printing on the default printer. >> >> Any ideas on why this computer wants to make me sad? >> > >Tom, > >if I remember correctly from one TAOW case I handled few years ago, this >could happen if your $DocPath doesn't end with .pdf extension. > >Milan ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
SET PRINT OPTION Fails on a New Macbook Air
4D 17.1 SET PRINT OPTION(Destination option;3;$DocPath) // PDF $DocPath is validated Prints to a PDF on my iMac (10.13.6). On a client's Macbook Air (10.14.4) it creates no document and ends up printing on the default printer. Any ideas on why this computer wants to make me sad? BTW, the DB folder is at the hard drive level. There is a PDF Invoices folder in the same folder as the DB. Thanks Y'all! -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- To a programmer, Friday just means there are only two working days until Monday. -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Sending mail in 4D v11 on Mac
Bruno LEGAY via 4D_Tech wrote: >There is no way port 587 will work with older versions of 4D. Is it possible to pass the port with a ":587" added to the host? -- ------ Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Sometimes the only choice is to shoot oneself in the other foot. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Printing structures
John J Foster via 4D_Tech wrote: >So that's why I have some tables that the size of Canada! It's in Mercator projection mode. -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- The evolution of the brain not only overshot the needs of prehistoric man, it is the only example of evolution providing a species with an organ which it does not know how to use. - Arthur Koestler - British columnist -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Printing Structure Diagram (Somewhat O.T.).
Charles Miller via 4D_Tech wrote: >you need to find someone who needs a boat anchor I use my nubby box as a door stop. Very useful. -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Never apologize for a joke that nobody realized was dirty. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Doris Beaulieu 31 Year Anniversary at 4D
Congratulations Doris! -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Arguing with an insane sailor puts you in his boat. Both of you will sink, but he won't care. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Denver Area Developers
Are there still any 4D Developers in the Denver area? -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Never so clearly does a man see as when he has his head far above the clouds, just before his eyeballs freeze. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write Pro Brain Cramp
Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech wrote: >Could you try changing this line > [Invoice]Invoice_WP:=[Preferences]Preference_Object >to this: > [Invoice]Invoice_WP:=ob copy([Preferences]Preference_Object) I can feel the fog slowly lifting! Now I remember hearing that this is the way objects work. I have a LOT to learn about objects and the occasional kick in the butt to get me on the right track again. Thanks Koen! -- ------ Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- The butterfly will only land on you after you stop grabbing for it. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
4D Write Pro Brain Cramp
I know I'm missing something about 4D Write Pro involving ST Freeze Expressions. In a loop I create an [Invoice] record, assign an invoice template to the Write Pro object field ([Invoice]Invoice_WP:=[Preferences]Preference_Object) Call ST FREEZE EXPRESSIONS([Invoice]Invoice_WP) Save it. The first time through, the [Invoice] record has all the correct references resolved. The second time through, even though the fields being referred to have changed, the saved WP object field contains a copy of the same field from the first one. Basically this for a selection of [Client] records: For ($Ndx;1;Records in selection([Client]) Create Record ([Invoice]) < load, calc and assign needed stuff > [Invoice]Invoice_WP:=[Preferences]Preference_Object ST FREEZE EXPRESSIONS([Invoice]Invoice_WP) SAVE RECORD([Invoice]) NEXT RECORD([Client]) End for What am I missing? Thanks y'all! -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Some people can justify anything. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
WR ON COMMAND in Write Pro
Is there a way to trap 4D Write Pro commands like WR ON COMMAND did in 4D Write? I'd like to trap call from the toolbar widget or the contextual menu. Thanks -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Clean wears itself thin. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Setting Zoom in a 4D Write Pro Area
Yes. I tried all three view modes. But, I just noticed that it would work after I clicked into the Write Pro area. I added a GOTO Object to the area when the form loaded and POOF it works. I wouldn't have thought it had to have focus, but it sort of makes sense given that INVOKE ACTION is effectively executing a contextual menu. The docs do say, "Such actions are always executed synchronously in the context of the editable object that has the focus." I guess I should have read them more closely. Thanks. -- ------ Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- The past is the foundation of who you are, but it is not the design of who you will become. --- Sunastar -- Bernard Escaich via 4D_Tech wrote: >Tom, > >Are you in Page mode ? > >Cordialement, > >Bernard Escaich > > > >> Le 5 févr. 2019 à 01:05, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >a écrit : >> >> From the Tech Tip "Programatically set the Zoom in 4D Write Pro" ><https://kb.4d.com/assetid=78083> the following should set the zoom >level of a 4D Write area. But, it doesn't seem to work, at least for me. >Can any of y'all point out the error of my ways? >> >> $invokeStr:="zoom?value="+String($Scale)+"%" ` "zoom?value=100%" >> INVOKE ACTION($invokeStr;$WP_AreaPtr->) >> >> and $WP_AreaPtr is to a field displaying the 4D WP area. >> >> The area is initially set to 50%. The object changes sizes, since I >set it to Grow/Grow, but the content stays the same size/zoom level. >> >> I wanted to make the zoom reflect a user change in the window size, >and I've even tried it from a button. >> >> Mac v17R3 >> >> Thanks ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Setting Zoom in a 4D Write Pro Area
From the Tech Tip "Programatically set the Zoom in 4D Write Pro" <https://kb.4d.com/assetid=78083> the following should set the zoom level of a 4D Write area. But, it doesn't seem to work, at least for me. Can any of y'all point out the error of my ways? $invokeStr:="zoom?value="+String($Scale)+"%" ` "zoom?value=100%" INVOKE ACTION($invokeStr;$WP_AreaPtr->) and $WP_AreaPtr is to a field displaying the 4D WP area. The area is initially set to 50%. The object changes sizes, since I set it to Grow/Grow, but the content stays the same size/zoom level. I wanted to make the zoom reflect a user change in the window size, and I've even tried it from a button. Mac v17R3 Thanks -- ---------- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Arguing with an insane sailor puts you in his boat. Both of you will sink, but he won't care. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Managing different indexes for different databases
Pat, Now you've got me intrigued. Not to question the validity of this at all, but what does this do for the customer that leaving all the optional indexes on would? Do you, from the design mode, have all the optional indexes turned on, and turn off indexes based on the FieldMap settings? If so, if the Designer logged in would skipping the code that turns off these indexes allow a developer to work without it reindexing? Or, similarly, if a file called "Don't Reindex!" exists on the development machine, don't reset the indexes? Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech wrote: >In our app (CatBase) each customer can manage their own tables and fields >and one of the things they can do is specify whether a particular field is >indexed. Since these indexes are different for each customer, when they get >a program update from us, the indexes have to be recreated and built (there >is a FieldMap table which stores each field's attributes). This is n't a >problem for our customers, but for us developers, it means that if we are >working on several projects, each time we switch from one customer's >database to another, the indexes are all rebuilt. One project I'm currently >working on has about 4 million records and it takes ages to rebuild all the >indexes! The only way around it as far as I can see is to keep two copies >of the structure - one to use just with that database and one for all the >others. But that would introduce all kinds of possibilities for error ... > >Anybody got a better idea for managing this? > >Pat -- ------ Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Only the turtle strong enough to dig itself out of its sandy birthplace makes it to the sea to become a snack for the waiting barracuda. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
4D User Blank
On two 4D servers running on a Mac Mini the 4D User is occasionally blank. Most of the time they're either all there or mostly not. The Machine name, Session name, etc. columns are always populated, just not the 4D User. Any ideas on what might cause this? Thanks -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Those who only see in black and white lose their way when they find themselves in gray areas. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Roy (Suzi) McGregor Paterson R.I.P
Lo and behold wrote: >Close... >It was a Beaver. Y'all still gots that good memory there, yeah buddy. >As I recall Roy was not the only one grinning. Yep, there were a few more of us 4Ding folk. That was a good day. >We all enjoyed the red carpet press reception on our return to the hotel. >Although Roy did insist it was for some old queen or another. I think Brendan had a few comments regarding that. -- ---------- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- You can never be one minute early, but you can be one minute late. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Roy (Suzi) McGregor Paterson R.I.P
Sad news indeed. I met Roy at the Vancouver Summit where he convinced a few of us to take a plane ride on a de Havilland Otter to Vancouver Island. He grinned like a kid having ice cream for the first time. My condolences to her friends and family. -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Wine is always best when shared, even if it's just with yourself. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Emoticons, Emoji, put pictures into eve
Jim Crate via 4D_Tech wrote: >editor, it doesn't actually work that way and turns into ?? when you >close the method editor. So I found this email to the list from a few >years ago, but the ftp link no longer works. This should be supported >natively by now (maybe in v17?) but could anyone send me this emoji method? I have that DB. Do you still need it? -- ------ Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- The butterfly will only land on you after you stop grabbing for it. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Multi-Style Reference Toggle
Doesn't this only work with 4D Write? I'm looking for this to work in a text variable set to multi-style. Charles Miller via 4D_Tech wrote: >WR EXECUTE COMMAND ( area ; cmdNumber ) > >On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:18 PM Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >wrote: > >> In a multi-style text area, is it possible, like in 4D Write, to toggle >> the display between showing References and Data? -- ---------- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- This space intentionally left blank since no one reads signature lines anyway. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Multi-Style Reference Toggle
In a multi-style text area, is it possible, like in 4D Write, to toggle the display between showing References and Data? -- -- Tom Dillon 375 S Main St #405 DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Some people can justify anything. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write and 4D Write Pro
Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech wrote: >You cannot use a 4D Write area in 64 bit. Yeah, I knew that. I was just checking to see if you had recovered from the Paris Summit. :-7 Thanks for setting me straight Tim. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Madness is its own reward. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D Write and 4D Write Pro
Jim Crate wrote: >I'd like to be able to use 4D Write and 4D Write Pro together in the >same database. However, even though 4D Developer Professional >includes a "4D Write - 4D Write Pro" license, even in 64-bit mode I >get a license error when trying to use 4D Write Pro. Ideally, I'd >like to be able to allow a 32-bit client to toggle between showing a >4D Write area and a 4D Write Pro area, and automatically display the >4D Write Pro area for a 64-bit client. I'm getting the same license error when trying to open a 4D Write area in 64 bit v16.3 on a Mac, single user. It works just fine on 32 bit v16.3. Jim, did you find a solution? -- ---------- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Just because you know you're just a piece in a game, doesn't mean you don't choose your moves. --- Dirk Gently -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Old versions of Area List Pro
Milan Adamov via 4D_Tech wrote: >is there an archive of old versions? I have to open of my very old >projects from year 2000 or 2001, I have serial numbers in code, but not >a copy of ALP plugin. What was the version number back then? I have back to 6.0 for Mac, if you need. If so, use the email address below. -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- If you want all your clothes to be clean at once, you're going to have to get naked. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: v13 -Automatically repaired method
Charles Miller wrote: >higjly modified version that keeps track of every save >If you would like to code, please advise I'd love it. Is it something that could be posted to the NUG or some place else to make it broadly available? BTW, "higjly modified" seems to imply that it was modified, in whole or in part, using Higgs bosons. This would be a particularly weighty example of fine 4D coding to share. -- ---------- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Only the turtle strong enough to dig itself out of its sandy birthplace makes it to the sea to become a snack for the waiting barracuda. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: [off] File will not open in excel
Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech wrote: >I'm guessing this as a feature requested by the corporate IT types long >ago so they could dump out data from databases in text format and have >their users easily open them in Excel. > >It macOS version of Excel used to do this but it appears they have >removed that feature. It was removed from Mac Excel by request of Windows IT departments. -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- The past is the foundation of who you are, but it is not the design of who you will become. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: iPhone Panties
Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech wrote: >Something totally off topic, but made me laugh. :-7 People still make millions off of totally silly stuff. Between this and the discussion about the tech list getting fainter, it has me wonder if the 4D Pub is still around. It was pretty well traffice, especially right before and after a Devcon/Summit. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Eat healthy and you'll live a long life. --- Jeffrey Dahmer -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Post Key command not working in converted 4Dv16 database
Ken Daniel via 4D_Tech wrote:
>I am using POST
>KEY(Character code(".");Command key mask) and had the shortcut of Ctrl .
>assigned to a button.
In the database settings, do you have the Cancel Input Form set to Ctrl-period?
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Re: What to do about users who won't follow instructions?
Pat,
Easy!
At the start of the function add:
If(Find in array(aListOfMorons;current user))
Alert("Go ask Bob to run this report for you.")
else
// normal operation
.
.
.
end if
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Re: Number format
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Re: Love 4D's math interpretation...
Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech wrote: >It's a feature! Yeah, you can use it to tell whether or not a DB is compiled. But, I guess "Is compiled mode" is probably easier. -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Computers are like air conditioners. They don't work if you open up windows. -- Linus Torvalds -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Love 4D's math interpretation...
Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech wrote: >Parenthesis should always be used with 4D's math operations as a way to >force the order of operations. A variation of this sig line would be, "Smart is knowing what the order of operations should be; wise is using parentheses to be sure." -- ---------- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Smart is knowing which way to look when crossing a one way street. Wise is looking both ways anyway. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: [off] Age bracket of this group (USA) :)
Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote: >Robert Fripp, and King Crismon are touring! They're playing with Trapeze here in Moab. Or maybe I've just been out in the sun too much this summer. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Smart is knowing which way to look when crossing a one way street. Wise is looking both ways anyway. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Thanks and Goodbye
Joshua, If you're still going to be doing 4D, you should follow the 4D Tech NUG List of Happiness (that's what, I'm sure, everyone calls it now) since it's probably the best place to get 4D job postings. Also, unless you're pretty well planted where you currently are, pick a place you'd love to live or an RV and work remotely. Thanks for participating in the NUG. Good luck. Have fun in whatever you do. See you in the funny papers. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- The life you chase, will eventually catch up to you. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Favorite tricks and keystrokes: Please take one and leave one
I use a method called WindowList which puts a list of all the Design
Environment windows open onto the clipboard. I paste this into a method called
_Work to keep "project" parts readily available. So, when I need to work on
something else for a while, all the other project windows can be closed and
opened back up later.
Basically:
WINDOW LIST($aWinRef)
ARRAY TEXT($aWinName;Size of array($aWinRef))
For ($Ndx;1;Size of array($aWinRef))
$aWinName{$Ndx}:=Get window title($aWinRef{$Ndx})
End for
plus a big Case statement for windows I don't want to keep, like the Explorer,
etc. And, of course I put a comment character at the beginning of each line.
Here's the full code for anyone interested:
// WindowList
// Puts a list of all the Design Environment windows open onto the clipboard
C_LONGINT($Ndx)
C_TEXT($Text;$Title)
C_BOOLEAN($Add)
ARRAY LONGINT($aWinRef;0)
WINDOW LIST($aWinRef)
ARRAY TEXT($aWinName;Size of array($aWinRef))
For ($Ndx;1;Size of array($aWinRef))
$aWinName{$Ndx}:=Get window title($aWinRef{$Ndx})
End for
SORT ARRAY($aWinName)
$Text:="` --- "+String(Current date;7)+" ---"+Char(13)
For ($Ndx;1;Size of array($aWinName))
$Title:=$aWinName{$Ndx}
$Add:=False
Case of
// The first block is NOT added to the list of windows.
: ($Title="")
: ($Title="Custom")
: ($Title="Structure @")
: ($Title="List of tables")
: ($Title="@ - Explorer")
: ($Title="Method: aaa@")
: ($Title="Method: _@")
: ($Title="Method: .@")
: ($Title=("Method: "+Current method name))
: ($Title="Form:@")
$Title:=Replace string($Title;"]";"];\"")+"\""
$Add:=True
: ($Title="Form Method:@")
$Title:=Replace string($Title;"Form Method: ";"")
$Title:=Replace string($Title;"]";"];\"")+"\""
$Add:=True
: ($Title="Object Method:@")
$Title:=Replace string($Title;"Object Method: ";"")
$Title:=Replace string($Title;"].";"];\"")
$Title:=Replace string($Title;".";"\";")
$Add:=True
Else
$Add:=True
End case
If ($Add)
$Title:=Replace string($Title;"Form: ";"")
$Title:=Replace string($Title;"Method: ";"")
$Text:=$Text+"` "+$Title+Char(13)
End if
End for
$Text:=$Text+"` ---"+Char(13)+Char(13)
SET TEXT TO PASTEBOARD($Text)
BEEP
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OB Get on Time Field
I suppose I'm missing something obvious... Within an object "created":"2014-02-01T09:28:56" OB Get is returning the correct date with: OB Get($OBGenInfo;"created";Is date) with But, time always returns ?00:00:02? using: OB Get($OBGenInfo;"created";Is time) Or is the time a count down 'till an IPA or maybe steamer lager? -- ---------- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Life is a great big canvas; throw all the paint you can at it. --- Danny Kaye -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D World Tour - Denver
Sorry, I failed to mention, but of course, JPR's "poof" was in an eelven on a scale of one to ten! Tom Dillon wrote: >I know I'm late to this and that there's only the one World Tour event >left (I had a three day, drinking from a firehose client meeting after >the WT). BUT, I thought about not going, because, ya know, maybe JPR >might have lost some of the perk in his "poof, it is done". And I don't >have enough time to practice how to pronounce Add Komoncharoensiri (I >have trouble with double letters). But, learning what I did about >workers and, in particular, a better way of doing modular form design, >made it more than worth it. > >I know, it's tomorrow and I probably can't make most of the first day! >Do it anyway. You'll thank me, and everyone else who posted about the >World Tour, probably with a beer at the next 4D Summit. -- ---------- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Never apologize for a joke that nobody realized was dirty. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D World Tour - Denver
I know I'm late to this and that there's only the one World Tour event left (I had a three day, drinking from a firehose client meeting after the WT). BUT, I thought about not going, because, ya know, maybe JPR might have lost some of the perk in his "poof, it is done". And I don't have enough time to practice how to pronounce Add Komoncharoensiri (I have trouble with double letters). But, learning what I did about workers and, in particular, a better way of doing modular form design, made it more than worth it. I know, it's tomorrow and I probably can't make most of the first day! Do it anyway. You'll thank me, and everyone else who posted about the World Tour, probably with a beer at the next 4D Summit. -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Even on a road with no turns you can head out across the open field. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Minute of Silence for the "Altura Toolbox"
Lee Hinde (rhymes with wind) sez: >If I had young children I'd read this to them at bedtime tonight. Hush, little partner don't say a word Universal's rising like a big firebird It will fly over platforms all Altura's at the base and it's ten feet tall If you ask when it'll be released I can't say, but you'll be pleased Will the documentation be in Acrobat? Laurent then says, "Why would you want zat?" -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- The focus of the pilot should not be on the dead fly stuck to the windshield. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: v15 - end of line in method editor
Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote: >(Mac) used to be -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- The past is the foundation of who you are, but it is not the design of who you will become. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Is this post making to the iNUG?
Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech wrote: >I am doing a test because the last few posts to the iNUG have not >appeared in the digest email that I receive. If it comes in, I'll tell you. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Chasing a thing does not ensure that it's actually there. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D email client from Dave Batton, where to get the old sample 4DB ?
Armin wrote: >Do you have this newer version too ? I ran across 3.0b5. It was on an 8 inch floppy. :-7 It's at <http://datacraft-inc.com/Email_30b5.zip>. -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- This sig line was accidentally left blank. -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Larry Sharpe
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Re: iNUG List "From" Change
Cannon, I'm getting From: 4D Tech and CC to the original poster. I've also noticed that some of my posts to 4D Tech list get bounced. I should cut back on my wildly offensive SIG lines, I guess. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- What kind of stpid sig line is this? --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Character limit in form text variables?
Jeff, I just tried it and it worked properly (mostly). I put a million characters on the clipboard, pasted it to a text variable on a form and checked the length. Oddly enough the length showed 999,999. I tried putting a few control characters in there just for kicks, but it still worked. You could call Get text from pasteboard and put it directly into the variable to see if that works. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- It's not what you don't know that kills you, it's what you know for sure that ain't true. - Mark Twain -- Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech wrote: >There seems to be about a 383K character limit in text variables on a >form. I have a text document that's about 670K characters (670,092 >characters to be exact) and when I try to paste it into a 4D form (v15.4/ >Mac/Unicode) it truncates at exactly 383,046 characters. > >Can anyone confirm this? Is there a workaround other than loading the >data into a blob or text from a file? I'd like to allow the user to >paste this in. > >In case you're wondering, it's a very long series of SQL INSERT >statements generated by another application. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Missing Pict
Lee Hinde wrote: >The routine runs without errors, but OK is 0 after CONVERT PICTURE and >nothing gets updated. > >I'm wondering if anyone has a suggestion. From testing, it looks like the picture is not being read from the picture library correctly due (probably) to it being a PICT. I used GET PICTURE FROM LIBRARY then SET PICTURE TO PASTEBOARD and the clipboard in the Finder said "Clipboard contents unknown". I also tried pasting into GraphicConvertor with no luck. So, then I tried: PICTURE TO GIF($vpPict;$BLOB) BLOB TO PICTURE($BLOB;$vpPict2) SET PICTURE TO PASTEBOARD($vpPict2). The camera with the red X and PICT image was on the clipboard. So, do you have a v15 version of the structure? :-/ -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Even on a road with no turns you can head out across the open field. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Equals is not always transitive
David Adams wrote: >! Yeah, but the great thing about forgetting is that you can read books and >see movies again for the first time. Now I get to be a newbie in 4D again >;-) I've developed small database that shrinks a list of my ten favorite movies, based on how I answer questions, until there is only one movie left. Then, it sends me on a beer run along Moab's Portal Trail <http://www.ultrarob.com/blog/uploaded_images/P3220287-794338.JPG>. I'm down to two. -- ---------- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- It's not what you don't know that kills you, it's what you know for sure that ain't true. - Mark Twain -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: [Off] Multiple 4D 15 Icons in Mac Dock
Timothy Penner wrote: >If you create a shortcut or link to an application, then add that >shortcut/link to the doc, then click on the shortcut/link you will see >the behavior you describe. >The way to fix this is to remove the shortcut/link from the dock and >then add a reference to the actual application instead (such as by right- >clicking the running application and choosing the option to keep in dock). That did it! Thanks! So, for some reason, dragging v15 to the dock acts as if it's creating a separate alias and moving that to the dock. Weird. Thanks Keisuke, Koen, Randy and Timothy for the replies. -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Even on a road with no turns you can head out across the open field. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
[Off] Multiple 4D 15 Icons in Mac Dock
I have 4D 15.3 in the Doc on my Mac. When I launch it by clicking on it, a second 4D 15 icon appears with the dot below it to indicate it's running. The existing icon doesn't show a dot. All other versions of 4D don't do this, even 16.0. Is this some setting I'm missing? -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Sometimes the only choice is to shoot oneself in the other foot. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Stuck Floating Palettes
Cap'n Bob Miller wrote: >You should know better - even a floating palette gets stuck in a drought. >It is almost certainly your California users who are having this problem. >I read somewhere that at least 6" of water is needed to float one, so be >patient, it may take a few years. Well, this one was stuck on a reef, in Chicago. (It was a blues reef.) -- ---------- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- It's all just 1's and 0's. You just have to get them in the right order. -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Stuck Floating Palettes
Chip Scheide wrote: >Havana! Even better! -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Life is a great big canvas; throw all the paint you can at it. --- Danny Kaye -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Stuck Floating Palettes
Timothy Penner saves the world with: >Any chance you have team viewer installed on those machines experiencing >the issue? >https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome- >instant=1=2=UTF-8#q=disable%20teamviewer%20quickconnect Yessireebob, that fixed it! (At this point, I owe the 4D staff about 42 gallons of beer at the next summit (which should be in Costa Rica, BTW.).) Thanks -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- It's all just 1's and 0's. You just have to get them in the right order. -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Stuck Floating Palettes
4D v15.3 connected to 4D Server Windows 7 and 10 Floating palette windows, both opened programmatically and the Property List in the design environment won't move when attempting to drag them by their title bars. But, only on some machines. And, I haven't found a pattern, in part because I don't have a complete list of the specs on the machines that have working and stuck palettes. Any thoughts? Thanks ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: It's the little things (ordering parameters)
David Adams wrote: >For those of you that pass parameters, order can matter. It's been, what, >30 years now I've been using 4D (!) and I *still* have to double-check >Position and Find in array > >Position(Needle;Haystack) >Find in array(Haystack;Needle) Wow! These could be useful. I just don't remember seeing them in the flowchart editor. -- ------ Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Where does the pale go when your heart starts beating again? --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: How to determine if a SET exists?
Kirk Brooks wrote: >That being said I think the best solution for me right now is the error 39 >trap Jeremy and David and some others have suggested. Just FYI, the Save Set command saves the specified set to a document unless the set does not exist, in which case no document is created, no error is generated and OK is set to 1. So, you could call Save Set and test for the document's existence to determine if the set exists, then delete the document. Probably more work than testing for Error 39, but it's there. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Life is a great big canvas; throw all the paint you can at it. --- Danny Kaye -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Expunging Char (0)
L Lo wrote: >It's not our fault Americans can't spell. >:-) Yeah, I know, like, right? Some of us still put extra letters like "ugh" in tho. How brown is your cow now? (That last sentence is silent.) -- ---------- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- First, get your facts straight. Then you can manipulate them all you want. --- Mark Twain -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D v15 & Mac OS Sierra
One thing that helps: Close the Properties list. Not much help, but it might help when you just need to move things around. Tom Dillon wrote: >4D v15.2 & Mac OS Sierra > >Is anyone else using Sierra yet and are they experiencing spinning >psychedelic pizza of death delays in the form editor? > >Clicking on a form object takes about five seconds before it's selected. >Ay ideas on what might help this or why I upgraded to Sierra so fast? -- ---------- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- It's all just 1's and 0's. You just have to get them in the right order. -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
4D v15 & Mac OS Sierra
4D v15.2 & Mac OS Sierra Is anyone else using Sierra yet and are they experiencing spinning psychedelic pizza of death delays in the form editor? Clicking on a form object takes about five seconds before it's selected. Ay ideas on what might help this or why I upgraded to Sierra so fast? -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Dopeler Effect: the tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly. -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Output lists
Lee Hinde wrote: >What fonts do you like for output forms, on a Mac? I just started using MS Trebuchet for both Mac and Windows since it looks the same on both platforms and I prefer developing on a Mac. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Just because rabbit pellets look like Cocoa Puffs doesn't mean they're part of a nutritious breakfast. --- Sunastar -- ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Very slow typing in text field in CS
Kirk, I'm sure you've tried invoking the debugger using the secret keyboard and mouse handshake to no avail, but have you tried turning on On Before Keystroke and adding a case thusly (and with impunity): :(On before keystroke & Caps lock down) trace The caps thing is so you can wait until entry gets slow. -- -- Tom Dillon 825 N. 500 W. DataCraft Moab, UT 84532 tomdil...@datacraft-inc.com 720/209-6502 -- Maybe we only think we have consciousness. --- Sunastar -- Kirk Brooks wrote: >This is odd. I have a record with a text field. I display the record in a >dialog box (prior to printing but this is before any of that begins) for >user comments. There aren't any read/write issues and the option for data >entry in a dialog is set. The only form event enabled for the text field is >On data change and nothing on the form or the form itself responds to >things like On before keystroke, etc. > >For this particular form as the user types something is processing after >each keystroke because as typing goes on the latency increases until you >just have to stop and let things catch up. I don't see this in single user >and I don't see it when running the app from a server on my machine but it >shows up when deployed. > >I do this same thing - show the field in a dialog box for updating - in a >different form, in the same process, and it doesn't have this problem. I'm >having trouble identifying something that's different between the two >situations. Has anyone else seen something like this? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
