Re: [AI] Need a suggestion about best radio listening Android application

[P Subramani]

The only option is to listen to radio stations using Safari app also bookmark 
the relevant stations for future use
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> On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:36 PM, 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia 
>  wrote:
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> What is the way out to listen to radio then?
> 
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> application
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> How is the accessibility of News on AIR on Android?
> On iOS it can be manageable some extent but its UI is not pleasing.
> For your information this is only for Indian DD news channels and national 
> and regional radio stations.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On 
> Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 12:27 PM
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> application
> 
> Hey BHAWANI, please share the link for the app, as there are several apps 
> available when we search "Radio" on playstore.
> 
>> On 1/24/24, P Subramani  wrote:
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 23, 2024, at 9:16 PM, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is (Vradio) You can listen not only indian but also the entire
>>> world's radio stations in it. It also includes recording facility in
>>> mp3 format with good quality. All the buttons are fully accessible
>>> with talkback. You can make favorite station list also. You can
>>> remotely control this application while travelling by car through
>>> your car stereo or at your home through your home theatre with latest 
>>> bluetooth support.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/23/2024 8:06 PM, Omkar Pawaskar wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone. Hope you all are doing well. I need a suggestion about
>>>> the best Android app for radio listening. Actually I like very much
>>>> to listen the radio stations of India like radio mirchi 98.3 FM,
>>>> 92.7 Big FM and many more. But I am not getting the accessible
>>>> perfect and genuine app for this in the Google Play Store. So please
>>>> suggest me some good Android applications to listen these radio stations. 
>>>> Thanks and regards.
>>>> Omkar Pawaskar.
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Re: [AI] Need a suggestion about best radio listening Android application

[P Subramani]

Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 23, 2024, at 9:16 PM, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA  wrote:

  

  
  
It is (Vradio) You can listen not only indian but also the entire
  world's radio stations in it. It also includes recording facility
  in mp3 format with good quality. All the buttons are fully
  accessible with talkback. You can make favorite station list also.
  You can remotely control this application while travelling by car
  through your car stereo or at your home through your home theatre
  with latest bluetooth support.




On 1/23/2024 8:06 PM, Omkar Pawaskar
  wrote:


  
  
Hi everyone. Hope you all are doing well. I need
  a suggestion about the best Android app for radio listening.
  Actually I like very much to listen the radio stations of
  India like radio mirchi 98.3 FM, 92.7 Big FM and many more.
  But I am not getting the accessible perfect and genuine app
  for this in the Google Play Store. So please suggest me some
  good Android applications to listen these radio stations.
  Thanks and regards.
Omkar Pawaskar.
  
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Re: [AI] RAJESH GOLANI and RAJENDRAN NARAYANAN write in The Hindu: Discrimination in the IITs is something to write about

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This mail is not relevant to this group

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> On 22-Mar-2023, at 11:07 AM, avinash shahi  wrote:
> 
> ‘What merit completely fails to account for are the starting points,
> the trajectories, the social networks, the affluence, the prejudices,
> hardships and innumerable other factors that shape us’ | Photo Credit:
> EMMANUAL YOGINI
> https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/discrimination-in-the-iits-is-something-to-write-about/article66646925.ece
> Darshan Solanki, an undergraduate student of chemical engineering at
> the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Bombay, ended his life on
> February 12, 2023. He was a Dalit. The institute formed a 12-member
> committee to conduct an investigation, which submitted its report on
> March 2. The report said, “It appears from the marks obtained in
> various courses that the performance of Darshan Solanki deteriorated
> specifically in the second half of the autumn semester. His
> deteriorating academic performance could have affected him seriously.”
> The report further said: “Other than the statement of Darshan’s
> sister, there is no specific evidence of direct caste-based
> discrimination faced by him during his stay at IIT Bombay.”
> 
> A continuous process
> Unlike the hard sciences, establishing causal links of discrimination
> is challenging. However, the lack of tools to establish causality does
> not negate the presence of discrimination. In thinking about
> marginalisation, the tendency is to sympathise with the most
> victimised. While that is understandable, it should not dilute the
> many forms of discrimination. What is needed is not sympathy or
> band-aid empathy for the most victimised but a constant engagement
> with the politics of assertion because discrimination is not
> necessarily a one-off, high-pitched melodramatic event of hurling
> abuses at somebody. It is a layered and continuous process that
> happens through everyday doses, steadily creating an atmosphere of
> “us” and “them”. It takes subtle, seemingly innocuous forms such as a
> smile combined with a frown, a wince, a hand gesture, or just silence.
> And, a discussion on discrimination at the IITs needs to be predicated
> on a discussion on merit as it is the embedded idea of merit that
> gives licence to discriminate.
> 
> The political philosopher, Michael Sandel, in the book, The Tyranny of
> Merit, presents a scathing critique of meritocracy as a societal ideal
> and argues how hubris among the elites and a politics of humiliation
> are natural outcomes of meritocracy. This is not to suggest that every
> upper-caste student at the IITs discriminates or that every
> lower-caste student feels victimised. However, some upper-caste
> students at the IITs, knowingly or unknowingly, embody what Sandel
> calls “credentialist prejudice” as symptomatic of meritocratic
> arrogance. This happens, when elites tend to “look down on those who
> do not rise”. Such an approach “undermines social recognition and
> esteem for those who lack the credentials the system rewards”.
> 
> Variations of graded inequality and, consequently, discriminatory
> judgements about one’s so-called abilities are deeply entrenched
> within the veneer of merit at the IITs.
> 
> On campus
> Soon after one enters IIT campuses, one steps into well-demarcated
> zones of hierarchy. The first level of hierarchy is whether you are an
> undergraduate or a postgraduate student. Intermingling of these two
> cohorts was an exception than the norm as undergraduates tended to
> feel superior to postgraduates. For undergraduates, one’s abilities
> are immediately tattooed in the minds of everyone based on one’s rank
> in the entrance exams. Much like the accident of birth, one’s branch
> of studies is an accident of one’s rank. This then becomes the unique
> identifier of this phantom called merit; then, slowly, the lines
> between being objective and objectifying get blurred.
> 
> The accident of the branch of studies results in disinterest and
> disillusionment among some students. But it plays out differently
> among students across caste. On average, for some upper-caste
> disinterested students, it becomes an opportunity to explore other
> facets, which then acts as a justification for bad academic
> performance in college. There is usually an implicit confidence among
> such students that they could be bailed out when needed, owing to
> their family connections, affluence, cultural capital or social
> networks with ‘successful’ people. These act as cushions for them to
> take risks in college. Think of how and whom you would refer for a job
> in your company where you get a referral bonus.
> ch not of their choice, they do not have the luxury to explore or take
> the same kind of risks as their upper-caste counterparts. More often,
> they lack similar connections, affluence or cultural capital as their
> upper-caste friends. An apprehension of being stigmatised for bad
> academic performance tends to amplify 

Re: [AI] Is there any feature phone with speaking clock?

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Jio F3 20 B is not available right now with Jio stores. Any idea where IT is 
available?

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> On 21-Mar-2023, at 4:33 PM, Gajender Singh  
> wrote:
> 
> use Jio f320b
> it will provide better functionality
> 
>> On 3/21/23, Kakarla Nageswaraiah  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> One of my friends wants a feature phone with speaking clock.  The
>> phone should announce the time at the press of a button.
>> Once we had Nokia phones which would announce the time in English or
>> Indian languages.
>> Kindly let me know in detail whether any such feature phones are
>> available in the market at present.
>> Thanks and regards.
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[AI] talkSPORT 2, listen live

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https://www.radio-uk.co.uk/talksport-2


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[AI] BBC radio five oats, extra

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Re: [AI] Vpn access on the iphone

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First, you must change the location to UK so once your location is sent to UK, then you can browse the stations in UK without any restriction or limits. By the way what is the monthly subscription cost after Turbo VPN?Sent from my iPhoneOn 17-Dec-2022, at 11:28 AM, Mission Accessibility  wrote:







Hi All,


In the context of accessing the FIFA World Cup, someone had mentioned recently that one can use a VPN provider to be able to access foreign sports radio stations. I wanted to know how I can exactly do so on the iPhone.  I have installed a Turbo VPN app.
 I tried to access, on the BBC Sounds app, for example, a radio station called BBC radio Oxford. I got a message saying that it does not Have access to that. What do I need to do with the VPN app to be able to get through that restriction? Also, what other
 foreign content are you able to access through VPN apps? Thank you. 




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[AI] bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra

[P. Subramani]

here is the link for bbc radio 5 sports extra.  you can also listen to ipl 
matches here.  

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Re: [AI] bbc_radio_five_live

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I shall give the link after sometimeSent from my iPhoneOn 01-Dec-2022, at 12:01 PM, sushil yadav  wrote:Thanks.The link was working without any VPN during the match?Could you please also provide direct link of bbc 5live sports extra?Thanks and regard.On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:21 PM P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:






here is  
 the direct link to listen fifa commentary on bbc radio 5 live. Just click 
on the below link or copy and paste to the browser.  
 
  
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[AI] bbc_radio_five_live

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here is   the direct link to listen fifa commentary on bbc radio 5 live. Just 
click on the below link or copy and paste to the browser.  
 
  
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Re: [AI] Unable to follow radio commentary of FIFA World cup 2022 since last night

[P Subramani]

Their over rumours that VPN is likely to be banned in IndiaSent from my iPhoneOn 30-Nov-2022, at 11:00 AM, Marco Curralejo  wrote:Grab yourself a decent vpn like nordvpn, pay for it, hop on to BBC sport and happy days. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf Of pranaya raniSent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 4:05 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: Re: [AI] Unable to follow radio commentary of FIFA World cup 2022 since last night could you pls send the links for the said radio stations to me?- Original Message - From: sanjeev kumar To: accessindia Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 10:25 PMSubject: Re: [AI] Unable to follow radio commentary of FIFA World cup 2022 since last night Well friends you can listen football commentary on sun radio and BBC 5 live sports extra topspot 2 and radio 2017 Africa on all these four platforms I am able to listen all matches On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 5:11 PM pranaya rani  wrote:pls give the link for quick vpn and installation proceedure in detail for which I am thankful to you.ś- Original Message - From: "sushil yadav" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 4:52 PMSubject: Re: [AI] Unable to follow radio commentary of FIFA World cup 2022 since last night> yes, It is an app. you can download it from google play store. there> are so many countries IP locations available in this app. you can> choose london. for more information you can call me on 9871541161>>> On 11/29/22, Anirban Mukherjee  wrote:>> What is quick VPN? Is it an app? How to use it? On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 3:40 PM sushil yadav  wrote:> Hi,>> You can listen world cup football commentary of BBC 5live threw VPN.>>> If you are android user then you can use quick VPN. It's free. I am>>> listening BBC 5live and BBC 5live sports extra commentaries threw this>>> VPN from last one and half year.>> On 11/29/22, Anirban Mukherjee  wrote:>>> > In that case, what option do we have except jio cinema? I could follow>>> > a>>> > few games through SEN, but last night's game was not available. Is>>> > there>>> > any possibility of BBC commentary being restored?>>> > Greetings, Anirban Mukherjee ,>>>  > On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 11:29 AM Ketan Kothari >>  >> Hi,>>> > > >> BBC is broadcasting all the matches live but geoblocked.  I don't>>> >> think SEN is available in India without subscription.  Do inform if>>> >> otherwise.>>> > >> Ketan>>> > >> On 28/11/2022, MAYANK SHARMA  wrote:>>> >> > Hi,>>> >>  >> > BBC might not make the important matches available outside the UK>>> since>>> >> > these are the last games of the group stage. Unless someone has a>>> >> > better>>> >> > alternative May I suggest tv streaming? It's not bad and you can>>> >> > pair>>> >> > it>>> >> > with text commentary. Jio Cinema is streaming it free and you can>>> >> > download the app or log in on the website.>>> >>  >> > Hope it helps,>>> >>  >> > Mayank>>> >>  >> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 3:44 PM Anirban Mukherjee>>> >> > > > wrote:>>> >>  >> >> Dear friends,>>> >> >> Till last evening, I was able to follow the BBC radio commentary >>> >> >> of>>> >> >> FIFA>>> >> >> World cup but since last night, I am unable to follow the same.>>> >> >> What>>> >> >> is>>> >> >> being said is that the commentary is unavailable due to rights>>> >> >> restrictions. Are you also facing the same thing? Could you please>>> >> >> help>>> >> >> me>>> >> >> with your valuable inputs?>>> >> >> Looking forward to your suggestions, Yours sincerely Anirban>>> Mukherjee>>> >> > >> >> -->>> >> >> Disclaimer:>>> >> >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the>>> >> >> thinking>>> >> >> of>>> >> >> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its>>> >> >> veracity;>>> >> > >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on>>> >> >> the>>> >> >> mails>>> >> >> sent through this mailing list..>>> >> > >> > >> >> Search for old postings at:>>> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/>>> >> >> --->>> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google>>> >> Groups>>> >> >> "AccessIndia" group.>>> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,>>> send>>> >> an>>> >> >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.>>> >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit>>> >> > > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CA%2BQVbCK00WH%2BGwySqOcvhMy%3DBY8BdZE9xZLFFmrSodDcmiL%3DOA%40mail.gmail.com>>> >> >> <>>> > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CA%2BQVbCK00WH%2BGwySqOcvhMy%3DBY8BdZE9xZLFFmrSodDcmiL%3DOA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>>> >>  >> 

Re: [AI] SEN 1116 Radio, listen live - Radio Australia

[P Subramani]

I was listening to The Sen radio yesterday 9:30 PM Brazil versus Switzerland match. However, the late night match I couldn’t listen and as you see this and radio didn’t have the broadcast commentary of the match. Sometimes what they do is they have the match only on their app and unfortunately that app is free only in Australian New Zealand win Indian users. We have some subscription for the Hai app say like $10 month or so. So there is the problem with them. Sent from my iPhoneOn 29-Nov-2022, at 12:51 AM, Anirban Mukherjee  wrote:I found this station as instructed by you but the ongoing match between Portugal and Uruguay is not there.Greetings, Anirban,On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, 12:09 AM P Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.radio-australia.org/sen-1116


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[AI] SEN 1116 Radio, listen live - Radio Australia

[P Subramani]

https://www.radio-australia.org/sen-1116


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Re: [AI] Unable to follow radio commentary of FIFA World cup 2022 since last night

[P Subramani]

Since the BBC is not broadcasting live football matches, the only other option I find it you can tune into Sen radio SEN son radio from Australia. If you need the link please let me know. Thank youSent from my iPhoneOn 28-Nov-2022, at 6:02 PM, MAYANK SHARMA  wrote:Hi,BBC might not make the important matches available outside the UK since these are the last games of the group stage. Unless someone has a better alternative May I suggest tv streaming? It's not bad and you can pair it with text commentary. Jio Cinema is streaming it free and you can download the app or log in on the website. Hope it helps,MayankOn Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 3:44 PM Anirban Mukherjee  wrote:Dear friends,Till last evening, I was able to follow the BBC radio commentary of FIFA World cup but since last night, I am unable to follow the same. What is being said is that the commentary is unavailable due to rights restrictions. Are you also facing the same thing? Could you please help me with your valuable inputs?Looking forward to your suggestions, Yours sincerely Anirban Mukherjee 



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Re: [AI] वक़्त की शिनाख़्त और सृजन का राग (Hindi Kahani: Waqt Ki Shinakht Aur Srijan Ka Raag) लेखक- रोहिणी अग्रवाल (Rohini Aggarwal):

[P. Subramani]

this mail seems to be hindi and whenever listers send  hindi content, please 
mention in the subjectline saying use hindi tts to read this mail.  as my 
jaws is not  reading anything, i assume this is  in hindi.

sent from my i phone
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Subject: [AI] वक़्त की शिनाख़्त और सृजन का राग (Hindi Kahani: Waqt Ki 
Shinakht Aur Srijan Ka Raag) लेखक- रोहिणी अग्रवाल (Rohini Aggarwal):




नमस्ते !
हमें इस पुस्तक की उपलब्धता की घोषणा करते हुए प्रसन्नता हो रही है  पुस्तक 
का

नाम- हिन्दी कहानी
वक़्त की शिनाख़्त और सृजन का राग (Hindi Kahani: Waqt Ki Shinakht Aur 
Srijan

Ka Raag)   लेखक- रोहिणी अग्रवाल (Rohini Aggarwal)
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Re: [AI] Disabled Cold Shouldered in Budget

[P. Subramani]

very aptly said avichal.  Nprd is using terrible language for the fm and 
also trying project divyang and atma as offensive words.  Obviously they are 
averse to words from sanskrit as their sponsorrers are abroad.  The fm might 
have not used the word disability in her speech yesterday, but for record 
sake, how many fm or even pms have ever used  disabilities in their speeches 
and policy matters:   Due to covid, many depts have been give budgetary cuts 
to fund health/vaccin related.  Its not that only programmes of disability 
persons  are given the cuts.  Moreover, many figures given by nprd are 
misrepresented.  let them quote the actual facts.   So their ideology is the 
problem and AI shouldn't be platform for them to promote such nefarious 
ideas.
- Original Message - 
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disabled Cold Shouldered in Budget


We have already stated, that the government must be criticised where
it is going wrong, but it should also be praised for what it does
right.
Anyone who knows how to read between the lines will easily understand
NPRD's real intention.
Sandesh Sir has already pointed out the glorious history of NPRD,
which is all available in public domain.
So, while we must continue our struggle to make the government listen
and agree to our demands, but we mustn't let some organizations
highjack disability for their vested interests.
We shall oppose any such move tooth and nail.


On 2/2/21, Muhammad Mishbahul  wrote:
NPR day should have said a very good budget for the disable! It should 
have

praise the government despite having a lost budget for disabled ever.
Government is always right no matter what it does. No criticism no 
analysis
no factual interpretation all D’s just shows the blind following even at 
the

interest of our own.

Sent from my iPhone


On 02-Feb-2021, at 10:10 AM, anirudh rao 
wrote:

well the debate has been about the budget here and not anything else.
why are you bringing the other matters into the message of budget?
it seems that the debate has taken the idiological route.


On 2/2/21, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:
Well, NPRD's support to the farmers' protest does not disqualify its
merits.

What the NPRD says about the budget is correct. When most of the
departments

have have got a budget raise, why should MSJe get a smaller chunk of the
pie?

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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From: "Sandesh" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Disabled Cold Shouldered in Budget


Exactly Avichal!
very well said, even I wanted to come to these points.
The language of such groups is absolutely nonacceptable.
These people even don't know the difference between "Atmanirbhar" and
"Atma". I also don't find anything wrong using the word Divyang. and I
can
vouch for many disabled who love the word Divyang in place of Vikalang.
In short, they don't even know what to say where and when. or to be
precise,
they say things
selectively. This is not going to do anything good for the sector as
whole!
I feel there is no
need even to praise the government, only admitting the facts would
suffice
here.
But the way things are discussed by such organisations, it seems that
they
say things for the
sake of saying. I don't know which masters are they trying to please
instead
of working
honestly for the cause of Divyangjan.

They support the Farmers' protest using name of disabled (everybody
knows
what happened on Red Fort on 26th of January), they come to the help of
criminals (Sorry, sorry, Hard-core
criminals) charged by NIA like Stan Swami, they condemn the statement of
Khushbu Sundar on some frivolous grounds because she leaves the Congress
and
join the BJP and smartly ignore the same kind of statements of people
like
Salman Khurshid and others because maybe these people are perfect to
suit
the agenda of such groups who want to insist anything on in the sweet
name
of disabled!

is this the work of/and/for  disability? I even heard that they signed
the
petition exhibiting
solidarity with people showing mercy to killers of many inocent
countrymen
(Yes, I am referring
to Yakoob Menon) to Rashtrapati of India.
for people like me and all members (around 100 blind Karyakartas of
Samarth
Bharat Manch from
various parts of India) all these activities comes under antisocial
catagory. not only this,

for us, all such things could easily be classified as anti-india
activities.
I believe there
shouldn't be any reason for disagreeing here with all that is said.

Asking here the question to NPRD for the sake of curiosity, nothing more
nothing less, and yes,
you are free not to answer as well, because I wasn't here on the list
that
time, what kind of
support you provided to Sadhvi Pragya and Kernal Purohit, because Sadhvi
did
bound to
wheelchair and Mr. Purohit became almost disabled by the police
treatment.
entire country saw their condition. I hope you 

Re: [AI] Webinar on Delhi Riots

[P. Subramani]

i think this mail is blown out of proportion.  Sandesh's mail wasa mere 
invite  conducted by a disability group.  So where are the violations of AI 
group's guidelines?  For those raising objections to sandesh's mail, where 
were your voices when eyeway posted a webinar link featuring  extremely 
controversial rajdeep sardesai whose contribution to disability is next 
zero.  As eyeway mail suited  your ideology, none of you  against such 
mails.  As sandesh's mail goes atainst your nefarious ideology, there is 
outrage and hate mongering.  Since it was a simple invite mail, it should 
have been just ignored same as many mail unrelated mails from NPRD.
- Original Message - 
From: "'Mahendra Galani' via AccessIndia" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Webinar on Delhi Riots



agree with Ashif, Harish, you should stop this here only.

At 01:43 PM 11/19/2020 +0530, you wrote:

Guess sea of hatred also flamed our blind and visually impaired community.
I personally do not agree with the mail stated and thank you Harish
bhai for intervening.
I have contributed imensly towards nation building purely out of love
for my country and will continue to do so in the future.  India
belongs to all Indians and proud to be Indian Muslim.
Asif

On 11/19/20, pranaya rani  wrote:
> nicely said sandesh and avichalits just an invite with interested ones
> contacting sandesh and others ignoring it.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sandesh" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Webinar on Delhi Riots
>
>
>> Avichal has said all.
>> But Harishbhai, the beginning of the original mail has a line "Those
>> having interest could join:" speaks everything.
>> and the initiative "Samarth Bharat Manch" is taken by blind people 
>> from

>> all over the country.
>> this too speaks everything about qualification of the mail reaching AI 
>> for

>>
>> those interested only.
>> and as far as NPRD's mails are concerned. language in their mail again
>> speaks everything.
>> Anyway, I already got 2-3 calls from people after reading this item on 
>> AI

>>
>> showing interest
>> this too again speaks everything.
>> Thanks alot.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Harish" 
>> To: ; "Aziz Minat"
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Webinar on Delhi Riots
>>
>>
>>> All
>>>
>>> Can we please have non disability content packaged in any form out of
>>> this list please.
>>>
>>> Quite often issues which are non disability in essence but somehow
>>> disability is dragged to the list.
>>>
>>> Harish
>>>
>>> Moderator
>>>
>>> On 19/11/2020 08:03, Aziz Minat wrote:
 If people are having problems with NPRD taking stands in support of
 farmers
 what is the reason we are promoting books based on fabricated
 investigations and unsubstantiated lies? visually challenged 
 community

 is
 one of the community which has been untouched by the hate project of
 hindutva or conservative Islam, let it remain so. Why should people 
 be

 the
 part of things which promotes otherising and hatred under the garb 
 of

 nation building? Let's have a collective resolve not to  vitiate the
 very
 intention and purpose of the list by posting this kind of stuff 
 because


 we
 had problems with NPRD statements as well in the past.

 Laal salaam, long live workers unity

 On Thu, 19 Nov 2020, 01:06 Sandesh,  
 wrote:


> Those having interest could join:
>
>
>   Namaskaar,
>
> Samarth Bharat Manch is a new initiative taken up by the visually
> impaired (Drushtidivyang) people of Bharat to contribute towards 
> the

> cause
> of nation building.
>
> Like minded visually impaired people came together from different
> parts of Bharat and established Samarth Bharat Manch in 2019.
>
> In December 2019, Samarth Bharat Manch organized a wonderful two 
> days

> long
> seminar in Nashik on the topic 'Growing role of Hindutva in 
> changing

> India'.
> It was a unique seminar of its own kind and a new chapter was 
> started

> in
> this field. A special lecture of Shri Pushpendra Kulsreshtha was 
> also

> organized for the general
> public of Nashik city, which became a great hit.
>
>
> This proved that now the visually impaired community of India is 
> also

> synchronizing each step and walking shoulder to shoulder with their
> non-disabled mates confirming that even with such visual 
> challenges,

> we
> the visually impaired people of Bharat do have our share for the 
> cause

>
> of
> nation's building.
>
>
> Taking this initiative to a further height, Samarth Bharat Manch 
> has
> ushered into the field of webinars and after overwhelming success 
> of
> its first webinar, it 

Re: [AI] NPRD Support to Agitating Farmers

[P. Subramani]

whats the point in supporting farmers agitations? we don't get support from 
others for our agitations/grievances.  NPRD is  exploring to find some space 
for itself.  It is upto nprd to  support or not,but AI should not be used as 
a publicity tool. P. Subramani
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandesh" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NPRD Support to Agitating Farmers


Very well said Avichal.
and yes, apart from inclusion of disabled, nothing is there in such
oppositions and protests. and yes, here, farmers are happy with this
movement.
hence, words such as (nationwide), (national) are just flat and decorative
words here.

Vande Mataram


- Original Message - 
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NPRD Support to Agitating Farmers


Here, it is pertinent to note that not all farmers are against the new
farm bills, its rather an issue of rich farmers vs the poor farmers.
The former are opposing it, where as the latter are supporting it.
Also, the agitation is limited to only a few states.
Hence, calling it as a nationwide protest is highly exaggerated.
There of course must be no compromise on the issue of inclusion of the
disabled in NFA.

On 9/24/20, vikas shivsharan  wrote:

I want contact details of national platform for right of person with
disability

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 12:26 PM National Platform For The Rights of the
Disabled  wrote:



September 24, 2020


*Press Statement*


The National Platform for the Rights of the Disabled (NPRD) extends its
wholehearted support to the ongoing struggle of the kisans throughout the
country against the retrograde legislations - popularly called “farm
bills”
-  passed by Parliament.


These Bills will not only accentuate the crisis in the rural economy but
will lead to the dismantling of the PDS and the National Food Security
Act
(NFSA), which in turn will escalate prices of essential commodities, lead
to food insecurity, malnutrition and hunger.


The disabled, despite being one of the most socially and economically
marginalised sections, were left out from being automatically included
under the NFA. The implementation of these legislations will only worsen
their conditions. Even the Delhi High Court had reprimanded the Central
Government in this regard and has sought its response by September 29,
the
next date of hearing in the case.


The NPRD calls upon its affiliates in the states to extend their support
to the peasants who are out on the streets protesting against the passage
of these Bills. It also demands the automatic inclusion of the disabled
in
the “priority households” category in the NFA.




*Muralidharan*

*General Secretary*


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36, Pt. Ravishankar Shukla Lane
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[AI] Shah Faesal reached out to NSA before he quit party; open to IAS return - india news - Hindustan Times

[P. Subramani]

Shah Faesal reached out to NSA before he quit party; open to IAS return - india 
news - Hindustan TimesShah Faesal reached out to NSA before he quit party; open 
to IAS return - india news - Hindustan Times



https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/shah-faesal-reached-out-to-nsa-before-he-quit-party-open-to-ias-return/story-gzjuYwwztB5lNTg8tu141O.html?utm_source=Daily_Newsletter_medium=HT_Email


Shah Faesal reached out to NSA before he quit party; open to IAS return
Faesal, 37, who hits the headlines in 2009, when he became the first person 
from Kashmir to top the Indian Administrative Services exam, acknowledged that 
he has been in touch with officials in New Delhi, although he declined to 
specify details.
 Faesal, 37, who hits the headlines in 2009, when he became the first person 
from Kashmir to top the Indian Administrative Services exam, acknowledged that 
he has been in touch with officials in New Delhi. (Hindustan Times/Ronjoy 
Gogoi) 
Bureaucrat-turned-politician Shah Faesal, who left the party he himself 
founded, quit only after making contact with top officials in the Union 
government. Faesal had a talk with National Security Adviser (NSA) Ajit Doval 
before informing his party colleagues in the Jammu & Kashmir People’s Movement 
(JKPM) that he was leaving, HT has learnt.

Faesal, 37, who hits the headlines in 2009, when he became the first person 
from Kashmir to top the Indian Administrative Services exam, acknowledged that 
he has been in touch with officials in New Delhi, although he declined to 
specify details.

“There has been a lot of speculation about the conversations I’m having with 
people in the government. I have been a member of IAS, and it’s nothing strange 
if I’m meeting people in the government,” he said. 

“I have to live and work here and this is perfectly normal,” he added. 

The NSA was not available for comment.

Faesal suggested that he is not opposed to rejoining the service, and there is 
talk that he could be reinstated.

Faesal, who once promised to be the voice of Kashmir’s young people has come a 
long way. His views, too, have changed. “I think we need to understand that in 
1949 national consensus was about incorporating Article 370 and the 2019 
national consensus is about scrapping it. We have to understand the mood of the 
nation and come to terms with the reality.”

Early in 2019, Faesal announced his resignation from the IAS and became a vocal 
critic of the government. Jammu & Kashmir was stripped of its special status in 
August last year, and at the time, he tweeted: “Kashmir will need a long, 
sustained non-violent political mass movement for the restoration of political 
rights. Abolition of Art 370 has finished the mainstream. Constitutionalists 
are gone. So you can either be a stooge or a separatist now. No shades of grey.”

He has now deleted all his tweets. Asked to explain the stooge-and-separatist 
comment , he said: “I was talking about the political grey zone in which 
electoral politics operated. I said that once the grey zone is over now people 
will call you stooge or separatist. [And] I said I’m neither of the two.”

He added: “I’m a proud citizen of this country who wants to make a difference 
in the lives of people. I don’t recognise these labels at all.”

In a signed article for this paper in January last year, Faesal enunciated the 
reasons he quit the IAS. He said then that Kashmir was in a crisis and that as 
an insider, he had decided to ring the alarm bell.

After being in touch with top officials in the government, Faesal now says he 
accepts the new reality. “We are face to face with a new political reality in 
Kashmir. Since August 5, the facts on the ground have changed. I want to 
articulate my understanding of the situation without the need to be politically 
correct. Kashmir has suffered a lot in the past. I don’t want to bank on the 
old illusions, take Kashmiris down a garden path, and build my career on that. 
I’m quitting with all humility and telling people that I can’t promise 
something that I can’t deliver.”

He now seems hopeful that the legislative route will provide answers. “In a 
democracy, this consensus is dynamic and we should not lose hope. The same 
Parliament has provided answers in the past and I’m sure the same Parliament 
will provide answers in the future also,” he said.

Faesal’s resignation from the IAS is still pending and he may be reinstated, 
though the timeline for that is not clear. “The rules can be tweaked to 
accommodate him,” an official said.

Faesal is not averse to returning to the bureaucratic fold. “I am not averse to 
working with the government. Public administration is my domain of expertise. 
That’s where I belong,” he said.

Officials in Delhi and Srinagar who asked not to be named said he could be 
rejoining soon, and could also be reinstated in an advisory role.

 



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[AI] Keyboard Hel!

[P. Subramani]

Friends, Delete and backspace keys are not working in outlook express 6 win 7 
64-bit.  Whereas, both keys work as normal as ever in all other applications.  
In outlook express, while composing or forwarding, when I to delete the 
unwanted text using delete or backspace keys the same doesn't work.  Any 
solutions/suggestions please. P. Subramani  



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Re: [AI] Tirupathi tirumala devesthana facilities for VI persons

[P. Subramani]

I had been to tirumala last week.  Their rules and regulations keep changing 
with the seasons.  Many things have changed.   Although there is a special 
cue for disabled/senior citizens for darshan, you must be at their counter 
near museum  where they take your photos (you and your one escort),  and 
only 2 laddus are issued that is, one per person.  Also, note you must carry 
the disability certificate.   After getting the relevant tokens for the 
darshan, we are transported  via TTD vehicles to some gate through which we 
are led and seated in huge compartments for  a very long time.  Regarding 
room accommodation,  we are sent directly to the counter where a bill/slip 
is generated for the room on payment after which we have to wait  for turn 
that is, for our token number that will be displayed on a large screen which 
will not less 3 to 4 hours rarely it happens within 2 hours.   With the 
present arrangement my advise for all the blind people is not to visit 
tirumala with such high risk.  I have taken up with TTD several times to 
simplify the procedure or revert to the earlier procedures which were quite 
benevolent for us.  But unfortunately, I haven't got even a single response 
till date.   For more, you may call me 9738150192 to more clear picture.  P. 
Subramani
- Original Message - 
From: "vivek doddamani" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 13 February, 2020 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tirupathi tirumala devesthana facilities for VI persons



Friend, in Tirupati there is special arrangements for disabled persons
at 10am, you should go to the main enterence gate of the main temple
with escort, there you will be provided with a receipt for two Ladoos
and disabled persons with one escort are let in for Darshanam.

On 2/13/20, Saravanan  wrote:

Dear Friends,

Does any of our friends visited Tirumala recently.
How about the facilities offered by TTD committee for us.
I am planning to go there very soon.
How about the room booking procedures for us there.
How many days we can stay there.
Is there any special darshan arrangements for pwd persons.
I also want to know the nearby temples & places to visit there.
I am waiting for your valuable inputs.
Thanks in advance
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Re: [AI] blackberry phones.

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thanks for the feedback, seems not adviseable
- Original Message - 
From: "PRAMIT BHARGAVA" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 16 January, 2020 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] blackberry phones.



Hi,

I use blackberry Q10, based on blackberry 10 operating system. It has got 
a

physical keyboard. While it works pretty well for me I would not recommend
it as it is pretty old - about 6 years old.

Currently the blackberry is available running android system but for all
practical purposes, are End of Life and blackberry may not provide any
support.

The only reason one may want to consider blackberry is for its physical
QWERTY keyboard. Blackberry hub where all email messages notifications 
come

in is another benefit.

Pramit

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:58 PM P. Subramani 
wrote:


Friends, I would like to know if blackberry phones can be used by blind
persons, does it have voice like talkback, etc.  Also would like to know 
if

anyone using the same? Thanks and regards, P. Subramani



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[AI] blackberry phones.

[P. Subramani]

Friends, I would like to know if blackberry phones can be used by blind 
persons, does it have voice like talkback, etc.  Also would like to know if 
anyone using the same? Thanks and regards, P. Subramani



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Re: [AI] icc world cup

[P Subramani]

Pls send abc link

Sent from my iPhone

> On 06-Jun-2019, at 12:59 PM, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
> 
> All India Radio has also started broadcasting running commentary on FM 
> Rainbow and some medium wave channels for all matches of World Cup Cricket 
> 2019.
> 
> This time broadcast is also available on online App.
> 
> Beside this, Sportsflashes is broadcasting commentary in Hindi, English and 
> Bangla.
> 
> https://sportsflashes.com/radio/cricket
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Amit Bhatt
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ketan Kothari" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled." 
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2019 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] icc world cup
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you want TMS commentary then there are ways to listen.  Radio
>> Sports from New Zealand is available as of now.  There is also an ABC
>> link.  And of course, as Ajay wrote Air is broadcasting.
>> 
>> Ketan
>> 
>>> On 05/06/2019, Manoj  wrote:
>>> how can we listen icc world cup commentry
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Re: [AI] Voting experience yesterday

[P. Subramani]

I voted yesterday having 2 evms, however I didn't even touch the second evm 
as the candidate's name  to whom i voted  was in the first evm.  due to hot 
conditions and big cues I  couldn't waste the time. P. Subramani
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Subject: Re: [AI] Voting experience yesterday



Dear list,
if anyone of you had more than 1 EVMS in your constituency, kindly
tell whether braille signs in the 2nd  EVM were matching the sighted
serial numbers?
As it is noticed here in Mysore and Mandya
where more than one EVMS were used,
the Braille  numbers in the 2nd machine was once again started from
one instead of from 17.
In other words, The braille numbers in the 2nd machines are not in par
with the sighted numbers.
When my friends raised this issue with the R.O.s and A.R.O.s, they
simply try to tought them basic mathematics like 16 plus 16 and so on.
Dear list,
I strongly feel that, it is clear violation of the principle of
"informed Voating" as  the improper information is causing misled
voating.
Lets consider the sighted voters scenario:
A sighted voter can ensure to whom he/she is voating through multiple
ways as the EVMs contain sighted serial numbers, symbles and by the
candidate's photos as well.
But for a visually impaired voter, probably,
the only way of knowing to whom he/she is voating is through braille 
signs.

If the braille serial numbers are not matching the actual serial
numbers of the candidates,
how it can be called an accessible and informed voating?
One of the official said and it is also observed that,
there is a Braille lable for the aditional machine.
If the Numbers of EVMs can be put in Braille, why cant the ECI go
farward and put the candidates serial number in aditional EVMs in
accordance with standard serial numbers?


With regards:
Prashanth MN
Panchayat Development Officer,
Rural Development & Panchayat Raj Department


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Re: [AI] Australia vs India Cricket Series

[P Subramani]

For South Africa versus Pakistan running commentary please go to radio 2000 
there broadcasting live commentary

Sent from my iPhone

> On 04-Jan-2019, at 12:26 PM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
> 
> Hi George,
> 
> 
> Radio 2000 From South Africa is broadcasting the commentary.  You can
> search via google or install an app called Radio ZA and search for the
> station.
> 
> 
> Ketan
> 
>> On 04/01/2019, George Abraham  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Any such links for the South Africa Pakistan series?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
>> Of B. R. Nautial
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 9:58 PM
>> To: AccessIndia Mailing Group
>> Subject: [AI] Australia vs India Cricket Series
>> 
>> Hello friends!
>> Have a nice day to all of you.
>> Friends, 4th & final cricket test match between India & Australia will
>> begin
>> at Sydney cricket groung from tomorrow. You can enjoy the live audio
>> running
>> commentary of the match in 3 different languages everyday since 5:00am to
>> 12:30pm.
>> click on the given link to listen audio commentary as per your choice.
>> You can also listen running commentary of 3 One day international matches
>> between India & Australia later this month.
>> Indian cricket team will visit New Zealand to play 5 One day matches,
>> followed by 3 t20 matches from 23rd of January.
>> Hindi Audio Commentary
>> https://sportsflashes.com/radio/cricket
>> 
>> English Audio Commentary
>> 
>> https://sportsflashes.com/radio/cricket-indvsaus2018-english
>> 
>> Bangla Audio Commentary
>> 
>> https://sportsflashes.com/radio/bangla-radio
>> 
>> 
>> With regards
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>> Mobile: 9915073368
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[AI] ABC Grandstand Live Audio - ABC Radio

[P. Subramani]

Friends, india vs australia cricket commentary is live on abc grandstand 
with good quality commentary from harsha bogle, jim maxwel and others. I am 
listening on my iphone andno idea whether it works on pc.  kindly  click on 
the link below for the same.  With regards, P. Subramani



https://www.abc.net.au/radio/grandstand/live/
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Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

[P. Subramani]

obviously mainstream medical scientists will never ever verify and certify 
the potents of alternate medicines/treatments as the medical scientists will 
loss their business.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ved" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Sent: 30 November, 2018 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?



Riaiki is not considered scientific. It is just a matter of faith.
Healing by touch is practised by many riaiki Masters. However, it is not 
verified by any medical scientists or doctors.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 12:55 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 

Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

Friends,

You may want to read this following overview about Reiki and midbrain 
activation from this following link:


http://reikimasterpuran.blogspot.com/p/mid-brain-activation-course.html


Thank You.

Sathiya


On 11/29/18, Anshul Kapoor (अंशुल कपूर)  wrote:

I enquired about this technique about 4-5 years back from a person
teaching the same in Gujarat. He was making sighted children read
books with their eyes closed. On enquiring he told me that it is not
possible for adults as people who develop logic cannot get benefit
from this technique. I mailed the same on access India at that time
also. Only children who haven't developed logical thinking can
successfully practice this technique. The person from Gujarat told me
that it is my business and I will benefit from it but  adults cannot
do this at all. My father told me about this on viewing a TV channel and 
I searched for  his contact no. from the net.


With regards

Anshul Kapoor
Cell- 9958890358

"In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right
thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you
can do is nothing."
Theodore Roosevelt


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Kriya Jain
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:25 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

Why not someone just tries it? anyways it's free. Having some mind
exercises and reiki won't harm anyone if not any good, right?

Regards,
Kanchan


On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 10:28 AM Asudani, Rajesh

wrote:


Yes, it is, and so I have changed it.

As I have said earlier, it appears that information is conveyed via
touch and other senses, information which appears primarily to be 
visual.


I have heard of it in children below 15, and they were not willing to
try it for me, i.e. totally blind person a little upwards of forty.

Now, if somebody has tried for blind children and is willing to try
it out in blind adults, let us not scoff at the attempts.
Yes, exaggerated claims like blind can see and associating prominent
scientists unnecessarily should be avoided.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of George Abraham
Sent: 30 November 2018 08:50
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!

Is there a problem with the subject line. Is it a little misleading?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of shobhan singh
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 12:46 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!

Dear list members,
First of all, I would like to make clear that I am dr. Shobhan Singh
working as an Assistant Professor at Zakir Husain Delhi College in
university of Delhi and I am also a visually impaired. I have not
mentioned or claimed in any of my mail that I have specialization in
Science of Mind or therapy which would be use to cure blindness
during this 7 days’ camp.
I
am just an organizer and participant of the camp.
Mr. Jitendra an IIT passed out and has worked as software Engeneer in
Japan for 10 years belongs to Haryana State, is specialised in
Science of Mind from Japan. Jitendra resigned from his job and after
returning from Japan to India, he began his social service based on
his own observations and inferences from Science of Mind and decided to 
cure blindness.

As far as technique of the treatment is concern, it involves 4 steps:
1. Breathing excercises,
2. Pranic heeling,
3. Reki therapy and
4. Few certain brain exercises.
Persons with visual impairment of any type and age group can be cured
with these techniques however, it effectively and quickly works on
below 40 years old people.
But it does not mean or claim that these techniques would change
one’s physical and medical conditions, it would just active sense of
sight or 

Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!

[P. Subramani]

Dr. Singh is unfortunately unable to articulate the matter.  Our groups 
members as always are in haste with their own conclusions. Those asking for 
scientific verification are themselves exhibiting their unscientific 
thinking by concluding that whatever Dr. Singh has posted is totally 
fake/baseless.  This information is  bare few days to all of us. So Lets 
wait  for enough truths/witnesses and let someone  investigate the veracity 
of the claims and then we shall reach necessary conclusions.  As Rajesh said 
if its true and doesn't involve any medication, even if there is some chance 
of getting some vision, why not we try after getting the right information 
and after fully convincing ourselves. Branding the  Claims of Dr. Singh at 
this stage as fake andbaseless is totally foolish.  Dr. Singh shall take hiw 
time and come up with proper backup to support his claims. P. Subramani
- Original Message - 
From: "Ved" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Sent: 30 November, 2018 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!





Science of mind is psychology
Science of brain is neurology.
The one who deals in psychology, cannot cure eye diseases.-Original 
Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of shobhan singh

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 12:46 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 

Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!

Dear list members,
First of all, I would like to make clear that I am dr. Shobhan Singh 
working as an Assistant Professor at Zakir Husain Delhi College in 
university of Delhi and I am also a visually impaired. I have not 
mentioned or claimed in any of my mail that I have specialization in 
Science of Mind or therapy which would be use to cure blindness during 
this 7 days’ camp. I am just an organizer and participant of the camp.
Mr. Jitendra an IIT passed out and has worked as software Engeneer in 
Japan for 10 years belongs to Haryana State, is specialised in Science of 
Mind from Japan. Jitendra resigned from his job and after returning from 
Japan to India, he began his social service based on his own observations 
and inferences from Science of Mind and decided to cure blindness.

As far as technique of the treatment is concern, it involves 4 steps:
1. Breathing excercises,
2. Pranic heeling,
3. Reki therapy and
4. Few certain brain exercises.
Persons with visual impairment of any type and age group can be cured with 
these techniques however, it effectively and quickly works on below 40 
years old people.
But it does not mean or claim that these techniques would change one’s 
physical and medical conditions, it would just active sense of sight or 
seeing or to say its mid-brain activation.
As far as medical certificate is concern, is not essential.Sent from my 
Iphone


On 29-Nov-2018, at 8:48 PM, bhawani shankar verma  
wrote:


I still can not understand that why this discussion is going in this 
group.

it means that it is too easy to make foolish inteligent people.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2018, 7:57 p.m. Austin Pinto

as shobhan singh says he will clear our doubts when free i have some
questions which will be helpful for us.
1. if you carefully see the video the children are asked to touch
shapes drawn on paper and find out size, color etc.
why is this are the shapes drawn using some type of tactile or 
something?

how can some1 find out color of shapes by touch.
2. who can benefit from this camp.
can people with optic nerve damage attend?
what are the age groups that can attend cause in this video we only
see small children.
please clarify.


On 11/29/18, sazid shaik  wrote:
intresting,


On 11/29/18, shobhan singh  wrote:
As soon as I will be free by this evening I will try to Clare all
the doubts and confusions.

Sent from my Iphone


On 29-Nov-2018, at 1:47 PM, Ved  wrote:

Why videos. Give your address and I am coming to attend the camp
in

order

to see myself.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of shobhan singh
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:25 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!

Yes all of them are able to see. Soon I will send videos by this

evening

of those people.

Sent from my Iphone


On 28-Nov-2018, at 12:14 PM, bhawani shankar verma
 wrote:

are they able to see now? those 400 blind children?


-Original Message- From: shobhan singh
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:11 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired can see now!

I'll send you the videos of the sessions conducted in Haryana,
Ludhiyana and Calcutta Blind schools where about 400 children and
adults have been 

Re: [AI] SAMSUNG ACCESSIBLE TV

[P Subramani]

Whats the cost

Sent from my iPhone

> On 05-Nov-2018, at 12:13 PM, bhawani shankar verma  
> wrote:
> 
> dear list, please recall my mail regarding accessible tv Samsung M5570.
> Now Samsug has launched another accessible model SUHD4K Curved Smart TV 
> JS9000 
> Please follow the steps below to enable voice guide in this TV:
> How to enable Voice Guide in Samsung SUHD 4K Curved Smart TV JS9000? | 
> Samsung Support India
> NOTE : You can activate voice guides that describe the menu options aloud to 
> aid the visually impaired. If the Voice Guide is set to On, the Samsung Smart
> Control's motion sensor does not work. To use the motion sensitivity sensor, 
> set Voice Guide to Off. 
> 
> 1Press MENU/123 button from Smart Remote control.
> 2Select MENU as shown below.
> 3From the Home screen, select System.
> 4Select Accessibility.
> 5Select Voice Guide.
> 6Select Voice Guide again.
> 7Select On to enable Voice Guide.
> 8Voice Guide is now enabled.
> 
> thank you,
> 
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[AI] MS Outlook help.

[P. Subramani]

I am using office 2007, I would like to know if there is a shortcut key to go 
to Search Toolbar as I am unable to go to the same  by other methods.  anyone 
using ms outlook may kindly advise.  Thanks and regards, P. Subramani



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Re: [AI] India vs. West Indies audio commentary

[P. Subramani]

does AIR broadcast ind vs wi  odi commentary?
- Original Message - 
From: "Ketan Kothari" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 23 October, 2018 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] India vs. West Indies audio commentary



Hi,
How do I listen to it on my iPhone? I don’t think class ports is
broadcasting commentary outside West Indies.

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 3:21 PM, P Subramani  
wrote:



You can listen to class sports radio from Jamaica.net

Sent from my iPhone

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>
> I was helped by a friend from this list to get the radio commentary on
> Android of India V. West Indies for the tests and the same has
> comntinued for ODI's but I wonder how do I listen to the same on PC or
> Iphone.   ON Android I am using an app that  was earlier called Geet
> Radio and now is called All India Radio but has nothing to do with
> official AIR app.  Please do help.
>
> With best wishes,
>
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Re: [AI] India vs. West Indies audio commentary

[P. Subramani]

http://www.jamaicaradio.net/klas-sport/
- Original Message - 
From: "Ketan Kothari" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 23 October, 2018 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] India vs. West Indies audio commentary



Hi,
How do I listen to it on my iPhone? I don’t think class ports is
broadcasting commentary outside West Indies.

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 3:21 PM, P Subramani  
wrote:



You can listen to class sports radio from Jamaica.net

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23-Oct-2018, at 2:20 PM, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I was helped by a friend from this list to get the radio commentary on
> Android of India V. West Indies for the tests and the same has
> comntinued for ODI's but I wonder how do I listen to the same on PC or
> Iphone.   ON Android I am using an app that  was earlier called Geet
> Radio and now is called All India Radio but has nothing to do with
> official AIR app.  Please do help.
>
> With best wishes,
>
> Ketan
>
> --
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Re: [AI] India vs. West Indies audio commentary

[P Subramani]

You can listen to class sports radio from Jamaica.net

Sent from my iPhone

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> Android of India V. West Indies for the tests and the same has
> comntinued for ODI's but I wonder how do I listen to the same on PC or
> Iphone.   ON Android I am using an app that  was earlier called Geet
> Radio and now is called All India Radio but has nothing to do with
> official AIR app.  Please do help.
> 
> With best wishes,
> 
> Ketan
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[AI] Need Contact Info!

[P. Subramani]

Friends, I need contact info of Nagaraj Rao More or Vishaka More.  Anyone 
having the same may pls send to me.  Thanks and regards, P. Subramani



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Re: [AI] Is there any Railways Employee on the list?

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There is a govt of india circular wherein  an escort can accompany the 
disabled person for training/workshops, etc. However I don't remember the 
G.O. no.
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 26 July, 2018 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Is there any Railways Employee on the list?



i think so there is no such type of circular.  is this type of
circular is available for central govt employees?  please tell.

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 7/26/18, Binni Kumari  wrote:

Dear Listers,

Greetings of the day!
I need information from any Railways employee if a person with visual
impairment employee can avail the facility of an escort during the
training? If one uses the facility of an escort will he/she be paid by
the employer (Indian Railways)  for the accommodation and commuting?
If so is there any supporting document in this regard? An HR is
denying the same to a Railways employee who happens to be a visually
impaired person. Due to medical condition she wants to take her mother
along with her for 45 days training but an HR officer is denying as
stated earlier.
Thanks for your anticipated response.
With warm regards,
Binni Kumari!




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Re: [AI] Looking for Fifa World Cup Commentary.

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in cases, they change the telecast to a different channel. Although I don't 
know the channel's name, but browsing various sports channels, we can get 
the desired channel.
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Sent: 13 July, 2018 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for Fifa World Cup Commentary.


Yes, I enjoy it. The only problem is that when there is a cricket match, 
any match with Ireland or so, the operator stops the hindi football 
commentary and switches over to the cricket match.


With best regards
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329

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but hindi commentary on sony 10 is exceptional compared to english 
commentary on another tv channel
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concerning the disabled." 

Sent: 11 July, 2018 9:11 PM
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Sir,

You may be right. But I found it much better than the TV commentary, 
where they   Give away too little details about what is happening on the 
ground. And it lags only by two minutes.



I think the commentary is available on  SBS radio also. Regards,
Ratheesh
Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:


I have listened to talk sports.  But their commentary is boring/dull 
and is behind by atleast 5 mins or more.
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." 

Sent: 11 July, 2018 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for Fifa World Cup Commentary.



Hi sir,

You can listen it on talk sports. Unfortunately the broadcast is only 
available in UK. But there are some work arounds to overcome the Geo 
blocking. Since it may be against the rules of access India to discuss 
ait here I am not daring to mention it in this mail


Sent from my iPhone


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Hello,

Is there any radio or tv channel on the internet where I can listen 
to football world cup ohn my laptop or phone?


With best regards
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329



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Re: [AI] Looking for Fifa World Cup Commentary.

[P. Subramani]

but hindi commentary on sony 10 is exceptional compared to english 
commentary on another tv channel
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 11 July, 2018 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for Fifa World Cup Commentary.



Sir,

You may be right. But I found it much better than the TV commentary, where 
they   Give away too little details about what is happening on the ground. 
And it lags only by two minutes.



I think the commentary is available on  SBS radio also. Regards,
Ratheesh
Sent from my iPhone


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I have listened to talk sports.  But their commentary is boring/dull and 
is behind by atleast 5 mins or more.
- Original Message - From: "Ratheesh ravindranathan" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." 

Sent: 11 July, 2018 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for Fifa World Cup Commentary.



Hi sir,

You can listen it on talk sports. Unfortunately the broadcast is only 
available in UK. But there are some work arounds to overcome the Geo 
blocking. Since it may be against the rules of access India to discuss 
ait here I am not daring to mention it in this mail


Sent from my iPhone


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Hello,

Is there any radio or tv channel on the internet where I can listen to 
football world cup ohn my laptop or phone?


With best regards
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329



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Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment

[P. Subramani]

can't comment on your research,  most journals do not accept  papers on 
alternate medicine including ayurvedic, question of publishing doesn't 
arise.  Seems you  you too like most people are brainwashed by 
mainstream/western science. Just because something hasn't appeared in 
international publications the same cannot be recommended.  There are many 
practitioners of alternate medicines who have successfully cured many 
diseases which the mainstream science failed. Then you make an unbiased 
research paper disproving sreedhareeyam's claims and try to publish.   I can 
logically answer all your misgivings but unfortunately this is not the right 
list for that.
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From: "Dr. B. S. M. Kumar" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Sent: 10 July, 2018 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment


Dear Mr. Subramani,
Just do not generalize your statement. What do you know about research work.
I've spent over two decades of time on research and published over 20
articles on highly reputed international refreed journals, and it is not an
easy job to publish a research paper in top international refreed journals.
Also positive approach does not mean that one blindfoldly follow someone's
claim without any evidence. When Sreedairyam, is claiming that, they can
cure retinitis pigmentosa, then Why are they not publishing their research
findings and get approval from the relevant authorities.
I still firmly believe these claims are completely farse and will try to
persuade everyone not to fall prey to such false claims, and waste your hard
earned money in pursuit of a treatment, which is currently not available.
Kind regards,


Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.
Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish
Email: kumar@pstarfish.org
Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864
Twitter: @BSMKumar1
Cell: +91-9840139849
Skype: bsm.kumar
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shared service for business and start-ups"

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of P. Subramani
Sent: 10 July 2018 20:13
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment

first thing is most international journal publications are  fake. In the
end, it depends on the individual. I have a positive oppinion.  This can be
debated endlessly.
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From: "Dr. B. S. M. Kumar" 

To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning

the disabled.'" 
Sent: 09 July, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment


Hi Mr. Subramani,
Is there any scientific evidence for their course of treatment. Any
treatment has to be approved by medical board and scientific medical reports
has to be published in international refreed journals.
I still feel it is a waste of time, money on such un - recognized treatment
procedures.
I've already approached top ayurvedic/homeopathic doctors and they have also
confirmed that there is no cure for retinitis pigmentosa, and all these
claims are false claims and money making machines using the emotions of the
patients and their family.
Once again, I re-iterate my previous statement, which is, use your money and
time in empowering yourself with assistive technologies, for battling with
this disease.
Kind regards,


Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.
Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish
Email: kumar@pstarfish.org
Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of P. Subramani
Sent: 07 July 2018 16:50
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment

you need to undergo a minimum of 8 courses of intensive treatment for rp
cure at sreedhareeyam. By taking one time treatment, don't expect results.
Although its upto the individuals to opt for the treatment, I have seen the
patients who have been cured of their RP in their hospital. Ayurvedic
treatments are timetaking.
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From: "pratik shah" 

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the disabled." 
Sent: 05 July, 2018 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment



hello ,
I have undergone treatment there during May,2017. I have wasted my
time and money there. I am suffering from RP only. As suggested, there
is no treatment for it till 

Re: [AI] Looking for Fifa World Cup Commentary.

[P. Subramani]

I have listened to talk sports.  But their commentary is boring/dull and is 
behind by atleast 5 mins or more.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ratheesh ravindranathan" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 11 July, 2018 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for Fifa World Cup Commentary.



Hi sir,

You can listen it on talk sports. Unfortunately the broadcast is only 
available in UK. But there are some work arounds to overcome the Geo 
blocking. Since it may be against the rules of access India to discuss ait 
here I am not daring to mention it in this mail


Sent from my iPhone


On 10-Jul-2018, at 10:51 AM, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:

Hello,

Is there any radio or tv channel on the internet where I can listen to 
football world cup ohn my laptop or phone?


With best regards
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329



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Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment

[P. Subramani]

first thing is most international journal publications are  fake. In the 
end, it depends on the individual. I have a positive oppinion.  This can be 
debated endlessly.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dr. B. S. M. Kumar" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Sent: 09 July, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment


Hi Mr. Subramani,
Is there any scientific evidence for their course of treatment. Any
treatment has to be approved by medical board and scientific medical reports
has to be published in international refreed journals.
I still feel it is a waste of time, money on such un - recognized treatment
procedures.
I've already approached top ayurvedic/homeopathic doctors and they have also
confirmed that there is no cure for retinitis pigmentosa, and all these
claims are false claims and money making machines using the emotions of the
patients and their family.
Once again, I re-iterate my previous statement, which is, use your money and
time in empowering yourself with assistive technologies, for battling with
this disease.
Kind regards,


Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.
Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of P. Subramani
Sent: 07 July 2018 16:50
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment

you need to undergo a minimum of 8 courses of intensive treatment for rp
cure at sreedhareeyam. By taking one time treatment, don't expect results.
Although its upto the individuals to opt for the treatment, I have seen the
patients who have been cured of their RP in their hospital. Ayurvedic
treatments are timetaking.
- Original Message - 
From: "pratik shah" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled." 
Sent: 05 July, 2018 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment



hello ,
I have undergone treatment there during May,2017. I have wasted my
time and money there. I am suffering from RP only. As suggested, there
is no treatment for it till now in world. My mobile no. is 8347010528.

On 7/3/18, Mohit Gupta  wrote:

Dear friends,

If anyone having retinitis pigmentosa has taken treatment form
shreedhariyam eye hospital, please share their contact detail with me.
I would like to talk with them.

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Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment

[P. Subramani]

you need to undergo a minimum of 8 courses of intensive treatment for rp 
cure at sreedhareeyam. By taking one time treatment, don't expect results. 
Although its upto the individuals to opt for the treatment, I have seen the 
patients who have been cured of their RP in their hospital. Ayurvedic 
treatments are timetaking.
- Original Message - 
From: "pratik shah" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 05 July, 2018 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment



hello ,
I have undergone treatment there during May,2017. I have wasted my
time and money there. I am suffering from RP only. As suggested, there
is no treatment for it till now in world. My mobile no. is 8347010528.

On 7/3/18, Mohit Gupta  wrote:

Dear friends,

If anyone having retinitis pigmentosa has taken treatment form
shreedhariyam eye hospital, please share their contact detail with me.
I would like to talk with them.

--
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Mohit Gupta.
Rajasthan.




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[AI] planet abled experiences!

[P. Subramani]

Friends I would like to hear from those who have used the services of planet 
abled accessible travels.  This is because, I am planning visit manali and 
simla and hence I need a travel guide for these destinations.  With regards, P. 
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Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

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dear Prashant sir,  your tv model choice much higher in terms of cost which 
many may not afford.  However, I have selected  sony kdl43w800d costing 
about 60k in flipcart.  I request you and others learned members to advise 
whether  this particular tv is good enough for  us to work on in terms of 
specifications and features. Thanks and P. Subramani   - Original 
Message - 
From: "Prashant Ranjan Verma" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" ; "'list'" 
; "'sayeverything'" 

Sent: 14 June, 2018 8:54 PM
Subject: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home



Dear all,
I have been able to get a talking TV and more importantly get screen 
reader access to the list of channels and program guide of Tata Sky, one 
of the DTH service providers. This is how it became possible.
1. Purchased Sony Bravia Android TV. My TV model  number is Sony 
KD-49X7500E. I think other models in the Sony Bravia Android series should 
also work.
2. Activated Talkback on the TV. It required sighted assistance to go into 
the settings and accessibility option. After Talkback started, I have been 
able to use the TV menus and its Android OS independently with the remote 
control.
3. YouTube, Netflix and many other apps are pre-installed on the TV. I can 
search and play programs with the help of Talkback. This TV also has voice 
search function and it is very accurate. Amazon Prime video  app is not 
working with Talkback.
4. This TV has a feature which allows it to detect connected Tata Sky set 
top box. The Tata Sky can be operated with the TV remote, once setup there 
is no need to use the Tata Sky remote, you can do everything with the TV 
remote.
5. The TV has a pre-installed app called Program Guide. This app can be 
opened to see the Guide which lists the channels with current programs or 
one can also view list of programs by different genres. Talkback works 
properly here. One can browse through the list of channels and programs 
and select them to view.


Additionally now I have been able to connect my TV with Amazon Alexa. The 
Sony Bravia and Alexa support each other. Sony has a app on the TV and 
Alexa has the skill which need to be configured.
Now I can just ask Alexa to Switch On the TV, Volume up/mute, ask Alexa to 
put a channel number on the TV. Even switching channel name is supported. 
For example Alexa change channel to Times Now on TV. However, saying the 
name always does not work. This is probably also because there are so many 
similar channel names such as Colors, Colors HD, Colors HD plus etc. ,


I wish we get talking set top boxes soon. but for the time being I have a 
working solution in my home.


thanks,
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Re: [AI] Amazon devices RECORD your private conversations and surreptitiously send them to others

[P. Subramani]

people willingly accept others like amazon/google to share their privacy but 
cry foul over adar cards
- Original Message - 
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the disabled.'" 

Sent: 31 May, 2018 1:58 PM
Subject: [AI] Amazon devices RECORD your private conversations and 
surreptitiously send them to others



Amazon devices RECORD your private conversations and surreptitiously send 
them to others




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(Natural News)
In yet another example of how technology can at times work against our 
best interests, a family in Portland felt compelled to contact Amazon 
recently after

a
private conversation was recorded
by the voice-controlled smart speaker “Alexa” and subsequently sent out to 
a random person living in Seattle.




“My husband and I would joke and say I’d bet these devices are listening 
to what we’re saying,” explained Danielle, who did not want her last name 
disclosed.
She went on to describe an alarming phone call that she received from one 
of her husband’s employees in Seattle, who told her to “unplug your Alexa 
devices

right now” because “you’re being hacked.”



“We unplugged all of them and he proceeded to tell us he had received 
audio files of recordings from inside our house,” Danielle said. “At 
first, my husband
was, like, ‘no you didn’t!’ And the (recipient of the message) said ‘You 
sat there talking about hardwood floors.’ And we said, ‘oh gosh, you 
really did

hear us.’”



Danielle said that she felt that her privacy had been invaded, and that 
she’s no longer going to be using the Amazon Alexa device because she 
simply can’t

trust it any more. (Related:
Amazon has quietly decided to start photographing your home each time they 
make a delivery.)




When the local news station KIRO 7 reached out to Amazon for a response, 
the e-commerce giant issued the following statement: “Amazon takes privacy 
very
seriously. We investigated what happened and determined this was an 
extremely rare occurrence. We are taking steps to avoid this from 
happening in the

future.” (Related:
A new Amazon patent admits that it will listen in real-time for “trigger 
words” that could get you arrested and imprisoned.)




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Experts have warned of this possibility



Truthfully, stories similar to this one about the Amazon Alexa listening 
in on private conversations aren’t that rare; as a matter of fact, they 
seem to
be becoming increasingly common. Worse still, these recorded conversations 
could potentially end up in the wrong hands.




Last June, a security expert
issued a dire warning
to users of electronic assistants like the Amazon Alexa and the Google 
Echo, explaining that these devices could be hacked by criminals and used 
to steal

important and personal information.



According to cybersecurity expert Dr. Jason Nurse, even though the 
electronic assistant devices put out by Amazon all have an “activation” 
word (“hey Alexa,”
for example), hackers could potentially find a way to make it so that 
these devices are listening in on your

private conversations
around the clock. Once that is accomplished, all it would take is a quick 
sentence or two about your banking information – perhaps as you talk on 
the
phone with your financial advisor, for example – and the hacker could do a 
tremendous amount of damage to your livelihood and peace of mind.




In order to test if a security breach like this was truly possible, a
team of researchers
at the security firm Checkmarx began fiddling with the Amazon Alexa to see 
how easy it would be for a hacker to hack in. After just a few clever 
manipulations,
they were able to achieve their goal, thus proving that the warning made 
by Dr. Jason Nurse last June is entirely legitimate.




It would be wrong to say that devices like the Amazon Alexa and similar 
electronic assistants are entirely bad in nature. Indeed, they do make 
life much
more convenient and come with a number of neat features. However, if the 
future is going to include advanced technology like this, then companies 
like
Amazon are going to have to work harder than ever to ensure that the 
privacy and safety of their customers is not compromised. Read

PrivacyWatch.news
for more coverage.



Sources include:



KIRO7.com



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Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

[P. Subramani]

Well I have stayed in sreedareeyam hospital for treatment for 3 weeks 
without any sighteds' assistance.  Infact, we were 4 totally blind persons. 
No doctor/hospital authority insisted upon us to have sighteds' assistance. 
They were very cooperative towards us. Initially or on the first day, they 
brought  medicines and personnel to our room for treatment assuming that we 
blind wouldn't be  navigate independently to the designated treatment rooms. 
From the next day, we insisted that  they do not all these exercises and we 
ourselves went to the treatment rooms to get the treatment.  from then on, 
things were normal.   We used to go to the canteen on our own daily although 
room service was available at certain charges. During the free time, we 
roamed the  entire hospital and surroundings as well.  The nurses were also 
very accommodative. I do know Dr. Sri Kanth for a long time.  He  was one of 
the doctors treating us, but fortunately, there weren't any problems.   From 
your mail, it seems either your mobility  is not that good (no offense to 
you personally, just a general observation/probability) or the doctors have 
terribly misjudged.
- Original Message - 
From: "Poonam" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 09 May, 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant



Hi friends,
Last month, I was admitted into Sreedhareeyam Ayurvedic Hospital in Kochi. 
Before going, I had met the main doctor, Dr. Srikanth in the Sreedhareeyam 
clinic Bangalore and discussed plans about going to the hospital without 
an assistant. He suggested that I have an assistant for the first 3 days 
since I was new and then I could manage alone. So this is what I did. 
However, on the second last day before my assistant was due to leave, the 
doctors started saying it would not be possible for me to stay alone. The 
reason they gave me was that I did not have enough vision to manage. I had 
already arranged laundry, cafeteria services, etc and there was absolutely 
nothing I could not do alone. However, they still said no and I had to 
return.
Another Naturopathy hospital, Jindal also has continuously denied me 
treatment and finally agreed if I take the most expensive accomodation 
with an assistant.
I am writing this to ask any of you who know about the legal angle of 
denying a person with disability into a hospital/clinic without an 
assistant. I really do not need an assistant nor do I feel comfortable 
having one. Does the 2016 PWD Act have anything on this? The two hospitals 
are private, not government funded.
I plan to write to the NHAB (National Health Accreditation Board), the 
hospital authorities and some journalist friends. Any more suggestions are 
welcome.



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Re: [AI] router advise!

[P. Subramani]

thanks very much for your advise.
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] router advise!



no such router.
as far as i know
you can get a mi router 3c see this video that i made on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4A1_BLUkG4=13s
it has a feature by which you can disable wifi using webui or mobile app.
its for about 1200 has 4 antennas and gives fantastic rainge.

On 3/29/18, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am planning to purchase a new router and would like some advise. 
Anybody
knows about any wifi routers that have a button (or switch) to turn the 
wifi

signal off?




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[AI] router advise!

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I am planning to purchase a new router and would like some advise.   Anybody 
knows about any wifi routers that have a button (or switch) to turn the wifi 
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[AI] cooling pad advise.

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I am looking for a good cooling pad for my laptop hp omen 250tx 15 inches. 
laptop gets heated when certain games are played and also while I write 
programmings, specially it gets very heated when I run android studio.  please 
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Re: [AI] Fwd: {Disability Studies India} KarnatakaBudget disability updates: Can we know what other states offering?

[P. Subramani]

This is just an election gimic by state govt, if at all there was any good 
intention, the said measures shoud have been broughtout in the previous year 
budget.  As it stands, this govt will be voted,  hollow promises
- Original Message - 
From: "PAULMUDDHA" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" 

Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: {Disability Studies India} KarnatakaBudget disability 
updates: Can we know what other states offering?




I think the state government will keep up its promise to deliver goods.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of avinash shahi

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 4:26 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: {Disability Studies India} Karnataka Budget 
disability updates: Can we know what other states offering?


Uttar Pradesh 2018-19 Budget: I only came across one reference to
PWDs: Rs 575 crore for disability pension. And Rs 18167 crore for "sarva 
Siksha Abhiyan".


On 2/16/18, Kotian, H P  wrote:

Hi
The Karnataka budget is expected to be a mirage. It should have
essentially been a vote on account and not a full blown budget when
the tenure of this governemt is less than 2 months.

So whatever is promised, it may not see the light of day.

But we certainly should keep our eyes on other state budgets.

Harish.

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Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 3:26 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Fwd: {Disability Studies India} Karnataka Budget
disability
updates: Can we know what other states offering?

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From: avinash shahi 
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 15:24:28 +0530
Subject: {Disability Studies India} Karnataka Budget disability
updates: Can we know what other states offering?
To: disability-studies-india


Lets collate data from different states what they are offering this
year for persons with disabilities.
Uttar Pradesh and Karnataka CMs have presented 2018-19 budgets today.
Yogi had nothing to offer perhaps. Read what SitaRamaya promises.

CM announces an increase in monthly pension by ₹200 for those with
over 75 per cent disability and ₹100 for those with less than that.
The Government will
also set up four professional training centres on an experimental
basis to train mentally-challenged adults.

Government to provide 4 per cent reservation in group A and B posts
for persons with disabilities as per the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities Act, 2016.
The government has already reserved 5 % in group C and D posts, CM says.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/karnataka-budget-live-
updates/article22770207.ece?homepage=true

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Re: [AI] regarding metro services

[P. Subramani]

those travelling in metro should demand fare concession from the government. 
The fares are quite high.
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Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 4:31 PM
Subject: [AI] regarding metro services


dear friends, i wish to discus few important things, now a days metro 
train services are very useful fast and safe travelling. for V I P, some 
discription is essential for understanding of orientation and environment 
of particular station, because, each station is different structure. 
therefore, we need audio discription of the station, like: after entering 
station, to your left side tiket counter, further left side bag scanning 
machine, then take right turn walk 30 feet, then card/tiket entry point. 
this kind of explanation is needed. anybody can take vedio of the station, 
then sitting at home one can narate the map by seeing vedio. please 
circulate this mail to associations, volenteers. after completion of audio 
discription, they can upload to the youtube, or sending through whatsapp 
is very important. braille map, or tactile map is not advisable, because, 
this cannot reach immediately for needy people.

with best regards
m.chandru


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[AI] revised concession rail for.

[P. Subramani]

Friends, I need the latest rail concession for and proceedure to get the  
concession certificate.  Kindly advise. Thanks and regards,
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Re: [AI] Info about ITel phone required

[P. Subramani]

thats what I  have heard, it can read msgs while its being composed and also 
reads saving contacts which the earlier models didn't do, I would suggest 
ordering from flipcart for testing and if it doesn't work, then simply 
return
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Info about ITel phone required


Does it have the ability to read the outgoing messages as well Mr 
Subramani?
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 From: P. Subramani
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concerning the disabled.

 Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Info about ITel phone required


 the best one is 7100, reads msgs/contacts, etc., which the earlier models
 couldn't read.  available on flipcart, the best thing about online 
purchase

 is its return/replacement policy.  Usually,  I order onlone and test the
 same.  if not satisfied, I return the same.  More often than not, most
 vendors if not all are ignorant about our requirements in this case the
 kings voice
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 From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

 the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
 Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 6:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Info about ITel phone required


 > Another one is 5622.
 >  - Original Message - 
 >  From: Rahul Kelapure

 >  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 > concerning the disabled.
 >  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:13 PM
 >  Subject: Re: [AI] Info about ITel phone required
 >
 >
 >  One model I remember is 5263
 >
 >  Your question is perfectly relevant however, I suggest you buy it from
 >  the shop as the price is almost the same and its easyly available in
 >  stores.
 >
 >
 >
 >  On 11/28/17, Sandeep Singh <sandeepsingh...@gmail.com> wrote:
 >  > Thanks Rahul. And yes, Sarvanan's question is quite relevant, what 
in

 >  > case of online purchase.
 >  > Best regards,
 >  > Sandeep
 >  >
 >  > On 11/28/17, Saravanan <sarva...@greytip.com> wrote:
 >  >> Dear friend,
 >  >>
 >  >>
 >  >> In case on online purchase, How to know the details of getting it
 >  >>
 >  >>
 >  >>
 >  >>
 >  >> On 11/28/2017 11:21 AM, Rahul Kelapure wrote:
 >  >>> Hi, there are multiple models which has voice feed-back in Itel
 > phones.
 >  >>>
 >  >>> You need to ask the vendor to show you the model with King Voice. 
It

 >  >>> is promenently mentioned on the box.
 >  >>>
 >  >>> Trust that helps.
 >  >>>
 >  >>> Thanks and warm regards,
 >  >>>
 >  >>> Rahul.
 >  >>>
 >  >>> On 11/26/17, Sandeep Singh <sandeepsingh...@gmail.com> wrote:
 >  >>>> Hello friends,
 >  >>>> Someone on the list had mentioned about ITel phone with key pad 
and

 >  >>>> inbuilt talking software. Could I have the exact model number
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Re: [AI] Info about ITel phone required

[P. Subramani]

the best one is 7100, reads msgs/contacts, etc., which the earlier models 
couldn't read.  available on flipcart, the best thing about online purchase 
is its return/replacement policy.  Usually,  I order onlone and test the 
same.  if not satisfied, I return the same.  More often than not, most 
vendors if not all are ignorant about our requirements in this case the 
kings voice
- Original Message - 
From: "Vikas Kapoor" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Info about ITel phone required



Another one is 5622.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rahul Kelapure
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.

 Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Info about ITel phone required


 One model I remember is 5263

 Your question is perfectly relevant however, I suggest you buy it from
 the shop as the price is almost the same and its easyly available in
 stores.



 On 11/28/17, Sandeep Singh  wrote:
 > Thanks Rahul. And yes, Sarvanan's question is quite relevant, what in
 > case of online purchase.
 > Best regards,
 > Sandeep
 >
 > On 11/28/17, Saravanan  wrote:
 >> Dear friend,
 >>
 >>
 >> In case on online purchase, How to know the details of getting it
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> On 11/28/2017 11:21 AM, Rahul Kelapure wrote:
 >>> Hi, there are multiple models which has voice feed-back in Itel 
phones.

 >>>
 >>> You need to ask the vendor to show you the model with King Voice. It
 >>> is promenently mentioned on the box.
 >>>
 >>> Trust that helps.
 >>>
 >>> Thanks and warm regards,
 >>>
 >>> Rahul.
 >>>
 >>> On 11/26/17, Sandeep Singh  wrote:
  Hello friends,
  Someone on the list had mentioned about ITel phone with key pad and
  inbuilt talking software. Could I have the exact model number 
please?

  Thanking you in anticipation.
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Re: [AI] Problem in installing Jaws demo 18 32 version on windows 7

[P. Subramani]

I had this problem inwin 10 wherein I couldn't instal j18, I accidentally 
turned off windows security, then I was able to instal jaws

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Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem in installing Jaws demo 18 32 version on windows 7


I've also witnessed some computers with both windows 7 and 10 where JAWS 
18 cannot be installed. I suppose it has to do with some particular 
updates. I've got 2 computers with me and both of them with windows 7 
32bit, in one, I can install JAWS 18 where in the other one, I'm not . The 
most pathetic part is that errors are not very specific.
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 Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 3:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Problem in installing Jaws demo 18 32 version on 
windows 7



 Hi,


 I have Jaws 18 installed on my Windows7 32 Bit. Still, would request you
 to double check your operating system version.


 Best,
 Satguru Rathi.
 On 8/24/2017 2:59 PM, Chandrashekhar Kulkarni wrote:
 > Dear List  member,
 > I am very much sure I have windows 7 with 32 bit. I could not install
 > Jaws 18 but I could install Jaws 15 32 bit. But I don't understand the
 > reason. Can we not install Jaws 18 on Windows 7?
 > Sincerely,
 > C. B. Kulkarni
 >
 > On 24/08/2017, Satguru Rathi  wrote:
 >> Hi,
 >>
 >>
 >> Are you pretty much sure that you have installed the 32 Bit version of
 >> the Windows OS? the error you specified suggests that you are not
 >> installing the appropriate version. Please first check your OS version
 >> whether it is 32Bit or 64Bit and accordingly download the Jaws 
version.

 >> To check your OS version, use Windows+Pause key.
 >>
 >>
 >> Best,
 >> Satguru.
 >>
 >> On 8/24/2017 1:52 PM, Chandrashekhar Kulkarni wrote:
 >>> Dear all,
 >>> I have downloaded jaws 18 32 bit from freedomscientific website. But
 >>> when I go to install it shows error,  component runtime cannot be
 >>> installed. Please help  in solving this problem.
 >>> Sincerely,
 >>> C. B. Kulkarni
 >>>
 >> --
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Re: [AI] Escort facility related circular needed for Central government/PSU/PSB Physically Challenged Employees

[P. Subramani]

very difficult to meet the laid down conditions,  nobody would certify a 
blind person that he/she cannot travel without assistance/escort, moreover, 
thelocal/field office  must express their inability to provide 
assistance/escort

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Subject: Re: [AI] Escort facility related circular needed for Central 
government/PSU/PSB Physically Challenged Employees




It is there, and I have sent to Himanshu too.

But it lays so many conditions and ultimately leaves to the discretion of 
HoD.

So, you can say it is not there.


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Behalf Of Saji Mathews

Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 10:47 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Cc: vib-india
Subject: Re: [AI] Escort facility related circular needed for Central 
government/PSU/PSB Physically Challenged Employees


Himanshu:

I am not aware of any such circular by DOPT.  However, if anyone is in
the knowledge of the same, may kindly share please.

I remember the circular issued for the person with blindness (staffs)
travelling officially  are allowed the choice of the escort in NIVH.
However, this was issued by the NIVH EC earlier for facilitating the
requirement for the employees of NIVH.

SAJI☺



On 8/7/17, Himanshu Sahu  wrote:

Dear All,
My bank (Allahabad Bank) is contemplating to provide facility to its
physically challenged employees for allowing their own escort  and
bear associated cost thereof while sending them out of their posting
place for discharging their official duties/training.
In this regard I am asked to share any central government's/PSU/PSB's
circular providing similar facility for a reference point.

I'll be thankful if You can share any circular of such nature ASAP.




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Re: [AI] Tutorial on google maps application for android users

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link is absolutely working!
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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Tutorial on google maps application for android users



Dear payal,


The link you provided is not working.

Pls. check and provide an alternative one.


Thanks

Saravanan.K




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Re: [AI] Ht Report: Number of blind to come down by 4m as India set to change blindness definition

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this should be a welcome step, trouble for low vision and pseudo-blinds who 
managed to get fake certificates,  hopefully,  after revising the 
parameters, the real blind would probably get the  due benefits reserved for 
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Subject: [AI] Ht Report: Number of blind to come down by 4m as India set to 
change blindness definition




The government is set to change a four-decade-old definition of
blindness to bring it in line with the WHO criteria and ensure the
Indian data on blindness
meets the global estimates. The change in definition will bring down
the number of blind persons by 4 million in India.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-to-change-definition-of-blindness-reduce-number-of-blind-by-4-million/story-HxHKeH3XpfPBEtSr2moerO.html
The
World Health Organisation
(WHO) defines blindness as visual sharpness of less than 3/60, or a
corresponding visual field loss to less than 10 degrees in the better
eye, even with
the best possible spectacle correction.

The
National Programme for Control of Blindness
(NPCB) in India, on the other hand, defines blindness as vision of
6/60 or less and a visual field loss of 20 degrees or less in the
better eye, after
spectacle correction.

This means a person unable to count fingers from a distance of six
metres is categorised as “blind” in India, against the WHO’s
stipulation of three metres.

“With the NPCB definition, we will be addressing an extra 4 million
individuals, blind due to refractive errors. By adopting the blindness
criteria of
the WHO, India can achieve the Vision 2020 goal,” said Dr Praveen
Vashist, in-charge of community ophthalmology at Dr RP Centre for
Ophthalmic Sciences
at AIIMS.

Under Vision 2020, India has to reduce the prevalence of blindness to
0.3% of the total population.

India projects a higher number of blind people at international forums
because of its definition. India currently has around 12 million blind
people against
39 million globally -- which makes India home to one-third of the
world’s blind population.

“We will bring the definition of blindness at par with the WHO’s
criteria. Because of the current definition, we project a higher
figure of blind people
from India at any international forum. Thus India gets presented in a
poor light compared to other countries,” said NPCB deputy director
general Promila
Gupta.

Also, she said, the data “we generate under the programme cannot be
compared with the global estimates as other countries are following
the WHO criteria”.

Uniformity in the definition across various regions of the world is a
pre-requisite for facilitating collection of population-based data on
prevalence
of blindness and estimating its global burden, Gupta said.

The health ministry is also planning to change the nomenclature of
NPCB to the National Programme for Control of Visual Impairment and
Blindness.

“The idea is to further strengthen the programme by focusing not only
on the blind persons but also those with some kind of visual
impairment,” Gupta added.

(With agency inputs)

--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU

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Re: [AI] : ncert books for 8th in accessible format

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I need the link to download ncert 10th std books, kindly provide the right 
link

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Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:21 PM
Subject: [AI] : ncert books for 8th in accessible format



please mail me at nonubhat2...@gmail.com or anjinabhat1...@gmail.com

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Hello Rajesh, if you don't mind, please mail those books  to me as well.
Awating your positive response, yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Dear Anjina

I have them.
Science social science and maths.
Shall I mail, or you have already got them.


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Dear All
Greetings!!!

I am looking for ncert books in english medium for 8th class in 
accessible

format
If any one has , please share
Thanks and Regards
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Re: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series

[P. Subramani]

you can listen to commentary  of west indies cricket from class radion from 
jamaica by googling it.  Usually, I don't listen to radio through various 
apps, I directly paste the links to the browsers.  Using various apps 
consumes lots of space/data.

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thanks p subharmani, could you also please suggest which chennel gives
cricket commentry on radio in west indies also provide the link. one
more thing, which app is better to install to listen these radio
stations currently I am using simple radio app to listen these
stations.  or should I directly paste the link in the browser,
listening by  specific app would consume more data or listening by
pasting the link in the brouser would consume more data please
suggest. I generally listen through my smart phone.

sanjeev kumar

mob

9354254057

8168532385

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here you go for nz vs sa  commentary:


http://www.surfmusic.de/radio-station/radio-2000-fm-sabc,15924.html
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Subject: Re: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series



very nice commentry   p sudramani and the standard is great. I liked
it very much. it is much better than air commentry. could you please
provide online radio link of commentry between southafrica and
newziland testmatch starting from 8th march from 3.30 a.m.

On 3/4/17, Geetha Shamanna <geethas2...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for this. It is however a general sports channel with very 
little

cricket.
Any live uninterrupted broadcasts online?

Thanks.
Geetha

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Subject: Re: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series

use the given link for abc commentary, if  clicking doesn't work, copy
and
paste the link to the browser.



http://www.surfmusic.de/radio-station/abc-grandstand-australia,16393.html

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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 11:14 PM
Subject: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series



Hi all,



Is live commentary of the second test available online? If so, please
share
the link.

I used to rely on webcric.com, but that site appears to be defunct 
now.

Any
alternatives?



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Re: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series

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here you go for nz vs sa  commentary:


http://www.surfmusic.de/radio-station/radio-2000-fm-sabc,15924.html
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series



very nice commentry   p sudramani and the standard is great. I liked
it very much. it is much better than air commentry. could you please
provide online radio link of commentry between southafrica and
newziland testmatch starting from 8th march from 3.30 a.m.

On 3/4/17, Geetha Shamanna <geethas2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for this. It is however a general sports channel with very little
cricket.
Any live uninterrupted broadcasts online?

Thanks.
Geetha

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Sent: 04 March 2017 06:39
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and issues concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series

use the given link for abc commentary, if  clicking doesn't work, copy 
and

paste the link to the browser.



http://www.surfmusic.de/radio-station/abc-grandstand-australia,16393.html

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Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 11:14 PM
Subject: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series



Hi all,



Is live commentary of the second test available online? If so, please
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the link.

I used to rely on webcric.com, but that site appears to be defunct now.
Any
alternatives?



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Re: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series

[P. Subramani]

use the given link for abc commentary, if  clicking doesn't work, copy and 
paste the link to the browser.




http://www.surfmusic.de/radio-station/abc-grandstand-australia,16393.html

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the disabled.'" 

Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 11:14 PM
Subject: [AI] Live coverage of the India-Australia series



Hi all,



Is live commentary of the second test available online? If so, please 
share

the link.

I used to rely on webcric.com, but that site appears to be defunct now. 
Any

alternatives?



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Re: [AI] how academic jobs screen out disabled people.

[P. Subramani]

This is very  apt article for those who always propagated that 
discriminations of all natures happens only in india and look up on USA and 
the west for equality, opportunity, etc., in the end, discrimination is 
everywhere,  only thing being  the substance is same but the form is 
different, disabled persons in USA are also discriminated regarding  minimum 
wages

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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] how academic jobs screen out disabled people.



interesting insight this is. while not looking at the legal
implications of this, the sheer ridiculous nature of qualifications
make me both laugh and cry at the same time.
i'm waiting for that illusive light at the end of the never ending tunnel!

On 2/16/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:

this article talks about the situation in the US, but it is no
different from the 1 we face here in India. the application form at
JNU also demanded that we go through the whole process of acquiring a
new disability certificate in a format prescribed by the MHRD i think,
which required the ophthalmologist to fill out details about whether i
can wiggle my fingers, bend-over, and lift weights: abilities that
make a true Professor/ academician!
:-)


article:

how academic jobs screen out disabled people.

Nearly every academic job listing claims not to discriminate based on
disability. A lot of them still do.

By David M. Perry

Every faculty job advertisement at Holy Cross College at Notre Dame,
Indiana, comes with this statement:

block quote
Physical Demands
block quote end
block quote
Repetitive movement of hands and fingers — typing and/or writing;
occasional standing, walking, stooping, kneeling or crouching;
reaching with hands and
arms; talking and hearing.
block quote end
block quote
Ability to lift and carry up to 20 lbs.
block quote end
block quote
NOTE: The above statements are intended to describe the general nature
and level of work being performed by the person assigned to this job.
They are not
intended to be an exhaustive list of all responsibilities, duties,
skills, and physical demands required of personnel so classified….
Holy Cross College
is an equal opportunity employer. All employment decisions are based
on qualifications and are made without regard to race, color, national
origin, age,
sex, disability, or any other legally protected status.
block quote end

Holy Cross College seems like a nice, co-educational Catholic school
in one of the great college towns in America. There’s no reason to
think the school’s
administrators are particularly ableist or interested in
discriminating against people with disabilities. But Holy Cross—like
dozens of other institutions
of higher education across the country — keeps appending these clauses
to job ads. Imagine if you were deaf or in a wheelchair and wanted to
apply, then
read that “walking, talking and hearing” were required. Would you even
finish the application?

block quote
These job ads send a different message: “Be normal or you can’t have
this job!”
block quote end

Despite the note appended to the end, echoing language in accordance
with the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission, this statement is
arguably discriminatory.
The practice, however, is common. If you go to HigherEdJobs.com and 
search

for “
25 pounds
,” you’ll find 654 entries right now that require various degrees of
physical ability, often accompanied by other statements mandating
“normal” modes of
communication. Some of these positions are in jobs like nursing, where
required lifting might be entirely reasonable, albeit still subject to
laws around
reasonable accommodation under the Americans With Disabilities Act.
Others, like all the jobs at Hood College, Maryland,
routinely repeat a boilerplate set of physical demands
 that do not seem remotely relevant to the job—though Hood’s at least
uses the hedge-word “may” and explicitly talks about accommodations.

At least when taken to the extreme, as Holy Cross seems to do, the
practice is problematic. I’ve been writing about and tracking such
clauses in higher
education job ads for a year, and expert after expert — including
legal counsel at the EEOC — agrees. Human resource directors cannot
just pile up physical
demands that are not linked to the core requirements of the job.
Roofers need to climb ladders. Truckers need to drive. Professors need
to teach, an act
that generally requires neither walking, stooping, kneeling, or
carrying—or, for that matter, oral speaking or aural listening.

Don’t Look to the Movies to Learn About Disability The next time you
meet a disabled person, throw the films you’ve watched about them out
the window and
discuss film…psmag.com

Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt segment

[P. Subramani]

after exhausting with writing to higher authorities and others, the fact 
remains in most cases, they too take the side of the sighteds,  obviously we 
do get  not more than 2 heads or superiors who are troublesome in our entire 
service, but for this, most of our service is spent rather satisfactorily 
and without much botheration

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From: "B. R. Nautial" <brnaut...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt segment


If someone is trying to hurt you in a different way, its better to give 
complain to the higher athority in writing but no need to fight with these 
kind's of people. I am sure! once you give him a strong signal, in future, 
he'll be more cautious about you.
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From: "P. Subramani" <subramani6...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: 5 February, 2017 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt segment


leave is not the right of employees, head can refuse leave under the garb 
of discretionary powers,  leave can be refused only under exigencies, 
however, I suggest you to go commuted leave with medical certificate, 
unfortunately, most higherups and in offices are deliberately 
obstruct/deny the rights of disabled under obscure rules or the at the 
maximum they come up with the threat of disciplinary action on fake 
grounds of  behaviour or otherwise.

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Mob:  9738150192
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From: "sazid shaik" <ashwaqahmed@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt 
segment




Dear list,
I think so i had not kept my question properly.  Yes we are entitled
with 10+4 Cl for central govt servants.  My concern is that if I apply
a leave is there  is any circular which states that a disabled should
give priority for sanction him/her a leave.
Why should not me priority for a disabled?  when we are getting
concessions and reservation in the name of disability.  in ground
reality let me tell you common misconception which normal people have
that a blind cannot enjoy a holiday, when i am constructing my house
when i ask leave at the time of roof is building with concrete at that
time my presence is important at that time my supervisor asks being a
blind what will you do?  there are many factors which involves for
seeking priority in leave  mostly our blind are not having mobility
skills.  they need escorts while going outside based on the
availability of escort we have to keep leave.  another things i was
not given leave for 3 consistence 3 holidays of our holy festivals.

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 2/3/17, PAULMUDDHA <paulmud...@canarabank.com> wrote:

10 + 4 total 14 days.
But mind you that leave is given if you get a certificate from a 
recognized

Ngo or state or central sponsored programmes.
Regards
Paul

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:21 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt 
segment


Well, I am sick of so-called inclusion.
Disability is a material ground to be taken into account for all 
purposes

of
life.

Anyway, priority or not, disability leave 10+04 does exist in 
government

departments including railways.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of li...@srinivasu.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:31 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt 
segment


In the era where we are all insisting for inclusion, I do not see why 
such
priority should be given on the grounds of disability... priority 
should be
given as per regular norms or rules. Also, I'm not sure how priority 
comes

into picture as leave is personal entitlement for every individual.

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone

On 01-Feb-2017, at 18:43, sazid shaik <ashwaqahmed@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Dear list,
Is there any circular which tells that if a disabled should be given
priorit

Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

[P. Subramani]

another aspect  for discouraging marriage  between 2 disabled persons is 
more to do with genetics, the chances of having offsprings with disabilities 
is quite high, although close-relation marriages are also the causes of 
offspring with disabilities.  In my experience, less than  one percent of 
such couples lead an independent life without depending on others for 
cooking, household work, etc.  I do feel some strong reactions would be 
expected to my mail, but lets not be  hypocratical, most blind/disabled 
have non-disabled partner.

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From: "Dinesh Kaushal" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners



Well, independent living skills and attitudes are interrelated.

Family members would be opposed due to 2 factors. 1. Due to genuine 
concern that whether a couple with same disability would be able to manage 
or not. 2. Due to another valid concern that a disabled couple might start 
depending on them for their daily needs.


Unless people with disabilities become independent, they cannot hope to be 
able to make decisions for their life. Well, there is another problem 
which I cannot address here, that Indian parents often do not allow their 
children to make their decision anyways.


The most important skill is mobility skill. For example, it is not 
blindness that prevents blind persons to be able to independently move 
around, but it is lack of training in mobility and orientation skills. 
During my student life, my parents didn't allow me to travel alone, but 
that limited my skill development in independent living. Once I realized 
it is not going to work out, I had to insist that I will travel alone. If 
I didn't take that step, later my parents would have thought that I would 
not able to manage on my own. I have seen too many examples of blind 
persons depending on others for mobility. It is ok to ask for directions 
or assistance for new places, but if you need assistance for the same 
place for years or months, then you need to think whether you have made 
enough effort to become independent. It is important to note that we often 
ask what society does for us without pausing to reflect how much we limit 
ourselves without challenging our own limitations. While I am on the topic 
of independent mobility I would also caution reckless behavior. For 
example trying to cross a busy road might not be a wise idea. Often I had 
to wait for 10 or 15 minutes near my college as the traffic was too heavy.


Another very important skill is how to seek help. For new places, you 
cannot always go with someone whom you trust. So it is important that you 
feel ok to ask for help. It is also important to have confidence that you 
will manage when you face the problem. I remember when I started to travel 
independently, I tried to think all possible problems that I would face. 
But this paralyzed me and I would avoid to go out. but when I decided to 
take things as they come, I felt easy to start and after solving some 
challenges I got more confidence that I can travel alone.


I still face challenges, but they are no longer a significant one to 
prevent me in dealing with daily life issues.


I can't say too much about cooking as my skills are limited to heating up 
food and occasionally making things such as Maggie. But I know my friends 
Payal Kapoor, Veena  Mehta and Pranay Gadodia, and my wife Madhu Bala 
Sharma who are able to cook as good as any sighted person. So I can 
conclude that cooking is not a problem of blindness, though  it could be a 
good excuse if you don't want to do it.


If you can afford, cooking can also be managed by hiring someone to do it 
for you.


At the end if you can demonstrate that you can manage with or without paid 
or unpaid help, your family members would trust you. While we are on the 
issue of help, remember you need to have broad set of people whom you can 
depend for help. Like you, everyone else also has their own life so  don't 
expect people to help you all the time.


At the end, action speaks louder than words, so if you can demonstrate 
that you can live independently, you have better chance of convincing your 
parents.




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of avinash shahi

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 11:10 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 

Subject: Re: [AI] Marriage and issues of same disability partners

Realistic solutions aminate from experience. Families will have to be
convinced to accept the couple and things will be normal within weeks
and months. One 

Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt segment

[P. Subramani]

leave is not the right of employees, head can refuse leave under the garb of 
discretionary powers,  leave can be refused only under exigencies,  however, 
I suggest you to go commuted leave with medical certificate, 
unfortunately, most higherups and in offices are deliberately obstruct/deny 
the rights of disabled under obscure rules or the at the maximum they come 
up with the threat of disciplinary action on fake grounds of  behaviour or 
otherwise.

E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
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- Original Message - 
From: "sazid shaik" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt segment



Dear list,
I think so i had not kept my question properly.  Yes we are entitled
with 10+4 Cl for central govt servants.  My concern is that if I apply
a leave is there  is any circular which states that a disabled should
give priority for sanction him/her a leave.
Why should not me priority for a disabled?  when we are getting
concessions and reservation in the name of disability.  in ground
reality let me tell you common misconception which normal people have
that a blind cannot enjoy a holiday, when i am constructing my house
when i ask leave at the time of roof is building with concrete at that
time my presence is important at that time my supervisor asks being a
blind what will you do?  there are many factors which involves for
seeking priority in leave  mostly our blind are not having mobility
skills.  they need escorts while going outside based on the
availability of escort we have to keep leave.  another things i was
not given leave for 3 consistence 3 holidays of our holy festivals.

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 2/3/17, PAULMUDDHA  wrote:

10 + 4 total 14 days.
But mind you that leave is given if you get a certificate from a 
recognized

Ngo or state or central sponsored programmes.
Regards
Paul

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:21 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt 
segment


Well, I am sick of so-called inclusion.
Disability is a material ground to be taken into account for all purposes
of
life.

Anyway, priority or not, disability leave 10+04 does exist in government
departments including railways.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of li...@srinivasu.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 10:31 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] any priority in leave if a disabled asks in govt 
segment


In the era where we are all insisting for inclusion, I do not see why 
such
priority should be given on the grounds of disability... priority should 
be
given as per regular norms or rules. Also, I'm not sure how priority 
comes

into picture as leave is personal entitlement for every individual.

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone


On 01-Feb-2017, at 18:43, sazid shaik  wrote:

Dear list,
Is there any circular which tells that if a disabled should be given
priority in leave if he/she asks.  especially in railway department.
please share with me.  it is little bit urgent.

thanks and regards,
sazid


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[AI] Is self realization a quantum phenomenon

[P. Subramani]

Friends, I am unable to read the article from the below link using jaws 18 in 
pc with win 7 ultimate 32 bit.  After opening below given link, jaws makes some 
noices but no words are read.  I request the learnt to help me in this regard.  
Thanks and regards,

https://www.pressreader.com

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Re: [AI] Complaint

[P. Subramani]

Its not as simple  as that,  Modi has already warned  cg employees not send 
their grievances to directly to PMO and the same  must be sent through 
proper channel.  Effectively, through proper channel means the complaint 
wouldn't reach PMO by any stretch of imagination.  Moreover, there will be 
certain laws   which requires us to take prior permission of 
office/department to launch complaints against the  organisation  with 
outside agencies.Even though, we are on  right side of the matter,  you 
know whats happening to the BSF man who complained about food problem.  Our 
system is that instead of fixing the problem, they fix the blame.

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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Complaint



Hi Saravanan and my other AII friends
Why Don't u take this subject at the national level?
In this era of technology why r u all discussing among only yourself!
Just download Namo app, Narendramodi app or PMO app on your Android
device and send your complain directly to the Prime Minister of the
Nation! He will definitely resolve it
Else you may directly contact to the Social and Empowerment Minister
of the centre Mr. Thabadchand Gehlot by mailing him, what'sapp him or
simply writing to his official address!
Cheers:
RD

On 1/9/17, anjali Anand <anjaliana...@gmail.com> wrote:

sorry to  hear that. can i help?

but friends we have  already tolerated so much in the past.  now we
can expect some safe place through judicial intervention, intellectual
papers and media reports and  campaigns.

lets join together and never be  embarassed to talk about ourselves
and our rights.
be inspired by sc st  communities who have made it so far.



On 1/7/17, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:

Even in my office, recently, I have been subjected to discrimination and
when I resisted it, I have been slapped with violation of CCS rules of 
bad
behaviour by our director & Head.   So in the end, despite some 
beneficial

laws, nothing will change.  We are always back at square 1.
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Complaint



Madam, how much effect will be in favour of disabled employees because
whenever there is mischief done to disabled employees in office nobody
favours disabled persons instead sighted people favour sighted people,
I have seen many instances.

On 1/5/17, anjali Anand <anjaliana...@gmail.com> wrote:

friend, I'm  pasting the provision from new act for your  information
6. (1) The appropriate Government shall take measures to protect 
persons

with
disabilities from being subjected to torture, cruel, inhuman or
degrading treatment.

7. (1) The appropriate Government shall take measures to protect 
persons

with
disabilities from all forms of abuse, violence and exploitation and to
prevent the same,
shall—
(a) take cognizance of incidents of abuse, violence and exploitation 
and

provide
legal remedies available against such incidents;
(b) take steps for avoiding such incidents and prescribe the procedure
for
its
reporting;
(c) take steps to rescue, protect and rehabilitate victims of such
incidents; and
(d) create awareness and make available information among the public.
(2) Any person or registered organisation who or which has reason to
believe that an
act of abuse, violence or exploitation has been, or is being, or is
likely to be committed
against any person with disability, may give information about it to
the Executive Magistrate
within the local limits of whose jurisdiction such incidents occur.
(3) The Executive Magistrate on receipt of such information, shall
take immediate
steps to stop or prevent its occurrence, as the case may be, or pass
such order as he deems
fit for the protection of such person with disability including an
order—
(a) to rescue the victim of such act, authorising the police or any
organisation
working for persons with disabilities to provide for the safe custody
or rehabilitation
of such person, or both, as the case may be;
(b) for providing protective custody to the person with disability, if
such person
so desires;
(c) to provide maintenance to such person with disability.
(4) Any police officer who receives a complaint or otherwise comes to
know of abuse,
violence or exploitation towards any person with disability shall
inform the aggrieved person
of—
(a) his or her ri

[AI] banking exam material

[P. Subramani]

Friends, I am in need for banking exam material to  the various  bank exams.  
Anyone having may pls send the same to me.  Thanks and regards, P. Subramani
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Re: [AI] I write an Op-Ed in The Hindu today: Excluded from financial inclusion

[P. Subramani]

In bangalore atleast, most if not all blinds are allowed free passage to 
banks without having to stand in  line either for note exchange or 
withdrawal.

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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] I write an Op-Ed in The Hindu today: Excluded from 
financial inclusion




SBI is notoriously ubiquitous  in everything.
Name anything, and it is in SBI and it is not in SBI.

I was asked to submit xerox copy of my ID proof to deposit demonetized 
notes in my KYC compliant account after standing in a queue for half an 
hour.



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Behalf Of Vamshi. G

Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:21 PM
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] I write an Op-Ed in The Hindu today: Excluded from 
financial inclusion


This training is happening in SBI.  Even in case of demonetisation,
SBI made an announcement in the internal site to arrange for
comfortable service to disabled.


On 12/28/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

100% agree with you Avinash, I think a special module on dealing with
customers with disabilities must be introduced in every bank's
quarterly/ anual training program. It can make each and every employee
aware about the relevant RBI as well as web accessibility guidelines.
I got to know that same is in process for RBS employees working with
the retail business. What do you say?

Regards,
Ajay

On 12/28/16, avinash shahi  wrote:

You are lucky sir. I know many instances in Delhi what to talk of the
rest of the country, blind people are still denied ATMs cards despite
of the fact that in those branches blind people work as employees.

On 12/28/16, Srinivasu Chakravarthula  wrote:

Good write-up, Avinash; except that (I know situation may be different
at
some places) at least those branches I have visited SBI, HDFC, Andhra
Bank
- I have noticed that they are indeed helping people with disabilities,
elderly to exchange notes and withdrawing notes. In fact, in one of the
SBI
branches (Kaggadasapura, Bangalore) where bank is located in 1st floor
and
ground floor they have locker operations, they have arranged to
facilitate
elderly and people with disabilities at ground floor itself.

Thanks for sharing.

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica
Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka
Branch

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:07 AM, avinash shahi

wrote:


Dear All, Your comments are welcome.
I'd be happy and article will serve its purpose if friends working in
various banks can share this piece with the top management in their
banks. It would be even better if some of you can tweet this piece to
the Finance Ministry twitter handle.

Despite the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) repeatedly issuing circulars
to all scheduled commercial banks across the country to provide
banking facilities to customers with disabilities at a par with
non-disabled people, the majority of disabled people continue to be
inconvenienced by the banks. The situation is especially grim in rural
areas particularly post-demonetization.
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/Excluded-from-financial-inclusion/
article16950468.ece
--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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Re: [AI] Complaint

[P. Subramani]

Even in my office, recently, I have been subjected to discrimination and 
when I resisted it, I have been slapped with violation of CCS rules of bad 
behaviour by our director & Head.   So in the end, despite some beneficial 
laws, nothing will change.  We are always back at square 1.

E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
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- Original Message - 
From: "vivek doddamani" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Complaint



Madam, how much effect will be in favour of disabled employees because
whenever there is mischief done to disabled employees in office nobody
favours disabled persons instead sighted people favour sighted people,
I have seen many instances.

On 1/5/17, anjali Anand  wrote:

friend, I'm  pasting the provision from new act for your  information
6. (1) The appropriate Government shall take measures to protect persons
with
disabilities from being subjected to torture, cruel, inhuman or
degrading treatment.

7. (1) The appropriate Government shall take measures to protect persons
with
disabilities from all forms of abuse, violence and exploitation and to
prevent the same,
shall—
(a) take cognizance of incidents of abuse, violence and exploitation and
provide
legal remedies available against such incidents;
(b) take steps for avoiding such incidents and prescribe the procedure 
for

its
reporting;
(c) take steps to rescue, protect and rehabilitate victims of such
incidents; and
(d) create awareness and make available information among the public.
(2) Any person or registered organisation who or which has reason to
believe that an
act of abuse, violence or exploitation has been, or is being, or is
likely to be committed
against any person with disability, may give information about it to
the Executive Magistrate
within the local limits of whose jurisdiction such incidents occur.
(3) The Executive Magistrate on receipt of such information, shall
take immediate
steps to stop or prevent its occurrence, as the case may be, or pass
such order as he deems
fit for the protection of such person with disability including an order—
(a) to rescue the victim of such act, authorising the police or any
organisation
working for persons with disabilities to provide for the safe custody
or rehabilitation
of such person, or both, as the case may be;
(b) for providing protective custody to the person with disability, if
such person
so desires;
(c) to provide maintenance to such person with disability.
(4) Any police officer who receives a complaint or otherwise comes to
know of abuse,
violence or exploitation towards any person with disability shall
inform the aggrieved person
of—
(a) his or her right to apply for protection under sub-section (2) and
the particulars
of the Executive Magistrate having jurisdiction to provide assistance;
(b) the particulars of the nearest organisation or institution working 
for

the
rehabilitation of persons with disabilities;
(c) the right to free legal aid; and
(d) the right to file a complaint under the provisions of this Act or
any other law
dealing with such offence:
Provided that nothing in this section shall be construed in any manner
as to relieve
the police officer from his duty to proceed in accordance with law
upon receipt of information
as to the commission of a cognizable offence.
(5) If the Executive Magistrate finds that the alleged act or
behaviour constitutes an
offence under the Indian Penal Code, or under any other law for the
time being in force, he
may forward the complaint to that effect to the Judicial or
Metropolitan Magistrate, as the
case may be, having jurisdiction in the matter.

hope this helps. good luck!
Regards
Anjali

On 1/2/17, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
There is no such ground-breaking on-the-ground mechanism, not even in 
the

new law, despite we repeatedly demanding it.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Saravanan.K
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:09 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: [AI] Complaint

Dear Friends,

I am Saravanan from Bangalore.
I wish you all a very happy new year 2017.
Most of the VI persons has been irritated or badly treated by some of
the public servants such as bus conductors or Disability card issueing
persons in hospitals or many goverment employees refusing to provide the
relaxations for VI's or some strangers critizising the VI's or some
rough persons behaving wrongly with Disabled persons in Handicapped
boggies, etc. Is there any possibility to take action on these persons.
If so, how to take action on them. Is there possibility to raise
complaint on them thru phone calls. Or elswhere we have to adjust

Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad

[P. Subramani]

thank you very much
E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message - 
From: "Amiyo Biswas" <am...@bpa.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad


These phones are available in Kolkata. I have heard that it is also 
available on flipkart. Search for itel phone with king voice. There are a 
few models like itel 4232, 5612 etc. Make sure it has king voice.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: "P. Subramani" <subramani6...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad



could you pls send the link for the said phones?
E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message - 
From: "Amiyo Biswas" <am...@bpa.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad


I think, you must have seen the itel phones with king voices. These are 
quite good at rs. 1,500. I suppose, those who do not need internet and 
email can use these phones. These have keypads and voices, just as if a 
basic phone with talks. The only problem is that it does not echo the 
characters we type or read character by character. It may improve later.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329





- Original Message - 
From: "Nithin Sathyan" <neethsat...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad



hai friends, its a  Good initiative.
like me there are many  peoples who  are not  comfortable with touch 
phone,.

best wishes for   the new  phone.
with regards,
nithin sathyan
mob no.
09961177633
skype name
nithin210


On 12/16/16, shankar shan <shankarsai...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow.
Good initiative !!!

As some of our friends explained the capacity  of the touch devicess
advantages and its abilities
I would like to bring some of the issues faced  by visually impaired 
persons

I do not wish to talk more about the operating system.
 But, I would like to suggest some specifications here.
1. The phone’s  cost  should be in between 7 to 8000
2. The device should have minimum of 1gb rom.
3. The device should be operated with touch as well as keypad.
4. All the keys has to invoked with different functionalities. For
example, if the user pressed menu plus 1, the messaging app should
open.
5. The keyboard should not restricted only with typing. If the user is
out of edit feelds, the keys has to function with other operations.
6. The device display should be given with 4.5 or, 5.5 creeps.

People can operate the touch devices without any problems, but, still
there is some issues persists.

1. The users has to carry 2 to 3 gadgets example, Bluetooth keypad,
headphones, chargers allways.
2. In the crouded places, the user has to use headphones allways.
3. The voice dictation does not make any sense some times. For
example, if the user does not have internet connection, and offline
voice dictation does not working, then, the, user has to struggle. For
convey the messages/mails.
4. If the user is facing the issues with the battery, then, he/she has
to carry powerbank. Extra Burdon

If the developer is willing to make the product, then, they have to
quickly start the project. Before the eye-d keyboard comes into the
market.





On 12/15/16, madhu.singhal59 <madhu.singha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Mudda,
Please arrange a meating with some vis to discuss about features of 
the

phone.
Some time people want to do good for vi but they do not think the 
total

need
of ours.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:50 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad

android is basically a touch plateform. better is to develop any app 
which
can make smart phone more accessible. we can purchase a good and 
mostly
accessible phone around 7-8000 then why we should move for keypad 
enable
phone. secodnly their would be limitation with keypad phones. we can 
use
small cize bluetooth keyboard with smart phone and talkback is having 
many

Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad

[P. Subramani]

could you pls send the link for the said phones?
E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message - 
From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad


I think, you must have seen the itel phones with king voices. These are 
quite good at rs. 1,500. I suppose, those who do not need internet and 
email can use these phones. These have keypads and voices, just as if a 
basic phone with talks. The only problem is that it does not echo the 
characters we type or read character by character. It may improve later.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329





- Original Message - 
From: "Nithin Sathyan" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." 

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad



hai friends, its a  Good initiative.
like me there are many  peoples who  are not  comfortable with touch 
phone,.

best wishes for   the new  phone.
with regards,
nithin sathyan
mob no.
09961177633
skype name
nithin210


On 12/16/16, shankar shan  wrote:

Wow.
Good initiative !!!

As some of our friends explained the capacity  of the touch devicess
advantages and its abilities
I would like to bring some of the issues faced  by visually impaired 
persons

I do not wish to talk more about the operating system.
 But, I would like to suggest some specifications here.
1. The phone’s  cost  should be in between 7 to 8000
2. The device should have minimum of 1gb rom.
3. The device should be operated with touch as well as keypad.
4. All the keys has to invoked with different functionalities. For
example, if the user pressed menu plus 1, the messaging app should
open.
5. The keyboard should not restricted only with typing. If the user is
out of edit feelds, the keys has to function with other operations.
6. The device display should be given with 4.5 or, 5.5 creeps.

People can operate the touch devices without any problems, but, still
there is some issues persists.

1. The users has to carry 2 to 3 gadgets example, Bluetooth keypad,
headphones, chargers allways.
2. In the crouded places, the user has to use headphones allways.
3. The voice dictation does not make any sense some times. For
example, if the user does not have internet connection, and offline
voice dictation does not working, then, the, user has to struggle. For
convey the messages/mails.
4. If the user is facing the issues with the battery, then, he/she has
to carry powerbank. Extra Burdon

If the developer is willing to make the product, then, they have to
quickly start the project. Before the eye-d keyboard comes into the
market.





On 12/15/16, madhu.singhal59  wrote:

Dear Mr. Mudda,
Please arrange a meating with some vis to discuss about features of the
phone.
Some time people want to do good for vi but they do not think the total
need
of ours.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:50 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] smart phone with key pad

android is basically a touch plateform. better is to develop any app 
which

can make smart phone more accessible. we can purchase a good and mostly
accessible phone around 7-8000 then why we should move for keypad 
enable
phone. secodnly their would be limitation with keypad phones. we can 
use
small cize bluetooth keyboard with smart phone and talkback is having 
many

keyboard commands to access with physical keyboard.


-Original Message-
From: PAULMUDDHA
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:18 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning

the disabled.' ; sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
Subject: [AI] smart phone with key pad

Dear learned friends

A friend of mine who is also a visually challenged is developing a 
smart
phone with keypad [with full pledged buttons with the help of a 
developer

from Mumbai

]

With his own funds.

He would like to know whether this smart phone could be marketed in 
India

and abroad for a price of Rs.5K.

Please throw some light on this important information and provide
suggestions to help him develop the phone.

Regards

Paul Muddha





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Re: [AI] now you can see concession fares in indian rail.gov.in

[P. Subramani]

could you pls send me the link for concessional rail fare?
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- Original Message - 
From: "sazid shaik" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:34 PM
Subject: [AI] now you can see concession fares in indian rail.gov.in



Dear list, Just now the  issue which was facing with us to get
concession fare was resolved within 20 minutes when i escalated this
to our railway department.

thanks and regards,
sazid


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Re: [AI] New G.O for KSRTC busses

[P. Subramani]

could you pls upload the said G.O.?
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- Original Message - 
From: "Saravanan.K" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 6:38 PM
Subject: [AI] New G.O for KSRTC busses



Dear Friends,

We have received a new  G.O for KSRTC Buss pass for the blind.
As per that, the Bus pass will be valid for 5 years.
But I enquired in KSRTC office last week.
They stated that they have not received any notification for issueing the 
bus pass for 5 years.

Already it has been released before 3 months.
When this G.O will be implemented.
Or, it is just for name sake.

Thanks
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402




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Re: [AI] concessional base fare enquiry has been removed from indianrail.gov.in

[P. Subramani]

manual calculations are not simple, its not like total fare divided by 
one-fourth, we get concession only with fare for distance and no concession 
on other charges

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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] concessional base fare enquiry has been removed from 
indianrail.gov.in



it is removed from their website and required to take the matter with 
CRIS. however you can still book concession tickets through IRCTC and 
counters. further we have to manually calculate estimated concessional 
fair.



-Original Message- 
From: Vishnu Ramchandani

Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 11:33 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.'
Subject: [AI] concessional base fare enquiry has been removed from 
indianrail.gov.in


Dear All,

It has come to my notice that indianrail.gov.in is not showing the 
concessional fare enquiry. When I try to view the fare by selecting the 
appropriate category from the 'concession' dropdown list, clicking on 'get 
fare' button displays the following message:

"the conc is not valid for this date, please try again".

Has indianrail.gov.in removed such fare enquiry from its system or the 
issue is temporary, I am unable to figure it out. I am trying to view fare 
since past few days but it shows me the same error. If it has been removed 
from their website, then is there any other way to view the concession 
fare enquiry? Have you tried to view the concessional fare enquiry from 
indianrail? If yes, do post your experience.


Regards,
Vishnu
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Re: [AI] Fwd: {Disability Studies India} Fwd: Indian Mythology Has a Problem With Disability- The Wire Article.

[P. Subramani]

a very biased/one-sided article written by a christian who  has little
understanding of indian mythology.   This is basically missionary activity.
Unfortunately, the so called educated and  secular fall pray to such
distortions.   Taking into account the author's name, obviously he has been
brought under certain ideals that are  against and alien to hinduism.  So
such person writing  articles on hinduism is absurd.  This is nothing but
paid journalism.  Disableds are treated obviously very badly in all 
religions, why single out only hinduism?   Infact, hinduism is much better 
than other religions and cultures in treating the disabled. I wonder as to 
what's being achieved by posting such biased articles in this list?  For 
your info, you may  click on the below links for more:


http://infidels.org/library/modern/michael_moore/disabled.html

http://english.aifo.it/disability/documents/journal_articles/Disability_culture_myths.pdf

https://www.openbible.info/topics/disabled_people


http://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99sep11/saturday/head1.htm

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From: "avinash shahi" 

To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision"

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:05 AM
Subject: [AI] Fwd: {Disability Studies India} Fwd: Indian Mythology Has a
Problem With Disability- The Wire Article.



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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 08:01:50 +0530
Subject: {Disability Studies India} Fwd: Indian Mythology Has a
Problem With Disability- The Wire Article.
To: disability-studies-india
, "AccessIndia: a list for
discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled."
, brailleacl


-- Forwarded message --
From: Karthi Govarthanan 
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 19:30:18 +0530
Subject: Indian Mythology Has a Problem With Disability- The Wire Article.
To: "uday. ganesh01" , sivaramanvvs
, pathisamy 

Indian Mythology Has a Problem With Disability

BY MARTAND JHA ON 31/10/2016

Mythology has taught us to enable discrimination against disabled people,
portraying them negatively and telling us that they deserve it because of
sins committed in past lives.

Sanjaya meets Dhritarashtra as his envoy for peace negotiations. Credit:
Wikimedia Commons

It is said that one can find every aspect of life in the holy
text Mahabharata and if one doesn’t find it there, then chances are little
that one will find it elsewhere. But while it is true that
the Mahabharatacontains elements of philosophy, life, war, intellect,
passion, jealousy and treachery, one element is not discussed as it should
have been: disability. The character associated with it is Dhritarashtra,
who is negatively portrayed throughout the text. In fact, many believe
that
he is to blame for the epic battle between the cousins (Pandavas and
Kauravas) because he adamantly insisted that his son, Duryodhana, should
be
king after him, instead of the more worthy Yudhisthira.

Since very few people in India have actually read theMahabharata, the don’t
know about the character of Dhritarashtra before he became king – an
aspect
that has been cautiously kept hidden. Both Dhritarashtra and his
step-brother Pandu had a very cordial relationship. Pandu, being the
younger brother, held Dhritarashtra in very high-esteem – and it was
reciprocated.

Both were disciples of the great Bhishma, their uncle who was also looking
after the administration of the kingdom since there was no king on the
throne at the time. Bhishma himself couldn’t take the throne because of a
vow he had made earlier in his life. Since Dhritarashtra was older, he was
trained to be a king, while the younger brother, Pandu, was trained as a
warrior and lead the army and become thesenapati. Bhishma trained the
brothers so the kingdom could go into safe hands.

Bhishma’s idea was sage, because Dhritarashtra was visually impaired from
birth and thus couldn’t fight wars. He was trained in administration,
management, decision-making, delivering justice – all very important
aspects of being a king, while the aspect of war was left to Pandu, who
could militarily assist his older brother. As a team, they could have
achieved wonders.

But when Dhritarashtra was being crowned, Vidur, the young prime minister,
who was also taught by Bhishma, objected to him becoming king. How can a
blind man sit on the throne of a king, he had argued. How could the
kingdom
be a great empire if the king is blind? How could important decisions be
made on the battlefield if the king is sitting safe in the capital?

Nobody said anything to Vidur’s questions because a king with a disability
was unprecedented. As a result, Dhritarashtra had to step down; his
disability was taken as his 

Re: [AI] internet 11 problem

[P. Subramani]

Thanks for the tip, i did get  open or save option, when I click on the save 
option, it does save  in the desired location.  However,  I don't infor 
about the file size, percentage of  download, etc., as we used to get in ie 
8.  Any tips for that as well?

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From: "Boopathi P" <pathis...@gmail.com>
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the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] internet 11 problem



Hi,
try pressing Alt + N for the notification. Then press tab button. You
can find save or open option. Hope it helps.

Best
Boopathi

On 10/29/16, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:

I recently upgraded from IE 9 to IE 11.

When I go to a web site and click on a link to open a file--let's say
download a PDF--nothing happens. I don't  get the option to Open, Save, 
or

Save As. None of them work.

This is frustrating because I cannot open any documents on our intranet.

I logged off my computer and my assistant logged on. Same thing occurs 
for

him.

I've tried the CTRL J thing. That works fine--that is, it opens the 
download

manager.

I've scoured the settings in IE11 but found nothing that works.

Anyone got any good suggestions? However, I cam find the downloaded items
when  I  go to downloads folder.

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[AI] internet 11 problem

[P. Subramani]

I recently upgraded from IE 9 to IE 11. 

When I go to a web site and click on a link to open a file--let's say download 
a PDF--nothing happens. I don't  get the option to Open, Save, or Save As. None 
of them work.

This is frustrating because I cannot open any documents on our intranet.

I logged off my computer and my assistant logged on. Same thing occurs for him.

I've tried the CTRL J thing. That works fine--that is, it opens the download 
manager. 

I've scoured the settings in IE11 but found nothing that works.

Anyone got any good suggestions? However, I cam find the downloaded items when  
I  go to downloads folder. 

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Re: [AI] request for circular

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thank to those for feedback.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] request for circular



hello,
subramani sir.
this order isn't valid right now.
cause BSNL reduce their concession rates.
so check it one time.

On 10/11/16, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:


Government of India

Ministry of Communications

Department of Telecommunications

415, Sanchar Bhawan, 20, Ashoka Road, New Delhi.



No. 9-27/93-PHA
Dated : 23rd Sept,1993



To



All Chief General Managers, Telecom /Telephones,

Chairman-cum-Managing Director, MTNL, New Delhi

Chief General Manager, MTNL, Bombay/New Delhi.



Subject :  Provision of concessional telephone connection on
priority to blind person.



The case of provision of concessional telephone facility on
priority to blind person has been under consideration of the department 
as a


Welfare measure.  It has been decided to provide telephone facility to 
blind


person on the following terms and conditions.



2. Registration  fee - normal, as in the case 
of


a private subscriber



Installation charges- normal , as in the case 
of


a private subscriber



Rental rebate  -50% of the normal
rental



Advance rental-50% of the annual 
advance


rental and bi-monthly

 rental as
applicable to a private subscriber



Category  - Non OYT Special



Free call units - as admissible to a
private subscriber



3. A blind person is eligible to only one telephone under this
connection.



4. The application form must be supported by a "visually blind
certificate", issued by the CMO/MS/Opthalmic Surgeon of a district level
Government hospital or above.



5. Blind person already having the facility of a telephone
connection may approach the telecom authority with requisite certificate 
and


request for rental rebate under the scheme.  He/She will be eligible for 
the


concession from the date the conversion has been effected.



6. On the death of the blind hirer, the telephone is transferable 
to


the legal heir on normal rent. In case the legal heir is not eligible to
concession under the scheme.



7. Receipt of this letter may kindly be acknowledged.





(H.S.CHANDRA)

Asst. Director General (PHA)



Copy to :



1. P.S. to MOS(C), Sanchar Bhawan

2. P.S. to Chairman, Telecom Commission

3. P.S. to OSD, Telecom Commission

4. Director General, Telecom Commission

5. All Members/All Advisors/All Sr. DDsC/All DDsG, Telecom
Commission



(H.K. GROVER)

Section Officer (PHA)



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Subject: [AI] request for circular



Friends, I am need of a bsnl circular to avail 50 percent concession on
landline rent.  Anyone havijng the same may send immediately as it is 
very


urgent.  thanks and regards,
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[AI] request for circular

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Re: [AI] Best primetime show with Ravish kumar

[P. Subramani]

very well said ved prakash, you are absolutely on the dot,  JNU students are 
heavy subsidies and practice anti-nationalism, its the den  for all 
anti-india activies, their hostel fee is Rs 20 per month, can you imagine, 
govt subsidises them with Rs 5 lakhs from taxpayers' money,  still, they are 
unpatriotic.

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From: "Vedprakash Sharma" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Best primetime show with Ravish kumar



When I write this mail, I am not prejudiced.
Neither am I angry or frustrated.
I am cool and calm as I write this mail.
I watched the youtube link given herein and found that the anchor was 
trying

to condone whatever happened in JNU on 9th feb.
He established the fact that videos shown on different news channels
regarding the involvement of Kanhaiya, were fabricated. I cannot see the
videos and hence feel free of all the wrong info which was inserted 
through

the fabricated videos. Therefore, let us now discuss the fairness or the
opposite, of the happenings of JNU in the light of the available facts.
Fact 1: The court remanded Kanhaiya to firstly in the police custody and
afterwards, when police said that no more questioning is required, in
judicial custody.
Fact 2: SC did not entertain Kanhaiya's plea that SC should hear his bale
petition.
Fact 3. Public perception does not matter in court hearings. Some will 
say,

he is right, others will say he is antinational.
Fact 4: If Kanhaiya has the right to express his feelings, the people who
shouted antinational slogans, have the right to express their venomous
sentiments, so do the lawyers have. If somebody abuses you, you may get
violent and even injure the person.
Fact 5: JNU has been the fertile ground for breeding antinational 
feelings.
Be it nexelite forces like Maoists, or Kashmiri terrorists like Afzal 
guru,

Gilani etc, JNU students and teachers support radicle views and feel proud
in it. They feel they must look a bit different. Looks that they are very
affected with the advertisement, "Its different" They glorify radicalism.
In the light of the above facts, JNU people should introspect if they are
doing any good to the nation by strengthening the radicle forces. We are
told that Democratic students union was banned by Congress long back. But
JNU supports it. Not only that, Rahul Gandhi, whose party banned it, comes
in support of the same Union as he opposes the police action against the
students Union who stand by the banned Union.
Criticising the policies of the government is one thing and abusing the
nation is different.
When we spread antinational feelings, we may invite violent protests. The
same is happening in Patyala House court.
I would like to here the truth from the JNU students and teachers who are 
in

the list. I hope they shall also speak without anger, provocation,
frustration or prejudice.
Thanks and regards.

Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of avinash shahi
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 10:41 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Best primetime show with Ravish kumar

Ravish kumar has done many primetime shows with blind people in the past
however yesterday his studio was blind for all the viewers. I feel this is
one of the best prime time ever. Let this link travel on all
social-networking platforms be it whatsap, FB. This programme should also 
be

circulated in the villages and in the smaller cities of India.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ3UaQA5td8=share

--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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Re: [AI] Why the tricolor makes no sense to me.

[P. Subramani]

I don't understand as to why  flaghoisting and disability is  mixed up. 
there is no relations between the two,  surely rights/accessibility for the 
disabled can be discussed in this group.  But what has this group got to do 
flaghoisting? This is definitely off-topic.  Anti-national elements are 
trying to highjack this group as well.  The moderater may look into this. 
There could be disagreements/differences with the govt, but not against the 
country.

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From: "muruganandan.k" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Why the tricolor makes no sense to me.



When the MHRD or UGC have not done anything substantial to establish
equal opportunity cell or HEPSN cell for persons with special needs in
the Central universities, when these so-called guardians of
higher-education in India have hardly paid attention to the
implementation of 3 per cent reservation for the PWDs in educational
institutions, when the Central Government is not willing to obey even
the order of Supreme Court of India in fulfilling its responsibilities
to the PWDs in employment, why so much strain and stress is taken to
hoist flags in the central universities? You may take pride in
hoisting flags, But it makes no sense when the police forces are able
to beat-up the blind and disabled all over the country with
unquestionable authority and brutality. If you think Avinash is
getting emotional, feeling patriotic about the flag hoisting is more
an emotional cry! Patriotism can be truly proved only through our
commitment to the people, respect for all others and by fullfilling
our responsibilities, not just by hoisting flags.. Each action/event
in the public domain are inter-connected, it is hence not out of place
to indicate the lapses in our system while lot of energy is spent in
other issues which are apparently unimportant. True democracy must
give space for dissenting voices and ensure one's right to disagree...

On 2/20/16, Himanshu Sahu  wrote:

I am Really puzzled to see the attempt of co-relating ongoing JNU
politics with accessibility issue. Let us be logical and not emotional
on platform created entirely for different purpose...
I was able to see colours 12 years back, today I cant! Does this mean
that colours do not exist now?




On 2/20/16, akshun mahajan  wrote:

It is the most ridiculous argument for me Since I'm blind by-birth, I
even don't know how the tricolor looks like.

by being blind you are exploring whole world but when it comes to
tricolor you are blind what kind of kiddish argument it is.


On 2/20/16, Umesha S E  wrote:

dear friends,
seems the topic is diverting away from accessibility. let us restrict
ourselves in this list to the topics being specified.

Umesha


On 2/20/16, avinash shahi  wrote:

I agree to you what you just expressed. And I have no objection to
this recent command from the HRD Ministry. If they think hoisting flag
would inspire patriotic sentiments let it be hoisted. However teaching
distorted form of nationalism in connivance with the police and the
rampaging mobs is scary.
 On 2/20/16, Sandeep Singh  wrote:

Hi Avinash,
I understand your feelings, however, I must say the truth doesn't
change just because we are unaware of it. Attempts are being made to
make the tricolor accessible to VI people, especially by some
organizations in Bangaluru. And we don't have to be too resistant if
things like hoisting national flag on buildings like educational
institutions etc are being planned. I always felt very proud when I
saw tricolor being hoisted in my school and college. Remember there
are other students also there apart from VI students. One more thing,
it is not allowed to hoist the national flag on our houses except on
some special occasions like independence day, republic day etc and
many organizations have been demanding to allow the ordinary people
this right.
I think we should focus our energies on bringing positive change to
the society and our own lives as well.
Best regards,
Sandeep

On 2/20/16, avinash shahi  wrote:

Since I'm blind by-birth, I even don't know how the tricolor looks
like. Yet I'm Indian. Instead of making tricolor accessible to the
blind people in the country they're gonna spend huge sums in 
hoisting
the flag atop of all central universities. It will not make any 
sense

to me. On a humorous note: I might even hold neighbouring country's
flag and hoist it flyhigh and shout India zindabad. Will I be then 
be

called anti-national?

--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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[AI] Disabled beggar booked for 'offensive remark'

[P. Subramani]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Disabled-beggar-booked-for-offensive-remark/articleshow/49851731.cms
 





Disabled beggar booked for 'offensive remark'TNN | Nov 20, 2015  
Mumbai: The Kurla GRP have booked a 40-year-old disabled beggar for passing 
offensive remarks at women and "hurting religious sentiments" while travelling 
in a coach reserved for the disabled on a Central Railway local on Thursday.
Around 2.30pm, Salim Ansari was travelling in a CST-Kalyan local when he 
objected to two women travelling in the reserved coach.

"A passenger in the adjacent general coach overhead Ansari asking the two to 
get off at Vikhroli station. The passenger asked Ansari to let the women be. 
But Ansari insisted they should alight," said a police official.

After the women left, Ansari allegedly passed offensive comments. Angry 
passengers then caught hold of him and handed him to the Kurla GRP.
















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Re: [AI] Double Conveyance Tax exemption for Blind

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could you pls post the full notification?
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From: "bhawani shankar verma" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled." 

Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Double Conveyance Tax exemption for Blind



here it is:

The transport allowance granted to an employee to meet his expenditure for 
the purpose of commuting between the place of his residence and the place 
of duty is exempt to the extent of Rs. 1600 p. m. or Rs 3200 p.m. (for a 
person who is blind or deaf and dumb or is orthopaedically handicapped 
with disabilities of lower extremes) vide notification S.O.No. 395(E) 
dated 13.05.98 r/w S.O. No. 1002 (E) dated 13.04.2015 & S.O. No. 2604 (E) 
dated 23.09.2015.



-Original Message- 
From: Archana Bhatia

Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:34 AM
To: Accessindia
Subject: [AI] Double Conveyance Tax exemption for Blind

Hi All,

Let me know how much is the Conveyance tax exemption limit for Blind
per month. In the recent budget of 2015-16, for normal employees it
was raised from 800 INR to 1600INR per month Are we entitled for
double conveyance tax exemption? I mean can we get 1600*2= 3200 INR
per month? If yes then can someone share any circular for reference.
Regards
Archana


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Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[P. Subramani]

you are absolutely right on this,  I never meant to  condemn others 
viewpoints,  my viewpoint is why not have choices and let the individual 
have the choice

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- Original Message - 
From: "George Abraham" <geo...@eyeway.org>
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers


There are different views on any subject. All may not agree with what is 
written on the list. They are free to express their views. Even the well 
settled persons also have thoughts that they are welcome to share. Such 
discussions give us perspectives.


What one takes away from a discussion depends on how one looks at life. 
All the so called well placed people in this country have also struggled 
and faced up to challenges. What largely singles them out is their 
attitude and approach and willingness to adapt and innovate. Let us not 
condemn or look down on them.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of P. Subramani

Sent: 14 January 2016 12:12
To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

I don't understand the big fuss created on this topic, obviously
computer-users will not resort to recording answers, most will definitely
use scribes and only a few individuals as a last  option may opt for
recording,  it should be individual's choice having varous options are by 
no

means a bad thing
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To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers



Tape-recording answers is dangerous.
Firstly, the pronunciation part.
I can furnish numerous examples in Hindi, where different people 
pronounce

the same word differently due to regional considerations.
Secondly, when we record an answer, little time is left for the process 
of

thinking. Either you pause the recording frequently, or you have to speak
flawlessly and continuously.
During the recording, a shrill horn from a nearby vehicle may disturb the
recording and the checker may not get the recording correctly.
Many more such disturbances may occur resulting in a bad recording.
Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:30 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

What if the tape-recorder malfunctions?  In 2002, my typewriter didn't
work when I went to DU to appear for the exams for the post of typist.
Multiple options may be given to the blind for writing exams.  At the 
same

time, teachers should prepare the students to the extent of securing good
marks on their own without expecting the scribes to compensate for the
poor preparation and/or negligence of the students.

Regards.


On 1/12/16, Vidhya Y <vidhya@gmail.com> wrote:

what about math? tell it like a Poem?
typing would be fair instead of recording.
the Sighted write so we should type!
that way teachers can deduct marks for spelling mistakes and so on in
case of English Language.
for this, students should be introduced to assistive technology early
on, which may take time, but not impossible.
liberal evaluation/ grace marks as mentioned in the article is given
to all special Students.
which would make the blind incompetent  if practiced.
I agree that these initiatives maybe desirable for learning and
complex disabilities!
many of the policies that come up are not  well thought off in advance.
I feel the government should consult the disabled first, as these
policies are used by us and not those who make the policy.

On 1/12/16, Aravind R <aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com> wrote:

then, our recorded answers should be crisp and clear to attract
listeners who put marks. if we tell answers slowly or if we want to
change what we said, deleting old recording and inserting new will be
tedius and time consuming.
i prefer typing through screen readers else writers should continue.

On 1/12/16, raaju <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh my gosh! I can't speak my answer by recording. I preffer computer
writing or exam in Braille.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@acce

Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[P. Subramani]

you are absolutely right, only few elite  don't like gracemarks and other 
incentives for blind education as they are well settled with high positions, 
when we are having lots of difficulties in getting good/accesible education, 
there is every reason for demanding gracemarks and other incentives,  when 
other castes/groups and minorities are fighting for more and more 
benefits/incentives, we disabled  are lagging behind in not accepting the 
benefits

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- Original Message - 
From: "Arjun Malhotra" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers



I fail to understand why words like grace marks and liberal checking
are construed in negative light. Well if you dont know then you have
the right to know that what ever the marks that one obtain in exam are
not your actual marks but moderated marks. At times marks may be
increased or even decreased. Its the matter of policy that how
moderation is to be done. Factors like difficulty of question paper,
error in question in question paper, accademic trends and other such
factors are taken into consideration while moderating the exam result.
Benifit or loss is extended to all regardless  of one's disability,
cast, gender and social background.



Will someone tell me if a VI student is not getting reasonable
education who is to be blaimed? By reasonable education I mean
getting quality accessable study material on time, study material free
from errors, quality teaching, eas in accessing books, guides, or any
other such educational material. Half of the time of VI student is
spent on gathering accessable study material, scanning it, get editing
done. When will that student learn and crystalise the concepts. When
will s/he will get time to revise? Of course conceptual clarity will
not be there and which will be apparent in the answer scripts and term
papers. Grace marks is their right. Right to education is our
fundamental right and right to quality life is also our right.  That
is to say Right to accessable education is a fundamental right of a
student with disability. If this right to accessable education is
infringed well it requires that what ever harm have caused to student
with disability has to be compensated

I'm against grace marks but I'll continue to favour them unless
students with disability do not get education with all the acomodation
that they require. Yes all acomodation not reasonable acomodation.
Reasonable acomodation has done more harm than solving the problems.
Reasonable acomodation is a  convenient term to expend ingenuity in
fabricating loop wholes in order to  escape inclusive system.



On 1/13/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hi,

Very fruitful discussion indeed! In my views, typing, writers and
recording should co- exist. Our so-called special schools are far from
achieving some success with maths even at SSE level hence we can't
just expect that every student can type equations as fluently as
he/she can dictate to a writer. Similarly, In case of regional
languages, Use of recording devices can make the process rather easier
for visually impaired participants as compared to dictation as well as
typing.

Regards,
Ajay

On 1/13/16, avinash shahi  wrote:

Very constructive discussion is on. I'd agree that Blind People
Organisations in Maharashtra should meet Education Minister and
suggest necessary corrections in the GR in written form. The CBSE has
provision for ensuring the availability of computer with enabled
assistive tools to write one's exam. However I'm not sure about the
efficiency of Marathi-screen reading software. The provision of scribe
should not be discontinued. Moreover, if needed,the questionpapers
should be provided in Braille.
On 1/13/16, bala9119  wrote:

First of all, I appreciate Mr. Vinod Tawde for bringing the necessity
of change or evolution in conducting exams for the disabled to the
limelight. recording the answers should be one of the options not the
mandatory. strict no to liberal or grace marks. instead of straight up
criticisms to the suggestions, it would be better if the civil society
organizations of blind speak to Mr. Tawde to explain the drawbacks of
the system so that a constructive change may happened. I generally
oppose the system of scribes and particularly anti towards the print
impaired bringing their own scribe. a person who finding difficult to
frame a sentence is a probationary officer in many banks now is what
the bitter truth which some of you may disagree. because of such
malpractice, the eligible, legitimate print impaired people are
suffering a lot. if we want to maintain the scribe system, better we
have to push for the governments to provide 

Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[P. Subramani]

I don't understand the big fuss created on this topic, obviously 
computer-users will not resort to recording answers, most will definitely 
use scribes and only a few individuals as a last  option may opt for 
recording,  it should be individual's choice having varous options are by no 
means a bad thing

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- Original Message - 
From: "Vedprakash" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers



Tape-recording answers is dangerous.
Firstly, the pronunciation part.
I can furnish numerous examples in Hindi, where different people pronounce 
the same word differently due to regional considerations.
Secondly, when we record an answer, little time is left for the process of 
thinking. Either you pause the recording frequently, or you have to speak 
flawlessly and continuously.
During the recording, a shrill horn from a nearby vehicle may disturb the 
recording and the checker may not get the recording correctly.

Many more such disturbances may occur resulting in a bad recording.
Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah

Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:30 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 

Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

What if the tape-recorder malfunctions?  In 2002, my typewriter didn't 
work when I went to DU to appear for the exams for the post of typist.
Multiple options may be given to the blind for writing exams.  At the same 
time, teachers should prepare the students to the extent of securing good 
marks on their own without expecting the scribes to compensate for the 
poor preparation and/or negligence of the students.


Regards.


On 1/12/16, Vidhya Y  wrote:

what about math? tell it like a Poem?
typing would be fair instead of recording.
the Sighted write so we should type!
that way teachers can deduct marks for spelling mistakes and so on in
case of English Language.
for this, students should be introduced to assistive technology early
on, which may take time, but not impossible.
liberal evaluation/ grace marks as mentioned in the article is given
to all special Students.
which would make the blind incompetent  if practiced.
I agree that these initiatives maybe desirable for learning and
complex disabilities!
many of the policies that come up are not  well thought off in advance.
I feel the government should consult the disabled first, as these
policies are used by us and not those who make the policy.

On 1/12/16, Aravind R  wrote:

then, our recorded answers should be crisp and clear to attract
listeners who put marks. if we tell answers slowly or if we want to
change what we said, deleting old recording and inserting new will be
tedius and time consuming.
i prefer typing through screen readers else writers should continue.

On 1/12/16, raaju  wrote:

Oh my gosh! I can't speak my answer by recording. I preffer computer
writing or exam in Braille.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 2:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

One step towards independent exam system. But I believe it would be
good to provide options like use of computer or recording.
Sensitising examination authorities would also be needed to avoid
bitter experience.

I see it may be a bit challenge for teachers during correction as
accent may vary.

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C


On 12-Jan-2016, at 13:52, George Abraham  wrote:

Would be interested in knowing  the groups view on this initiative!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 12 January 2016 13:32
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.
Subject: [AI] Blind can record answers

Times of India:

Blind students can 'record' board exam answers on tape recorder
Abhishek Choudhari
| TNN | Jan 9, 2016, 04.24 PM IST
NAGPUR: Don't be surprised if during this summer's state board exam
a candidate asks the invigilator for additional 'cassette' instead
of additional supplement.
Students suffering from visual impairment (partial/full) can now
record their answers on tape recorder rather than taking help of a
writer. This new rule is part of a slew of revolutionary changes
brought 

Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

[P. Subramani]

when other groups are getting various benefits, nothing wrong in 
blind/disabled getting liberal corrections, grace marks, etc.,   afterall, 
when abled are getting benefits, we should more than others.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Dr.B.S.M.Kumar" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers



Hi
I am not for liberal correction and grace marking for us. I don't
think we are beggars. Let
there be uniform corrections. We require only assistance to express
our knowledge in written form through a good scribes. Alternativly, we
should make the authorities to move towards computer based exam with
the help of screen readers. This will also eliminate our dependency on
others. I, feel, we all should focus towards making the government to
creating the infrastructure for computer based examination format.
Regards,



On 1/13/16, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:
Of course, it is a positive step. But I think, for public exams where 
only
multiple choice questions have to be ansered, Braille is the best option 
for
those who know it. I appeared at the SSC exam in 1988 where I was 
supplied

questions in Braille, grade 1 english and Hindi. I had to tick mark the
correct answers with the help of a sketch pen.

This is not possible for the board exams. But for other competitive 
exams, I
think, we should demand Braille questions. It will save us the harassment 
of

finding a scribe and we can attend the exam much better.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cel: 9433464329
- Original Message -
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers



Another issue. Liberal evaluation and grace marks,would be interested on
the group's views!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Rajesh H Mehta
Sent: 12 January 2016 14:33
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning


the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers

IN my views, allowing recording answers is surely a welcome move due to
which dependency on writer would surely be reduced. However this could
further complex the writing skills of VI individuals. Due to just
recording the answers spellings would further become week. No doubt, 
this

could surely looked as positive move as now writer would not decide what
to write and certainly VI would able to claim everything as per his/her
ability rather then keep on putting every thing on writers.





From:   "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning  the disabled.'" 
Date:   01/12/2016 01:57 PM
Subject:Re: [AI] Blind can record answers
Sent by:"AccessIndia" 



Would be interested in knowing  the groups view on this initiative!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 12 January 2016 13:32
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: [AI] Blind can record answers

Times of India:

Blind students can 'record' board exam answers on tape recorder
Abhishek Choudhari
| TNN | Jan 9, 2016, 04.24 PM IST
NAGPUR: Don't be surprised if during this summer's state board exam a
candidate asks the invigilator for additional 'cassette' instead of
additional supplement.
Students suffering from visual impairment (partial/full) can now record
their answers on tape recorder rather than taking help of a writer. This
new rule
is part of a slew of revolutionary changes brought in for special needs
students by state school education minister Vinod Tawde.

Speaking to TOI, Tawde said, "Visually impaired students can get the
questions read to them 20 minutes before the paper starts so that they 
can

get a feel
of things. Their answers will be recorded and the device will be sent 
for
evaluation in the same way we send the traditional answer sheets." For 
all

special
needs students the minister has offered other exam concessions, like 20
minutes extra time per exam hour, liberal evaluation, grace marks,
facility of
talking calculator, on-screen reading software (if available) etc.
Students suffering from cerebral palsy, autism, impairment of speech and
hearing, physical
disability, spastics, learning disorder etc are some who have been given
these examination concessions. Parents who have children with special
needs have
been advised to get 

Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penaliseunderany law?

[P. Subramani]

its a false sense that pm imposed the word,  its a mere suggestion,  Vocal 
protests, fine no point in airing in AI,  protests should be directed to the 
pm/pmo for his perusal/clarifications,  it seems more meaningful for pm to 
ingnore the disability sector altogether rather than  coming up with 
suggestions  as  a first step.

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From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penaliseunderany 
law?




No,

It is so, because

PM's word does carry much weight.

Our opinion is a position, his an imposition.
So, the vocal protests.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of P. Subramani

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:07 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise 
underany law?


it seems that postings are more against pm than the word.  If some one 
else
had used useed divyang,  the issue would have been ignored.  This 
discussion

is more politically motivated  than substance
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From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" <coolavic...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise 
underany

law?



The topic is being diverted by some people to unnecessarily drag PM
into the discussion.
Name calling is when somebody with intention of hurting deliberately
uses a derrogatory term.
It is not in case of Divyang.

On 12/28/15, Preeti Bhutani <bookwor...@gmail.com> wrote:

What about people who have multiple disabilities ?  when the
body loses one sense it is not compensated by other senses in their 
case.

These words are just words, heard numerous times.

When a door closes, God opens a window, they say, but what we need  a
helping hand to get to the window.

That we need , a helping hand so we all do what  we all are capable of.



We won’t become specially abled till we get some “special" helping hand
from government and society ,

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:59 PM, li...@srinivasu.org
<li...@srinivasu.org>
wrote:


Sorry... But what are the special abilities that one may have??

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 28-Dec-2015, at 20:42, Aravind Aralaguppe <
aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think speshaly abled is the rightword
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Lissy Verghese" <lvmalayatt...@gmail.com>
> Date: 28 Dec 2015 14:58
> Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any
> law?
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Cc:
>
> Dear friends,
> It is true that when the body loses one sense, it tries to compensate
> for it with whatever it has. Our dear Prime Minister appears a bit
> sympathetic. Strong words won't help. Let's cooperate with our
> Government by suggesting amendments. If we stand together, we will
> definitely be heard. Let organizations all over India come together
> and put forward constructive suggestions so that the efforts of the
> Government for an inclusive India can be fulfilled.
> Thank you!
> Lissy Verghese
>
>
>> On 12/28/15, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>> I had strongly pressed for such penal provisions in the new bill.
>> However, we don't know in which avtar the new bill will be passed
>> now.
>>
>> Even I would like to penalize our dear PM under any such provision,
>> if
it
>> were there, for calling us divyang and saying publicly that god 
>> gifts

>> compensatory abilities if he snatches away one.
>>
>> Not a bad bargain, na?
>>
>> Were It true, why not, Mr. PM go in for such a trade-off yourself 
>> and

ask
>> all government babus to follow suit?
>>
>>
>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>> नागपुर Nagpur
>>
>> 0712 2806846
>>
>> President
>> VIBEWA
>&g

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[P. Subramani]

this time, you put the correct sportlight
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From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 
‘divyang’




I kno that our Prime Minister is not a disability rights activist or a
disability scholar. And he is not well read about the correctness of
the disability terminology. What he suggested is a name hold by many
individuals in India. If one googles, one could find names Divyang
Chaudhary, Divyang Mandal and so on. But using the term collectively
for a group of people would connote different sense. That's where the
problem lies.




On 1/1/16, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
I do respect your views and also the fight/campaign against the faulty 
rpd
bill, pm merely suggested a word which after wider 
consultations/discussions
could be accpted/rejected by the views of the disableds/activitists, 
etc.,
my concern is  the posting give an impression that modi is anti-disabled 
by
suggesting such word and not implementing the benefits for the disableds 
and
not solving any of our problems.   surely pm is answerable to us for 
coining

the word.
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From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for 
the

‘divyang’



How do we make it crystal clear that our fight is not with the Modi as
a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely
uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of us always
think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its very much
political and we should politicize it to the extent we could.
Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair
share.  We should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the
PWD Acd are the outcome of the social model of disability to some
extent which aims to put burden on the society for the disabling
condition. Its unfortunate that handful of us think its a paid
campaign against Mr Modi. We are merely airing our views in the
publick domain which is vital for the strengthening of the disability
studies and the disability advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old
who could claim decades of experience of working in the sector. I'm
student and in my limited capacity as a writer I do my best in raising
serious concerns of ours. We successfully played our part in stalling
the passage of the faulty RPD Bill braught by the UPA II. We should
understand the importance of the publick debate and discussion which
hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its not that  only
writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There are
large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and
formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No
media house wants to publish anything about the ramification of the
'divyang' why? because there is an agreement with the suggestion. I
lament why we don't have publications taking up disability discourse
seriously. Its an opportune time to expose the politics behind the
terms 'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 'divyang'.


On 1/1/16, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:

well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done
rather
than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is 
no

reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to
power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was
ruling?
Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?
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To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>; "jnuvision"
<jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>; "pratiksha.baxi" 
<pratiksha.b...@gmail.com>;

"sayeverything" <sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for 
the

‘divyang’



As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
intellectual currents am

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra M odi for the ‘divyang’

[P. Subramani]

people  can have different views, they need to be aired appropriately.  The
postings in this list giv a different idea.
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From: "Mahendra Galani" <gal...@chello.at>

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: [AI] Re: My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra M odi for
the ‘divyang’


Subramani

i am sorry you got this time totaly wrong,
i dont think any one is against PM for name sake,
it is only against the word Divyang.



At 02:31 PM 1/1/2016 +0530, you wrote:

I do respect your views and also the fight/campaign against the faulty rpd
bill, pm merely suggested a word which after wider
consultations/discussions could be accpted/rejected by the views of the
disableds/activitists, etc., my concern is  the posting give an impression
that modi is anti-disabled by suggesting such word and not implementing the
benefits for the disableds and not solving any of our problems.   surely pm
is answerable to us for coining the word. E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192 Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16 - Original
Message - From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> To:
"AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe
disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016
2:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra
Modi for the â?~divyangâ?T > How do we make it crystal clear that our fight
is not with the Modi as > a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as
the PM of a largely > uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why
some of us always > think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its
very much > political and we should politicize it to the extent we could. >
Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair > share.
We should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the > PWD Acd are
the outcome of the social model of disability to some > extent which aims
to put burden on the society for the disabling > condition. Its unfortunate
that handful of us think its a paid > campaign against Mr Modi. We are
merely airing our views in the > publick domain which is vital for the
strengthening of the disability > studies and the disability advocacy. Mr
Subramani, I'm not that old > who could claim decades of experience of
working in the sector. I'm > student and in my limited capacity as a writer
I do my best in raising > serious concerns of ours. We successfully played
our part in stalling > the passage of the faulty RPD Bill braught by the
UPA II. We should > understand the importance of the publick debate and
discussion which > hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its not
that  only > writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There
are > large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and >
formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No > media
house wants to publish anything about the ramification of the > 'divyang'
why? because there is an agreement with the suggestion. I > lament why we
don't have publications taking up disability discourse > seriously. Its an
opportune time to expose the politics behind the > terms 'specially-abled'
differently-abled' and 'divyang'. > > > On 1/1/16, P. Subramani
<subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote: >> well avinash, we must fight with the
govt to get  these things done >> rather >> than asking the govt as to why
you haven't done all these.   There is no >> reason for suddenly taking a
hardline against the  after BJP coming to >> power.  Where were you people
and others while the earlier govt was >> ruling? >> Is this paid/concerted
anti-BJP campaign? >> -Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com >> Mob:  9738150192
>> Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16 >> - Original 
>> Message -

>> From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> >> To: "accessindia"
<accessindia@accessindia.org.in>; "jnuvision" >>
<jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>; "pratiksha.baxi" <pratiksha.b...@gmail.com>;
>> "sayeverything" <sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org> >> Sent: Monday,
December 28, 2015 9:16 PM >> Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank
you Mr Narendra Modi for the >> â?~divyangâ?T >> >> >>> As Mohandas
Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as â?~harijanâ?T sparked off >>> a
political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago, >>>
similarly th

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[P. Subramani]

I do respect your views and also the fight/campaign against the faulty rpd 
bill, pm merely suggested a word which after wider consultations/discussions 
could be accpted/rejected by the views of the disableds/activitists, etc., 
my concern is  the posting give an impression that modi is anti-disabled by 
suggesting such word and not implementing the benefits for the disableds and 
not solving any of our problems.   surely pm is answerable to us for coining 
the word.

E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 
‘divyang’




How do we make it crystal clear that our fight is not with the Modi as
a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely
uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of us always
think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its very much
political and we should politicize it to the extent we could.
Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair
share.  We should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the
PWD Acd are the outcome of the social model of disability to some
extent which aims to put burden on the society for the disabling
condition. Its unfortunate that handful of us think its a paid
campaign against Mr Modi. We are merely airing our views in the
publick domain which is vital for the strengthening of the disability
studies and the disability advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old
who could claim decades of experience of working in the sector. I'm
student and in my limited capacity as a writer I do my best in raising
serious concerns of ours. We successfully played our part in stalling
the passage of the faulty RPD Bill braught by the UPA II. We should
understand the importance of the publick debate and discussion which
hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its not that  only
writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There are
large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and
formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No
media house wants to publish anything about the ramification of the
'divyang' why? because there is an agreement with the suggestion. I
lament why we don't have publications taking up disability discourse
seriously. Its an opportune time to expose the politics behind the
terms 'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 'divyang'.


On 1/1/16, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:
well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done 
rather

than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is no
reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to
power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was 
ruling?

Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?
-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message -
From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com>
To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>; "jnuvision"
<jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>; "pratiksha.baxi" <pratiksha.b...@gmail.com>;
"sayeverything" <sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the
‘divyang’



As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the disabled
people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective
denominations imposed by the political class and the mainstream media
without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really thinks we are
‘divyang’, then what about extending parliamentary entry through Rajya
Sabha to the ‘divyangs’ to run the Upper House smoothly and
efficiently? What about creating Ministry of ‘divyang’ affairs in
2016? Why delaying the implementation of the 3 per cent reservation in
jobs despite the Apex Court’s directions? Mr Modi, merely asking the
nation to address the disabled as ‘divyang’ is insufficient. If you
really mean what you say, please increase the budgetary allocation for
the ‘divyang’ affairs in the forthcoming Budget which was paltry Rs
5000 crore for the year 2014-15. The large number of disabled people
are struggling for the bear minimum, and they are still ‘divyang for
th

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[P. Subramani]

well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done rather 
than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is no 
reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to 
power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was  ruling? 
Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?

-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision" 
; "pratiksha.baxi" ; 
"sayeverything" 

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 
‘divyang’




As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the disabled
people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective
denominations imposed by the political class and the mainstream media
without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really thinks we are
‘divyang’, then what about extending parliamentary entry through Rajya
Sabha to the ‘divyangs’ to run the Upper House smoothly and
efficiently? What about creating Ministry of ‘divyang’ affairs in
2016? Why delaying the implementation of the 3 per cent reservation in
jobs despite the Apex Court’s directions? Mr Modi, merely asking the
nation to address the disabled as ‘divyang’ is insufficient. If you
really mean what you say, please increase the budgetary allocation for
the ‘divyang’ affairs in the forthcoming Budget which was paltry Rs
5000 crore for the year 2014-15. The large number of disabled people
are struggling for the bear minimum, and they are still ‘divyang for
the Prime Minister, it’s a cruel joke with their lives.‘what’s in a
name’, they say.


--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any law?

[P. Subramani]

very well advised harish, there is unnecessary talk on this topic and from 
most of the postings, it seems that Modi is creating problems,  he  hasn't 
solved any of our problems.  This seems to be a more of a conspiracy 
campaign rather than fair discussion.  If people have any objections for the 
word, obviously, it has to be transmitted to the PM.  Moreover, diwang means 
divine part and not divinge bodies as talked in this list.  Some members are 
misleading the group in the sense that our traditions have treated 
disability cruelly without factual basis.  Surely our traditions hasn't 
treated us cruelly, its  leftist/western conceived notion.   Surely, 
disableds haven't till date decided  what's right/good for themselves.  More 
often than not,  everything is imposed on disability.  Mere suggestion 
shouldn't warrant  such big fuss.

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From: "Caution, H P" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under 
any law?




Hi

I really don't see why so much fuss is done on the list. A sensible 
approach is tell the government what is it that we want to be called and 
why. The government has opened up so many channels for citizen's to 
communicate,

Please make use of it.

The PM had merely made a suggestion, it is not cast in stone.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:32 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under 
any law?


Oho, Bichara PM.
Let us spare him.

Namecalling or not, PM or not:


I would even prefer short and simple: "Andhaa" to so-called Divyang

As the former openly expresses what I cannot do,  and the perception of 
the people rather than masking and deifying it as the later does.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:46 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under 
any law?


The topic is being diverted by some people to unnecessarily drag PM into 
the discussion.
Name calling is when somebody with intention of hurting deliberately uses 
a derrogatory term.

It is not in case of Divyang.

On 12/28/15, Preeti Bhutani  wrote:

What about people who have multiple disabilities ?  when
the body loses one sense it is not compensated by other senses in their 
case.

These words are just words, heard numerous times.

When a door closes, God opens a window, they say, but what we need  a
helping hand to get to the window.

That we need , a helping hand so we all do what  we all are capable of.



We won’t become specially abled till we get some “special" helping
hand from government and society ,

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:59 PM, li...@srinivasu.org

wrote:


Sorry... But what are the special abilities that one may have??

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 28-Dec-2015, at 20:42, Aravind Aralaguppe <
aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think specially abled is the rightword
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Lissy Verghese" 
> Date: 28 Dec 2015 14:58
> Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under
> any law?
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled." 
> Cc:
>
> Dear friends,
> It is true that when the body loses one sense, it tries to
> compensate for it with whatever it has. Our dear Prime Minister
> appears a bit sympathetic. Strong words won't help. Let's cooperate
> with our Government by suggesting amendments. If we stand together,
> we will definitely be heard. Let organizations all over India come
> together and put forward constructive suggestions so that the
> efforts of the Government for an inclusive India can be fulfilled.
> Thank you!
> Lissy Verghese
>
>
>> On 12/28/15, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> I had strongly pressed for such penal provisions in the new bill.
>> However, we don't know in which avtar the new bill will be passed 
>> now.

>>
>> Even I would like to penalize our dear PM under any such
>> provision, if
it
>> were there, for calling us Divyang and saying publicly that god
>> gifts compensatory abilities if he snatches away one.
>>
>> Not a bad bargain, na?
>>
>> Were It 

Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise underany law?

[P. Subramani]

it seems that postings are more against pm than the word.  If some one else 
had used useed divyang,  the issue would have been ignored.  This discussion 
is more politically motivated  than substance

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From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise underany 
law?




The topic is being diverted by some people to unnecessarily drag PM
into the discussion.
Name calling is when somebody with intention of hurting deliberately
uses a derrogatory term.
It is not in case of Divyang.

On 12/28/15, Preeti Bhutani  wrote:

What about people who have multiple disabilities ?  when the
body loses one sense it is not compensated by other senses in their case.
These words are just words, heard numerous times.

When a door closes, God opens a window, they say, but what we need  a
helping hand to get to the window.

That we need , a helping hand so we all do what  we all are capable of.



We won’t become specially abled till we get some “special" helping hand
from government and society ,

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:59 PM, li...@srinivasu.org 


wrote:


Sorry... But what are the special abilities that one may have??

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 28-Dec-2015, at 20:42, Aravind Aralaguppe <
aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think speshaly abled is the rightword
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Lissy Verghese" 
> Date: 28 Dec 2015 14:58
> Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any
> law?
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled." 
> Cc:
>
> Dear friends,
> It is true that when the body loses one sense, it tries to compensate
> for it with whatever it has. Our dear Prime Minister appears a bit
> sympathetic. Strong words won't help. Let's cooperate with our
> Government by suggesting amendments. If we stand together, we will
> definitely be heard. Let organizations all over India come together
> and put forward constructive suggestions so that the efforts of the
> Government for an inclusive India can be fulfilled.
> Thank you!
> Lissy Verghese
>
>
>> On 12/28/15, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> I had strongly pressed for such penal provisions in the new bill.
>> However, we don't know in which avtar the new bill will be passed 
>> now.

>>
>> Even I would like to penalize our dear PM under any such provision, 
>> if

it
>> were there, for calling us divyang and saying publicly that god gifts
>> compensatory abilities if he snatches away one.
>>
>> Not a bad bargain, na?
>>
>> Were It true, why not, Mr. PM go in for such a trade-off yourself and
ask
>> all government babus to follow suit?
>>
>>
>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>> नागपुर Nagpur
>>
>> 0712 2806846
>>
>> President
>> VIBEWA
>> Co-Moderator
>> VIB-India
>>
>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>> laughter.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
>> Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:06 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any
law?
>>
>> I don't know the right word for that but I mean insulting with words
>> like kurudan (Tamil), Guddi (Telugu), etc.  Insulting may also 
>> include

>> acts like deriding the way we do things.  Hope it's clear now.
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>>> On 12/28/15, Aravind R  wrote:
>>> sorry for my ignorance.
>>> what is the meaning of "name calling"?
>>> do you mean nick names?
>>>
 On 12/28/15, Kakarla Nageswaraiah  wrote:
 Dear all,

 I often come across incidents of name-calling the blind by the
 sighted
 and my friends want to know whether it is possible to penalise such
 sighted persons who resort to name-calling thereby hurting the 
 blind.
 As far as I know, there's no such provision in the PWD Act. 
 Learned

 experts may kindly enlighten on the matter.

 Thanks and regards.


 --
 కాకర్ల నాగేశ్వరయ్య

 K. Nageswaraiah



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Re: [AI] FYI: 'Disabled rights Bill to be put before cabinet in a day or two'

[P. Subramani]

this group being used for bashing modi/BJP for non-existent reasons.  You 
may not agree with the words, but everyone has the right to suggest words. 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Divyang.   Nobody has in this group 
come up with valid reasons  against the use of word Divyang.  The PM could 
have ignored speaking on disabilities as done by earlier PMs.

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From: "pankaj Singh kushwaha" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FYI: 'Disabled rights Bill to be put before cabinet in a 
day or two'




thankyou disabled activists and scholars, after the  BJP coming in to
power, they have initiated many programmes where  they including
visionary prime minister have explained disability in  very derogatory
way. for example, for the first time, our Honourable  PM prounded
disabled people as "specially challenged people" later the  parliament
report on RPD  gave legitimacy and  recommended that the coming  RPD
should  named as rights of  people with  special ability or
differently abled.  but no organisations including scholars have
raised  objections.  even,  many scholars have raised during  his her
speech but no scholars have written  in news papers and magazine. very
frequently, I would like to share that these terminologies show the
comments of our political street and  their vision towards disability.
such as  if our MP  Jee believes that the disabled people are kurshed
by the god or specially designed by the god than  they will pray for
making correction rather than  doing bisiness for disabled citizen of
india.  please Modi jee think as human bbeing rather as divang.
On 12/8/15, avinash shahi  wrote:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/disabled-rights-bill-to-be-put-before-cabinet-in-a-day-or-two/articleshow/50042016.cms
The RPD Bill is expected to be put before the Union Cabinet for its
consideration "in a day or two", a senior government official said.ET
SPECIAL:Love visual aspect of news? Enjoy this exclusive slideshows
treat!NEW DELHI: The Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill is
expected to be put before the Union Cabinet for its consideration "in
a day or two", a senior government official said here today.

The secretary of the Department of Empowerment of Persons with
Disabilities, Lov Verma, also said the word 'handicapped' used in
national institutes would be replaced with 'impairment' as a mark of
"changing attitude" towards persons with disabilities (PwDs).

Verma's statement came a day after Prime Minister Narendra Modi
suggested the word "viklang" (disabled) used for describing PwDs
should make way for "divyang" (divine body).

"We are bringing the new act, it should come before cabinet in a day
or two," Verma said at a conference on disability here.

The new Bill seeks to replace the Persons with Disabilities (Equal
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act, 1995.

It was introduced in Rajya Sabha in 2014 by the then UPA government
and moved to the Parliamentary Standing Committee of the Ministry of
Social Justice and Empowerment under which the department works.

Verma said the new Bill proposes to increase job reservations to PwDs
from 3 per cent to 5 per cent and also widen scope of disabilities
covered under the Bill from earlier 7 to 19.

"We have also proposed to add a clause that will allow us to increase
scope of number of disabilities under the act if required," he added.

Referring to Modi's suggestion regarding describing PwDs as "divyang",
Verma said, "So, the change of nomenclature... We will follow that up.
The word 'handicapped' is there in many of our national institutes. We
are replacing it with 'impairment'."

The official further said the government has set itself a target of
training 1 lakh PwDs during this year under the National Action Plan
for Skill Trai

--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] 7th pay commission recomendiations for disabled persons

[P. Subramani]

incase of a male being a single parent,  CCL is granted to him
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From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] 7th pay commission recomendiations for disabled persons


In the group, is there any lady with disability who is getting special 
child care allowance?


And what if a man with disability is a single paren’t?
Should he not be entitled to similar allowance?


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

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VIBEWA
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A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 8:54 AM
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Subject: [AI] 7th pay commission recomendiations for disabled persons

As per the Census of India, 2011, there are nearly 26.8 million
Persons with Disabilities (PWDs) in the country, which is nearly 2.21
percent of the total population.
PWDs in Central Government
9.6.3 The government provides three percent reservation in jobs for
PWDs. Apart from this reservation at the entry stage, DoPT has issued
instructions regarding identification of jobs, post-recruitment and
pre-promotion training, providing aids/ assistive devices,
accessibility and barrier free environment at work place, preference
in government accommodation, grievance redressal, and preference in
transfer/posting for PWDs. In a recent notification, a provision has
been made for ten years’ (fifteen years in case of SC/ST and thirteen
years in case of OBC candidates) relaxation in the upper age limit for
direct recruitment to civil posts/services under the Central
Government.
9.6.4 Moreover, there are certain special entitlements as given below:
i. Special Allowance for Child Care for Women with Disabilities at the
rate of Rs.1,500 pm;
ii. Transport Allowance at double the normal rate, subject to a
minimum of Rs.1,000 pm; iii. Constant Attendance Allowance for retired
employees with 100 percent disablement at the rate of Rs.4,500 per
month;
iv. Special Casual Leave for four days in a calendar year for specific
requirements relating to disabilities;
v. Special Casual Leave for ten days in a calendar year for
participation in Conferences/ Seminars/Trainings/Workshops related to
disability and development.
9.6.5 In case the disability is work related, the following additional
provisions are available:
a. Special Disability Leave;
b. Disability Pension;
c. Educational Concession to children of Defence personnel who are
disabled in action.
9.6.6 For employees with differently abled children, Children
Education Allowance and Hostel Subsidy is granted at double rate.

Demands

9.6.7 Associations of employees with disabilities made the following
demands before the Commission:
i. Suitable enhancement in the existing provisions
ii. Provision of Common Room in offices with suitable recreational 
facilities

iii. Additional rebate in House Building Advance and Automobile Advance
iv. Establishment of Welfare Committees in the ministries
Analysis and Recommendations
9.6.8 The National Policy for Persons with Disabilities, 2006,
enunciates the measures that need to be taken by the government to
ensure equal opportunities, protection of rights and full
participation in society for PWDs, in consonance with the principles
enshrined in the Indian Constitution. India is also a signatory to the
UN Convention on the Rights for Persons with Disabilities. Thus,
provision of appropriate measures for employees with disabilities is
the responsibility of the Union Government.
9.6.9 The Commission has made various recommendations regarding PWDs
at different places in the report. They are consolidated here for
ready reference:
i. In recognition of the singular responsibility faced by differently
abled women in raising their children, the Special Allowance for Child
Care for Women with Disabilities has been enhanced from the present
rate of Rs.1,500 pm to Rs.3,000 pm
ii. Transport Allowance at double the normal rate has been retained,
and the minimum amount has been increased from Rs.1,000 pm to Rs.2,250
pm
iii. Children Education Allowance and Hostel Subsidy have been kept at
double rate for differently abled children
iv. Constant Attendance Allowance has been enhanced from Rs.4,500 pm
to Rs.6,750 pm
v. Special Disability Leave has been subsumed in Work Related Illness
and Injury Leave (WRIIL), with improved provisions
vi. Educational Concession, hitherto available only to the children of
Defence personnel killed/missing/disabled in action, has been 

[AI] Income tax circular request!

[P. Subramani]

Friends, I need the latest circular pertaining to the amount eligible for 
exemption for the blind for calculation of income tax.  Thanks and regards, P. 
Subramani


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Re: [AI] SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

[P. Subramani]

   When SCs/STs can have reservations for promotions, why not the disabled 
persons? its  sucidal on those suggesting the disabled not to fight for 
reservations for promotions.  Infact, disabled should have more reservations 
than the  reserved castes/tribes.
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Dear Friends,

I am sure what I am going to write is not going to be popular but all the 
same:


We must fight for non-discrimination at the time of promotional
examinations on the basis of disabilities.  Reservation at the time of
promotion is going to not solve our problem.  What George said about
providing of appropriate work environment, technology etc. is the
right approach rather than always clamouring for reservation.  I think
we all (including me) tend to look for easy way out and then keep
complaining when these demands go unfulfilled.

We have had friends (some of them on the list) who have overcome their
disability and risen to great heights.

I fail to understand as to what is so shocking in the judgment?  We
cannot expect every citizen of this country to look at us in a way
that will suit us.

If we have followed ADA litigation, courts have become weary to give
judgments in favour of the disabled and we fortunately have been very
lucky in India.

I may add that although Maharashtra government was compelled to give
appropriate aids and appliances vide a directive of 2011, many
disabled employees have shown their reluctance to claim these.  So let
us also introspect and then comment.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 9/2/15, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:

SC: Differently abled can’t claim quota in promotion

Amit Anand Choudhary,TNN | Sep 2, 2015, 05.36 AM IST

NEW DELHI: Differently abled persons can claim benefit of reservation in
government jobs only at the time of appointment and cannot get the 
benefit

of the affirmative policy in promotion, the Supreme Court said on Tuesday
while clarifying its earlier verdict.
A bench of Justices Ranjan Gogoi and N V Ramana said the apex court's 
2013
verdict did not hold that the reservation policy could also be extended 
to
promotion in jobs and stressed that the disabled could claim benefits 
only

at the time of recruitment.

 The SC had in 2013 directed the Centre and all state governments to 
provide
three per cent job reservation to disabled persons in all their 
departments,

companies and institutions under Persons with Disabilities (Equal
Opportunities, Protection of Rights and Full Participation) Act which 
came

into force in 1995.


 The Centre submitted that the court had not, while passing order for 
three

percent reservation, dealt with the issue of reservation in promotion and
the disabled could not be allowed to claim the benefits.

 Although the Court had directed that all vacancies under 3% reservation 
be

filled up within three months, the governments failed to comply with the
order in the last two years and there are still 10,000 vacant posts in
central government. Solicitor General Ranjit Kumar assured the court that
all vacancies would be filled up by the end of this financial year.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/SC-Differently-abled-cant-claim-quota-in-promotion/articleshow/48766783.cms

Vikas Kapoor,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
Skype Id: dl_vikas


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