date:20200422

We are running v1.0 still and we have  txt to customer thru twilio
integration.

-Sean


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 10:43 PM Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> Text to customer isn’t a feature yet.
>
>
>
> Are you running v2.0 Sonar already?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:04 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
>
>
> if you only want to do billing Platypus is still around and is relatively
> cheap, but it is literally a billing platform only.
>
>
>
> Sonar is a total CRM as well as business management platform...the whole
> enchilada.
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:58 PM  wrote:
>
> I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.
>
> So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.
>
> Simon is a standup guy.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
>
>
> Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.
>
>
>
> we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat
> but was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so,
> after 18 months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode
> way we moved to Sonar and haven't looked back.
>
>
>
> Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about
> every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet
> tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:
>
> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some
> point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform.
>
>
>
> Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still
> alive?
>
> Opinions?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT movie suggestions

Go watch "the last ship" on Hulu.  Was on TNT...

Sent from my smartphone

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To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT movie suggestions
Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 7:41 PM

Anyone have anything to recommend?
I saw the Ronda Rousey documentary last night.  It was well worth 
watching.
Death of Stalin was good.  
Starting to watch Killing Eve.  
Devs just got weird.  Meh
Westworld is getting weird too.  
Billions starts up again soon... that is one of my favs.  
Little fires was interesting in the beginning but became too much of a 
chick flick for me at the end.
I like High Maintenance.
Better call Saul is coming to and end... sob...
Homeland is ending this week ... sob ...
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-22 Thread Sterling Jacobson

Text to customer isn’t a feature yet.

Are you running v2.0 Sonar already?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

if you only want to do billing Platypus is still around and is relatively 
cheap, but it is literally a billing platform only.

Sonar is a total CRM as well as business management platform...the whole 
enchilada.

-sean

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:58 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.
So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.
Simon is a standup guy.

From: Sean Heskett
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.

we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat but 
was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so, after 18 
months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode way we moved 
to Sonar and haven't looked back.

Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about 
every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet 
tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)

-Sean

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform.

Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still alive?
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

Yes sonar will still integrate with procera/sanvine, also sisae (or however
you spell it) and of course preseem.

In fact if you find something you want sonar to integrate with they will
dedicate the resources to make it happen.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 8:24 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Does Sonar still have some sort of working arrangement with
> Procera/Sandvine?  Or is it only Preseem now?
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:56 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.
>>
>> we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat
>> but was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so,
>> after 18 months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode
>> way we moved to Sonar and haven't looked back.
>>
>> Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just
>> about every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer,
>> fleet tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at
>>> some point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing
>>> platform.
>>>
>>> Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still
>>> alive?
>>> Opinions?
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-22 Thread Chuck McCown

Not wanting to shake his tree.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 22, 2020, at 9:37 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> 
> Plus I thought Charles Wu was a hydroponic farmer.  OK, that’s old, checking 
> LinkedIn, he’s now a Cannabis Strategist.
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-wu
>  
> Maybe he’s a joker, a smoker, and a midnight toker.
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:03 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing
>  
> Bertram bought powercode, they are the current owner. It had changed hands 
> many times since inception, but bertram has been in it for the long haul
>  
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:42 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> I never heard that, are you sure?  I thought Powercode came out of Bertram.  
> Same WISP that I think bought the remnants of Trango, I could be 
> misremembering that last part.
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:03 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing
>  
> Is Charles Wu still a powercode owner?
>  
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:58 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing
>  
> I used Plat years ago and was happy with it. 
> So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar. 
> Simon is a standup guy. 
>  
> From: Sean Heskett
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing
>  
> Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.
>  
> we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat but 
> was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so, after 18 
> months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode way we moved 
> to Sonar and haven't looked back. 
>  
> Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about 
> every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet 
> tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)
>  
> -Sean
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:
> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
> point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform. 
>  
> Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still alive?
> Opinions?
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Re: [AFMUG] Hit the big time - Cambium Case Study

2020-04-22 Thread Jaime Solorza

Degenerate? I don't resemble that remark..I am asymptomatic ...

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 5:32 PM  wrote:

> Degenerates?  I sir am a proud deplorable.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:08 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Hit the big time - Cambium Case Study
>
> Im pretty excited about this.
>
> Cambium has been outstanding to work with. Between linkplanner, CnMaestro,
> CnHeat, EPMP, and CnPilot, projects like this are something that a moron
> like me can fumble through to a clean end product. the only thing non
> cambium here is some backhauls and mikrotiks.
>
> Theres a guy named Josh Powell out of Peoria, guys amazing to find
> solutions on networking who has a great ability to dumb things down so a
> window licker like me can understand it.
>
> Josh Luthmans probably tired of answering my facebook questions too
>
> But, even though when this project is broken down to its components, its
> all simple WISPs stuff, Im still pretty proud to have gotten it done. I
> learned a whole lot
>
>
> https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/COVID-19-Education-Response-04222020.pdf
>
>
> Cambium is amazing, a tiny no account WISP in central Illinois reached out
> to the degenerates at afmug one night, and Scott Imhoff reaches back the
> next day. Next thing you know we are keeping continuity for under-served
> student families. I got to deal with all kinds of cambium folks. they
> showed me how to use the products more efficiently, Theyre really a solid
> company, and im no vendor fanboy.
>
> The cool thing is we opened this up across our territory to all the school
> districts. other than PMP load, it will not have a huge amount of impact,
> since it egresses the school network and flows opposite our normal
> back-haul traffic in most cases. We are looking to expand this to a
> permanent program.
>
> We did find out the rural homework gap, in our area at least is not huge,
> one of the districts had already achieved 100 percent access, I cant stop
> talking them up in our community for that.
>
> We got 6 names today, 2 were good for sure, one shows good, but is in a
> pot i normally wouldnt have considered, 2 are unservicable, but we will
> drive by and verify and one is in range of one of the school Wifi hotspots.
>
> I could go on and on
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

Plus I thought Charles Wu was a hydroponic farmer.  OK, that’s old, checking 
LinkedIn, he’s now a Cannabis Strategist.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-wu

 

Maybe he’s a joker, a smoker, and a midnight toker.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

 

Bertram bought powercode, they are the current owner. It had changed hands many 
times since inception, but bertram has been in it for the long haul

 

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:42 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I never heard that, are you sure?  I thought Powercode came out of Bertram.  
Same WISP that I think bought the remnants of Trango, I could be misremembering 
that last part.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com  
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

 

Is Charles Wu still a powercode owner?

 

From: ch...@wbmfg.com   

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:58 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

 

I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.  

So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.  

Simon is a standup guy.  

 

From: Sean Heskett 

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

 

Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed. 

 

we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat but 
was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so, after 18 
months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode way we moved 
to Sonar and haven't looked back.  

 

Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about 
every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet 
tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)

 

-Sean

 

 

 

 

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wrote:

I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform.  

 

Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still alive?

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Re: [AFMUG] billing

Bertram bought powercode, they are the current owner. It had changed hands
many times since inception, but bertram has been in it for the long haul

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:42 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I never heard that, are you sure?  I thought Powercode came out of
> Bertram.  Same WISP that I think bought the remnants of Trango, I could be
> misremembering that last part.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:03 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
>
>
> Is Charles Wu still a powercode owner?
>
>
>
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:58 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
>
>
> I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.
>
> So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.
>
> Simon is a standup guy.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
>
>
> Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.
>
>
>
> we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat
> but was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so,
> after 18 months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode
> way we moved to Sonar and haven't looked back.
>
>
>
> Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about
> every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet
> tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:
>
> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some
> point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform.
>
>
>
> Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still
> alive?
>
> Opinions?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

I never heard that, are you sure?  I thought Powercode came out of Bertram.  
Same WISP that I think bought the remnants of Trango, I could be misremembering 
that last part.

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

Is Charles Wu still a powercode owner?

From: ch...@wbmfg.com   

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:58 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.  

So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.  

Simon is a standup guy.  

From: Sean Heskett 

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed. 

we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat but 
was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so, after 18 
months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode way we moved 
to Sonar and haven't looked back.  

Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about 
every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet 
tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)

-Sean

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > 
wrote:

I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform.  

Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still alive?

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Re: [AFMUG] billing

2020-04-22 Thread Jason McKemie

Does Sonar still have some sort of working arrangement with
Procera/Sandvine?  Or is it only Preseem now?

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:56 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.
>
> we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat
> but was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so,
> after 18 months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode
> way we moved to Sonar and haven't looked back.
>
> Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about
> every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet
> tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:
>
>> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at
>> some point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing
>> platform.
>>
>> Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still
>> alive?
>> Opinions?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT movie suggestions

the level of weird is without measure when it comes to the things i would
have ronda rousey do to me. they could film it as a movie recommendation,
but if you could find it on one of the banned content servers, after having
watched it, you would have a feeling of being dirty that simply will never
wash away, you will carry that with you for the rest of your life

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:42 PM  wrote:

> Anyone have anything to recommend?
> I saw the Ronda Rousey documentary last night.  It was well worth watching.
> Death of Stalin was good.
> Starting to watch Killing Eve.
> Devs just got weird.  Meh
> Westworld is getting weird too.
> Billions starts up again soon... that is one of my favs.
> Little fires was interesting in the beginning but became too much of a
> chick flick for me at the end.
> I like High Maintenance.
> Better call Saul is coming to and end... sob...
> Homeland is ending this week ... sob ...
> BlackAF is interesting.  Especially if you read up on the creator.  He did
> Blackish.  I think I will tire of it soon.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT movie suggestions

Westworld is just now getting weird?  You must have a high tolerance for
weird.

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:42 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT movie suggestions

Anyone have anything to recommend?

I saw the Ronda Rousey documentary last night.  It was well worth watching.

Death of Stalin was good.  

Starting to watch Killing Eve.  

Devs just got weird.  Meh

Westworld is getting weird too.  

Billions starts up again soon... that is one of my favs.  

Little fires was interesting in the beginning but became too much of a chick
flick for me at the end.

I like High Maintenance.

Better call Saul is coming to and end... sob...

Homeland is ending this week ... sob ...

BlackAF is interesting.  Especially if you read up on the creator.  He did
Blackish.  I think I will tire of it soon.

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[AFMUG] OT one of the perks of retirement

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Re: [AFMUG] billing

if you only want to do billing Platypus is still around and is relatively
cheap, but it is literally a billing platform only.

Sonar is a total CRM as well as business management platform...the whole
enchilada.

-sean


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:58 PM  wrote:

> I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.
> So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.
> Simon is a standup guy.
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
> Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.
>
> we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat
> but was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so,
> after 18 months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode
> way we moved to Sonar and haven't looked back.
>
> Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about
> every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet
> tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:
>
>> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at
>> some point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing
>> platform.
>>
>> Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still
>> alive?
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

Is Charles Wu still a powercode owner?

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:58 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.  
So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.  
Simon is a standup guy.  

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed. 

we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat but 
was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so, after 18 
months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode way we moved 
to Sonar and haven't looked back.  

Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about 
every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet 
tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)

-Sean

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:

  I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
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I used Plat years ago and was happy with it.  
So glad to hear you are happy with Sonar.  
Simon is a standup guy.  

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed. 

we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat but 
was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so, after 18 
months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode way we moved 
to Sonar and haven't looked back.  

Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about 
every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet 
tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)

-Sean

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:

  I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
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  Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still alive?
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Sonar is awesome, you won't be disappointed.

we started with platypus, moved to powercode, it was an upgrade from plat
but was way too clunky and at the time powercode couldn't do RADIUS so,
after 18 months of trying to make our business model fit to the powercode
way we moved to Sonar and haven't looked back.

Sonar is very forward thinking with their service and they have just about
every integration under the sun you could think of (text to customer, fleet
tracking, preseem QoS, snail mail marketing etc.)

-Sean

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:59 PM  wrote:

> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some
> point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform.
>
> Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still
> alive?
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

Yeah, FISP.  Clean, zero back end systems.  Just keep the light moving and 
collect the revenue.At least that is what I am attempting to pull off...

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:21 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I don’t have Sonar, but everyone tells me I should.  And it integrates with 
Preseem, so I’d do that for bandwidth management.

Must be nice to do a greenfield WISP without all the legacy baggage of past 
decisions.  Or maybe you mean FISP, but still.

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

Are BMUs still a thing?  Who makes the BMU hardware?

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:01 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new version cleaned 
up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be telling the boss 
we need to look elsewhere

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:59 PM  wrote:

  I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
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  Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still alive?

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[AFMUG] OT movie suggestions

Anyone have anything to recommend?
I saw the Ronda Rousey documentary last night.  It was well worth watching.
Death of Stalin was good.  
Starting to watch Killing Eve.  
Devs just got weird.  Meh
Westworld is getting weird too.  
Billions starts up again soon... that is one of my favs.  
Little fires was interesting in the beginning but became too much of a chick 
flick for me at the end.
I like High Maintenance.
Better call Saul is coming to and end... sob...
Homeland is ending this week ... sob ...
BlackAF is interesting.  Especially if you read up on the creator.  He did 
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

I like the idea of Sonar.  I don’t have to host anything. I don’t have to 
backup anything.  I don’t have to upgrade anything.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:21 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I don’t have Sonar, but everyone tells me I should.  And it integrates with 
Preseem, so I’d do that for bandwidth management.

Must be nice to do a greenfield WISP without all the legacy baggage of past 
decisions.  Or maybe you mean FISP, but still.

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

Are BMUs still a thing?  Who makes the BMU hardware?

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:01 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new version cleaned 
up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be telling the boss 
we need to look elsewhere

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:59 PM  wrote:

  I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing platform.  

  Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still alive?

  Opinions?

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Re: [AFMUG] billing

Yes.  Mikrotik won't let you monitor snmp etc 

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From: "Steve Jones" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: [AFMUG] billing
Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 7:16 PM

BMUs are gone, you can use mikrotik, but they wont give you a virtual bmu to 
make them useful, not sure whythey want you to use seasawsai or whatever
you can host it wherever, locally is better though



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Are BMUs still a thing?  Who makes the BMU hardware?



 


From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:01 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing


 


I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new 
version cleaned up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be 
telling the boss we need to look elsewhere

 


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I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So 
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platform.  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] billing

They have made it talk to mikrotik now too. Or preseem or...  Or

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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: [AFMUG] billing
Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 7:09 PM

Are BMUs still a thing?  Who makes the BMU hardware?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new 
version cleaned up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be 
telling the boss we need to look elsewhere

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:59 PM 
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I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So 
at some point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing
platform.  

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Re: [AFMUG] billing

We have ours on a vultr host.  Anywhere in the cloud can work. At one point a 
generation of powercode recommended this as a stop gap measure while we were 
upgrading some internal server 

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From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: [AFMUG] billing
Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 7:09 PM

Do you have to host it locally?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new 
version cleaned up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be 
telling the boss we need to look elsewhere

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:59 PM 
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platform.  

Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is 
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Re: [AFMUG] billing

I don’t have Sonar, but everyone tells me I should.  And it integrates with 
Preseem, so I’d do that for bandwidth management.

 

Must be nice to do a greenfield WISP without all the legacy baggage of past 
decisions.  Or maybe you mean FISP, but still.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

 

Are BMUs still a thing?  Who makes the BMU hardware?

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:01 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

 

I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new version cleaned 
up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be telling the boss 
we need to look elsewhere

 

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wrote:

I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
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BMUs are gone, you can use mikrotik, but they wont give you a virtual bmu
to make them useful, not sure why
they want you to use seasawsai or whatever
you can host it wherever, locally is better though


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:10 PM  wrote:

> Are BMUs still a thing?  Who makes the BMU hardware?
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:01 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] billing
>
> I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new version
> cleaned up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be
> telling the boss we need to look elsewhere
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:59 PM  wrote:
>
>> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at
>> some point I will once again have to try to choose the best billing
>> platform.
>>
>> Leaking toward Sonar.  Have used Plat in the past.  Is Powercode still
>> alive?
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[AFMUG] OT some mirth

Was watching a comic on TV and it reminded me of something

When my oldest daughter was fixin to get married 15 or so years ago, she 
obtained a book that had a title something similar to : a gay man’s guide to 
pleasuring a man.  I had no idea she did this.   

I picked up some guys for some kind of business meeting and they got in the 
back seat of my car.
Later that day I discovered that book laying on the back seat floor of the car. 
 

I can’t remember who they guys were but they were from out of state and I 
picked them up at the airport I think.  
If you were one of those guys... well I did not read the book.   Sorry to get 
your hopes up...
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Are BMUs still a thing?  Who makes the BMU hardware?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new version cleaned 
up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be telling the boss 
we need to look elsewhere

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:59 PM  wrote:

  I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
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Do you have to host it locally?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] billing

I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new version cleaned 
up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be telling the boss 
we need to look elsewhere

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:59 PM  wrote:

  I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some 
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I love to hate powercode. ITs been pretty functional, the new version
cleaned up alot, broke alot. im not mad enough at them this week to be
telling the boss we need to look elsewhere

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:59 PM  wrote:

> I will probably be launching a new network this calendar year.  So at some
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>
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[AFMUG] billing

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Re: [AFMUG] Hit the big time - Cambium Case Study

Degenerates?  I sir am a proud deplorable.

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Hit the big time - Cambium Case Study

Im pretty excited about this.  

Cambium has been outstanding to work with. Between linkplanner, CnMaestro, 
CnHeat, EPMP, and CnPilot, projects like this are something that a moron like 
me can fumble through to a clean end product. the only thing non cambium here 
is some backhauls and mikrotiks. 

Theres a guy named Josh Powell out of Peoria, guys amazing to find solutions on 
networking who has a great ability to dumb things down so a window licker like 
me can understand it.

Josh Luthmans probably tired of answering my facebook questions too

But, even though when this project is broken down to its components, its all 
simple WISPs stuff, Im still pretty proud to have gotten it done. I learned a 
whole lot

https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/COVID-19-Education-Response-04222020.pdf

Cambium is amazing, a tiny no account WISP in central Illinois reached out to 
the degenerates at afmug one night, and Scott Imhoff reaches back the next day. 
Next thing you know we are keeping continuity for under-served student 
families. I got to deal with all kinds of cambium folks. they showed me how to 
use the products more efficiently, Theyre really a solid company, and im no 
vendor fanboy.

The cool thing is we opened this up across our territory to all the school 
districts. other than PMP load, it will not have a huge amount of impact, since 
it egresses the school network and flows opposite our normal back-haul traffic 
in most cases. We are looking to expand this to a permanent program.

We did find out the rural homework gap, in our area at least is not huge, one 
of the districts had already achieved 100 percent access, I cant stop talking 
them up in our community for that.

We got 6 names today, 2 were good for sure, one shows good, but is in a pot i 
normally wouldnt have considered, 2 are unservicable, but we will drive by and 
verify and one is in range of one of the school Wifi hotspots.

I could go on and on

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[AFMUG] Hit the big time - Cambium Case Study

Im pretty excited about this.

Cambium has been outstanding to work with. Between linkplanner, CnMaestro,
CnHeat, EPMP, and CnPilot, projects like this are something that a moron
like me can fumble through to a clean end product. the only thing non
cambium here is some backhauls and mikrotiks.

Theres a guy named Josh Powell out of Peoria, guys amazing to find
solutions on networking who has a great ability to dumb things down so a
window licker like me can understand it.

Josh Luthmans probably tired of answering my facebook questions too

But, even though when this project is broken down to its components, its
all simple WISPs stuff, Im still pretty proud to have gotten it done. I
learned a whole lot

https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/COVID-19-Education-Response-04222020.pdf

Cambium is amazing, a tiny no account WISP in central Illinois reached out
to the degenerates at afmug one night, and Scott Imhoff reaches back the
next day. Next thing you know we are keeping continuity for under-served
student families. I got to deal with all kinds of cambium folks. they
showed me how to use the products more efficiently, Theyre really a solid
company, and im no vendor fanboy.

The cool thing is we opened this up across our territory to all the school
districts. other than PMP load, it will not have a huge amount of impact,
since it egresses the school network and flows opposite our normal
back-haul traffic in most cases. We are looking to expand this to a
permanent program.

We did find out the rural homework gap, in our area at least is not huge,
one of the districts had already achieved 100 percent access, I cant stop
talking them up in our community for that.

We got 6 names today, 2 were good for sure, one shows good, but is in a pot
i normally wouldnt have considered, 2 are unservicable, but we will drive
by and verify and one is in range of one of the school Wifi hotspots.

I could go on and on
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Re: [AFMUG] CNMaestro Relay Question

2020-04-22 Thread Joe Novak

I added a network, 'Customers'. Everything we have is nested under
'default' (our tower sites). This is where I nest all 'customer' related
equipment. Just as an example. I prefer to handle it this way.

[image: image.png]




Joe

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:31 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> yep, once you create the site it will nest them. but sometimes it will rob
> the sm. I think it only allows so many layers of nesting. sometimes the
> r190/195 will nest, sometimes they wont. eventually it may come down to
> RTFM, but thats like asking for directions from a woman, complete man card
> revocation.
>
> Cambium is really good about helping through issues and answering these
> kind of questions though. Once you invite them to view your account they
> show you all the ways youre using cnmaestro wrong. we would probably know
> all this, but the whole RTFM thing. Linke on the routers, theres a
> fairly easy process for having custom ESSID/passkeys without having to
> create a WLAN for each customer router... I would have known that, but RTFM
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:21 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> What is the 'best practice' to setup CN Maestro for a customers relay?
>>
>> 5ghz EPMP SM installed on a Barn, EPMP2.4 radio in AP mode facing House,
>> EPMP2.4radio in SM Mode facing Barn.  Usually I just run the 5ghz SM off
>> the AUX port of the 2.4 radio.  Then I only have to have a single Power
>> supply and Cable run to wherever the power is.
>>
>> I thought that CNMaestro was supposed to be smart enough to figure out
>> that equipment (especially if it was all Cambium equipment) was nested
>> all automagically, but I guess not.  Are you supposed to create a new
>> 'tower' for the barn, and then put the 2.4 equipment under that?  I'm
>> starting to load more things into CNMaestro, and we have a handful of
>> these scenarios.  If they're all supposed to be towers, that seems like
>> it will get out of hand pretty quick.  And it's not truly a tower, it's
>> just a radio on the guys barn that will only ever feed his house.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Saisei

2020-04-22 Thread Matt Hoppes

We just got the box Monday... configuring it Friday, and then into the 
network to test.


On 4/22/20 5:14 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Anyone using Saisei?   Pros cons?




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[AFMUG] Saisei

2020-04-22 Thread SmarterBroadband

Anyone using Saisei?   Pros cons?

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[AFMUG] OT: Stuffs finally moving

this is a tool I ordered at the beginning of January. I believe the
original shipment disappeared in customs quarantine since it processed
through wuhan the day they closed the port.

2020-04-18 20:43

ISC CHICAGO IL (USPS), Processed Through Facility -> Your item has been
processed through our facility in ISC CHICAGO IL (USPS) at 8:43 pm on April
18, 2020.


Only 3 months, but its finally going to be here.


hopefully the rest of the supply chain is opening soon


this time next year, I dont see china shutting down having nearly as much
impact, production will be geographically diverse like it should have been
in the first place.



Im still licking this when i get it. kungflu cant catch me
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Re: [AFMUG] CNMaestro Relay Question

yep, once you create the site it will nest them. but sometimes it will rob
the sm. I think it only allows so many layers of nesting. sometimes the
r190/195 will nest, sometimes they wont. eventually it may come down to
RTFM, but thats like asking for directions from a woman, complete man card
revocation.

Cambium is really good about helping through issues and answering these
kind of questions though. Once you invite them to view your account they
show you all the ways youre using cnmaestro wrong. we would probably know
all this, but the whole RTFM thing. Linke on the routers, theres a
fairly easy process for having custom ESSID/passkeys without having to
create a WLAN for each customer router... I would have known that, but RTFM

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:21 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> What is the 'best practice' to setup CN Maestro for a customers relay?
>
> 5ghz EPMP SM installed on a Barn, EPMP2.4 radio in AP mode facing House,
> EPMP2.4radio in SM Mode facing Barn.  Usually I just run the 5ghz SM off
> the AUX port of the 2.4 radio.  Then I only have to have a single Power
> supply and Cable run to wherever the power is.
>
> I thought that CNMaestro was supposed to be smart enough to figure out
> that equipment (especially if it was all Cambium equipment) was nested
> all automagically, but I guess not.  Are you supposed to create a new
> 'tower' for the barn, and then put the 2.4 equipment under that?  I'm
> starting to load more things into CNMaestro, and we have a handful of
> these scenarios.  If they're all supposed to be towers, that seems like
> it will get out of hand pretty quick.  And it's not truly a tower, it's
> just a radio on the guys barn that will only ever feed his house.
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[AFMUG] CNMaestro Relay Question

2020-04-22 Thread Nate Burke


What is the 'best practice' to setup CN Maestro for a customers relay?

5ghz EPMP SM installed on a Barn, EPMP2.4 radio in AP mode facing House, 
EPMP2.4radio in SM Mode facing Barn.  Usually I just run the 5ghz SM off 
the AUX port of the 2.4 radio.  Then I only have to have a single Power 
supply and Cable run to wherever the power is.


I thought that CNMaestro was supposed to be smart enough to figure out 
that equipment (especially if it was all Cambium equipment) was nested 
all automagically, but I guess not.  Are you supposed to create a new 
'tower' for the barn, and then put the 2.4 equipment under that?  I'm 
starting to load more things into CNMaestro, and we have a handful of 
these scenarios.  If they're all supposed to be towers, that seems like 
it will get out of hand pretty quick.  And it's not truly a tower, it's 
just a radio on the guys barn that will only ever feed his house.


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[AFMUG] Apple Mail 0-Day No Interaction Required

2020-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett

https://blog.zecops.com/vulnerabilities/unassisted-ios-attacks-via-mobilemail-maild-in-the-wild/
 






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Midwest Internet Exchange 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT - why America can't build

2020-04-22 Thread Seth Mattinen


On 4/22/20 9:23 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

There you go, we can’t even do little stuff anymore.




We had Vine. Then it sold to Tiwtter who killed it, but the users still 
liked/wanted the short-form video thing and Tik Tok filled that void.


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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Thank you.

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:54 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

we used your chain mount on a tower, worked well

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:37 PM  wrote:

  I have never used chains on a steel pole.  I have on wooden poles.  

  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:32 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

  Chains work as well

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 10:52 AM Steve Jones  wrote:

nm on the bading slits, i was looking at it backward and thought he was 
using bands instead of ubolts

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:50 AM Steve Jones  
wrote:

  unless those have banding slits cut in them, he may want to put some 
mattresses on the ground to catch the radios when the bands tear. 

  That being said, assuming hes using the 3/4-1 inch bands and the style we 
used to use, yes, you hammer the clamps. its kind of like kneading dough, you 
have to roll them with the hammer. I havent used that tool in like 8 years 
though

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:

This is what he is installing:
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could 
critique it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put up on 
steel poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your brackets 
is he installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't slipping through 
slots in the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened properly.   

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:

  Yes, he has a banding tool.  

  From: Carl Peterson 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

  Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool? 

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:

Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole 
mounts onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never 
used bands on a steel pole.

Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending 
the strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of 
expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip. 

This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a 
call if any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some 
rubber to put under the mount to increase friction.  
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

we used your chain mount on a tower, worked well

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:37 PM  wrote:

> I have never used chains on a steel pole.  I have on wooden poles.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:32 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>
> Chains work as well
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 10:52 AM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> nm on the bading slits, i was looking at it backward and thought he was
>> using bands instead of ubolts
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:50 AM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> unless those have banding slits cut in them, he may want to put some
>>> mattresses on the ground to catch the radios when the bands tear.
>>>
>>> That being said, assuming hes using the 3/4-1 inch bands and the style
>>> we used to use, yes, you hammer the clamps. its kind of like kneading
>>> dough, you have to roll them with the hammer. I havent used that tool in
>>> like 8 years though
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:
>>>
 This is what he is installing:
 https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/

 *From:* Carl Peterson
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

 If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could
 critique it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put
 up on steel poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your
 brackets is he installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't
 slipping through slots in the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened
 properly.



 On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:

> Yes, he has a banding tool.
>
> *From:* Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>
> Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:
>
>> Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole
>> mounts onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have 
>> never
>> used bands on a steel pole.
>>
>> Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the
>> strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of
>> expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip.
>>
>> This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call
>> if any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some
>> rubber to put under the mount to increase friction.
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

I have never used chains on a steel pole.  I have on wooden poles.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:32 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Chains work as well

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 10:52 AM Steve Jones  wrote:

  nm on the bading slits, i was looking at it backward and thought he was using 
bands instead of ubolts

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:50 AM Steve Jones  
wrote:

unless those have banding slits cut in them, he may want to put some 
mattresses on the ground to catch the radios when the bands tear. 

That being said, assuming hes using the 3/4-1 inch bands and the style we 
used to use, yes, you hammer the clamps. its kind of like kneading dough, you 
have to roll them with the hammer. I havent used that tool in like 8 years 
though

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:

  This is what he is installing:
  https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/

  From: Carl Peterson 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

  If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could 
critique it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put up on 
steel poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your brackets 
is he installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't slipping through 
slots in the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened properly.   

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:

Yes, he has a banding tool.  

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:

  Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole 
mounts onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never 
used bands on a steel pole.

  Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the 
strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of expensive 
radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip. 

  This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call 
if any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber 
to put under the mount to increase friction.  
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

2020-04-22 Thread Jaime Solorza

Chains work as well

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 10:52 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> nm on the bading slits, i was looking at it backward and thought he was
> using bands instead of ubolts
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:50 AM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> unless those have banding slits cut in them, he may want to put some
>> mattresses on the ground to catch the radios when the bands tear.
>>
>> That being said, assuming hes using the 3/4-1 inch bands and the style we
>> used to use, yes, you hammer the clamps. its kind of like kneading dough,
>> you have to roll them with the hammer. I havent used that tool in like 8
>> years though
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> This is what he is installing:
>>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/
>>>
>>> *From:* Carl Peterson
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>>>
>>> If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could
>>> critique it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put
>>> up on steel poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your
>>> brackets is he installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't
>>> slipping through slots in the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened
>>> properly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:
>>>
 Yes, he has a banding tool.

 *From:* Carl Peterson
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

 Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool?

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:

> Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole
> mounts onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have 
> never
> used bands on a steel pole.
>
> Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the
> strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of
> expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip.
>
> This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call
> if any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some
> rubber to put under the mount to increase friction.
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

They do have slits.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

unless those have banding slits cut in them, he may want to put some mattresses 
on the ground to catch the radios when the bands tear. 

That being said, assuming hes using the 3/4-1 inch bands and the style we used 
to use, yes, you hammer the clamps. its kind of like kneading dough, you have 
to roll them with the hammer. I havent used that tool in like 8 years though

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:

  This is what he is installing:
  https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/

  From: Carl Peterson 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

  If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could critique 
it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put up on steel 
poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your brackets is he 
installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't slipping through slots in 
the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened properly.   

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:

Yes, he has a banding tool.  

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:

  Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole mounts 
onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never used bands 
on a steel pole.

  Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the 
strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of expensive 
radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip. 

  This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if 
any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber to 
put under the mount to increase friction.  
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Much thanks.

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:48 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

spoke with him.   He figured it out.   

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:

  This is what he is installing:
  https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/

  From: Carl Peterson 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

  If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could critique 
it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put up on steel 
poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your brackets is he 
installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't slipping through slots in 
the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened properly.   

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:

Yes, he has a banding tool.  

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:

  Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole mounts 
onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never used bands 
on a steel pole.

  Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the 
strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of expensive 
radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip. 

  This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if 
any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber to 
put under the mount to increase friction.  
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

nm on the bading slits, i was looking at it backward and thought he was
using bands instead of ubolts

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:50 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> unless those have banding slits cut in them, he may want to put some
> mattresses on the ground to catch the radios when the bands tear.
>
> That being said, assuming hes using the 3/4-1 inch bands and the style we
> used to use, yes, you hammer the clamps. its kind of like kneading dough,
> you have to roll them with the hammer. I havent used that tool in like 8
> years though
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:
>
>> This is what he is installing:
>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/
>>
>> *From:* Carl Peterson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>>
>> If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could
>> critique it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put
>> up on steel poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your
>> brackets is he installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't
>> slipping through slots in the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened
>> properly.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, he has a banding tool.
>>>
>>> *From:* Carl Peterson
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>>>
>>> Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool?
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:
>>>
 Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole
 mounts onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never
 used bands on a steel pole.

 Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the
 strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of
 expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip.

 This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if
 any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber
 to put under the mount to increase friction.
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

unless those have banding slits cut in them, he may want to put some
mattresses on the ground to catch the radios when the bands tear.

That being said, assuming hes using the 3/4-1 inch bands and the style we
used to use, yes, you hammer the clamps. its kind of like kneading dough,
you have to roll them with the hammer. I havent used that tool in like 8
years though

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:

> This is what he is installing:
> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/
>
> *From:* Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>
> If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could
> critique it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put
> up on steel poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your
> brackets is he installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't
> slipping through slots in the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened
> properly.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:
>
>> Yes, he has a banding tool.
>>
>> *From:* Carl Peterson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>>
>> Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole
>>> mounts onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never
>>> used bands on a steel pole.
>>>
>>> Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the
>>> strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of
>>> expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip.
>>>
>>> This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if
>>> any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber
>>> to put under the mount to increase friction.
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>>
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>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

That's a pretty cool mount.  Would have saved me a whole lot of time in the
past.


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:

> This is what he is installing:
> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/
>
> *From:* Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>
> If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could
> critique it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put
> up on steel poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your
> brackets is he installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't
> slipping through slots in the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened
> properly.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:
>
>> Yes, he has a banding tool.
>>
>> *From:* Carl Peterson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>>
>> Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole
>>> mounts onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never
>>> used bands on a steel pole.
>>>
>>> Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the
>>> strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of
>>> expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip.
>>>
>>> This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if
>>> any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber
>>> to put under the mount to increase friction.
>>> --
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>>
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>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

spoke with him.   He figured it out.


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:46 AM  wrote:

> This is what he is installing:
> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/
>
> *From:* Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>
> If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could
> critique it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put
> up on steel poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your
> brackets is he installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't
> slipping through slots in the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened
> properly.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:
>
>> Yes, he has a banding tool.
>>
>> *From:* Carl Peterson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>>
>> Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole
>>> mounts onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never
>>> used bands on a steel pole.
>>>
>>> Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the
>>> strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of
>>> expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip.
>>>
>>> This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if
>>> any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber
>>> to put under the mount to increase friction.
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>>
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>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - why America can't build

the first paragraph is enough to know it wasnt worth reading further


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:24 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> There you go, we can’t even do little stuff anymore.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:20 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - why America can't build
>
>
>
> Tik-Tok is an chinese app…
>
>
>
> *Gino** Villarini *
> Founder/President
> @gvillarini
> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
> m:
>
> [image: aeronet-logo] 
>
> [image: inc500] 
>
> [image: fb-logo] 
>
> [image: insta-logo] 
>
> [image: in-logo] 
>
>
> [image: tw-logo]
> 
>
>
> [image: yt-logo]
> 
>
> www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968
>
> *From: *AF  on behalf of Ken Hohhof <
> af...@kwisp.com>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Date: *Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 11:40 AM
> *To: *'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT - why America can't build
>
>
>
>
> https://www.vox.com/2020/4/22/21228469/marc-andreessen-build-government-coronavirus
>
>
>
> If you consider Ezra Klein biased or too political, you can go directly to
> Marc Andreessen’s essay.  But I read the Klein article and it didn’t seem
> biased, in the sense that it pretty much blames everybody equally.  Where
> is the problem?  We are the problem.  We are all the problem.
>
>
>
> https://a16z.com/2020/04/18/its-time-to-build/
> 
>
>
>
> I guess it resonates with me, because I do find myself asking why can’t we
> do big things anymore?  Or solve big problems?  Where is our Panama Canal,
> or Hoover Dam, or eliminating polio?  Is Fortnite or Tik-Tok the best we
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

This is what he is installing:
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/heavy-duty-pole-mount-1/

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could critique it. 
 I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put up on steel poles 
10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your brackets is he 
installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't slipping through slots in 
the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened properly.   

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:

  Yes, he has a banding tool.  

  From: Carl Peterson 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

  Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool? 

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:

Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole mounts 
onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never used bands 
on a steel pole.

Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the 
strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of expensive 
radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip. 

This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if any 
of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber to put 
under the mount to increase friction.  
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Can he give you a call?

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:37 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could critique it. 
 I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put up on steel poles 
10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your brackets is he 
installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't slipping through slots in 
the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened properly.   

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:

  Yes, he has a banding tool.  

  From: Carl Peterson 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

  Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool? 

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU

  On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:

Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole mounts 
onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never used bands 
on a steel pole.

Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the 
strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of expensive 
radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip. 

This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if any 
of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber to put 
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

2020-04-22 Thread Lewis Bergman

I have never had an issue if you know how to use the banding tool.
Hopefully the manufacturer has a video if it isn't the one posted by Carl.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:

> Yes, he has a banding tool.
>
> *From:* Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>
> Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:
>
>> Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole mounts
>> onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never used
>> bands on a steel pole.
>>
>> Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the
>> strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of
>> expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip.
>>
>> This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if
>> any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber
>> to put under the mount to increase friction.
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

If he can post a quick video of what he is doing I'm sure we could critique
it.  I haven't done it myself in a decade but all the gear I put up on
steel poles 10 years ago is still up and hasn't moved.  Which of your
brackets is he installing?  Only thing I can think is the band isn't
slipping through slots in the bracket and thus isn't getting tightened
properly.



On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:33 AM  wrote:

> Yes, he has a banding tool.
>
> *From:* Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question
>
> Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU
>
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:
>
>> Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole mounts
>> onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never used
>> bands on a steel pole.
>>
>> Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the
>> strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of
>> expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip.
>>
>> This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if
>> any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber
>> to put under the mount to increase friction.
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Yes, he has a banding tool.  

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:30 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:

  Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole mounts 
onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never used bands 
on a steel pole.

  Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the strap?  
He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of expensive radios way 
up in the air and is having the strap slip. 

  This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if any 
of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber to put 
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Re: [AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Slip?  I'm assuming he has a banding tool?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nLfRYjlnKU

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:26 AM  wrote:

> Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole mounts
> onto a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never used
> bands on a steel pole.
>
> Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the
> strap?  He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of
> expensive radios way up in the air and is having the strap slip.
>
> This is fairly time sensitive.  I am sure Mitch would welcome a call if
> any of you have some experience with this.  I suggested getting some rubber
> to put under the mount to increase friction.
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[AFMUG] Stainless banding - Time Sensitive Question

Mitch Koep is in the field attempting to installing one of my pole mounts onto 
a steel monopole with stainless bands.  I personally have never used bands on a 
steel pole.

Any tips or pointers?  Does he hammer the clip flat after bending the strap?  
He is trying it down at the base before hanging a bunch of expensive radios way 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - why America can't build

There you go, we can’t even do little stuff anymore.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - why America can't build

Tik-Tok is an chinese app… 

Gino Villarini 
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@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 
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  www.aeronetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 
Guaynabo, PR 00968

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > on behalf 
of Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 11:40 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] OT - why America can't build

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/22/21228469/marc-andreessen-build-government-coronavirus

If you consider Ezra Klein biased or too political, you can go directly to Marc 
Andreessen’s essay.  But I read the Klein article and it didn’t seem biased, in 
the sense that it pretty much blames everybody equally.  Where is the problem?  
We are the problem.  We are all the problem.

https://a16z.com/2020/04/18/its-time-to-build/ 

I guess it resonates with me, because I do find myself asking why can’t we do 
big things anymore?  Or solve big problems?  Where is our Panama Canal, or 
Hoover Dam, or eliminating polio?  Is Fortnite or Tik-Tok the best we dan do?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT - why America can't build

2020-04-22 Thread Gino A. Villarini

Tik-Tok is an chinese app…


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[https://image.ibb.co/dqqq4U/tw-logo.png] 

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From: AF  on behalf of Ken Hohhof 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 11:40 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT - why America can't build

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/22/21228469/marc-andreessen-build-government-coronavirus

If you consider Ezra Klein biased or too political, you can go directly to Marc 
Andreessen’s essay.  But I read the Klein article and it didn’t seem biased, in 
the sense that it pretty much blames everybody equally.  Where is the problem?  
We are the problem.  We are all the problem.

https://a16z.com/2020/04/18/its-time-to-build/

I guess it resonates with me, because I do find myself asking why can’t we do 
big things anymore?  Or solve big problems?  Where is our Panama Canal, or 
Hoover Dam, or eliminating polio?  Is Fortnite or Tik-Tok the best we dan do?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - why America can't build

2020-04-22 Thread Lewis Bergman

I remember a civil engineer lamenting the award of some enormous project to
the Chinese over a US company. I want to say it was some gigantic structure
(maybe a bridge?) in Seattle. The engineer was stating that due to the
scale of the project new facilities and equipment would have to be built to
build the end result. He said that this one award would setup China's
ability to be the single awardee for projects of this scale for generations
to come as their capital advantage would be unbeatable.

So, thats part of it. As a nation, we are no longer capable of seeing past
the SEC 10-Q's to make generational based decisions which provide long term
advantages to our country, communities, and shareholders. The Chinese have
no such difficulty.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 10:40 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

>
> https://www.vox.com/2020/4/22/21228469/marc-andreessen-build-government-coronavirus
>
>
>
> If you consider Ezra Klein biased or too political, you can go directly to
> Marc Andreessen’s essay.  But I read the Klein article and it didn’t seem
> biased, in the sense that it pretty much blames everybody equally.  Where
> is the problem?  We are the problem.  We are all the problem.
>
>
>
> https://a16z.com/2020/04/18/its-time-to-build/
>
>
>
> I guess it resonates with me, because I do find myself asking why can’t we
> do big things anymore?  Or solve big problems?  Where is our Panama Canal,
> or Hoover Dam, or eliminating polio?  Is Fortnite or Tik-Tok the best we
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Re: [AFMUG] FCC approves Ligado's use of L-band for IoT, 5G - RCR Wireless News

Yeah, I saw that.  I’m sure it was covered before, like over on the WISPA list, 
but does this mean we need to keep watch over all our GPS synced devices to see 
if they get messed up by interference from this new service?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 10:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC approves Ligado's use of L-band for IoT, 5G - RCR Wireless 
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https://www.rcrwireless.com/20200421/spectrum/fcc-approves-ligados-use-of-l-band-for-iot-5g

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[AFMUG] OT - why America can't build

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/22/21228469/marc-andreessen-build-government-coro
navirus

 

If you consider Ezra Klein biased or too political, you can go directly to
Marc Andreessen's essay.  But I read the Klein article and it didn't seem
biased, in the sense that it pretty much blames everybody equally.  Where is
the problem?  We are the problem.  We are all the problem.

 

https://a16z.com/2020/04/18/its-time-to-build/

 

I guess it resonates with me, because I do find myself asking why can't we
do big things anymore?  Or solve big problems?  Where is our Panama Canal,
or Hoover Dam, or eliminating polio?  Is Fortnite or Tik-Tok the best we dan
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Re: [AFMUG] FCC approves Ligado's use of L-band for IoT, 5G - RCR Wireless News

Someone got this approval once before.  I don’t recall the outcome.  I am 
pretty sure they are not still around.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] FCC approves Ligado's use of L-band for IoT, 5G - RCR Wireless 
News

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20200421/spectrum/fcc-approves-ligados-use-of-l-band-for-iot-5g
 



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[AFMUG] FCC approves Ligado's use of L-band for IoT, 5G - RCR Wireless News

2020-04-22 Thread Jaime Solorza

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20200421/spectrum/fcc-approves-ligados-use-of-l-band-for-iot-5g
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Chicken Thighs and Bacon

2020-04-22 Thread John Osmon

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 06:45:20PM -0600, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> Lol ..I am a wimp on super hot Chile compared to wife...told you guys how
> years ago I had to rush her to hospital due her hands burning in pain from
> some super hot Chile from Hatch...it caused all of us to cough as well.

Hatch.  Used to run a dial-up POP there...

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Re: [AFMUG] Need AirFiber5x

2020-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman

Picture is AF5

Subject is AF5x

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:24 AM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> If I remember correctly, latency is a bit lower on the 5X (although that
> may have changed with newer firmware... I haven't checked it recently), and
> it's always seemed to me that the 5x handles interference a bit better than
> the 5xHD, but I could be wrong about that, since I've never actually done a
> direct comparison. the HD also tends to try to run at higher modulation
> than it should in some cases, and has to be manually limited to lower
> modulation to work properly... I'd say the 5x just seems a bit more
> consistent overall.
>
> But yeah, the ability to run wider channels, higher modulation at lower
> signal levels, lower power consumption, ethernet ports that work properly,
> etc. makes the HD a much better radio overall.
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:04 PM Kurt Fankhauser 
> wrote:
>
>> Mr Hoppes, I know the XD is more spectruly efficient, power efficient,
>> etc. But Mr Howard said the the older 5X was better in some ways the the XD
>> and I am curious as to what aspects he is talking about.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 10:13 PM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> HD is more spectrally efficient.
>>>
>>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> How is a AF5X better than the AF5XHD? I'm curious as to what ways you
>>> mention. So far the only way i have found is the SNMP OID's are totally
>>> screwed up and not functioning in the HD version.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 7:34 PM Mathew Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ehh... the AirFiber 5x is a good radio. If it's a new link, or
 replacing both ends, then the Airfiber 5xHD is generally a pretty good
 replacement. The HD is better than the old 5x in some ways, and a bit worse
 in other ways, but they're both good radios.

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:32 PM Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I told guy who needs them to get some Cambium higher end radios...
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 4:07 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquiti really needs to realize they screwed the pooch by stopping
>> production on that product.
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> Here’s what we’ve got.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:59 PM Jaime Solorza <
>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok.  Thanks
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 2:35 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Jamie,

 I think we have a decommissioned pair in our storage.  I’ll go look
 later today.

 -Sean


 On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:31 PM Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We need an older model AirFiber5x...
> Any one know where we can get one? Thanks, El Dude
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Chicken Thighs and Bacon