Re: [AFMUG] OT I was blind but now I see

[Eric Kuhnke]

Have used several, have to disagree. I still wish monitors were 16:10
aspect ratio, not 16:9. I use my 43" for some 3840x2160 video editing so
anything that doesn't have 2160 pixels vertical resolution is not usable.

Definitely something to look at for a dedicated purpose gaming system. Also
would take a single wide screen over two 1920x1200 side by side.



On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:29 AM Daniel White  wrote:

> Once you invest in a curved widescreen monitor, you will never go back.
> Much better than Dual-Screen, and arguably better for most applications for
> computer use:
>
> https://www.viewsonic.com/library/photography/ultrawide-vs-dual-monitors
> https://www.viewsonic.com/library/entertainment/monitor-curvature-explained
>
> [image: photograph]
> Daniel White
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> Bill Prince wrote on 11/26/19 10:09:
>
> I was part of a group developing programming tools for Tandem Computers
> back in the early 90s. Besides the programming productivity tools, we also
> identified environmental changes that would improve programmer
> productivity. The very top thing we identified for improving programmer
> productivity was larger screens and/or more screens. The larger, the
> better. Highly productive programmers need to track multiple details, and
> getting immediate visibility into as many as possible was seen as a major
> win.
>
> The only problem was that big screens were really expensive back in those
> days.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 11/25/2019 4:41 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Got a 42” viewsonic 4K monitor.
>
> Not a TV but a monitor.  Oh man, what a difference.  I can look through
> the tops of my trifocals and have both email and web browser up on the same
> monitor.
>
> I have Netflix running the background and it is so good that I can see
> compression artifacts now.
>
> I love this monitor.  Required zero zero zero config.
>
> Mini display port on my Microsoft Surface Pro docking adapter  now doing
> double duty as my desk top since going to Europe.
>
> Things just keep getting better.
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT I was blind but now I see

[Eric Kuhnke]

Same for video editors. If really accurate color rendition is needed, for
use with a USB based color calibration device, there's definitely a whole
other class of monitors people will be looking at. Quite a bit more
expensive for the same amount of screen area than "regular" office
grade/consumer grade monitors.

Something like my LG 43 inch is definitely in the latter category, it's
under 500 bucks for its size, vs probably $900+ for something of the same
size that can do precise color matching.



On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:08 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> The other thing that matters, at least to graphic artists, is accurate
> color rendition.  Last time I shopped for large monitors, Dell had some
> good ones, but also at that time large meant 30 inch, so it was probably
> awhile ago.  The thing with Dell was to get the right model,  they have
> good and not so good, and then to wait for them to go on sale.
>
>
>
> Tough this time of year, you have the Black Friday / Cyber Monday sales
> (which may or may not be good deals), and then empty shelves until February.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2019 11:56 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT I was blind but now I see
>
>
>
> I am using a LG 43UD79, 43 inch monitor (not TV) with displayport input
> these days. Great screen.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1325220-REG/lg_43ud79_b_uhd_monitor_43_4k.html
>
>
>
> One of the interesting things about high DPI scaling operating system
> issues, is that if your vision is reasonably good, you don't need to do
> anything weird in Windows, MacOS or Linux to scale a display. Unlike having
> something like a 24 to 28 inch 4k display where you need to adjust font
> scaling, or else everything is incredibly tiny.
>
>
>
> The dpi scaling at normal 1:1 ratio is about the same as a 24 inch
> 1920x1200 monitor from ten years ago.
>
>
>
> The size of usable area is almost exactly the same as four 23.5" 1920x1080
> displays tiled together.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 4:42 PM  wrote:
>
> Got a 42” viewsonic 4K monitor.
>
>
>
> Not a TV but a monitor.  Oh man, what a difference.  I can look through
> the tops of my trifocals and have both email and web browser up on the same
> monitor.
>
>
>
> I have Netflix running the background and it is so good that I can see
> compression artifacts now.
>
>
>
> I love this monitor.  Required zero zero zero config.
>
>
>
> Mini display port on my Microsoft Surface Pro docking adapter  now doing
> double duty as my desk top since going to Europe.
>
>
>
> Things just keep getting better.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT I was blind but now I see

[Eric Kuhnke]

I am using a LG 43UD79, 43 inch monitor (not TV) with displayport input
these days. Great screen.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1325220-REG/lg_43ud79_b_uhd_monitor_43_4k.html

One of the interesting things about high DPI scaling operating system
issues, is that if your vision is reasonably good, you don't need to do
anything weird in Windows, MacOS or Linux to scale a display. Unlike having
something like a 24 to 28 inch 4k display where you need to adjust font
scaling, or else everything is incredibly tiny.

The dpi scaling at normal 1:1 ratio is about the same as a 24 inch
1920x1200 monitor from ten years ago.

The size of usable area is almost exactly the same as four 23.5" 1920x1080
displays tiled together.





On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 4:42 PM  wrote:

> Got a 42” viewsonic 4K monitor.
>
> Not a TV but a monitor.  Oh man, what a difference.  I can look through
> the tops of my trifocals and have both email and web browser up on the same
> monitor.
>
> I have Netflix running the background and it is so good that I can see
> compression artifacts now.
>
> I love this monitor.  Required zero zero zero config.
>
> Mini display port on my Microsoft Surface Pro docking adapter  now doing
> double duty as my desk top since going to Europe.
>
> Things just keep getting better.
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Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

[Eric Kuhnke]

I have a 42RU size Harris/Stratex 11 GHz PTP radio that consumes 900W of
power if anyone wants it.

:-)


On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 8:51 PM Daniel White  wrote:

> I love SAF and probably always will.  Lots of great memories working
> there.  Steve I think I was even part of helping convince you on that first
> SAF link ;-)
>
> With that said, Ken is the real deal and Aviat has really come out
> swinging.  This is the old Harris-Stratex for those that deployed that gear
> - very solid equipment just never interested in the WISP market until
> recently.  The radios are very, very sexy... and with the people that have
> gone to work for them over the last 24 months plus the legacy of the
> brand... I wouldn't have qualms about choosing Aviat.
>
> My only knock against them is selling direct vs. channel... I believe in
> the value of a great channel but it looks like Aviat is making the right
> moves where the direct model usually falls apart.
>
> On the trial license... I'd forget about it.  Won't be any cheaper (a
> trial license that is)... and I doubt your going to get any manufacturers
> to play ball on a bakeoff type thing anyways where you could return the
> gear and keep your favorite.
>
> [image: photograph]
> Daniel White
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> Steve Jones wrote on 11/19/19 21:19:
>
> Thats the motherfucker, kens his name. Its funny you guys mention the GUI,
> thats about the only thing Im questioning on the gear right now. usually my
> sales communications is a whole bunch of back and forth digging into what
> the gear actually does, a couple emails in and im basically asking him,
> "whats the GUI look like" and "why am I not hanging this shit in the air
> today?" I really like this guys no nonsense sales approach, he touched me
> off a facebook post, so immediately I was like "This guy" and now hes like
> the boss skag dealer with the 99% pure telling me "buy it or dont, I got
> the good shit"
> Its 2/3 the price of SAF, some serious mbps more in bits/hz. we already
> went the regrettable route of Mimosa and came crawling back to SAF, as if
> we hadnt learned we put our ring in the dresser and went out to meet
> Cambium at the bar, but there was Aviat, at the hot dog cart, hair flowing
> in the breeze, with their doe eyes... tsk tsk
>
> Adair, how do their rf profiles compare to their real world performance?.
> Ive always appreciated SAF, They way understate their numbers and the
> radios way overperform my expectations.
>
> My only real complain with the SAF Integra we run is the need for external
> LAG since its 2+0, but the new Integra -X is XPIC  with layer 1 aggregation
>
> Our Lumina Links have some ethernet issues, but we got the fiber kits if
> we ever turn it up.
>
> Outstanding on the Aviat quote is the fiber, nobody puts that on the quote
> default
>
> anybody know if commsearch can get you a cheap 11ghz trial license to
> compare a couple vendors gear?
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 9:53 PM Darin Steffl 
> wrote:
>
>> I just did a demo today with Ken of their radio GUI, link design tool,
>> and pricing on their site.
>>
>> The wtm4000 series looks pretty slick and pricing is affordable for
>> carrier grade stuff. He said they're all made in America and tech support
>> is here too. They're the #1 in volume of coordinated links in the US over
>> the last few years also, just beating Nokia.
>>
>> I know a few wisp's who have deployed and really like the gear. I think
>> we'll be doing 3 links this spring to upgrade our AF11FX links that are
>> just starting to fill up.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 9:48 PM Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What do you old hippie degenerates know about these folks? I did a dot I
>>> cross T on SAF vs Cambium gear post so I could keep getting my SAF gear and
>>> this Aviat fella pissed on my parade. This is an old reliable company,
>>> normally outside WISPs grasps offering some hella competitive pricing. I
>>> dont consider UBNT or Mimosa worth looking at anymore, mainly because
>>> theyre garbage. SAF has tickled my fancy and the boss keeps dropping coin
>>> at them. this sales prick however is really scratching my itch (and Ive
>>> been around the block).
>>>
>>> I really cant find a reason at this point to not buy a link and see how
>>> it does. we arent talking nickels here, the price he offered I feel like a
>>> dirty grampa asking for the few percent off I always ask.
>>>
>>> Somebody here has to have had a bad date with these guys
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Re: [AFMUG] callsigns for each licensed PTP link

[Eric Kuhnke]

yes, but it's unnecessarily wasteful and more paperwork to have more than
one callsign for the same latitude/longitude tower or rooftop site
coordinates.



On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:37 AM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 10/29/19 1:21 PM, Daniel White wrote:
> > I've never seen a coordinator offer a discount for a number of licenses
> > in bulk at once.  If you were constantly doing a lot of links though I'm
> > sure they would sharpen the pencil so to speak.
>
>
> I dunno why anyone would complain about costs to license in the US. Look
> up Canada's costs to do the same thing.
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Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites Are All Phoning Home (and Fading Out) | Space

[Eric Kuhnke]

Most serious HFT moved to shortwave type links a while back, the microwave
path between the CME and New Jersey is obsolete...  Think big ass yagi-uda
antennas, dipoles, much lower frequencies, very low data rates.



On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 4:02 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> This is the best explanation I've seen (so far) of how the system is
> expected to work. One thing I didn't think about was the low latency. This
> video speculates that it will have lower latency than trans-Atlantic fiber.
> Ergo, this may become the new darling of flash traders.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giQ8xEWjnBs
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/3/2019 11:19 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I wonder how snow on the cpe antenna will affect things.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2019 12:16 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites Are All
> Phoning Home (and Fading Out) | Space
>
>
> That would be per satellite. So it doesn't really tell us what the system
> capacity is. Don't forget there will be ~ 600 satellites per ring, and (I
> think) 24 rings.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/3/2019 10:18 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> People always ask about system capacity, but it's simpler than that.
> Their FCC filings show 2ghz of spectrum for the downlink from satellite to
> user terminal.  They have two polarities, not unlike us.  We could
> generously assume they'll get 10 bits/hz.  That's 20gbps in a given
> geographic area.  It doesn't matter how many satellites there are, or what
> the capacity of a given satellite is.  I don't know how big that geographic
> area will be exactly.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On 6/2/2019 6:15 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> There are whole bunches of risk factors.
>
> Assuming the satellite-mesh system works (and that is still an if; note
> that this first batch does not include the sat-sat laser link capability),
> I have not seen a real estimate of the system capacity. I would presume
> there would be separate earth stations for each orbital plane. There could
> even conceivably be multiple earth stations for each orbital plane, which
> would make the system capacity flexible.
>
> IDK if they're making money or not, but they are serving body blows to the
> competition.
>
> There was open speculation that the Falcon heavy was going into a limited
> demand situation, but now that it seems to be working (so far), that market
> opportunity may be shifting as well.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 6/2/2019 12:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> You’d think that SpaceX is highly profitable and is using those profits to
> expand into the satellite Internet business.  But actually there is debate
> whether SpaceX is profitable without accounting tricks, and even if it is
> profitable, the margins are very thin.  Reportedly the geostationary launch
> business is softening, and SpaceX is actually looking to Starlink for
> profits.  No doubt it helps if you can launch your own satellites, maybe
> even having them ride along while you get paid to launch stuff for paying
> customers.  But this sounds like a pretty risky venture, paid for with
> borrowed money.  If it wasn’t risky, it wouldn’t be Elon, right?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 2, 2019 12:04 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites Are All
> Phoning Home (and Fading Out) | Space
>
>
>
> I would suspect they are going to have hundreds of earth stations as
> opposed to one or two earth stations that legacy platforms have. Up to the
> bird, maybe across one or two birds, and back down to the fiber-fed earth
> stations. I've seen the numbers, but I forgot the numbers. It's real
> bandwidth at each one.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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>
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> *From: *"Tim Withrow via AF" 
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc: *"Tim Withrow" 
> *Sent: *Saturday, June 1, 2019 4:43:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX Says Its 60 Starlink Satellites Are All
> Phoning Home (and Fading Out) | Space
>
> What kind of bandwidth  capacity could each satellite have  at any given
> point?
> What is the usable bandwidth of their system?  Who makes a radio that big
> to carry/transmit such  capacity or is it an
> aggregate of small radio's?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-60GL Application Processed : Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New Equipment

[Eric Kuhnke]

The gigabeam name is rather funny for anyone that saw a first-generation
71-86GHz gigabeam product. It was the original competitor of the Bridgewave
GE80 but didn't do so well in the market, due to being more difficult to
install and with a weird user interface for configuration.

The original gigabeam went bankrupt quite some time ago...



On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:56 AM Dan Spitler  wrote:

> They accidentally leaked it to the beta store early and has been "coming
> soon" for a while now:
> https://store.ui.com/collections/early-access/products/gbe-us-beta
> Since it was approved, I'm hoping to snag a pair once they're available,
> though I think the Mikrotik kit is a better deal: Cheaper, simpler
> form-factor, beamforming (doesn't appear the Ubnt has it based on the FCC
> docs), and multipoint support (just guessing the Ubnt is point-to-point
> only for now).
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:05 AM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquiti outdoor 60Ghz
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: FCC ID Alert 
>> Date: Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:57 PM
>> Subject: FCC ID SWX-60GL Application Processed : Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.
>> for New Equipment
>> To: 
>>
>>
>> FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New
>> Equipment.
>> FCC ID SWX-60GL
>> 
>> Equipment: 60G Link
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Re: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios..

[Eric Kuhnke]

You'd have to be nuts to buy Dragonwave now. They went through like a... 9
month period of shipping nothing? With no spares support for most of their
customers, no repair services, basically shut down dead. And now they have
new financial backing and are like "new phone, who dis?".

As a person that watches bankruptcies and failures in the Canadian tech
industry - Dragonwave is dead to me. They're dead as Exalt or Trango.



On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 9:20 AM Peter Kranz  wrote:

> +31 is the advertised 2048QAM output on the HP variant. Dragonwave
> contacted me offline and is indicating a March availability. Here is the
> table of power output levels for that radio. It should also support
> 4096QAM, but I’m not sure if that’s available in the software yet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2019 8:27 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios..
>
>
>
> Looks like PTP820c is only +16.
>
>
>
> You’re talking about xmt power actually at 2048QAM modulation, right?  +31
> is hard to believe.
>
>
>
> I remember hearing that Broadcom was supposed to have a chip with adaptive
> digital predistortion for high xmt power also 4096QAM not sure if that
> became real.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz
> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2019 6:51 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios..
>
>
>
> Dragonwave announced over a year ago the Harmony Enhanced 18HP, with +31
> TX power at 2048 QAM, but have never made it to production as far as I
> know. From the top of my head, here are some of the major radios TX power
> in 18 Ghz band:
>
>
>
> Dragonwave Harmony Enahcend HP – 31 
>
> Dragonwave Harmony Enhanced SP – 22
>
> Bridgewave Navigator – 19
>
> Aviat WTM 4200 – 17.5
>
> SIAE AlfoPlus2 – 17
>
>
>
> Curious if anyone is aware of an 18Ghz dual core radio capable of higher
> TX power at 2048QAM? It’s quite difficult to license 6Ghz or 11Ghz paths in
> my market.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?

[Eric Kuhnke]

Worth noting that to the best of my knowledge, Elva-1 is the only one
selling a 90cm 71-86 GHz band dish.

For two reasons. Incredibly hard to aim, and the narrow beam width can
actually be a bad thing compared to 60cm. With a 90cm dish on a tall steel
tower in direct sunlight (steel expansion/contraction on a hollow monopole
in 42C weather, for instance), or on top of a very tall (800'+) office
building that sways slightly, the beam width is so narrow that it will come
off alignment and vary in RSL during the day.

MTI and Radiowaves prototyped 90cm e-band dishes 5+ years ago and decided
not to make or sell them.



On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:29 AM Stephen Patrick <
stephen.patr...@cablefree.co.uk> wrote:

> No commercial FSO exists at 5 miles (8km) -
> Generally, atmospherics mean long range FSO has lower availability than
> most users will tolerate, so the technology is best for short range links.
>
> 10Gbps MMW at 8km is certainly possible in some regions:
> We have already done this for some customers in Middle East (low rainfall
> zone)
> 5 miles with 90cm (3ft) antennas.  Works great.
>
> Best regards
> Stephen
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 23:18, Daniel White  wrote:
>
>> Not that I am aware of
>>
>>  
>> Daniel White
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>>
>> Adam Moffett wrote on 2/19/19 15:29:
>>
>> I thought he might mean fiber.  Is there an FSO product that'll work at 5
>> miles?
>>
>>
>> On 2/19/2019 5:26 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Arrgh, flashback, bad ptsd from 1990  in Mexico City.  Lasers from high
>> rise banking buildings to other high rise banking buildings.  Building
>> move.
>>
>> *From:* dave
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:16 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig at 5.25 miles?
>>
>>
>> Do Light optics
>>
>>
>> On 2/19/19 11:35 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>
>> Assuming this just ins't possible in the real world but I thought I'd
>> throw it at the list and see if anyone knew of anything even if it cost an
>> arm an and a leg.  Obviously wireless, fiber would be too easy.
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Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying

[Eric Kuhnke]

Dragonwave spent a lot of money developing new products, and on marketing,
expecting that they would get a major win with one of the big 4 american
cellular carriers. Apparently that customer went elsewhere and bought a
huge amount of competitors' carrier class radios instead (NEC, Ericsson,
Nokia).

On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 8:22 AM  wrote:

> Dragonwave kinda killed itself with a massive expansion based on the
> expectation of the boom continuing.  They should have just banked the
> cash.
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Friday, February 8, 2019 9:18 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying
>
> Did Clearwire do all the damage to those companies through the massive
> ramp-up of orders and then abruptly stopping the purchasing, or is there
> something else that I'm missing?
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 10:15 AM Daniel White  wrote:
>
>> That was a very different BridgeWave though.  Pre-Siklu having 80GHz
>> products.
>>
>> They were sold to REMEC which was then sold to Moseley.  There is only
>> one person left there that I worked with, who is a sales guy on the East
>> Coast (Jim Norton).
>>
>> Sprint/Clearwire did a lot of damage to Bridgewave, just as they did to
>> Dragonwave.
>>
>> I don't have any opinion of them now.
>>
>> [image: Logo] 
>> Daniel White
>> Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
>> phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
>> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
>>
>> ch...@wbmfg.com wrote on 2/8/19 08:32:
>>
>> I really don't know anyone that I can recall singing the praises of
>> Bridgewave except for Daniel - while he worked for them.  I have had bad
>> experiences myself and I know a handful of others in a similar boat.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen
>> Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 8:05 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave is being annoying
>>
>> On 2/8/19 12:51 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>
>> This is a bit unsettling. I'm looking some Navigator links. The
>> price/performance seems pretty good IMO, and the single radio sparing is a
>> big plus. I remember Nathan from Wisper swearing off Bridgewave because of
>> some random issues with links as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah I really don't know what to think. I have microwave gear from SAF,
>> Exalt, and Cambium/Ceragon and those have all been rock solid in all
>> kinds of places. I thought these would be in the same category but it's
>> been nothing but problems. The 10+ minute reboot times are beyond
>> frustrating too.
>>
>> One thing that struck me as odd was that when I did back to back testing
>> on the bench with waveguide that even in what I felt should be perfect
>> RF conditions they wouldn't reach full modulation. Support said that was
>> to be expected because of the attenuators being used and since these
>> were new and I was new to Bridgewave I went ahead and deployed them.
>>
>> Down for 2 hours, so many reboots later, and it finally came up again.
>> Why? Nobody knows. But now it won't modulate above QAM on one side.
>> These Bridgewaves weren't cheap and even if I'm able to get to the
>> bottom of why they are being crap I don't think I'll ever be able to
>> trust them without a parallel link from another vendor.
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 5XHD Cacti Templates

[Eric Kuhnke]

Did ubnt publish a new MIB for the af5xhd? As far as I know there is still
only one "AF" mib. For instance the specific OIDs for crucial rf data on an
af11fx are the same as on an af24.

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 8:01 AM Josh Luthman  Eric that looks all af5x.  Not af5xHD.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:03 AM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>
>> From my AF5 and AF5/AF5HD snmpwalk notes.
>>
>> You should be able to build a cacti data acquisition and chart template
>> from this.
>>
>> ubnt af5 snmp mib notes, the most important items to poll
>>
>> based on snmpwalk of firmware v3.2.3 radio
>>
>>
>> radio board uptime in seconds
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.38.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.38.1 = INTEGER: 4951
>>
>>
>> radio is enabled yes or no, 1=enabled, 2=disabled
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.2.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.2.1 = INTEGER: 1
>>
>>
>> radio link state, 0=down, 1=up
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.26.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.26.1 = INTEGER: 1
>>
>>
>> radio link uptime in seconds
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.44.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.44.1 = INTEGER: 2537
>>
>>
>> radio mode master or slave, 1=master, 2=slave, 3=spectrum analysis
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.3.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.3.1 = INTEGER: 1
>>
>>
>> gps satellites visible
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.34.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.34.1 = INTEGER: 6
>>
>>
>> gps satellites being tracked
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.35.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.35.1 = INTEGER: 8
>>
>>
>> gps sync status, 1=off, 2=yes
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.8.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.8.1 = INTEGER: 2
>>
>>
>>
>> radio link distance in meters
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.4.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.4.1 = INTEGER: 8159
>>
>>
>> radio0 temperature in c
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.8.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.8.1 = INTEGER: 32
>>
>>
>> radio1 temperature in c
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.10.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.10.1 = INTEGER: 46
>>
>>
>>
>> radio duplex mode, 1=halfduplex, 2=fullduplex
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.4.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.4.1 = INTEGER: 2
>>
>>
>> radio tx frequency in MHz
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.5.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.5.1 = INTEGER: 5666
>>
>>
>> radio rx frequency in MHz
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.6.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.6.1 = INTEGER: 5709
>>
>>
>> radio tx power
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.9.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.9.1 = INTEGER: 30
>>
>>
>>
>> radio rx gain setting, 1=low, 2=high
>> myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
>> mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.10.1
>> .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.10.1 = INTEGER: 2
>>

Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 5XHD Cacti Templates

[Eric Kuhnke]

>From my AF5 and AF5/AF5HD snmpwalk notes.

You should be able to build a cacti data acquisition and chart template
from this.

ubnt af5 snmp mib notes, the most important items to poll

based on snmpwalk of firmware v3.2.3 radio


radio board uptime in seconds
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.38.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.38.1 = INTEGER: 4951


radio is enabled yes or no, 1=enabled, 2=disabled
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.2.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.2.1 = INTEGER: 1


radio link state, 0=down, 1=up
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.26.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.26.1 = INTEGER: 1


radio link uptime in seconds
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.44.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.44.1 = INTEGER: 2537


radio mode master or slave, 1=master, 2=slave, 3=spectrum analysis
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.3.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.3.1 = INTEGER: 1


gps satellites visible
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.34.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.34.1 = INTEGER: 6


gps satellites being tracked
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.35.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.35.1 = INTEGER: 8


gps sync status, 1=off, 2=yes
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.8.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.8.1 = INTEGER: 2



radio link distance in meters
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.4.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.4.1 = INTEGER: 8159


radio0 temperature in c
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.8.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.8.1 = INTEGER: 32


radio1 temperature in c
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.10.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.10.1 = INTEGER: 46



radio duplex mode, 1=halfduplex, 2=fullduplex
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.4.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.4.1 = INTEGER: 2


radio tx frequency in MHz
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.5.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.5.1 = INTEGER: 5666


radio rx frequency in MHz
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.6.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.6.1 = INTEGER: 5709


radio tx power
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.9.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.9.1 = INTEGER: 30



radio rx gain setting, 1=low, 2=high
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.10.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.10.1 = INTEGER: 2



radio max modulation setting, 0=qpsk, 8=256qam
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.11.1.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.1.1.11.1 = INTEGER: 8



radio current tx modulation rate
0=qpsk siso
2=qpsk mimo
4=16qam mimo
6=64qam mimo
8=256qam mimo
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.2.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.2.1 = INTEGER: 6


radio current rx capacity in bits per second (divide by 100 to get Mbps)
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.5.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.5.1 = INTEGER: 148446720


radio current tx capacity in bits per second (divide by 100 to get Mbps)
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.6.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.6.1 = INTEGER: 214749440


radio rx power rsl chain 0
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.11.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.11.1 = INTEGER: -74


radio rx power rsl chain 1
myworkstationhostname:~ erickuhnke$ snmpwalk -v1 -O n -c
mysnmpcommunitystring ip.of.my.af5.radio .1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.14.1
.1.3.6.1.4.1.41112.1.3.2.1.14.1 

Re: [AFMUG] Virtual fiber

[Eric Kuhnke]

Telus has been calling its VDSL2 based last mile service, from curb boxes
with small Huawei DSLAMs, and in the basements of MDUs, "*Optik*" for a
long time. With marketing bullshit materials that have billboards, bus stop
ads, ads on buses and such showing fiber optic cables.

And that's a huge ILEC.

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:40 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Reminds me of a Century Link ad campaign for DSL.  They called it fiber
> service, the fiber delivered high speed to a point right outside your home
> or business (as long as right out side was within 10,000 feet)
>
> *From:* Tim Withrow via AF
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 01, 2019 12:07 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* Tim Withrow
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Virtual fiber
>
>
> "virtual fiber works by using wireless signals to connect customers to the
> internet."
>
> "Though the technology FiberXstream uses is available to the mass market"
>
> Sounds like someone has great ambitions and has got overzealous with
> marketing rhetoric for a wireless network.
>
>
> --
> On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 TJ Trout  wrote:
>
> Anyone know what virtual fiber is and why it's harder to deploy than
> traditional fiber?? 藍藍
>
>
> https://tdn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/tdn.com/news/local/homegrown-internet-provider-brings-castle-rock-area-out-of-dark/article_d3d8dc39-f1e8-5b19-8735-efd262fcdc2d.amp.html?amp_js_v=a2_gsa=1=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com_tf=From%20%251%24s=https%3A%2F%2Ftdn.com%2Fnews%2Flocal%2Fhomegrown-internet-provider-brings-castle-rock-area-out-of-dark%2Farticle_d3d8dc39-f1e8-5b19-8735-efd262fcdc2d.html
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Re: [AFMUG] Can Anyone service this address?

[Eric Kuhnke]

If money is not a problem I can get you 300 Mbps over two way satellite to
pretty much any location on the planet which is not above 80 degrees north
or south latitude.


On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 12:15 PM  wrote:

> A microsoft exec had a vacation home in the middle of Capitol Reef
> National Monument here in Utah.  Wanted broadband, money not a problem.  He
> got broadband.
>
> *From:* Dave
> *Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2018 11:12 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Can Anyone service this address?
>
> We have the same desperation around these parts for sure.. Its usually one
> guy in the middle of mountain side somewhere only bear can get to :)
>
>
> On 12/13/18 12:35 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
> 
>
> man that looks in the middle of no where treeville.
>
> i didn't even see a road called that - but apparently google maps did
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Timothy Steele
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:05 AM
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Can Anyone service this address?
>
> Can anyone get internet service to this Guy?
>
>
> 7849 Barnhill Rd, Primm Springs TN 38476
>
>
> direct email me for details if you can
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Re: [AFMUG] Can Anyone service this address?

[Eric Kuhnke]

My usual answer to that is, "sure, for $985,000".

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 9:25 AM Timothy Steele 
wrote:

> yes he is so desperate for service he is looking to hire someone to build
> a WISP for him just so he can get internet
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:48 AM Zach Underwood 
> wrote:
>
>> This looks like the same guy
>>
>> https://community.ubnt.com/t5/Business-Talk/Rural-Broadband-Internet-Solution-40-Mins-From-Nashville/m-p/2595783#M55700
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:07 AM Timothy Steele 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone get internet service to this Guy?
>>>
>>>
>>> 7849 Barnhill Rd, Primm Springs TN 38476
>>>
>>>
>>> direct email me for details if you can
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[AFMUG] Spot the AF24

[Eric Kuhnke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHCmzvzCmhI=youtu.be
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - HAARP

[Eric Kuhnke]

Anyone who listened to the Art Bell show in the late 1990s knows way too
much about this, whether they want to or not.

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 10:59 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Did not know about this.  Quite a phased antenna array.  Unfortunate their
> FAQ has to answer questions like can HAARP control the weather, exert mind
> control over people, or create chemtrails.
>
>
>
> https://www.gi.alaska.edu/haarp/frequently-asked-questions-faq
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Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

[Eric Kuhnke]

They're a special series of N connectors rated for up to 13 GHz. Could
probably buy new prefab cables from Pasternack.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I think I remember when the Airfibers first came out, there was some
> discussion over the use of N Connectors for 11ghz.  We've been using the
> 11ghz AF dish with the provided coax cables and they have been fine.  I
> have a situation where I need to mount 2 physical AF Radios to the same
> dish (2 SISO Channels licensed), so I'll need a longer coax for one
> radio.  Has anyone made custom length Coax cables for 11ghz radios?
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Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber 5U Conducted TX power.

[Eric Kuhnke]

There are legitimate uses for thinking outside the box. I've configured
ubnt radios that are running PTP links in Afghanistan...  Which I assure
you is not accurately represented in the ubnt firmware.



On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:02 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I kinda doubt that's international waters.  His statement still holds
> true, use the country you're in.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:41 PM, David Thake 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ryan,
>>
>> Thank you for your lesson.
>>
>> I doubt the tests we want to conduct in the middle of the Med would
>> affect you in the US but in these days were a few hundred women and
>> children in a caravan can mobilise the US Army, I guess you can’t be too
>> careful.
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Nov 5, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Ryan  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey David,
>> >
>> > You should be selecting the country that you are operating in, and not
>> the
>> > one that gives the highest amount of conducted power. Practices like
>> that
>> > make the spectrum very polluted for the rest of us.
>> >
>> > Please just put in the country that you are operating out of, and work
>> with
>> > that.
>> >
>> > Ryan
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Thake
>> > Sent: Monday, November 5, 2018 6:48 AM
>> > To: af@af.afmug.com
>> > Subject: [AFMUG] AirFiber 5U Conducted TX power.
>> >
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know which country selection will allow the highest
>> conducted TX
>> > power?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > David
>> >
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[AFMUG] Lazy research: Who owns REMEC/Mosely?

[Eric Kuhnke]

If I'm too lazy, and not sufficiently motivated to go pull California
corporate registration records... What does the ownership structure of
REMEC/Mosely/Bridgewave look like?

For other people who might be purchasing Bridgewave Navigator in the
future, they might be curious, to avoid a situation like what has happened
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Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator

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I would be very surprised if a $4k price included antennas, unless it's a
price with really cheap 23 GHz, 1' dish size antennas for a super short
distance 23 GHz, 80 MHz channel, single polarity licensed link.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:44 PM Robert  wrote:

> And is that plus antennas for the ST model?
>
> On 10/9/18 4:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> > Photos?
> > *From:* Jason McKemie
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 09, 2018 3:26 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator
> > I just got a quote yesterday, the ST model was around d $4k a link with
> > full licenses. The DT model was about twice that.
> >
> > On Tuesday, October 9, 2018, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yea, no.   I’m not sure if I can release pricing but figure
> > somewhere around $10-$12k with antennas depending on options.  If
> > you double up the radios, even more.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > 
> >
> > *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 9, 2018 1:54 PM
> > *To:* AFMUG
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator
> >
> > 
> >
> > ~$4k was the price that I heard originally.
> >
> > 
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:28 PM Rory Conaway 
> > wrote:
> >
> > I have 2 of the units.  They second antenna showed up today so
> > they are going up on Monday.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Depends on what you think the price is.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > 
> >
> > *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Baird
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 9, 2018 1:17 PM
> > *To:* AFMUG
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator
> >
> > 
> >
> > I heard that some people have beta units.. I have also heard the
> > price is NOT what everyone thought it would be.
> >
> > 
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 3:32 PM Joe Novak 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Everyone was talking about it at the Spring show. 
> >
> > 
> >
> > If it's not actually in the wild yet I start to question
> > it's existence. 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > 
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 2:23 PM Jason McKemie
> >  wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure if there are any out in the wild as of yet.
> > 
> >
> > If so, is anyone using these? Thoughts?
> >
> > 
> >
> > The features look good, and pricing is pretty
> > aggressive.
> >
> > 
> >
> > -Jason
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Re: [AFMUG] Parenting in the Digital world

[Eric Kuhnke]

IMHO it's not the place of an ISP to get into this *at all*. You're a
service provider. If they want to google "parent controls for internet" and
then buy some commercial DNS-filtering service, or Windows 10 app or
something, that's entirely between the customer and whatever third party
they get set up with.

It's good to let them know that you provide a full unfiltered Internet feed
and that it's their choice what they want to do with it, if they break
something and require technical support, they need to go to their filtering
vendor.



On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 7:08 AM afmug.lists.fo...@enc-tech.com <
lhan...@enc-tech.com> wrote:

> Hi;
>
> What are some of the tools or resources either as a WISP or parent does
> one use to control / monitor children's access to content or devices?
>
> Do you find a request from parents on whether you have a service to do
> content filtering?  If so, what do you tend to do?   Or, do you just
> block certain websites and content by default from being accessed.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] water ballast

[Eric Kuhnke]

Probably end up with a sludge water full of algae and bacteria and dead
insects. I'd rather deal with 16" concrete blocks.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:43 PM Robert  wrote:

> & why they wouldn't have a way to replenish with rainwater?  Seems
> shaping the top with a funnel would be a natural...
>
> On 9/12/18 12:23 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> > Looking at this in more detail I'm really skeptical about how well the
> > bins are sealed, in a climate that could be anywhere from -12C to +42C,
> > all that water will evaporate out in a few years.
> >
> > Then random service calls from people whose mounts and CPE radio have
> > blown off a roof or slid 40 feet across a business/warehouse type roof.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 11:54 AM Steve Jones  > <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > 108 buck
> >
> https://www.perfect-10.tv/WebStore/ProductDetail.aspx?ID=12950=both
> > vs a payout on back injury from mopes who cant lug cinderblocks
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:23 PM Brian Sullivan
> > mailto:installe...@foxvalley.net>>
> wrote:
> >
> > The basic rectangle non-pen's are $20 + ~$8 in bricks.  How much
> > do these run from Perfect10.com?
> >
> > On 9/12/2018 12:44 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> > wrote:
> >> I would be more worried about the longevity of the plastic.
> >> If it is the right stuff and thick enough it will be OK.
> >> *From:* Steve Jones
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:40 AM
> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] water ballast
> >> http://www.hydro-mount.com/
> >> For residential/light commercial stuff, running a hose up is
> >> nicer than lugging up blocks
> >> Anybody ever try this outfit out? freezing and mosquito larva
> >> come to mind as an issue
> >>
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Re: [AFMUG] water ballast

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Looking at this in more detail I'm really skeptical about how well the bins
are sealed, in a climate that could be anywhere from -12C to +42C, all that
water will evaporate out in a few years.

Then random service calls from people whose mounts and CPE radio have blown
off a roof or slid 40 feet across a business/warehouse type roof.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 11:54 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> 108 buck
> https://www.perfect-10.tv/WebStore/ProductDetail.aspx?ID=12950=both
> vs a payout on back injury from mopes who cant lug cinderblocks
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:23 PM Brian Sullivan 
> wrote:
>
>> The basic rectangle non-pen's are $20 + ~$8 in bricks.  How much do these
>> run from Perfect10.com?
>>
>> On 9/12/2018 12:44 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> I would be more worried about the longevity of the plastic.
>> If it is the right stuff and thick enough it will be OK.
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:40 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] water ballast
>>
>> http://www.hydro-mount.com/
>>
>> For residential/light commercial stuff, running a hose up is nicer than
>> lugging up blocks
>>
>> Anybody ever try this outfit out? freezing and mosquito larva come to
>> mind as an issue
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Winter access vehicle

[Eric Kuhnke]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Green_Show


On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 6:48 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Hit those tower access roads in style this winter with your Cadillac
> limousine snowcat!
> Only $6,000 on Vancouver Craigslist.
>
>
> https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/nvn/snw/d/for-sale-snow-cat-limo/6690774296.html
>
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/a-canadian-turned-a-cadillac-brougham-limousine-into-a-snowmobile-and-its-glorious/ar-BBN9o8u?ocid=spartandhp#image=BBN9o8u_1|1
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Re: [AFMUG] water ballast

[Eric Kuhnke]

That is not totally nuts in pricing compared to the 36" x 36" footprint
Rohn and other mounts. Not as cheap as a light duty mount like you'd buy
for a residential flat roof, from 3starinc (in the $50 range?), but totally
comparable to other things that are 9 sq ft.



On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 11:54 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> 108 buck
> https://www.perfect-10.tv/WebStore/ProductDetail.aspx?ID=12950=both
> vs a payout on back injury from mopes who cant lug cinderblocks
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:23 PM Brian Sullivan 
> wrote:
>
>> The basic rectangle non-pen's are $20 + ~$8 in bricks.  How much do these
>> run from Perfect10.com?
>>
>> On 9/12/2018 12:44 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> I would be more worried about the longevity of the plastic.
>> If it is the right stuff and thick enough it will be OK.
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2018 10:40 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] water ballast
>>
>> http://www.hydro-mount.com/
>>
>> For residential/light commercial stuff, running a hose up is nicer than
>> lugging up blocks
>>
>> Anybody ever try this outfit out? freezing and mosquito larva come to
>> mind as an issue
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[AFMUG] Tinfoil hats part two

[Eric Kuhnke]

https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/10/bay-area-city-blocks-5g-deployments-over-cancer-concerns/
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Re: [AFMUG] DMARC

[Eric Kuhnke]

It's not hard to set up if you have a smtp daemon/MX that has a lot of good
reference material out there about it (postfix, qmail, sendmail, etc).

Be sure that all of your SPF and DKIM is set up perfectly and that you're
actually DKIM-signing your outgoing traffic first.

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:04 AM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Has this taken enough root that its worth implementing?
>
> We have another customer (their own domain) whose had their address book
> pilfered and spf soft fail isnt enough.
>
> What are the cons of implementing DMARC? I assume the notification box
> will fill up quickly.
> Is it adopted enough that its worth the effort?
> Any configuration gotchas?
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[AFMUG] Court of appeals: IP address is not enough to sue someone for copyright infringement

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https://www.techspot.com/news/76190-us-court-appeals-ip-address-isnt-enough-identify.html
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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

[Eric Kuhnke]

Not mentioned, but the other HUGE advantage of AE is that you're able to
use a huge variety of equipment. The amount of stuff out there that you can
do AE with vs GPON is like a 90:1 ratio. I have an AE setup using a
datacenter-grade Arista 7148 capable of 1/10GbE to the customer and it was
a very affordable switch to purchase.

You can use all sorts of ex-datacenter equipment and things that were
designed for corporate LAN aggregation and leaf/spline architecture,
repurposed for AE residential. With GPON you have maybe ten realistic
choices of equipment vendors.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:36 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> My 0.02
>
> First of all we would have to determine what type of AE we are talking
> about.  Are we talking a managed system like calix, zhone, etc with AE
> cards in them using their respective OLT's? Or, are we talking about the
> DIY stacking 48 port switches on top of each other and throwing some
> mikrotiks out there?
>
> Also, we need to talk about density?  How many customers are we talking?
> AE is fine for smaller build outs, but doesn't scale well.  The one big
> advantage of AE over GPON is distance.  You can economically run 4x as far
> on AE as GPON.  The best we can do on our GPON system is about 30km if we
> us a Class C+ laser.
>
> Using my test cage as an example.  This is a 4U cage with 7 slots.  If I
> use seven 8port cards, that gives me a maximum of 1792 customers in a 4U
> space. That is 1792 customers powered by one redundant power supply
> system.  Also, that is 56 fiber cables running from the cage to the patch
> panel.
>
> If I do AE on the 4U cage using 7 AE cards, I can get 140 customers in the
> same space.  About the same power requirements, but I'm using 140 fiber
> cables at this point.
>
> Now if I move the the DIY AE system maybe I can get 48 per 1U.  That will
> give me 192 AE customers in a 4U space.  But now I'm dealing with either 4
> or 8 power plugs.  Not to mention 192 individual fiber jumpers to keep
> track of.
>
>
> Now there once was an argument that with AE, one could guarantee 1G speeds
> at each port.  I don't think that argument holds much water anymore.  With
> GPON you can sell 1G download speeds at 16 to 1 ratio.  10G GPON is
> available now where you can down to 3 to 1 ration.  I believe there is
> even a 40G GPON so to be available.
>
> AE's advantage is distance and it being AE.  For example being it is AE
> you can interrupt fiber run with a wireless link if needed, can't do that
> with GPON.
>
>
> "If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all 30
> homes active E".  That is great, but now you have to have a cabinet that
> needs power and BBU.  You are sharing a 1G , unless you you pop for a 10G
> laser.  Under GPON, you just go out and pop in a 1x32 splitter and off you
> go. No cabinet or power needed.
>
>
> At the end of the day the individual has to look at the pro/cons of each
> system and figure out the right tool for the job.
>
>
> *-- Best regards, Mark*mailto:m...@mailmt.com
> 
>
>
> *Myakka Technologies, Inc. *www.MyakkaTech.com
>
>
>
>
>
> *-- Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 2:52:22 PM, you wrote: *
>
> So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use this
> vs active ethernet?
>
> *From: *
> *Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] **Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
> *To: *
> *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group **Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>
> It works fine.  We have it in 2 subdivisions.
> It is brain dead simple to configure.
> Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.  The ONU (cpe) can
> run in bridge or router mode.  I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are
> capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat.
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>
> Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment?  I
> have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought
> I'd check with the group.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Nice tool boxes

[Eric Kuhnke]

Best toolbox prices I have ever seen were from estate sales. Sometimes
possible to get something that would be a $3000 snapon new for $250.

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 9:04 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I need a larger tool box for my shop.  I have several nice Kennedy boxes
> but they are not suitable for larger mechanics tools.
> So looking for a nice used box.  Snap On, MAC, Mattco etc.
>
> In Utah, we have KSL classifieds.  Generally bargains can be found there.
> So I did some data entry.  I also checked Ebay.
>
> I found that nice high quality tool boxes run from 2 cents to 12 cents per
> cubic inch.
> Ebay is higher than KSL.
>
> Matco was about at the top for price, Mac and Cornwall were in the middle,
> Pro Series (they claim to be a Snap On competitor) were at the bottom.
>
> Snap Ons were scattered through the whole spread sheet.  I currently have
> 21 entries.
> Lowest cost is $990 Highest $8000
>
> I did not include Husky or any of the bargain brands.
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Re: [AFMUG] NOC Full Rack pricing

[Eric Kuhnke]

Since power was not specified he's looking at anywhere from $500/mo for one
cabinet up to $4000/mo.  Entirely dependent on where, power, connectivity.
Also know your cross connect NRCs and MRCs and contract terms before
getting into a colo.



On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:31 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> We'd probably let a full rack with 20 amp A + B in Chicago go for
> $2,500/month. I assume almost everywhere (outside of HFT-targeted stuff)
> would be less.
>
>
>
> -
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> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
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> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Monday, August 13, 2018 8:26:20 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] NOC Full Rack pricing
>
> What’s a ‘normal’ or ‘average’ monthly rate now days for a full rack in a
> datacenter?
>
>
>
> I’m pricing upgrading my half rack to a full rack, but it’s a ‘ghetto’ NOC
> with questionable cooling and ‘maybe’ the generator will kick on after a
> minute type of situation.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] NOC Full Rack pricing

[Eric Kuhnke]

That's *really* going to depend on where, if it's a major IX point, or just
some datacenter/colo in a 2nd tier or 3rd tier city. You want pricing for a
45RU rack with dual A and B 208V 30A power in One Wilshire or the Westin
Building?  Or something in Madison, WI?  Big difference.

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:27 PM Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

> What’s a ‘normal’ or ‘average’ monthly rate now days for a full rack in a
> datacenter?
>
>
>
> I’m pricing upgrading my half rack to a full rack, but it’s a ‘ghetto’ NOC
> with questionable cooling and ‘maybe’ the generator will kick on after a
> minute type of situation.
>
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[AFMUG] FCC and 24 + 28 GHz

[Eric Kuhnke]

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-18-109A1.pdf

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-18-109A2.pdf

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-18-109A3.pdf

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-18-109A4.pdf



eleased: 2018-08-03. AUCTIONS OF UPPER MICROWAVE FLEXIBLE USE LICENSE FOR
NEXT GENERATION WIRELESS SERVICES; NOTICE AND FILING REQUIREMENTS, MINIMUM
OPENING BIDS, UPFRONT PAYMENTS, AND OTHER PROCEDURES FOR AUCTIONS 101 (28
GHZ) AND 109 (24 GHZ). (Dkt No 18-85). FCC establishes the application and
bidding procedures for the upcoming auctions of UMFUS licenses in the 28
GHz and 24 GHz bands. (FCC No. 18-109). WTB. Action by: the Commission.
FCC-18-109A1.docx
 FCC-18-109A1.pdf
 FCC-18-109A1.txt
 FCC-18-109A2.docx
 FCC-18-109A2.pdf
 FCC-18-109A2.txt
 FCC-18-109A3.docx
 FCC-18-109A3.pdf
 FCC-18-109A3.txt
 FCC-18-109A4.docx
 FCC-18-109A4.pdf
 FCC-18-109A4.txt
 FCC-18-109A5.docx
 FCC-18-109A5.pdf
 FCC-18-109A5.txt

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Re: [AFMUG] Satellite internet stats

[Eric Kuhnke]

1) Up to 1 Gbps or more, if you have the budget for a large o3b earth
station.

2) o3b is around 150ms, absolute lowest you'll see for geostationary 1:1
SCPC is about 492ms

3) Totally depends on how it's engineered for fade margin.

4) Depends on money, again.


Your questions are sort of like asking "how fast is a fiber optic cable".
In actual practice, I think you're asking about consumer graded
highly-contended, shared network TDMA, small VSAT terminals, which Chuck M
summed up neatly as "suck, suck, suck".

Satellite should be a last resort if nothing else is available.

If people are willing to pay for it, satellite services that cost
$400-800/mo or more (vs $110/mo consumer VSAT) are a slightly lesser degree
of suck.

I designed and engineered serious, higher-budget, two way satellite for
defence contractors and government agencies for years - send me a question
offline if you have something more specific in mind.




On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 6:38 AM Eric Muehleisen  wrote:

> Does anyone out there have any stats or experiences with satellite
> internet that you could share?
>
> 1. What kind of down/up speeds can they deliver?
> 2. What is the RTT latency?
> 3. How much is the service impacted by weather?
> 4. What are the typical data caps and pricing?
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Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE

[Eric Kuhnke]

I have seen a person (not me) zip tie a cooking pot to the rear of a
nanobridge, in addition to the rfarmor kit, to cut down on noise from the
back side. It worked.


On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy  wrote:

> I have masked the front and painted the backs with galvanizing spray
> paint, but the difference was not really very noticeable.  I debated trying
> foil tape, but just gave up frequency reuse on that old UBNT gear.
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 10:47 AM,  wrote:
>
>> I would have cost them just a penny or two to have coated the inside of
>> the enclosure with aluminum deposition or nickel paint (or arc spray zinc)
>> to have eliminated much of that.
>>
>> I wonder what the difference would be to put foil on everything but the
>> area in the front where the antenna is...
>>
>> *From:* Jeremy
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 27, 2018 10:43 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF Armor for a CPE
>>
>> so it dropped from hearing at a -30 to a -36.  Still too hot for them
>> to both be on-channel obviously, since they put out so much noise out the
>> back.  Obviously a directional antenna like a Powerbeam will be different.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>>> In my experience testing RF armor on a two Nanostations facing opposite
>>> directions, ten feet apart from each other, each rf armor lowered the noise
>>> level by 3db.  So both of them lowered the level that they could hear each
>>> other by 6db.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Jay Weekley 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 How effective is RF Armor in reducing interference being received by an
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Re: [AFMUG] What is wrong with this deal?

[Eric Kuhnke]

step a) get buyers

step b) send buyers a fake paypal payment page that is a very well crafted
phish, collect credit card and personal details (or paypal logins
themselves for resale to other criminals)



On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Dave  wrote:

> has he been reported yet?
> With paypal its a garuanteed refund wut is he accomplishing
>
>
>
> On 07/26/2018 04:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> all of the seller's listings are basically scams, you're not getting a 55"
> 4K 60Hz TV for $89 shipped.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/jianjun_mal/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:25 PM,  wrote:
>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pulsar-1W-Portable-Dual-Fuel-
>> Propane-Gas-Generator-w-Electric-Start-G10KBN/153115389143?
>> epid=21020392458=item23a6636cd7%3Ag%3AvI8AAOSw9
>> NhbIjJf&_sop=15&_sacat=0&_nkw=electric+start+generator&_from=R40=nc
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Re: [AFMUG] What is wrong with this deal?

[Eric Kuhnke]

all of the seller's listings are basically scams, you're not getting a 55"
4K 60Hz TV for $89 shipped.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/jianjun_mal/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:25 PM,  wrote:

> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pulsar-1W-Portable-Dual-
> Fuel-Propane-Gas-Generator-w-Electric-Start-G10KBN/
> 153115389143?epid=21020392458=item23a6636cd7%3Ag%
> 3AvI8AAOSw9NhbIjJf&_sop=15&_sacat=0&_nkw=electric+start+
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[AFMUG] FCC pwns a felon

[Eric Kuhnke]

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-18-676A1.pdf
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Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18

[Eric Kuhnke]

Both are 80 MHz, but the AF11 only uses 56 MHz wide...  If you look at the
channel mask from a spectrum analyzer of an expensive carrier type 11 GHz
radio (Dragonwave, Ceragon) it uses nearly all of the 80.

18 GHz, 112MHz x dual pol products exist for the ETSI and international
market.



On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Of course I want to use an AF11X due to the price, but which band has the
> wider channels?
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Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11

[Eric Kuhnke]

ubnt does not publish the specific FEC coding types and percentages for the
AF11's modulations. What it's doing under the hood is kind of opaque...





On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> This brings up what I've been wondering when looking at the AF11 data
> sheets:
>
> A Trango Lynx on a 56mhz channel SISO without compression yields 486mbps
> Full Duplex at 1024QAM.
> An AF11X SISO on the same channel size at 1024QAM yields 344mbps Full
> Duplex.
>
> What's the deal?  Lower cyclic prefix on AF11?
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
> On 7/17/2018 2:28 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> With limited spectrum, it's an accurate statement. On a single polarity,
> 56mhz channel an AF-11 will get slightly less throughput than something
> like an old SAF Lumina (and the AF11 is using 1024QAM vs 256QAM, to get not
> even as much capacity, which means it needs a higher link budget). However,
> if spectrum isn't a problem, you need to spend a lot more money to get
> similar throughput to either of these radios with anything else.
>
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
> wrote:
>
>> >>> Neither radio has much better performance than a 10 year old
>> traditional 256 QAM radio.
>>
>> One should take that with a grain of salt !
>> In absolute terms, yes that could be an accurate statement.
>> How is pans out in reality is questionable !
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
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>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 17, 2018 1:36:15 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11
>>
>> I don't have an incentive to use either as there is so little 11 GHz
>> spectrum in my area.
>>
>>
>> Neither radio has much better performance than a 10 year old traditional
>> 256 QAM radio.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
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>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
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>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:32:20 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11
>>
>> More dependable, predictable, etc.
>> I take it you like the B11? I like the radio interface and SFP on that
>> radio, I like just about everything else on the AF11.
>>
>> I've just read about several instances where people have replaced the B11
>> with the AF11fx - I haven't read a single one the opposite way around. I'd
>> like to hear if you've had a different experience.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 17, 2018, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>>> Define "better".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
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>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>> *Sent: *Monday, July 16, 2018 8:02:34 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF-11FX vs B11
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with both of these that can provide some
>>> guidance as to which has worked better?
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[AFMUG] Mikrotik LHG60 PTP RF polarity

[Eric Kuhnke]

It's dual linear H polarity from the feed to the dish, right?
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[AFMUG] How ACH works

[Eric Kuhnke]

https://engineering.gusto.com/how-ach-works-a-developer-perspective-part-1/

Might be of interest for those of you whose billing systems are set up for
ACH direct debits via checking account numbers.
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Re: [AFMUG] Long Narrow Batteries

[Eric Kuhnke]

Another major manufacturer of these is SBS (storage battery systems), for
19 and 23" width front terminal telecom type.

http://www.sbsbattery.com/


On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> WE use Northstar reds (100ah)
>
> https://www.northstarbattery.com/product/nsb-100ft-red
> I'll tell you in another five years if they are worth it.
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:58 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> Not sure about a proper term, but typically large front-terminal
>> batteries like that are designed for telco applications. The idea is to
>> create a 48 volt bank easily with linking bars between them. Four will fit
>> side-by-side on a battery shelf in a standard 19" rack. And even larger
>> ones for standard 23" racking.
>>
>> Interstate, Deka, and many other mfgs. Probably going to order some Deka
>> Unigy 12AVR100-ET for my next site rebuild with a rectifier.
>>
>>
>> On 6/25/2018 12:44 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>> Yeah that's the stuff.  Is there a proper term for that form factor?
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Cassidy B. Larson" 
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> Sent: 6/25/2018 1:25:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Long Narrow Batteries
>>
>> How about:
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/ybzhdchr
>>
>> The vendor has some other ones similar form factor, higher AH.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for stuff like this:
>> https://www.alpha.ca/solutions/solutions-alpha-catalog/
>> batteries/batteries/item/alphacell-195-gxl-ft
>>
>> The long narrow batteries seem like they would fit nicely in the bottom
>> of a cabinet.  Front terminals should make installation and service easier.
>> I'm not looking for Gel specifically, just the Alpha ones happen to be
>> gel.
>>
>> What other sources are there besides Alpha?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adam
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Re: [AFMUG] Recent licensed link pricing?

[Eric Kuhnke]

If you've received pricing from both SIAE for the AlfoPlus2 and Dragonwave
for that sort of setup, I would be interested to see (off-list) how they
compare.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:00 AM, Peter Kranz  wrote:

> Anyone priced out 18Ghz capable hardware recently? Need to do a new 3 link
> build, thinking of using Dragonwave-X Harmony Enhanced MC radios.
> http://www.dragonwavex.com/products/packet-microwave/harmony-enhancedmc
>
>
>
> Curious if any new players in the market are more cost effective than
> Dragonwave for a dual-carrier, all outdoor, 2x80Mhz 4096QAM capable radio.
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
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