Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
He blamed bandwidth for an email not getting delivered for days... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 8:37 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > For all the shit he caught for that statement, he wasn’t wrong :-) > > Mark > > On Sep 18, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Well, as Senator Ted Stevens famously said, "the Internet is not something > that you just dump something on, it's not a big truck. It's *a series of > tubes*. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled, and if > they're filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line it's going to > be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material." > > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 7:17 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? > > The best explanation is just like the water system as well. If theres a > water main break everyone suffers, boil water, low water pressure, etc. > I usually explain the internet is a giant road system when people talk > about lag and such. "well it takes longer to drive to California than to > Chicago so yes its going to take longer" kind of thing. The "bowling ball > down a garden hose" analogy has been used a few times as well. > > Interneting is as hard as adulting. > > Andy Trimmell > Business Manager > PDS Connect > 317-831-3000 > > > > -Original Message- > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] On > Behalf Of Nate Burke > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:03 PM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? > > Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with > multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her Internet > off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, apparently > were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her internet with > all her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was just sharing > with my neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of > > my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her > internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the problem, > because all the other kids still need to do school. I told her > > to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they > are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all day > long. > > I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying > was hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to > me' So I can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have > a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
For all the shit he caught for that statement, he wasn’t wrong :-) Mark > On Sep 18, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Well, as Senator Ted Stevens famously said, "the Internet is not something > that you just dump something on, it's not a big truck. It's a series of > tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled, and if they're > filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line it's going to be > delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material." > > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 7:17 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? > > The best explanation is just like the water system as well. If theres a water > main break everyone suffers, boil water, low water pressure, etc. > I usually explain the internet is a giant road system when people talk about > lag and such. "well it takes longer to drive to California than to Chicago so > yes its going to take longer" kind of thing. The "bowling ball down a garden > hose" analogy has been used a few times as well. > > Interneting is as hard as adulting. > > Andy Trimmell > Business Manager > PDS Connect > 317-831-3000 > > > > -Original Message- > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On > Behalf Of Nate Burke > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:03 PM > To: Animal Farm > Subject: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? > > Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with > multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her Internet > off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, apparently > were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her internet with all > her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was just sharing with my > neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of > > my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her internet > CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the problem, because all > the other kids still need to do school. I told her > > to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they are > all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all day long. > > I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying was > hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to me' So I > can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have a good > analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com>-- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
Well, as Senator Ted Stevens famously said, "the Internet is not something that you just dump something on, it's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled, and if they're filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material." -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 7:17 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? The best explanation is just like the water system as well. If theres a water main break everyone suffers, boil water, low water pressure, etc. I usually explain the internet is a giant road system when people talk about lag and such. "well it takes longer to drive to California than to Chicago so yes its going to take longer" kind of thing. The "bowling ball down a garden hose" analogy has been used a few times as well. Interneting is as hard as adulting. Andy Trimmell Business Manager PDS Connect 317-831-3000 -Original Message- From: AF [ <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:03 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her Internet off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, apparently were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her internet with all her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was just sharing with my neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the problem, because all the other kids still need to do school. I told her to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all day long. I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying was hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to me' So I can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? -- AF mailing list <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> AF@af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> AF@af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
The best explanation is just like the water system as well. If theres a water main break everyone suffers, boil water, low water pressure, etc. I usually explain the internet is a giant road system when people talk about lag and such. "well it takes longer to drive to California than to Chicago so yes its going to take longer" kind of thing. The "bowling ball down a garden hose" analogy has been used a few times as well. Interneting is as hard as adulting. Andy Trimmell Business Manager PDS Connect 317-831-3000 -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:03 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her Internet off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, apparently were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her internet with all her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was just sharing with my neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the problem, because all the other kids still need to do school. I told her to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all day long. I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying was hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to me' So I can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
I wonder if you dialed down her speed to the point she was calling and complaining then you tell her that there is an infected computer in her house. Of course this is all academic now. Cat's out of the bag. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 6:52 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? I've never had someone react that way if I added that the attack on them also affected other customers, because attacks these days are so huge they don't just "boot" the targeted gamer off the Internet, they affect other customers fed by the same fiber or microwave feed. People already used the example of roads. What about power, water and gas lines, would she be offended to find out those are also "shared" with the neighbors? But I don't think you even need to explain that much. Too much information. Her Internet connection was targeted with a flood of traffic intended to "boot" her off the Internet. She's not a government or a huge corporation, so the only reason someone would do this is a gamer in her house was talking smack to another gamer who paid for the attack to teach the smack talking gamer a lesson. There is no way to find or sanction the other gamer or the booter site, so the only solution is to either play against people you know, or tone down your trash talking on the audio or video chat. Did you actually suspend her account, or was that just the result of the DDoS mitigation? For a first strike, I'd do education. Second strike, tell them this is the last warning, if there's a third incident, their account is disconnected and won't be turned back on, per your acceptable use policy. If it's really important that not happen, well, maybe she needs to make sure that doesn't happen. If her Internet was off for an hour or a few hours due to mitigating the DDoS attack, why should you take the blame. Somebody paid a botnet to "boot" one of her gamer kids off the Internet. Booter bad. Kid who pissed off booter bad. Nate good. Don't blame Nate. Listen to Nate when he tells you how to avoid pissing off people and getting booted. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? The traffic is so huge it has spilled out into all of the internet in this area. If it gets worse you could see a regional internet blackout. -Original Message- From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? The analogy that I used recently was: The attack has all the sophistication of someone putting up road closed & detour signs to direct a major expressway down your driveway.Nothing was compromised, but your driveway isn’t big enough for all the traffic. Mark On Sep 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Nate Burke wrote: Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her Internet off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, apparently were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her internet with all her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was just sharing with my neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the problem, because all the other kids still need to do school. I told her to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all day long. I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying was hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to me' So I can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
I've never had someone react that way if I added that the attack on them also affected other customers, because attacks these days are so huge they don't just "boot" the targeted gamer off the Internet, they affect other customers fed by the same fiber or microwave feed. People already used the example of roads. What about power, water and gas lines, would she be offended to find out those are also "shared" with the neighbors? But I don't think you even need to explain that much. Too much information. Her Internet connection was targeted with a flood of traffic intended to "boot" her off the Internet. She's not a government or a huge corporation, so the only reason someone would do this is a gamer in her house was talking smack to another gamer who paid for the attack to teach the smack talking gamer a lesson. There is no way to find or sanction the other gamer or the booter site, so the only solution is to either play against people you know, or tone down your trash talking on the audio or video chat. Did you actually suspend her account, or was that just the result of the DDoS mitigation? For a first strike, I'd do education. Second strike, tell them this is the last warning, if there's a third incident, their account is disconnected and won't be turned back on, per your acceptable use policy. If it's really important that not happen, well, maybe she needs to make sure that doesn't happen. If her Internet was off for an hour or a few hours due to mitigating the DDoS attack, why should you take the blame. Somebody paid a botnet to "boot" one of her gamer kids off the Internet. Booter bad. Kid who pissed off booter bad. Nate good. Don't blame Nate. Listen to Nate when he tells you how to avoid pissing off people and getting booted. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 7:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? The traffic is so huge it has spilled out into all of the internet in this area. If it gets worse you could see a regional internet blackout. -Original Message- From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? The analogy that I used recently was: The attack has all the sophistication of someone putting up road closed & detour signs to direct a major expressway down your driveway.Nothing was compromised, but your driveway isn’t big enough for all the traffic. Mark > On Sep 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with > multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her > Internet off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream > circuits, apparently were really bad, and now she think that she's > 'sharing' her internet with all her neighbors, and 'Never would have > signed up if I was just sharing with my neighbors', and 'why am I able > to affect any of my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also > said that her internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house > caused the problem, because all the other kids still need to do > school. I told her to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm > sure in her eyes, they are all little angels, probably just playing the > Sesame Street game all day long. > > I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was > saying was hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect > sense to me' So I can't come up with a better way to explain it. > Does anyone have a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is > happening? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
This video is a decent explanation. It's important to explain to the customer that her kids computer has been infected and is part of the attacker network. Explain that one or more of her homes computers or devices has been hit with the virus that causes her home internet connection to be the villain through one of the devices. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhGh9CEIwM Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 8:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? The traffic is so huge it has spilled out into all of the internet in this area. If it gets worse you could see a regional internet blackout. -Original Message- From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? The analogy that I used recently was: The attack has all the sophistication of someone putting up road closed & detour signs to direct a major expressway down your driveway.Nothing was compromised, but your driveway isn’t big enough for all the traffic. Mark > On Sep 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with > multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her > Internet off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, > apparently were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her > internet with all her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was > just sharing with my neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of my > neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her internet > CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the problem, because > all the other kids still need to do school. I told her to talk to her > kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they are all little > angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all day long. > > I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying > was hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to > me' So I can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have > a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
The traffic is so huge it has spilled out into all of the internet in this area. If it gets worse you could see a regional internet blackout. -Original Message- From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS? The analogy that I used recently was: The attack has all the sophistication of someone putting up road closed & detour signs to direct a major expressway down your driveway.Nothing was compromised, but your driveway isn’t big enough for all the traffic. Mark On Sep 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Nate Burke wrote: Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her Internet off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, apparently were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her internet with all her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was just sharing with my neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the problem, because all the other kids still need to do school. I told her to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all day long. I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying was hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to me' So I can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
The analogy that I used recently was: The attack has all the sophistication of someone putting up road closed & detour signs to direct a major expressway down your driveway.Nothing was compromised, but your driveway isn’t big enough for all the traffic. Mark > On Sep 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with > multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her Internet > off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, apparently > were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her internet with all > her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was just sharing with my > neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of my neighbors, that means they > can affect me' She also said that her internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 > kid in the house caused the problem, because all the other kids still need to > do school. I told her to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure > in her eyes, they are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame > Street game all day long. > > I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying was > hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to me' So I > can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have a good > analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
I don't know if there is a simple way to explain DDOS to a lay person. So
many of the terms would be foreign, or misunderstood.
There is a half-way decent explanation in Wikopedia (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack), but your mother
won't understand how her "network resource" was discovered.
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 4:05 PM Nate Burke wrote:
> Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with
> multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her
> Internet off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits,
> apparently were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her
> internet with all her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I
> was just sharing with my neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of
> my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her
> internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the
> problem, because all the other kids still need to do school. I told her
> to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they
> are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all
> day long.
>
> I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was
> saying was hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect
> sense to me' So I can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does
> anyone have a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is
> happening?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
Your kids encouraged a party of 18 semis and 37 RVs to come down the one lane backroad because they did something. This prevents anyone else from using the road. > On Sep 17, 2020, at 7:05 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with > multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her Internet > off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, apparently > were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her internet with all > her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was just sharing with my > neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of my neighbors, that means they > can affect me' She also said that her internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 > kid in the house caused the problem, because all the other kids still need to > do school. I told her to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure > in her eyes, they are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame > Street game all day long. > > I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying was > hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to me' So I > can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have a good > analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] How do you explain a DDOS?
Just tried to explain to a working mother, while she was at work, with multiple kids at home, how a DDOS works, and why I had to shut her Internet off. My examples of how a DDOS affects the upstream circuits, apparently were really bad, and now she think that she's 'sharing' her internet with all her neighbors, and 'Never would have signed up if I was just sharing with my neighbors', and 'why am I able to affect any of my neighbors, that means they can affect me' She also said that her internet CAN'T be shut off, if just 1 kid in the house caused the problem, because all the other kids still need to do school. I told her to talk to her kids about online gaming, but I'm sure in her eyes, they are all little angels, probably just playing the Sesame Street game all day long. I get it, she's probably stressed, and so comprehending what I was saying was hard. I'm running into the problem of 'this makes perfect sense to me' So I can't come up with a better way to explain it. Does anyone have a good analogy, or call center script to explain what is happening? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
