[AFMUG] Tower Cameras
I know this topic has been discussed here before. What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower? Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone approaching. I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a zoom at the tower box. We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it has happened. This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. Took batteries, cut power cables, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
[AFMUG] weird BGP issue question
I am working with a client right now on multi-homing their network. I have done multi-homing several times before and have never run into a situation like this. When we run a single Peer (receiving default route only) everything works fine. When we run both peers then there is a route propagation issue with some of the upstreams peers. The routes seem to come and go (Some sites have no problem others load sporadically). This client has their own IP Blocks. We have looked at multiple looking glass routers and do not see any issue. Internal network is OSPF . Routers are Mikrotik RB1100AHx2. All routes are advertising fine, all filters in place are correct. Anyone else seen an issue like this before? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Network diversity is your friend. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 4:26:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Those customers don't need service anyway. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 6, 2015 5:09 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Frak, must still have an old Cyclone up there. I swapped out a backhaul radio and radioed to the ground to have them swap from UBNT to Cambium PoE. The link light was flashing when the previous radio didn't have an Ethernet issue. Left the site because the city was there to close it up. Went back today to try to sort it out. Spent most of the time I was at the site figuring out why radios were plugged into wrong PoEs across the board. City came to close up the site before I tracked down the original problem. For another day... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 3:12:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff So either FSK, 430 450 gear On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
The DVR should work great. I use their UniFi video software on a Windows box and it works well, and has a phone app. I like it a lot better than the video surveillance that I am using at home. I am planning to switch it all out for UniFi, and use my home server as the NVR. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Good to know. I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some cameras that I have. I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will not allow remote access so screw it. *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with them, for the price. I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they really only work for watching the road in. Plus, the current dome has a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I know this topic has been discussed here before. What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower? Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone approaching. I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a zoom at the tower box. We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it has happened. This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. Took batteries, cut power cables, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Unifi controller upgrade
We're still on 3.27. Many of the upgrades I have tried on unifi have
been adventures in frustration. Not a big fan.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/5/2015 1:32 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'm running the unifi wireless controller v3.2.10 on CentOS 6. So I
did the config backup in the GUI, selected the everything option to
keep all of the stats. Stopped the controller. I then downloaded the
Unifi 4.6.6 unix zip release. Started the new controller. Opened the
GUI and restored the 3.2.10 backup. Restarted the controller. I get
the login page. Put in my old username and password. It doesn't say
invalid user or password, just reloads the login page. If I put in
obviously invalid credentials, it tells me the username or password is
invalid. So the existing user/pass seems to be validated, but it
refuses to let me log in. I rolled back to 3.2.10 (just a symlink
change) and everything works fine. At least v4 didn't attempt to
upgrade and re-provision the deployed APs.
Anybody else tried this? I really don't want to rebuild everything
from scratch. What am I missing?
Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs
Technically, you can get away with this...
However in terms of best practices, it is not advisable
(in many cases, these vlans are going to get connected to other non-mikrotik
devices, and as such they may or may not be able to distinguish between them..)
If you are going to do this, at the very least document the vlan id's to
include the port #.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
- Original Message -
From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 12:28:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs
yes MT
For the most part I couldnt see a time I would want to bridge the ports.
Just something simple like saying VLAN ID 255 is reserved on the network for
the router to router OSPF communications. the third octet of the VLAN IDs is
always 255 so it would keep it uniform for remembering. The 4th octet is our
site ID, I could use a combination of site IDs to each link, but then you
run into a monkey trying to figure out which id is first and which is
second, then they get confused and start clicking things, then it becomes a
click orgy. next thing you know theyre at the command line with a browser
window open googling things to type, then I end up with router herpes.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
On a MT?
AFAIK, the VLANs on one port are not connected to the VLANs on another
port.
In other words, each VLAN is like a new port.
You could then bridge ether1-VLANxyz to ether2-VLANxyz if you were so
inclined.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/6/2015 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Will I break the internet of things of I reuse the same vlan ID on
multiple
ports
This is solely for simplified deployment of site routers since it turns
out
I
need my OSPF subnets on vlans so I dont have to keep track of a billion
vlan
IDs as well as a billion /30s
The ports would not be bridged, just share a VLAN ID
I assume this is a big No No, more curious on the impact of doing so
--
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as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Do you have a DHCP Server? I've seen them get a DHCP Address instead of sticking at the default IP. On 7/6/2015 1:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Other-PMP-Solutions/Canopy-SM-Mac-Address-Changes-With-Settings/m-p/31770#M27166 2010 post so probably fsk pmp100 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff So either FSK, 430 450 gear On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Clarify this Matt…
Alignment tone 430 SM to 450 AP now?
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
We spent a LOT of time on those George… we nailed many of them cold in 13.4.
Please let us know if you’re still seeing them (“watchdog reset” can mean lots
of things, there were a couple of cases that we couldn’t reproduce).
Regarding the “Adobe connecting to review server” thing… ignore it. That was
likely an oversight on our part. We use that server to allow multiple folks to
review and comment on the release notes (you know, for version control,
collaboration, etc.). We were rushing a bit to get the documentation over the
finish line this week before the holiday.
Alignment tone is there and working!
Let us know if you guys find anything else we should know about, this one was a
long time coming… but we’re proud of the finished product. Enjoy.
Happy 4th of July to all!
Matt
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Hopefully the watchdog resets on 450 APs goes away. That is getting stupid on
13.2.1. Just had another one about 10 minutes ago.
On 7/2/2015 7:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
We have been running 13.4 build 11 for some time now. I have not seen any
major issues with it.
The 450 build works fine on the 430 AP’s.
The only thing that I know was a problem was P8 FSK radios bricking when
upgraded to build 11. I have not read the release notes to see if the release
version addresses that problem.
Mark
On Jul 2, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
There is an announcement on the 430 page that the 450 load should be used on
430s needing to connect to a 450 AP.
How is this supposed to be managed? Is there a reason to actually load the 430
firmware on a 430 (anything)?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/2/2015 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'm just about to look through the release notes. And then GTFO here for the
long weekend!
They said the alignment tone issue required a new FPGA build. Guess they got it
done for 13.4. AFAIK, this was only on the 450, PMP100 wasn't affected. Maybe
it messed up the 430 too?
Combined firmware? You mean for 430 and 450? I guess so. But FSK is still a
separate package.
On 7/2/2015 4:53 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
Definitely different than before. There are mentions of the alignment tone
being fixed in the release notes but I'm not sure if it's for PMP450 or PMP100
or what. Now that it's all combined firmware.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Is it just me, or was this distributed differently than in the past? I don’t
remember .zip files with the release notes inside. Also when I opened the
release notes, Adobe Reader wanted to connect to a “review server” and share my
email address etc. with all other reviewers. WTF? Did I just hit some hotkey
accidentally?
Also, I don’t see anything in the release notes about SM alignment tone.
Didn’t this break from 13.2.1 to 13.3? To be fixed in 13.4? Or is my brain
just not working today. I thought it was 13.3 and all its progeny were dead to
me because I can’t live without oxygen, water, and alignment tone.
Lots of cool stuff in 13.4, like sector wide SA, but I need my alignment tone.
From: Ryan Ray mailto:ryan...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Who's gonna be the first guinea pig? Make sure to do a 1000 unit upgrade and
let us know how it goes :P
Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Can 13.4 connect to older firmware? Do we need to upgrade sm’s first before an
AP?
Thanks,
Josh Heide
Network Engineer
Velociter Wireless, Inc.
(209)838-1221 x108
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet
Communications Inc
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 1:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Clarify this Matt…
Alignment tone 430 SM to 450 AP now?
Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131
317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net
[ICI]
What can ICI do for you?
Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
We spent a LOT of time on those George… we nailed many of them cold in 13.4.
Please let us know if you’re still seeing them (“watchdog reset” can mean lots
of things, there were a couple of cases that we couldn’t reproduce).
Regarding the “Adobe connecting to review server” thing… ignore it. That was
likely an oversight on our part. We use that server to allow multiple folks to
review and comment on the release notes (you know, for version control,
collaboration, etc.). We were rushing a bit to get the documentation over the
finish line this week before the holiday.
Alignment tone is there and working!
Let us know if you guys find anything else we should know about, this one was a
long time coming… but we’re proud of the finished product. Enjoy.
Happy 4th of July to all!
Matt
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:33 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Hopefully the watchdog resets on 450 APs goes away. That is getting stupid on
13.2.1. Just had another one about 10 minutes ago.
On 7/2/2015 7:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
We have been running 13.4 build 11 for some time now. I have not seen any
major issues with it.
The 450 build works fine on the 430 AP’s.
The only thing that I know was a problem was P8 FSK radios bricking when
upgraded to build 11. I have not read the release notes to see if the release
version addresses that problem.
Mark
On Jul 2, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Bill Prince
part15...@gmail.commailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
There is an announcement on the 430 page that the 450 load should be used on
430s needing to connect to a 450 AP.
How is this supposed to be managed? Is there a reason to actually load the 430
firmware on a 430 (anything)?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/2/2015 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'm just about to look through the release notes. And then GTFO here for the
long weekend!
They said the alignment tone issue required a new FPGA build. Guess they got it
done for 13.4. AFAIK, this was only on the 450, PMP100 wasn't affected. Maybe
it messed up the 430 too?
Combined firmware? You mean for 430 and 450? I guess so. But FSK is still a
separate package.
On 7/2/2015 4:53 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
Definitely different than before. There are mentions of the alignment tone
being fixed in the release notes but I'm not sure if it's for PMP450 or PMP100
or what. Now that it's all combined firmware.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ken Hohhof
af...@kwisp.commailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Is it just me, or was this distributed differently than in the past? I don’t
remember .zip files with the release notes inside. Also when I opened the
release notes, Adobe Reader wanted to connect to a “review server” and share my
email address etc. with all other reviewers. WTF? Did I just hit some hotkey
accidentally?
Also, I don’t see anything in the release notes about SM alignment tone.
Didn’t this break from 13.2.1 to 13.3? To be fixed in 13.4? Or is my brain
just not working today. I thought it was 13.3 and all its progeny were dead to
me because I can’t live without oxygen, water, and alignment tone.
Lots of cool stuff in 13.4, like sector wide SA, but I need my alignment tone.
From: Ryan Raymailto:ryan...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:11 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Who's gonna be the first guinea pig? Make sure to do a 1000 unit upgrade and
let us know how it goes :P
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Frak, must still have an old Cyclone up there. I swapped out a backhaul radio and radioed to the ground to have them swap from UBNT to Cambium PoE. The link light was flashing when the previous radio didn't have an Ethernet issue. Left the site because the city was there to close it up. Went back today to try to sort it out. Spent most of the time I was at the site figuring out why radios were plugged into wrong PoEs across the board. City came to close up the site before I tracked down the original problem. For another day... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 3:12:52 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff So either FSK, 430 450 gear On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: blockquote Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com /blockquote
[AFMUG] Netonix VLAN
Hi all, Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily. The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this setup? Any help here would be appreciated. Josh
[AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig
While filling up at San Felipe gas station,I saw a police style car with all kinds of antennas with a long ass nameinitials actually. but on side of car it said UFO Investigators, Talked a bit to this guy who is PAID by a rich dude from Albuquerque to travel US investigating UFO sightings with another investigator, Has all kinds of equipment including SA and scanner. I lost his card somewhere ...maybe in truck...I hope. They were coming back from a two week investigation in Colorado. Taking a week rest and then to Malibu. Hell...getting paid to investigate UFO's!!! I would do that when I retire. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
They all WANT fiber but really dont need it amyways LOL On 07/06/2015 04:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Those customers don't need service anyway. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 6, 2015 5:09 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: Frak, must still have an old Cyclone up there. I swapped out a backhaul radio and radioed to the ground to have them swap from UBNT to Cambium PoE. The link light was flashing when the previous radio didn't have an Ethernet issue. Left the site because the city was there to close it up. Went back today to try to sort it out. Spent most of the time I was at the site figuring out why radios were plugged into wrong PoEs across the board. City came to close up the site before I tracked down the original problem. For another day... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us mailto:af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 3:12:52 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff So either FSK, 430 450 gear On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN
You can probably do better and just do a trunk or a lacp trunk so you don't need to waste ports. I'm a newb also but that seems like a huge waste of ports on the switch and your router. On Jul 6, 2015 2:21 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: Hi all, Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily. The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this setup? Any help here would be appreciated. Josh
Re: [AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig
I dunno, you get abducted and probed once, most probably don’t want to repeat that too many times... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:33 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig While filling up at San Felipe gas station,I saw a police style car with all kinds of antennas with a long ass nameinitials actually. but on side of car it said UFO Investigators, Talked a bit to this guy who is PAID by a rich dude from Albuquerque to travel US investigating UFO sightings with another investigator, Has all kinds of equipment including SA and scanner. I lost his card somewhere ...maybe in truck...I hope. They were coming back from a two week investigation in Colorado. Taking a week rest and then to Malibu. Hell...getting paid to investigate UFO's!!! I would do that when I retire. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
[AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs
Will I break the internet of things of I reuse the same vlan ID on multiple ports This is solely for simplified deployment of site routers since it turns out I need my OSPF subnets on vlans so I dont have to keep track of a billion vlan IDs as well as a billion /30s The ports would not be bridged, just share a VLAN ID I assume this is a big No No, more curious on the impact of doing so -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs
On a MT?
AFAIK, the VLANs on one port are not connected to the VLANs on another
port. In other words, each VLAN is like a new port.
You could then bridge ether1-VLANxyz to ether2-VLANxyz if you were so
inclined.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/6/2015 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Will I break the internet of things of I reuse the same vlan ID on
multiple ports
This is solely for simplified deployment of site routers since it
turns out I need my OSPF subnets on vlans so I dont have to keep track
of a billion vlan IDs as well as a billion /30s
The ports would not be bridged, just share a VLAN ID
I assume this is a big No No, more curious on the impact of doing so
--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs
On Mikrotik, if you put vlan 40, say, on interface 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, but don’t
actually bridge any of them together, or trunk them on layer 2, they’ll never
see each other.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs
On a MT?
AFAIK, the VLANs on one port are not connected to the VLANs on another port. In
other words, each VLAN is like a new port.
You could then bridge ether1-VLANxyz to ether2-VLANxyz if you were so inclined.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/6/2015 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Will I break the internet of things of I reuse the same vlan ID on multiple
ports
This is solely for simplified deployment of site routers since it turns out I
need my OSPF subnets on vlans so I dont have to keep track of a billion vlan
IDs as well as a billion /30s
The ports would not be bridged, just share a VLAN ID
I assume this is a big No No, more curious on the impact of doing so
--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
Where is the funding coming from? I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over built. From: Christopher Gray Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service. Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit? Thanks - Chris
[AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
[AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service. Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit? Thanks - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
The DHCP server is bound to only the Ether1 interface. These radios are on other interfaces. It also happens direct into my laptop. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:15:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Do you have a DHCP Server? I've seen them get a DHCP Address instead of sticking at the default IP. On 7/6/2015 1:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
About $40M is grant funding from the state for last mile services that is only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with property tax. I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining competitive, though. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Where is the funding coming from? I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over built. *From:* Christopher Gray cg...@graytechsoftware.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service. Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit? Thanks - Chris
[AFMUG] For sale: 4x 2400SM
I have four radios that I just want gone. Can I get a reasonable offer and I'll ship them? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Yeah, my laptop on Ether1 is, but it's not one of the ones on Ether3 that I'm asking about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:40:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings You've got the same Dell! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
I wouldn't go into that area unless you can deploy so that you will not be completely dependent on the locations served by the fiber network (i.e. be able to serve rural areas as well). As Rory stated, the planned network is likely not sustainable - but it could put a strain on your customer count for a while. -Jason On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Christopher Gray cg...@graytechsoftware.com wrote: About $40M is grant funding from the state for last mile services that is only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with property tax. I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining competitive, though. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Where is the funding coming from? I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over built. *From:* Christopher Gray cg...@graytechsoftware.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service. Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit? Thanks - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
[AFMUG] WTB: 25 to 50 units of 9000SMC P10
Anybody have a box full of these they want to sell cheap? 9000SMC P10 Reply OFFLIST please. Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.comhttp://www.pdmnet.com/ pa...@pdmnet.netmailto:pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
They can’t. That’s the problem. After it becomes a budget drain for a while, it either gets sold, shut down, or the price goes up which costs more customers. Then there is the assumption they can actually build it out for the price they claim. Most of those projects have financial issues with contractors and don’t meet the numbers which delay them further. Go after them. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Gray Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 12:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? About $40M is grant funding from the state for last mile services that is only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with property tax. I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining competitive, though. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Where is the funding coming from? I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over built. From: Christopher Graymailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service. Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit? Thanks - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
You've got the same Dell! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends
Many years ago, yes. You're talking about the green cable. It was quite possibly the single most laughable joke of all time. I've used the carrier cable for ages, it's much better. I also really like the boxes for unspooling, too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote: Did they fix the UV resistance issue with toughcable? We tried a spool a few years back, and the jacket turned into dust pretty quick under the sun.. Vlad On 7/6/2015 5:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while. They're nearly identical. I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal preference. I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just looking to see what's out there. I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them. I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them. Are they worth looking at again? Anything else to look at? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends
Have you been buried under a rock for 5 years? On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote: Did they fix the UV resistance issue with toughcable? We tried a spool a few years back, and the jacket turned into dust pretty quick under the sun.. Vlad On 7/6/2015 5:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while. They're nearly identical. I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal preference. I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just looking to see what's out there. I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them. I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them. Are they worth looking at again? Anything else to look at? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends
Who are you buying the AIM plugs from? I find the price on 32-2298UL varies and it pays to shop around. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:33 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal preference. I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just looking to see what's out there. I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them. I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them. Are they worth looking at again? Anything else to look at? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
The earliest FSK stuff I have is 0a-00-3e-f0's and f1's. Those are P9 5.7. 03 and 04, maybe P8's? Possibly even P7's. Could be 5.2 or 5.4GHz though. Still really old. You should take pictures. On 7/6/2015 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff So either FSK, 430 450 gear On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote: Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net'); *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends
Did they fix the UV resistance issue with toughcable? We tried a spool a few years back, and the jacket turned into dust pretty quick under the sun.. Vlad On 7/6/2015 5:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while. They're nearly identical. I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal preference. I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just looking to see what's out there. I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them. I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them. Are they worth looking at again? Anything else to look at? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
It may not be the best area to go into... but it is the area I'm already in. I'm really debating about whether to do further expansion. I suppose I can just be conservative and only expand where I can get sufficient return in the 3 year window. Does anyone have any examples of successful low-cost rural fiber deployments? On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Wireless Admin wirel...@htn.net wrote: Remember, this is government. Government is the only thing that can fail miserably and still exist. For them payday still happens on Friday even after such a failure. Retirement with a pension is a given…… Steve B. -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Gray *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 3:10 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? About $40M is grant funding from the state for last mile services that is only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with property tax. I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining competitive, though. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Where is the funding coming from? I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over built. *From:* Christopher Gray cg...@graytechsoftware.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service. Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit? Thanks - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends
I don't buy the ESD wire gimmick. Terminate the foil correctly and it will work fine. As much as I hate Primus cable, their shielded ends have been good to me. Large enough wire channels for the Best-Tronics/Belden 7919A stuff. The Shireen stuff seems to fit well in them too. I think the last 100 we ordered were from Baltic. The number on the bag I have is CN1-011-8C5SH. Says shielded, 3 prong for solid and stranded. The guys do still use the UBNT ends for installs. Had enough of those where the pins fall out and over crimp so they end up on an angle and the mating sucked enough that we got CRC/FCS errors. No more of that on towers. On 7/6/2015 5:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while. They're nearly identical. I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote: I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal preference. I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just looking to see what's out there. I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them. I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them. Are they worth looking at again? Anything else to look at? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
No. This is not in R13.4.
What I meant was that Alignment Tone was completely broken (on PMP 450) in
R13.3, and it is now fixed (for PMP 450 AP to PMP 450 SM).
Matt
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Clarify this Matt…
Alignment tone 430 SM to 450 AP now?
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
We spent a LOT of time on those George… we nailed many of them cold in 13.4.
Please let us know if you’re still seeing them (“watchdog reset” can mean lots
of things, there were a couple of cases that we couldn’t reproduce).
Regarding the “Adobe connecting to review server” thing… ignore it. That was
likely an oversight on our part. We use that server to allow multiple folks to
review and comment on the release notes (you know, for version control,
collaboration, etc.). We were rushing a bit to get the documentation over the
finish line this week before the holiday.
Alignment tone is there and working!
Let us know if you guys find anything else we should know about, this one was a
long time coming… but we’re proud of the finished product. Enjoy.
Happy 4th of July to all!
Matt
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:33 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Hopefully the watchdog resets on 450 APs goes away. That is getting stupid on
13.2.1. Just had another one about 10 minutes ago.
On 7/2/2015 7:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
We have been running 13.4 build 11 for some time now. I have not seen any
major issues with it.
The 450 build works fine on the 430 AP’s.
The only thing that I know was a problem was P8 FSK radios bricking when
upgraded to build 11. I have not read the release notes to see if the release
version addresses that problem.
Mark
On Jul 2, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Bill Prince
part15...@gmail.commailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
There is an announcement on the 430 page that the 450 load should be used on
430s needing to connect to a 450 AP.
How is this supposed to be managed? Is there a reason to actually load the 430
firmware on a 430 (anything)?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/2/2015 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'm just about to look through the release notes. And then GTFO here for the
long weekend!
They said the alignment tone issue required a new FPGA build. Guess they got it
done for 13.4. AFAIK, this was only on the 450, PMP100 wasn't affected. Maybe
it messed up the 430 too?
Combined firmware? You mean for 430 and 450? I guess so. But FSK is still a
separate package.
On 7/2/2015 4:53 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
Definitely different than before. There are mentions of the alignment tone
being fixed in the release notes but I'm not sure if it's for PMP450 or PMP100
or what. Now that it's all combined firmware.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ken Hohhof
af...@kwisp.commailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Is it just me, or was this distributed differently than in the past? I don’t
remember .zip files with the release notes inside. Also when I opened the
release notes, Adobe Reader wanted to connect to a “review server” and share my
email address etc. with all other reviewers. WTF? Did I just hit some hotkey
accidentally?
Also, I don’t see anything in the release notes about SM alignment tone.
Didn’t this break from 13.2.1 to 13.3? To be fixed in 13.4? Or is my brain
just not working today. I thought it was 13.3 and all its progeny were dead to
me because I can’t live without oxygen, water, and alignment tone.
Lots of cool stuff in 13.4, like sector wide SA, but I need my alignment tone.
From: Ryan Raymailto:ryan...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:11 PM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Software 13.4
Who's gonna be the first guinea pig? Make sure to do a 1000 unit upgrade and
let us know how it goes :P
Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN
I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the VLAN config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums under the unofficial guide. -Ty On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: Hi all, Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily. The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this setup? Any help here would be appreciated. Josh
Re: [AFMUG] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
I hope you got insurance on it... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has really been working on their carbon neutral packaging.. *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN
why use as a mid span and waste so many ports when you can trunk them all back to a single port right? is this because your exceeding 1gig? On Jul 6, 2015 4:14 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the VLAN config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums under the unofficial guide. -Ty On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: Hi all, Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily. The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this setup? Any help here would be appreciated. Josh
Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends
I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while. They're nearly identical. I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal preference. I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just looking to see what's out there. I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them. I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them. Are they worth looking at again? Anything else to look at? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements
Sorry about this guys... we were using third party tools for licensing, and have moved this. As usual, it could have been communicated better, so I apologize. It should work nearly exactly the same, and if you're having trouble finding your entitlements, send me an email (m...@cambiumnetworks.com) or email support (supp...@cambiumnetworks.com) , and we'll get you sorted out. (Note: we are still working to do keys in a better way... we have not forgotten the pain and suffering everyone endures on this front.) Matt -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements I suspect you will be fine if you still have the entitlement ID. I'm still trying to find the last one I had that I know has activations left. Damnit! On 7/6/2015 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Hm, I see what you're talking about. entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work differently. I don't remember if I still had entitlements left or not, I hope not because it seems they would be gone. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing. None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to 20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining. And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my account before any activations take place? That is stupid.
Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements
You know you could just not do licensing. Just sayin. I was able to find the entitlement ID I was looking for and everything worked fine on the new portal thingamajig. Moving things in-house is good. I just want to be able to pop a new entitlement into the portal when we buy it from a reseller, even if a seat hasn't been activated yet. I let the emails sit in my inbox and I forget they're there, mostly because there's 50 new messages on top. :( On 7/6/2015 6:12 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: Sorry about this guys... we were using third party tools for licensing, and have moved this. As usual, it could have been communicated better, so I apologize. It should work nearly exactly the same, and if you're having trouble finding your entitlements, send me an email (m...@cambiumnetworks.com) or email support (supp...@cambiumnetworks.com) , and we'll get you sorted out. (Note: we are still working to do keys in a better way... we have not forgotten the pain and suffering everyone endures on this front.) Matt -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements I suspect you will be fine if you still have the entitlement ID. I'm still trying to find the last one I had that I know has activations left. Damnit! On 7/6/2015 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Hm, I see what you're talking about. entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work differently. I don't remember if I still had entitlements left or not, I hope not because it seems they would be gone. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing. None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to 20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining. And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my account before any activations take place? That is stupid.
[AFMUG] PTP800 software issue
I have a radio set that I inherited through a company purchase that has a software issue (Rel. 800-06-01) that does not allow it to ping from outside networks. I was wondering if anyone out there has Rel. 800-06-02 software (release notes show that it resolves that ICMP issue) that they would be willing to share. This is an annoying issue but not enough of one to buy a new support contract so I can download it directly from Cambium's web site. I would put an older load on the radio that I had from my other PTP800 units, but for 2 reasons: 1. I am not sure how the radios handle a software downgrade, and 2. (more important reason) My PC with archived software releases on it had a hard drive failure without a backup 3 months ago. Thank you, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.
[AFMUG] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has really been working on their carbon neutral packaging.. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
I would have suggested rejecting the shipment.. On 07/06/2015 05:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I hope you got insurance on it... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has really been working on their carbon neutral packaging.. *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 tel:510-868-1614%20x100 Mobile: 510-207- tel:510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com !DSPAM:2,559b19a9138231526818150! ___ Ubnt_users mailing list ubnt_us...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users !DSPAM:2,559b19a9138231526818150!
Re: [AFMUG] weird BGP issue question
Erich, With the little bit of info you are providing, it is hard to help. You spoke of both inbound routes and outbound routes. Which direction are you having issues with? Is the client using a Public or Private AS number? Do your outbound filters only allow your network to be advertised, or do they allow your router to propagate routes from one peer to the next? Do your inbound filters filter out routes that include your network? What are your filters allowing and blocking? Can you share with the group your filters? I am assuming that your BGP peers are showing established with the appropriate uptime. I would also ask if you contacted your peers and asked them what they are seeing? Gilbert On 7/6/2015 6:36 AM, Erich Kaiser wrote: I am working with a client right now on multi-homing their network. I have done multi-homing several times before and have never run into a situation like this. When we run a single Peer (receiving default route only) everything works fine. When we run both peers then there is a route propagation issue with some of the upstreams peers. The routes seem to come and go (Some sites have no problem others load sporadically). This client has their own IP Blocks. We have looked at multiple looking glass routers and do not see any issue. Internal network is OSPF . Routers are Mikrotik RB1100AHx2. All routes are advertising fine, all filters in place are correct. Anyone else seen an issue like this before? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291
Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements
Hm, I see what you're talking about. entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work differently. I don't remember if I still had entitlements left or not, I hope not because it seems they would be gone. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing. None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to 20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining. And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my account before any activations take place? That is stupid.
Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
Remember, this is government. Government is the only thing that can fail miserably and still exist. For them payday still happens on Friday even after such a failure. Retirement with a pension is a given.. Steve B. _ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Gray Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? About $40M is grant funding from the state for last mile services that is only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with property tax. I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining competitive, though. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Where is the funding coming from? I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over built. From: Christopher Gray mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service. Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit? Thanks - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements
I suspect you will be fine if you still have the entitlement ID. I'm still trying to find the last one I had that I know has activations left. Damnit! On 7/6/2015 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Hm, I see what you're talking about. entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work differently. I don't remember if I still had entitlements left or not, I hope not because it seems they would be gone. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing. None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to 20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining. And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my account before any activations take place? That is stupid.
[AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends
I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal preference. I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just looking to see what's out there. I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them. I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them. Are they worth looking at again? Anything else to look at? Nate
Re: [AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig
Hey wait a minute. No Kool Kat would like me would allow that,...I'd knife them ese! Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I dunno, you get abducted and probed once, most probably don’t want to repeat that too many times... *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 3:33 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig While filling up at San Felipe gas station,I saw a police style car with all kinds of antennas with a long ass nameinitials actually. but on side of car it said UFO Investigators, Talked a bit to this guy who is PAID by a rich dude from Albuquerque to travel US investigating UFO sightings with another investigator, Has all kinds of equipment including SA and scanner. I lost his card somewhere ...maybe in truck...I hope. They were coming back from a two week investigation in Colorado. Taking a week rest and then to Malibu. Hell...getting paid to investigate UFO's!!! I would do that when I retire. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
[AFMUG] cambium entitlements
OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing. None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to 20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining. And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my account before any activations take place? That is stupid.
Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements
Maybe that's the plan. Like all the gift cards that are never redeemed. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements You know you could just not do licensing. Just sayin. I was able to find the entitlement ID I was looking for and everything worked fine on the new portal thingamajig. Moving things in-house is good. I just want to be able to pop a new entitlement into the portal when we buy it from a reseller, even if a seat hasn't been activated yet. I let the emails sit in my inbox and I forget they're there, mostly because there's 50 new messages on top. :( On 7/6/2015 6:12 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: Sorry about this guys... we were using third party tools for licensing, and have moved this. As usual, it could have been communicated better, so I apologize. It should work nearly exactly the same, and if you're having trouble finding your entitlements, send me an email (m...@cambiumnetworks.com) or email support (supp...@cambiumnetworks.com) , and we'll get you sorted out. (Note: we are still working to do keys in a better way... we have not forgotten the pain and suffering everyone endures on this front.) Matt -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements I suspect you will be fine if you still have the entitlement ID. I'm still trying to find the last one I had that I know has activations left. Damnit! On 7/6/2015 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Hm, I see what you're talking about. entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work differently. I don't remember if I still had entitlements left or not, I hope not because it seems they would be gone. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing. None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to 20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining. And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my account before any activations take place? That is stupid.
Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
Assuming you didn't have to recoup build costs, I don't see how it would be hard to run the network at $50 per sub. Bandwidth is dirt cheep at scale and there isn't much to go wrong with a fiber plant. On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Christopher Gray cg...@graytechsoftware.com wrote: About $40M is grant funding from the state for last mile services that is only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with property tax. I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining competitive, though. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Where is the funding coming from? I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over built. From: Christopher Gray Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service. Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit? Thanks - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN
Check here Josh. If you can't get it worked out I will help further. -Ty On Jul 6, 2015 7:50 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: We have an abundance of ports ATM, so using a simple VLAN seems to be our easiest bet, and helps us if we hit over a gig through the APs or BHs. Our router is the RB1100 as well, so many ports to go around. Ty, I couldn't find the unofficial guide section, can you point me in the right direction, taking screenshots would work as well, thanks. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:18 PM TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: why use as a mid span and waste so many ports when you can trunk them all back to a single port right? is this because your exceeding 1gig? On Jul 6, 2015 4:14 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the VLAN config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums under the unofficial guide. -Ty On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: Hi all, Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily. The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this setup? Any help here would be appreciated. Josh
Re: [AFMUG] CableOne
In town where the cable is already ran and you just need DOCSIS 3... Why not?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 6, 2015 9:50 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hey, So the cable provider in my area just increased their speeds to 100Mbps. So now you can get 100Mbps cable internet for $33/month for the 1st year... then it goes up to $59/month for year two. I don't know of anyone with this package yet, but that's pretty impressive for the price. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] CableOne
In town where the cable is already ran and you just need DOCSIS 3... Why not?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 6, 2015 9:50 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hey, So the cable provider in my area just increased their speeds to 100Mbps. So now you can get 100Mbps cable internet for $33/month for the 1st year... then it goes up to $59/month for year two. I don't know of anyone with this package yet, but that's pretty impressive for the price. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
Maybe Cambium will buy them back for the Cambium museum. (Motorola had a museum. Not sure what happened to it as Motorola split into a thousand pieces.) From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings The earliest FSK stuff I have is 0a-00-3e-f0's and f1's. Those are P9 5.7. 03 and 04, maybe P8's? Possibly even P7's. Could be 5.2 or 5.4GHz though. Still really old. You should take pictures. On 7/6/2015 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff So either FSK, 430 450 gear On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Sean Heskett javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
[AFMUG] FS: NIB 50 Powerbeams
PS. We did reject the shipment, another is on the way.. * So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has really been working on their carbon neutral packaging..
Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN
We have an abundance of ports ATM, so using a simple VLAN seems to be our easiest bet, and helps us if we hit over a gig through the APs or BHs. Our router is the RB1100 as well, so many ports to go around. Ty, I couldn't find the unofficial guide section, can you point me in the right direction, taking screenshots would work as well, thanks. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:18 PM TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: why use as a mid span and waste so many ports when you can trunk them all back to a single port right? is this because your exceeding 1gig? On Jul 6, 2015 4:14 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the VLAN config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums under the unofficial guide. -Ty On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: Hi all, Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily. The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this setup? Any help here would be appreciated. Josh
Re: [AFMUG] PTP800 software issue
Easy enough to go to Cambiumnetworks.com/support and setup an account and login to get what you need. On 7/6/2015 6:57 PM, Gilbert Gutierrez wrote: I have a radio set that I inherited through a company purchase that has a software issue (Rel. 800-06-01) that does not allow it to ping from outside networks. I was wondering if anyone out there has Rel. 800-06-02 software (release notes show that it resolves that ICMP issue) that they would be willing to share. This is an annoying issue but not enough of one to buy a new support contract so I can download it directly from Cambium's web site. I would put an older load on the radio that I had from my other PTP800 units, but for 2 reasons: 1. I am not sure how the radios handle a software downgrade, and 2. (more important reason) My PC with archived software releases on it had a hard drive failure without a backup 3 months ago. Thank you, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. --
Re: [AFMUG] CableOne
That's up to pricing? Will be interesting to see what speeds people are actually getting once they get loaded down. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hey, So the cable provider in my area just increased their speeds to 100Mbps. So now you can get 100Mbps cable internet for $33/month for the 1st year... then it goes up to $59/month for year two. I don't know of anyone with this package yet, but that's pretty impressive for the price. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN
Crap, how about you include the link, Ty... Dumbass... http://forum.netonix.com/viewtopic.php?f=17t=237 -Ty On Jul 6, 2015 8:39 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: Check here Josh. If you can't get it worked out I will help further. -Ty On Jul 6, 2015 7:50 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: We have an abundance of ports ATM, so using a simple VLAN seems to be our easiest bet, and helps us if we hit over a gig through the APs or BHs. Our router is the RB1100 as well, so many ports to go around. Ty, I couldn't find the unofficial guide section, can you point me in the right direction, taking screenshots would work as well, thanks. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:18 PM TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: why use as a mid span and waste so many ports when you can trunk them all back to a single port right? is this because your exceeding 1gig? On Jul 6, 2015 4:14 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the VLAN config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums under the unofficial guide. -Ty On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, Josh Corson j...@bluebitnetworks.com wrote: Hi all, Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily. The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this setup? Any help here would be appreciated. Josh
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
I did visit that museum, it is or was good one. Good history on radio, two way and how cell phone came about. Tushar On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Maybe Cambium will buy them back for the Cambium museum. (Motorola had a museum. Not sure what happened to it as Motorola split into a thousand pieces.) From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings The earliest FSK stuff I have is 0a-00-3e-f0's and f1's. Those are P9 5.7. 03 and 04, maybe P8's? Possibly even P7's. Could be 5.2 or 5.4GHz though. Still really old. You should take pictures. On 7/6/2015 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff So either FSK, 430 450 gear On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Sean Heskett javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on atower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
When I was at Cambium HQ a month or two ago, Tom pulled out the Altair's. Here, this is the size of your PC, but it's wireless! On 7/6/2015 8:06 PM, Tushar Patel wrote: I did visit that museum, it is or was good one. Good history on radio, two way and how cell phone came about. Tushar On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: Maybe Cambium will buy them back for the Cambium museum. (Motorola had a museum. Not sure what happened to it as Motorola split into a thousand pieces.) *From:* George Skorup mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 6:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings The earliest FSK stuff I have is 0a-00-3e-f0's and f1's. Those are P9 5.7. 03 and 04, maybe P8's? Possibly even P7's. Could be 5.2 or 5.4GHz though. Still really old. You should take pictures. On 7/6/2015 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff So either FSK, 430 450 gear On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Sean Heskett javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); *To: *javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address. [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] /interface bridge host print Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
[AFMUG] CableOne
Hey, So the cable provider in my area just increased their speeds to 100Mbps. So now you can get 100Mbps cable internet for $33/month for the 1st year... then it goes up to $59/month for year two. I don't know of anyone with this package yet, but that's pretty impressive for the price. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
Wow! What is that? Thanks, Ben On Jul 6, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has really been working on their carbon neutral packaging.. image001.jpg Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list ubnt_us...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
Can I buy those as a lot ? I will pay $0.10 on the dollar. ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org Cc: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 11:40:55 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging.. Wow! What is that? Thanks, Ben On Jul 6, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has really been working on their carbon neutral packaging.. image001.jpg Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list ubnt_us...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list ubnt_us...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
My suggestion would be to just wait it out. Let them build it and lose money. Eventually they will realize that they have no idea how to be an ISP, the customers will not deal with slow government response times to complaints, and the government will hate dealing with title II issues and open internet regulations. They will throw their hands up and offer it via bid or something else to a private company to manage/own/run. You might be able to pick it up for far less than it would have cost you to build. I certainly would not try to overbuild them before they get going. The average consumer has already heard about their promised prices, you will be fighting that even though they have not even started building yet. Do a search for the UC2B project in Illinois, it was a municipal/university system built with stimulus funds. They did what they needed to meet grant obligations, then they all argued among the partners about who and how they would run things and failed at that. They finally let a private company take over and expand the system. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 8:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Assuming you didn't have to recoup build costs, I don't see how it would be hard to run the network at $50 per sub. Bandwidth is dirt cheep at scale and there isn't much to go wrong with a fiber plant. On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Christopher Gray cg...@graytechsoftware.com wrote: About $40M is grant funding from the state for last mile services that is only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with property tax. I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining competitive, though. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Where is the funding coming from? I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over built. From: Christopher Gray mailto:cg...@graytechsoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber? Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service. Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit? Thanks - Chris
Re: [AFMUG] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..
Burn-in testing? On Monday, July 6, 2015, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Wow! What is that? Thanks, Ben On Jul 6, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com'); wrote: So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has really been working on their carbon neutral packaging.. image001.jpg *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com'); ___ Ubnt_users mailing list ubnt_us...@wispa.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ubnt_us...@wispa.org'); http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
In my case I had a clear view of the plate. I would suggest a 45 degree angle off to the side maybe 15 to 20 feet away. My issue was I had not customized the standard setting of the camera to increase the resolution so you could not make it out. I also learned that it is better to have a security light and not IR cameras. Everything looks grey in IR so you have no idea what the car or other important colors like hair, eyes, etc.. Silver looks just like white. All dark colors look black. All median colors look grey, all light colors look white, etc. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Problem with license plates at night is that the headlights wipe out the video. If you have night vision or IR and are lucky enough to get the rear of the vehicle you may have a chance. Would like a solution to this issue. *From:* Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:44 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras I recently had some vandalism at my shop. I reported it and pulled the recordings of the several cameras I had in the area. As a result, here is what I learned: 1. Place a hidden camera in very close proximity to where there is a high likelihood of the person staring directly into it from just a few feet away. (My camera was 12 feet and set on a lower resolution) 2. Place a camera in a location to capture a vehicle license plate. There is no magic face recognition software if you don't give them somewhere to start. 3. Check them regularly. Spider webs blowing in the breeze especially at night when the IR is on can trigger motion recordings, eat up space on the disk, and make it hard to find the event when required. We had an instance where these guys had painted the lens of the camera and then waited a few weeks counting on the recording being dropped by then. That would have worked had I not noticed it by chance. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015, 9:30 AM Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: The DVR should work great. I use their UniFi video software on a Windows box and it works well, and has a phone app. I like it a lot better than the video surveillance that I am using at home. I am planning to switch it all out for UniFi, and use my home server as the NVR. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Good to know. I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some cameras that I have. I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will not allow remote access so screw it. *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with them, for the price. I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they really only work for watching the road in. Plus, the current dome has a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I know this topic has been discussed here before. What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower? Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone approaching. I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a zoom at the tower box. We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it has happened. This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. Took batteries, cut power cables, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net -- Lewis Bergman 325-439-0533 Cell
[AFMUG] Tales from the Towers : Chapter 55 Posted
http://www.muniwireless.com/2015/07/06/which-way-did-he-go-george/ Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/ Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: [AFMUG] Unifi controller upgrade
SB 3.2.7...
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/6/2015 8:06 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
We're still on 3.27. Many of the upgrades I have tried on unifi have
been adventures in frustration. Not a big fan.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 7/5/2015 1:32 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'm running the unifi wireless controller v3.2.10 on CentOS 6. So I
did the config backup in the GUI, selected the everything option to
keep all of the stats. Stopped the controller. I then downloaded the
Unifi 4.6.6 unix zip release. Started the new controller. Opened the
GUI and restored the 3.2.10 backup. Restarted the controller. I get
the login page. Put in my old username and password. It doesn't say
invalid user or password, just reloads the login page. If I put in
obviously invalid credentials, it tells me the username or password
is invalid. So the existing user/pass seems to be validated, but it
refuses to let me log in. I rolled back to 3.2.10 (just a symlink
change) and everything works fine. At least v4 didn't attempt to
upgrade and re-provision the deployed APs.
Anybody else tried this? I really don't want to rebuild everything
from scratch. What am I missing?
Re: [AFMUG] weird BGP issue question
iBGP between the routers setup? That’s the first thing that comes to mind :) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org Subject: [AFMUG] weird BGP issue question I am working with a client right now on multi-homing their network. I have done multi-homing several times before and have never run into a situation like this. When we run a single Peer (receiving default route only) everything works fine. When we run both peers then there is a route propagation issue with some of the upstreams peers. The routes seem to come and go (Some sites have no problem others load sporadically). This client has their own IP Blocks. We have looked at multiple looking glass routers and do not see any issue. Internal network is OSPF . Routers are Mikrotik RB1100AHx2. All routes are advertising fine, all filters in place are correct. Anyone else seen an issue like this before? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 https://docs.google.com/a/northcentraltower.com/uc?id=0B12mNmVrr3-PbU1UMFk0OUFhOGsexport=download
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with them, for the price. I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they really only work for watching the road in. Plus, the current dome has a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I know this topic has been discussed here before. What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower? Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone approaching. I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a zoom at the tower box. We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it has happened. This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. Took batteries, cut power cables, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
Good to know. I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some cameras that I have. I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will not allow remote access so screw it. From: Jeremy Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with them, for the price. I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they really only work for watching the road in. Plus, the current dome has a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I know this topic has been discussed here before. What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower? Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone approaching. I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a zoom at the tower box. We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it has happened. This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. Took batteries, cut power cables, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
I recently had some vandalism at my shop. I reported it and pulled the recordings of the several cameras I had in the area. As a result, here is what I learned: 1. Place a hidden camera in very close proximity to where there is a high likelihood of the person staring directly into it from just a few feet away. (My camera was 12 feet and set on a lower resolution) 2. Place a camera in a location to capture a vehicle license plate. There is no magic face recognition software if you don't give them somewhere to start. 3. Check them regularly. Spider webs blowing in the breeze especially at night when the IR is on can trigger motion recordings, eat up space on the disk, and make it hard to find the event when required. We had an instance where these guys had painted the lens of the camera and then waited a few weeks counting on the recording being dropped by then. That would have worked had I not noticed it by chance. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015, 9:30 AM Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: The DVR should work great. I use their UniFi video software on a Windows box and it works well, and has a phone app. I like it a lot better than the video surveillance that I am using at home. I am planning to switch it all out for UniFi, and use my home server as the NVR. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Good to know. I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some cameras that I have. I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will not allow remote access so screw it. *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with them, for the price. I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they really only work for watching the road in. Plus, the current dome has a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles. On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I know this topic has been discussed here before. What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower? Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone approaching. I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a zoom at the tower box. We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it has happened. This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. Took batteries, cut power cables, etc. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Paul Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
