date:20160111

"Ok Sir, see if you can locate Steve's router and we'll have you unplug 
the power and plug it back in."


On 1/11/2016 5:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
"we" provide a router if they dont want to use their own. I guess we 
could call it their router, since they all assume they get to keep it 
or throw it away if they replace it with their own.


Maybe Ic an just talk the boss into making the techs buy the routers, 
then they can call them whatever they want


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Nate Burke > wrote:


"I" Bought the Router, "I" installed the Router, "I" Know where
the router is, and the customer is messing with "MY" router. The
only thing the company did was provide a few $$ during the initial
phase of it's lifecycle.ï¿½ Who's router is it?



On 1/11/2016 4:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and
powecycle it" In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a
direct communication between two individual parties, its the "my"
that irritates the shit out of me. I want to smack a motherfucker
and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no? Then its
not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".Â

Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate
that shit, like murderous hate.

Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that
does not take individual ownership of each support request, if it
were an email response, it would be a "We (the company) need you
to locate our router and power cycle it" Â At this point its not
an individual communication without ownership of the support request.

Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the
usage of I's and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and
worthlessness increases Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im
me, motherfucker)

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley
> wrote:

What's the context of the conversation?Â  I can't see myself
telling a customer "we think you need to power cycle your
router".


That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in
their brain whenever someone from the company uses I or
Me when communicating with customers on company related
issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you
fucking self absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who
actually own the company, you can refer to it as whatever
you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a
nervous tick day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you

don't see your team as part of yourself you have already
failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but youÂ don'tÂ see

your team as part of yourself you haveÂ already failed as part of
the team.





--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread Chuck McCown

Some folks do not understand power cycle or cycle.  

Turn it off, count to three, turn it back on.  

I remember the first time air traffic control told me to “recycle the 
transponder”.  Glad someone else in the cockpit knew what they were saying.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with customers

Why worry about ownership anyway.

Find THE router and power cycle it (optional fuckwit at the end).

bp

On 1/11/2016 2:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle it" In 
this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication between two 
individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of me. I want to 
smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no? 
Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".  

  Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that shit, 
like murderous hate.

  Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not take 
individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email response, it 
would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and power cycle it"  
At this point its not an individual communication without ownership of the 
support request.

  Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of I's 
and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness increases Ive 
discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)

  On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley  
wrote:

What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself telling a 
customer "we think you need to power cycle your router". 

That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain 
whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with 
customers on company related issues?

  We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self 
absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you can 
refer to it as whatever you want)

  Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day

  carry on

  -- 
  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] wow ... customer with old equipment

2016-01-11 Thread Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)


I figure maybe this will make that one guy Steve feel better about his life.

I just got off the phone with a customer who thought our network was getting 
too slow and that we needed to come upgrade his equipment (we already did 
that maybe 6 years ago when we replaced his smartBridges radio - from a WISP 
be bought out - with Canopy).


Turns out the Canopy SM is acting as his router, it reports 10HDX, and 
behind it he has a Boca Research 10BaseT "concentrator" (apparently a hub), 
and behind that he has a Linksys WAP54G.  And his wife brought home an 
Amazon Firestick.


We are actually in the process of replacing our 2.4 FSK in that area with 
3.56 PMP450,.


But do you think maybe the customer needs to upgrade his network first?

Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE issue / setting ?

This problem occurs direct from my laptops PPPoE connection and the routers.  

The cloud cores handle the connections.  

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net
 
Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Where is the PPPoE client, in the radio?  Or behind it?  What do you get with 
> the radio bridged and the PPPoE client set up directly in Network Connections 
> on your laptop?
>  
> Do you have any queues being set up via RADIUS reply attributes, like 
> Mikrotik-Rate-Limit?
>  
>  
> From: Mathew Howard
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 2:43 PM
> To: af
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE issue / setting ?
>  
> We were seeing a similar issue with ePMP - changing the queue type on the 
> Mikrotik to sfq fixed it... but if you're using an uncapped account, I don't 
> know that there is a queue. 
>  
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) 
>>  wrote:
>> Here's one that has me scratching my head:
>>  
>> Cambium 450 ap with virtually no one on it yet (maybe 10) with frame use 
>> under 5%. 1gb Poe
>>  
>> 40mb sm running 8/4.  If I flood the link I get 48/16 flooded
>>  
>> The best I am getting on my uncapped PPPoE test account is about 10-15mb!
>>  
>> From a 450 mt router I can hook up the Poe brick and do a Btest  back to the 
>> core.  Runs about 24-35 Mbps
>>  
>> Why the hell is my PPPoE so low ?
>>  
>> 
>> Tyson Burris, President 
>> Internet Communications Inc. 
>> 739 Commerce Dr. 
>> Franklin, IN 46131 
>>   
>> 317-738-0320 Daytime # 
>> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
>> Online: www.surfici.net
>>  
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] PR Towers..


Those indeed look like Western Electric or Andrew horn platforms.

On 1/11/2016 4:05 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:


So during my visit to Puerto Rico I think I saw most of the 
transmitter sites on the island. This particular tower stood out as 
the most epic tower on the island. My guess is it was designed to have 
a bunch of AT style long-line horn antennas installed in it that 
have since been removed.


*Peter Kranz
*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread Chuck McCown

Do you also get eye twitches?

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with customers

Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle it" In 
this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication between two 
individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of me. I want to 
smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no? 
Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".  

Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that shit, like 
murderous hate.

Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not take 
individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email response, it 
would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and power cycle it"  
At this point its not an individual communication without ownership of the 
support request.

Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of I's and 
me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness increases Ive 
discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley  wrote:

  What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself telling a 
customer "we think you need to power cycle your router". 

  That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain 
whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with 
customers on company related issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self 
absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you can 
refer to it as whatever you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

Guess we had more than that one. Found another one that we did for a PTP 
link between buildings for a customer and it's acting stupid too. CF 
ESN. The other side is a C8 and it works fine. Ethernet stops passing 
traffic, GUI doesn't display all items, etc. Same thing the other one 
was doing.


On 1/11/2016 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Looking through stock, this is the only radio I have with newer than 
CF ESNs. I think this was a Force110 kit we picked up from Baltic. I 
have a small stash of integrated 5GHz and connectorized radios and 
they're all and very small POPs.


On 1/11/2016 3:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask Sriram 
for it.


I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect a few 
more are still going to show up.


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke > wrote:


I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and
it acted up last night.How does one go about getting this new
magic firmware?

On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just
a standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots
under heavy uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how
many more do I have like this.

On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so
far have been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
Communications Inc  wrote:

What firmware you guys running?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
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*Online: *** *www.surfici.net*

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*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

From what I heard this morning I'm confident. And
surprised it can be fixed in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov"
 wrote:

That's promising...


Vlad


On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows
about it and they have a fix that they're testing.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov
 wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least
not in all cases. I'm looking at the output
of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected
radios, and it does look like it's crashing
hard. I don't see how it would be a
connector issue. Also, we have a few sites
with zero issues.. Same firmware and
everything.


Vlad



On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?

*Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131
*
*317-738-0320
 Daytime

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers


Why worry about ownership anyway.

Find THE router and power cycle it (optional fuckwit at the end).

bp


On 1/11/2016 2:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle 
it" In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication 
between two individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit 
out of me. I want to smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that 
router fuckwit? did you? no? Then its not yours, its the companys, you 
sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".


Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that 
shit, like murderous hate.


Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does 
not take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an 
email response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our 
router and power cycle it"  At this point its not an individual 
communication without ownership of the support request.


Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage 
of I's and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness 
increases Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:


What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself
telling a customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".


That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their
brain whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when
communicating with customers on company related issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking
self absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own
the company, you can refer to it as whatever you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a
nervous tick day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see

your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part
of the team.





--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

2016-01-11 Thread Mike Hammett

I wouldn't if I were you 

- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:04:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather 

I'll ask if I can share it. 

Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Nate Burke < n...@blastcomm.com > wrote: 

I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it acted up 
last night. How does one go about getting this new magic firmware? 

On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote: 

Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a standard 5GHz 
connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy uplink traffic in 
cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like this. 

On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: 

That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have been 
00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
wrote: 

2.6.1rc1 from Sri. 

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE) 

Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc < 
t...@franklinisp.net > wrote: 

What firmware you guys running? 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 

317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

ICI
What can ICI do for you? 

Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
addressee shown. It contains information that is 
confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, 
dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by 
unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
prohibited. 

From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather 

>From what I heard this morning I'm confident. And surprised it can be fixed in 
>software. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" < v...@atlasok.com > wrote: 

That's promising... 

Vlad 

On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: 

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have a fix 
that they're testing. 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov < v...@atlasok.com > wrote: 

I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking at the 
output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it does look like 
it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector issue. Also, we 
have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and everything. 

Vlad 

On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote: 

So is this a cable connector problem? 
Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 

317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers! 

On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird < joshba...@gmail.com > wrote: 

Yes. 

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov < v...@atlasok.com > wrote: 

Hey folks, 

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We seem to 
have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle of the night 
when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up for a day or 
so. 

peace 

Vlad 

No virus found in this message. 
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11377 - Release Date: 01/11/16

[AFMUG] OT: Pretty cool drone display

2016-01-11 Thread Jason McKemie

For those who haven't seen it:

https://youtu.be/mOBQXuu_5Zw

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

2016-01-11 Thread Peter Kranz

https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=472603

 

Cheaper.. but thinner as well..

 

Peter Kranz
  www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
  pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 1:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

 

Yes, tractor supply pen mats work great. 

 

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/rubber-mat-black-4-ft-x-6-ft

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof  > wrote:

Best autocorrect of the day.

 

 

From: Lewis Bergman   

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:25 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

 

We bought 100 foot rolls from tractor supply. I think they are used for animal 
poems or something. Cheapest we found for a heavy rubber pad.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016, 3:16 PM Josh Luthman  > wrote:

Where do you guys get your rubber mats?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 4:09 PM, "Peter Kranz"  > wrote:

I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually... I’ve 
seen plenty of examples where other company’s non-pen’s have eaten holes 
through rooftops.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com  
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100  
Mobile: 510-207-  
pkr...@unwiredltd.com  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

 

If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the bottom, will 
this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?  Are weld beads OK.

 

Do you always use rubber mats under them?

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle it"
In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication between
two individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of me. I
want to smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did
you? no? Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink
antifreeze".

Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that shit,
like murderous hate.

Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not
take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email
response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and
power cycle it"  At this point its not an individual communication without
ownership of the support request.

Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of I's
and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness increases
Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself telling a
> customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".
>
>
> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
>> Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain
>> whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with
>> customers on company related issues?
>>
>> We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self
>> absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you
>> can refer to it as whatever you want)
>>
>> Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day
>>
>> carry on
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

I could see calling it "their" router, even though it isn't actually
theirs, but it is theirs in the sense that it's theirs to use, and in their
house... but I agree, calling it "my" router is stupid and not acceptable.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "we" provide a router if they dont want to use their own. I guess we could
> call it their router, since they all assume they get to keep it or throw it
> away if they replace it with their own.
>
> Maybe Ic an just talk the boss into making the techs buy the routers, then
> they can call them whatever they want
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> "I" Bought the Router, "I" installed the Router, "I" Know where the
>> router is, and the customer is messing with "MY" router. The only thing the
>> company did was provide a few $$ during the initial phase of it's
>> lifecycle.ï¿½ Who's router is it?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 4:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle
>> it" In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication
>> between two individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of
>> me. I want to smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router
>> fuckwit? did you? no? Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch,
>> go drink antifreeze".Â
>>
>> Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that
>> shit, like murderous hate.
>>
>> Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not
>> take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email
>> response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and
>> power cycle it" Â At this point its not an individual communication without
>> ownership of the support request.
>>
>> Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of
>> I's and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness
>> increases Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What's the context of the conversation?Â  I can't see myself telling a
>>> customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".
>>>
>>>
>>> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain
 whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with
 customers on company related issues?

 We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self
 absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you
 can refer to it as whatever you want)

 Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick
 day

 carry on

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but youÂ don'tÂ see your
>> team as part of yourself you haveÂ already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Service in Bretzville, IN?

2016-01-11 Thread Justin Wilson

Not sure if NetSurf reaches down that far.  www.netsurfusa.net


Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Christopher Gray  
> wrote:
> 
> Looking for a service provider in Bretzville, IN. Feel free to contact me 
> off-list.
> 
> Thanks - Chris
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread Chuck McCown

I used to fly a Mooney Mite.  Wood and fabric.  They could never see me.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with customers

Oh. Approach control. I've had a lot of interesting conversations with those 
guys. Niner seven, your transponder image is intermittent.

That's because I'm flying my stealth aircraft, sir.

bp

On 1/11/2016 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Some folks do not understand power cycle or cycle.  

  Turn it off, count to three, turn it back on.  

  I remember the first time air traffic control told me to “recycle the 
transponder”.  Glad someone else in the cockpit knew what they were saying.  

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:52 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with customers

  Why worry about ownership anyway.

  Find THE router and power cycle it (optional fuckwit at the end).

bp

On 1/11/2016 2:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle it" 
In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication between two 
individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of me. I want to 
smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no? 
Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".  

Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that shit, 
like murderous hate.

Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not 
take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email 
response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and 
power cycle it"  At this point its not an individual communication without 
ownership of the support request.

Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of I's 
and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness increases Ive 
discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley  
wrote:

  What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself telling a 
customer "we think you need to power cycle your router". 

  That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain 
whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with 
customers on company related issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self 
absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you can 
refer to it as whatever you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick 
day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

Lewis phone is infamous for auto correcting with humor
On Jan 11, 2016 2:34 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

> Best autocorrect of the day.
>
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question
>
> We bought 100 foot rolls from tractor supply. I think they are used for
> animal poems or something. Cheapest we found for a heavy rubber pad.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016, 3:16 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Where do you guys get your rubber mats?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 11, 2016 4:09 PM, "Peter Kranz"  wrote:
>>
>>> I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually...
>>> I’ve seen plenty of examples where other company’s non-pen’s have eaten
>>> holes through rooftops.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-
>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the
>>> bottom, will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?
>>> Are weld beads OK.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you always use rubber mats under them?
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz

May I remind everyone that this is a public list, easily available via google 
search. 

Please mind you comments, language as you please or see fit ! 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 5:19:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

> Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle it" In
> this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication between two
> individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of me. I want to
> smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no?
> Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".
> Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that shit, 
> like
> murderous hate.

> Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not take
> individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email response, it
> would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and power cycle it"
> At this point its not an individual communication without ownership of the
> support request.

> Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of I's 
> and
> me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness increases Ive
> discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)

> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley < par...@cyberbroadband.net >
> wrote:

>> What's the context of the conversation? I can't see myself telling a customer
>> "we think you need to power cycle your router".

>> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

>>> Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain whenever
>>> someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with customers on
>>> company related issues?

>>> We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self absorbed
>>> gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you can refer 
>>> to
>>> it as whatever you want)

>>> Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day

>>> carry on

>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>>> part
>>> of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part
> of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

I don't think it's limited but rather included.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 11, 2016 7:50 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz"  wrote:

> So is it confirmed that we are only looking for the 00:04:56:CE mac?
>
> Has anyone found it used in any ePMP that is not a GPS AP?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandon Yuchasz
>
> GogebicRange.net
>
> www.gogebicrange.net
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyson @ Internet
> Communications Inc (ICI)
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:59 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather
>
>
>
> Thanks,  can you confirm this is definitely the Mac we need to be looking
> for ?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce
> Dr. Franklin, IN 46131  *
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Dan Sullivan <
> daniel.sulli...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>
> 00:04:56:CE
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

Thanks Dan!

Nate

On 1/11/2016 3:52 PM, Dan Sullivan wrote:

Hi Nate:

Here is the link:

goo.gl/4TpMif 

Daniel Sullivan

ePMP Software Manager

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:01 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it 
acted up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic 
firmware?

On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under
heavy uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more
do I have like this.

On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so
far have been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
Communications Inc > wrote:

What firmware you guys running?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net *

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*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And
surprised it can be fixed in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov"
> wrote:

That's promising...

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium
knows about it and they have a fix that
they're testing.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov
>
wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least
not in all cases. I'm looking at the
output of "debug crashlog" on one of the
affected radios, and it does look like
it's crashing hard. I don't see how it
would be a connector issue. Also, we have
a few sites with zero issues.. Same
firmware and everything.

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?

*Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131
*
*317-738-0320
 Daytime #*
*317-412-1540

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

"I" Bought the Router, "I" installed the Router, "I" Know where the 
router is, and the customer is messing with "MY" router. The only thing 
the company did was provide a few $$ during the initial phase of it's 
lifecycle.  Who's router is it?




On 1/11/2016 4:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle 
it" In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication 
between two individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit 
out of me. I want to smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that 
router fuckwit? did you? no? Then its not yours, its the companys, you 
sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".ï¿½


Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that 
shit, like murderous hate.


Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does 
not take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an 
email response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our 
router and power cycle it" ï¿½ At this point its not an individual 
communication without ownership of the support request.


Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage 
of I's and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness 
increases Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:


What's the context of the conversation?ï¿½  I can't see myself
telling a customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".


That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their
brain whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when
communicating with customers on company related issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking
self absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own
the company, you can refer to it as whatever you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a
nervous tick day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see

your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part
of the team.





--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but youï¿½ don'tï¿½ see your 
team as part of yourself you haveï¿½ already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] Service in Bretzville, IN?

2016-01-11 Thread Christopher Gray

Looking for a service provider in Bretzville, IN. Feel free to contact me
off-list.

Thanks - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

That's not the cold memory bug, I don't think.  That is some other bug that
may be resolved in 2.6, though...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Guess we had more than that one. Found another one that we did for a PTP
> link between buildings for a customer and it's acting stupid too. CF ESN.
> The other side is a C8 and it works fine. Ethernet stops passing traffic,
> GUI doesn't display all items, etc. Same thing the other one was doing.
>
> On 1/11/2016 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>
> Looking through stock, this is the only radio I have with newer than CF
> ESNs. I think this was a Force110 kit we picked up from Baltic. I have a
> small stash of integrated 5GHz and connectorized radios and they're all  ESNs. We don't use a whole lot of them, just some PTP and very small POPs.
>
> On 1/11/2016 3:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask Sriram for
> it.
>
> I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect a few more
> are still going to show up.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it acted
>> up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic firmware?
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>> Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
>> standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy
>> uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like
>> this.
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have
>> been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.
>>>
>>> I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>>> Inc < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>>>
 What firmware you guys running?



 *Tyson Burris, President*
 *Internet Communications Inc.*
 *739 Commerce Dr.*
 *Franklin, IN 46131*

 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online: * *
 www.surfici.net *



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 *From:* Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather



 From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be
 fixed in software.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" < 
 v...@atlasok.com> wrote:

 That's promising...


 Vlad


 On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

 No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have
 a fix that they're testing.



 On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov < 
 v...@atlasok.com> wrote:

 I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking
 at the output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it
 does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector
 issue. Also, we have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and
 everything.


 Vlad



 On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

 So is this a cable connector problem?





 *Tyson Burris, President  Internet Communications Inc.  739 Commerce
 Dr.  Franklin, IN 46131   *
 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online:  www.surfici.net
 *



 Forgive the

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

It's not on Dropbox.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 11, 2016 6:09 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> I wouldn't if I were you
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, January 11, 2016 3:04:50 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather
>
> I'll ask if I can share it.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it acted
>> up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic firmware?
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>> Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
>> standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy
>> uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like
>> this.
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have
>> been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.
>>>
>>> I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>>> Inc  wrote:
>>>
 What firmware you guys running?



 *Tyson Burris, President*
 *Internet Communications Inc.*
 *739 Commerce Dr.*
 *Franklin, IN 46131*

 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online: * *
 www.surfici.net *



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 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather



 From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be
 fixed in software.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" < 
 v...@atlasok.com> wrote:

 That's promising...


 Vlad


 On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

 No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have
 a fix that they're testing.



 On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov < 
 v...@atlasok.com> wrote:

 I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking
 at the output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it
 does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector
 issue. Also, we have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and
 everything.


 Vlad



 On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

 So is this a cable connector problem?





 *Tyson Burris, President  Internet Communications Inc.  739 Commerce
 Dr.  Franklin, IN 46131   *
 *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
 *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
 *Online:  www.surfici.net
 *



 Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


 On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird < 
 joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Yes.

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

2016-01-11 Thread Rory Conaway

We had raons bit no dangling cables.  Level 3 says no errors to the modem and 
we had a tech out already.  We are changing the 2011 to a 450 just to confirm 
before we eacalate further.



Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless

Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and abbreviations.


 Original message 
From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Date: 1/11/2016 10:38 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

If it just started and youre in an area hit by storms, some of the neighbors, 
mostly the empty houses with no tenants at this point, cable was busted down by 
tree limbs and is dangling terminated byt the mud now

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Glen Waldrop 
> wrote:
Likely an RF issue on the cable side.

I see this sort of thing with the company I consult for. They'll have me going 
through the router, trying to shut down the "virus" or peer to peer when it is 
thousands and thousands of retransmits and broken packets.

Just like our wireless it can have good quality until loaded, then watch the 
quality drop to nearly nothing and loose connection.



From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

The Netgear router has nothing to do with it, I was just using their website as 
an example of downloading a file.  It's computer, 2011, cable modem, the world. 
 I just can't download anything from any sites.  What's weird is they just drop.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

You mention Netgear, is this a Netgear router?  They used to have a problem 
with downloads stalling, but that was quite a few years ago.  The fix was to 
disable SPI Firewall.


From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

We have a cable circuit that can do everything except download.  There is a 
Mikrotik router between the computer and the cable modem.  Haven't tested 
taking the router out yet but we have tried 2 routers, same results.  
Basically, downloads either don't start or start and then just crash.  Game 
machines can't update, even downloading a 20MB file from netgear fails.  
Everything else seems to work.  Any ideas would be helpful.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"Life is full of unfair calls, missed plays, and bad catches.  But true 
baseball players keep on playing"  - Lessons from Baseball




--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

The domain is for sale:

http://www.myrouter.com/

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with customers

"we" provide a router if they dont want to use their own. I guess we could call 
it their router, since they all assume they get to keep it or throw it away if 
they replace it with their own.  

Maybe Ic an just talk the boss into making the techs buy the routers, then they 
can call them whatever they want

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

  "I" Bought the Router, "I" installed the Router, "I" Know where the router 
is, and the customer is messing with "MY" router. The only thing the company 
did was provide a few $$ during the initial phase of it's lifecycle.ï¿½ Who's 
router is it?

  On 1/11/2016 4:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle it" 
In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication between two 
individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of me. I want to 
smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no? 
Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".Â  

Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that shit, 
like murderous hate.

Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not 
take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email 
response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and 
power cycle it" Â At this point its not an individual communication without 
ownership of the support request.

Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of I's 
and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness increases Ive 
discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley  
wrote:

  What's the context of the conversation?Â  I can't see myself telling a 
customer "we think you need to power cycle your router". 

  That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain 
whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with 
customers on company related issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self 
absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you can 
refer to it as whatever you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick 
day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but youÂ don'tÂ see your team 
as part of yourself you haveÂ already failed as part of the team.

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

Depends on how you feel about (a) the customer, (b) your job, (c) the 
phase of the moon, or (and any combination of a, b, & c).


bp


On 1/11/2016 2:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Optional???


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Bill Prince > wrote:


Why worry about ownership anyway.

Find THE router and power cycle it (optional fuckwit at the end).

bp


On 1/11/2016 2:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and
powecycle it" In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a
direct communication between two individual parties, its the "my"
that irritates the shit out of me. I want to smack a motherfucker
and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no? Then its
not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".

Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate
that shit, like murderous hate.

Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that
does not take individual ownership of each support request, if it
were an email response, it would be a "We (the company) need you
to locate our router and power cycle it"  At this point its not
an individual communication without ownership of the support request.

Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the
usage of I's and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and
worthlessness increases Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im
me, motherfucker)

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley
> wrote:

What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself
telling a customer "we think you need to power cycle your
router".


That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in
their brain whenever someone from the company uses I or
Me when communicating with customers on company related
issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you
fucking self absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who
actually own the company, you can refer to it as whatever
you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a
nervous tick day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you

don't see your team as part of yourself you have already
failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see

your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

It was a recurring conversation between me and approach. The benefits of 
a glass airplane. Actually, I think they got the transponder, but the 
airplane was semi-invisible.


bp


On 1/11/2016 3:00 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I used to fly a Mooney Mite.  Wood and fabric.  They could never see me.
*From:* Bill Prince 
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:59 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with 
customers
Oh. Approach control. I've had a lot of interesting conversations with 
those guys. Niner seven, your transponder image is intermittent.


That's because I'm flying my stealth aircraft, sir.

bp


On 1/11/2016 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Some folks do not understand power cycle or cycle.
Turn it off, count to three, turn it back on.
I remember the first time air traffic control told me to “recycle the 
transponder”.  Glad someone else in the cockpit knew what they were 
saying.

*From:* Bill Prince 
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:52 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with 
customers

Why worry about ownership anyway.

Find THE router and power cycle it (optional fuckwit at the end).

bp


On 1/11/2016 2:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and 
powecycle it" In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct 
communication between two individual parties, its the "my" that 
irritates the shit out of me. I want to smack a motherfucker and say 
"did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no? Then its not yours, 
its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".
Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that 
shit, like murderous hate.
Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does 
not take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an 
email response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate 
our router and power cycle it"  At this point its not an individual 
communication without ownership of the support request.
Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage 
of I's and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and 
worthlessness increases Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im 
me, motherfucker)
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley 
 wrote:


What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself
telling a customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".


That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in
their brain whenever someone from the company uses I or Me
when communicating with customers on company related issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you
fucking self absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who
actually own the company, you can refer to it as whatever
you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a
nervous tick day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't

see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as
part of the team.




--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

2016-01-11 Thread Joe Novak

It would explain a lot. Every single one of our APs have CE in the mac. We
are just about through upgrading them all thankfully... seems to be working
so far.




On Jan 11, 2016 5:15 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> It's not on Dropbox.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 11, 2016 6:09 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't if I were you
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, January 11, 2016 3:04:50 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather
>>
>> I'll ask if I can share it.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>>> I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it
>>> acted up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic
>>> firmware?
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
>>> standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy
>>> uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like
>>> this.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have
>>> been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

 I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
 Communications Inc  wrote:

> What firmware you guys running?
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: * *
> www.surfici.net *
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones
> - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather
>
>
>
> From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be
> fixed in software.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" < 
> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>
> That's promising...
>
>
> Vlad
>
>
> On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have
> a fix that they're testing.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov < 
> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>
> I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm
> looking at the output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios,
> and it does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a
> connector issue. Also, we have a few sites with zero issues.. Same 
> firmware
> and everything.
>
>
> Vlad
>
>
>
> On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:
>
> So is this a cable connector problem?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President  Internet Communications Inc.  739 Commerce
> Dr.

Re: [AFMUG] PR Towers..

2016-01-11 Thread Hardy, Tim

Yep, old PRTC site.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 5:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PR Towers..

peter, you need to call me next time you are in town

that tower was built by the local ilec.  it sits atop of El Yunque peak.
Sent from Outlook Mobile

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:05 PM -0800, "Peter Kranz" 
> wrote:
So during my visit to Puerto Rico I think I saw most of the transmitter sites 
on the island. This particular tower stood out as the most epic tower on the 
island. My guess is it was designed to have a bunch of AT style long-line 
horn antennas installed in it that have since been removed.

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

So you put a pen mat under your non-pens?

From: Cameron Crum 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

Yes, tractor supply pen mats work great.  

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/rubber-mat-black-4-ft-x-6-ft

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  Best autocorrect of the day.

  From: Lewis Bergman 
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:25 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

  We bought 100 foot rolls from tractor supply. I think they are used for 
animal poems or something. Cheapest we found for a heavy rubber pad.

  On Mon, Jan 11, 2016, 3:16 PM Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Where do you guys get your rubber mats?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 4:09 PM, "Peter Kranz"  wrote:

  I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually... 
I’ve seen plenty of examples where other company’s non-pen’s have eaten holes 
through rooftops.

  Peter Kranz
  www.UnwiredLtd.com
  Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
  Mobile: 510-207-
  pkr...@unwiredltd.com

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

  If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the bottom, 
will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?  Are weld beads 
OK.

  Do you always use rubber mats under them?

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

2016-01-11 Thread Dan Sullivan

Hi Nate:

Here is the link:

goo.gl/4TpMif

Daniel Sullivan
ePMP Software Manager

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it acted up 
last night.How does one go about getting this new magic firmware?
On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a standard 5GHz 
connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy uplink traffic in 
cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like this.
On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have been 
00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
> wrote:
What firmware you guys running?

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

[ICI]
What can ICI do for you?

Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be fixed in 
software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" 
> wrote:
That's promising...

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have a fix 
that they're testing.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov 
> wrote:
I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking at the 
output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it does look like 
it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector issue. Also, we 
have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and everything.

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:
So is this a cable connector problem?
Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird 
> wrote:
Yes.

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov 
> wrote:
Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We seem to 
have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle of the night 
when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up for a day or 
so.

peace

Vlad

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Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

"we" provide a router if they dont want to use their own. I guess we could
call it their router, since they all assume they get to keep it or throw it
away if they replace it with their own.

Maybe Ic an just talk the boss into making the techs buy the routers, then
they can call them whatever they want

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> "I" Bought the Router, "I" installed the Router, "I" Know where the router
> is, and the customer is messing with "MY" router. The only thing the
> company did was provide a few $$ during the initial phase of it's
> lifecycle.ï¿½ Who's router is it?
>
>
>
> On 1/11/2016 4:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle it"
> In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication between
> two individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of me. I
> want to smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did
> you? no? Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink
> antifreeze".Â
>
> Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that shit,
> like murderous hate.
>
> Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not
> take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email
> response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and
> power cycle it" Â At this point its not an individual communication without
> ownership of the support request.
>
> Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of
> I's and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness
> increases Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
>
>> What's the context of the conversation?Â  I can't see myself telling a
>> customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".
>>
>>
>> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain
>>> whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with
>>> customers on company related issues?
>>>
>>> We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self
>>> absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you
>>> can refer to it as whatever you want)
>>>
>>> Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick
>>> day
>>>
>>> carry on
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but youÂ don'tÂ see your team
> as part of yourself you haveÂ already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread jay weekley

I know what you mean now.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle it"
> In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication between
> two individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of me. I
> want to smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did
> you? no? Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink
> antifreeze".
>
> Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that shit,
> like murderous hate.
>
> Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not
> take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email
> response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and
> power cycle it"  At this point its not an individual communication without
> ownership of the support request.
>
> Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of
> I's and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness
> increases Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
>
>> What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself telling a
>> customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".
>>
>>
>> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain
>>> whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with
>>> customers on company related issues?
>>>
>>> We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self
>>> absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you
>>> can refer to it as whatever you want)
>>>
>>> Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick
>>> day
>>>
>>> carry on
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] PR Towers..

2016-01-11 Thread Gino Villarini

peter, you need to call me next time you are in town
that tower was built by the local ilec.  it sits atop of El Yunque peak. 

Sent from Outlook Mobile




On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:05 PM -0800, "Peter Kranz"  
wrote:












So during my visit to Puerto Rico I think I saw most of the transmitter sites 
on the island. This particular tower stood out as the most epic tower on the 
island. My guess is it was designed to have a bunch of AT style long-line 
horn antennas installed in it that have since been removed. 

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

Oh. Approach control. I've had a lot of interesting conversations with 
those guys. Niner seven, your transponder image is intermittent.


That's because I'm flying my stealth aircraft, sir.

bp


On 1/11/2016 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Some folks do not understand power cycle or cycle.
Turn it off, count to three, turn it back on.
I remember the first time air traffic control told me to “recycle the 
transponder”.  Glad someone else in the cockpit knew what they were 
saying.

*From:* Bill Prince 
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:52 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with 
customers

Why worry about ownership anyway.

Find THE router and power cycle it (optional fuckwit at the end).

bp


On 1/11/2016 2:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and 
powecycle it" In this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct 
communication between two individual parties, its the "my" that 
irritates the shit out of me. I want to smack a motherfucker and say 
"did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no? Then its not yours, 
its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".
Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that 
shit, like murderous hate.
Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does 
not take individual ownership of each support request, if it were an 
email response, it would be a "We (the company) need you to locate 
our router and power cycle it"  At this point its not an individual 
communication without ownership of the support request.
Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage 
of I's and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness 
increases Ive discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:


What's the context of the conversation? I can't see myself
telling a customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".


That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their
brain whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when
communicating with customers on company related issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you
fucking self absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who
actually own the company, you can refer to it as whatever you
want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a
nervous tick day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't

see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as
part of the team.




--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

So you want me to reboot the box?  Or do you want me to unplug?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with customers

Why worry about ownership anyway.

Find THE router and power cycle it (optional fuckwit at the end).

bp

On 1/11/2016 2:19 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  Its more of an "Im going to need you to locate my router and powecycle it" In 
this case, the first I is copacetic, its a direct communication between two 
individual parties, its the "my" that irritates the shit out of me. I want to 
smack a motherfucker and say "did you buy that router fuckwit? did you? no? 
Then its not yours, its the companys, you sumbitch, go drink antifreeze".  

  Constant injections of self when representing an entity, I hate that shit, 
like murderous hate.

  Now the above, has it been sent to a general support desk that does not take 
individual ownership of each support request, if it were an email response, it 
would be a "We (the company) need you to locate our router and power cycle it"  
At this point its not an individual communication without ownership of the 
support request.

  Self centered goat fuckers are constant self interjectors, the usage of I's 
and me's goes up as the level of fuckwittery and worthlessness increases Ive 
discovered (I can use that I cause Im me, motherfucker)

  On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jay Weekley  
wrote:

What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself telling a 
customer "we think you need to power cycle your router". 

That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain 
whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with 
customers on company related issues?

  We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self 
absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you can 
refer to it as whatever you want)

  Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day

  carry on

  -- 
  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

2016-01-11 Thread Brandon Yuchasz

So is it confirmed that we are only looking for the 00:04:56:CE mac? 

Has anyone found it used in any ePMP that is not a GPS AP?

 

 

 

Best regards,

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson @ Internet 
Communications Inc (ICI)
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

 

Thanks,  can you confirm this is definitely the Mac we need to be looking for ?

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr.   
Franklin, IN 46131   
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online:  
 
www.surfici.net

 

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Jan 11, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Dan Sullivan  
wrote:

00:04:56:CE

Re: [AFMUG] PR Towers..

2016-01-11 Thread Sean Heskett

Oh bejebus that's a frickin erector set from hell :-/

lol

On Monday, January 11, 2016, Peter Kranz  wrote:

> So during my visit to Puerto Rico I think I saw most of the transmitter
> sites on the island. This particular tower stood out as the most epic tower
> on the island. My guess is it was designed to have a bunch of AT style
> long-line horn antennas installed in it that have since been removed.
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
> 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PR Towers..


I wonder if it needs all that structure to be hurricane proof.

Seems like it's very wide relative to the height.

On 1/11/2016 5:05 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:


So during my visit to Puerto Rico I think I saw most of the 
transmitter sites on the island. This particular tower stood out as 
the most epic tower on the island. My guess is it was designed to have 
a bunch of AT style long-line horn antennas installed in it that 
have since been removed.


*Peter Kranz
*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

I've been watching all of our APs for problems, regardless of what the MACs
are... So far, I haven't found any that weren't CE MACs.
On Jan 11, 2016 7:14 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> I don't think it's limited but rather included.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 11, 2016 7:50 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz"  wrote:
>
>> So is it confirmed that we are only looking for the 00:04:56:CE mac?
>>
>> Has anyone found it used in any ePMP that is not a GPS AP?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Brandon Yuchasz
>>
>> GogebicRange.net
>>
>> www.gogebicrange.net
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tyson @ Internet
>> Communications Inc (ICI)
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:59 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,  can you confirm this is definitely the Mac we need to be looking
>> for ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce
>> Dr. Franklin, IN 46131  *
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>
>>
>>
>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Dan Sullivan <
>> daniel.sulli...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> 00:04:56:CE
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] website design feedback - please check!

2016-01-11 Thread Josh Reynolds

Yes, and have since the 90s.
On Jan 10, 2016 8:31 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Do you say FAQ as a word like NASA?  Sounds vulgar.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 10, 2016 9:16 PM, "Simon Westlake"  wrote:
>
>> Crazy. It's a whole new world down there.
>>
>> On 1/10/2016 8:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> F A Q.
>>
>> NASA.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 10, 2016 9:11 PM, "Simon Westlake" 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> The dictionary definition of an initialism is an abbreviation you'd
>>> pronounce the individual letters off, which wouldn't be the case for me
>>> pronouncing either 'FAQ' or 'NASA', but I am not sure how they pronounce
>>> these things in Ohio ;)
>>>
>>> On 1/10/2016 8:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> FAQ is an initialism.  NASA is an acronym.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jan 10, 2016 9:05 PM, "Simon Westlake" 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 No, background doesn't show up for me. The few things I noticed
 clicking around:

 The quantity of symbols on the front page seems excessive. Things like
 'Awesome' and 'Simple' are overkill IMO, it detracts from the rest of the
 messaging because they're pretty vague.
 Some grammatical errors too like 'We are Provide Top Notch Support.'
 Same with the 'We are local' one. Some spelling mistakes in the 'What is
 Gigabit1' section on front page too (e.g. effectivly should be effectively,
 'bulding' on 'For Home' section should be 'Building')
 Faq should be FAQ (it's an acronym)
 Video on front page obviously needs replacing :)

 Otherwise, looks good to me.

 On 1/10/2016 7:54 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

 Loads up but background does not showalso check specially versus
 especially with word smiths on list.
 On Jan 10, 2016 6:40 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

> hi guys! spent most of the weekend doing a website for our new mdu
> project
>
> please check it out! feedback appreciated!
>
> its currently being hosted on a test site:
>
> http://gigabit1.x10host.com/
>
> please let me know if a background image is being loaded in the faq
> page... its not loading for me!
>

 --
 Simon Westlake
 Skype: Simon_Sonar
 Email: simon@sonar.software
 Phone: (702) 447-1247
 ---
 Sonar Software Inc
 The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software


>>> --
>>> Simon Westlake
>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>>> ---
>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>
>>

[AFMUG] PTP 800 upgrade key 100 mbit to full

2016-01-11 Thread Daniel Gerlach

where can i buy cheap?

thx
Dnaiel

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

2016-01-11 Thread Rory Conaway

Nailed the problem down to the Mikrotik router having a problem with DNS 
caching whether it's Cox or Google.  Not sure where to go from there since the 
other 12 don't have a problem.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

We had raons bit no dangling cables.  Level 3 says no errors to the modem and 
we had a tech out already.  We are changing the 2011 to a 450 just to confirm 
before we eacalate further.

Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless

Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and abbreviations.

 Original message 
From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
>
Date: 1/11/2016 10:38 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

If it just started and youre in an area hit by storms, some of the neighbors, 
mostly the empty houses with no tenants at this point, cable was busted down by 
tree limbs and is dangling terminated byt the mud now

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Glen Waldrop 
> wrote:
Likely an RF issue on the cable side.

I see this sort of thing with the company I consult for. They'll have me going 
through the router, trying to shut down the "virus" or peer to peer when it is 
thousands and thousands of retransmits and broken packets.

Just like our wireless it can have good quality until loaded, then watch the 
quality drop to nearly nothing and loose connection.

From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

The Netgear router has nothing to do with it, I was just using their website as 
an example of downloading a file.  It's computer, 2011, cable modem, the world. 
 I just can't download anything from any sites.  What's weird is they just drop.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

You mention Netgear, is this a Netgear router?  They used to have a problem 
with downloads stalling, but that was quite a few years ago.  The fix was to 
disable SPI Firewall.

From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

We have a cable circuit that can do everything except download.  There is a 
Mikrotik router between the computer and the cable modem.  Haven't tested 
taking the router out yet but we have tried 2 routers, same results.  
Basically, downloads either don't start or start and then just crash.  Game 
machines can't update, even downloading a 20MB file from netgear fails.  
Everything else seems to work.  Any ideas would be helpful.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"Life is full of unfair calls, missed plays, and bad catches.  But true 
baseball players keep on playing"  - Lessons from Baseball

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] I would like to be the first to say....

2016-01-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

Roll tide !

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Jay Weekley" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] I would like to be the first to say
Date: Mon, Jan 11, 2016 11:12 PM

Roll Tide Roll

-- 

Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

[AFMUG] Power system for Juniper MX960 Chassis

2016-01-11 Thread Josh Reynolds

Hola mi amigos,

I have a couple of issues I was wondering if somebody could help me with.

I have a couple of beasts... Juniper MX960s to be exact. I need to
power these bad boys with an appropriate power solution with backup
power + generator at our NOC, along with other gear (Calix E7-2,
several VM hosts, Juniper EX4500, etc). The datacenter side where the
edge router is has been taken care of (or will be) by the power system
there, but designing a power system for the other one at our NOC is
going to take some pretty beefy stuff.

Each Juniper MX960 will come with the High Capacity power supplies,
with each power supply having 2 power cables. Each power cable needs
it's own 200-240V, 15A circuit, so 4 of these connections at our NOC
(two on each power supply). Each power supply feed handles 1700W,
although Juniper for some reason says 1700W + 1700W = 4100W per
supply... IDK, that's what it says numerous times. So 8200W (max) per
chassis in this configuration, which is 4 individual 15A circuits.
Obviously our system will use less than that because of a somewhat
minimal amount of cards installed - without adding up each card (which
I will do later), I'm going to guess we'd be maybe pushing ~3500W max.

>From a generator and UPS system perspective, do you have any gear /
vendor you would use to power such a beast in a cost conscious manner?

Final note: "Maximum AC inrush current 76 A (38 A per feed at 264 VAC)"

Thanks guys.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

OK but... I'd think it's more than a coincidence that I'm having strange 
lockup/reboot issues with these radios since they're 00:04:56:CE+ MACs. 
And only those radios. These are just regular/non-GPS 5GHz 
connectorized. And they're the newest ones we've bought. So, I'm gonna 
go with.. yeah.


We swapped the first one a couple weeks ago with a C6 ESN. I could start 
a MT TCP bandwidth test and it would crash within 5 seconds of starting 
the upload test. Same cable, RJ45s, injector, etc. and the replacement 
works fine. When we first discovered the problem, the uptime was several 
hours and none of the GUI stats would load and it was just acting funny. 
I was sitting there watching it and the customer would start a Facebook 
or Google Drive or something upload and it would crash. That's when I 
started debugging with the MT bandwidth test.


This second one is now over an hour away so we're just going to head 
there with a complete spare 110 kit with a C8 ESN radio. I can't risk 
loading a beta firmware remotely.


On 1/11/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
That's not the cold memory bug, I don't think. That is some other bug 
that may be resolved in 2.6, though...



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, George Skorup > wrote:


Guess we had more than that one. Found another one that we did for
a PTP link between buildings for a customer and it's acting stupid
too. CF ESN. The other side is a C8 and it works fine. Ethernet
stops passing traffic, GUI doesn't display all items, etc. Same
thing the other one was doing.

On 1/11/2016 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Looking through stock, this is the only radio I have with newer
than CF ESNs. I think this was a Force110 kit we picked up from
Baltic. I have a small stash of integrated 5GHz and connectorized
radios and they're all 
I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask
Sriram for it.

I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect
a few more are still going to show up.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke > wrote:

I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE,
and it acted up last night.How does one go about getting
this new magic firmware?

On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF.
Just a standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It
reboots under heavy uplink traffic in cold weather.
Awesome. Now how many more do I have like this.

On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on
so far have been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @
Internet Communications Inc > wrote:

What firmware you guys running?

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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

That sounds like the same problem I just found on an SM with a D0 MAC, it
would crash within a few seconds of starting a bandwidth test to the
Mikrotik behind it. After I sent the crashlog to Cambium and got
confirmation that it was memory related, I loaded the magic firmware, and
it seems to be stable now.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:55 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> OK but... I'd think it's more than a coincidence that I'm having strange
> lockup/reboot issues with these radios since they're 00:04:56:CE+ MACs. And
> only those radios. These are just regular/non-GPS 5GHz connectorized. And
> they're the newest ones we've bought. So, I'm gonna go with.. yeah.
>
> We swapped the first one a couple weeks ago with a C6 ESN. I could start a
> MT TCP bandwidth test and it would crash within 5 seconds of starting the
> upload test. Same cable, RJ45s, injector, etc. and the replacement works
> fine. When we first discovered the problem, the uptime was several hours
> and none of the GUI stats would load and it was just acting funny. I was
> sitting there watching it and the customer would start a Facebook or Google
> Drive or something upload and it would crash. That's when I started
> debugging with the MT bandwidth test.
>
> This second one is now over an hour away so we're just going to head there
> with a complete spare 110 kit with a C8 ESN radio. I can't risk loading a
> beta firmware remotely.
>
> On 1/11/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> That's not the cold memory bug, I don't think.  That is some other bug
> that may be resolved in 2.6, though...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> Guess we had more than that one. Found another one that we did for a PTP
>> link between buildings for a customer and it's acting stupid too. CF ESN.
>> The other side is a C8 and it works fine. Ethernet stops passing traffic,
>> GUI doesn't display all items, etc. Same thing the other one was doing.
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>> Looking through stock, this is the only radio I have with newer than CF
>> ESNs. I think this was a Force110 kit we picked up from Baltic. I have a
>> small stash of integrated 5GHz and connectorized radios and they're all > ESNs. We don't use a whole lot of them, just some PTP and very small POPs.
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 3:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask Sriram for
>> it.
>>
>> I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect a few
>> more are still going to show up.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke < 
>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it
>>> acted up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic
>>> firmware?
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
>>> standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy
>>> uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like
>>> this.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have
>>> been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

 I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
 Communications Inc < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> What firmware you guys running?
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: * *
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>
>
>
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] +48VDC to 24VDC

2016-01-11 Thread Scott Vander Dussen

Josh-
That’s cool, do you have a link to that product or name or anything?  I’ve 
searched around but just keep finding plug/receptacle power entry blocks, not 
that screw terminal type.  TIA!

`S

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 07:16
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] +48VDC to 24VDC

You could do something like this.  The model pictured is a 1036.

On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Ken Hohhof 
> wrote:
Looks like I remembered wrong, 125 watts, $3050.
http://routerboard.com/CCR1072-1G-8Splus

From: Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 10:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] +48VDC to 24VDC

Close, it's the 256 core version is 72W, $895 MSRP.

Thanks,
`S

---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

On Jan 2, 2016, at 16:59, Ken Hohhof > 
wrote:
The 72 core version is something like 250 watts, isn’t it?

From: Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 6:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] +48VDC to 24VDC

Well, it doesn't have PoE in, but I also don't have a PoE device there, it's 
just the CCR1016-12S-1S+ by itself.  But you're right, even 802.11at or PoE+ 
only supports 30W. This must he why MT does not support PoE-in on the 
higher-end CCRs.
Thanks,
'S

Sent mobile!

On Jan 2, 2016, at 16:47, Ken Hohhof > 
wrote:
Max power consumption 44 watts, so I guess you could power it via POE, but it 
would have to be a high power POE.

From: Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2016 6:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] +48VDC to 24VDC

No copper ports, all SFP.  :/

Instead of including a "free" copper transceiver I'd prefer one of the ports as 
PoE-in copper like most of their other products.

Thanks,
`S

---
Sent mobile, typed by thumbs.

On Jan 2, 2016, at 16:27, TJ Trout > 
wrote:
feed it poe

On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 4:22 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
Oh look, a new product! And MikroTik still didn't listen. Seriously, how f'n 
hard is it to listen to your customers for one, and two, at least make it easy 
to run these things straight off of DC.

I have a 1016-12S-1S+ for a fiber project. It's pretty nice with the redundant 
power supplies. And if this project called for a DC plant, I'd be using 
something else.

Anyway, I'm sure you could rip the AC-DC power supplies out and wire it up how 
you want. Or drill a couple holes and put some of those banana plug terminal 
things in I suppose. Too much work for me.
On 1/2/2016 5:40 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:

With a +48vdc power source would it make sense to power a 
CCR1016-12S-1S+ by opening the case, 
bypassing the AC power supplies, and connecting a TRACO Power TCL 
060-124
 directly to the routerboard?  Is there an easier more efficient way?  Trying 
to avoid using AC at all, thanks.

[AFMUG] Your favorite LFNC

2016-01-11 Thread Scott Vander Dussen

For encasing fiber leads outdoors, do you just buy the cheap stuff from the big 
box stores or something special like Thomas and Betts online?

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

hmm... I hadn't thought about it before, but we had an SM acting up last
week... it was a D0 MAC, replaced it with a CD and the problem went away...
but we did also replace the RJ45s, so who knows. I guess I should do some
testing on that one.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:55 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> OK but... I'd think it's more than a coincidence that I'm having strange
> lockup/reboot issues with these radios since they're 00:04:56:CE+ MACs. And
> only those radios. These are just regular/non-GPS 5GHz connectorized. And
> they're the newest ones we've bought. So, I'm gonna go with.. yeah.
>
> We swapped the first one a couple weeks ago with a C6 ESN. I could start a
> MT TCP bandwidth test and it would crash within 5 seconds of starting the
> upload test. Same cable, RJ45s, injector, etc. and the replacement works
> fine. When we first discovered the problem, the uptime was several hours
> and none of the GUI stats would load and it was just acting funny. I was
> sitting there watching it and the customer would start a Facebook or Google
> Drive or something upload and it would crash. That's when I started
> debugging with the MT bandwidth test.
>
> This second one is now over an hour away so we're just going to head there
> with a complete spare 110 kit with a C8 ESN radio. I can't risk loading a
> beta firmware remotely.
>
> On 1/11/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> That's not the cold memory bug, I don't think.  That is some other bug
> that may be resolved in 2.6, though...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> Guess we had more than that one. Found another one that we did for a PTP
>> link between buildings for a customer and it's acting stupid too. CF ESN.
>> The other side is a C8 and it works fine. Ethernet stops passing traffic,
>> GUI doesn't display all items, etc. Same thing the other one was doing.
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>
>> Looking through stock, this is the only radio I have with newer than CF
>> ESNs. I think this was a Force110 kit we picked up from Baltic. I have a
>> small stash of integrated 5GHz and connectorized radios and they're all > ESNs. We don't use a whole lot of them, just some PTP and very small POPs.
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 3:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask Sriram for
>> it.
>>
>> I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect a few
>> more are still going to show up.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke < 
>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it
>>> acted up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic
>>> firmware?
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
>>> standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy
>>> uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like
>>> this.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have
>>> been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

 I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
 Communications Inc < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> What firmware you guys running?
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.*
> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: * *
> www.surfici.net *
>
>
>
> [image: ICI]
>
> *What can ICI do for you?*
>
>
> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones
> - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>
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> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
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> *prohibited.*
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
> *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

Awesome. I hope it fixes these two I have. And how ever many more I end 
up finding that I didn't know about.

On 1/11/2016 9:17 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
That sounds like the same problem I just found on an SM with a D0 MAC, 
it would crash within a few seconds of starting a bandwidth test to 
the Mikrotik behind it. After I sent the crashlog to Cambium and got 
confirmation that it was memory related, I loaded the magic firmware, 
and it seems to be stable now.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:55 PM, George Skorup > wrote:

OK but... I'd think it's more than a coincidence that I'm having
strange lockup/reboot issues with these radios since they're
00:04:56:CE+ MACs. And only those radios. These are just
regular/non-GPS 5GHz connectorized. And they're the newest ones
we've bought. So, I'm gonna go with.. yeah.

We swapped the first one a couple weeks ago with a C6 ESN. I could
start a MT TCP bandwidth test and it would crash within 5 seconds
of starting the upload test. Same cable, RJ45s, injector, etc. and
the replacement works fine. When we first discovered the problem,
the uptime was several hours and none of the GUI stats would load
and it was just acting funny. I was sitting there watching it and
the customer would start a Facebook or Google Drive or something
upload and it would crash. That's when I started debugging with
the MT bandwidth test.

This second one is now over an hour away so we're just going to
head there with a complete spare 110 kit with a C8 ESN radio. I
can't risk loading a beta firmware remotely.

On 1/11/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

That's not the cold memory bug, I don't think.  That is some
other bug that may be resolved in 2.6, though...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, George Skorup > wrote:

Guess we had more than that one. Found another one that we
did for a PTP link between buildings for a customer and it's
acting stupid too. CF ESN. The other side is a C8 and it
works fine. Ethernet stops passing traffic, GUI doesn't
display all items, etc. Same thing the other one was doing.

On 1/11/2016 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Looking through stock, this is the only radio I have with
newer than CF ESNs. I think this was a Force110 kit we
picked up from Baltic. I have a small stash of integrated
5GHz and connectorized radios and they're all 
I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise,
ask Sriram for it.

I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I
suspect a few more are still going to show up.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke
> wrote:

I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with
00:04:56:CE, and it acted up last night.How does
one go about getting this new magic firmware?

On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Well, that explains the problem I have with a
00:04:56:CF. Just a standard 5GHz connectorized radio
used as an SM. It reboots under heavy uplink traffic
in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have
like this.

On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen
it on so far have been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them
(000456 CE)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @
Internet Communications Inc > wrote:

What firmware you guys running?

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**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

We have a couple of APs with CE MACs that don't have any customers on them
yet, and I noticed that none of those have rebooted... we also have a
couple with customers that no problems have shown up on yet... it seems to
me that they either aren't all affected, or some are just not as sensitive
as others.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Joe Novak  wrote:

> I had a customer that could crash his radio on demand by firing up Amazon
> prime and watching any video. Netflix would take 10 or so minutes to crash
> his radio. Only when he used his Xbox one. You could take all the laptops
> in his house and watch a youtube video, and turn on a netflix stream - the
> only thing that crashed it was his Xbox One.
>
> I have both of his CPEs set aside to test this firmware on.. it got very
> bad when it got cold. We put up a 110 PTP (AP lite, whatever) that had a CE
> mac.. and it has not rebooted yet.. I don't know what to make of it.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> hmm... I hadn't thought about it before, but we had an SM acting up last
>> week... it was a D0 MAC, replaced it with a CD and the problem went away...
>> but we did also replace the RJ45s, so who knows. I guess I should do some
>> testing on that one.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:55 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> OK but... I'd think it's more than a coincidence that I'm having strange
>>> lockup/reboot issues with these radios since they're 00:04:56:CE+ MACs. And
>>> only those radios. These are just regular/non-GPS 5GHz connectorized. And
>>> they're the newest ones we've bought. So, I'm gonna go with.. yeah.
>>>
>>> We swapped the first one a couple weeks ago with a C6 ESN. I could start
>>> a MT TCP bandwidth test and it would crash within 5 seconds of starting the
>>> upload test. Same cable, RJ45s, injector, etc. and the replacement works
>>> fine. When we first discovered the problem, the uptime was several hours
>>> and none of the GUI stats would load and it was just acting funny. I was
>>> sitting there watching it and the customer would start a Facebook or Google
>>> Drive or something upload and it would crash. That's when I started
>>> debugging with the MT bandwidth test.
>>>
>>> This second one is now over an hour away so we're just going to head
>>> there with a complete spare 110 kit with a C8 ESN radio. I can't risk
>>> loading a beta firmware remotely.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> That's not the cold memory bug, I don't think.  That is some other bug
>>> that may be resolved in 2.6, though...
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Guess we had more than that one. Found another one that we did for a
 PTP link between buildings for a customer and it's acting stupid too. CF
 ESN. The other side is a C8 and it works fine. Ethernet stops passing
 traffic, GUI doesn't display all items, etc. Same thing the other one was
 doing.

 On 1/11/2016 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:

 Looking through stock, this is the only radio I have with newer than CF
 ESNs. I think this was a Force110 kit we picked up from Baltic. I have a
 small stash of integrated 5GHz and connectorized radios and they're all >>> ESNs. We don't use a whole lot of them, just some PTP and very small POPs.

 On 1/11/2016 3:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

 I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask Sriram
 for it.

 I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect a few
 more are still going to show up.

 On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke < 
 n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it
> acted up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic
> firmware?
>
> On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>
> Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
> standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy
> uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like
> this.
>
> On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have
> been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.
>>
>> I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link

2016-01-11 Thread Craig House

Nice What size dishes 

- Original Message -

From: "Chris Fabien"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:34:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link 

I have one at 26.2 miles, 20mhz channel, does about 65 megs either way in 
flexible mode. 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:10 PM, George Skorup < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote: 

I have a 13.8 mile ePTP link in 5.1 on a 20MHz channel currently. It does about 
81x65Mbps. I need to get it moved to a 40MHz channel to squeeze some more 
throughput out of it until spring and we most likely do licensed. 

It replaced a Rocket that would do only about 60x45 in a 20MHz channel. A 40MHz 
channel didn't do any better. So I hope the ePMP does better on 40MHz. 

BTW, the RF Elements easy brackets allowed the ePMP radios to hang onto the 
RocketDishes. Really nice. 

On 1/11/2016 7:54 PM, Craig House wrote: 

Anyone using EPMP for PTP links at 10 miles or more? What are the results and 
throughput on them. What kind of throughput in a 40mhz channel? 
I have one in use at 4 miles or so that has great signal on the force dish 
doing 88/77 MB Flawless but I would like to know if your running them at all in 
40mhz wide and what is the throughput? 

Craig

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link

2016-01-11 Thread Chris Fabien

I have one at 26.2 miles, 20mhz channel, does about 65 megs either way in
flexible mode.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:10 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> I have a 13.8 mile ePTP link in 5.1 on a 20MHz channel currently. It does
> about 81x65Mbps. I need to get it moved to a 40MHz channel to squeeze some
> more throughput out of it until spring and we most likely do licensed.
>
> It replaced a Rocket that would do only about 60x45 in a 20MHz channel. A
> 40MHz channel didn't do any better. So I hope the ePMP does better on 40MHz.
>
> BTW, the RF Elements easy brackets allowed the ePMP radios to hang onto
> the RocketDishes. Really nice.
>
>
> On 1/11/2016 7:54 PM, Craig House wrote:
>
>> Anyone using EPMP for PTP links at 10 miles or  more?  What are the
>> results and throughput on them.  What kind of throughput in a 40mhz channel?
>> I have one in use at 4 miles or so that has great signal on the force
>> dish doing 88/77 MB   Flawless but I would like to know if your running
>> them at all in 40mhz wide and what is the throughput?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] I would like to be the first to say....

2016-01-11 Thread Jay Weekley

Roll Tide Roll
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link

2016-01-11 Thread Stefan Englhardt

Try AF5X. These squeeze most out of small channels. They do 10,20,30,40,50 MHZ 
Channels.

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: George Skorup  
Datum: 12.01.2016  03:10  (GMT+01:00) 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link 

I have a 13.8 mile ePTP link in 5.1 on a 20MHz channel currently. It does about 
81x65Mbps. I need to get it moved to a 40MHz channel to squeeze some more 
throughput out of it until spring and we most likely do licensed.

It replaced a Rocket that would do only about 60x45 in a 20MHz channel. A 40MHz 
channel didn't do any better. So I hope the ePMP does better on 40MHz.

BTW, the RF Elements easy brackets allowed the ePMP radios to hang onto the 
RocketDishes. Really nice.

On 1/11/2016 7:54 PM, Craig House wrote:
> Anyone using EPMP for PTP links at 10 miles or  more?  What are the results 
> and throughput on them.  What kind of throughput in a 40mhz channel?
> I have one in use at 4 miles or so that has great signal on the force dish 
> doing 88/77 MB   Flawless but I would like to know if your running them at 
> all in 40mhz wide and what is the throughput?
>
> Craig

[AFMUG] EPMP BH link

2016-01-11 Thread Craig House

Anyone using EPMP for PTP links at 10 miles or  more?  What are the results and 
throughput on them.  What kind of throughput in a 40mhz channel?
I have one in use at 4 miles or so that has great signal on the force dish 
doing 88/77 MB   Flawless but I would like to know if your running them at all 
in 40mhz wide and what is the throughput?

Craig

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

2016-01-11 Thread Joe Novak

I had a customer that could crash his radio on demand by firing up Amazon
prime and watching any video. Netflix would take 10 or so minutes to crash
his radio. Only when he used his Xbox one. You could take all the laptops
in his house and watch a youtube video, and turn on a netflix stream - the
only thing that crashed it was his Xbox One.

I have both of his CPEs set aside to test this firmware on.. it got very
bad when it got cold. We put up a 110 PTP (AP lite, whatever) that had a CE
mac.. and it has not rebooted yet.. I don't know what to make of it.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> hmm... I hadn't thought about it before, but we had an SM acting up last
> week... it was a D0 MAC, replaced it with a CD and the problem went away...
> but we did also replace the RJ45s, so who knows. I guess I should do some
> testing on that one.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:55 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> OK but... I'd think it's more than a coincidence that I'm having strange
>> lockup/reboot issues with these radios since they're 00:04:56:CE+ MACs. And
>> only those radios. These are just regular/non-GPS 5GHz connectorized. And
>> they're the newest ones we've bought. So, I'm gonna go with.. yeah.
>>
>> We swapped the first one a couple weeks ago with a C6 ESN. I could start
>> a MT TCP bandwidth test and it would crash within 5 seconds of starting the
>> upload test. Same cable, RJ45s, injector, etc. and the replacement works
>> fine. When we first discovered the problem, the uptime was several hours
>> and none of the GUI stats would load and it was just acting funny. I was
>> sitting there watching it and the customer would start a Facebook or Google
>> Drive or something upload and it would crash. That's when I started
>> debugging with the MT bandwidth test.
>>
>> This second one is now over an hour away so we're just going to head
>> there with a complete spare 110 kit with a C8 ESN radio. I can't risk
>> loading a beta firmware remotely.
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> That's not the cold memory bug, I don't think.  That is some other bug
>> that may be resolved in 2.6, though...
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:52 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> Guess we had more than that one. Found another one that we did for a PTP
>>> link between buildings for a customer and it's acting stupid too. CF ESN.
>>> The other side is a C8 and it works fine. Ethernet stops passing traffic,
>>> GUI doesn't display all items, etc. Same thing the other one was doing.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking through stock, this is the only radio I have with newer than CF
>>> ESNs. I think this was a Force110 kit we picked up from Baltic. I have a
>>> small stash of integrated 5GHz and connectorized radios and they're all >> ESNs. We don't use a whole lot of them, just some PTP and very small POPs.
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 3:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask Sriram
>>> for it.
>>>
>>> I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect a few
>>> more are still going to show up.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke < 
>>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>>
 I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it
 acted up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic
 firmware?

 On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:

 Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
 standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy
 uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like
 this.

 On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

 That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have
 been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs

 On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.
>
> I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
> Communications Inc < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>> What firmware you guys running?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>> *Online: * *
>> www.surfici.net

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link

2016-01-11 Thread Craig House

I currently have Andrews dishes on the links and would like to just swap to 
epmp radios  one link is 10 miles. One is 6 and one is 28 miles but I'm 
planning on an In between hop soon for that link that will shorten it up some 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 20:10, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> I have a 13.8 mile ePTP link in 5.1 on a 20MHz channel currently. It does 
> about 81x65Mbps. I need to get it moved to a 40MHz channel to squeeze some 
> more throughput out of it until spring and we most likely do licensed.
> 
> It replaced a Rocket that would do only about 60x45 in a 20MHz channel. A 
> 40MHz channel didn't do any better. So I hope the ePMP does better on 40MHz.
> 
> BTW, the RF Elements easy brackets allowed the ePMP radios to hang onto the 
> RocketDishes. Really nice.
> 
>> On 1/11/2016 7:54 PM, Craig House wrote:
>> Anyone using EPMP for PTP links at 10 miles or  more?  What are the results 
>> and throughput on them.  What kind of throughput in a 40mhz channel?
>> I have one in use at 4 miles or so that has great signal on the force dish 
>> doing 88/77 MB   Flawless but I would like to know if your running them at 
>> all in 40mhz wide and what is the throughput?
>> 
>> Craig
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link

I did also have a 10.2 mile link on Laird HD dishes, basically the same 
as Rocket dishes. That link went to 11GHz a couple months ago.


If your Andrew dishes are dual pol and N female connectors, just 
order/make some RP-SMA to N-male pigtails and it should work just fine.


On 1/11/2016 8:26 PM, Craig House wrote:

I currently have Andrews dishes on the links and would like to just swap to 
epmp radios  one link is 10 miles. One is 6 and one is 28 miles but I'm 
planning on an In between hop soon for that link that will shorten it up some

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 11, 2016, at 20:10, George Skorup  wrote:

I have a 13.8 mile ePTP link in 5.1 on a 20MHz channel currently. It does about 
81x65Mbps. I need to get it moved to a 40MHz channel to squeeze some more 
throughput out of it until spring and we most likely do licensed.

It replaced a Rocket that would do only about 60x45 in a 20MHz channel. A 40MHz 
channel didn't do any better. So I hope the ePMP does better on 40MHz.

BTW, the RF Elements easy brackets allowed the ePMP radios to hang onto the 
RocketDishes. Really nice.


On 1/11/2016 7:54 PM, Craig House wrote:
Anyone using EPMP for PTP links at 10 miles or  more?  What are the results and 
throughput on them.  What kind of throughput in a 40mhz channel?
I have one in use at 4 miles or so that has great signal on the force dish 
doing 88/77 MB   Flawless but I would like to know if your running them at all 
in 40mhz wide and what is the throughput?

Craig

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link

2016-01-11 Thread Chris Fabien

3ft dishes, normally has about -64 rssi. Does fade occasionally on calm
summer mornings. We built a redundant path with 13 mile hops to counteract
fade.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Craig House 
wrote:

> Nice   What size dishes
>
> --
> *From: *"Chris Fabien" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, January 11, 2016 8:34:23 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link
>
> I have one at 26.2 miles, 20mhz channel, does about 65 megs either way in
> flexible mode.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:10 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> I have a 13.8 mile ePTP link in 5.1 on a 20MHz channel currently. It does
>> about 81x65Mbps. I need to get it moved to a 40MHz channel to squeeze some
>> more throughput out of it until spring and we most likely do licensed.
>>
>> It replaced a Rocket that would do only about 60x45 in a 20MHz channel. A
>> 40MHz channel didn't do any better. So I hope the ePMP does better on 40MHz.
>>
>> BTW, the RF Elements easy brackets allowed the ePMP radios to hang onto
>> the RocketDishes. Really nice.
>>
>>
>> On 1/11/2016 7:54 PM, Craig House wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone using EPMP for PTP links at 10 miles or  more?  What are the
>>> results and throughput on them.  What kind of throughput in a 40mhz channel?
>>> I have one in use at 4 miles or so that has great signal on the force
>>> dish doing 88/77 MB   Flawless but I would like to know if your running
>>> them at all in 40mhz wide and what is the throughput?
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link

Epmp blew away Powerbeams on a BH for me.  Seriously noisy site.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 11, 2016 9:38 PM, "Chris Fabien"  wrote:

> 3ft dishes, normally has about -64 rssi. Does fade occasionally on calm
> summer mornings. We built a redundant path with 13 mile hops to counteract
> fade.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Craig House 
> wrote:
>
>> Nice   What size dishes
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Chris Fabien" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, January 11, 2016 8:34:23 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link
>>
>> I have one at 26.2 miles, 20mhz channel, does about 65 megs either way in
>> flexible mode.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:10 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 13.8 mile ePTP link in 5.1 on a 20MHz channel currently. It
>>> does about 81x65Mbps. I need to get it moved to a 40MHz channel to squeeze
>>> some more throughput out of it until spring and we most likely do licensed.
>>>
>>> It replaced a Rocket that would do only about 60x45 in a 20MHz channel.
>>> A 40MHz channel didn't do any better. So I hope the ePMP does better on
>>> 40MHz.
>>>
>>> BTW, the RF Elements easy brackets allowed the ePMP radios to hang onto
>>> the RocketDishes. Really nice.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 7:54 PM, Craig House wrote:
>>>
 Anyone using EPMP for PTP links at 10 miles or  more?  What are the
 results and throughput on them.  What kind of throughput in a 40mhz 
 channel?
 I have one in use at 4 miles or so that has great signal on the force
 dish doing 88/77 MB   Flawless but I would like to know if your running
 them at all in 40mhz wide and what is the throughput?

 Craig

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

2016-01-11 Thread Glen Waldrop

MTU?

Last time I had that problem was an inconsistent Ethernet connection. It wasn’t 
showing errors, but UDP was dropping packets. TCP retransmitted.

UDP was screwy, but TCP was downloading at the limit of the wireless feed.





From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 9:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

Nailed the problem down to the Mikrotik router having a problem with DNS 
caching whether it’s Cox or Google.  Not sure where to go from there since the 
other 12 don’t have a problem.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

 

We had raons bit no dangling cables.  Level 3 says no errors to the modem and 
we had a tech out already.  We are changing the 2011 to a 450 just to confirm 
before we eacalate further.

 

 

 

Rory Conaway 

Triad Wireless

 

Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and abbreviations.

 

 

 Original message 

From: That One Guy /sarcasm  

Date: 1/11/2016 10:38 AM (GMT-07:00) 

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download 

 

If it just started and youre in an area hit by storms, some of the neighbors, 
mostly the empty houses with no tenants at this point, cable was busted down by 
tree limbs and is dangling terminated byt the mud now

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Glen Waldrop  wrote:

  Likely an RF issue on the cable side.

  I see this sort of thing with the company I consult for. They’ll have me 
going through the router, trying to shut down the “virus” or peer to peer when 
it is thousands and thousands of retransmits and broken packets.

   

  Just like our wireless it can have good quality until loaded, then watch the 
quality drop to nearly nothing and loose connection.

   

   

   

  From: Rory Conaway 

  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:25 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

   

  The Netgear router has nothing to do with it, I was just using their website 
as an example of downloading a file.  It’s computer, 2011, cable modem, the 
world.  I just can’t download anything from any sites.  What’s weird is they 
just drop.

   

  Rory

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:12 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

   

  You mention Netgear, is this a Netgear router?  They used to have a problem 
with downloads stalling, but that was quite a few years ago.  The fix was to 
disable SPI Firewall.

   

   

  From: Rory Conaway 

  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:06 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

   

  We have a cable circuit that can do everything except download.  There is a 
Mikrotik router between the computer and the cable modem.  Haven’t tested 
taking the router out yet but we have tried 2 routers, same results.  
Basically, downloads either don’t start or start and then just crash.  Game 
machines can’t update, even downloading a 20MB file from netgear fails.  
Everything else seems to work.  Any ideas would be helpful.

   

  Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

  4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

  602-426-0542

  r...@triadwireless.net

  www.triadwireless.net

   

  “Life is full of unfair calls, missed plays, and bad catches.  But true 
baseball players keep on playing”  - Lessons from Baseball

   





 

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

2016-01-11 Thread Rory Conaway

We tried 3 Mikrotik routers, 2 cable modems, and two radios from two different 
manufacturers.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

MTU?

Last time I had that problem was an inconsistent Ethernet connection. It wasn’t 
showing errors, but UDP was dropping packets. TCP retransmitted.

UDP was screwy, but TCP was downloading at the limit of the wireless feed.

From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 9:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

Nailed the problem down to the Mikrotik router having a problem with DNS 
caching whether it’s Cox or Google.  Not sure where to go from there since the 
other 12 don’t have a problem.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 4:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

We had raons bit no dangling cables.  Level 3 says no errors to the modem and 
we had a tech out already.  We are changing the 2011 to a 450 just to confirm 
before we eacalate further.

Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless

Typed on my phone with one finger so please excuse typos and abbreviations.

 Original message 
From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
>
Date: 1/11/2016 10:38 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

If it just started and youre in an area hit by storms, some of the neighbors, 
mostly the empty houses with no tenants at this point, cable was busted down by 
tree limbs and is dangling terminated byt the mud now

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Glen Waldrop 
> wrote:
Likely an RF issue on the cable side.

I see this sort of thing with the company I consult for. They’ll have me going 
through the router, trying to shut down the “virus” or peer to peer when it is 
thousands and thousands of retransmits and broken packets.

Just like our wireless it can have good quality until loaded, then watch the 
quality drop to nearly nothing and loose connection.

From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

The Netgear router has nothing to do with it, I was just using their website as 
an example of downloading a file.  It’s computer, 2011, cable modem, the world. 
 I just can’t download anything from any sites.  What’s weird is they just drop.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

You mention Netgear, is this a Netgear router?  They used to have a problem 
with downloads stalling, but that was quite a few years ago.  The fix was to 
disable SPI Firewall.

From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download

We have a cable circuit that can do everything except download.  There is a 
Mikrotik router between the computer and the cable modem.  Haven’t tested 
taking the router out yet but we have tried 2 routers, same results.  
Basically, downloads either don’t start or start and then just crash.  Game 
machines can’t update, even downloading a 20MB file from netgear fails.  
Everything else seems to work.  Any ideas would be helpful.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“Life is full of unfair calls, missed plays, and bad catches.  But true 
baseball players keep on playing”  - Lessons from Baseball

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link

Well yeah, but a regular ePMP radio is <$100 and was an easy swap for a 
set of Rockets.

On 1/12/2016 12:32 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote:
Try AF5X. These squeeze most out of small channels. They do 
10,20,30,40,50 MHZ Channels.

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: George Skorup 
Datum: 12.01.2016 03:10 (GMT+01:00)
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP BH link

I have a 13.8 mile ePTP link in 5.1 on a 20MHz channel currently. It 
does about 81x65Mbps. I need to get it moved to a 40MHz channel to 
squeeze some more throughput out of it until spring and we most likely 
do licensed.

It replaced a Rocket that would do only about 60x45 in a 20MHz 
channel. A 40MHz channel didn't do any better. So I hope the ePMP does 
better on 40MHz.

BTW, the RF Elements easy brackets allowed the ePMP radios to hang 
onto the RocketDishes. Really nice.

On 1/11/2016 7:54 PM, Craig House wrote:
> Anyone using EPMP for PTP links at 10 miles or  more?  What are the 
results and throughput on them.  What kind of throughput in a 40mhz 
channel?
> I have one in use at 4 miles or so that has great signal on the 
force dish doing 88/77 MB   Flawless but I would like to know if your 
running them at all in 40mhz wide and what is the throughput?

>
> Craig

Re: [AFMUG] Power system for Juniper MX960 Chassis

2016-01-11 Thread Seth Mattinen


On 1/11/16 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


 From a generator and UPS system perspective, do you have any gear /
vendor you would use to power such a beast in a cost conscious manner?



I would encourage looking brands other than APC like Eaton/Powerware and 
Liebert for the 10kW to 20kW range (or higher).


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

Where do you guys get your rubber mats?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 11, 2016 4:09 PM, "Peter Kranz"  wrote:

> I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually...
> I’ve seen plenty of examples where other company’s non-pen’s have eaten
> holes through rooftops.
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question
>
>
>
> If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the bottom,
> will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?  Are weld
> beads OK.
>
>
>
> Do you always use rubber mats under them?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

2016-01-11 Thread Seth Mattinen


On 1/11/16 13:09, Peter Kranz wrote:

I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually...
Iï¿½ve seen plenty of examples where other companyï¿½s non-penï¿½s have eaten
holes through rooftops.



I saw one that was completely embedded into an asphalt roof. I don't 
know how long it was up there but it wasn't coming out without making a 
big hole.


~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

Have you ever bought a car?  The salesman is on your side, you two are a team.  
I’m going to bat for you with my manager, wait here while I go and give it my 
best shot.  Ooooh, I tried my best, but here’s the lowest my manager would go.  
I’ll tell you what, I’ll give up part of my commission to meet you halfway.  
You want me to make a few dollars, right?  We’re a team here, you and me.

Kind of like good cop, bad cop.  I am the good cop.  We are the bad cop.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain whenever 
someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with customers on 
company related issues? 

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self absorbed 
gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you can refer to 
it as whatever you want)


Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day

carry on

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

Looking through stock, this is the only radio I have with newer than CF 
ESNs. I think this was a Force110 kit we picked up from Baltic. I have a 
small stash of integrated 5GHz and connectorized radios and they're all 
POPs.

On 1/11/2016 3:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask Sriram 
for it.

I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect a few 
more are still going to show up.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke > wrote:

I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and
it acted up last night.How does one go about getting this new
magic firmware?

On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under
heavy uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more
do I have like this.

On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far
have been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
Communications Inc > wrote:

What firmware you guys running?

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*unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
*prohibited.*

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And
surprised it can be fixed in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" > wrote:

That's promising...

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows
about it and they have a fix that they're testing.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov
> wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least
not in all cases. I'm looking at the output
of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected
radios, and it does look like it's crashing
hard. I don't see how it would be a
connector issue. Also, we have a few sites
with zero issues.. Same firmware and everything.

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?

*Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131
*
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540
 Cell/Direct #*
*Online: www.surfici.net
*

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread Josh Reynolds

This
On Jan 11, 2016 3:20 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:

> Have you ever bought a car?  The salesman is on your side, you two are a
> team.  I’m going to bat for you with my manager, wait here while I go and
> give it my best shot.  Ooooh, I tried my best, but here’s the lowest my
> manager would go.  I’ll tell you what, I’ll give up part of my commission
> to meet you halfway.  You want me to make a few dollars, right?  We’re a
> team here, you and me.
>
> Kind of like good cop, bad cop.  I am the good cop.  We are the bad cop.
>
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with
> customers
>
> Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain
> whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with
> customers on company related issues?
>
> We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self
> absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you
> can refer to it as whatever you want)
>
> Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day
>
> carry on
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

2016-01-11 Thread Lewis Bergman

We bought 100 foot rolls from tractor supply. I think they are used for
animal poems or something. Cheapest we found for a heavy rubber pad.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016, 3:16 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Where do you guys get your rubber mats?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jan 11, 2016 4:09 PM, "Peter Kranz"  wrote:
>
>> I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually...
>> I’ve seen plenty of examples where other company’s non-pen’s have eaten
>> holes through rooftops.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>> Mobile: 510-207-
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question
>>
>>
>>
>> If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the bottom,
>> will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?  Are weld
>> beads OK.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you always use rubber mats under them?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE issue / setting ?

Where is the PPPoE client, in the radio?  Or behind it?  What do you get with 
the radio bridged and the PPPoE client set up directly in Network Connections 
on your laptop?

Do you have any queues being set up via RADIUS reply attributes, like 
Mikrotik-Rate-Limit?


From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 2:43 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE issue / setting ?

We were seeing a similar issue with ePMP - changing the queue type on the 
Mikrotik to sfq fixed it... but if you're using an uncapped account, I don't 
know that there is a queue. 


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) 
 wrote:

  Here's one that has me scratching my head:

  Cambium 450 ap with virtually no one on it yet (maybe 10) with frame use 
under 5%. 1gb Poe 

  40mb sm running 8/4.  If I flood the link I get 48/16 flooded 

  The best I am getting on my uncapped PPPoE test account is about 10-15mb!

  From a 450 mt router I can hook up the Poe brick and do a Btest  back to the 
core.  Runs about 24-35 Mbps 

  Why the hell is my PPPoE so low ? 



  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net



  Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread Jay Weekley

What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself telling a 
customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".


That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain 
whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with 
customers on company related issues?


We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self 
absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, 
you can refer to it as whatever you want)


Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day

carry on

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

That is so true...

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> This
> On Jan 11, 2016 3:20 PM, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:
>
>> Have you ever bought a car?  The salesman is on your side, you two are a
>> team.  I’m going to bat for you with my manager, wait here while I go and
>> give it my best shot.  Ooooh, I tried my best, but here’s the lowest my
>> manager would go.  I’ll tell you what, I’ll give up part of my commission
>> to meet you halfway.  You want me to make a few dollars, right?  We’re a
>> team here, you and me.
>>
>> Kind of like good cop, bad cop.  I am the good cop.  We are the bad cop.
>>
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:05 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with
>> customers
>>
>> Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain
>> whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with
>> customers on company related issues?
>>
>> We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self
>> absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you
>> can refer to it as whatever you want)
>>
>> Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day
>>
>> carry on
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers


We are Borg

On 1/11/2016 4:27 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself telling a 
customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".


That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain 
whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating 
with customers on company related issues?


We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self 
absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the 
company, you can refer to it as whatever you want)


Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous 
tick day


carry on

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question


I'll have to check that out.

On 1/11/2016 4:25 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
We bought 100 foot rolls from tractor supply. I think they are used 
for animal poems or something. Cheapest we found for a heavy rubber pad.


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016, 3:16 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:


Where do you guys get your rubber mats?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 4:09 PM, "Peter Kranz" > wrote:

I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble
eventually... I’ve seen plenty of examples where other
company’s non-pen’s have eaten holes through rooftops.

*Peter Kranz
*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
Mobile: 510-207- 
pkr...@unwiredltd.com 

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on
the bottom, will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the
bottom want to be?  Are weld beads OK.

Do you always use rubber mats under them?

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

Best autocorrect of the day.

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

We bought 100 foot rolls from tractor supply. I think they are used for animal 
poems or something. Cheapest we found for a heavy rubber pad.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016, 3:16 PM Josh Luthman  wrote:

  Where do you guys get your rubber mats?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jan 11, 2016 4:09 PM, "Peter Kranz"  wrote:

I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually... 
I’ve seen plenty of examples where other company’s non-pen’s have eaten holes 
through rooftops.

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the bottom, 
will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?  Are weld beads 
OK.

Do you always use rubber mats under them?

Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

Or "we are not amused".
http://memegenerator.net/instance/25350217

-Original Message- 
From: Adam Moffett

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I,Me" when communicating with 
customers

We are Borg

On 1/11/2016 4:27 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
What's the context of the conversation?  I can't see myself telling a 
customer "we think you need to power cycle your router".

That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain 
whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with 
customers on company related issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self 
absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, 
you can refer to it as whatever you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick 
day

carry on

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

2016-01-11 Thread Cameron Crum

Yes, tractor supply pen mats work great.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/rubber-mat-black-4-ft-x-6-ft



On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Best autocorrect of the day.
>
>
> *From:* Lewis Bergman 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 3:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question
>
> We bought 100 foot rolls from tractor supply. I think they are used for
> animal poems or something. Cheapest we found for a heavy rubber pad.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016, 3:16 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Where do you guys get your rubber mats?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jan 11, 2016 4:09 PM, "Peter Kranz"  wrote:
>>
>>> I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually...
>>> I’ve seen plenty of examples where other company’s non-pen’s have eaten
>>> holes through rooftops.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-
>>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the
>>> bottom, will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?
>>> Are weld beads OK.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you always use rubber mats under them?
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question


Rubber pavers.that's a clever idea.

On 1/11/2016 2:30 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Commscope (or the Tessco house brand clones) has a 1/2ï¿½ thick mat that 
offers a lot more protection than the typical 1/8ï¿½ mats.

https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=414951
I was looking at some 16 and 24 inch square rubber paving blocks at 
Menards that are 3/4ï¿½ thick and made of 100% recycled rubber, is there 
any reason these wouldnï¿½t work?

http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/landscaping-materials/patio-blocks/c-5785.htm?brandName_facet=GenRubber
*From:* Keefe John 
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 1:14 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question
we always use mats.  Not using mats is a great way to tear a rubber roof.

On 1/11/2016 12:37 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the 
bottom, will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to 
be? Are weld beads OK.

Do you always use rubber mats under them?

Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE issue / setting ?

2016-01-11 Thread Larry Smith

Check your MTU settings, believe with PPPoE (at least on DSL) it automatically
changes the MTU to 1492 to accomodate the encapsulation.  We have had
some we have to drop to 1480 to get to work reliably because otherwise
we end up with loads and loads of fragmented packets (which kicks throughput 
way down).

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Mon January 11 2016 14:30, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:
> Here's one that has me scratching my head:
>
> Cambium 450 ap with virtually no one on it yet (maybe 10) with frame use
> under 5%. 1gb Poe
>
> 40mb sm running 8/4.  If I flood the link I get 48/16 flooded
>
> The best I am getting on my uncapped PPPoE test account is about 10-15mb!
>
> From a 450 mt router I can hook up the Poe brick and do a Btest  back to
> the core.  Runs about 24-35 Mbps
>
> Why the hell is my PPPoE so low ?
>
>
> Tyson Burris, President
> Internet Communications Inc.
> 739 Commerce Dr.
> Franklin, IN 46131
>
> 317-738-0320 Daytime #
> 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
> Online: www.surfici.net
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a 
standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy 
uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have 
like this.

On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have 
been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
Communications Inc > wrote:

What firmware you guys running?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net* 

ICI

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Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
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*unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
*prohibited.*

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised
it can be fixed in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" > wrote:

That's promising...

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about
it and they have a fix that they're testing.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov
> wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in
all cases. I'm looking at the output of "debug
crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it
does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see how
it would be a connector issue. Also, we have a few
sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and everything.

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?

*Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131
*
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: www.surfici.net *

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird
> wrote:

Yes.

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad
Sedov > wrote:

Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP
(GPS variety) in cold weather? We seem
to have a few units that started
randomly locking up in the middle of
the night when temps are below
freezing. Rebooting seems to clear
things up for a day or so.

peace

Vlad

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

I'll ask if I can share it.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it acted
> up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic firmware?
>
> On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>
> Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a standard
> 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy uplink
> traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like this.
>
> On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have been
> 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.
>>
>> I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>> Inc  wrote:
>>
>>> What firmware you guys running?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: * *
>>> www.surfici.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ICI]
>>>
>>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>>
>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>>> *prohibited.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be
>>> fixed in software.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" < 
>>> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's promising...
>>>
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have a
>>> fix that they're testing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov < 
>>> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking
>>> at the output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it
>>> does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector
>>> issue. Also, we have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and
>>> everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:
>>>
>>> So is this a cable connector problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President  Internet Communications Inc.  739 Commerce
>>> Dr.  Franklin, IN 46131   *
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online:  www.surfici.net
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird < 
>>> joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov < 
>>> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We
>>> seem to have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle of
>>> the night when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up
>>> for a day or so.
>>>
>>>
>>> peace
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11377 - Release Date:
>>> 01/11/16
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask Sriram for
it.

I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect a few more
are still going to show up.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it acted
> up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic firmware?
>
> On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
>
> Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a standard
> 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy uplink
> traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like this.
>
> On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have been
> 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.
>>
>> I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>> Inc  wrote:
>>
>>> What firmware you guys running?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: * *
>>> www.surfici.net *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ICI]
>>>
>>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>>
>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>>> *prohibited.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be
>>> fixed in software.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" < 
>>> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's promising...
>>>
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have a
>>> fix that they're testing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov < 
>>> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking
>>> at the output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it
>>> does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector
>>> issue. Also, we have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and
>>> everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:
>>>
>>> So is this a cable connector problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President  Internet Communications Inc.  739 Commerce
>>> Dr.  Franklin, IN 46131   *
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online:  www.surfici.net
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird < 
>>> joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov < 
>>> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We
>>> seem to have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle of
>>> the night when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up
>>> for a day or so.
>>>
>>>
>>> peace
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11377 - Release Date:
>>> 01/11/16
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] OT, irritation, "I, Me" when communicating with customers

2016-01-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

Does anyone else here have small nuclear detonations in their brain
whenever someone from the company uses I or Me when communicating with
customers on company related issues?

We, us, our, etc. You represent a fucking company, you fucking self
absorbed gits. (no offense to the people who actually own the company, you
can refer to it as whatever you want)

Im not lashing out at anybody on this list, just having a nervous tick day

carry on

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

I just searched by MAC through my CNUT that has all the sites in it.

On 1/11/2016 3:04 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I think the link is somewhere in this thread... otherwise, ask Sriram 
for it.

I wish we only had one... I've found 16 so far... and I suspect a few 
more are still going to show up.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Nate Burke > wrote:

I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and
it acted up last night.ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½  How does one go about getting this
new magic firmware?

On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:

Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a
standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under
heavy uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more
do I have like this.

On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far
have been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
Communications Inc > wrote:

What firmware you guys running?ï¿½

ï¿½

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
**ï¿½ *
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: *** *www.surfici.net
*

ï¿½

ICI

*What can ICI do for you?*

*Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh
Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower -
Infrastructure.*
*ï¿½ *
*CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
*addressee shown. It contains information that is*
*confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
*dissemination or use of this transmission or its
contents by*
*unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
*prohibited.*

ï¿½

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

ï¿½

From what I heard this morning I'm confident.ï¿½  And
surprised it can be fixed in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" > wrote:

That's promising...

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows
about it and they have a fix that they're testing.

ï¿½

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov
> wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least
not in all cases. I'm looking at the output
of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected
radios, and it does look like it's crashing
hard. I don't see how it would be a
connector issue. Also, we have a few sites
with zero issues.. Same firmware and everything.

Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem? ï¿½

*Tyson Burris, Presidentï¿½
Internet Communications Inc.ï¿½
739 Commerce Dr.ï¿½
Franklin, IN 46131ï¿½
ï¿½ *ï¿½
*317-738-0320
ï¿½ Daytime #*ï¿½
*317-412-1540
ï¿½ Cell/Direct #*ï¿½
*Online:ï¿½ www.surfici.net
*

Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE issue / setting ?

We were seeing a similar issue with ePMP - changing the queue type on the
Mikrotik to sfq fixed it... but if you're using an uncapped account, I
don't know that there is a queue.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) <
t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:

> Here's one that has me scratching my head:
>
> Cambium 450 ap with virtually no one on it yet (maybe 10) with frame use
> under 5%. 1gb Poe
>
> 40mb sm running 8/4.  If I flood the link I get 48/16 flooded
>
> The best I am getting on my uncapped PPPoE test account is about 10-15mb!
>
> From a 450 mt router I can hook up the Poe brick and do a Btest  back to
> the core.  Runs about 24-35 Mbps
>
> Why the hell is my PPPoE so low ?
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>
>
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

That may or may not be the same issue...but I would put the firmware on it
to check.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:48 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a standard
> 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under heavy uplink
> traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I have like this.
>
> On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have been
> 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> 2.6.1rc1 from Sri.
>>
>> I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
>> Inc  wrote:
>>
>>> What firmware you guys running?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online: * *www.surfici.net
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ICI]
>>>
>>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
>>> IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
>>>
>>> *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
>>> *addressee shown. It contains information that is*
>>> *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
>>> *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
>>> *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
>>> *prohibited.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it can be
>>> fixed in software.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" < 
>>> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's promising...
>>>
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>
>>> No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have a
>>> fix that they're testing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov < 
>>> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking
>>> at the output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it
>>> does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a connector
>>> issue. Also, we have a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and
>>> everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:
>>>
>>> So is this a cable connector problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President  Internet Communications Inc.  739 Commerce
>>> Dr.  Franklin, IN 46131   *
>>> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
>>> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
>>> *Online:  www.surfici.net
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird < 
>>> joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov < 
>>> v...@atlasok.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We
>>> seem to have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle of
>>> the night when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up
>>> for a day or so.
>>>
>>>
>>> peace
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11377 - Release Date:
>>> 01/11/16
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

I would concur with that, I only have 1 AP with 00:04:56:CE, and it 
acted up last night.How does one go about getting this new magic 
firmware?


On 1/11/2016 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Well, that explains the problem I have with a 00:04:56:CF. Just a 
standard 5GHz connectorized radio used as an SM. It reboots under 
heavy uplink traffic in cold weather. Awesome. Now how many more do I 
have like this.


On 1/11/2016 10:32 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
That would make sense... all of ours that I've seen it on so far have 
been 00:04:56:CE:XX:XX MACs


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:


2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
Communications Inc > wrote:

What firmware you guys running?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: *** *www.surfici.net*

ICI

*What can ICI do for you?*


*Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh
Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.*
**
*CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the*
*addressee shown. It contains information that is*
*confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,*
*dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by*
*unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly*
*prohibited.*

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 10:39 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised
it can be fixed in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov"  wrote:

That's promising...


Vlad


On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about
it and they have a fix that they're testing.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov
 wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in
all cases. I'm looking at the output of "debug
crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it
does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see
how it would be a connector issue. Also, we have
a few sites with zero issues.. Same firmware and
everything.


Vlad



On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet
Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?

*Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131
*
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: www.surfici.net*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat
fingers!


On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird
 wrote:

Yes.


http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad
Sedov  wrote:

Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP
(GPS variety) in cold weather? We
seem to have a few units that started
randomly locking up in the middle of
the night when temps are below
freezing. Rebooting seems to clear
things up for a day or so.


peace

Vlad

No virus found in this message.

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

2016-01-11 Thread Peter Kranz

I think anyone not using rubber mats is asking for trouble eventually...
I've seen plenty of examples where other company's non-pen's have eaten
holes through rooftops.

 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com  
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

 

If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the bottom,
will this be a problem?  Now smooth does the bottom want to be?  Are weld
beads OK.

 

Do you always use rubber mats under them?

Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question

2016-01-11 Thread Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

Hawear the glove parody. ..
On Jan 11, 2016 1:14 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Don't be a fool, wrap your...  mount?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> *From: *"Adam Moffett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, January 11, 2016 2:11:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Non Pen Mount Question
>
> +1
> I've always worried about a burr or a sharp corner on the angle iron
> cutting a roof membrane.ï¿½ I would never install without a rubber
> mat.but I've seen it done by other people.
>
>
> On 1/11/2016 1:48 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> Pretty much always use the rubber mats. Small protrusions (like the round
> head of a carriage bolt) is not normally an issue. Weld beads are OK too.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 1/11/2016 10:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> If the mount has the head of a carriage bolt coming though on the bottom,
> will this be a problem?ï¿½ Now smooth does the bottom want to be?ï¿½ Are
> weld beads OK.
> ï¿½
> Do you always use rubber mats under them?
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] PPPoE issue / setting ?

Here's one that has me scratching my head:

Cambium 450 ap with virtually no one on it yet (maybe 10) with frame use under 
5%. 1gb Poe 

40mb sm running 8/4.  If I flood the link I get 48/16 flooded 

The best I am getting on my uncapped PPPoE test account is about 10-15mb!

From a 450 mt router I can hook up the Poe brick and do a Btest  back to the 
core.  Runs about 24-35 Mbps 

Why the hell is my PPPoE so low ? 


Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net
 
Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

Re: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

2016-01-11 Thread Paul McCall

What is the history of this?Who here has been using them for a year or so?

I ask because it says they currently host "thousands of zones".  On the one 
hand that may seem like a large number, but we are a small ISP and have 100+ 
zones just by ourselves.  I could see one large ISP having thousands of zones 
by themselves.  Wouldn't they be open to DNS attacks (possibly more because of 
their exposure) that we would have no control of mitigating ?

Hoping that we can get some input on this

Paul

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

Paul,
Check this out: https://noc.esgob.com/secondary_dns

Location map: https://noc.esgob.com/

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 7:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Looking to swap DNS VMs

Anybody want to host a simple DNS VM in exchange for the same?  Just a little 
easier than hosting something like that on AWS.

Paul

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] Mike Hammett needs help.

2016-01-11 Thread Super WISP

We have not received our stock yet.

Mark Chamerlik
Strategic Account Manager-East Coast
[cid:image001.jpg@01D14A33.56536AF0]
630-818-1004
815-822-4490
ma...@wavonline.com
www.wavonline.com

For additional assistance: email 
tea...@wavonline.com

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mike Hammett needs help.

Mike reached out to me already.  We currently resell those and don't stock.  
WAV might have some.  I don't know.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Jan 10, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
If anyone knows someone at Baltic, they have it on their website:
http://www.balticnetworks.com/mimosa-connectorized-radio-4900-6000mhz-1gbps-802-11ac-mimo-4x4-4.html

Rocnoc doesn't have them.

CTI might have them, not sure if Jeff can get someone in the warehouse to go in 
today?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Jerry Head 
> wrote:
Mike Hammett just posted to Facebook the he is in dire need of a Mimosa B5c 
near Chicago.
He also states that his mailserver is down and requested someone post to the 
list on his behalf so here it is.

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Re: [AFMUG] Mike Hammett needs help.

2016-01-11 Thread Joe Falaschi

Mike if you still need any, we have a link in stock in Racine.

Joe

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We have not received our stock yet.

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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mike Hammett needs help.

Mike reached out to me already. We currently resell those and don't
stock. WAV might have some. I don't know.

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519 Office

574-220-7826 Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Jan 10, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:

If anyone knows someone at Baltic, they have it on their website:

http://www.balticnetworks.com/mimosa-connectorized-radio-4900-6000mhz-1gbps-802-11ac-mimo-4x4-4.html

Rocnoc doesn't have them.

CTI might have them, not sure if Jeff can get someone in the
warehouse to go in today?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Jerry Head
> wrote:

Mike Hammett just posted to Facebook the he is in dire need of a
Mimosa B5c near Chicago.
He also states that his mailserver is down and requested someone
post to the list on his behalf so here it is.

This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which
it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and
exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is
not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of
the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly
prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us
immediately by telephone at 630-818-1000.

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