Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Steve Jones]

other than experiencing some really questionable gigabit connectivity
issues and maddening issues with packetflux sync, on POPs i only see rj45
ends valuabled in top end cross connects and radio terminations, everything
else should be punched down to cat5/6 inserts and factory terminated patch
cables
why touch your cabling infrastructure?

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> the biggest cause of failure is not maintaining the blades on ez crimpers.
> Fresh blades and the ends have zero non ID10T errors (if using the real
> connectors and not knock offs)
> moisture --- if you have a drop of water in the connector, its not the
> connector thats the issue
> the brown is normally the first indicator, it catches doesnt fully cleave,
> instinct is to pull it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
> the next thing is they start beveling --- now moisture can be an issue,
> but more than likely that scorch, its cause you took a small surge that
> arced or you are directly shorting (the copper likes to hide behind the
> remaining insulation
>
> maintain your blades, they chew through blades fast
>
> dont use cable thats too snug on the insulation, it can roll the crimp,
> but the garbage cable is probably going to be a problem anyway
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> Not having issue with moisture...the cable slide guides on some allow
>> cables to be pinched enough to fail even though pin out is correct.   For
>> now I am going to attribute to my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I
>> will buy one this week.  Thanks for heads up
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jaime,
>>>
>>> We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last
>>> 10 years or so ? )
>>> Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised
>>> if the Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools.
>>>
>>> In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we
>>> have seen that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors.
>>>
>>> Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues..
>>> (p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of
>>> 'superlube' with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the
>>> moisture out of the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously'
>>> )
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" 
>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>>>
>>> Yep...I agree
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>>
 Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.

 bp
 


 On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

 The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I
 am looking at Klein one.

 Jaime Solorza

 On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done
> from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> does it work with pass through connectors?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different
>> in that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies
>> for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Cr
>> imper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
>> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
>> creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-
>> bc51-40082f82ce65
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.
>> Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>> thanks
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC licensing for dummies

[Jon Langeler]

It’s new work. But maybe only $1500 or less for the FCC paperwork. There’s no 
loopholes to be had.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Dec 14, 2017, at 12:01 AM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
> 
> So, as long as you're using the same channels, it's basically just updating 
> the hardware on the license, and you don't have to go through coordination or 
> anything like that? What about if you're currently using a 56mhz channel and 
> go up to 80mhz?
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>>> On 12/13/17 8:27 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why not license that 57(60) mhz channel at 80 just to have the 80 when we 
>>> relocate it? can we do that?
>> 
>> In 11GHz your choices at the upper end are 40 or 80MHz channels. If you want 
>> to run at any size above 40Mhz then you would ask to license an 80Mhz 
>> channel. For example a SAF Lumina running at 56Mhz would license an 80MHz 
>> channel.
>> 
>>> 
>>> We also have two mimosa links at 80 that id prefer to have nearer the end 
>>> of our network than closer. As long as we dont exceed EIRP and reuse the 
>>> antenna, is there anything stopping us from just replacing these with the 
>>> more stable integra 2+0?
>>> 
>>> does the fcc care if the hardware changes, but the pattern stays the same 
>>> without exceeding the EIRP?
>> 
>> Yes, you have to modify the license for any changes.
>> 
>> ~Seth
> 

[AFMUG] OT: potcoin

[Steve Jones]

as long as we are inserting digital OT currencies to bother the OT haters,
I just came across this
http://www.potcoin.com/
Since bitcoin hasnt allowed me to play, Im guessing I should invest in some
prison time
no, really though, WTH is this all about?

Re: [AFMUG] FCC licensing for dummies

[Steve Jones]

I like intellipath, but its probably better our vendor uses another. Ive
seen Liz Linkdn profile pic, and I drink. If I received a 1 am email from
her, id probably respond irresponsibly at that time of day

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:16 AM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> A path operating >40MHz is already on the 80MHz channel plan, so you'll
> likely be fine going from 56/60 to 80. You do not want to be responsible
> for interfering with another licensee, like public safety would be bad.
> Increasing channel bandwidth is a definite coordination because it could
> lead to a bucking scenario. Been there. Play it safe and always ask your
> coordinator, IMO. I like Liz @ Intelpath. She is extremely responsive and
> helpful. I picture her as Fry when he reaches 100 cups of coffee. No off
> switch. She sent me an email at like 1am and said my frequencies are clear
> and I can go ahead and change.
>
> On 12/13/2017 11:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> So, as long as you're using the same channels, it's basically just
> updating the hardware on the license, and you don't have to go through
> coordination or anything like that? What about if you're currently using a
> 56mhz channel and go up to 80mhz?
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Seth Mattinen 
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/13/17 8:27 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Why not license that 57(60) mhz channel at 80 just to have the 80 when
>>> we relocate it? can we do that?
>>>
>>
>> In 11GHz your choices at the upper end are 40 or 80MHz channels. If you
>> want to run at any size above 40Mhz then you would ask to license an 80Mhz
>> channel. For example a SAF Lumina running at 56Mhz would license an 80MHz
>> channel.
>>
>>
>>> We also have two mimosa links at 80 that id prefer to have nearer the
>>> end of our network than closer. As long as we dont exceed EIRP and reuse
>>> the antenna, is there anything stopping us from just replacing these with
>>> the more stable integra 2+0?
>>>
>>> does the fcc care if the hardware changes, but the pattern stays the
>>> same without exceeding the EIRP?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, you have to modify the license for any changes.
>>
>> ~Seth
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC licensing for dummies

[Steve Jones]

so, thats the B answer, I have no problem with that
What about the A?
Im not looking to skirt the system, Im too afraid of "the man" Im always
going to go B, Im just very curious. Like a well behaved housewife standing
by the oven looking out the window, while the neighbors wife, Linda is
throwing the Banquet meal box in the trash can.

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:31 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> You have to modify the license if you change hardware like that but it’s
> easy and not expensive (cpl hundred $$ I think but don’t quote me)
>
> We do it all the time.  Upgrade the core and migrate equipment to the edge
> etc.
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:27 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> So, first off, Im now authorized to approve a $20k purchase. Not big
>> money to most of you, but Ive never had that dollar amount authority before
>> outside of my personal life.. woot woot
>>
>> Anyway, we are transferring a fiasco license from a mishap FRN to our FRN
>> while migrating to a SAF integra 11gz 1.2gbps link
>>
>> This got me thinking, we have a lumina link now that we can stick
>> somewhere.
>>
>> Why not license that 57(60) mhz channel at 80 just to have the 80 when we
>> relocate it? can we do that?
>>
>> We also have two mimosa links at 80 that id prefer to have nearer the end
>> of our network than closer. As long as we dont exceed EIRP and reuse the
>> antenna, is there anything stopping us from just replacing these with the
>> more stable integra 2+0?
>>
>> does the fcc care if the hardware changes, but the pattern stays the same
>> without exceeding the EIRP?
>>
>> kind of looking for two answers
>> A. What can we "technically" get away with and not get in trouble
>> B. What do we lawfully have to do
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC licensing for dummies

[George Skorup]

A path operating >40MHz is already on the 80MHz channel plan, so you'll 
likely be fine going from 56/60 to 80. You do not want to be responsible 
for interfering with another licensee, like public safety would be bad. 
Increasing channel bandwidth is a definite coordination because it could 
lead to a bucking scenario. Been there. Play it safe and always ask your 
coordinator, IMO. I like Liz @ Intelpath. She is extremely responsive 
and helpful. I picture her as Fry when he reaches 100 cups of coffee. No 
off switch. She sent me an email at like 1am and said my frequencies are 
clear and I can go ahead and change.


On 12/13/2017 11:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
So, as long as you're using the same channels, it's basically just 
updating the hardware on the license, and you don't have to go through 
coordination or anything like that? What about if you're currently 
using a 56mhz channel and go up to 80mhz?


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Seth Mattinen > wrote:


On 12/13/17 8:27 PM, Steve Jones wrote:


Why not license that 57(60) mhz channel at 80 just to have the
80 when we relocate it? can we do that?


In 11GHz your choices at the upper end are 40 or 80MHz channels.
If you want to run at any size above 40Mhz then you would ask to
license an 80Mhz channel. For example a SAF Lumina running at
56Mhz would license an 80MHz channel.


We also have two mimosa links at 80 that id prefer to have
nearer the end of our network than closer. As long as we dont
exceed EIRP and reuse the antenna, is there anything stopping
us from just replacing these with the more stable integra 2+0?

does the fcc care if the hardware changes, but the pattern
stays the same without exceeding the EIRP?


Yes, you have to modify the license for any changes.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] FCC licensing for dummies

[Mathew Howard]

So, as long as you're using the same channels, it's basically just updating
the hardware on the license, and you don't have to go through coordination
or anything like that? What about if you're currently using a 56mhz channel
and go up to 80mhz?

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 12/13/17 8:27 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> Why not license that 57(60) mhz channel at 80 just to have the 80 when we
>> relocate it? can we do that?
>>
>
> In 11GHz your choices at the upper end are 40 or 80MHz channels. If you
> want to run at any size above 40Mhz then you would ask to license an 80Mhz
> channel. For example a SAF Lumina running at 56Mhz would license an 80MHz
> channel.
>
>
>> We also have two mimosa links at 80 that id prefer to have nearer the end
>> of our network than closer. As long as we dont exceed EIRP and reuse the
>> antenna, is there anything stopping us from just replacing these with the
>> more stable integra 2+0?
>>
>> does the fcc care if the hardware changes, but the pattern stays the same
>> without exceeding the EIRP?
>>
>
> Yes, you have to modify the license for any changes.
>
> ~Seth
>

Re: [AFMUG] FCC licensing for dummies

[Seth Mattinen]

On 12/13/17 8:27 PM, Steve Jones wrote:


Why not license that 57(60) mhz channel at 80 just to have the 80 when 
we relocate it? can we do that?


In 11GHz your choices at the upper end are 40 or 80MHz channels. If you 
want to run at any size above 40Mhz then you would ask to license an 
80Mhz channel. For example a SAF Lumina running at 56Mhz would license 
an 80MHz channel.




We also have two mimosa links at 80 that id prefer to have nearer the 
end of our network than closer. As long as we dont exceed EIRP and reuse 
the antenna, is there anything stopping us from just replacing these 
with the more stable integra 2+0?


does the fcc care if the hardware changes, but the pattern stays the 
same without exceeding the EIRP?


Yes, you have to modify the license for any changes.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] FCC licensing for dummies

[Sean Heskett]

You have to modify the license if you change hardware like that but it’s
easy and not expensive (cpl hundred $$ I think but don’t quote me)

We do it all the time.  Upgrade the core and migrate equipment to the edge
etc.

-Sean


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:27 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> So, first off, Im now authorized to approve a $20k purchase. Not big money
> to most of you, but Ive never had that dollar amount authority before
> outside of my personal life.. woot woot
>
> Anyway, we are transferring a fiasco license from a mishap FRN to our FRN
> while migrating to a SAF integra 11gz 1.2gbps link
>
> This got me thinking, we have a lumina link now that we can stick
> somewhere.
>
> Why not license that 57(60) mhz channel at 80 just to have the 80 when we
> relocate it? can we do that?
>
> We also have two mimosa links at 80 that id prefer to have nearer the end
> of our network than closer. As long as we dont exceed EIRP and reuse the
> antenna, is there anything stopping us from just replacing these with the
> more stable integra 2+0?
>
> does the fcc care if the hardware changes, but the pattern stays the same
> without exceeding the EIRP?
>
> kind of looking for two answers
> A. What can we "technically" get away with and not get in trouble
> B. What do we lawfully have to do
>
>

[AFMUG] FCC licensing for dummies

[Steve Jones]

So, first off, Im now authorized to approve a $20k purchase. Not big money
to most of you, but Ive never had that dollar amount authority before
outside of my personal life.. woot woot

Anyway, we are transferring a fiasco license from a mishap FRN to our FRN
while migrating to a SAF integra 11gz 1.2gbps link

This got me thinking, we have a lumina link now that we can stick somewhere.

Why not license that 57(60) mhz channel at 80 just to have the 80 when we
relocate it? can we do that?

We also have two mimosa links at 80 that id prefer to have nearer the end
of our network than closer. As long as we dont exceed EIRP and reuse the
antenna, is there anything stopping us from just replacing these with the
more stable integra 2+0?

does the fcc care if the hardware changes, but the pattern stays the same
without exceeding the EIRP?

kind of looking for two answers
A. What can we "technically" get away with and not get in trouble
B. What do we lawfully have to do

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Steve Jones]

the biggest cause of failure is not maintaining the blades on ez crimpers.
Fresh blades and the ends have zero non ID10T errors (if using the real
connectors and not knock offs)
moisture --- if you have a drop of water in the connector, its not the
connector thats the issue
the brown is normally the first indicator, it catches doesnt fully cleave,
instinct is to pull it off --- you just uncrimped that pin
the next thing is they start beveling --- now moisture can be an issue, but
more than likely that scorch, its cause you took a small surge that arced
or you are directly shorting (the copper likes to hide behind the remaining
insulation

maintain your blades, they chew through blades fast

dont use cable thats too snug on the insulation, it can roll the crimp, but
the garbage cable is probably going to be a problem anyway


On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Not having issue with moisture...the cable slide guides on some allow
> cables to be pinched enough to fail even though pin out is correct.   For
> now I am going to attribute to my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I
> will buy one this week.  Thanks for heads up
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:
>
>> Jaime,
>>
>> We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last 10
>> years or so ? )
>> Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised
>> if the Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools.
>>
>> In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we have
>> seen that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors.
>>
>> Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues..
>> (p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of
>> 'superlube' with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the
>> moisture out of the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously'
>> )
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" 
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>>
>> Yep...I agree
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I
>>> am looking at Klein one.
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>>
 Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done
 from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).

 bp
 


 On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

 does it work with pass through connectors?

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>

 On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince 
 wrote:

> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-
> Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIE
> ZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025&
> creative=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-
> e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.
> Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
> thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>
>
>


>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

Not having issue with moisture...the cable slide guides on some allow
cables to be pinched enough to fail even though pin out is correct.   For
now I am going to attribute to my bad Hombre crimperI like Klein so I
will buy one this week.  Thanks for heads up

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:

> Jaime,
>
> We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last 10
> years or so ? )
> Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised if
> the Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools.
>
> In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we have
> seen that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors.
>
> Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues..
> (p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of
> 'superlube' with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the
> moisture out of the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously'
> )
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" 
> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work
>
> Yep...I agree
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I
>> am looking at Klein one.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>>
>>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
>>> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>>
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
 that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
 all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.

 https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/
 B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
 hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
 creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65

 bp
 


 On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

 What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
 Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.
 Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
 thanks
 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>



>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Jaime, 

We have been using Platinum tools crimper for their ez-45 jacks. (last 10 years 
or so ? ) 
Not sure which Klein model you are looking at, I would not be surprised if the 
Klein is an oem by Platinum Tools. 

In regards to comments about moisture and shorting ... cannot say we have seen 
that as a functional/design defect of using ez-rj45 connectors. 

Most moisture & water intrusions are due to other issues.. 
(p.s. there is a valid reason why Mimosa includes a small tube of 'superlube' 
with their radios... it works surprising well in keeping the moisture out of 
the connector, we have started using it more 'religiously' ) 

Regards 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 1:19:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

> Yep...I agree

> Jaime Solorza

> On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:

>> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>> bp
>> 
>> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

>>> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
>>> looking at Klein one.

>>> Jaime Solorza

>>> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:

 Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors? Only the RJ45 is done from 
 the end.
 The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
 bp
 
 On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

> does it work with pass through connectors?

> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390

> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:

>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in 
>> that you
>> insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for all 
>> the usual
>> suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.

>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>> bp
>> 
>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues. Luckily 
>>> I had a
>>> spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>> thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Bill Prince]

They are "easy" if you have never done an RJ45 before, and you can 
verify the colors easier after insertion. However, they leave the end 
open for water & air intrusion. On outdoor connections, we almost always 
use gel-filled cable, and when you crimp them properly, they fill the 
RJ45 with gel. We like those a lot.


bp


On 12/13/2017 10:40 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

I've never used those.  Seems like people either love em or hate em.
I imagine it must be easier to maintain the maximum untwist amount. 
 It seems like you could keep shoving the wires through until you only 
have the 1/4" of untwisted wire you're looking for.  That's pure 
speculation though.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" >

To: "af@afmug.com" >
Sent: 12/13/2017 1:30:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

I used those when I first started, I am also not a fan. I had all 
kinds of problems with getting them to fit the Ethernet port on 
Canopy SMs, the release tab didn't want to snap into place. Having 
said that, I still have a couple of the Platinum Tools crimpers and 
they work fine.


On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, Bill Prince > wrote:


Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45
connectors so I am looking at Klein one.

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:

Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors? Only the RJ45
is done from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as
is typical).

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince
> wrote:

I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a
little different in that you insert the RJ45 from the
end instead of the side. I have dies for all the usual
suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65



bp


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused
some issues.  Luckily I had a spare...looking at the
Klein one but open to suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

The quality of connectors is suspect...

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 11:40 AM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

I've never used those.  Seems like people either love em or hate em.
I imagine it must be easier to maintain the maximum untwist amount.  It
seems like you could keep shoving the wires through until you only have the
1/4" of untwisted wire you're looking for.  That's pure speculation though.


-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 12/13/2017 1:30:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

I used those when I first started, I am also not a fan. I had all kinds of
problems with getting them to fit the Ethernet port on Canopy SMs, the
release tab didn't want to snap into place. Having said that, I still have
a couple of the Platinum Tools crimpers and they work fine.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
> looking at Klein one.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
>> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Cr
>>> imper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
>>> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953
>>> SIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily
>>> I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>> thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Adam Moffett]

I've never used those.  Seems like people either love em or hate em.
I imagine it must be easier to maintain the maximum untwist amount.  It 
seems like you could keep shoving the wires through until you only have 
the 1/4" of untwisted wire you're looking for.  That's pure speculation 
though.



-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 12/13/2017 1:30:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

I used those when I first started, I am also not a fan. I had all kinds 
of problems with getting them to fit the Ethernet port on Canopy SMs, 
the release tab didn't want to snap into place. Having said that, I 
still have a couple of the Platinum Tools crimpers and they work fine.


On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, Bill Prince  
wrote:

Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.

bp



On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so 
I am looking at Klein one.


Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done 
from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).


bp



On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  
wrote:
I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little 
different in that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the 
side. I have dies for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N 
connectors, etc.



https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65 



bp



On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  
Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to 
suggestions.

thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jason McKemie]

I used those when I first started, I am also not a fan. I had all kinds of
problems with getting them to fit the Ethernet port on Canopy SMs, the
release tab didn't want to snap into place. Having said that, I still have
a couple of the Platinum Tools crimpers and they work fine.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, Bill Prince  wrote:

> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
> looking at Klein one.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
>> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Cr
>>> imper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
>>> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
>>> creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily
>>> I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>> thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Robert Andrews]

Partially because they just love to have dampness across the ends for 
developing shorts...


On 12/13/2017 10:19 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Yep...I agree

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:


Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors
so I am looking at Klein one.

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:

Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is
done from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is
typical).

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince
> wrote:

I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little
different in that you insert the RJ45 from the end
instead of the side. I have dies for all the usual
suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65



bp


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some
issues. Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one
but open to suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep...I agree

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 11:15 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
> looking at Klein one.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:
>
>> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
>> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> does it work with pass through connectors?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Cr
>>> imper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
>>> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
>>> creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>
>>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily
>>> I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>>> thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Bill Prince]

Oh. Those "easy-RJ45" things? I hate those.

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:08 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so 
I am looking at Klein one.


Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince" > wrote:


Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is
done from the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).

bp


On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince > wrote:

I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little
different in that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of
the side. I have dies for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11,
BNC, N connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65



bp


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some
issues. Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but
open to suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

The guys I work with use nothing but pass through RJ-45 connectors so I am
looking at Klein one.

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 13, 2017 10:05 AM, "Bill Prince"  wrote:

> Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from
> the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> does it work with pass through connectors?
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
>> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
>> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-
>> Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIE
>> ZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025&
>> creative=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-
>> e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
>> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily
>> I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
>> thanks
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <%28915%29%20861-1390>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Bill Prince]

Passthrough RJ45? Or other style connectors?  Only the RJ45 is done from 
the end. The other dies go in from the side (as is typical).


bp


On 12/13/2017 9:01 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince > wrote:


I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little
different in that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the
side. I have dies for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N
connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65



bp


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues. 
Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to
suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

does it work with pass through connectors?

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in
> that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies for
> all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/
> B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=
> hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953&
> creativeASIN=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
> Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily I
> had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
> thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Bill Prince]

I have a Paladin that has replaceable dies. It's a little different in 
that you insert the RJ45 from the end instead of the side. I have dies 
for all the usual suspects, RJ45, RJ11, BNC, N connectors, etc.


https://www.amazon.com/Greenlee-PA8033-Ergonomic-CrimpALL-Crimper/dp/B6HYWF?SubscriptionId=AKIAI6T6MQZ3NIEZLJXQ=hanutt0f-20=xm2=2025=165953=B6HYWF=534fd1a1-e9c8-4552-bc51-40082f82ce65

bp


On 12/13/2017 8:37 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  
Luckily I had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.

thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

[AFMUG] Cable crimpers for RJ-45 work

[Jaime Solorza]

What are you kool kats using for your LAN cable crimps?
Mine started breaking end of connectors and caused some issues.  Luckily I
had a spare...looking at the Klein one but open to suggestions.
thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] alt list?

[Dave]

Wut Hold my beer and watch this :)


On 12/09/2017 11:39 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
i'm more interested in the social chat than the "tech" chat, but i do 
use both.

if those 5 people go to another room, i'll follow them LOL

- Original Message -
*From:* Dev 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Friday, December 8, 2017 3:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] alt list?

Right, that’s why they have high/low volume lists in other
communities, separates out the technical from the noise.

There are lots of places to find noise, and few to find some of
the information on this list.

By volume, the white noise just escalates and begets other
irrelevant noise in some sort of asymptotic trend that doesn’t
seem worth the effort to manage to get to what’s of interest, so
it becomes a chore not to round-file the whole list traffic.

Seems like there’s around 5 people generating the noise source, so
relevant to the total number of list members it’s a very, very
small group generating extra work for the other vast majority of
subscribers. If you got these five people in a room and let them
talk, most everyone else would leave to do productive things.

>>
>

Sure does waste time though.=



--

Re: [AFMUG] My phone can beat up your phone

[Dave]

I carried one on my last tour. 08-09
The only thing I did not like about it was it didnt talk :)
But was great at finding a spot on the ground within 10m


On 12/12/2017 06:13 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
This is a Rockwell device that I found by transportation manager 
desk...I have no idea what it is...


Jaime Solorza


--

Re: [AFMUG] My phone can beat up your phone

[Adam Moffett]

Jamie impersonators will carry on the legend.

-- Original Message --
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 12/12/2017 10:48:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] My phone can beat up your phone

It's out of service and old technologyrumors of my apparent suicide 
are grossly exaggerated...


Jaime Solorza

On Dec 12, 2017 8:35 PM, "Steve Jones"  
wrote:

you were told that
youre now on a list for touching it
you never touch the government looking thing
my condolences on your impending suicide

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

It's an old military GPSI was told

Jaime Solorza

On Dec 12, 2017 5:13 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  
wrote:
This is a Rockwell device that I found by transportation manager 
desk...I have no idea what it is...


Jaime Solorza