Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

[Vlad Sedov]

You mean the old Fisher Price edition, Chuck?

:D


Vlad


On 8/24/2017 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Did  you ever use the original ePMP?
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11
ill have to look into browser
by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the 
login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the 
gears quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an 
afterthought

at least its not java, ill give it that
I guess I'm just babied on saf, fast, never an issue with the interface.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Rory Conaway 
 wrote:


Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things.  I’m not sure how
you say it’s clunky.  It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors
GUI’s.

As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely
false.  If the AP is on the connection side, the client side will
always search and connect.

Every manufacturer ships with older firmware so again, I don’t see
how that is any different than anyone else.

As for the SSID, you have to use Chrome.  If you use IE, then the
save button doesn’t pop up. Chrome lets you type in whatever you want.

Rory


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:55 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa b11

very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living
room floor

web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has
any issue no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road
trip, glad these are going in a redundant path

essids reverting to factory... awesome

I can guarantee we will need two spares because the first time I'm
going to do a replacement after a storm in inclement weather and
this stupid 30 minute process of activating, loading firmwares,
all that, the first ones getting chucked through a window

seriously, you have to scan essid? you cant just put it in, how
freaking stupid is that.

now I haven't checked the maps, but I'm pretty confident theres no
11ghz link going through my house, so a noise floor in the low 80s
is pretty suspect. wondering if my 5ghz ap is the source of that
"11ghz" fucking upconverts, I should have researched more

the blazing fast speed of the interface is making me have some
respect for the epmp

reboot time on this "carrier class" product is outstanding, pretty
sure if I ever have to reboot in production ill have time to drive
to everybodys house and let them know whats going on before it
comes back up.

I do like that radiowaves has a mimisa interface for the hp line
of antennas though, so if need be ill just pull it off and put a
saf interface on.

[AFMUG] Looking for a couple of used 450 APs

[Vlad Sedov]

Hey folks.. as the title says, we're looking for a couple of used 450 
AP's.. Hit me off-list if you have some.


Thanks a bunch..

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] test

[Vlad Sedov]

nope, nothing here



vlad


On 3/21/2017 5:49 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

Seriously doubt it. More like $10-15 on a bad day..


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 4:25 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

The case cost more than $50

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 4:03 PM Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com 
<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote:


So they're charging $995.00 for something that likely cost them <
$50.  Now you know their profit margins on radios and other hardware.

Keefe


On 2/17/2017 3:28 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Awesome! Can't wait. We have a bunch of these Medusas going up in
the near future..


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 3:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

So this looks like as good of a place as any to provide this tidbit:

I finally found the component I was looking for to complete the
cambium sync design here, and I now have a breadboarded solution
to sync Medusa (and 450i) via 'cambium sync) here.   Seems to be
working.   I'm in the process of getting the design on a
prototype board for the rackmount injector. This *is* going to
be more expensive than the non-cambium sync version, but for
roughly the price of just that controller,  you should be able
to get the rackmount chassis+controller plus either 8 of
injection, and a syncbox GPS receiver.   For probably around
$1200 or so, you should be able to get a fully loaded one with
16 ports of sync.

I'm *not* holding this injector for this for reasons I described
in earlier threads, but add a month or two after WISPAMERICA and
this should be shipping.

-forrest


On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:

The only reason we got this is to properly sync our Medusa
APs from the base of the tower, and maintain a clean gigabit
ethernet link.
If Forrest had a product that did the same thing, we would
be all over it. Literally every other piece of GPS sync
hardware we use is from PacketFlux.


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 11:09 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:


You could also buy all the parts to do the same thing with
PacketFlux gear for a whole lot less than $800... I don't
think the actual cost of building the hardware has much to
do with the price of a CMM



On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:



You couldn't write the software for it for $100.

Are you looking at a prototype or a finished product? Link?



-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious,
Cambium?

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a
bit more um.. rugged. I can build this for about $100.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make money.


    -- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you
serious, Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller,
a DC-DC regulator, and a metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with
LuCI web interface, and a module to control
the CMM5.

Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad




-- 
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com <mailto:forre...@imach.com> |
http://www.packetflux.com <http://www.packetflux.com/>
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>
<http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

4x markup for something that works is very reasonable. 10x or more 
markup for a poorly-built device is a bit much.. They could have at 
least included a hot glue stick to fix the dang power connector.



Vlad

On 2/17/2017 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Nothing new.  Solectek got started by using a PC, SMC Ethernet card, 
NCR WaveLAN card and KarlNet software on memory card.   Back then 
parts about 600..sold for 2499.00 if I recall... Same with OverLAN and 
TTI.


On Feb 17, 2017 3:06 PM, "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:


Well, I can see paying premium for radios.. After all, they work
good, and make us lots of money.. They are well-engineered and
tested for the most part.
The CMM5 controller is a hobby-grade piece of untested
off-the-shelf crap, and does not justify the price tag.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 4:02 PM, Keefe John wrote:


So they're charging $995.00 for something that likely cost them <
$50.  Now you know their profit margins on radios and other hardware.

Keefe


    On 2/17/2017 3:28 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Awesome! Can't wait. We have a bunch of these Medusas going up
in the near future..


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 3:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

So this looks like as good of a place as any to provide this
tidbit:

I finally found the component I was looking for to complete the
cambium sync design here, and I now have a breadboarded
solution to sync Medusa (and 450i) via 'cambium sync) here.  
Seems to be working.   I'm in the process of getting the design

on a prototype board for the rackmount injector. This *is*
going to be more expensive than the non-cambium sync version,
but for roughly the price of just that controller, you should
be able to get the rackmount chassis+controller plus either 8
of injection, and a syncbox GPS receiver.   For probably around
$1200 or so, you should be able to get a fully loaded one with
16 ports of sync.

I'm *not* holding this injector for this for reasons I
described in earlier threads, but add a month or two after
WISPAMERICA and this should be shipping.

-forrest



On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:

The only reason we got this is to properly sync our Medusa
APs from the base of the tower, and maintain a clean
gigabit ethernet link.
If Forrest had a product that did the same thing, we would
be all over it. Literally every other piece of GPS sync
hardware we use is from PacketFlux.


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 11:09 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

You could also buy all the parts to do the same thing with
PacketFlux gear for a whole lot less than $800... I don't
think the actual cost of building the hardware has much to
do with the price of a CMM

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You couldn't write the software for it for $100.

Are you looking at a prototype or a finished product?
Link?



-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you
serious, Cambium?

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a
bit more um.. rugged. I can build this for about $100.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make money.


    -- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you
serious, Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi
controller, a DC-DC regulator, and a metal
box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with
LuCI web interface, and a module to
control the CMM5.

Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad










-- 
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

So Trump's secret plan was to get WISPs to pay for the wall...



Vlad


On 2/17/2017 4:07 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


They need to cover the 35% tax for building it in Mexico.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Keefe John
*Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 4:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

So they're charging $995.00 for something that likely cost them < 
$50.  Now you know their profit margins on radios and other hardware.


Keefe

On 2/17/2017 3:28 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Awesome! Can't wait. We have a bunch of these Medusas going up in
the near future..


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 3:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

So this looks like as good of a place as any to provide this
tidbit:

I finally found the component I was looking for to complete
the cambium sync design here, and I now have a breadboarded
solution to sync Medusa (and 450i) via 'cambium sync) here.  
Seems to be working.   I'm in the process of getting the
design on a prototype board for the rackmount injector.
This *is* going to be more expensive than the non-cambium sync
version, but for roughly the price of just that controller, 
you should be able to get the rackmount chassis+controller

plus either 8 of injection, and a syncbox GPS receiver.   For
probably around $1200 or so, you should be able to get a fully
loaded one with 16 ports of sync.

I'm *not* holding this injector for this for reasons I
described in earlier threads, but add a month or two after
WISPAMERICA and this should be shipping.

-forrest

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:

The only reason we got this is to properly sync our Medusa
APs from the base of the tower, and maintain a clean
gigabit ethernet link.
If Forrest had a product that did the same thing, we would
be all over it. Literally every other piece of GPS sync
hardware we use is from PacketFlux.


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 11:09 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

You could also buy all the parts to do the same thing
with PacketFlux gear for a whole lot less than $800...
I don't think the actual cost of building the hardware
has much to do with the price of a CMM

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You couldn't write the software for it for $100.

Are you looking at a prototype or a finished
product? Link?



-- Original Message --
    From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>

Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you
serious, Cambium?

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect
something a bit more um.. rugged. I can build
this for about $100.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make
money.


-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you
serious, Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi
controller, a DC-DC regulator, and a
metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro
with LuCI web interface, and a module
to control the CMM5.

Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad




-- 


*Forrest Christian*/CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT
59602

forre...@imach.com <mailto:forre...@imach.com> |
http://www.packetflux.com <htt

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

Well, I can see paying premium for radios.. After all, they work good, 
and make us lots of money.. They are well-engineered and tested for the 
most part.
The CMM5 controller is a hobby-grade piece of untested off-the-shelf 
crap, and does not justify the price tag.



Vlad

On 2/17/2017 4:02 PM, Keefe John wrote:


So they're charging $995.00 for something that likely cost them < 
$50.  Now you know their profit margins on radios and other hardware.


Keefe


On 2/17/2017 3:28 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote:
Awesome! Can't wait. We have a bunch of these Medusas going up in the 
near future..



Vlad


On 2/17/2017 3:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

So this looks like as good of a place as any to provide this tidbit:

I finally found the component I was looking for to complete the 
cambium sync design here, and I now have a breadboarded solution to 
sync Medusa (and 450i) via 'cambium sync) here.   Seems to be 
working.   I'm in the process of getting the design on a prototype 
board for the rackmount injector. This *is* going to be more 
expensive than the non-cambium sync version, but for roughly the 
price of just that controller,  you should be able to get the 
rackmount chassis+controller plus either 8 of injection, and a 
syncbox GPS receiver.   For probably around $1200 or so, you should 
be able to get a fully loaded one with 16 ports of sync.


I'm *not* holding this injector for this for reasons I described in 
earlier threads, but add a month or two after WISPAMERICA and this 
should be shipping.


-forrest



On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:


The only reason we got this is to properly sync our Medusa APs
from the base of the tower, and maintain a clean gigabit
ethernet link.
If Forrest had a product that did the same thing, we would be
all over it. Literally every other piece of GPS sync hardware we
use is from PacketFlux.


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 11:09 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

You could also buy all the parts to do the same thing with
PacketFlux gear for a whole lot less than $800... I don't think
the actual cost of building the hardware has much to do with
the price of a CMM

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You couldn't write the software for it for $100.

Are you looking at a prototype or a finished product? Link?



-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious,
Cambium?

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a bit
more um.. rugged. I can build this for about $100.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make money.


    ------ Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious,
Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller, a
DC-DC regulator, and a metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with LuCI
web interface, and a module to control the CMM5.

Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad










--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com <mailto:forre...@imach.com> | 
http://www.packetflux.com <http://www.packetflux.com/>
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> 
<http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

Awesome! Can't wait. We have a bunch of these Medusas going up in the 
near future..



Vlad


On 2/17/2017 3:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

So this looks like as good of a place as any to provide this tidbit:

I finally found the component I was looking for to complete the 
cambium sync design here, and I now have a breadboarded solution to 
sync Medusa (and 450i) via 'cambium sync) here. Seems to be working.   
I'm in the process of getting the design on a prototype board for the 
rackmount injector. This *is* going to be more expensive than the 
non-cambium sync version, but for roughly the price of just that 
controller, you should be able to get the rackmount chassis+controller 
plus either 8 of injection, and a syncbox GPS receiver.   For probably 
around $1200 or so, you should be able to get a fully loaded one with 
16 ports of sync.


I'm *not* holding this injector for this for reasons I described in 
earlier threads, but add a month or two after WISPAMERICA and this 
should be shipping.


-forrest



On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:


The only reason we got this is to properly sync our Medusa APs
from the base of the tower, and maintain a clean gigabit ethernet
link.
If Forrest had a product that did the same thing, we would be all
over it. Literally every other piece of GPS sync hardware we use
is from PacketFlux.


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 11:09 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

You could also buy all the parts to do the same thing with
PacketFlux gear for a whole lot less than $800... I don't think
the actual cost of building the hardware has much to do with the
price of a CMM

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

You couldn't write the software for it for $100.

Are you looking at a prototype or a finished product? Link?



-- Original Message ------
    From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a bit
more um.. rugged. I can build this for about $100.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make money.


-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious,
Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller, a
DC-DC regulator, and a metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with LuCI
web interface, and a module to control the CMM5.

Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad










--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com <mailto:forre...@imach.com> | 
http://www.packetflux.com <http://www.packetflux.com/>
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> 
<http://facebook.com/packetflux> <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

Oh, and get this.. Disconnect power from it and let it boot a few 
times... After a few cycles, web server no longer works.


There's a service bulletin for this problem as of Monday... "Can't 
access GUI Interface"

/
//"We expect to have a software fix identified and available//
//shortly. Customers have the option of either RMAing the unit//
//for a replacement or, if they prefer, they can arrange to have a//
//replacement SD card mailed to them. The customer would//
//then have to follow a procedure to remove the lid of the//
//controller and replace the SD card, discarding the original.//
//As soon as the software fix is ready, we will have more//
//instructions available for this replacement.//
//A product RMA request can be opened from the Cambium//
//Customer Support Portal at the following URL://
//http://support.cambiumnetworks.com"/



..or just use Win32DiskImager and flash the IMG from the support website 
onto the SD card.


This product is NOT ready for prime time, and certainly isn't worth 
hundreds of dollars.


grr


Vlad



On 2/17/2017 11:40 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

I suspect you could... maybe that's why they have to charge so much :P

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com 
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:


Oh boy, now this is getting interesting...

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Eric Muehleisen
<ericm...@gmail.com <mailto:ericm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Could you just take the SD card out, clone it, then put it into
another Pi
> and make your own cheap Cambium controller?
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Brian Sullivan
<installe...@foxvalley.net <mailto:installe...@foxvalley.net>>
> wrote:
>>
>> At least they are using the highest quality electronics here!!!
>>
>> On 2/17/2017 11:11 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a finished product, minus lid (see pic)
>>>
>>> Most of the code is just opensource OS for the Raspberry Pi. I
imagine
>>> there's a proprietary USB driver for the injector and
controller software..
>>> big deal.
>>> You're already paying over a grand for the CMM5 injector itself..
>>> Charging that much for what amounts to a glorified homebrew
management
>>> solution is a bit insulting.
>>>
>>> ...and the only reason I opened it, was because something was
rattling
>>> inside as we took it out of the packaging. I opened it up to
find the 5VDC
>>> connector just dangling, not connected to the Pi. A drop of
hot glue could
>>> have fixed that. Hell, I hot-snot the crap out of all my
Arduino projects by
>>> default, to keep this shit from happening.
>>>
>>>
>>> Vlad
>>>
>>> On 2/17/2017 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You couldn't write the software for it for $100.
>>>>
>>>> Are you looking at a prototype or a finished product? Link?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>> From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>> Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?
>>>>
>>>>> No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a bit more um..
>>>>> rugged. I can build this for about $100.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Vlad
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just like you, they're in business to make money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>>>> From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
>>>>>> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>>>>> Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller, a DC-DC
regulator, and a
>>>>>>> metal box?
>>>>>>> Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with LuCI web
interface, and a
>>>>>>> module to control the CMM5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems a bit steep, no?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> peace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vlad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

Yup. Pi 3, 2015 edition. You can plug in HDMI and watch it boot.


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 1:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

LOL it literally is a Pi.  I thought you were talking relatively.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:


This is a finished product, minus lid (see pic)

Most of the code is just opensource OS for the Raspberry Pi. I
imagine there's a proprietary USB driver for the injector and
controller software.. big deal.
You're already paying over a grand for the CMM5 injector itself..
Charging that much for what amounts to a glorified homebrew
management solution is a bit insulting.

...and the only reason I opened it, was because something was
rattling inside as we took it out of the packaging. I opened it up
to find the 5VDC connector just dangling, not connected to the Pi.
A drop of hot glue could have fixed that. Hell, I hot-snot the
crap out of all my Arduino projects by default, to keep this shit
from happening.


Vlad


On 2/17/2017 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

You couldn't write the software for it for $100.

Are you looking at a prototype or a finished product? Link?



-- Original Message --
    From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a bit
more um.. rugged. I can build this for about $100.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make money.


-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious,
Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller, a
DC-DC regulator, and a metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with LuCI web
interface, and a module to control the CMM5.

Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

I imagine you can, unless they somehow encrypt the image, and modify the 
bootloader on the Pi.



Vlad


On 2/17/2017 11:39 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
Could you just take the SD card out, clone it, then put it into 
another Pi and make your own cheap Cambium controller?


On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Brian Sullivan 
<installe...@foxvalley.net <mailto:installe...@foxvalley.net>> wrote:


At least they are using the highest quality electronics here!!!

On 2/17/2017 11:11 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

This is a finished product, minus lid (see pic)

Most of the code is just opensource OS for the Raspberry Pi. I
imagine there's a proprietary USB driver for the injector and
controller software.. big deal.
You're already paying over a grand for the CMM5 injector
itself.. Charging that much for what amounts to a glorified
homebrew management solution is a bit insulting.

...and the only reason I opened it, was because something was
rattling inside as we took it out of the packaging. I opened
it up to find the 5VDC connector just dangling, not connected
to the Pi. A drop of hot glue could have fixed that. Hell, I
hot-snot the crap out of all my Arduino projects by default,
to keep this shit from happening.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

You couldn't write the software for it for $100.

Are you looking at a prototype or a finished product? Link?



-- Original Message --
    From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious,
Cambium?

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a bit
more um.. rugged. I can build this for about $100.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make money.


-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>"
<af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you
serious, Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller, a
DC-DC regulator, and a metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with LuCI
web interface, and a module to control the CMM5.

Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

The only reason we got this is to properly sync our Medusa APs from the 
base of the tower, and maintain a clean gigabit ethernet link.
If Forrest had a product that did the same thing, we would be all over 
it. Literally every other piece of GPS sync hardware we use is from 
PacketFlux.



Vlad


On 2/17/2017 11:09 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
You could also buy all the parts to do the same thing with PacketFlux 
gear for a whole lot less than $800... I don't think the actual cost 
of building the hardware has much to do with the price of a CMM


On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:


You couldn't write the software for it for $100.

Are you looking at a prototype or a finished product? Link?



-- Original Message --
    From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/17/2017 11:53:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a bit more
um.. rugged. I can build this for about $100.


Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make money.


-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller, a DC-DC
regulator, and a metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with LuCI web
interface, and a module to control the CMM5.

Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

No doubt, but for $800, I would expect something a bit more um.. rugged. 
I can build this for about $100.



Vlad

On 2/17/2017 10:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Just like you, they're in business to make money.


-- Original Message --
From: "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 2/17/2017 10:31:01 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller, a DC-DC regulator, and a 
metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with LuCI web interface, and a 
module to control the CMM5.


Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad

[AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

[Vlad Sedov]

$700-900 for a $35 Raspberry Pi controller, a DC-DC regulator, and a 
metal box?
Looks like OpenWRT-type Linux distro with LuCI web interface, and a 
module to control the CMM5.


Seems a bit steep, no?


peace

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit PowerInjector+Sync and 450m

[Vlad Sedov]

Just tried it.. I've not had much luck getting it to work with Gigabit, 
but it does seem to work with 100Mbps/full just fine.


We do have a SyncBox though, so I guess we'll chuck it up on the tower 
so it can feed the 450i and the medusas.



Vlad


On 1/31/2017 12:19 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
I have three 450m's hooked up to a gigabit syncinjector and they are 
all receiving sync.


packetflux no longer sells the gigabit syncinjector so at the other 
tower i'm about to install the gigabit powerinjector+sync that 
replaced it.


I know forest says it won't work but i have proof otherwise. ;-)

have you made sure that sync is enabled for the ports??

-sean


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:


Hey peeps. Has anyone been able to successfully pass sync to
Medusa from the gigabit PowerInjector+Sync?
I have all the power dip switches set correctly, as far as I know.
Radio boots, holds GigE just fine, just won't receive the timing
pulse. The yellow light on the injector blinks once every second,
so I assume it's getting the pulse from the SyncPipe.

thanks!

Vlad

[AFMUG] Gigabit PowerInjector+Sync and 450m

[Vlad Sedov]

Hey peeps. Has anyone been able to successfully pass sync to Medusa from 
the gigabit PowerInjector+Sync?
I have all the power dip switches set correctly, as far as I know. Radio 
boots, holds GigE just fine, just won't receive the timing pulse. The 
yellow light on the injector blinks once every second, so I assume it's 
getting the pulse from the SyncPipe.


thanks!

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] Booting a 450 SM off an AP

[Vlad Sedov]

Tools/Sessions, pick from drop-down, drop selected session.


peace

Vlad


On 1/31/2017 8:58 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
Is there a way (http or command line) from the AP to boot an SM off 
and force it to rescan?  I have a couple sm's that have stopped 
responding, but are still passing traffic.  Normally I just Reboot the 
AP and when they re-register everything is good.  Is there a way to 
force the SM to re-register without rebooting the AP?  Similar to the 
EPMP 'deregister' button?

Re: [AFMUG] Cat5e Patch Cables

[Vlad Sedov]

+1.
We've bought hundreds of cat6 patch cables from monoprice. Have yet to 
see one fail due to anything other than physical damage.




Vlad

On 1/18/2017 3:07 PM, Josh Baird wrote:

Monoprice?

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Matt > wrote:


Anyone know a cheap source of cat5e patch cables?

Re: [AFMUG] PowerInjector+sync and the 450m

[Vlad Sedov]

Ha, what an odd setup. Thanks for the info!


Vlad

On 1/13/2017 5:39 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I believe the 450m is like the 450i. Doesn't matter what polarity each 
pair is. Just two pairs negative and two pairs positive. However, as 
Forrest pointed out recently, you MUST have -4/5 & +7/8 for 
sync-over-power aka "Canopy Sync" to work. And I believe Cambium said 
the 450m uses "Cambium Sync" (whatever that is, I still don't know), 
but Sean said the 450m's he has in the air are receiving sync over 
power just fine.


On 1/13/2017 3:31 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Thanks, George. I thought that might be the case, but wasn't sure..
What would be the polarity on the 1/2 and 3/6 pairs?


cheers

Vlad

On 1/13/2017 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:
It needs power on all four pairs. The default is -4/5 +7/8. So you 
need to put power on 1/2 and 3/6, too. Open the case. There's a 
diagram printed on the left side of the board. And yes, there are 
spare jumpers already there on each port.


On 1/13/2017 3:07 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Howdy folks (and Forrest, in particular!)

Can the gigabit PowerInjector+sync gadget be used to power the 
450m? We tried it once with the default Canopy configuration and 
the 50V power supply, but it acted sketchy and wouldn't survive a 
reboot..


The sticker on the powerinjector mentions a manual on the website, 
but I've not been able to find it.


cheers,

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] PowerInjector+sync and the 450m

[Vlad Sedov]

Thanks, George. I thought that might be the case, but wasn't sure..
What would be the polarity on the 1/2 and 3/6 pairs?


cheers

Vlad

On 1/13/2017 3:22 PM, George Skorup wrote:
It needs power on all four pairs. The default is -4/5 +7/8. So you 
need to put power on 1/2 and 3/6, too. Open the case. There's a 
diagram printed on the left side of the board. And yes, there are 
spare jumpers already there on each port.


On 1/13/2017 3:07 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Howdy folks (and Forrest, in particular!)

Can the gigabit PowerInjector+sync gadget be used to power the 450m? 
We tried it once with the default Canopy configuration and the 50V 
power supply, but it acted sketchy and wouldn't survive a reboot..


The sticker on the powerinjector mentions a manual on the website, 
but I've not been able to find it.


cheers,

Vlad

[AFMUG] PowerInjector+sync and the 450m

[Vlad Sedov]

Howdy folks (and Forrest, in particular!)

Can the gigabit PowerInjector+sync gadget be used to power the 450m? We 
tried it once with the default Canopy configuration and the 50V power 
supply, but it acted sketchy and wouldn't survive a reboot..


The sticker on the powerinjector mentions a manual on the website, but 
I've not been able to find it.


cheers,

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] 450m , No News is Good News?

[Vlad Sedov]

Just got our first unit today.. Will have it up next week, with at least 
100 potential SMs facing it.



Vlad


On 12/7/2016 1:36 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
So, more then a month out and no 450M operator with raving reviews? Is 
this a dud?


*//*

*/Gino Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP repair

[Vlad Sedov]

Oh, awesome! I could've swore Frank told me you guys don't repair them..
How much do you charge per unit?

Thanks Paul


Vlad


On 10/18/2016 3:20 PM, Paul McCall wrote:

We do them VLAD

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Vlad Sedov
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP repair

Hey folks. Does anyone repair GPS-enabled ePMP-1000 units?

cheers


vlad

[AFMUG] ePMP repair

[Vlad Sedov]

Hey folks. Does anyone repair GPS-enabled ePMP-1000 units?

cheers


vlad

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

[Vlad Sedov]

We've been running Freeside for the last 10 years. It takes a bit of 
perl and linux knowledge to get it running (or just download the VM), 
but hey, what do you want for nothing?


Feature-wise, freeside is on par with the big boys these days.. Can't 
think of anything it doesn't have that an ISP billing system should have.

The new version even has tower coverage mapping... very WISP-friendly.


peace

Vlad


On 9/16/2016 12:50 AM, TJ Trout wrote:


Could I trouble you all for a quick survey / recommendation on billing 
systems?


I've been looking at;

Power code ( seems like too many red flags with this company)

Platypus ( good price, but I don't want to become a dev just to bill 
my customers)


Visp seems like a decent option?

Wisp Mon? Don't know much about them, prices seem high, haven't heard 
anything bad so that's a good sign?


Swift fox? ( Seems like unpopular option maybe because they're new?)

Sonar? Maybe that's the one?

Re: [AFMUG] 450 Contention Slots

[Vlad Sedov]

The frame utilization tab makes it pretty easy. Just make sure 
contention slots under uplink counts doesn't stay close to max possible 
contention count.



Vlad


On 6/14/2016 3:03 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/bstrc49894/attachments/bstrc49894/forums_pmp_450/1799/1/SP_PMP_450_Contention_Slots.pdf

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc > wrote:


Freaking balancing act.  I should just be an engineer.

How are you handling the 450 contention slots to subs.

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

[Vlad Sedov]

Do these 430 APs have to be functional?


Vlad

On 6/9/2016 3:13 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:


It’s for PMP 450 and PMP 430 Access Points only.

You trade in an AP for $400 credit toward purchase of a 450i AP.

You cannot stack them (i.e. trade in multiple APs to combine the 
credit toward a single 450i AP).


Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
*Sent:* Thursday, June 09, 2016 3:03 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 430 Trade in program

Anyone have info on this?  i.e what sort of trade in credit they are 
giving, is it only 430 APs and not SMs?  Can you trade in multiple 430 
APs for credit on a single 450i? etc


http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/news-events/450i-trade-up/

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP

[Vlad Sedov]

That looks about like a couple of ours.. 30-40Mb peaks... and this is on 
20MHz channels.


We have around 30 APs deployed, and about 300 SMs. Adding new ones every 
day. We've had pretty good luck with ePMP, with a few exceptions...
If you have a bridge-looped client, it wreaks havoc on the network even 
with STP enabled, until you disable the client radio.
GPS-synced units don't have very good built-in surge protection 
comparing to Canopy. We've had complete loss of ePMP units on a tower 
while the 450's and FSK's were chirping away right next to them (this is 
with shielded cable and surge suppression).
Channel reuse works as advertised, as long as the antennas have proper 
f/b ratio. I do wish they were able to talk a little louder on 5.4GHz 
DFS band though.


pretty pleased so far, considering the price.


Vlad


On 6/2/2016 2:49 PM, Josh Baird wrote:

This is our most loaded 5Ghz ePMP AP:

Inline image 1

Inline image 2

Users on this AP have plans from 1.5-10Mbps.

I think it averages 70-80% of downlink frame usage during peak times, 
but I don't have a graph available because Cambium won't expose this 
as a percentage via SNMP (you have to look at the real-time value in 
the web UI).


On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
> wrote:


we are moving to epmp for cheap in 5ghz, the most populated ap
only has like 12 users on 12/2 plans up to 8 miles, I dont see it
scaling well compared to 450, but much better than the ubnt could
ever dream. Its sync lets us do ABAB with no notable hit yet.
3ghz we are moving to 450 from a mix of ubnt shit and 320 garbage
(though the 320 has been a beast) because the 1x gets us the edge
of nlos

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Josh Luthman
>
wrote:

PMP450 is better.  It will win the interference war.  It will
offer a bit better bits/hz.  If the revenue supports it, use it.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Matt
> wrote:

We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed.  Some Ubiquiti
we tried and
some we inherited as well.  Have some ePMP we have tested
but so far
have not deployed more then couple test links.

For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the
differences
you have seen in performance? Interference tolerance among
others?

For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what was
the reasoning?





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see

your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
the team.

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

[Vlad Sedov]

+1.

Not quite the price of a RB750, but performs very well. Has 5 Gig and 5 
100Mbps ports.


Vlad

On 4/25/2016 11:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Rb2011

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 25, 2016 12:42 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> wrote:


i need something similar to an rb750, but with more ports.  eight
ports would be good, 10 would be great.
whats out there?

Re: [AFMUG] Battery pack and wifi

[Vlad Sedov]

We made a couple of homebrew kits -- basically mAP2n attached to an 18v 
lithium drill battery pack, with a radio pigtail and polarity switch (so 
it works with UBNT and Cambium).


As far as being able to access radio IPs, that's really easy - add 
several IPs on the radio-facing Ethernet interface to match your 
favorite address schemes, and masquerade tablet to radio traffic.
We have ours also set up to connect with PPPoE, so you can get on the 
internet at the same time.



Vlad

On 4/21/2016 9:09 AM, Roland Houin wrote:

we have a couple of them.
they work fine, except the smaller one won't power a canopy 3.65sm
the larger one seems to work fine..
Roland
> Anyone using these or have another US based version?
http://www.gevaelettronica.it/shop/index.php?id_product=1=product_
lang=2

I am looking for something the installers can tune Epmp with using 
tablets or
phones. Not sure how I would deal with different IP structures based 
on the

tower they are installing on but I bet you guys have ideas on thatas well.

Best regards,
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
www.gogebicrange.net 
<

Re: [AFMUG] WTS couple FSK radios

[Vlad Sedov]

You almost have to pay someone to haul off FSK crap these days... lol


Vlad


On 4/1/2016 2:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Bump.  Anyone?  Couple bucks?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:


I just want these things gone, just need a decent offer

2x 5750 AP connectorized
3x 5700 SM
2x 2400 SM
1x 900 AP
1x 900 SM

Josh Luthman
Office:937-552-2340 
Direct:937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

[AFMUG] The new 450 beta and TDWR

[Vlad Sedov]

Hey folks.

I noticed that the TDWR band (5600-5650) is now available.. Are there 
special rules/regulations for using it?


Thanks,

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] The new 450 beta and TDWR

[Vlad Sedov]

We have it on a 450/450i cluster. No problems so far, though too early 
to tell. No bricks, thank Dog.


This build enables the TDWR band (5600-5650) on the 450i, which is why I 
was asking about the rules.. Extra bandwidth is good :D



Vlad

On 3/16/2016 2:02 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:

Has anyone deployed and tested 14.1.2  Build 8 yet? Thoughts?

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:



http://www.wispa.org/Resources/Industry-Resources/TDWR-Resources/TDWR-Locations-and-Frequencies

:-)

Also, some radios are certified in that band and others aren't.



-
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*From: *"Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com
<mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, March 16, 2016 1:06:14 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] The new 450 beta and TDWR



https://community.ubnt.com/t5/Business-Talk/WHT-s-TDWR-Location-and-Frequency-chart/m-p/644009#M34369

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com
<mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

When within 35 km distance of a TDWR, the center frequency of
the WLAN must be separated from the TDWR center frequency by
30 MHz.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:

Hey folks.

I noticed that the TDWR band (5600-5650) is now
available.. Are there special rules/regulations for using it?

Thanks,

Vlad







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Re: [AFMUG] The Dude Issue

[Vlad Sedov]

Hmm, what version of firmware are you running on the UBNTs? I can't even 
get a value from those MIBs through SNMPwalk.

We also run Dude 4.0beta3..


Vlad

On 2/22/2016 11:24 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

I'll try a different type of probe and see if anything changes.  Thanks.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Adam Moffett > wrote:


4.0b3

I also am not using a "function" probe type anywhere.  I do use
the SNMP probe type extensively.


On 2/22/2016 1:52 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Upon searching in the Mikrotik Forums, it looks like this could
be an issue with custom OIDs on the newer versions of the dude. 
What version are you using?


On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Adam Moffett
> wrote:

Try
oid_raw("1.3.6.1.4.1.32050.2.1.27.5.0")

I'm not totally sure what the difference is, other than
sometimes that one works.



On 2/20/2016 8:14 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

I've just started working with using the Dude for
monitoring on the bench, but I'm getting a parse failed
on the probe for a test device.  I've attached an image
showing the function and probe I created.  Any ideas what
I'm doing wrong? Please note that this is just a test
setup using a Ubiquiti AP with no client.  I'm aware that
the noise floor reading is essentially useless and have
no intention of graphing it in a production environment.

-Jason

[AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

[Vlad Sedov]

Hey folks.

Has anyone experimented with 5ms frame on pmp450 or the 450i? Last 
couple of times I tried it, it seemed like overall throughput on the AP 
was slightly worse than on 2.5ms, even though radio to radio link tests 
were higher.



peace

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] 5ms frame on 450

[Vlad Sedov]

Ahhh that explains it.. We shall leave it alone then.


Vlad

On 1/25/2016 9:49 AM, George Skorup wrote:
It was discussed somewhere recently, possibly from the Cambium 
community site. Changing from 2.5 to 5ms cuts the number of control 
slots in half. That could explain your perceived loss in overall 
throughput, i.e. not enough control slots.


And then if you gain say 10% more bandwidth by going to 5ms, then have 
to increase control slots, you probably end up with zero gain in 
throughput and double the latency. So what's the point. If you had to 
synchronize with a wimax system, that's about the only benefit.


On 1/25/2016 9:34 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Hey folks.

Has anyone experimented with 5ms frame on pmp450 or the 450i? Last 
couple of times I tried it, it seemed like overall throughput on the 
AP was slightly worse than on 2.5ms, even though radio to radio link 
tests were higher.



peace

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

[Vlad Sedov]

Hmm, it appears our problem children fit the bill..


vlad

On 1/11/2016 10:28 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

2.6.1rc1 from Sri.

I believe he said the MACs have CE in them (000456 CE)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc <t...@franklinisp.net <mailto:t...@franklinisp.net>> wrote:


What firmware you guys running?

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*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

From what I heard this morning I'm confident.  And surprised it
can be fixed in software.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

    On Jan 11, 2016 10:28 AM, "Vlad Sedov" <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:

That's promising...


Vlad


On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:

No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it
and they have a fix that they're testing.

    On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov
<v...@atlasok.com <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:

I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all
cases. I'm looking at the output of "debug crashlog"
on one of the affected radios, and it does look like
it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a
connector issue. Also, we have a few sites with zero
issues.. Same firmware and everything.


Vlad



On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications
Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?

*Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131
*
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: www.surfici.net <http://www.surfici.net>*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird
<joshba...@gmail.com <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Yes.


http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov
<v...@atlasok.com <mailto:v...@atlasok.com>>
wrote:

Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS
variety) in cold weather? We seem to have
a few units that started randomly locking
up in the middle of the night when temps
are below freezing. Rebooting seems to
clear things up for a day or so.


peace

Vlad

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[AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

[Vlad Sedov]

Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather? We 
seem to have a few units that started randomly locking up in the middle 
of the night when temps are below freezing. Rebooting seems to clear 
things up for a day or so.



peace

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

[Vlad Sedov]

I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm looking 
at the output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected radios, and it 
does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see how it would be a 
connector issue. Also, we have a few sites with zero issues.. Same 
firmware and everything.



Vlad

On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr. **
**Franklin, IN 46131 **
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net* 



Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com 
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Yes.

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:


Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold weather?
We seem to have a few units that started randomly locking up in
the middle of the night when temps are below freezing. Rebooting
seems to clear things up for a day or so.


peace

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP in cold weather

[Vlad Sedov]

That's promising...


Vlad


On 1/11/2016 9:25 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
No... it's not a connector issue. Cambium knows about it and they have 
a fix that they're testing.


On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:


I don't buy the connector thing, at least not in all cases. I'm
looking at the output of "debug crashlog" on one of the affected
radios, and it does look like it's crashing hard. I don't see how
it would be a connector issue. Also, we have a few sites with zero
issues.. Same firmware and everything.


Vlad


On 1/11/2016 9:20 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote:

So is this a cable connector problem?

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr.**
**Franklin, IN 46131**
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net*

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com
<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yes.


http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-1000/Cold-Weather-Issues/m-p/36592#U36592

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:

Hey folks,

Is anyone having trouble with ePMP (GPS variety) in cold
weather? We seem to have a few units that started randomly
locking up in the middle of the night when temps are below
freezing. Rebooting seems to clear things up for a day or so.


peace

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] VMWare Etc

[Vlad Sedov]

oVirt is another alternative.
Completely open source, and backed by Redhat. Arguably more mature 
development-wise than proxmox.. no freemium stuff, and can be controlled 
via shell and web interface. It has remote vm console, backup, 
clustering and all the other junk a decent hypervisor should have.


I've been running a mix of linux and windows vm's for a few months, and 
haven't run into too much trouble.


Vlad

On 12/28/2015 10:32 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


See, this is why I run proxmox though. Debian host, zfs, PV and hvm, 
plus just about every feature I need in my environment... With a 
webUI. Do I have to have the webUI? Absolutely not, but it is 
efficient for my needs.


On Dec 28, 2015 10:29 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" > wrote:


This is just my opinion: Disregard VMWare and use a Linux based
hypervisor with Xen. You can use either PV (paravirtualized) or
HVM (hardware virtualized) guests on the same hypervisor.

My typical hypervisor setup is Debian Jessie AMD64 and the latest
Xen.

Xen is what powers Amazon EC2 and a bunch of other services. It
has a learning curve but is very much worth it. Everything is
free, whether GPL, Apache or BSD licensed.

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Matt > wrote:

Is there a free version of VMWare?  What are limitations vs
paid?  How
do you manage containers?  Does it support software raid?  Does it
have scheduled backup capabilities?  How does it compare to
Proxmox?

I have a few linux centos servers: directadmin, email, DNS,
speedtest,
mysql database and box running lots of perl scripts to monitor my
network.  Would like to move them all to data center on one
box and a
second box there to shove backups on.

Re: [AFMUG] Enabling Auto Update with 14.1.1 on 430 SM's

[Vlad Sedov]

Speaking of interop mode.. Are there any plans to add 5ms frame option 
to 430 SM's attached to a 450 AP?


Thanks,

Vlad

On 12/8/2015 1:42 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:


Only when the PMP 430 SM is registered to a PMP 450 AP (i.e. 
Interoperability Mode) will this work…


R14.1.1 technically is not supported by PMP 430 in standalone mode. 
However, because we know there are still networks that have PMP 430 
SMs interoperating (with 450), we made this function properly.


You are correct, using a 430 AP will not push this release to any devices.

Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2015 1:23 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Enabling Auto Update with 14.1.1 on 430 SM's

That s the thing, I don't want to upgrade the AP to 14.1.1 just the 
SM's, Auto update in CNUT version 4.9.x doesn't like to push the file 
through the AP.


On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Matt Mangriotis 
> wrote:


It means that the 430 SM is supported when they’re talking to a
450 AP (Interoperability Mode only).

The PMP 430 AP will not take R14.1.1.

Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2015 1:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Enabling Auto Update with 14.1.1 on 430 SM's

Thanks Matt. So what does this mean then?


  Customers running PMP 430 SMs in PMP 450 interoperability
  mode, please use the PMP 450 CNUT pkg3 file found here
  . Note
  the linked file is for 14.1.1

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Matt Mangriotis
> wrote:

Sam – R14.1.1 is not supported by PMP 430.

The PMP 430 SM are only supported when connected to PMP 450 AP
(i.e. Interoperability mode).  Also, make sure you’re using
the latest CNUT (available on the support site).

Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2015 12:20 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Enabling Auto Update with 14.1.1 on 430 SM's

Hey all,

I want to update my 430 SM's from a 430 AP to 14.1.1 via the
Autoupdate function in CNUT. However, I get an error No update
package available.

Is there a work around without updating the AP to 14.1.1 1st?
Or do I have to scan for all the SM's manually and upgrade
them that way?

Sam



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Re: [AFMUG] ISP Billing and Ticketing System

[Vlad Sedov]

haters gonna hate :D

vlad

On 11/5/2015 8:01 PM, David Milholen wrote:

Freeside :)

Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN

[Vlad Sedov]

This happens via the IPSec policy, as long as source and destination 
match. Don't forget the srcnat accept rule from local net to remote, and 
place it above all other nat rules.



Vlad

On 11/4/2015 4:46 PM, Tyler Treat wrote:



Following up on this -
Got the tunnel up, but in the Tik, where do I point my local subnet to 
send the traffic across the tunnel?
for example is 10.x.x.x is across the tunnel, where do i tell the Tik 
to send that traffic.





*From:* Af  on behalf of Josh Luthman 


*Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 8:57 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN

Read the wiki page on it to get the values all married up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 30, 2015 9:47 AM, "Tyler Treat" > wrote:


Any gotchas when doing a Tik to Cisco ASA VPN?
Known issues?

___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com 
___

Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN

[Vlad Sedov]

No need to create any routes on Tik if you're doing a standard IPSec 
tunnel... Unless you do end to end encrypt with EoIP on top or something



Vlad

On 11/4/2015 4:51 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


IP route

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 4, 2015 5:46 PM, "Tyler Treat" > wrote:



Following up on this -
Got the tunnel up, but in the Tik, where do I point my local
subnet to send the traffic across the tunnel?
for example is 10.x.x.x is across the tunnel, where do i tell the
Tik to send that traffic.




*From:* Af > on
behalf of Josh Luthman >
*Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 8:57 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN

Read the wiki page on it to get the values all married up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 30, 2015 9:47 AM, "Tyler Treat"
> wrote:

Any gotchas when doing a Tik to Cisco ASA VPN?
Known issues?

___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com 
___

Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN

[Vlad Sedov]

So you have 10/8 on one end and 10.11.160/24 on the other? Yeah that 
could get messy..


Vlad


On 11/4/2015 5:11 PM, Tyler Treat wrote:


well i think we're gonna have an issue.

10.11.160.0 is the local, everything else 10.x.x.x is at the other end.

Not sure how to address that with the nat rule.

Almost need to have a 172.x to provide some separation


*From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Vlad Sedov 
<v...@atlasok.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 4, 2015 4:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN
This happens via the IPSec policy, as long as source and destination 
match. Don't forget the srcnat accept rule from local net to remote, 
and place it above all other nat rules.



Vlad

On 11/4/2015 4:46 PM, Tyler Treat wrote:



Following up on this -�
Got the tunnel up, but in the Tik, where do I point my local subnet 
to send the traffic across the tunnel?
for example is 10.x.x.x is across the tunnel, where do i tell the Tik 
to send that traffic.





*From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>

*Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 8:57 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN
�

Read the wiki page on it to get the values all married up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 30, 2015 9:47 AM, "Tyler Treat" <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com 
<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>> wrote:


Any gotchas when doing a Tik to Cisco ASA VPN?
Known issues?

___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com <mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
___

Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN

[Vlad Sedov]

You can use address lists on nat rules, but not on ipsec policies.
It would be easier if both ends were Tiks, so you could just do 
transport mode and EoIP tunnel in between, and just set static routes 
back and forth.


I would re-number the smaller net.. Maybe there's some other kung-fu 
that might work, like 1-to-1 NAT on the Tik, but that's a back-asswards 
solution.



Vlad


On 11/4/2015 5:18 PM, Tyler Treat wrote:

Yeah.  I sorta inherited it.

Would it be feasible to build an address list of all the subnets 
*except* the 10.11.160.x and tell it "this list is across the tunnel"?


___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com <mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
___


On Nov 4, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Vlad Sedov <v...@atlasok.com 
<mailto:v...@atlasok.com>> wrote:


So you have 10/8 on one end and 10.11.160/24 on the other? Yeah that 
could get messy..


Vlad


On 11/4/2015 5:11 PM, Tyler Treat wrote:


well i think we're gonna have an issue.

10.11.160.0 is the local, everything else 10.x.x.x is at the other 
end. ��


Not sure how to address that with the nat rule. �

Almost need to have a 172.x to provide some separation


*From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Vlad Sedov 
<v...@atlasok.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, November 4, 2015 4:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN
�
This happens via the IPSec policy, as long as source and destination 
match. Don't forget the srcnat accept rule from local net to remote, 
and place it above all other nat rules.



Vlad

On 11/4/2015 4:46 PM, Tyler Treat wrote:



Following up on this -�
Got the tunnel up, but in the Tik, where do I point my local subnet 
to send the traffic across the tunnel?
for example is 10.x.x.x is across the tunnel, where do i tell the 
Tik to send that traffic.





*From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>

*Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2015 8:57 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Cisco VPN
�

Read the wiki page on it to get the values all married up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 30, 2015 9:47 AM, "Tyler Treat" 
<tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com 
<mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>> wrote:


Any gotchas when doing a Tik to Cisco ASA VPN?
Known issues?

___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___

Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com <mailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
___

Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?

[Vlad Sedov]

We started deploying Mikrotik hap lites.. They're less than $20.. wifi 
range is good.
The best thing about them (and mikrotik routers in general) is that they 
can be programmed with a custom factory default configuration. It's nigh 
impossible for the customer to mess it up.


We have our 'tiks scripted in such a way that even after a reset, the 
router will connect with a limited pppoe connection, making it easy for 
our support techs to finish setting it up, saving the customer a 
potential trip to the office, or a truck roll for us. We also have them 
set up with a limited username that hides 90% of all the advanced 
features of the router, so it's more difficult for the customer to shoot 
themselves in the foot.
One other nifty feature is the ability to integrate the router with the 
billing system. As long as the mac address of the router is tied to the 
account, the router pretty much configures itself as soon as it's 
deployed. username, password, ssid, and WPA key can all be pushed at the 
same time.


config scripts are designed in such a way that they will work with most 
of the CPE-type mikrotik routers, so if a hap lite is too small, we 
could set up a 951 in a similar fashion.



Vlad

On 10/7/2015 9:22 PM, Work wrote:
A mikrotik or AirRouter are the only 2 good options now days in the 
low price range heard good things about netgear NightHawk but too 
pricey if you want something cheap easy to config good range and it 
have to ability to do anything your SM's can and be able to monitor 
them just like a SM go with AirRouter if you want something bit more 
pricey harder for end user to config but be able to debug anything 
without driving out there go with mikrotik... If you want to just tell 
them buy something from the store tell them get a netgear NightHawk



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On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:43 PM, Bill Prince > wrote:


I (for one) think you're wrong. But I pretty much loath most
things apple, so there's that. I spent almost an hour with an
experienced apple user (and an uber geek) trying to find a log
file on an AirPort, but they keep removing features from the
AirPort. The AirPort is probably running a stripped-down version
of IOS, but it's pretty opaque from my perspective. Why it can't
be a simple web GUI like everyone else on the planet is beyond me.
Plus the look & feel changes with almost every new release. Makes
it pretty much impossible to talk someone through it over the phone.

PITA POS if you ask me.

bp


On 10/7/2015 2:48 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:

I think the app isn't very good, but the tool on a PC or Mac is
really good, intuitive, and works well.  I see the app as a web
GUI on steroids. It just works. I think the more you play with it
the more features you realize it has. I think a lot of my
counterparts here on this list just don't like it because it's
Apple, but I could be wrong.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Oct 7, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:


Totally true. Apple makes an AirPort tool of sorts for Windows,
but it sucks major bronto.

What's even worse is trying to admin an AirPort from an ipad.

bp


On 10/7/2015 11:21 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

My guys hate the Apple routers because they can’t be configured
from a web GUI, you need the AirPort software on your
computer.  At least that’s what they tell me.
*From:* Brett A Mansfield 
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Consumer routers?
For my customers that want me to sell them or manage their
solution I charge an extra $25 install fee and $5/mo. I use
edgerouters as the router and an airport express in bridge mode
for the wireless. I can throw on as many of the airports as
needed to get the job done for an extra fee.
It works really well. I haven't had any customer complaint with
it. They don't have to power cycle anything ever either.
I buy the airport express in bulk refurbished direct from
Apple. If they don't have them refurbished I just buy new, but
that hasn't happened yet.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Sterling Jacobson
 wrote:


This is my biggest gripe right now.

The more internet you provide to them, the worse this problem is.

I think my contractors are selling mid-range $100 linksys routers.

I’m not sure that’s the best thing.

I too need to find a handful of routers that really get the
job done right.

I’ve noticed the Apple routers tend to be pretty good,
especially if they have Apple Ecosystem/devices.

And apple extenders 

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

[Vlad Sedov]

Is it more expensive than Freeside?

ehheh


Vlad

On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
I'll be sharing stuff on the list, forum and blog as time goes on. 
Nothing just yet, but we are bringing the first few early access 
participants in who won't be in NDA, so they are free to share 
anything they want as well.


No, it's all original code built on completely different technology 
than Powercode was. It's a very different platform.


On 9/29/2015 10:35 AM, Steve wrote:
Can we get any more details?  Screen shots?  Etas?  Roadmaps?  Like 
is this a fork of Powercode or from the ground up?


- Original Message -
From: "Simon Westlake" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:04:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

I don't dare ask which part.

On 9/29/2015 9:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Reminds me of Silicon Valley.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM, "Lewis Bergman" > wrote:

 Maybe he got good advice from a lawyer. I am not one but my
 understanding is that a noncompete can't be so broad as to prevent
 future employment, which moving out of the country would definably
 qualify as.


 On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 9:19 AM Keefe John > wrote:

 Maybe he's operating from a moonbase...or russia.

 On 9/29/2015 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
 > Wonder how Simon is getting around Bertram's 5000 mile non
 compete
 > exclusion zone?
 >
 > -Original Message- From: Keefe John
 > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 8:14 AM
 > To: Animal Farm
 > Subject: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
 >
 > This website just popped up today.  The product looks very
 exciting!
 > I can't wait to find out more about it.
 >
 > https://sonar.software/
 >
 > https://sonar.community/t/announcing-sonar/30
 >
 >
 > Keefe John
 > Ethoplex
 >

Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

[Vlad Sedov]

BASIC.


Vlad

On 9/29/2015 11:02 AM, Steve wrote:

I was hoping it was FORTRAN

- Original Message -
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:52:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

We've all seen Simon's work.  It'll be extremely attractive HTML5 from
libraries.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:


It's probably all written in Java...

bp



On 9/29/2015 8:38 AM, Steve wrote:


So no PHP then.. :)

- Original Message -
From: "Simon Westlake" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:37:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

I'll be sharing stuff on the list, forum and blog as time goes on.
Nothing just yet, but we are bringing the first few early access
participants in who won't be in NDA, so they are free to share anything
they want as well.

No, it's all original code built on completely different technology than
Powercode was. It's a very different platform.

On 9/29/2015 10:35 AM, Steve wrote:


Can we get any more details?  Screen shots?  Etas?  Roadmaps?  Like is
this a fork of Powercode or from the ground up?

- Original Message -
From: "Simon Westlake" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:04:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar

I don't dare ask which part.

On 9/29/2015 9:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Reminds me of Silicon Valley.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM, "Lewis Bergman" > wrote:

   Maybe he got good advice from a lawyer. I am not one but my
   understanding is that a noncompete can't be so broad as to prevent
   future employment, which moving out of the country would definably
   qualify as.


   On Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 9:19 AM Keefe John > wrote:

   Maybe he's operating from a moonbase...or russia.

   On 9/29/2015 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
   > Wonder how Simon is getting around Bertram's 5000 mile non
   compete
   > exclusion zone?
   >
   > -Original Message- From: Keefe John
   > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 8:14 AM
   > To: Animal Farm
   > Subject: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
   >
   > This website just popped up today.  The product looks very
   exciting!
   > I can't wait to find out more about it.
   >
   > https://sonar.software/
   >
   > https://sonar.community/t/announcing-sonar/30
   >
   >
   > Keefe John
   > Ethoplex
   >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Enable Remote Desktop on Windows 7 Home Premium.

[Vlad Sedov]

https://www.raymond.cc/blog/enable-remote-desktop-connection-in-windows-7-home-premium/
This works the best. Just re-apply the patch if an update wipes it out.


Vlad

On 8/17/2015 10:18 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I need a hack/work around to enable remote desktop access to a 
computer with Windows 7 Home Premium.  I've seen a few in my research 
but not sure which is best.

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

[Vlad Sedov]

Having lived around Soviet RFs for many years, I can tell you first hand 
that they are the laziest RFs with the worst work ethic.



Vlad

On 8/12/2015 12:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

We don't need any stinkin' commie RF!

Добрий День товарищ!

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com 
mailto:sleb...@muskoka.com wrote:


Nyet, Tovarich.  Superior SOVIET RF works four times as hard as
any lazy capitalist RF, and without exploiting the proletariat
photons.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:22 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

not to worry Comrade   RF is universal


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390 tel:915-861-1390

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:52 AM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com
mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

Cambium is using a new receiver on the 450APs that does
GPS+GLONASS. I assume it's from Global-Top, but I haven't opened
up a new AP to look. I'm not real excited about using the Russian
signals, but with so many satellites available, it does acquire
lock very fast. Have you thought about doing the same for your
'Pipes? I think it would be beneficial.

On 8/12/2015 5:34 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

Ok, if you really want to know, I finally found a (somewhat
data) document which describes this in semi-understandable terms.

And yes, the real time does fall out of the equations (see
watch error - which is how fast or slow your reference clock is).

http://www.maa.org/sites/default/files/pdf/cms_upload/Thompson07734.pdf

What I'm hearing from my GPS module vendor is effectively that
since they don't really have to do any additional work to
output a 1PPS signal from a 3d lock, they feel comfortable in
doing so.   Adding the complexity of surveying an location to
an useful accuracy and then using that to compute the time is
a lot of additional work with a lot of variability they don't
want to try to deal with without additional demand.   I do
know that a while back we tried some shortcuts to get there,
but they were not all that useful.

-forrest

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Sean Heskett
af...@zirkel.us mailto:af...@zirkel.us wrote:

the satellites are constantly moving tho and since they are
moving faster in orbit than we are here on earth you need to
account for relativity.  knowing where you are doesn't give
you enough information to know where the satellite is and
therefore you can't accurately calculate the relativity
offset.  once you have 3D lock with 4 satellites you can
accurately calculate the relativity offset and therefore
calculate the accurate time for where you are on earth.

shoulda taken the blue pill ;-)

-Sean

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Bill Prince
part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:

That's what I thought too. Once one of these little beggars
has been online for a half hour or more, the location should
be set so to speak. I would then expect them to hold time
sync even with 1 satellite in view. Knowing that the location
is static and unmoving, I would expect that maintaining time
lock would be gravy.

Sadly, this does not seem to be the case.


bp

part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

  


On 8/11/2015 10:48 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Interesting, I guess you need to know where you are to
calculate the delay.  Had not considered that.  But if you
know where you are and have ephermis data, you should be
able to calculate the delay and arrive at a pretty
accurate timing pulse with one satellite.

*From:*Forrest Christian (List Account)
mailto:li...@packetflux.com

*Sent:*Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:39 AM

*To:*af mailto:af@afmug.com

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing

You need an accurate 3d position to get accurate timing.
To have an accurate 3d position using GPS alone, you need
four satellites. Three  only gets you a 2d lock, and less
than that you don't get a lock at all.

There are receivers out there which will survey a position
and then use that position to be able to continue to
provide a timing signal if you subsequently lose lock but
still have sats in view.   As far as I know,  this type of
receiver is not in use in any commercially available
timing product for the cambium radios. In fact I think
we've almost all ended up 

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina not displaying remote side info

[Vlad Sedov]

Yup, they talk to each other via IP. We ran into the same thing with our 
SAFs.. Kinda silly, I think.


Vlad

On 8/7/2015 3:31 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Aligning a SAF link, its up, passing traffic, just neither side is 
displaying the remote info, config is thesame as our other saf link 
that it is displaying, with the exception that the working one both 
radios are on the same subnet, this one they are on serarate /30. do 
the pull remote side data via ip, or am i missing something here


--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing on? LOL

[Vlad Sedov]

Dang it, you made me look at my mail server logs just to make sure it 
wasn't on our end! Shame on you...

heheh

vlad

On 7/30/2015 4:53 AM, Paul McCall wrote:


My apologies to the AFMUG subscribers this AM.

I just noticed this AM that the AFMUG list was not getting fresh 
messages.  Turns out, our credit card info had changed some time ago, 
and the AWS messages about the account went into a SPAM filter.


It�s all straightened now, and we regret the inconvenience this may 
have caused the group, either practical or emotional J


I thought about blaming Windows 10, Obama, Donald Trump or Planned 
Parenthood J


Paul

Paul McCall, Pres.

PDMNet / Florida Broadband

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800 office

772-473-0352 cell

www.pdmnet.com http://www.pdmnet.com/

pa...@pdmnet.net mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] mounting AF5X to tower (non UBNT dish)

[Vlad Sedov]

Right.. It's a pretty snug fit though, and there's no chance of the 
radio escaping the bracket. Also, the top cover fits perfectly over the 
radio, protecting the RF connectors, and keeping the top of radio in place.


I wouldn't put it on a railroad bridge, but hanging off a tower, it 
would be just fine.


Vlad

On 7/7/2015 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


That's the only mounting point then right?  No tabs or nubs?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 7, 2015 5:16 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com 
mailto:v...@atlasok.com wrote:


right... the threaded bit on the Force dish.


Vlad

On 7/7/2015 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Mounting bracket?  You mean the nub for the back of epmp radios?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 7, 2015 5:05 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com
mailto:v...@atlasok.com wrote:

We mounted a pair of AF5X radios to Cambium Force dishes.
They work quite well.. With a bit of effort, you could even
get the mounting screw to go into the mounting bracket.


Vlad

On 7/7/2015 3:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

What have people been doing to mount the AF5X radio when
using a generic, non Ubiquiti dish?  So there is no
Rocket bracket to clip it to?  In this case I am
replacing some old Trango 5010 PTP radios and using the
existing Radiowaves dishes.

There's a place on the back of the radio that you could
pass a hoseclamp through, but that doesn't seem right,
especially since the ground screw sticks out too far for
that to work well.

Photos anyone?

Re: [AFMUG] mounting AF5X to tower (non UBNT dish)

[Vlad Sedov]

The grounding screw lines up with the mount point on the Force dish.
You can actually turn the radio and thread the ground screw into the 
bracket. You can add a grounding wire in there as well.. The only 
problem is that it makes radio replacement more difficult once it's on a 
tower. There are probably ways to overcome this, but it's simple enough 
to assemble another Force dish on the ground and replace the whole thing



Vlad


On 7/7/2015 4:06 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

Remove the grounding screw with a 2mm ? allen

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com 
mailto:v...@atlasok.com wrote:


We mounted a pair of AF5X radios to Cambium Force dishes. They
work quite well.. With a bit of effort, you could even get the
mounting screw to go into the mounting bracket.


Vlad


On 7/7/2015 3:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

What have people been doing to mount the AF5X radio when using
a generic, non Ubiquiti dish?  So there is no Rocket bracket
to clip it to?  In this case I am replacing some old Trango
5010 PTP radios and using the existing Radiowaves dishes.

There's a place on the back of the radio that you could pass a
hoseclamp through, but that doesn't seem right, especially
since the ground screw sticks out too far for that to work well.

Photos anyone?

Re: [AFMUG] mounting AF5X to tower (non UBNT dish)

[Vlad Sedov]

We mounted a pair of AF5X radios to Cambium Force dishes. They work 
quite well.. With a bit of effort, you could even get the mounting screw 
to go into the mounting bracket.



Vlad

On 7/7/2015 3:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
What have people been doing to mount the AF5X radio when using a 
generic, non Ubiquiti dish?  So there is no Rocket bracket to clip it 
to?  In this case I am replacing some old Trango 5010 PTP radios and 
using the existing Radiowaves dishes.


There's a place on the back of the radio that you could pass a 
hoseclamp through, but that doesn't seem right, especially since the 
ground screw sticks out too far for that to work well.


Photos anyone?

Re: [AFMUG] mounting AF5X to tower (non UBNT dish)

[Vlad Sedov]

right... the threaded bit on the Force dish.


Vlad

On 7/7/2015 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Mounting bracket?  You mean the nub for the back of epmp radios?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 7, 2015 5:05 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com 
mailto:v...@atlasok.com wrote:


We mounted a pair of AF5X radios to Cambium Force dishes. They
work quite well.. With a bit of effort, you could even get the
mounting screw to go into the mounting bracket.


Vlad

On 7/7/2015 3:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

What have people been doing to mount the AF5X radio when using
a generic, non Ubiquiti dish?  So there is no Rocket bracket
to clip it to?  In this case I am replacing some old Trango
5010 PTP radios and using the existing Radiowaves dishes.

There's a place on the back of the radio that you could pass a
hoseclamp through, but that doesn't seem right, especially
since the ground screw sticks out too far for that to work well.

Photos anyone?

Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

[Vlad Sedov]

Did they fix the UV resistance issue with toughcable? We tried a spool a 
few years back, and the jacket turned into dust pretty quick under the sun..



Vlad


On 7/6/2015 5:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while.  They're nearly 
identical.  I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:


I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their
personal preference.  I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends,
and I'm just looking to see what's out there.  I was using Emerson
Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as
AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone
up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them.  I had some very
early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them.  Are
they worth looking at again?  Anything else to look at?

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4.3 is now available

[Vlad Sedov]

I did a comparison between Canopy and ePMP interface browser memory 
usage. I think ePMP used close to 10 times the RAM, displaying more or 
less the same stuff.
Why couldn't Cambium just stay with the Canopy-style interface? You 
know, the one that pretty much 100% of their userbase is familiar with? 
I realize it runs on a different platform, but it's just a template 
engine..


It's probably UBNT envy. Cheap and shiney, much graph, very GUI. wow.


vlad



On 6/29/2015 4:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Is it really 30 megabytes?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:


This is known by all Cambium that every customer meets these
following Criteria - There are NO exceptions to these rules:
1) Everyone has a 12core laptop for field use.
2) All Customers have Unlimited time to put together Force Dishes.
3) RF Signals will always be perfect to move that 30mb of webdata
across the RF link for diagnostic.


On 6/29/2015 3:46 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

That might be true, but also there were some posts saying your
browser has to download around a bazillion little files for each
page, so it’s inefficient coding from the perspective of client
side processing.  Which would mean fixing it would take a major
revision to how the pages are designed, not just fixing one piece
of code.
Also they probably aren’t following one of the principles of web
design:  test it the way your customer will use it.  Gee, it
comes up tolerably fast on my 8 core 3 GHz workstation. While
customers are using an ATOM based netbook or a smartphone or the
laptop they bought 5 years ago at Costco, because they don’t want
to take their good PC up on a ladder in the rain.
*From:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 3:31 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4.3 is now available
I am guessing they farmed it out to elbonia and don’t have the
source code.
*From:* Tushar Patel mailto:tpa...@ecpi.com
*Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 2:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Release 2.4.3 is now available
Do anybody know why they are not able to fix this problem?

Tushar

On Jun 29, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


Before anyone asks, no, the interface is still the speed of
molasses in January.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Ray Savich
ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com
mailto:ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

Get the details at http://bit.ly/1NqxnDw

Ray

Join the Conversation

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http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/

[AFMUG] itelite SEC3.65XP/5D dual band panels. anyone use them?

[Vlad Sedov]

Hey folks. Looking at some 3.65/5GHz panels from IT Elite, the 
SEC3.65XP/5D -- xpol 3.65, and standard dual-pol 5GHz.

Does anyone have any experience with this particular model?
Any feedback would be appreciated...

cheers,

Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

[Vlad Sedov]

unless that antenna connector is disabled in the router firmware.


vlad


On 1/27/2015 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
You will always be able to add external antennas if there's a 
connector =)


Generally speaking people will get a u.fl to N female bulkhead.  Then 
box it up as the radio.  On the tower you have the antenna, N male 
jumper and the radio.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com 
mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:


Thanks guys. Trying to see if we can add external antenna to these
new routers we're testing.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

Position above it and snap them together, that was pretty
easy.  Disconnecting them was a pain though...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Adam Moffett
dmmoff...@gmail.com mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:


I hate U.Fl.  I think I need to hire a kid with tiny
fingers to plug those in.

I concur doctor :)

On January 27, 2015 8:53:19 AM AKST, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Looks like ufl.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien
ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a
mikrotik with MMCX next to it for comparison.


-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse
my brevity. 

Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

[Vlad Sedov]

U.FL maybe?


vlad

On 1/27/2015 11:51 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:


Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with MMCX 
next to it for comparison.

Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

[Vlad Sedov]

Quick-draw Josh strikes again.. lol


vlad


On 1/27/2015 11:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Looks like ufl.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com 
mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:


Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with
MMCX next to it for comparison.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant

[Vlad Sedov]

oh that's evil...


vlad


On 1/21/2015 12:55 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
We used to joke that that a programmer worth his salt could write code 
to consume any and all resources available.  If the 
processor/memory/storage each grew by 50% or 100%, a good programmer 
could write/re-write code to consume the new resources.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 10:42 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I wonder what the source code looks like for an HTML5 “hello world” page.
It’s kind of shocking how fast a straight HTML/CSS page with no bloat 
comes up.  It used to be Google too great pride in how fast their 
results appeared in your browser, consistently under a second.  Now 
even Google doesn’t seem to care.  I think ads, data mining, and 
bloated code have accustomed people to pages taking 10 or 20 seconds 
to load and become functional and scrollable, and then the 
autoplaying video starts and you go hunting for the mute or pause 
button.  It also seems with virtualization that many dynamic sites 
are starved for resources and take an unacceptably long time to 
access the database and build the page.
Sometimes it helps to use the mobile version of a site because it is 
optimized for a slow processor and small screen.  If there is an m 
dot site I’ll sometimes use that from my desktop browser, not sure 
how to fool a site that auto detects if it is a mobile browser.
Maybe devices like ePMP should have a mobile version of the GUI for 
field use.
Or if the problem is pulling Java libraries for each page, maybe they 
need a custom app instead of using a browser.  Look how fast WInbox 
is, even when it needs to download the plugins for the version of RoS 
on a certain router.  Or remember smartBridges and their 
simpleMonitor?  It was basically a small program that accessed the 
radio via SNMP.

*From:* Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:14 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant
I remember working on an old Data General multi-user basic system.  
Sure, it was only running a basic interpreter, but it supported 4 
simultaneous users in a TOTAL of 16 KB of memory (core memory at that)...


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 7:42 AM, Jon Bruce wrote:

And we only need 64k of RAM.

On 1/21/2015 10:30 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

 You need big boy PCs to be on the Internet anymore

Who's fault is this?  There are sites I don't visit anymore because 
they've made them so bloated they won't run (chicagotribune.com)  
They provide the content, they should make sure they work for me, 
not the other way around (Even though I realize that I am the 
eyeballs being sold)


Just think if the whole web was as neat as the packetflux equipment 
is.  You'd still only need 10mb interfaces on your servers.



On 1/21/2015 9:21 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Oh, no doubt. I like my sea of tabs too.

But we're talking about a radio web interface. I don't care how 
much RAM your PC has, using 10x more resources to display the same 
stuff is a huge waste. Consider how many lower-powered gadgets are 
used to manage radios.. It has to be nimble.



Vlad

On 1/21/2015 9:17 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I routinely have over 8 gigs of RAM chewed up by my browsers, 
sometimes almost 14 GB...  You need big boy PCs to be on the 
Internet anymore.  ;-)




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:15:24 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant

I just did a quick memory usage test on our NMS box...

Firefox (google.com): 76MB in RAM
Firefox with Canopy 450 AP interface open, logged in: 84.5MB.. a 
gain of less than 10MB of RAM usage.
Firefox with ePMP AP open, logged in: *170-185MB* in RAM. over 
100MB RAM usage, to display the same stuff. Why?


IE (google.com): 64MB in RAM
IE with Canopy 450 AP interface open: 53MB (less than google!)
IE with ePMP AP interface open: *138MB*

Similar results with Chrome.. About 75MB difference.


eh.

vlad

On 1/21/2015 8:56 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

Not sure what it is, but in my case, the Machine did make a
difference in load time.  Be interested in others feedback as
well.  Do you see similar results?  Are my results bad?  Do
older/slower machines take longer?


On 1/21/2015 8:52 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

But Seriously, it's a web page displaying TEXT AND
NUMBERS, why should it need an i7 on the client side for
that?
No shit.
So you're saying it's clock speed?  I've no idea what my
phone does but I would be kind of surprised if the Galaxy
S3 and my phone vary too much in CPU (I think they're
both 2013 products).
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite

Re: [AFMUG] Business Radio Licensing?

[Vlad Sedov]

junk.. they've been at it for a while. Charge you $95 to click a button 
or two on ULS.



vlad

On 1/21/2015 10:32 AM, That One Guy wrote:
This looks like junk mail, just needed to verify. The back of it has a 
menacing list of FCC fines.


--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if 
you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] Business Radio Licensing?

[Vlad Sedov]

You have to let FCC know that the link has been installed and is 
operational. Takes a minute at most.



vlad

On 1/21/2015 10:34 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:
junk.. they've been at it for a while. Charge you $95 to click a 
button or two on ULS.



vlad

On 1/21/2015 10:32 AM, That One Guy wrote:
This looks like junk mail, just needed to verify. The back of it has 
a menacing list of FCC fines.


--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that 
the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, 
if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all 
means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant

[Vlad Sedov]

lol..
shit code is mostly why we need gigabytes of RAM these days.


vlad


On 1/21/2015 9:42 AM, Jon Bruce wrote:

And we only need 64k of RAM.








On 1/21/2015 10:30 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

 You need big boy PCs to be on the Internet anymore

Who's fault is this?  There are sites I don't visit anymore because 
they've made them so bloated they won't run (chicagotribune.com)  
They provide the content, they should make sure they work for me, not 
the other way around (Even though I realize that I am the eyeballs 
being sold)


Just think if the whole web was as neat as the packetflux equipment 
is.  You'd still only need 10mb interfaces on your servers.



On 1/21/2015 9:21 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Oh, no doubt. I like my sea of tabs too.

But we're talking about a radio web interface. I don't care how much 
RAM your PC has, using 10x more resources to display the same stuff 
is a huge waste. Consider how many lower-powered gadgets are used to 
manage radios.. It has to be nimble.



Vlad

On 1/21/2015 9:17 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I routinely have over 8 gigs of RAM chewed up by my browsers, 
sometimes almost 14 GB...  You need big boy PCs to be on the 
Internet anymore.  ;-)




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:15:24 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant

I just did a quick memory usage test on our NMS box...

Firefox (google.com): 76MB in RAM
Firefox with Canopy 450 AP interface open, logged in: 84.5MB.. a 
gain of less than 10MB of RAM usage.
Firefox with ePMP AP open, logged in: *170-185MB* in RAM. over 
100MB RAM usage, to display the same stuff. Why?


IE (google.com): 64MB in RAM
IE with Canopy 450 AP interface open: 53MB (less than google!)
IE with ePMP AP interface open: *138MB*

Similar results with Chrome.. About 75MB difference.


eh.

vlad

On 1/21/2015 8:56 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

Not sure what it is, but in my case, the Machine did make a
difference in load time.  Be interested in others feedback as
well.  Do you see similar results? Are my results bad?  Do
older/slower machines take longer?


On 1/21/2015 8:52 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

But Seriously, it's a web page displaying TEXT AND
NUMBERS, why should it need an i7 on the client side for that?

No shit.

So you're saying it's clock speed?  I've no idea what my
phone does but I would be kind of surprised if the Galaxy
S3 and my phone vary too much in CPU (I think they're both
2013 products).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Just to sorta provide some more data from the original
Thread, it seems that CPU Makes a huge difference in
how fast the pages load.� I ran a test from the
office to the same EPMP radio using 3 different machines.

On my 6 core I7 Desktop.� Initial web load takes 4-5
seconds.� And login takes another 4-5 seconds.
On an old Dualcore Xeon, it's 10 seconds for initial
load, and 10 seconds to login
On my atom netbook, it was 20 seconds for initial Load,
10 seconds to login, and another 10 seconds for the
graph to display and all the red '!' marks to disappear
(they were on all left menu items)

I know people just said 'well just get a faster laptop'.

But Seriously, it's a web page displaying TEXT AND
NUMBERS, why should it need an i7 on the client side
for that?



On 1/21/2015 8:34 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Yes they did, and it was definitely for the better.
Most of the improvements were based on some sort of
real world feedback.. That's how you make a good UI :D


vlad


On 1/21/2015 1:29 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�
I do recall they did completely redesign the
interface, due to our request, after the
initial complaints of v1� : /
�

- Original Message -
*From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:15 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System
Specs rant

This has been one of our biggest complaints
from day one

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant

[Vlad Sedov]

I just did a quick memory usage test on our NMS box...

Firefox (google.com): 76MB in RAM
Firefox with Canopy 450 AP interface open, logged in: 84.5MB.. a gain of 
less than 10MB of RAM usage.
Firefox with ePMP AP open, logged in: *170-185MB* in RAM. over 100MB RAM 
usage, to display the same stuff. Why?


IE (google.com): 64MB in RAM
IE with Canopy 450 AP interface open: 53MB (less than google!)
IE with ePMP AP interface open: *138MB*

Similar results with Chrome.. About 75MB difference.


eh.

vlad

On 1/21/2015 8:56 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
Not sure what it is, but in my case, the Machine did make a difference 
in load time.  Be interested in others feedback as well.  Do you see 
similar results?  Are my results bad?  Do older/slower machines take 
longer?



On 1/21/2015 8:52 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
But Seriously, it's a web page displaying TEXT AND NUMBERS, why 
should it need an i7 on the client side for that?


No shit.

So you're saying it's clock speed?  I've no idea what my phone does 
but I would be kind of surprised if the Galaxy S3 and my phone vary 
too much in CPU (I think they're both 2013 products).



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:


Just to sorta provide some more data from the original Thread, it
seems that CPU Makes a huge difference in how fast the pages
load.� I ran a test from the office to the same EPMP radio
using 3 different machines.

On my 6 core I7 Desktop.� Initial web load takes 4-5
seconds.� And login takes another 4-5 seconds.
On an old Dualcore Xeon, it's 10 seconds for initial load, and 10
seconds to login
On my atom netbook, it was 20 seconds for initial Load, 10
seconds to login, and another 10 seconds for the graph to display
and all the red '!' marks to disappear (they were on all left
menu items)

I know people just said 'well just get a faster laptop'.

But Seriously, it's a web page displaying TEXT AND NUMBERS, why
should it need an i7 on the client side for that?



On 1/21/2015 8:34 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Yes they did, and it was definitely for the better. Most of the
improvements were based on some sort of real world feedback..
That's how you make a good UI :D


vlad


On 1/21/2015 1:29 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�
I do recall they did completely redesign the interface, due to
our request, after the initial complaints of v1� : /
�

- Original Message -
*From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:15 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant

This has been one of our biggest complaints from day one.
The interface, while it has gotten slightly more usable, is
still
complete garbage. It's unpredictable, slow, and
inconsistent.. Let alone
the features that just don't work.

Why on earth did they not just stick with a field-tested,
fast, usable
interface from the Canopy line? Nobody buys a radio for
it's slide-out
menus and pretty HTML5 crap.
We need, fast, intuitive, consistent.. Forget the shiny.

grr

Vlad


On 1/20/2015 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
 Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad.� My Field Laptop, a
Lenovo S10-3t,
 Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB
Pages in a
 timely manner.� We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial
load, and
 20-30 seconds per screen refresh/menu change.� Since
I'm going to have
 to go to the boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop
to do any
 field troubleshooting for these new radios, what are the
minimum
 system specs for a machine to view the EPMP Screens?�
Unless Cambium
 is going to get their Web interface under control as of
Yesterday.

 They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house
and not
 purchased (something I still can't believe).� I'd like
to know who the
 engineers/managers are who signed off on that design.�
I can only
 imaging that there was a group of guys sitting around the
conference
 table, watching the presentation on the GUI on the
projector up front,
 all nodding their heads in agreement, I think this is a
wonderful
 layout, the field tech's won't mind waiting a couple
extra minutes for
 the pages to load so they can look this pretty!!

 I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers
from ALL aspects
 of product development out into the field.� 40 seconds

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant

[Vlad Sedov]

Oh, no doubt. I like my sea of tabs too.

But we're talking about a radio web interface. I don't care how much RAM 
your PC has, using 10x more resources to display the same stuff is a 
huge waste. Consider how many lower-powered gadgets are used to manage 
radios.. It has to be nimble.



Vlad

On 1/21/2015 9:17 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I routinely have over 8 gigs of RAM chewed up by my browsers, 
sometimes almost 14 GB...  You need big boy PCs to be on the Internet 
anymore.  ;-)




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:15:24 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant

I just did a quick memory usage test on our NMS box...

Firefox (google.com): 76MB in RAM
Firefox with Canopy 450 AP interface open, logged in: 84.5MB.. a gain 
of less than 10MB of RAM usage.
Firefox with ePMP AP open, logged in: *170-185MB* in RAM. over 100MB 
RAM usage, to display the same stuff. Why?


IE (google.com): 64MB in RAM
IE with Canopy 450 AP interface open: 53MB (less than google!)
IE with ePMP AP interface open: *138MB*

Similar results with Chrome.. About 75MB difference.


eh.

vlad

On 1/21/2015 8:56 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

Not sure what it is, but in my case, the Machine did make a
difference in load time.  Be interested in others feedback as
well.  Do you see similar results?  Are my results bad? Do
older/slower machines take longer?


On 1/21/2015 8:52 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

But Seriously, it's a web page displaying TEXT AND NUMBERS,
why should it need an i7 on the client side for that?

No shit.

So you're saying it's clock speed?  I've no idea what my phone
does but I would be kind of surprised if the Galaxy S3 and my
phone vary too much in CPU (I think they're both 2013 products).


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Nate Burke
n...@blastcomm.com mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

Just to sorta provide some more data from the original
Thread, it seems that CPU Makes a huge difference in how
fast the pages load.� I ran a test from the office to
the same EPMP radio using 3 different machines.

On my 6 core I7 Desktop.� Initial web load takes 4-5
seconds.� And login takes another 4-5 seconds.
On an old Dualcore Xeon, it's 10 seconds for initial load,
and 10 seconds to login
On my atom netbook, it was 20 seconds for initial Load, 10
seconds to login, and another 10 seconds for the graph to
display and all the red '!' marks to disappear (they were
on all left menu items)

I know people just said 'well just get a faster laptop'.

But Seriously, it's a web page displaying TEXT AND
NUMBERS, why should it need an i7 on the client side for
that?



On 1/21/2015 8:34 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:

Yes they did, and it was definitely for the better.
Most of the improvements were based on some sort of
real world feedback.. That's how you make a good UI :D


vlad


On 1/21/2015 1:29 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

�
I do recall they did completely redesign the
interface, due to our request, after the initial
complaints of v1� : /
�

- Original Message -
*From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:15 AM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System
Specs rant

This has been one of our biggest complaints
from day one.
The interface, while it has gotten slightly
more usable, is still
complete garbage. It's unpredictable, slow,
and inconsistent.. Let alone
the features that just don't work.

Why on earth did they not just stick with a
field-tested, fast, usable
interface from the Canopy line? Nobody buys a
radio for it's slide-out
menus and pretty HTML5 crap.
We need, fast, intuitive, consistent.. Forget
the shiny.

grr

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP Minimum System Specs rant

[Vlad Sedov]

This has been one of our biggest complaints from day one.
The interface, while it has gotten slightly more usable, is still 
complete garbage. It's unpredictable, slow, and inconsistent.. Let alone 
the features that just don't work.


Why on earth did they not just stick with a field-tested, fast, usable 
interface from the Canopy line? Nobody buys a radio for it's slide-out 
menus and pretty HTML5 crap.

We need, fast, intuitive, consistent.. Forget the shiny.

grr

Vlad


On 1/20/2015 10:57 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
Ok, Cambium, this is a little sad.  My Field Laptop, a Lenovo S10-3t, 
Atom Processor with Windows 8.1 cannot load the EPMP WEB Pages in a 
timely manner.  We're talking 40-60 seconds for initial load, and 
20-30 seconds per screen refresh/menu change.  Since I'm going to have 
to go to the boss, and tell him that I need a new laptop to do any 
field troubleshooting for these new radios, what are the minimum 
system specs for a machine to view the EPMP Screens?  Unless Cambium 
is going to get their Web interface under control as of Yesterday.


They still swear that the GUI was all developed in house and not 
purchased (something I still can't believe).  I'd like to know who the 
engineers/managers are who signed off on that design.  I can only 
imaging that there was a group of guys sitting around the conference 
table, watching the presentation on the GUI on the projector up front, 
all nodding their heads in agreement, I think this is a wonderful 
layout, the field tech's won't mind waiting a couple extra minutes for 
the pages to load so they can look this pretty!!


I think that Cambium should step up and get engineers from ALL aspects 
of product development out into the field.  40 seconds waiting for the 
page to load is fine when you're sitting in the office, but not when 
you have the laptop balanced on a stack of firewood in the freezing 
rain trying to get to the monitoring page to see why a radio isn't 
linking up.  I think that every WISP on this list would be more than 
happy to host an engineer for a day. Heck, even if they go into the 
parking lot and assemble it on the tailgate of someone's Pickup, 
they'll get some idea of what we experience.


I have a feeling that if all steps of the Dev process took a week in 
the field, We'd have a radio that had a GUI that responded instantly 
on any device, and radios that assembled and mounted (and unmounted) 
with 1 gloved hand.


/rant
Nate

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP bridge table

[Vlad Sedov]

It was spotty at best in previous releases, but doesn't work at all for 
us in 2.3.4. Web interface or ssh. Quite aggravating..



Vlad

On 1/18/2015 1:38 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote:
Seems like it's broken. MACs that should clearly be in the table are 
not. I can ping a static or DHCP device behind an SM, yet it never 
shows up in the SM's bridge table. At least on 2.3.3. Haven't tried 
2.3.4 on anything yet. I have some APs with completely empty tables, 
SMs that show only it's own LAN port MAC, and another SM I just found 
that is full of MACs with port=NA. What's the deal Cambium?

Re: [AFMUG] UglyPoE Mk. II

[Vlad Sedov]

I have the AP velcroed to the battery shoe.. Ended up using the regular 
DC jack to power it.

And yeah, the switch toggles polarity.

I think Mk. III is going to be completely contained in one small 
enclosure, and will be powered by a Lithium battery of some sort, to 
save weight and size.



vlad

On 1/15/2015 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


How does the map2 get on the battery?

Does that switch change polarity for that moto pigtail?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 15, 2015 12:22 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com 
mailto:v...@atlasok.com wrote:


Ok, so I followed the advice from the list.. Got a couple of mAP2n
doohickeys. Then made this.
It turned out uglier than the first one. Funciton over form.. blah.
Very simple config.. single SSID with masquerading to access all
different radios from a cellphone.


vlad

Re: [AFMUG] UglyPoE Mk. II

[Vlad Sedov]

The reason I went with these batteries is that we had tons of them that 
just got re-packed, but the drills were just too worn out to be useful.


I've also been looking at one of these for a power source... Mainly 
cause they can be used for other stuff when needed, like charge a cell 
phone, boost a car, etc.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_573361-74342-CA-9801_0__?productId=50179123


Vlad

On 1/15/2015 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'm using Hitachi batteries.  More than enough juice and it leaves us 
with 1 charger and 1 battery type.  Extra chargers/parts/etc sound messy.


In case you didn't see, here is mine: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhvnb78exjx7t42/2015-01-08%2016.45.02.jpg?dl=0



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com 
mailto:v...@atlasok.com wrote:


I have the AP velcroed to the battery shoe.. Ended up using the
regular DC jack to power it.
And yeah, the switch toggles polarity.

I think Mk. III is going to be completely contained in one small
enclosure, and will be powered by a Lithium battery of some sort,
to save weight and size.


vlad

On 1/15/2015 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


How does the map2 get on the battery?

Does that switch change polarity for that moto pigtail?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 15, 2015 12:22 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com
mailto:v...@atlasok.com wrote:

Ok, so I followed the advice from the list.. Got a couple of
mAP2n doohickeys. Then made this.
It turned out uglier than the first one. Funciton over form..
blah.
Very simple config.. single SSID with masquerading to access
all different radios from a cellphone.


vlad

Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

[Vlad Sedov]

you're welcome..

vlad


On 1/13/2015 10:35 AM, That One Guy wrote:

I thank vlad

but when this rebounds, its going to hurt, not hey doc it burns a 
little when i pee hurt, real hurt


On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:


It's Saudi Arabia trying to squeeze out all the marginal
producers.  Initially it will be Russia and some of the other
marginals like Iraq  Iran.

Pretty sure the shale oil and tar sands guys are hurting big time
right now.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/13/2015 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I wonder what is really driving the price down.  Fracking, OPEC
diaspora, CAFE improvements, Russia problems ???
*From:* Jeremy mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2015 8:54 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
Thanks Obama!  (he gets blamed for EVERYTHING, right??)
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Same up here in Ohio.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 13, 2015 10:35 AM, joseph marsh
bwireless...@gmail.com mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com wrote:

1.75 here in my area

On Jan 13, 2015 9:35 AM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com
mailto:v...@atlasok.com wrote:

$1.50 to $1.55 in oklahoma city.. crazy.

vlad

On 1/13/2015 9:32 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

I never thought I would see gas prices this low.
We have stations at $1.71/gallon in our area
right now. :)

Travis







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Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices

[Vlad Sedov]

$1.50 to $1.55 in oklahoma city.. crazy.

vlad

On 1/13/2015 9:32 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
I never thought I would see gas prices this low. We have stations at 
$1.71/gallon in our area right now. :)


Travis

Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?

[Vlad Sedov]

Ahem. now that the list is working for me...
the original pdf is pretty long.. the tl;dr version is basically this:

conclusion:
experiments with the analog high-temperature thermal generator Rossi, 
loaded with a mix of Nickel and Lithium aluminium hydride, showed that 
at temps around 1000C and above, this device can produce more energy 
than it consumes.


need more detail?

vlad

On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat

Re: [AFMUG] List issue

[Vlad Sedov]

Unsubbed and re-subbed.

Testing.

vlad


On 1/12/2015 5:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I resubscribed to the afmug list with a dedicated email address.  If I 
forget and post from my main email address, that�s what happens, it 
silently disappears.  Of course, if I reply to a post, my email client 
automatically uses the correct From address.
So first thing I would check is whether the email address you are 
sending from is the one you are subscribed with on the list.

*From:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 5:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com ; Vlad Sedov 
mailto:v...@atlasok.com

*Subject:* [AFMUG] List issue
I will post this to the list.  Perhaps someone can suggest a fix.
*From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 4:04 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
Yes, back in December. I receive list messages, but when I send, they 
just disappear.. I don't get an error back, and they don't stay in my 
queue.


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 5:01 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Did you do the amazon thing to confirm list membership?
*From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:32 PM
*To:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
hm.. your mail server accepted my messages but they're not coming 
back to me via list. I was responding about your russian translation 
question.



vlad

On 1/12/2015 4:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Mine seems normal.
*From:* Vlad Sedov mailto:v...@atlasok.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 3:28 PM
*To:* ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT anyone read Russian?
is it just me, or is the list being laggy?


Vlad

On 1/12/2015 3:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/russian-physicist-claims-to-have-replicated-rossi%e2%80%99s-hot-ecat





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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

[Vlad Sedov via Af]

?



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*From:*Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

Possibly a little simpler with similar results.  It gets you
a CLI on the target client.  The proxy is nice because you
can run the web gui.

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On 12/18/2014 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:

With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to
anything on that layer 2 segment. That sounds more useful
than this proxy.



-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/



*From:*Vlad Sedov via Afmailto:af@afmug.com
*To:*af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent:*Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the
internal network between the AP and the SMs
(169.254.101.x) which is what makes the proxy so smooth.
With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having
the right IP address set in the SM before you can manage
it (even when connecting from the AP).
We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS
mapping a major headache..  We don't pre-map SMs before
they go out into the field, so with ePMPs, I have to
create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in
the closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get
into the SM.. Change IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat.

Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I
really, really hope it gets properly implemented.

Vlad

On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be
done with epmp?
Josh Luthman
Office:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

For our install method proxy access (or some
means of remote access to a minimally configured
CPE) is a must have.  The installers do NOT have
to get out a computer or otherwise access the
device.  Power it up, point it at the tower,
listen for signal, call the office for a signal
quality check and go. Everything regarding CPE
programming can be done remotely.
This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the
AP's and then to the CPE but it's not as clean as
Canopy.
No way at all that I know of with ePMP.
Mark

On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
Use it all the time.  Between it and
installer color code field techs can't FUBAR
an install.  When our larger networks were
vlan'd years ago that made the process super
safe.
One of the best features of the canopy
platform in my book.  It annoys me working on
802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd
something like an IP or vlan.
On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, Bill Prince via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Me too.

I don't know how many times I've used it,
but it's more than I have finger to count on.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} 
com

On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup
(Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:

No, rather just have it.

On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman
via Af wrote

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

[Vlad Sedov via Af]

One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal 
network between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes 
the proxy so smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of 
having the right IP address set in the SM before you can manage it (even 
when connecting from the AP).
We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major 
headache..  We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so 
with ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 
address in the closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get 
into the SM.. Change IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat.


Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope 
it gets properly implemented.


Vlad

On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:


How are you doing it with Ubnt?  Can't the same be done with epmp?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote
access to a minimally configured CPE) is a must have.  The
installers do NOT have to get out a computer or otherwise access
the device.  Power it up, point it at the tower, listen for
signal, call the office for a signal quality check and go.  
Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely.


This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to
the CPE but it's not as clean as Canopy.

No way at all that I know of with ePMP.

Mark



On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Use it all the time.  Between it and installer color code field
techs can't FUBAR an install.  When our larger networks were
vlan'd years ago that made the process super safe.

One of the best features of the canopy platform in my book.  It
annoys me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd
something like an IP or vlan.

On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Me too.

I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than
I have finger to count on.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via
Af wrote:

No, rather just have it.

On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:


Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, Mike Hammett via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was
never a show-stopper to not have it.

This brings me to a new post...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/



*From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy

OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I
thought you guys
had Canopy-like SM click-thru access, aka LUID proxy.
But this is not
the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP
of the SM.
Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no.

I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists
on Canopy to
make this work. Please do it.











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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy

[Vlad Sedov via Af]

you'd also have to add an ARP entry for the SM you're trying to manage 
if there's more than one attached with the default address.



Vlad

On 12/18/2014 9:12 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af wrote:
SSH to the AP and add a secondary interface on 192.168.1.20 to the AP. 
 (Or is that already there?  I forget if we added that manually or 
not)   In any case you need a IP address at the AP on the UBNT 
default subnet.


Then SSH forward to the CPE:

ssh admin@theap-name -L 8088:192.168.1.20:80
ssh admin@theap-name -L 8089:192.168.1.20:443

You can then reach a defaulted CPE at http://localhost:8088(external 
link) or https://localhost:8089(external link) in your web browser


This method still requires sending the CPE out the door with the 
correct wifi settings and SSID.   Multiple SSID support at the AP's 
would make this much easier but AFAIK UBNT has not gotten around to 
adding that.   The ability to set a 'install' SSID on all of the AP's 
that the default CPE can connect to until we switch the CPE to the 
proper runtime SSID would have been helpful.


Mark


On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


How are you doing it with Ubnt?  Can't the same be done with epmp?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote
access to a minimally configured CPE) is a must have.  The
installers do NOT have to get out a computer or otherwise access
the device.  Power it up, point it at the tower, listen for
signal, call the office for a signal quality check and go.  
Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely.


This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to
the CPE but it's not as clean as Canopy.

No way at all that I know of with ePMP.

Mark



On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Use it all the time. Between it and installer color code field
techs can't FUBAR an install.  When our larger networks were
vlan'd years ago that made the process super safe.

One of the best features of the canopy platform in my book. 
It annoys me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd

something like an IP or vlan.

On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

Me too.

I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than
I have finger to count on.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com

On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
via Af wrote:

No, rather just have it.

On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:


Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, Mike Hammett via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:

I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was
never a show-stopper to not have it.

This brings me to a new post...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/



*From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy

OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I
thought you guys
had Canopy-like SM click-thru access, aka LUID
proxy. But this is not
the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the
IP of the SM.
Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no.

I'm guessing you need an RF private network like
exists on Canopy to
make this work. Please do it.













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Re: [AFMUG] Release 13.3 Build 15

[Vlad Sedov via Af]

Are there any benefits to running this firmware on 450 APs with 430 interop?

Thanks,

Vlad


On 12/12/2014 2:40 PM, Matt Mangriotis via Af wrote:


Wanted to let you know we just posted Build 15 (a new beta load)... 
this is darn near the final one.  We've corrected past issues and 
would love for you to kick the tires on this release as soon as possible.


Please visit the Cambium Networks webpage to down load the Open Beta 
version of 13.3.


https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/beta

As usual, you can discuss things you find here or at our community page:

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-Beta/bd-p/forums_pmp_beta

There are also several Feature Briefs posted at the community site 
explaining in more detail some of the new features that are in this 
release.  Check it out.


Thanks,

Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of 
*SmarterBroadband via Af

*Sent:* Friday, December 12, 2014 2:34 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium Tools

I assume Wireless manager is still a pay for product?

Anyone using Wireless Advisor?  Is it worth installing?

Thanks

Adam





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Re: [AFMUG] Portable power rig

[Vlad Sedov via Af]

we use PPPoE, but that might still work..


Vlad

On 12/10/2014 9:11 AM, That One Guy via Af wrote:
we have IP aliases on the WAN side for all the different radio systems 
with the interface still set to DHCP, this way we only need one ESSID 
and DHCP Pool on the inside. the techs can plug the radio into it to 
manage the radio until its provisioned, then still access it via the 
pop router after its been provisioned


On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Vlad Sedov via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


This is the product of boredom, some dremel bits, and a large
collection of old power tools..

The switch controls DC polarity, so UBNT and Cambium radios can be
powered from the same jack.
The router is set up with several SSIDs, and each one has its own
DHCP pool. That way, you can attach to the proper SSID with your
mobile device, and it will put you on the same subnet as the
radio. Yet another SSID is used basically as a home wifi router,
so if the radio is moved to the WAN port, the rig can be used to
get online.
This is a very crude prototype, but it works great, and battery
lasts a very long time. Going to migrate it all into a belt pouch.
Being able to charge battery packs on their original charging dock
is also pretty handy.


peace

Vlad


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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik brute force

[Vlad Sedov via Af]

securing the input chain should be one of the first things you do when 
configuring a router.. we usually don't allow input traffic at all, 
except from our management subnets.
the API can be handy when interfacing with a billing system or something 
similar.. though shell commands work too.


vlad

On 12/10/2014 9:47 AM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:


Butch Evans has a nice inexpensive script for Mikrotik that takes care 
of this nicely.


Why even let it through the input chain is my thought.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ty Featherling 
via Af

*Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:30 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik brute force

Note to self, double check all API services are OFF.

-Ty

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:


I have seen an increase in API attacks lately.



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*From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com

*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:51:18 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Mikrotik brute force

Nice. WTF.

http://mkbrutusproject.github.io/MKBRUTUS/





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Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official

[Vlad Sedov via Af]

I remember hearing something about 13.1.3 being the last update for 
FSK.. could be wrong though



Vlad

On 11/13/2014 8:22 AM, Matt via Af wrote:

When will we see it for PMP100 series?


On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Matt Mangriotis via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

It is here!



We released 13.2 this morning officially.  Come to our forum to discuss
anything about it.



http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-2-Now-Avaialable/m-p/36254/thread-id/278



Download the software from the usual place on our support site:



https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/



Thanks to all of you that Beta tested this software with us, and helped to
make it stronger and better than ever.  Now that this is here, we’re hard at
work on delivering the next round of enhancements (code name 13.3 (pretty
original, huh?)) which are right around the corner.



The momentum is building on the PMP 450 platform.



Thanks again,



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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Beta Release 2.3.1 Available Now

[Vlad Sedov via Af]

 RFC1213 support
YE

 ARP table display
it's like christmas!!


Vlad


On 11/12/2014 11:37 AM, Ray Savich via Af wrote:


Check out 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/New-ePMP-Beta-Release-2-3-1-now-available/m-p/36200 
for details.


Ray





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