Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Low cost PtMP sync? *ducking* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:16:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! Why would they buy Cambium? What would they gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: blockquote Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Why would they buy Cambium? What would they gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
If wishes and wants were candy and nuts... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Sync that works? Jerry On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why would they buy Cambium? What would they gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I suppose it would be cheaper to have the team that did Canopy sync do Airmax sync then to buy the entire Cambium corporation...but maybe I'm wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: Sync that works? Jerry On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why would they buy Cambium? What would they gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Sync on a low cost chip for a lower end product line, maybe. AF sync works well, and also doesn't require a bunch of external hardware and odd pinouts and things. On April 24, 2015 8:01:25 AM AKDT, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: Sync that works? Jerry On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why would they buy Cambium? What would they gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
So it looks like Foster went to Amobee which is in a totally different business: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craiglfoster http://www.amobee.com/ Personally, if I were a UBNT stockholder (which I am not), I would like to see them split off some of the businesses for better focus and to maximize return in each area. The enterprise stuff like UniFi and mFi really should be separate from the Broadband products. And they have wisely kept AirFiber separate, I could see that being sold off to some European, Asian or Israeli microwave behemoth. And maybe they should ditch Edgemax and just buy Netonix. And UWN makes no sense. Of course Google could buy the whole company from petty cash. From: Jeremy Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! It feels like we are going off topic now, but UBNT announced that their 3rd quater earnings are lower than expected and the CFO has resigned. Stock has already fallen more than 5% today. OUCH! On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Buying the Corp would remove a competitor. Historically Cambium wasn't a competitor to UBNT (different market focus), but once UBNT grew up a bit and then Cambium released EPMP, that seems like a much more realistic proposition. On April 24, 2015 8:03:12 AM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I suppose it would be cheaper to have the team that did Canopy sync do Airmax sync then to buy the entire Cambium corporation...but maybe I'm wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: Sync that works? Jerry On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why would they buy Cambium? What would they gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Fail to deliver to customers, you'll fail to deliver to shareholders. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:24:45 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! It feels like we are going off topic now, but UBNT announced that their 3rd quater earnings are lower than expected and the CFO has resigned. Stock has already fallen more than 5% today. OUCH! On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: blockquote Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going
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but don't you remember the introductory video where they said they felt the canopy line had been taken about as far as it could be taken ? ( clearly long before pmp450...) - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! I suppose it would be cheaper to have the team that did Canopy sync do Airmax sync then to buy the entire Cambium corporation...but maybe I'm wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jerry Richardson je...@richardson.bz wrote: Sync that works? Jerry On Apr 24, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why would they buy Cambium? What would they gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: My prediction is Ubiquiti buys Cambium some day with some spare change :) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:05 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If the AF team came out with multipoint Cambium's going to be hurtin Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band
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Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Are you on 3.x firmware? On April 23, 2015 2:52:11 PM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
What channel are you running on? It will let you set it to full power, but it should limit it(and display what it's actually doing on the main screen) to whatever is appropriate for your antennas and the band you're using. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have the db of the antennas entered and it was set to 54 db but it auto sets the gain based on antenna size. Everything is set correctly, unless there is some 'trick' to it. I was under the impression that these things set their own gain based on antenna size and EIRP. The EIRP shows (limited) On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Do you have the gain set right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 9:01 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: 14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me. Anyway, UBNT support has contacted me about possibilities for improving the link. We're looking at it now (not that it needs much improvement). How is that for customer support? They reached out to me. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Lights are right on for me. Blinking red would be 14db off I think. Blinking blue is 1 off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 8:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me. Anyway, UBNT support has contacted me about possibilities for improving the link. We're looking at it now (not that it needs much improvement). How is that for customer support? They reached out to me. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Lights are right on for me. Blinking red would be 14db off I think. Blinking blue is 1 off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 8:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I have the db of the antennas entered and it was set to 54 db but it auto sets the gain based on antenna size. Everything is set correctly, unless there is some 'trick' to it. I was under the impression that these things set their own gain based on antenna size and EIRP. The EIRP shows (limited) On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Do you have the gain set right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 9:01 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: 14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me. Anyway, UBNT support has contacted me about possibilities for improving the link. We're looking at it now (not that it needs much improvement). How is that for customer support? They reached out to me. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Lights are right on for me. Blinking red would be 14db off I think. Blinking blue is 1 off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 8:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I have another AF5X installed also. The signal levels on that one were horrible. I got looking at the path and realized that I actually have a LOS issue on that link that has cropped up, and it is shooting through the treetops. It is still doing 179Mbps but has some definite issues. I need to move the backhaul on that site halfway up the tower to resolve that LOS issue. For now it is still kicking the crap out of the AC link I had in there before. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I do not have any cable loss set... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have the db of the antennas entered and it was set to 54 db but it auto sets the gain based on antenna size. Everything is set correctly, unless there is some 'trick' to it. I was under the impression that these things set their own gain based on antenna size and EIRP. The EIRP shows (limited) On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Do you have the gain set right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 9:01 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: 14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me. Anyway, UBNT support has contacted me about possibilities for improving the link. We're looking at it now (not that it needs much improvement). How is that for customer support? They reached out to me. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Lights are right on for me. Blinking red would be 14db off I think. Blinking blue is 1 off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 8:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Lights are right on for me. Blinking red would be 14db off I think. Blinking blue is 1 off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 8:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
Do you have the gain set right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 9:01 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: 14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me. Anyway, UBNT support has contacted me about possibilities for improving the link. We're looking at it now (not that it needs much improvement). How is that for customer support? They reached out to me. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Lights are right on for me. Blinking red would be 14db off I think. Blinking blue is 1 off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 8:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
I do not have any cable loss set... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I have the db of the antennas entered and it was set to 54 db but it auto sets the gain based on antenna size. Everything is set correctly, unless there is some 'trick' to it. I was under the impression that these things set their own gain based on antenna size and EIRP. The EIRP shows (limited) On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Do you have the gain set right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 9:01 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: 14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me. Anyway, UBNT support has contacted me about possibilities for improving the link. We're looking at it now (not that it needs much improvement). How is that for customer support? They reached out to me. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Lights are right on for me. Blinking red would be 14db off I think. Blinking blue is 1 off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 8:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be
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One question rejected and one not answered means the not answered - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 7:15:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! No plans at this stage for white space. As for anything additional coming from AF team...They are always working on something (or many things)... On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what
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I had a 25 mile Rocket M5 link with 34s on both sides that was -52? You're probably missing some deebees. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:01:09 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! 14db off can't be right at -57. Lights are inconsequential for me. Anyway, UBNT support has contacted me about possibilities for improving the link. We're looking at it now (not that it needs much improvement). How is that for customer support? They reached out to me. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Lights are right on for me. Blinking red would be 14db off I think. Blinking blue is 1 off. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 23, 2015 8:49 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote There have been murmurs of multipoint being a possibility, nothing yet. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: blockquote Is multipoint in the future? white space? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: blockquote Thanks for the great feedback! More units will be arriving next week. Regards, Ben On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote These things are amazing! I just finished converting to dual slant. 34dbi dish on one side, 30dbi dish on the other, 7.75 miles, RX -57 (all chains), 40Mhz channel width, modulation hovering between QAM16 and QAM64. Seeing 260-275Mbps down by 60Mbps up on a 75% duty cycle. The lights don't seem to work right as far as alignment goes. I spent forever fine tuning through the gui and the lights are still blinking red, one signal level. I wouldn't align with lights anyway. I am extremely impressed with these. Now if only anywhere still had them in stock On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Did you set 23dbi gain
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
if there was a good 25db dish out there that I liked i would use it... Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 1:41 AM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com wrote: I'm also quite confused on some people using low gain antennas for this. At a minimum, people should be using 25 db dish antennas. We plan on using minimum 30 db dishes on these links to improve link budget and block noise with the narrower beam. Why all of a sudden 2-3 people are using panel antennas is beyond me. We don't have one panel antenna in our network and not sure why we'd ever start either. Dishes all the way! On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: PS. You might want to consider water proofing that GPS connector as well.. They way that boot works has always made me feel like it’s a perfect water cup. image001.png -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook
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What about a 24dBi? http://www.brinknetworks.com/jirous-jrc-24-ex-mimo-1-dual-polarity-high-performance-dish/ Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/18/2015 11:08 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: if there was a good 25db dish out there that I liked i would use it... Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 1:41 AM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com wrote: I'm also quite confused on some people using low gain antennas for this. At a minimum, people should be using 25 db dish antennas. We plan on using minimum 30 db dishes on these links to improve link budget and block noise with the narrower beam. Why all of a sudden 2-3 people are using panel antennas is beyond me. We don't have one panel antenna in our network and not sure why we'd ever start either. Dishes all the way! On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: PS. You might want to consider water proofing that GPS connector as well.. They way that boot works has always made me feel like it’s a perfect water cup. image001.png -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com http://www.mnwifi.com/ 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
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No idea why they would want to use such low gain antennas either. Low gain antennas doesn't make sense. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 11:22:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! Hi, The sensitivity of the DFS receiver increases as the antenna gain decreases. The lowest gain DFS is certified for is a 23 dBi antenna gain. Setting an antenna gain lower than 23 dBi may result in unwanted DFS detections. As an observation, I will say I am a bit surprised at all of the folks talking about sub 23 dBi antennas. When we released the AF5/AF5U 10X full duplex radios, there was some discussion suggesting that was that our antenna gain was too low (23 dBi). Now that we have an external antenna radio, is surprises me how many people want to go lower when using a higher gain antenna (narrower beam) should physically tune out more external interference. Food for thought, Chuck OT: Just saw Ex Machina - 2 thumbs up! On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I recalled Chuck mentioning something like that at AF. I guess I should have taken notes. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote I've got 3 DFS set... No problems. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 11:30 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain exactly for DFS to work. I think they also mentioned that you couldn't use DFS freqs for both polarities without getting detections. So I believe one freq would have to be non-DFS and one DFS. Did I catch that correctly? Anyone? Or was it just that both polarities couldn't be the same DFS freq? On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: blockquote First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
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The UBNT boots are just pretty addons. THe connector itself is IP67 compliant and no weatherproofing is needed at all. Not sure why people keep thinking they need to put all this crap on every connector, or if they do need to, why their vendors haven't improved their designs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 11:30:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! PS. You might want to consider water proofing that GPS connector as well.. They way that boot works has always made me feel like it’s a perfect water cup.
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I think we've had more than one discussion on how awesome the Jirous dishes are. Other than maybe something super high end like Andrews, Gabriel, RadioWaves, etc. at $1k/dish, I don't see a need to use any other manufacturer. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 2:15:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! What about a 24dBi? http://www.brinknetworks.com/jirous-jrc-24-ex-mimo-1-dual-polarity-high-performance-dish/ Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/18/2015 11:08 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: if there was a good 25db dish out there that I liked i would use it... Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 1:41 AM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com wrote: blockquote I'm also quite confused on some people using low gain antennas for this. At a minimum, people should be using 25 db dish antennas. We plan on using minimum 30 db dishes on these links to improve link budget and block noise with the narrower beam. Why all of a sudden 2-3 people are using panel antennas is beyond me. We don't have one panel antenna in our network and not sure why we'd ever start either. Dishes all the way! On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: blockquote PS. You might want to consider water proofing that GPS connector as well.. They way that boot works has always made me feel like it’s a perfect water cup. image001.png -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook /blockquote /blockquote
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shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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I'd suggest you try the upgrade. I haven't had any DFS problems outside. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: shipped release Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
While it the connector itself may be IP67 complaint, I have seen several crimp jobs of the cable onto the connector where there were gaps that would allow water to penetrate down into the connector. If this particular GPS cable suffers from a poor crimp, the cup formed by the boot will cause premature failure. -PK
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Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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I mastic and tape all of my connectors. There's no reason not to. I know I have never said I wish I hadn't sealed these connectors that have been here for five years without getting water in them. I still love that the boot makes it easier to remove the cables once it has been sealed. Anyone who has ever sealed SMA connectors that don't have a boot and then down the road tried to remove them know that the mastic gets into every crack and thread and makes unscrewing it a total pain. On another note, Chuck's post makes me glad that all of my AF5Xs are going up on 30db 34db dishes. On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: While it the connector itself may be IP67 complaint, I have seen several crimp jobs of the cable onto the connector where there were gaps that would allow water to penetrate down into the connector. If this particular GPS cable suffers from a poor crimp, the cup formed by the boot will cause premature failure. -PK
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I am replacing Rockets, and I will be changing the orientation for dual slant. We're in the process of getting backup links in place and cutting over to them so that we can modify the dishes without significant downtime. On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Are you replacing Rockets? If yes, are you rotating the feed to get dual slant? *From:* Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:30 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! I mastic and tape all of my connectors. There's no reason not to. I know I have never said I wish I hadn't sealed these connectors that have been here for five years without getting water in them. I still love that the boot makes it easier to remove the cables once it has been sealed. Anyone who has ever sealed SMA connectors that don't have a boot and then down the road tried to remove them know that the mastic gets into every crack and thread and makes unscrewing it a total pain. On another note, Chuck's post makes me glad that all of my AF5Xs are going up on 30db 34db dishes. On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: While it the connector itself may be IP67 complaint, I have seen several crimp jobs of the cable onto the connector where there were gaps that would allow water to penetrate down into the connector. If this particular GPS cable suffers from a poor crimp, the cup formed by the boot will cause premature failure. -PK
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We used to put electrical tape under the mastic until we discovered fusion tape. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 9:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! I mastic and tape all of my connectors. There's no reason not to. I know I have never said I wish I hadn't sealed these connectors that have been here for five years without getting water in them. I still love that the boot makes it easier to remove the cables once it has been sealed. Anyone who has ever sealed SMA connectors that don't have a boot and then down the road tried to remove them know that the mastic gets into every crack and thread and makes unscrewing it a total pain. On another note, Chuck's post makes me glad that all of my AF5Xs are going up on 30db 34db dishes. On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.commailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: While it the connector itself may be IP67 complaint, I have seen several crimp jobs of the cable onto the connector where there were gaps that would allow water to penetrate down into the connector. If this particular GPS cable suffers from a poor crimp, the cup formed by the boot will cause premature failure. -PK
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Are you replacing Rockets? If yes, are you rotating the feed to get dual slant? From: Jeremy Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! I mastic and tape all of my connectors. There's no reason not to. I know I have never said I wish I hadn't sealed these connectors that have been here for five years without getting water in them. I still love that the boot makes it easier to remove the cables once it has been sealed. Anyone who has ever sealed SMA connectors that don't have a boot and then down the road tried to remove them know that the mastic gets into every crack and thread and makes unscrewing it a total pain. On another note, Chuck's post makes me glad that all of my AF5Xs are going up on 30db 34db dishes. On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: While it the connector itself may be IP67 complaint, I have seen several crimp jobs of the cable onto the connector where there were gaps that would allow water to penetrate down into the connector. If this particular GPS cable suffers from a poor crimp, the cup formed by the boot will cause premature failure. -PK
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Are you on 3.0 or the shipped release? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Josh, I did set it while in the DFS bands and still didn't make any difference. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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V/H or +45/-45? From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 7:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far! First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
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Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
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looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
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The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
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Weird, it's working right for me. Did you upgrade to v3.0, or are you still on RC7 or whatever it was they shipped with? I'm getting 45db eirp with 30dbi dishes, which should be the correct max for 5.2ghz. maybe it's only screwed up with smaller antennas. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
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3.0 My link is only 2000 feet. 19dbi antenna give me -60 and I can see it bounce up and down 1db. I'm not certain there's ATPC but it certainly looks that way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 9:12 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Weird, it's working right for me. Did you upgrade to v3.0, or are you still on RC7 or whatever it was they shipped with? I'm getting 45db eirp with 30dbi dishes, which should be the correct max for 5.2ghz. maybe it's only screwed up with smaller antennas. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
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That would makes sense, I don't remember hearing anything about ATPC on these, but it would be kind of surprising if they didn't have it. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: 3.0 My link is only 2000 feet. 19dbi antenna give me -60 and I can see it bounce up and down 1db. I'm not certain there's ATPC but it certainly looks that way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 9:12 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Weird, it's working right for me. Did you upgrade to v3.0, or are you still on RC7 or whatever it was they shipped with? I'm getting 45db eirp with 30dbi dishes, which should be the correct max for 5.2ghz. maybe it's only screwed up with smaller antennas. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110
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There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain exactly for DFS to work. I think they also mentioned that you couldn't use DFS freqs for both polarities without getting detections. So I believe one freq would have to be non-DFS and one DFS. Did I catch that correctly? Anyone? Or was it just that both polarities couldn't be the same DFS freq? On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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I've got 3 DFS set... No problems. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 11:30 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain exactly for DFS to work. I think they also mentioned that you couldn't use DFS freqs for both polarities without getting detections. So I believe one freq would have to be non-DFS and one DFS. Did I catch that correctly? Anyone? Or was it just that both polarities couldn't be the same DFS freq? On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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I thought I recalled Chuck mentioning something like that at AF. I guess I should have taken notes. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I've got 3 DFS set... No problems. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 11:30 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It was talked about that you absolutely need to set your antenna gain exactly for DFS to work. I think they also mentioned that you couldn't use DFS freqs for both polarities without getting detections. So I believe one freq would have to be non-DFS and one DFS. Did I catch that correctly? Anyone? Or was it just that both polarities couldn't be the same DFS freq? On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Definitely set it in the DFS band! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 10:06 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Ken, This is V/H polarity. Don't really see any need for slant on this link. I'm limited for antenna options right now anyway. But these are working great so I don't think I'm going to mess with them. Josh, No I did not set antenna gain. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: There isn't really ATPC per say. There are some.. Similar options in 3.x firmware. Have you read Chuck's post on how the AF won't really let you cheat on EIRP? Has to do with distance calculations, tx power, etc. On April 18, 2015 5:05:43 PM AKDT, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The EIRP is messed up unless the ATPC brought mine down to to -60. I've got it at 25eirp with 19dbi antenna. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:58 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: looks to me like the antenna gain is at 0db, since it's saying it's limiting it to 15dbm EIRP... not that it actually makes any difference, since the TX power is going to be at 15dbm either way... it'll just be showing 38 on the interface. On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you set 23dbi gain? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 18, 2015 8:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: First link up. Havn't even fine tuned anything yet. ARC panels on both ends. Initially tried to use DFS freqs and kept getting radar detect. Even though I was 50mhz away from anything else 5ghz on the same tower. Pretty sure the radar detection was coming from itself because it would pass the initial bootup listen period and once it started transmitting would then get the detections. So don't know what that was about. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] loving these AF5X's so far!
PS. You might want to consider water proofing that GPS connector as well.. They way that boot works has always made me feel like it’s a perfect water cup.
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I'm also quite confused on some people using low gain antennas for this. At a minimum, people should be using 25 db dish antennas. We plan on using minimum 30 db dishes on these links to improve link budget and block noise with the narrower beam. Why all of a sudden 2-3 people are using panel antennas is beyond me. We don't have one panel antenna in our network and not sure why we'd ever start either. Dishes all the way! On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: PS. You might want to consider water proofing that GPS connector as well.. They way that boot works has always made me feel like it’s a perfect water cup. -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi
