Re: [arr] Semi ARR | Shyam Benegal has begun work on Chamki Chameli
Dear Rawat, I understand your thoughts, on the way certain music has been chopped off from Bose. But still, Bose is clearly one of the best albums of ARR and i think certain due credit should be given to Benegal to trust ARR. We must remember that Shyam Benegal is more of an art-film-maker and he has been using only 1 composer right from late-70s, for all his films: Vanraj Bhatia, who again, despite being talented, doesnt have any commercial or mainstream films to boast of. Now for such a film-maker to switch to ARR, who is a mainstream film composer (ofcourse, now the lines between commercial and parallel cinema are blurred), it takes quite a confidence and trust. and not just that, the combination actually worked because Benegal, contrary to what you say, has a good sense of music. Here is my take on the combo: 1. Zubeidaa - A very classy score. Please hear the album, ARR never composed tunes like in Zubeidaa, before or even after. They are vintage, rooted-in-melody and yet contemporary. And not to forget, it was in this film that he composed his first truly Hindustani Classical track, a 'Thumri', Chodo More Saiyyan. And yes, the western classical 'So Gaye Hai' is another Gem. 2. Bose - Again a very classy score. Some beautiful songs for Sonu Nigam, rooted in Vintage melody. And this is the 1st album of ARR, released as true OST as such. I mean, we didnt have to rip Voiceless BGMs, because ARR provided us the brilliant BGMs in the CD. The instrumental tracks, all done with Czech Philharmonic Orchestra are one of ARR's orchestral best. For all people who argue with me that ARR is all about technology, i suggest this album as answer. And lastly, you are mistaken that Thakshak was by Benegal. It was by Govind Nihlani, a protege of Benegal though. Yet, as you said, there is all likelihood that songs/music could be chopped off in the film. But then, we need to listen and appreciate music right, rather than see and appreciate it. So, as long as there is a cd released, it is a treat for us. For these reasons, i look forward to Benegal-ARR combo, as much as i wait for a ARR-Gowariker or ARR-Maniratnam or ARR-Deepa Mehta or ARR-Rajeev Menon Combo. because these, never disappointed us. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Tue, 10/28/08, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Semi ARR | Shyam Benegal has begun work on Chamki Chameli To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 12:49 PM On 10/28/2008 10:44 AM India Time, _Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla_ wrote: Is there any way through which we can find out if ARR is still associated with this project? I wish he does, because there is lot of scope for classy music, which ARR really likes, in this film, given the director is Shyam Benegal. I wish otherwise. I was sick to find the lullaby of Bose was trimmed in the film. other music visuals were also mediocre. Takshak's that song in the park was so poorly picturised as they were doing in early 70s. Benegal has no ear for music and he wastes great music of our man. I hope ARR refuses to work with Benegal. -- V
Re: [arr] Rahman has a Divine Face - Subhash Ghai
can anyone get the video of this interview plz. sounds very interesting. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Rahman has a Divine Face - Subhash Ghai To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:07 PM EXCLUSIVE:Excerpts frm arr,ghai,gulzar chat hi all, today had the pleasure of watching a special program called legends of melody which had arr,subhash ghai and gulzar as the guests for the movie YUVVRAAJ on NDTV 24*7 at 1.30. It was a great show lasted for half an hour. Although i cant remember the whole set of questions bt m putting below watever i remember. Q(to ghai): How did u deal with the mode of working of arr.(arr starts smiling).How much did u tolerated. ANS. Well actually i wanted him to prepare the music as fast as possible(starts laughing). The reason was that i had already imagined how the shot must takes place, the dress etc. Only part remaining used to be the music. So out of excitement i wanted him to deliver now. Sometimes u get frustrated bt when u look at rahman, he has such a divine face. He always remains calm and smiles when u look at him. So i used to forget everything and start smiling with him.(both arr and ghai laugh). Bt u know a person like rahman needs his time. He deserves it. Q(to gulzar): How much do u think poetry scenario has changed today? ANS. It has changed a lot. Now a days we hav commercialized poetry. Bt look at rahman he brought tremendous change. Earlier we used to have 2 lines of mukhada and then 2 lines of antara. Bt with rahman anything is possible. Q(to arr): When u prepare tune, if ghai doesnt like wat happens then? ANS. Nothing he just says it doesnt work. I go to something else. Its that simple. (ghai interrupts) The best thing about rahman is that he immediately shifts to the next tune if i dont like it. He has no such ego. He can change it himself if he doesnt find it right. Infact sometimes when i like the tune hearing first time he cant believe it ki inhe pasand kaise aa gaya itni jaldi(laughs) Q(to all): Now each of u hav to tell the 3 works that u liked of the other two gentlemen in which u hav not collaborated. ANS. GHAI: my favs are roja,taal and yuvvraaj.( on being reminded not to mention his own) All are great. in case of arr the least u can expect is EXCELLENT. ARR: I m getting nostalgic so i wud say ghai's HERO is the one i used to play during childhood. Gulzar: In case of rahman, i loved the song e ajnabi from dil se. I loved ghai's taal. the way he pictuarized the song was so great. I decided to work with ghai sahab. When he called me for yuvvraaj he said kya aap likhenge i said yes sir,bilkul(everyone laughs). ARR says i couldnt belive he agreed for writing so many songs(laughing) ( Posted from Orkut ) -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
Re: [arr] Semi ARR | Shyam Benegal has begun work on Chamki Chameli
Is there any way through which we can find out if ARR is still associated with this project? I wish he does, because there is lot of scope for classy music, which ARR really likes, in this film, given the director is Shyam Benegal. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Tue, 10/28/08, rahmanfever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: rahmanfever [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Semi ARR | Shyam Benegal has begun work on Chamki Chameli To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:23 AM Semi ARR | Shyam Benegal has begun work on Chamki Chameli http://www.apunkach oice.com/ happenings/ 20081001- 0.html -- regards.. Krish.. His Music ~ My Mother Tongue
[arr] Help Needed: Complete List of all the Music ARR ever made
Friends, I need some help. I need the complete discography of ARR, if possible in a Microsoft excel doc. I am sure that all the fans and admirers here have a huge collection and i hope some of them have the list of all the songs/singles/films/private albums he has ever done in an organized list (according to language/year/ etc) be it in excel doc or word doc or something of that sort. I need the complete list, exhaustive one. Anyone who has already got all the ARR enlisted in such a format? can anyone share it with me please. I appreciate if someone can really help me out. Thanks Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com
Re: [arr] Help Needed: Complete List of all the Music ARR ever made
Hi! Vithur, Thanks for that. will check it for sure. Small question: Is it updated? I mean, i was looking for a database which contains even his singles such as 'Taj Mahal song, 'Hyderabad Airport song', Vanessa Mae track, Pray for me brother, Tsunami song etc..things like that, which usually dont come to mind while compiling a list. I will defnly check that link, but just in case if someone has a more updated one (if that webpage is not updated, that is), please share. Thanks again. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Help Needed: Complete List of all the Music ARR ever made To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 9:02 PM Try Gopal's blog or page http://members. tripod.com/ gopalhome/ arrpage.html You will get to know everything under the sky abt ARR On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Friends, I need some help. I need the complete discography of ARR, if possible in a Microsoft excel doc. I am sure that all the fans and admirers here have a huge collection and i hope some of them have the list of all the songs/singles/ films/private albums he has ever done in an organized list (according to language/year/ etc) be it in excel doc or word doc or something of that sort. I need the complete list, exhaustive one. Anyone who has already got all the ARR enlisted in such a format? can anyone share it with me please. I appreciate if someone can really help me out. Thanks Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal- aakarsh.blogspot .com -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
Re: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? - Raag Bheempalas
The beginning of Kelamal has 2 lines..of which the first goes like ketka rasika paada undrai... (pardon my tamil, i am not a tamilian),..as far as i can feel it..it is abheri.. Now, the 2nd line has a change in harmony (background is also stepped up, if you can notice..).. I cant vouch for that..if there is a Darbari kaanada hidden in that. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? - Raag Bheempalas To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 1:30 PM I thought the beginning of Kelaamal was in Darbari Kanada? --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla aakarsh_vk@ ... wrote: Hi! Manmohini is based on raag Bheempalas , whose carnatic equivalent is Abheri. ARR's own Bheempalas/Abheri compositions include: 1. Kannodu - Jeans - Abheri 2. Kismat se tum - Pukaar (one of the beautiful Bheempalas compsotions in Hindi film music) 3. Radha Kaise Na Jale - beautiful indeed, Bheempalas. 4. Lucky Lucky - Rakshagan - Abheri 5. Shabba Shabba - Abheri (this is one freaky abheri, i could figure it out initially, till i looked at the interludes) 6. Kelamal - ATM (i am not sure abt whole song but the opening tune,Ketka rasika paada unrai... is abheri for sure..) There could be more, but i remembered only these now.. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal- aakarsh.blogspot .com --- On Fri, 10/17/08, nivensamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: From: nivensamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Subject: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 9:50 AM Manmohini is my new ringtone... And, yes i was amazed to hear Vijay Prakash voice like HAriharan... Im addicted to this track... and whats worst is that it ends when its getting better... wish there was a part 2... :-( VERY VERY Good music Taal is the past, Yuvvraaj, the future. Niven (Mauritius) --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote: After Kisna's Kaahe Ujaadi Mori Neend (by ID), Ghai has again used a pure classical song Manmohini. That sounds so good and rare. That is one area that Anu Malik and Himesh and Pritam would never touch because it is just beyond their capabilities. Any master of classical music here? Which Raga is Manmohini based on? Any other film songs (non-ARR) based on that Raga? Thanks. -- Rawat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? - Raag Bheempalas.. (thenmerkku)
and Tapey3, i forgot to mention..rather i just realized.. the song themerkku paruvakkaatru from a bharathiraja tamil film (sung by Unnikrishnan and some female)..if you remember, there is a keyboard tune in it..kind of signature tune type...which is same as Ketka rasika paada undrai..both start on same scale and follow same structure..same notes too... if that is Abheri..even this is. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? - Raag Bheempalas To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 1:30 PM I thought the beginning of Kelaamal was in Darbari Kanada? --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla aakarsh_vk@ ... wrote: Hi! Manmohini is based on raag Bheempalas , whose carnatic equivalent is Abheri. ARR's own Bheempalas/Abheri compositions include: 1. Kannodu - Jeans - Abheri 2. Kismat se tum - Pukaar (one of the beautiful Bheempalas compsotions in Hindi film music) 3. Radha Kaise Na Jale - beautiful indeed, Bheempalas. 4. Lucky Lucky - Rakshagan - Abheri 5. Shabba Shabba - Abheri (this is one freaky abheri, i could figure it out initially, till i looked at the interludes) 6. Kelamal - ATM (i am not sure abt whole song but the opening tune,Ketka rasika paada unrai... is abheri for sure..) There could be more, but i remembered only these now.. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal- aakarsh.blogspot .com --- On Fri, 10/17/08, nivensamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: From: nivensamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Subject: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 9:50 AM Manmohini is my new ringtone... And, yes i was amazed to hear Vijay Prakash voice like HAriharan... Im addicted to this track... and whats worst is that it ends when its getting better... wish there was a part 2... :-( VERY VERY Good music Taal is the past, Yuvvraaj, the future. Niven (Mauritius) --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote: After Kisna's Kaahe Ujaadi Mori Neend (by ID), Ghai has again used a pure classical song Manmohini. That sounds so good and rare. That is one area that Anu Malik and Himesh and Pritam would never touch because it is just beyond their capabilities. Any master of classical music here? Which Raga is Manmohini based on? Any other film songs (non-ARR) based on that Raga? Thanks. -- Rawat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [arr] - Zindagi Zindagi (Gulzarji and Javedji).. to lalisingh
Dear Lalisingh, i beg to differ. Gulzar is a very, very different lyricist. he is special, because he uses words, different words for sure, to give a different sensibility. and more importantly, he is probably the only lyricist who is fascinated by and who emphasizes on the sound of the words. his poetry is something which involves aesthetic imaginatin rather than pure word meanings. Like if he writes Saansein Uljhi hui hain, it doesnt mean that someone is having breathing problems..it is more indepth...in the sense that the 'vitality of survival seems to be disturbed'. I agree that the lyrics are not as direct as other lyricists, but then thats a different style he has got, which no one else has got. he has got his own grammar, sensibilities etc. like he uses 'Chulha' to weave an aura of 'earthiess' and prefers that over the usual 'Rasoi'. ofcourse literal imagination of Stove, kills that earthiness. With due respects to Javed Akhar (who is my another favourite), i find his lyrics are top class for sure, flowery, feel-good, nice, direct. No qualms about it, for they reach the common man for sure. They dont lack anything. but there has been a lineage for his brand of poetry (his father Jan Nisar Akhtar or his father-in-law Kaifi Azami). I dont mean to take credit away from him, but the 'lehaaz' or the 'tehezeeb' or the grammar of his language has comeo him as a legacy and he is successfully carrying it forward. but Gulzar, on the otherhand , developed his own inimitable style of poetry, usage of words, grammar, sensibility, not only in urdu, but in pure Hindi also. Gulzar's lines are little esoteric, a bit thought-provoking. It depends on individual taste anyways. Like there are two ways of looking at Chaiiyya Chaiya lyrics. Are they commonly understood lines? No.. So we can find fault... But did they make you curious to know their meanings? For me, YES ..i searched for every meaning..word-by-word and the song's beauty manifested in more sublimal realm. It works for me. One of my fav line of Gulzar: Raqs karthi hai Shab bhar, meri tanhaayee hain.. (from a non-ARR song). Firstly, i liked the sound of the words Raqs and Shab. if you are curious enough, plz look into their meanings and let me know if you liked that line. To give a very loose generic analogy, Javed Akhtar's lines are like Ashutosh Gowariker films..Simple...Very good..honest.. and Gulzar's lines are like Maniratnam films.. a bit more aesthetic, thought-provoking, sensitive. Now i dont know if it is coincidence or my exactness in analogy, that Ashutosh vibes well with Javed Akhtar and Maniratnam with Gulzar. . As i said, it is matter of one's sensibilities and the kind of poetry one likes. Both are geniuses in their own way. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Pravinder Sheoran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pravinder Sheoran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: [Translation] - Zindagi Zindagi To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 2:18 PM Does not matter how many reasons you give man, Gulzar is the best lyricist we have in Indian film industry. Why don't you listen the following: Saathiya, Satarangi re, Mera yaar milade saaiyan and many more. Pravinder. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, lalisingh20 lalisingh20@ ... wrote: OK my sense of poetry is overrated. Could u please explain the poetry behind these lyrics below, it makes no sense to me at all: Chalka Chalka Re from Saathiya: gaeyaa meree pyaasee rah gayee tulasee vaalee vaadee rah gayee chuulhaa main jalaatee rah gayee As far as I can understand it says My cow remained thirsty the valley of tulasi remained I kept burning the stove Now, someone please explain how these genius of lyrics are supposed to describe the joy of a girl who is engaged and about to get married. I don't even understand tamil and I prefer listening to Yaro Yarodi than listening to the Chalka chalka one because it makes no damn sense. Better to listen to something that you don't understand than listen to something that makes no sense. I'm nobody to doubt Gulzars lyrics, but honestly Javed Akthar write simple yet elegant lyrics, and to the point. Gulzar write these metaphors that only he can understand. Like i mentioned gulzars lyrix are fancy because the plugs in hindi/urdu/farsi words. Since most people dont' understand it they think it must be class. Also, did you know that Chaiya chiaya from dilse is actually a punjabi folk song with punjabi lyrics. Alot of people said rahman copied the music, but in reality they were talking about the lyrics. Gulzar simply turned the punjabi lyrics into hindi/ urdu lyrics. I think most people would agree that best Hindi lyrical quality for RAhman comes from Javed Akthr and then Prasson Joshi and then maybe Mehboob. Every time Rahman teams up with Gulzar, I'm hesitant and I hope he does
Re: [arr] - Zindagi Zindagi (Gulzarji and Javedji).. to lalisingh
Hi Lalisingh, dude, this was a discussion...a mere exchange of thoughts. plz dont view it as an attack. i just gave my take on how two different schools of poetry are, that too, both being favourites to quite many here. So, Relax! Also, i failed to realize that I actually drifted away from ARR centric discussion, when i was writing that. Sorry for that folks. And to be honest, although i love gulzar's poetry in ARR songs, i feel such kind of poetry is more justified in Vishal Bharadwaj's music than in ARR's music (exception being Dil Se). I dont wish to annoy fans here, but it is a purely personal opinion. I dont mean that ARR doesnt justify..I am only saying Vishal justifies an extra measure. and that could be probably because he understands the language more/better than ARR who has recently picked up hindi/Urdu. The bottomline however is, the only lyricists i look up, to team up with ARR e Gulzar and Javed Akhtar. And ofcourse, Prasoon Joshi too. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Sat, 10/18/08, lalisingh20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: lalisingh20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] - Zindagi Zindagi (Gulzarji and Javedji).. to lalisingh To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 9:55 PM Thank you Kamal and thank you Neetika for the translation of Chalka. That is exactly the point I was trying to make. Javed ji or Prasoon Joshi lyrics are simple and very effective, you don't need a dictionry to find out the meaning. Infact Javed ji's lyrics set the mood of the song and already tell you what is happening in the song without watching it. Anyway, I knew critisizing rahman in this group does not go well, but I didn't know critisizing anyone who has worked with him will do the same. I was actually talking about the sell-ability of the song. your average person out there is not going to understand the lyrics or have time to go find the meaning, therefore I was saying it may hurt the popularity of the songs. it's much easier to remember and humm a song if you know the meaning and understand it. Gulzar is a legend, who am I, but I think it hurts RAhmans music if only some elite group of people understand it. Like kaissiom said, it's open to interpretation -based on how much you understand. I like how he translated do-peher to half of life. Even I was thinking why is this guy so depressed about the afternoon? but who knows may be he is depressed about waiting from morning to afternoon. Im from north india too, i have had good exposure to hindi and also exposure to urdu, so it does help me understand some of gulzars lyrics. I think gulzar tries to be like Mirza Galib, but uses hindi words also. I also love Rahman gulzar combo, it's just I have to listen the song in confusion for some time before I fully understand the meaning of it. I mean who can forget Ae Ajnabi, dil se re, etc. Gulzar is amazing,a legend, he's different, yes, but all I said was he was overrated compared to javed sahab and that brought these flood of messages. should Rahman work with Gulzar - absolutely, I would love hear gulzars lyrics in RAhmans private albums, it would give it a different height all together, but for commercial stuff, I would go with javed sahab or Prasoon joshi. If it's gulzar lyrics, the weight heavily lies on Music to carry the lyrics. In case of Javed sahab the weight is somewhat evenly carried by music and lyrics. Dil se was a superhit mostly because it has out of the world music, even if Himesh Reshmaiya had sang Chaiya and Surma Bhopali had written the lyrics for it, it would still be a super hit. May be I should do this in future or Gopal can do this every post that way we know when to attack and when not to: Message: About lyrics not music ARR/non-ARR: Related to ARR but not directly. Positive/Negative: Positive (concerned about the popularity/sell- ability of Rahman's songs) Opinion/Fact: One person's opinion Group attack [yes/no]: No, not required. because it says LYRICS is 'overrated' not MUSIC. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Leslie D [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: Although slightly off topic for a ARR group, this is the best post I have seen in ages.. Very well said .. Exactly what I felt like but to be true, I would have never been able to write it so beautifully. Great Job .. Thanks On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Dear Lalisingh, i beg to differ. Gulzar is a very, very different lyricist. he is special, because he uses words, different words for sure, to give a different sensibility. and more importantly, he is probably the only lyricist who is fascinated by and who emphasizes on the sound of the words. his poetry is something which involves aesthetic imaginatin rather than pure word meanings. Like if he writes Saansein Uljhi hui hain, it doesnt mean that someone is having breathing problems..it is more indepth
Re: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? - Raag Bheempalas vs. Hindolam
Hi! Prabhu, Inisai Mazhai from GodFather is in raag Hindolam. Hindolam is a Janya raaga of Natabhairavi raagam. The ascent and descent of Hindolam: S G2 M1 D1 N2 S || S N2 D1 M1 G2 S Abheri, on the otherhand is a Janya raaga of Karaharapriya raagam Abheriascent and descent: S G2 M1 P N2 S || S N2 D2 P M1 G2 R2 S Observe the ascent notations. You are able to discern some similarity because all the notes are same, except for P(pa), which is replaced by D1 (dha), which is just one key shift. Now, Observe the descent, the transformation from Abheri to Hindolam can be obtained if we change: D2-- D1 Introduce P Knock off R2. In all, the descent has lesser extent of overlap than the ascent where there is only a single note shift. Hence you are probably losing your way from Abheri to Hindolam. Hope this helps. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Prabhu Rajagopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Prabhu Rajagopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? - Raag Bheempalas To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 11:24 PM Thanks Kamal! A small question, is the song Innisai from Godfather/Varulaaru based on Raag Abheri? Whenever I hear Manmohini (fantastic composition) I am reminded of Innisai... Manmohini and Innisai (chorus version) are, in my opinion, two of the most excellent fusion songs by ARR bringing Indian classical together with nice electronica! thanks! Prabhu 2008/10/17 Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Hi! Manmohini is based on raag Bheempalas, whose carnatic equivalent is Abheri. ARR's own Bheempalas/Abheri compositions include: 1. Kannodu - Jeans - Abheri 2. Kismat se tum - Pukaar (one of the beautiful Bheempalas compsotions in Hindi film music) 3. Radha Kaise Na Jale - beautiful indeed, Bheempalas. 4. Lucky Lucky - Rakshagan - Abheri 5. Shabba Shabba - Abheri (this is one freaky abheri, i could figure it out initially, till i looked at the interludes) 6. Kelamal - ATM (i am not sure abt whole song but the opening tune,Ketka rasika paada unrai... is abheri for sure..) There could be more, but i remembered only these now.. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal- aakarsh.blogspot .com --- On Fri, 10/17/08, nivensamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: nivensamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 9:50 AM Manmohini is my new ringtone... And, yes i was amazed to hear Vijay Prakash voice like HAriharan... Im addicted to this track... and whats worst is that it ends when its getting better... wish there was a part 2... :-( VERY VERY Good music Taal is the past, Yuvvraaj, the future. Niven (Mauritius) --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After Kisna's Kaahe Ujaadi Mori Neend (by ID), Ghai has again used a pure classical song Manmohini. That sounds so good and rare. That is one area that Anu Malik and Himesh and Pritam would never touch because it is just beyond their capabilities. Any master of classical music here? Which Raga is Manmohini based on? Any other film songs (non-ARR) based on that Raga? Thanks. -- Rawat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? - Raag Bheempalas
Hi! Manmohini is based on raag Bheempalas, whose carnatic equivalent is Abheri. ARR's own Bheempalas/Abheri compositions include: 1. Kannodu - Jeans - Abheri 2. Kismat se tum - Pukaar (one of the beautiful Bheempalas compsotions in Hindi film music) 3. Radha Kaise Na Jale - beautiful indeed, Bheempalas. 4. Lucky Lucky - Rakshagan - Abheri 5. Shabba Shabba - Abheri (this is one freaky abheri, i could figure it out initially, till i looked at the interludes) 6. Kelamal - ATM (i am not sure abt whole song but the opening tune,Ketka rasika paada unrai... is abheri for sure..) There could be more, but i remembered only these now.. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Fri, 10/17/08, nivensamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nivensamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Which Raga is Manmohini? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 9:50 AM Manmohini is my new ringtone... And, yes i was amazed to hear Vijay Prakash voice like HAriharan... Im addicted to this track... and whats worst is that it ends when its getting better... wish there was a part 2... :-( VERY VERY Good music Taal is the past, Yuvvraaj, the future. Niven (Mauritius) --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After Kisna's Kaahe Ujaadi Mori Neend (by ID), Ghai has again used a pure classical song Manmohini. That sounds so good and rare. That is one area that Anu Malik and Himesh and Pritam would never touch because it is just beyond their capabilities. Any master of classical music here? Which Raga is Manmohini based on? Any other film songs (non-ARR) based on that Raga? Thanks. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] When we wil get the audio of yuvraaj? Pls reply
Yuvraaj promos on TV say that the audio will be out on Oct 15th!! Although we can check audio shops on 15th..i guess it is better to expect it on 17th.. Better to expect a slight delay than facing disappointment... Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Sun, 10/12/08, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] When we wil get the audio of yuvraaj? Pls reply To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 3:14 PM October 17th... On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, aneesh ani mohdaneeshkp@ yahoo.com wrote: Any bdy pls cnfrm about the audio of yuvraaj.plss any news about the tracklist.any new promos out in music channels -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
Re: [arr] Rahman snubs Yash Chopra...dishonest journalism
HI! Even i think the news article was not in right sense. The language, tone used in it appears to be too far fetched. Also, the writer used some sort of direct speech in it, as if he was there during the discussions between ARR and Yash Chopra. Other misinterpreted issues are: 1. ARR refusing a film for money!! impossible..how did Sangamam, Ada etc happen? For that matter, what are the budgets of Deepa Mehta films? 2. ARR working ONLY in nights!!! -- Rahman himself refuted that he doesnt always work during nights. there are hundreds of songs he made during daytime. Now, even about Yash Chopra... Although his brand of cinema is different (forget abt someone liking or disliking it, it is matter of personal taste), why would he mind about recording timings, recording studio etc, if he really wants quality music from ARR? And when he is known for spending a lot on his films (extravagant sets or swiss locales etc), why would he act stingy when it comes to music...that too, when he himself is seeking a composer he admired, admittedly? Guys, dont get carried away by the article. in my opinion, the article shows both ARR and Yash Chopra in negtive light. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Rahman snubs Yash Chopra To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 9:53 PM I dont believe in this... ARR getting angry for money matters, and turning down a project.. I dont understand why should Directors want or demand ARR to work according to their schedules... Staying awake in the nights and recording is ARR 's wish and comfort. That cant be areason at all Sounds very foolish to me. If Yashraj cant be awake in the night, he can very well go during the day, and ask ARR to play the tune, that he has recorded. Is Yash Raj Studios better than Panchathan or AM studios. ?? BIG LOL On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:00 PM, adnanakkm4u adnanakkm4u@ yahoo.com wrote: Rahman snubs Yash Chopra (BMC) 11 October 2008 Music maestro turns down opportunity to work with the legenadary Chopra due to money matters Going by the recent fate of YashRaj Films at the box-office since his retirement, Yash Chopra decided to make a comeback for one last time. However, Yashji's plans of pulling a grand casting coup failed thanks to music maestro A R Rahman. Due to his friendship with the Bachchan family, Yashji signed Amitabh Bachchan and Abhishek Bachchan and even convinced them to work in the film with Shah Rukh Khan. But it wasn't the cast that Yashji was worried about; it was getting his dream music director, A R Rahman that he was more concerned with. Says a YashRaj source, ìYashji is a big fan of Rehman but he never got to work with him because Aditya isn't too fond of Rehman's brand of music. Since this is Yashji's last directorial film he was adamant on fulfilling his dream by getting Rehman to score the music of his romantic musical drama.î Yashji personally called Rahman for a meeting. Rahman was equally excited to receive a call from the legend, but what followed later was something that Rahman never expected. Reportedly, Yashji put a list of demands on Rahman which upset him so much that he walked out of the meeting. A source close to Rahman reveals, ìRahman works only at night and Yashji was informed about this before the meeting. Despite knowing this, Yashji demanded that Rahman should work in the day because Yashji owing to his health could only work in the day. He also insisted that Rahman should record only at the YashRaj studios and even stay in the studios during the recording.î Apparently, Rahman agreed to all this but what transpired after this is what angered Rahman. When it came to Rahman's fee, Yashji offered him an extremely paltry sum and when Rahman protested Yashji reportedly said, ìYou should consider yourself lucky that you are getting to compose music for a Yash Chopra film. This is a privilege and not all music directors get this chance.î This angered Rahman, who is a legend himself. He excused himself from the meeting and never returned. Later Rahman asked his office to tell Yashji that Rahman wasn't interested in his project. Yashji tried getting in touch with Rahman but the latter has been avoiding him. With little choice left, one last heard that Yashji is in talks with the trio of Shankar-Ehsaan and Loy to compose music for this film. source:http://www.khaleejt imes.com/ citytimes/ inside.asp? xfile=/data/ citytimes/ 2008/October/ citytimes_ October77. xmlsection=ci tytimes -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
[arr] Is Yuvraaj tracklisting true and complete?
Hi! someone just sent a tracklisting of Yuvraaj album. I would like to know if it is authentic. Also, i am surprised to see that there are no instrumental pieces (unlike Taal and Kisna) in this album..especially when the general feel is that the film has something to do with western classical music (Katrina Kaif plays a Cello player in this film). Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com
Re: [arr] Disney foray into film production in India
it is not Marmayogi.. Marmayogi is directed by Kamal Haasan himself and not by Bharatbala. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Vijay Anand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vijay Anand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Disney foray into film production in India To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:04 PM it is Marmayogi On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Matthew Islam matthewislam@ gmail.com wrote: Which film is this? This came out like a bolt out of the blue. Anyone? On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:01 AM, satish_srini satish_srini@ yahoo.com wrote: The 19th Step will be a lavish production with an Indo-Japanese cast. This is an interesting film because it's a multilingual which will primarily be in Tamil and it is one of those unique films that will potentially be a global film. It's got some elements of martial arts. We are proud to be associated with Kamal Haasan and A.R. Rahman. http://www.hindu. com/2008/ 10/01/stories/ 2008100157982200 .htm
Re: [arr] UPCOMING ARR MOVIES TEASER POSTERS
Hey Vithur, I know about all other films, but i am curious about Tasveer. Is ARR really working with Nagesh Kukunoor? Gopal! Any idea? Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Sun, 9/28/08, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] UPCOMING ARR MOVIES TEASER POSTERS To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:40 PM UPCOMING ARR MOVIES TEASER POSTERS Endhiran: http://upload. wikimedia. org/wikipedia/ en/0/07/Endhiran .png Dilli 6: http://upload. wikimedia. org/wikipedia/ en/b/bd/Dilli6. jpg Tasveer (previously 8x10, Nagesh Kukunoor film): http://upload. wikimedia. org/wikipedia/ en/9/92/Tasveer. jpg Slumdog Millionaire: http://www.mtv. com/movies/ photos/c/ cannes_posters_ 051908/slumdog_ millionaire. jpg Chennaiyil Oru Mazhai kaalam: http://upload. wikimedia. org/wikipedia/ en/e/e2/Chennaiy il-Oru-Mazhaikaa lam.jpg from orkut -- regards, Vithur ARR in my Heart; His Music in my Blood;
Re: [arr] Ash plays classical singer in Ravan
Maniratnam filmClassical singing... Rahman's music.. The elements seem to be already giving a lift to expectations. But this news about 'Adaptation of Ramayana' seems little surprising (or should i say, disappointing). Not that the movie would be good or bad.. But you know.. when a bit of news about a substantl element, is out .. the expectations go up.. more so in the case of Maniratnam films.. and when the actual film turns out in a different dimension (forget about it being good or bad), people say it is a let down. Maniratnam, in my opinion, should stick to his old ways of keeping everything under the wraps, instead of giving a peek into it and then maintaining suspense. Infact, i didnt know any news-bit about all his films before 'Guru', which is why i think i enjoyed them more...because of no 'pre-imaginative expectations'. Only in the case of Guru, there was this publicity about ' A cut-throat businessman's story from rags to riches' and there people went speculating about the character he was playing..which turned to be true anyways. Expectations apart, i hope his upcoming film turns out good. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Fri, 9/19/08, Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Ash plays classical singer in Ravan To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 4:44 PM Sa Re gaana Aishwarya Rai is learning classical singing for her role in Mani Ratnam's Raavan, a contemporary version of the Ramayana Back to Section Stories Posted On Friday, September 19, 2008 Mumbai Mirror Bureau Aishwarya Rai Aishwarya Rai has reached a stage in her career where she wants to excel at every part she plays. At the moment, she's in Peru giving all she's got to her part as Rajnikant's love interest in Shankar's Tamil film, Robot. After that, Ash will return to the country and get busy with Mani Ratnam's next film, Raavan. The film is a sensuous contemporary Hindi take on the Ramayana, in which Aishwarya will be playing a classical singer for the first time in her career. And there will be no half-measures for Aishwarya. A source says, Aishwarya will be learning classical singing for this role. Ideally, she'd like to sing all her songs in Raavan, herself . She's a very good singer in real life. But not good enough to sing classical songs on screen with aplomb. So, like Shabana Azmi in Morning Raga Aishwarya intends to take lessons in how to look convincing as a singer. She'll be regularly taking lessons in classical singing from a guru. Aishwarya will also do riyaaz before she starts shooting for Raavan in October. She wants to make sure she doesn't goof up in the scenes in which she'll be singing on screen, adds the source. Mani Ratnam Not just that, since Aishwarya's mother-in-law Jaya Bachchan had played a singer in Hrishikesh Mukherjee's Abhimaan, Aishwarya also plans to watch the film to get it right. The source says, Ash was in any case planning to see Abhimaan again because Rajiv Menon is remaking Abhimaan with her and Abhishek in the lead role. Now, she'll be observing her mother-in-law even more closely to take tips on how to look convincing as a singer. Interestingly, ma-in-law Jaya had closely observed melody queen Lata Mangeshkar before playing a singer in Abhimaan. The family that sings together stays together! http://www.mumbaimi rror.com/ net/mmpaper. aspx?page= articlesectid= 30contentid= 2008091920080919 030846876937c13e b
Re: [arr] Abhimaan once more
Yes...it could be so. Also, please observe...the film-maker (rajeev menon) did not confirm or refute the aspect of it being a remake of Abhimaan. Going by the news article, the only similarity between Abhimaan and Dhun is that the lead actors in both films are singers. Probably the journalist imagined it to be a remake of Abhimaan, when he heard that the lead actors are singers. Hence, we cannot speculate till there is any confirmed news. Also..Rajeev Menon says that his film will go on floors after Maniratnam's film with same actors is wrapped up. Now,Maniratnam's film itself has not yet started shooting. I guess Dhun will hit screens in the end of 2009 probably... So..we neednt build up anticipatory excitement now itself... :) Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Abhimaan once more To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 2:14 PM I think it is still Dhun. Abhimaan was the name of the original. On 9/2/08, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Is this the same DHUN which is being renamed as Abhimaan ? On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Pradeepan R pradeepanisonline@ gmail.com wrote: Good news. On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Abhimaan once more Can Abhishek Bachchan and Aishwarya Rai recreate the chemistry of Amitabh and Jaya Bachchan in the remake of Abhimaan? Back to Section Stories Posted On Tuesday, September 02, 2008 Kunal M Shah Abhishek Bachchan and Aishwarya Now, this is called truly following in your parents' footsteps. According to industry insiders, Abhishek Bachchan and Aishwarya Rai are set to recreate the magic once created by Amitabh and Jaya Bachchan in Hrishikesh Mukherjee's classic, Abhimaan. Abhishek Bachchan and Aishwarya Rai have been signed on for Rajeev Menon's next film, which is based on Abhimaan, where the sizzling chemistry between Amitabh and Jaya had once set the screen ablaze. The film will go on the floors in February 2009, and has music by A R Rahman. Our source says, Rajeev was very keen to make the film with Aishwarya Rai and Abhishek Bachchan. The film has the backdrop of music and both Aishwarya Rai and Abhishek are playing singers in the film. In fact, Aishwarya was so excited about the film that she immediately gave dates for the shooting. Amitabh and Jaya Bachchan The husband-wife duo is currently working on Mani Ratnam's film, Ravana, which is based on the Ramayana. After that, they will start shooting for Rajeev's film. Rajeev had earlier worked with Aishwarya Rai in Kandukondain Kandukondain, which released in 2000. When contacted, Rajeev Menon confirmed the news, saying, Yes it is true that I am making a film with Abhishek and Aishwarya. I will be starting the film in February and A R Rahman has composed the music. When we asked him what his film is about, he said he was busy, and hung up. About Abhimaan Subeer Kumar (Amitabh) is on his way to becoming India's top pop singer. He has no intention of getting married, but when he visits his Durga Mausi, he falls in love with the simple Uma, by whose voice he's enchanted. He marries her and returns to Mumbai, where he announces that he will never sing without Uma again. However, Subeer encourages Uma to sing alone. Soon her success overtakes his, and the seeds of jealousy begin to grow in him. MumbaiMirror -- Cheers, Pradeepan. All you need to do is, decide what to do with the time that is given to you ! -- regards, Vithur ARR -- The Sweet Cube always
Re: [arr] The rhythm of Shivamani's life
Hi! I am not trying to stir a controversy here abut i am just bring out my natural reaction, as an observation. Was it really Rahman who brought Sivamani into films? i doubt so. I think it was SPB. or KVM. or even Ilaiyaraaja. Although he mentioned the former two names, i am surprised Sivamani forgot to mention ilaiyaraaja there. afterall, Sivamani was with IR. it is not sure who brough Sivamani into films, i think it could be SPB. Sivamani infact acted as a negro drummer in a Telugu film, way back in early 80s, for which SPB composed music. So it could be SPB. It would been appropriate if he had credited Rahman for market-visibility, rather than just entry into films. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Wed, 8/20/08, aneeshksasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: aneeshksasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] The rhythm of Shivamani's life To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 12:17 PM Hai all, Rahman brought me to films : I remember it was a rainy evening, with Dilip (A R Rahman) and I sipping coffee. We were at his studio and I started playing on the spiral drums. All of a sudden, he said: `why don't you work with me?' Everything happened so fast that my first recording for Roja was completed without my being aware of it. Dilip just switched on the recording machine while I played.I feel proud of myself : I have worked with Zakir Hussain, Louis Banks, Karl Peters, Shankar Mahadevan, Andrew Lloyd Webber, James Asher and Steven Segal. I have even formed a band called Silk. But if I am really close to anyone, it is S P Balasubramaniam, who is my godfather; Louis Banks; and A R Rahman, a childhood friend and my composer in Roja, Rangeela, Taal and Lagaan. http://timesofindia .indiatimes. com/articleshow/ 73245.cms
[arr] A small Baby adores Rahman's music
Friends, Please visit this link: http://chinmayisripada.blogspot.com/2008/08/have-you-seen-this-video.html Singer Chinmayi has put up a video there. The video shows a small baby who stops crying when his favourite song starts playing..and the song is tere bina from Guru. Really fantastic video. wish Rahman sees this video. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com
Re: [arr] Rahman to westernize Thirukkural? - Hope it is untrue..
Friends, Please dont mistake me. I am not trying to make something controversial here. Neither I am denouncing his capabilities. As an admirer of his music, i naturally feel good if he is associated with best projects and not controversial ones. Ofcourse, we do not have a right to decide what he should do and what he shouldnt. we are not capable too. Yet, my only point is about westernizing and rap part of it. If Rahman composes thirukkal (i am sorry if i spelt it wrong, i am not a tamilian), with great artists of classical music, i would be first to grab the cd. because you can instantly expect purity in it. But when an album (be it any composer) is marketed with an aim to take it closer to youngsters by westernizing it, i feel they lost the logic. Why is it that Youngsters is equated with Westernization?We have many classical musicians whose fans include many youngsters. at the same time, many western songs are liked by many old people too. The moment one decides an agenda such as youngsters - western - rap, i feel the purity is lost... in dilution. We have 100s of devotional-fusion type of albums these days, where chants and mantras are sung along with beats. In the name of fusion, whats been dished out is different. How many are making a mark with people? in market? in music scene? I am not saying Rahman will sacrifice melody and all. Infact it is premature for us to discuss this all. I am writing this mail only to reason out my apprehension, primarily because of the westernize-Rap element involved. As always, I will be very glad if rahman throws up a pleasant surprise. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Sat, 8/2/08, zlksru suresh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: zlksru suresh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Rahman to westernize Thirukkural? - Hope it is untrue.. To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 2:23 PM hi guys.. its a good news but even i fear abt this news.. the reason is the remake wil undoubtedly be good to hear , but will people of all generations accept it? the youth wil start liking it very easily.. the question is abt our older generation people.. they jus wouldn accept this idea i feel... anyway as of now lets wait for the big show.. regards, ashwini --- On Sat, 2/8/08, Thineshan anatomy54321@ yahoo.ca wrote: From: Thineshan anatomy54321@ yahoo.ca Subject: Re: [arr] Rahman to westernize Thirukkural? - Hope it is untrue.. To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, 2 August, 2008, 2:39 AM i cant believe you guys are still doubting arrs talents. gowsalya suprabatham that was made famous my ms subbuluxmi (which is a song that you associate with mornings) was once again redefined and made famous by ARR in margazhi poovae. the way the tune was used was even better than the original. have faith. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, murali ramakrishnan dippythejammy@ ... wrote: boss,he will really take it to another level without spoiling To: arrahmanfans@ ...: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:26:38 -0700Subject: Re: [arr] Rahman to westernize Thirukkural? - Hope it is untrue.. Thats sad,,i hope it untrue.. Rahman respects traditional elements a lot..atleast in music, as far as i know..and i dont think he will tamper that..he souldnt..bcoz thats unlike of him.. RegardsKamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal- aakarsh.blogspot .com --- On Fri, 7/25/08, rahmanfever rahmanfever@ ... wrote: From: rahmanfever rahmanfever@ ...Subject: [arr] Rahman to westernize Thirukkural? To: arrahmanfans@ ...: Friday, July 25, 2008, 5:00 PM Rahman to westernize Thirukkural? July 25, 2008 In a recent interview to a tabloid, A R Rahman expressed his desire to release the Tamil verse collection Thirukkural in rap format. He replied so when asked what would be his contribution to the younger generation. Rahman further mentioned that the project would involve desi Rapper Blazee, who is already on the job of preparing the format and would be a novel attempt to popularize Tamil literature. As per Rahman, Blazee would sing Thirukkural in rap version and Carnatic music would be used to mix in the background. Rahman was also quoted as saying by the tabloid that he would only produce the album and music would be rendered by Blazee himself. -- regards.. Krish... His Music ~ My Mother Tongue Rahman is born with so much of humility. He doesn't differentiate between singers and gives all singers the same amount of respect. More importantly, he does not discourage a new singer.When I met Rahman initially, he said, 'I dont know how long I will last in an industry where there are great 'jambavans'. I'll last for 5 years at the most'. Then, I met him 5 years later and he said God has given me 5 moreyears. Now, it's been 20 years he still rules. He's a good humanbeing and a great composer -- SPB Sirhttp
Re: [arr] Rahman to westernize Thirukkural? - Hope it is untrue..
Thats sad,,i hope it untrue.. Rahman respects traditional elements a lot..atleast in music, as far as i know..and i dont think he will tamper that..he souldnt..bcoz thats unlike of him.. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com --- On Fri, 7/25/08, rahmanfever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: rahmanfever [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Rahman to westernize Thirukkural? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 5:00 PM Rahman to westernize Thirukkural? July 25, 2008 In a recent interview to a tabloid, A R Rahman expressed his desire to release the Tamil verse collection Thirukkural in rap format. He replied so when asked what would be his contribution to the younger generation. Rahman further mentioned that the project would involve desi Rapper Blazee, who is already on the job of preparing the format and would be a novel attempt to popularize Tamil literature. As per Rahman, Blazee would sing Thirukkural in rap version and Carnatic music would be used to mix in the background. Rahman was also quoted as saying by the tabloid that he would only produce the album and music would be rendered by Blazee himself. -- regards.. Krish... His Music ~ My Mother Tongue Rahman is born with so much of humility. He doesn't differentiate between singers and gives all singers the same amount of respect. More importantly, he does not discourage a new singer.When I met Rahman initially, he said, 'I dont know how long I will last in an industry where there are great 'jambavans'. I'll last for 5 years at the most'. Then, I met him 5 years later and he said God has given me 5 moreyears. Now, it's been 20 years he still rules. He's a good humanbeing and a great composer -- SPB Sir http://www.orkut. co.in/AlbumList. aspx?uid= 7295035299513517 297
Re: [arr] ARR's view on Remix -- Changed
Hi! I very much remember A.R.Rahman saying that the concept of remix is not a good. THe exact statement which i remember him syaing was Nobody has right to touch someone's compositions. I remember it well because those exactly were/are my thoughts on remixes. Remix is exactly touching someone's work and making money out of it. its like giving a new dress to Monalisa's painting and marketing it. It is also derogatory in the sense that by adding something new to someone else's work, a wrong message is conveyed to original composer - your rhythms, background music is no longer good but my addition makes it better. this is just like an insult to someone's work. The concept of Remix works fine only when a song is remixed by the original composer himself since it is his baby afterall. He alone is entitled to do whatever with it. Sad that A.R.Rahman changed his stance on Remixes. I wish he didnt. My 2 cents! Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com there are two ways to live life.one is as though nothing is a miracle. and the other is as though everything is a miracle. choose yours... --- On Sat, 6/21/08, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] ARR's view on Remix To: ARRFANS arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 9:35 AM On the BBC show in Radio One (Chennai), music directors were asked about their views on Remix. Here's what ARR had to say: There's so much of exposure these days... we keep listening to a song and (in our minds) the tune gets attached with the backing music in the song like how a pickle gets soaked... Remixing is about taking that tune from that original surrounding and present it in an interesting way thereby utilising the popularity of the song also... If done well, it will be interesting, otherwise it will be the most boring and irritating thing to do. i've uploaded the audio clip at: http://www.4shared. com/file/ 52137954/ ea650727/ Aravind http://arrahmaniac. blogspot. com
Re: [arr] Manirathnam's Pack of Surprises
Lyrics??? Who is doing Lyrics? Pray its Gulzar! - Aakarsh Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manirathnam's Pack of Surprises A Dream Cast for his next film After Guru in 2007, Master Craftsman Manirathnam is back with his next venture. As expected it will be a bilingual in Hindi and Tamil. The film yet to be titled will have Abhishek Bachchan playing the lead role in Hindi and for the first time, Vikram will star in Mani's film. The actor who is busy completing his forthcoming biggie 'Kandasamy' will play the lead in the Tamil Version. Understandably Vikram is all excited and upbeat on working with Maniratnam. Mani' find and favourite Aishwarya Rai plays the female lead in both the versions. Well, Mani's films always have some pack of surprises in terms of casting and this film is no different. Prithviraj is donning the baddie cap in both the versions. Whats more, its a dream team in the making with Ace Cameraman P C Sreeram and Manirathnam join g hands after a long break. The duo was last seen rocking in Alaipayudey. No prizes for guessing the Man Music for the film. Yes, A R Rahman. Shooting of the film is likely to commence in September this year. http://www.chennaionline.com/Film/News/May08/05article49.aspx Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com there are two ways to live life.one is as though nothing is a miracle. and the other is as though everything is a miracle. choose yours...
[arr] ADA - Traces
Hi! Here are few quick observayions: 1. Mujhe Milo Wahaan - The take off is similar (or probably the same) to Climax BGM of Kannthil Muthamittal (is it a coincidence that the very same BGMs were being shared on this forum barely 2 days ago) 2. Ishq Ada Hai (Female Version): The guitar chords of the female version of this song... they reminded me of piano chords of an ilaiyaraja song Pottakkal pottaalum from film Chathrian. I do not wish to rake up any controversy here because it is not a lift but the usage style is similar and even ilaiyaraja was inspired by a western classical piece in that song. So probably ARR too was inspired (inspired as in the real sense of its actual dictionary meaning..and not the current meaning as advocated by other composers today) from the same western classical piece. and yes, the song starts off with Mayamalavagowla raaga i think..but then it changes to different raga. More analysis later. 3. I felt the male of version of Ishq Ada hai would have been more better if Rahman himself sang it..because the slants in that song suit his voice..or rather it is his territory. Regards Aakarsh Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com there are two ways to live life.one is as though nothing is a miracle. and the other is as though everything is a miracle. choose yours...
Re: [arr] Bharat Ratna to A.R.Rahman
Guys, Let admiration not over-ride sensibilities.It is the highest award given to only veterans. There were many great composers before Rahman era who were not given that award. As far as i can remember, two musicians who received that award are Lata Mangeshkar and Pt.Ravi Shankar. Now to reach such stature, Rahman needs lot of time and more illustrious work. It too early.. my opinion. Regards Aakarsh sri ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are absolutely right brother the mightiest man in IMI should definitely be given the mightiest title in India. Why not we guys appeal to the concerned authorities,say something like a document that would request our boss's name to be considered for Bharat Ratna - Original Message From: Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 11 January, 2008 10:10:14 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Bharat Ratna to A.R.Rahman Bharat Ratna , Oscar.. U give him any number.. still U will be left with some award which will make U feel he deserves that also. ARR - WONDER OF WONDERS On 1/11/08, Aaditya(Addy) *COOL* adityacool6@ yahoo.co. in wrote: A.R.Rahman , the name itself shows how powerful it is. Well i am not talking about his name, but about his contribution to the Indian music industry. A.R.Rahman, the man who changed the whole concept of music in Indian cinema .The reformer of the Indian music. The man whose first album itself was a huge success . He was the first Indian music composer to work in any Hollywood movie. His album such as Bombay Dreams had topped the charts in UK and ofcourse who can forget Vandemataram, WOHE and many others. The man who after serving the music industry for almost 15 years is still the number 1. The man who won National Awards 4 times,19 times Filmfare Awards,9 times Cine Awards,7 times IIFA Awards,7 times Screen Awards and many other awards. He was given Padmashree in 2000 . I think its high time for him to be given BHARAT RATNA . Your thoughts on this . - Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click here. -- regards, Vithur A.R.RAHMAN - THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC - Sent from Yahoo! - a smarter inbox. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com there are two ways to live life.one is as though nothing is a miracle. and the other is as though everything is a miracle. choose yours... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [arr] Arr...why is he not crediting Illayaraja
HI! I dont dispute the fact that ARR revolutionized Indian Film Music, but IR belongs to the generation before ARR. Besides, ARR is a humble disciple of IR. So, it would be nice of him if he credits his guru when he talks about learning music. He can credit many others too, but the fact that IR was the biggest musical phenomenon prior to ARR must not be forgotten. IR cannot credit ARR because IR didnt learn anything from ARR (musically atleast, although both learnt programming techniques while working together). Also, instead of weaving rivalry between them (and their fans), one should genuinely agree that both are geniuses in their own ways. and It would be such a nice event to see ARR saying a good word or two, about his one time master. Atleast, Rahman being hs humble and down to earth self, should credit his guru. and regarding why IR never credited ARR...well, the analogies can be many. R.D.Burman always credited his father S.D.Burman for instilling music in him...but did S.D.Burman ever talk about R.D.Burman? Did Shiv Kumar Sharma ever credit Rahul Sharma (both are santoor maestros)? never. that doesnt mean that there was any rivalry...its just a generation seldom talks about next generation. I am sure Rahman wouldnt credit some composer X, who could be at the top (however good or bad he may be...) 10 years from now. Its only the next generation which should look up to the previous one, with veneration. I too was taken aback when rahman doesnt speak about his musical experiences (musical learnings, apart from the fact that IR made great music without alcohol, which rahman often says) with IR. afterall, ARR was the only rightful successor to IR, because both have a pious appraoch towards music. - Regards Aakarsh. Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does IR credit ARR for the music revolution ARR has made to the Indian music industry? how can u expect the other way around? the interview was good and ARR was spot on. On 9/8/07, anishshreya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Guys, In the interview with NDTV...arr seems to credit alot of old composers like MSV and KV Mahadevanbut he seems not to credit Illayarajai am sure there have been alot if stuff he learnt from IR.Maybe he should also credit Illayaraja evenly. Talking abt names like visha shekar and shankar eshan loyi would have been glad if he would have rather said something abt ilayaraja where in terms of class..he is far apart from many composers in the 80s. Comeon...afterall...our boss came from illayaraja school When Gangai Amaran brother of illayaraja can credit arr...why not our boss? Boss should really speak abt IR in some intervoews and the days when they were working together. Arr always --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Amith Chandhran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe it is taken on 10th August. :-) On 9/8/07, $*$ PaVaN $*$ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya..its a new one..rahman talks abt janaganamana...thn shreya ghosal winning flimfare award and many more.. Watched it yesterday on NDTV..nice one :-) *Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before seems like a new one to me http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/videopod/default.aspx? id=16843 -A http://www.mymailsignature.com/ http://www.mymailsignature.com/?partner=ZGzeb001 -- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48248/*http://search.yahoo.com/search ?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com there are two ways to live life.one is as though nothing is a miracle. and the other is as though everything is a miracle. choose yours... - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[arr] Golden Age on Nov 02, 2007
http://www.workingtitlefilms.com/trailers/golden_small.htm The Golden Age releasing on November 2, 2007. Regards Aakarsh. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com there are two ways to live life.one is as though nothing is a miracle. and the other is as though everything is a miracle. choose yours... - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
Re: [arr] Duet Saxophone
It was Kadri Gopalnath, the carnatic exponent...he played in the song Soukhyama for ARR's 'Sangamam'. Aakarsh prakash_raptors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, i need your help... Can u tell me who played the saxophone for boss's composition in Duet? I'd appreciate it... Thanks Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com there are two ways to live life.one is as though nothing is a miracle. and the other is as though everything is a miracle. choose yours... - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.
[arr] What Happened to Provoked OST?
Hi! What happened to the OST of film Provoked?, which was to be released on EROS Music? Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com there are two ways to live life.one is as though nothing is a miracle. and the other is as though everything is a miracle. choose yours... - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: [arr] Rahman may give music to kirtans of Annamacharya
I hope Rahman doesnt change the original tune of the compositions or the melody. because no composer should change the traditional krithis. it will invite the wrath of many people and also marks disrespect to the original composer (Saint Annamaacharya). At the best, he can only embellish with background music...like he did for Vandemataram-Revival in his album vandemataram.. I hope this message reaches him Regards Aakarsh. Adi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.greatandhra.com/movies/news/mar2007/reha_music.php Tirupati: Tirumala-Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD) wants to rope in composer A R Rehman to give music to the famous Annamacharya kirtans. Rehman would be the ambassador to popularise the kirtans among the youth. So we are planning to give the Rehman touch to at least some of the kirtans so that it would have an impact on the youth, said officiating director of project Bhuman Subramanyam Reddy Saint poet Annamacharya had composed nearly 32,000 songs in praise of the Lord of which only 12,000 are available. TTD would be observing the 504th death anniversary of Annamacharya from March 15 to 22. A spiritual-cultural event has been arranged at Tallapaka, the birth place of the poet in Kadapa district, where nearly 1000 students from Annamacharya Engineering College would take part in a community devotional singing programme. Regards Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla. http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com there are two ways to live life.one is as though nothing is a miracle. and the other is as though everything is a miracle. choose yours... - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
Re: [arr] edited Jaage hain
Dear Gopal others, The song isnt recorded with these lyrics..Gulzarji recited these lyrics during the music launch function..even i was wondering what happened to the last two lines...anyways, it must be in movie... whatever..exceptionally good poetry.. Regards Aakarsh. Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Puneet, Thanks for the information! Was the song recorded with these lyrics?Will the edited lyrics feature in the movie? And any idea why they were edited out? Thanks, Gopal. - Original Message From: puneet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:34:39 PM Subject: [arr] edited Jaage hain hi to all rahman fans, here is the full jaage hain as written... Jaage Hain der tak Humin Kuch der sone Do Thodi si raat aur hain subah to hone do Aadhe adhure Khwab Jo Poore Na Ho Sake Ek Baar Phir se nind mein wo Khwab Bone Do Ek Khawab Toot Jaane Ka Ahsaas Hi to hain thodi si raat aur Sahar paas hi to Hain but in the cassacts and cd's we have edited version. puneet __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [arr] Re: Bappi Lahiri sings title song in Guru
This is one of teh biggest disappointments that rahman gave me.Ofcourse, i might change my opinion if the song is good..otherwise..i am disappointed.Regards Aakarsh.Anish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Actually, Bappi was a trendsetter and highly talented compose and singer. You will understand if you compare that generation (80's and 90's) music and his level of composition, perfection inmixing and his singing style. Bappi is extremely talented. Only thing is that, he got sunk by some of the bollywood lobby's. Singing with rahman, be it the worst singer in the world. Rahman will bring the best out of them. Or else he will not take them. And Bappi is one of the biggest trend setters in Indian cinema. Who's music will live forever. Remember, ViVA sang for Rahman... What more???- Anish|| V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, if this is the surprise, then it's surely a huge surprise but[no offense] its kindaweird surprise for me!! and somewhat unpleasant!!I apologize if I've hurt any of the buppi fans out there.But one thing is for sure that I'mvery very curious to hear thistrack!!! govindh_k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats a real surprise..is that what Vijay Iyer meant as a big surprisein the mail?..let's see. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:http://www.mumbaimirror.com/nmirror/mmpaper.asp?sectid=10articleid=52420062238142185242006223751281 Bappida sings for Rahman"The search is more important than the destination " - a r rahman - Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New country music artists Christian music artists Country music artists New music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Electric Ganesha Land by Prasanna
hi!!i am unable to get this album here in hyderabad..can u tell me where can i get it?regards Aakarsh.NARASIMMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just picked up EGL by prasanna. This is prasanna's tribute album to Jimi Hendrix. The interesting fact is Prasanna in his credits mentions a big Thanks to ARR for leeting EGL to be the first album to come out of his new studio. The recording/mixing is done by H.Sridhar. the album itself is a wonderful attempt at mixing carnatic and hard rock. Some of the pieces by prasanna including one in "Snakebanger's ball" where he plays "Aaadu paaambeyvilayadu paambey" tune hard rock style are super creative and blows your mind off. A Gem to come out of ARR's studioRgdsNarasimman Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New country music artists Country music artists New music artists Christian music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Great program by Aaj Tak on ARR--SOMEONE PLZZZ RECORD.
It must have been one of the best programmes...somebody please record and lets store it in our Rahman-database..regards Aakarshsamarth_rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody,I just finished watching a special program by Aaj Tak on ARR...I amtoo excited to not post anything on this!! so here i am:It started out with them showing snippets of the interview of ARR byprabhu chawla on their program 'seedhi baat' (they dint show theinterview in entirety, but it will be telecast at 6pm on Aaj Tak, sodon't miss it!!). They then showed a snippet of prabhu chawla's interview with JavedAkhtar, in which he said that ARR was a very complex composer and thatwriting lyrics for him and fitting the right words into his songstructure was the toughest part for any lyricist...he then ended bysaying that if a lyricist can write lyrics for ARR, then he can writefor anybody (a huge compliment!).Then they proceeded to show clips of ARR's movies, starting with RDBand then proceeding onto Roja, Bombay, Rangeela, Dil Se, and Zubeidaa.They also showed some very nice clips of ARR performing on stage(singing Piya Haji Ali) and also showed clips of Vande Mataram andsaid that apart from the previous mentioned albums, Vande Mataram andJana Gana Mana also set records in terms of sales.Then they went on to talk about ARR's past (something we're all toofamiliar with by now!!). They talked about how since the beginning,ARR was interested in music and how he learnt to play the piano at avery young age. They then talked about ARR's association withIllayaraja and how after the Titan watch jingle, Mani sir chose himfor Roja and how it went on to become a super hit with ARR becoming ahousehold name. They also briefly talked about how Lataji and ARR havea great admiration for each other and that ARR was responsible forgiving Lataji more fame with Jiya Jale.They then ended the show by comparing ARR with the great composers ofyesteryears like RD Burman, Naushad saab (who sadly passed away), andOP Nayyar and said that ARR, like the afore mentioned composers, is ina league of his own who created a unique sound and created a standardto which no one can be compared too.All in all, it was 30 mins of sheer bliss and I was so proud at theend of it all! The surprising thing is that Gopal didnt post anythingon this at all and this group had no intimation about this!! and I waslucky enough to catch the program from the beginning as I was flippingthrough the channels.Do watch the program whenever they show it again today and dont forgetto tune in at 6pm for the exclusive interview...Awaiting your comments,Samarth How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New country music artists Christian music artists New music artists Country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] AR Rahman tells media that Thiruvasagam by Isai Gnani is just a masterpiece
Can Anyone translate the gist of it into English please.regards Aakarsh.Tamil Pakkam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ARR hits back at the prof who had commented earlier on Thiruvasagam by Isai Gnani IllayarajaThanksVisit us online @ www.tamilpakkam.com Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Christian music artists New country music artists New music artists Country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] Dasavatharam Issue:Why Unnecessary finding fault
Friends,I really do not understand why you people are turning into an issue. Frankly, i dont see anything wrong in the idea of 5 music directors for this film. Earlier 80s, there a couple of films where many composers shared music credits. i dont remember the names but i very well read that for a particular film, Maestro ilaiyaraaja and M.S.Vishwanatham shared credits along woth few upcoming (though they didnt flourish well) composers of that era. they didnt have any qualms about composing 1 song each in those days. Even Shankar-Ganesh, who were considered as tough competitors to Mestro Ilaiyaraaja shared the music space with him for a film or two. M.S.Vishwanathan Ilaiyaraaja gave 3/4 songs each for recent film VishwaThulasi.Even in North, a Sunny Deol film "Dillagi" had 6-8 composers, doing1 song each. They too didnt have any problem, though composers there are known for having immense ego-clashes with each other.So, when they themselves didnt have any problem/qualms about sharingmusic credts, Why should A.R.Rahman, who is very well known for his ego-less humble attitude , have any problem? i dont think he has such issues. he shared music credits with Anu Malik Himesh Reshamiya Ismail Darbar (not that they are as great as him..but still, Rahman didnt mind it) too recently, so why not his peers from tamil industry itself, where composers like Yuvan admire him.I really believe that A.Rahman is a very humble non-egoistic person and this issue is never an issue for him to reject the film.So, why are we guys trying to find fault and raising a hue cry about it.i dont think it is an insult at all. Movie field is a commercial area where lot of money goes in. i dont think someone would be spending lakhs and crores (to pay to other composers) just to insult one person..that too who is very level headed in his thinking. There are better ways to insult someone.Lets stop over-imagining things and wish Rahman that he gives a good song which beats the compositions for his peer-group. infact, i am excited about this project if rahman agrees it, because it would be like a music compeition between all of them. Just think about it guys.The bottomlineis: Rahman, being a down-to-earth person, mostly wouldnt find-fault/have no qualms with this issue. Why are We trying to do that?lets ignore it and wait for more news and if he really accepts the film, lets wish that he comes with the best song in the album. Take it sportively guys!Regards Aakarsh.jsrwm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an innovative insult for a world renowned music directorespecially who had been decided as the main MD for the movie. This isalso an innovative way of campaining by Kamalhassan for producers tochoose other MDs for their films. Guys, fill in this forum with requests to ARR not accept this offer(!!) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raja sekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: hi all fans,, me tooo,, surely ARR will come out of this project..Rajasekar haris zeenath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all fans, me t. dont agreee. arr can not be considered 1 among them. heis simply the top most md. i request arr not 2 accept this project ifther s 5 md 's world peace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree on this Ragu.i dont want ARR to be one among them. yacub On 4/26/06, arr_raghu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this is thecase, I prefer ARR pull out of the project completely rather than composing 1 or 2 songs. Better not do it at all... Raghu.--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, " M.Mahen'Z" zesty2us2000@ wrote: Sure there will be IR for one song.. (one of Kamal fav MD).. murali tharan ranix77@ wrote: Five for ten IndiaGlitz [Tuesday, April 25, 2006] Kamal Hassan, who is known for executing innovative ideas on screen, is planning a similar thing for his next Dasavatharam. The movie being directed by K S Ravi Kumar with dialogues by Crazy Mohan is expected to begin soon. The actor had left for the USA recently along with Ravikumar to finalize the script. Featuring him in 10 different roles, Kamal Hassan has mooted the idea of trying out five music-composers for the film. It seems to have won the favor of producer Oscar Ravichandran. It would now mean that five top music-directors would compose music in Dasavatharam. If like that will ARR be one of the 5. Maybe the five will be ARR, IR, Yuvan, Harris, Vidyasagar or Bharadwaj? IF so, my opinion is ARR songs will overtake others, right? I guess. Is that other MD's brave enough to face this challenge? Pls throw ur opinions please- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: admin@ To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[arr] Re: ARR with IR( no rivalry-End this misconception)
Friends,There is no rivarlry between IR ARR , as many pple believe. It is only fans who argue abt their competencies and hencebring out thr rivalry.. if there was one, why wud IR record some songs in ARR's studio( he did..i have one album which mentions that in album credits and i have seen few tamil film albums of IR which had same credits...to Panchathan Record Inn)..ARR praises IR a lot and IR too appreciated ARR's music on many occassions. and how can there be any rivalry when both worked together and understand the wave-length of each other. ot just IR, even his sons have good opinions abt ARR.and both IR and ARR have carved their own kingdoms of music...lets not debate this issue more..lets only discuss the music the technical part where the collaboration sparked magic..as in the case of Punnaghai mannan and Sadma.Aakarsh.Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: never! ARR is has the throne always. On 4/20/06, sashi3020022002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess the rivalry between arr and ir is over. Ir understands thattime has come for him to handover the baton to someone else. How..it took for someome like rahman to takeover from IR...the personwho would next take over rahman must be above the top..and must bereally be an exponent in music..will it be G.V.Prakash?--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Dinesh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes...and the last Album that ARR assisted IR was VELAIKARAN...was mentioned by ARR himselfExplore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comAdmin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Christian music artists Country music artists New country music artists New music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Re: ARR with IR
Even "Sadma", Balu Mahendra had music by Ilaiyaraaja and Rahman was assisting him then. A recent article by Gulzar (who worked on the lyrics for Sadma) revealed this.Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think one of them was Punnagai Mannan.--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "arr_raghu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all For what all movies did ARR assisted IR? What is the time period and number of movies? Does anybody have this info? Thanks Raghu Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New country music artists Country music artists Christian music artists New music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] asha bhonsle and rd burman
Rangdebasanti3,Comparing Yesteryear greats with today's composers is not just. Yet, one must agree that today's composers are not as great as yesteryear composers. Because they could compose music with so many limitations and their music is still alive.Among the current crop, Rahman is the only composer who is doing good job. And i feel we must not misread Asha Bhonsle's remarks.For someone who has seen the development of music, right from 1940s...definitely today's music would sound non-qualitative. And how can she single-out Rahman that only he is doing good job..if she does that, other composers would protest..or rather she would be inviting their disrespect. So, her statement is a general opinion.Yet, i can cite so many interviews in which she praised Rahman as being a unique composers among the current lot. Secondly, you find Rahman greater than R.D.Burman because you are living in Rahman's era. Music should be judged by quality and the timelessness associated with them. Tomorrow your kids might not enjoy Rahman..as someone else will be ruling in their era. does that degrade rahman's achievements.Same applies to R.D.Burman also.He was a true genius no doubt.and if you think that his worth can be judged only by remembering 100 films of his work, then you are mistaken. you must not forget that R.D.Burman, like Rahman, was a trendsetter in his own times and even now, so many of his songs are still remembered. Lets give him the credit and respect. judging who is greatest is very abstract. you will show me few songs which only rahman can create..and i can show you some songs which only R.D.Burman could create. how can you evaluate then? it is useless to draw such comparisions and lets give every good/great composer a due place in the history of Indian Film Music.Regards Aakarsh.rangdebasanti3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i recently read an asha bhonsale interview. i have noticed that she in her interviews always says that todays music composers are not great and no one has the passion for music like rd burman. if she wants to advertise rd burman then y compare him to todays music composers and if still she compares then she should make it clear that she is not talking about rahman. all these yesteryear greats are jealous of rahmans popularity. i respect asha and rd burman a lot but rahman is the god of music. no one can b compared to rahman. i used to hear only rd burmans songs till i heard rahman. no musician in india has been as popular as rahman. accept that asha. rd burman was great but rahman is greatest. rd burman composed music for 300 films. can u name 100. rahman has composed music for 35 hindi films and v can name them all. thats d magic and thats d consistency.sorry if im being rude. but im sure most of u agree with me. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] Fwd: Semi-ARR: Gulzar's article in today's Hindustan Times
Friends,I am forwarding an article by lyricist Gulzar. He lauds A.R.Rahman in it and also talks about Rang De Basanti.Regards Aakarsh.Note: forwarded message attached. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---BeginMessage--- Gulzar Lauds New age directors: Veteran poet-filmmaker Gulzar has never been in awe of the shenanigans of the rich and mighty. His films, like those of many of his middle-of-the- road fellow travellers of the 1970s, have always been about the family next door. Nobody in Bollywood today is, therefore, happier than him to see a resurgence of the cinema of the middle class. Boys like Rakeysh (Mehra), Vishal (Bhardwaj) and Shaad (Ali) know the nooks and crannies of India, says Gulzar. Their sensibility is rooted in middle class India and that is abundantly reflected in the energy and vitality of their films. He is thoroughly impressed with Rang De Basanti, the film of the year so far. I can see the Mere Apne boys in the characters etched out by Rakeysh Mehra in RDB, Gulzar says. These boys belong to different generation but they have the same aspirations, the same problems, the same frustrations, the same aberrations. As the Mehra and his tribe thrive, Gulzar is also eagerly awaiting the imminent launch of Meghna Gulzars second directorial venture, Honeymoon, to which he has, needless to say, contributed lyrics. Gulzar is also eagerly awaiting the imminent launch of Meghna Gulzars second directorial venture, Honeymoon. Its also about the middle class, he says. Two strangers, both careerists, are thrown together into arranged matrimony. The film revolves around what happens on their honeymoon. Honeymoon, starring Fardeen Khan and Esha Deol and produced by Pritish Nandy Communications, is slated to roll in April. Honeymoon is a light-hearted but realistic film, says Gulzar. It presents an unusual take on marriage. Meghna may have learnt the ropes from her father, but Gulzar believes that she has a stylistic identity of her own. Gulzar also has high expectations from Vishal Bhardwajs Omkara, a reworking of William Shakespeares tragic play, Othello. I have read the script. Its a really unusual film, he says. Omkara, starring Ajay Devgan, Saif Ali Khan and Kareena Kapoor, is set in the underworld and the entire action is set in and around the town of Meerut. Gulzar was in Chennai recently to record the songs of Mani Ratnams next film, Guru, with AR Rahman. He is a wonderfully innovative and amazingly hard-working composer, says the veteran lyricist. Working with him is a great experience. Gulzar has been in the news lately for all the popular awards that have been swept by the uncharacteristic lyrics that he penned for Kajra re, an item number in Shaad Alis smash hit film, Bunty Aur Babli, Kajra re. Serious poetry would have been out of place here, he says. The song is inspired primarily by the lines that one sees written on trucks speeding up and down the highways in north India. The language that he has used in Kajra re is the language of the characters of the film, explains Gulzar. Remember that the female protagonist is from a Punjabi family, he says. She throws around a smattering of English because her ambition is to be a beauty pageant contestant. The boy, too, is a small town guy in a hurry to get ahead in life. Though some Gulzar fans are surprised at his use of English words in the Bunty Aur Babli number, he points out that this isnt the first time that he has done something of this sort. I suppose its because the song is such a huge hit that people are scrutinising it so closely, he says. In any case, this is the language that the new generation speaks a mix of Hindi and English, says Gulzar. One has to move with the times. If you dont, youd be in danger of being left behind. But that is one threat Gulzar the lyricist has never faced. For there is nobody in the business who can mix the language of poetry with the lingo of everyday life with quite the sort of effortless felicity that he always brings to the job of writing songs for Hindi films. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---End Message---
[arr] Coincidence in film-title : Ilaiyaraaja Rahman
Just observed this coincidence. Sometime during early 80s, Ilaiyaraaja composed music for a film titled "Guru", which had Kamal Haasan Sridevi. The film had couple of good songs.Years later, in late 90s, Ilaiyaraja scored music for another film titled "Guru", this time in Malayalam.The film which had Mohan Lal, had exceptionally good music (including terriffic background score by Hungary Orchestra). Superb songs.Now, another film with same title "guru" is being made in hindi, by Maniratnam.A.R.Rahman is scoring music for this Guru.i dont think this happened before that Rahman composed for a film, whose title has already been used in the past. and in this case, both the previous films were by Ilaiyaraaja. Strange Coincidence...i hope this Guru will have great music too.Regards Aakarsh. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] A R Rahman R D Burman? (Do u think comparison exists?)
U have infact raised the controversy my friend. See, the comparision doesnt exist..but its not because Rahman gave better music(which is a myth)..but because R.D.Burman's debut happened in 1961...which means 30 yrs before rahman...or say..much before rahman was even born.can u compare like that? How can you compare artists from two different Times...And if you believe that R.D didnt give as much better music as rahman did...then, certainly u didnt listen to much of RDB.see, every composer, from yesteryear...gave their best..inspite of the so many ODDs they had..No TV, No hype publicity..their only way of reaching pple was Radio..while today..for that matter..from 90s..we have cable TV..the exposure..the Hype..the way information reached pple is amazing...Also, RD could compose some fantastic timeless gems like Aandhi, Amar Prem or even Ijaazat..the songs or the genre itself cannot be replicated... My point is...Every Good Composer is great in his own way..Can u compare RD with Naushad,who gave totally pure Hindustani music in film songs...u cant!! because the Times are different..and several factors are included.for that matter, people dont dare to compare RD with his father, S.D.Burman, one of the phenomenal composers of india. ..then, how can we compare RD with Rahman?when u compare two composers...look for the pair..who are contemporaries..because both will be facing same resources..and same limitations..and finally..any good output arises out of a perfect balance between these 2 things..namely -- Resources Limitations.Today, we cannot compare Ilaiyaraaja with Rahman because they belong to two different times(though IR is still giving music..but majority was from diff time span)., then how can we compare a much senior RDB with rahman. and do you think Awards really speak about genuine adulation?if thats so, rahman wud have got National Award every year.Did he?Plz dont rake up controversies...lets discuss rahman's music..and technicalities rather than comparing composers with him...and if u still wish to compare, compare with rahman's contemporaries rather than legends from bygone era, who didnt have so many oppurtunities..technically or whatever..and still created some timeless pieces..which we all listen, even now..and even in years to come.and i hope my opinion is taken in right spirit.RegardsAakarsh. Pravinder Sheoran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guysi just do not want to creat any controversies herebut i get hurt when i listen about comparing rahman with r d burmanwhat i think is that rahman is far far better, authentic and versatile music director than r d burmanthough r d burman gave some hit nombers but they were all western style numbers (and some of them were copied as well)most of his numbers were sung by same singers, and in his life time he could not take any national awards.on the other side rahman has given a hell lot of varity and standard to his musicand of cource we all are well familiar with the qualities of rahman's musicDO YOU STILL THINK THE COMPARISON EXISTS?very hard to believepravinder sheoran Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [arr] to Dasun Abeysekara (regarding Salil Chaudhary)
to moderator and other members-- excuse me for digressing...and discussing other composer...i am doing so..because it will give a little understanding to others also..abt yesteryear composers who have, in some way or the other, influenced Rahman..Hi! Dasun,I am glad that you appreciate the music given by the legends of yester-years...looks like you are complete novice when it comes to Salil Chaudhary's music...i hope the link i gave came to some use atleast. Anand is not just abt Maine Tere liye...try listening to "kahi door jab din"...what a fantastic melody it is..the mukhuda itself is enough to captivate the listener... or try "na jiya lage na " from same film..which is tuned in raag Bhageeswari. there are plenty of films of Salilda, in which he has displayed his mastery..like the prelude music for the song "aaha rim jhim ke yeh" from film "usne kaha tha"..it is not a normal brain which can conceive such wonderful stuff..and regarding your query:The song from movie Rhythm is a complex composition...it also has many uthar-chadaos...i mean...u cannot sing that song casually..no straight lines..lot of ups and downs..and influence of western classical is evident..thats why i feel its like tribute to salilda...see the aalaaps in that song...its unusual... by uthar-chadaos..i mean ups-downs of notes..which strains singer/instrumentalist a lot..for eg: take the film choti si baatu have a song by mukesh "yeh din kya aaye"...listen carefully.."yeh din" is on higher notes while "kya aaye" is on lower notes...even when he finishes antharas..the ending is low-scale..and immediately connecting it to lines of mukhuda as "yeh din"..strains composers a lot.. example 2: film "parakh"..song"oh sajna"...follow the sitar notes...they are very tricky..with high scale immediately followed by low scale notes...if a instrumentalist himself finds it so complex..imagine the brain which composed such pieces..thats what Salilda was famous for.Aakarsh.my blog : www.musicmavericks.blogspot.com Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Aakarsh!Thanks a lot man, that blog spot is awesome! At a personal level, Naushad probably had the biggest influence on ARR as both are deeply spiritual men, thus their emphasis on strong melodies. Yesterday, I was listening to 'Hai Na' and felt certain similarities with the lovely 'Teri Husn ki' from Leader although I can't still pinpoint them at a detailed level. The more obvious ones are the introductions on the santoor (correct me if I'm wrong on the instrument).Coming to Chowdhury's music, I did see Anand once and liked 'Meine Tere Liye,' but did not know it was by him! Although Anand may not be in the same league as Madhumati, after buying the album just now (it's amazing what you can find on the iTunes Music Store!) and listening to the four songs, I can see they are definitely above par in melodic content. I will definitely check out the other movies you had noted as well.Couple of questions for you.1. What made you attribute 'Anbe' from Rythm to Salilda's style?2. Can you briefly describe the meaning of 'Uthar-Chadaos?Gopal,I tried to make this as 'ARRelevant' as possible since I think these discussions are very educational for us all, but feel free to give the 'take it outside!' command as necessary. :)Regards,DasunFrom: Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [arr] to Dasun Abeysekara (regarding Salil Chaudhary)Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:49:36 -0800 (PST)Hi! read your mail...the biggest surprise came to me when i read that Madhumati is the only album of Salil Chaudhary which you've heard. He was a super-genius who was ranked along the likes of S.D.Burman, Naushad , Madan Mohan and all.. His area of expertise was Western Classical plus Folk.Infact, Ilaiyaraaja worked with Salilda as a guitarist,which is why he too emulated similar ingredients. Salilda was the first composer,in india, who looked at Symphonies of the west..and understood the nuances which he adapted very well..by fusing indian folk into it.We can say that his music was also a kind of Fusion. he was a genius...his compositions were kinda complex..with lot of Uthar-Chadaos..infact...the number of simple compositions is very less...because most of his compositions used to baffle the instrumentalists...people in those times used to feel that he is a cut different from the rest because of his unique formula of symphony+folk+classical. Some fantastic albums of Salilda are here : http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/17/m/music_director.494/ try them...my picks would be Anand, Maya, Parakh, Rajnigandha, Choti Si baat, Chaya, etc.,. i know Rahman admires Salilda a lot...however, having heard many Salil-da songs, i can say that Rahman doesnt imbibe much of Salilda's style...he does..but not much..According to
RE: [arr] to Dasun Abeysekara (regarding Salil Chaudhary)
Hi!read your mail...the biggest surprise came to me when i read that Madhumati is the only album of Salil Chaudhary which you've heard. He was a super-genius who was ranked along the likes of S.D.Burman, Naushad , Madan Mohan and all..His area of expertise was Western Classical plus Folk.Infact, Ilaiyaraaja worked with Salilda as a guitarist,which is why he too emulated similar ingredients. Salilda was the first composer,in india,who looked at Symphonies of the west..and understood the nuances which he adapted very well..by fusing indian folk into it.We can say that his music was also a kind of Fusion. he was a genius...his compositions were kinda complex..with lot of Uthar-Chadaos..infact...the number of simple compositions is very less...because most of his compositions used to baffle the instrumentalists...people in those times used to feel that he is a cut different from the rest because of his unique formula of symphony+folk+classical.Some fantastic albums of Salilda are here : http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/17/m/music_director.494/try them...my picks would be Anand, Maya, Parakh, Rajnigandha, Choti Si baat, Chaya, etc.,.i know Rahman admires Salilda a lot...however, having heard many Salil-da songs, i can say that Rahman doesnt imbibe much of Salilda's style...he does..but not much..According to me Rahman is (more) heavily inspired by Naushad...and sometimes, both the Burmans..andat times even Ilaiyaraaja...he himself admits it..The Salil-da ingredient is very less..but yet, if you take a song like "Sky"song from "Rhythm"..it is his tribute to Salil-da. Regards Aakarsh. (www.musicmavericks.blogspot.com ) Dasun Abeysekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you so much for this link! I have always been blown over by the Music of Madhumati, eversince I saw the movie (one of my first in Hindi along with Abhimaan) as a 9 or 10 year old. I still remember falling in love with the beauty of Vaijyanthimala, so this movie has a special meaning for me too! Coming back to the music of Salil Chouwdhury, it is a class apart in this movie, his versatality shows through the incredible variety of styles he composes in this album. From the lyrical ballad Dil Tadap, to the lovely Zulmi Sanga Aankh Ladi, to the heartwrenching Toote Hue Khwabon, to the comical Jungle Mein, and the opening Aja Re Paradesi, which always gave me the impression that both Mani Ratnam and ARR had this song in mind for Roja's opening chinna chinna Asai, just a hunch. Anyway, truly a masterpiece by all means. Unfortunately, that is the only Salil Chouwdhury album I currently have or heard, well I have the old Devdas DVD, but that does not have many songs.Looks like he was Bimal Roy's favorite, that should speak enough of his genius! I like these topics...we should branch out once in a while and discuss the old greats of Indian music, who undoubtedly have influenced ARR in many ways.From: "Manoj Mohan C" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comTo: "ARR Fans" arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comSubject: [arr] [semi-ARR] ARR mentioned in tribute to Salil DaDate: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:37:27 +0530...Music directors from Shankar-Jaikishen to A.R. Rahman have been struck by Salil da's felicity in matching orchestration with emotions..The skilful use of obligato, the counter melody flowing around the main melody, is an unfailing attraction of his music.Both Ilayaraja and A.R. Rahman followed the path charted by him. Ilayaraja was introduced to the film industry as guitarist and combo organ player in Salil da's recordings and his influence on Ilayaraja is evident. R.K. Sekhar, Rahman's father, worked with Salil da as an assistant. Rahman himself testifies that attending Salil da's recording sessions at a young age left an indelible impression on him.http://www.hindu.com/mag/2005/11/20/stories/2005112000340500.htmManoj YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS New country music artists Country music artists Music artists New music artists Christian music artists Unsigned music artist
Re: [arr] what is oonjal
hey i am ignorant..what is this oonjal? aakarshMathan Rajah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have uploaded Oonjal mp3s for who need those, atmegaupload.Link for Oonjal:http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7QCZ8IOQ Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Christian music artists Country music artists Music artists New country music artists New music artists YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] Single RAM File for Water Songs
thanks a million dude! must say, our fan-club is the only one,..where we manage to get hold of some unbelievable stuff..like now, Water, even before the release.. hats off.. aakarshVinayakam Murugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on Sasi's mail, I tried putting all the links into a single ram to avoid cut paste of one track at one time. It works. I have attached the file here.-- Warm Regards~~~Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. A.R.Rahman Live in Bangalore - October 8th, 2005 The Countdown Begins - 2 days to go Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] How can it be ilayaraja for sivaji??????????????????
dude! though i understand your passion for rahman's music, i would like to tell u one thing..dont under-estimate ilaiyaraaja just because of age..because age is never an impediment for a true musiciantake ilaiyaraaja's recent albums and see urself, which show that he is an age-less wonder..i am not trying to advocate ilaiyaraaja here in this club..but only giving u a piece of truth.. also, consider these statistics.. rahman did 3 films with rajnikanth..all of them have mass appeal(1-2 class songs r there no doubt..)..which some fans may like and some may dislike... ilaiyaraaja did many films with rajnikanth (right from late 70s) and no one understands the pulse better than him...also, the music he composed for rajni bridges the mass-class divide.. lets accept it..when it comes to rajnikanth film, ilaiyaraaja is more experienced than rahman..though it would be nice if rahman does his film..becoz director is shankar. so, in this case, it is ok if either rahman(pro-shankar) does it...or even ilaiyaraaja(pro-rajnikanth) does it.. but lets not judge someone just by the age.. aakarsh.gan km [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: guyzzz,,,this is too much...its our boss..who is the best for a high hope movie SHIVAJI..ut now people are expecting for ilraja music here in shivaji??? how can it match...hezzz old and he cant do anymore rather its our star who can only do this...do move against this...we will make sure its we who supports our rahamna...! jai rahman ki!! dudezzz who ever supportzzz me reply ... a.r.r.karthik!!! http://tamil.galatta.com/entertainment/livewire/livewire.asp?n=50news=newnews Yahoo! for GoodClick here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPONSORED LINKS Christian music artists Country music artists Music artists New music artists New country music artists Unsigned music artist YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] A R R present in IR's Thiruvasagam Oratorio(retelecast??)
can anyone plzz tell when this proramme would be retelecast again? aakarsh.Sriram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday at 9.30 PM, IR's Thiruvasagam Oratorio function was shown(in SS Music) where a r r and other music directors were present..a r r told that he is little disappinted with State Central govt.for not supporting and sponsoring these type of projects..He also appreciated IR's effort and praised him..Except Deva and Harris Jayaraj, all other MD's were present..Note: V Channel is repeating the Super Singer show between 7 to 8 PM til29th June..Those who have missed watching the show earlier, can catcha r r out there !!Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "arrahmanfans" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] AR RAHMAN KUMAR SANU....,
rahman did work with kumar sanu twice.. he sang 1 or 2 dubbed songs of "duet"..in hindi.. and he sang "milgayee milgayee" from kabhi na kabhi..a duet with alka yagnik..thats same tune as "anjali anjali" from duet.. and it is wrong to say that there is no rift between kumar sanu and rahman..i remember reading kumar sanu's interview (filmfare..during 1997-98-99 times i think) in which he degraded rahman's capability...i mean..he said something like "i dont think rahman is any great composer" kind..casual remarks..and inturn praised few bombay composers..just like the way abhijeet recently did.. also, in the same interview kumar sanu lashed out again sonu nigam.. thats all..after that...rahman never took kumar sanu.. and i am glad that he didnt..coz i personally feel that kumar sanu doesnt qualify as a singer at all..his only3 good songs are "do dil mil rahe hai" and "jab koi baat"..and "kuch na kaho"..i dont know why he shakes his voice so much...and he sings with his nose.. god knows how people tolerated him for so long.. aakarsh.Arijit Debnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think night shift is not the matter, the matter is Sanu's nosehe use his nose during singingwhich is not acceptable not only by ARR, but alsoby any good listener also. Arijitsriharsha24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there is any rift b/w arr and sanu, but there isdefinitely a rift b/w sanu and udit narayan.That was long time back. ARR likes udit's voice more than sanu's. Thething is that the singer shud be content and be comfortable with theMD he's working for. Udit, SPB, Shankar, hariharan etc. don't mindsinging in the night shifts and having patience and complementing eachother. Maybe thats the problem with sanu or sunidhi chauhan for thatmatter. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "innocentankit"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, being an ardent fan of the BOSS, i am really surprised sometimes that why does the boss does not work with the other masterman in his own way KUMAR SANUi think so that today in bollywood he is the best singer and has the best depth in his voice i think he is one of the best on an all time basis...hi songs like DO DIL MIL RAHE HAI-PARDES, JAB KOI BAAT BIGAD JAYE, PROVES IT but then too he has not worked With the BOSS even once.atleast i have not heard their combo even once.. maybe bcos of some internal rift or some other reasonbut ultimately i think their combination can give many historical and unbelievable songs.WAITING FOR THEIR MAGIC TO BEGIN I THINK this is an interesting point and one should try to convey it to the BOSSankit.Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site! Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] ARR and Kamal
hi! all, it might be any personal ego clash...but guys..we must not over-ride kamal haasan's opinion.. afterall its a matter of personal equation (and professional too).. Ilaiyaraaja scored for many films of kamal and they both tune well..no denying that..and he is entitled to his opinion no doubt..like for raj kapoor, shankar jaikishan were the greatest...ofcourse..there were other composers too..but for him, they were the best...even this works the same way. and yes, we cannot even argue about kamal-ARR combo..if we consider kamal-raaja combo.. lets not discuss controversial issues guys!! aakarsh.mohamed ameer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ramya, You are exactly correct, even i have watched him in his many interviews when he is doing his home productionshe praised Ilayaraja isthe only good music director he ever met and nobody can equal to him. And also rahman refused kamal to sing a song in Indian as rahman said that he wants to play only with professional singers. After the audio release of Indian kamal told personally that music had not come well butthe cassette sales of Indiansets a huge record in indian film industry and breaks all of the previous records.These kind of records will be happend only when AR Rahman composing music for a film. Kamal told so becoz Rahman had refused him tosingin Indian,who told thatkamal isa good singer? Long Live Rahman his Music with Love Ameerramya babu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys Have u guys ever heard Kamal saying that illayaraja is the BEST in Background Music? and he at times degardes ARR indirectly in his interviews..Is it because ARR dont consider his musical suggestion to that extent or any personal clashes between them. I feel as ARR picks the right person to sing keeping kamal aside which makes him feel bad as he is a good singer. u can c that in the movie INDIAN as ARR dint give kamal a chance to sing , some how with great difficulty KS ravikumar did it in tenali as the songs needed Kamals voice badly... Wat did rehmando with all those Stuff he made for the film HEY RAM? thanks Ramya __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!?Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site! Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[arr] rahman bharat ratna!!! think realistically.
hi all there is a new discussion about a.r.rahman and bharat ratna. before building hopes, i think we should understand the importance of the award...the significance and the recipients so far. about the significance, i neednt say anything new..it is the highest civilian honour. now, the point is "is rahman eligible for it?"..the answer is simply NO. he is really too young to be considered for that award. friends, lets not get carried away by fantasies..rahman is a good composer no doubt..he is the best among current lot..but it is not enough to qualify him for that award. because every generation had some best composer or the other.. take for instance all the yester-year composers..Naushad(rahman's favourite infact) is a legendary composer..perhaps the only composer who has used indian classical music extensively in all his songs..he initiated it infact.and he created only GEMS...like-wise S.D.Burman, salil chaudhary, Madan Mohan,.all these composers were top notch, knowledgable and even the best...during 50s, 60s..during 70s, r.d.burman rocked the music scenario..just the way rahman is doing now. if you take eighties, no one could really conquer all kinds of audience the way ilaiyaraaja did. it is a fact we all must admit..because rahman himself admitted it tooo. none of these composers were given that award. take teh recipients... i think , from the film field or say music field,very few got bharat ratna. Lata Mangeshkar, pt.Ravi shankar, ustad bismillah khan..m.s.subbalakshmi.. friends..just think..is it wise/proper to join rahman in this list..did rahman achieve so much as they did? they are legends..and time will decide if rahman will become a legend or not..for now..he is the best ofcourse..but i think bharat ratna is too high an award for him..if he is given that, then all these composers too deserve it..think of it... if you talk abt contribution to film field, there is another award called "dada saheb phalke award". if you ask me..even this award is too high an award for rahman, at this juncture..probably sometime in future..after another 20 yrs..he might be considered.. but thats a distant thought..this award too is conferred only to legends..like dilip kumar or lata mangeshkar..asha bhonsle.. before thinking about any such high-profile awards for rahman..plz think about all those great composers also..who were definitely more talented than rahman..just think realistically. just recently, he was given the lata mangeshkar award..that itself is a high honour for him..which came early..and yes..he deserved that one..i agree..but bharat ratna and dada saheb phalke!! c'mon guys...rahman should create a string of gems in the coming years so that he can achieve that honour..i mean, u cant bestow that award unless he rises to the level of legends like those mentioned above..and for that..he has a long long way to go..only time will tell. aakarsh.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [arr] MASOOM Details
hi! Masoom is a song written by Gulzar.yes, it was one of the unreleased tracks, which was released later. i think it was the 1st collaboration of Rahman-Gulzar. Musafir was a track recorded for vandemataram itself..but as the tune was same as Gentleman song, rahman discarded. Initially he wanted to include it as he felt the hindi audience didnt know gentleman tune and it wud be new for them..but alas! anu malik already copied the tune into hindi version of gentleman..and releasing same tune in vandemataram might throw an impression that rahman copied from anu malik( ha ha...)..which is why he discarded it. aakarsh. siddhu vipin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey guys. even i came accross the masoom album.the cd though!!!it was amazing!! it had arr's 3 songs frm vande mataram(ma tuje salam,gurus of peace and only u) and other songs said by smart guy! wat i loved was tht the 'only u' song is different frm the original version!!! its a bit longer.and real sexy!!!the only place i was dissapointed was in the middle of the songafter a particular interlude...thses 3 bass guitar notes r played in the original songtht's missin in this version! else the mix and everythin else is awesome!!! this guy rocks big time and is gonna rule 4 bout 10 more yrs so loads xpected frm himwish him luck 4 the future.. sidz From: Smart Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] MASOOM Details Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:38:34 +0100 (BST) Hi, Masoom was released in Indiain a double cassette pack of Vande Mataram (Maa Tujhe Salaam). In the second cassette only Masoom was there of ARR's. Other songs were 'Ae mere watan ke logon' by Lata Mangeshkar (Recorded Live Performance), 'Alla Hoo' by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan and a non-stop of medley of many songs by Lata Mangeshkar. The first three songs on Side A of cassette and medley on Side B. First Cassette is ARR's Vande Mataram itself. Don't know whether a corresponding cd was released. This double cassette pack was released much after original vande mataram was released. And i remember somebody had posted this details earlier in this group. One personal thought In Side A of vande mataram audio cassette there are only 3 songs and after the 3rd song there is more than enough blank space to include the Masoom song. Wish they had included.Had to buy the double cassette pack just for the masoom song. But still we are missing Musafir Smart Guy. --- Vikram Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any ideas what the reason could be for not releasing a great masterpiece like "Masoom" in India too ? On 5/4/05, vempaty Jagannath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey senthil.masoom is an unreleased song from vande mataram. it was released only in usa wid another track musafir. kumarr *NSENTHIL kUMAR [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Hi friends, i just listened a track from Masoom , can anybody please tell me in which film this track is from and any other details about this track. Masoom SUPERB N.Senthil http://clients.rediff.com/signature/track_sig.asp Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *Yahoo! Groups Links* - To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/ - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Regards, Vikram Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Bought a New Cellphone? Sell your old one for a Great Price in eBay! Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic.Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community.Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.comTo Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
