[asterisk-users] Channel Bank ? Simple Switch Hangup?

2010-10-26 Thread William Stillwell (Lists)
 

I am trying to configure a channel bank with 24 ports of FXS., but appear to
be hitting a roadblock? This worked on v1.4.xx but now just get
SimpleSwitch and immediate=no/yes don't seem to make a difference?, no
matter if under top section, under channel, etc.

 

Chan_dahdi.conf:

 

[channels]

context=default

usecallerid=yes

hidecallerid=no

callwaiting=yes

usecallingpres=yes

callwaitingcallerid=yes

threewaycalling=yes

transfer=yes

canpark=yes

cancallforward=yes

callreturn=yes

echocancel=yes

echocancelwhenbridged=yes

relaxdtmf=yes

rxgain=0.0

txgain=0.0

group=1

callgroup=1

pickupgroup=1

immediate=no

 

;Sangoma A104 port 3 [slot:1 bus:1 span:3] wanpipe3

context=from-cb

group=3

echocancel=yes

signalling=fxo_ls

channel = 49-72

immediate=yes

 

 

 

Extensions.conf:

 

[from-cb]

 

exten = s,1,DISA,no-password|internal   

 

[internal]

 

include = sip-stations

include = iax-trunks

include = outbound

 

[outbound]

 

exten = _1XX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})

exten = _XX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})

exten = _XXX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})  

 

 

When I pickup a line, and hit any key I get:

 

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/72-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/72-1'

 

Asterisk Version 1.6.2.13

Lastest DAHDI/LibPRI/SpanDSP

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank ? Simple Switch Hangup?

2010-10-26 Thread William Stillwell (Lists)
Nevermind, figured it out.

 

Immediate=yes on top part of chan_dahdi.conf

 

And in extensions.conf

 

Exten =s,1,disa(no-password,internal)

 

 

 

William Stillwell

Systems Architect

MDT Personnel, LLC.

Ph. Coming soon.

Fx. Coming soon.

Cl. 727-638-6208

 

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Subject: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank ? Simple Switch Hangup?

 

 

I am trying to configure a channel bank with 24 ports of FXS., but appear to
be hitting a roadblock? This worked on v1.4.xx but now just get
SimpleSwitch and immediate=no/yes don't seem to make a difference?, no
matter if under top section, under channel, etc.

 

Chan_dahdi.conf:

 

[channels]

context=default

usecallerid=yes

hidecallerid=no

callwaiting=yes

usecallingpres=yes

callwaitingcallerid=yes

threewaycalling=yes

transfer=yes

canpark=yes

cancallforward=yes

callreturn=yes

echocancel=yes

echocancelwhenbridged=yes

relaxdtmf=yes

rxgain=0.0

txgain=0.0

group=1

callgroup=1

pickupgroup=1

immediate=no

 

;Sangoma A104 port 3 [slot:1 bus:1 span:3] wanpipe3

context=from-cb

group=3

echocancel=yes

signalling=fxo_ls

channel = 49-72

immediate=yes

 

 

 

Extensions.conf:

 

[from-cb]

 

exten = s,1,DISA,no-password|internal   

 

[internal]

 

include = sip-stations

include = iax-trunks

include = outbound

 

[outbound]

 

exten = _1XX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})

exten = _XX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})

exten = _XXX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})  

 

 

When I pickup a line, and hit any key I get:

 

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/72-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/72-1'

 

Asterisk Version 1.6.2.13

Lastest DAHDI/LibPRI/SpanDSP

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank ? Simple Switch Hangup?

2010-10-26 Thread John Novack

Have you contacted Sangoma regarding their card configuration?
I have found them always very knowledgeable and helpful

I would certainly go there first.

John Novack

William Stillwell (Lists) wrote:


I am trying to configure a channel bank with 24 ports of FXS., but 
appear to be hitting a roadblock? This worked on v1.4.xx but now just 
get SimpleSwitch and immediate=no/yes don't seem to make a 
difference?, no matter if under top section, under channel, etc.


Chan_dahdi.conf:

[channels]

context=default

usecallerid=yes

hidecallerid=no

callwaiting=yes

usecallingpres=yes

callwaitingcallerid=yes

threewaycalling=yes

transfer=yes

canpark=yes

cancallforward=yes

callreturn=yes

echocancel=yes

echocancelwhenbridged=yes

relaxdtmf=yes

rxgain=0.0

txgain=0.0

group=1

callgroup=1

pickupgroup=1

immediate=no

;Sangoma A104 port 3 [slot:1 bus:1 span:3] wanpipe3

context=from-cb

group=3

echocancel=yes

signalling=fxo_ls

channel = 49-72

immediate=yes

Extensions.conf:

[from-cb]

exten = s,1,DISA,no-password|internal

[internal]

include = sip-stations

include = iax-trunks

include = outbound

[outbound]

exten = _1XX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})

exten = _XX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})

exten = _XXX,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN})

When I pickup a line, and hit any key I get:

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/49-1'

-- Starting simple switch on 'DAHDI/72-1'

-- Hungup 'DAHDI/72-1'

Asterisk Version 1.6.2.13

Lastest DAHDI/LibPRI/SpanDSP



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[asterisk-users] Channel Bank Recommendations

2007-08-29 Thread Mark Bell
Need to add some fxs and fxo ports behind a fonebridge2 box any
recommendations a channel bank

 

Thanks 

Mark

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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank Recommendations

2007-08-29 Thread Jared Smith
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 09:38 -0400, Mark Bell wrote:
 Need to add some fxs and fxo ports behind a fonebridge2 box any
 recommendations a channel bank

Personally, I've had great success with Carrier Access (ADIT 600) and
Adtran (TA-750/TA-850) channel banks (even the ones I've bought at
bargain prices on eBay).  Just avoid the Carrier Access AccessBank 1
models with FXO ports... the FXO ports have no disconnect supervision.
(They're the ones that are shaped like a pizza box.)

-Jared



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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank Recommendations

2007-08-29 Thread Brian Roy
On 8/29/07, Mark Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Need to add some fxs and fxo ports behind a fonebridge2 box any
 recommendations a channel bank



We're using a Rhino here and haven't had one problem with it. It's connected
to an analog fax server and lights up for hours at a time. Probably been up
300+ days since we bought it.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank Recommendations

2007-08-29 Thread Russ Price
Mark Bell wrote:
 Need to add some fxs and fxo ports behind a fonebridge2 box any 
 recommendations a channel bank


I have an Adtran Total Access 750 on my system, and it has worked very 
well.  However, if you live near a radio transmitter, you will need RF 
filters for your FXO ports.  I live about three miles from a 50,000-watt 
AM transmitter, and without filters, my FXOs pick up the radio station 
nicely. :)

Commonly-available DSL filters will work.

Russ

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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank Recommendations

2007-08-29 Thread Mark Bell
Good to know thanks!

 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Price
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:11 PM
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 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank Recommendations
 
 Mark Bell wrote:
  Need to add some fxs and fxo ports behind a fonebridge2 box any
  recommendations a channel bank
 
 
 I have an Adtran Total Access 750 on my system, and it has worked very
 well.  However, if you live near a radio transmitter, you will need RF
 filters for your FXO ports.  I live about three miles from a
50,000-watt
 AM transmitter, and without filters, my FXOs pick up the radio station
 nicely. :)
 
 Commonly-available DSL filters will work.
 
   Russ
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank

2007-05-07 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 06 May 2007 6:42 pm, Forum wrote:
 Can someone recommend a good quality 24 or greater port channel bank?

For FXS: I have personally used Adit600, Access Bank I and IIs.  They all work 
great, and the AB1 and AB2 products are *cheap*.

For FXO: Adit600.  The AB1/2 work, but have no CPD capability, so you can 
never tell when the other side hangs up on you.

Rhino makes 'em too, as does Adtran, but I have no experience with these.

-A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank

2007-05-07 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling
I'm a fan of Adtran Total Access (TA) 750s.  They are so cheap on eBay 
that you can get two of them used for less than the cost of a new one. 
Follow the standard things for not getting ripped off on eBay, of course.


Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:

On Sunday 06 May 2007 6:42 pm, Forum wrote:

Can someone recommend a good quality 24 or greater port channel bank?


For FXS: I have personally used Adit600, Access Bank I and IIs.  They all work 
great, and the AB1 and AB2 products are *cheap*.


For FXO: Adit600.  The AB1/2 work, but have no CPD capability, so you can 
never tell when the other side hangs up on you.


Rhino makes 'em too, as does Adtran, but I have no experience with these.

-A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank

2007-05-07 Thread Russ Price

Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
I'm a fan of Adtran Total Access (TA) 750s.  They are so cheap on eBay 
that you can get two of them used for less than the cost of a new one. 
Follow the standard things for not getting ripped off on eBay, of course.




The TA750s are nice indeed - they're built like tanks, and they can be 
configured with all sorts of different interfaces.  However, be aware 
that the FXO cards are sensitive to RF interference.  Standard DSL line 
filters will eliminate the interference, though.  I live about three 
miles from a 50 kW AM transmitter, and the filters are vital.


Aside from eBay, there are used-equipment vendors that provide 
refurbished cards and such at reasonable prices.  I got my FXO card that 
way when I couldn't find any on eBay.  FXOs are a bit expensive, though, 
and that goes for eBay or vendors.


On FXS ports, avoid using the automatic line impedance setting.  In my 
experience, it would eventually guess wrong; the phones would work fine 
for a while, then randomly become incredibly loud.  On checking, I 
discovered that the TA750 was picking 900 ohm+2.16uF complex impedance 
instead of plain 900 ohm.  Once the FXS ports were forced to 900 ohm, 
there were no further problems.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank

2007-05-07 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Russ Price wrote:

Eric ManxPower Wieling wrote:
I'm a fan of Adtran Total Access (TA) 750s.  They are so cheap on eBay 
that you can get two of them used for less than the cost of a new one. 
Follow the standard things for not getting ripped off on eBay, of course.




The TA750s are nice indeed - they're built like tanks, and they can be 
configured with all sorts of different interfaces.  However, be aware 
that the FXO cards are sensitive to RF interference.  Standard DSL line 
filters will eliminate the interference, though.  I live about three 
miles from a 50 kW AM transmitter, and the filters are vital.


I'll have to try that.  I have hum on one of my TA750s and suspected a 
hardware problem, but I've got DSL filters laying around to try.


On the other hand I live 11 miles from the CO on a SLIC96 about 3 miles 
away.

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[asterisk-users] Channel Bank

2007-05-06 Thread Forum
Can someone recommend a good quality 24 or greater port channel bank?

 

Steve

 

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank

2007-05-06 Thread Doug Lytle

Forum wrote:


Can someone recommend a good quality 24 or greater port channel bank?

 


The Adit 600 is a favorite of mine.

Doug



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Re: [asterisk-users] Channel Bank

2007-05-06 Thread Brian Roy

On 5/6/07, Doug Lytle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



The Adit 600 is a favorite of mine.

Doug



Would second the Adit too. We are running a Rhino now and have had no
problems with it.

-Brian
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[asterisk-users] channel bank log

2006-07-10 Thread Viktor Tatianin








Hello



Can any one may send me log when channel bank is work



Best regards



Viktor Tatianin






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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-07 Thread Viktor Tatianin
Hello Bill

Zapata.conf

switchtype=national
secallerid=yes
echocancel = yes
echocancelwhenbridged = yes
rxgain = 0.0
txgain = 0.0
signalling=fxo_ks
immediate=no
#include zapata_additional.conf
context=from-internal
group=1
channel=110


*CLI
-- Starting simple switch on 'Zap/110-1'
-- Hungup 'Zap/110-1'

*CLI


But at handset is silence :-(

May any one send config for channel bank 
Please
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Schaffer
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 5:32 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

In your /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf file, what do you have the immediate
keyword set to?  I think it needs to be set to no if you want dialtone
and digit collection.  Also, changes in this file require a full stop
and restart of asterisk.

-Bill



On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 08:05:58PM +0300, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 After ring I hangup phone but don't speak at the phone silence :- 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Jones
 Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 6:21 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work
 
 OK so * is seeing the phone go offhook That is good
 
 How about if you call the handset, can you actually talk across the  
 connection? You said it rang, but now we need to establish you  
 actually have an audio connection.
 
 
 On Jul 3, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 
  If  lift up handset
3 17:48:57 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Starting simple switch on
  'Zap/94-1'
  Jul  3 17:49:14 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: not enough digits (and no  
  ambiguous
  match)...
  Jul  3 17:49:20 DEBUG[14192] chan_sip.c: Auto destroying call
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Hangup: channel: 94 index  
  = 0,
  normal = 42, callwait = -1, thirdcall = -1
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: disabled echo cancellation on
  channel 94
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Set option TDD MODE,  
  value: OFF(0)
  on Zap/94-1
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Updated conferencing on  
  94, with 0
  conference users
  Jul  3 17:49:21 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Hungup 'Zap/94-1'
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry  
  Jones
  Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:15 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work
 
  Are you seeing any messages on the console? You should be seeing
  something like Starting simple switch
 
  We would need more info to help more.
 
 
  On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 
 
  Hello All
 
  Please help me, I have next problem
  When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't
  hear
  dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
  When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work
 
 
  Thanks
  Viktor Tatianin
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-07 Thread Viktor Tatianin
Hello

When I lift handset at phone hear silence

This is my config
*CLI zap show channel 110
Channel: 110
File Descriptor: 42
Span: 4
Extension:
Dialing: no
Context: from-internal
Caller ID: 2812
Calling TON: 0
Caller ID name: 2812
Destroy: 0
InAlarm: 0
Signalling Type: FXO Kewlstart
Radio: 0
Owner: None
Real: None
Callwait: None
Threeway: None
Confno: -1
Propagated Conference: -1
Real in conference: 0
DSP: no
Relax DTMF: no
Dialing/CallwaitCAS: 0/0
Default law: alaw
Fax Handled: no
Pulse phone: no
Echo Cancellation: 128 taps unless TDM bridged, currently OFF
Actual Confinfo: Num/0, Mode/0x
Actual Confmute: No
Hookstate (FXS only): Onhook
*CLI

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Jones
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To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

OK so * is seeing the phone go offhook That is good

How about if you call the handset, can you actually talk across the  
connection? You said it rang, but now we need to establish you  
actually have an audio connection.


On Jul 3, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:

 If  lift up handset
   3 17:48:57 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Starting simple switch on
 'Zap/94-1'
 Jul  3 17:49:14 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: not enough digits (and no  
 ambiguous
 match)...
 Jul  3 17:49:20 DEBUG[14192] chan_sip.c: Auto destroying call
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Hangup: channel: 94 index  
 = 0,
 normal = 42, callwait = -1, thirdcall = -1
 Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: disabled echo cancellation on
 channel 94
 Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Set option TDD MODE,  
 value: OFF(0)
 on Zap/94-1
 Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Updated conferencing on  
 94, with 0
 conference users
 Jul  3 17:49:21 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Hungup 'Zap/94-1'



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry  
 Jones
 Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:15 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

 Are you seeing any messages on the console? You should be seeing
 something like Starting simple switch

 We would need more info to help more.


 On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:


 Hello All

 Please help me, I have next problem
 When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't
 hear
 dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
 When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work


 Thanks
 Viktor Tatianin

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 06:48:07PM +0300, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 Hello Bill
 
 Zapata.conf
 
 switchtype=national
 secallerid=yes
 echocancel = yes
 echocancelwhenbridged = yes
 rxgain = 0.0
 txgain = 0.0
 signalling=fxo_ks
 immediate=no
 #include zapata_additional.conf

What do you have in zapata_additional.conf ?

Those three are irrelevant:

 context=from-internal
 group=1
 channel=110

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-07 Thread Bill Schaffer
All I can offer you is blank looks.  The only practical difference I see
between your setup excerpts and mine is that I am using loopstart and you
are using kewlstart.  Kewlstart allows for signalling that the far end
has disconnected the call.  I think this should show up on your console
trace, though.  I don't recall seeing it.

Maybe you are looking at the wrong end of the problem?  Are you sure the
channel bank is working as expected?

-Bill


On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 06:53:54PM +0300, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 Hello
 
 When I lift handset at phone hear silence
 
 This is my config
 *CLI zap show channel 110
 Channel: 110
 File Descriptor: 42
 Span: 4
 Extension:
 Dialing: no
 Context: from-internal
 Caller ID: 2812
 Calling TON: 0
 Caller ID name: 2812
 Destroy: 0
 InAlarm: 0
 Signalling Type: FXO Kewlstart
 Radio: 0
 Owner: None
 Real: None
 Callwait: None
 Threeway: None
 Confno: -1
 Propagated Conference: -1
 Real in conference: 0
 DSP: no
 Relax DTMF: no
 Dialing/CallwaitCAS: 0/0
 Default law: alaw
 Fax Handled: no
 Pulse phone: no
 Echo Cancellation: 128 taps unless TDM bridged, currently OFF
 Actual Confinfo: Num/0, Mode/0x
 Actual Confmute: No
 Hookstate (FXS only): Onhook
 *CLI
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Jones
 Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 6:21 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work
 
 OK so * is seeing the phone go offhook That is good
 
 How about if you call the handset, can you actually talk across the  
 connection? You said it rang, but now we need to establish you  
 actually have an audio connection.
 
 
 On Jul 3, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 
  If  lift up handset
3 17:48:57 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Starting simple switch on
  'Zap/94-1'
  Jul  3 17:49:14 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: not enough digits (and no  
  ambiguous
  match)...
  Jul  3 17:49:20 DEBUG[14192] chan_sip.c: Auto destroying call
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Hangup: channel: 94 index  
  = 0,
  normal = 42, callwait = -1, thirdcall = -1
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: disabled echo cancellation on
  channel 94
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Set option TDD MODE,  
  value: OFF(0)
  on Zap/94-1
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Updated conferencing on  
  94, with 0
  conference users
  Jul  3 17:49:21 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Hungup 'Zap/94-1'
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry  
  Jones
  Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:15 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work
 
  Are you seeing any messages on the console? You should be seeing
  something like Starting simple switch
 
  We would need more info to help more.
 
 
  On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 
 
  Hello All
 
  Please help me, I have next problem
  When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't
  hear
  dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
  When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work
 
 
  Thanks
  Viktor Tatianin
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-05 Thread Bill Schaffer
In your /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf file, what do you have the immediate
keyword set to?  I think it needs to be set to no if you want dialtone
and digit collection.  Also, changes in this file require a full stop
and restart of asterisk.

-Bill



On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 08:05:58PM +0300, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 After ring I hangup phone but don't speak at the phone silence :- 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Jones
 Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 6:21 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work
 
 OK so * is seeing the phone go offhook That is good
 
 How about if you call the handset, can you actually talk across the  
 connection? You said it rang, but now we need to establish you  
 actually have an audio connection.
 
 
 On Jul 3, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 
  If  lift up handset
3 17:48:57 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Starting simple switch on
  'Zap/94-1'
  Jul  3 17:49:14 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: not enough digits (and no  
  ambiguous
  match)...
  Jul  3 17:49:20 DEBUG[14192] chan_sip.c: Auto destroying call
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Hangup: channel: 94 index  
  = 0,
  normal = 42, callwait = -1, thirdcall = -1
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: disabled echo cancellation on
  channel 94
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Set option TDD MODE,  
  value: OFF(0)
  on Zap/94-1
  Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Updated conferencing on  
  94, with 0
  conference users
  Jul  3 17:49:21 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Hungup 'Zap/94-1'
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry  
  Jones
  Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:15 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work
 
  Are you seeing any messages on the console? You should be seeing
  something like Starting simple switch
 
  We would need more info to help more.
 
 
  On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:
 
 
  Hello All
 
  Please help me, I have next problem
  When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't
  hear
  dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
  When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work
 
 
  Thanks
  Viktor Tatianin
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-03 Thread Viktor Tatianin

Hello All

Please help me, I have next problem
When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't hear
dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work


Thanks
Viktor Tatianin 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-03 Thread Jerry Jones
Are you seeing any messages on the console? You should be seeing  
something like Starting simple switch


We would need more info to help more.


On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:



Hello All

Please help me, I have next problem
When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't  
hear

dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work


Thanks
Viktor Tatianin

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-03 Thread Viktor Tatianin
If  lift up handset 
  3 17:48:57 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Starting simple switch on
'Zap/94-1'
Jul  3 17:49:14 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: not enough digits (and no ambiguous
match)...
Jul  3 17:49:20 DEBUG[14192] chan_sip.c: Auto destroying call
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Hangup: channel: 94 index = 0,
normal = 42, callwait = -1, thirdcall = -1
Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: disabled echo cancellation on
channel 94
Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Set option TDD MODE, value: OFF(0)
on Zap/94-1
Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Updated conferencing on 94, with 0
conference users
Jul  3 17:49:21 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Hungup 'Zap/94-1'



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Jones
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:15 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

Are you seeing any messages on the console? You should be seeing  
something like Starting simple switch

We would need more info to help more.


On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:


 Hello All

 Please help me, I have next problem
 When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't  
 hear
 dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
 When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work


 Thanks
 Viktor Tatianin

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-03 Thread Viktor Tatianin
Show channels

asterisk1*CLI show channels
Channel  Location State   Application(Data)
Zap/94-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1Rsrvd   (None)
1 active channel
0 active calls

But at phone is silence 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Jones
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:15 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

Are you seeing any messages on the console? You should be seeing  
something like Starting simple switch

We would need more info to help more.


On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:


 Hello All

 Please help me, I have next problem
 When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't  
 hear
 dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
 When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work


 Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-03 Thread Jerry Jones

OK so * is seeing the phone go offhook That is good

How about if you call the handset, can you actually talk across the  
connection? You said it rang, but now we need to establish you  
actually have an audio connection.



On Jul 3, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:


If  lift up handset
  3 17:48:57 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Starting simple switch on
'Zap/94-1'
Jul  3 17:49:14 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: not enough digits (and no  
ambiguous

match)...
Jul  3 17:49:20 DEBUG[14192] chan_sip.c: Auto destroying call
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Hangup: channel: 94 index  
= 0,

normal = 42, callwait = -1, thirdcall = -1
Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: disabled echo cancellation on
channel 94
Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Set option TDD MODE,  
value: OFF(0)

on Zap/94-1
Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Updated conferencing on  
94, with 0

conference users
Jul  3 17:49:21 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Hungup 'Zap/94-1'



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry  
Jones

Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:15 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

Are you seeing any messages on the console? You should be seeing
something like Starting simple switch

We would need more info to help more.


On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:



Hello All

Please help me, I have next problem
When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't
hear
dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work


Thanks
Viktor Tatianin

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

2006-07-03 Thread Viktor Tatianin
After ring I hangup phone but don't speak at the phone silence :- 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Jones
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 6:21 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

OK so * is seeing the phone go offhook That is good

How about if you call the handset, can you actually talk across the  
connection? You said it rang, but now we need to establish you  
actually have an audio connection.


On Jul 3, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:

 If  lift up handset
   3 17:48:57 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Starting simple switch on
 'Zap/94-1'
 Jul  3 17:49:14 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: not enough digits (and no  
 ambiguous
 match)...
 Jul  3 17:49:20 DEBUG[14192] chan_sip.c: Auto destroying call
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Hangup: channel: 94 index  
 = 0,
 normal = 42, callwait = -1, thirdcall = -1
 Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: disabled echo cancellation on
 channel 94
 Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Set option TDD MODE,  
 value: OFF(0)
 on Zap/94-1
 Jul  3 17:49:21 DEBUG[14197] chan_zap.c: Updated conferencing on  
 94, with 0
 conference users
 Jul  3 17:49:21 VERBOSE[14197] logger.c: -- Hungup 'Zap/94-1'



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry  
 Jones
 Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:15 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank not work

 Are you seeing any messages on the console? You should be seeing
 something like Starting simple switch

 We would need more info to help more.


 On Jul 3, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Viktor Tatianin wrote:


 Hello All

 Please help me, I have next problem
 When lift up handset at phone which connect to channel bank I don't
 hear
 dialtone but if I dial this number phone ring
 When after ring hungup handset at phone voice not work


 Thanks
 Viktor Tatianin

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank woes - no outbound calls

2006-02-16 Thread Time Bandit
 [internal]
 exten = 5148346,1,Dial(Zap/g1/514836)

 Anybody out there have any ideas on why all of the digits aren't being sent 
 out?
Shouldn't this be like this ?
exten = 5148346,1,Dial(Zap/g1/5148346)
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[Asterisk-Users] Channel bank woes - no outbound calls

2006-02-15 Thread james.texter
So, I'm still having this problem with outbound calls not working when using a 
channel bank.  I've purchased a Rhino FXO channel bank from VoIPSupply.com to 
make sure it wasn't an equipment problem.  I am using a Digium TE411P card, and 
have simplified it down to just 1 port plugged into the channel bank, with just 
1 analog line plugged in.  If I place an inbound call on the line, it goes 
through just fine.  However, if I attempt an outbound call, I get Your call 
did not go through.  Please try your call again.  After much experimenting, I 
found out this happens if you dial some digits, but not enough for a full phone 
number.  My zaptel.conf looks like:

span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs
fxsks=1
loadzone=us
defaultzone=us

And my zapata.conf looks like:
[channels]
usecallerid=yes
hidecallerid=no
callwaiting=no
threewaycalling=no
transfer=no
echocancel=no

; define channels
group=1
context=from-pstn
signalling=fxs_ks
channel = 1

And finally, extensions.conf looks like:
[from-pstn]
exten = 6080,1,Answer()
exten = 6080,2,Playback(hello-world)
exten = 6080,3.Hangup()

[internal]
exten = 5148346,1,Dial(Zap/g1/514836)

Anybody out there have any ideas on why all of the digits aren't being sent out?

Thanks,

James

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank woes - no outbound calls

2006-02-15 Thread Doug Lytle

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, I'm still having this problem with outbound calls not working when using a channel bank.  I've purchased a Rhino FXO channel bank from VoIPSupply.com to make sure it wasn't an equipment problem.  I am using a Digium TE411P card, and have simplified it down to just 1 port plugged into the channel bank, with just 1 analog line plugged in.  If I place an inbound call on the line, it goes through just fine.  However, if I attempt an outbound call, I get Your call did not go through.  Please try your call again.  After much experimenting, I found out this happens if you 

  


James,

When I have problems with outbound on my Adit 600, it's usually because 
I have signaling screwed up on that channel.  (i.e. trying to grab a 
groundstart line with loopstart signaling).


Doug

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank woes - no outbound calls

2006-02-15 Thread James Texter
I'm hooked up to a regular analog POTS line.  I've tried both loop start 
and ground start, but no luck either way.  Any other thoughts?


Thanks,

James

Doug Lytle wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So, I'm still having this problem with outbound calls not working 
when using a channel bank.  I've purchased a Rhino FXO channel bank 
from VoIPSupply.com to make sure it wasn't an equipment problem.  I 
am using a Digium TE411P card, and have simplified it down to just 1 
port plugged into the channel bank, with just 1 analog line plugged 
in.  If I place an inbound call on the line, it goes through just 
fine.  However, if I attempt an outbound call, I get Your call did 
not go through.  Please try your call again.  After much 
experimenting, I found out this happens if you
  



James,

When I have problems with outbound on my Adit 600, it's usually 
because I have signaling screwed up on that channel.  (i.e. trying to 
grab a groundstart line with loopstart signaling).


Doug


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank woes - no outbound calls

2006-02-15 Thread Doug Lytle

James Texter wrote:
I'm hooked up to a regular analog POTS line.  I've tried both loop 
start and ground start, but no luck either way.  Any other thoughts?





Unfortunately, no.  I only have experience with the Adit 600

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-27 Thread Dinesh Nair


On 12/26/05 08:28 Andrew Kohlsmith said the following:
There are two problems with this:  1. the A104 can have each span's sync 
independent of the others, unlike the Digium cards.  2. With both spans 
trying to sync to each other you can run into interesting clock situations 
you may want to avoid.


what would the equivalent be for the digium cards ? would something like 
the following work ?


span=1,0,0
span=2,1,0
span=3,2,0
span=4,0,0

(note that span's 1 and 4 are set as PRI NET)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-27 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 05:25, Dinesh Nair wrote:
 what would the equivalent be for the digium cards ? would something like
 the following work ?

 span=1,0,0
 span=2,1,0
 span=3,2,0
 span=4,0,0

 (note that span's 1 and 4 are set as PRI NET)

What is each span connected to?  Remember that Digium multispan cards can only 
have one clock 'master' for all spans.  Span 3 in this case is shown as the 
secondary source, which means that the device connected to span 3 is 
expecting to be the clocking source.  This means that there will be frame 
slips and other nasties (HDLC aborts for PRI, etc.) on span 3 until span 2 
goes down and span 3 becomes the sync source.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-26 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)






  
Can you get just one channel bank working?  What exactly does it sound like?  
Frame slips sound like the occassional "chirp" or buzz.
  

I have always had one working. It was adding the second that caused so
much trouble.
It sounds like dropouts in the speech, short little dropouts..
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-26 Thread Rich Adamson

  I don't believe the above config is correct.
 
 It should have been fine.
 
  Both channel banks will be generating timing/clock signals within their
  transmit leg towards the asterisk box. That is part of T1/E1 low level
  protocol design and you can't change it even if you wanted to.
 
 Yes, but both channel banks can sync to the line, and the Sangoma card can be 
 set to not sync to the line, thus becoming the master on both spans.
 
  On the asterisk T1 port connected to CB2, use:
   span=2,2,0,esf,b8zs
  where the second 2 tells your asterisk T1 card to use this port for
  sync if the first port does dead, fails, cable is disconnected, or for
  any other reason that would essentially represent a failure of CB1.
 
 There are two problems with this:  1. the A104 can have each span's sync 
 independent of the others, unlike the Digium cards.  2. With both spans 
 trying to sync to each other you can run into interesting clock situations 
 you may want to avoid.

Ops, wasn't aware each span had independent clock/syncing. Sorry.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-26 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 26 December 2005 07:20, Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:
 I have always had one working. It was adding the second that caused so
 much trouble.
 It sounds like dropouts in the speech, short little dropouts..

Do you have trouble on *both* when you add the second?  What happens if you 
swap the ports the that channel banks plug in to?  Does the problem stick 
with the span or the channel bank?

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[Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-25 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)
Can anyone help me understand channel bank timing? I have a server with 
a Sangoma A104 T1 card connected to two channel banks and I am having 
audio problems that is clearly timing errors. I thought I understood how 
to configure it but clearly I don't.
All my incoming lines are PSTN, I do not have access to PRI. All my 
extension phones are SIP. My asterisk version is 1.2.1.


Channel bank 1: Adtran 600 with 12 FXO:
Timing set to Network on CB
/etc/zapata.conf: span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs


Channel Bank 2: Adtran 750 with 12 FXO
Timing set to loop on channel bank controller
span=2,0,0,esf,b8zs

With this configuration I am getting choppy sound. What should they be 
set to?


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-25 Thread Rich Adamson
 Can anyone help me understand channel bank timing? I have a server with 
 a Sangoma A104 T1 card connected to two channel banks and I am having 
 audio problems that is clearly timing errors. I thought I understood how 
 to configure it but clearly I don't.
 All my incoming lines are PSTN, I do not have access to PRI. All my 
 extension phones are SIP. My asterisk version is 1.2.1.
 
 Channel bank 1: Adtran 600 with 12 FXO:
 Timing set to Network on CB
 /etc/zapata.conf: span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs
 
 
 Channel Bank 2: Adtran 750 with 12 FXO
 Timing set to loop on channel bank controller
 span=2,0,0,esf,b8zs
 
 With this configuration I am getting choppy sound. What should they be 
 set to?

I don't believe the above config is correct.

Pick one of the channel banks and declare it as your source for timing.
I'll pick CB1 so as to follow through the words below.

Both channel banks will be generating timing/clock signals within their
transmit leg towards the asterisk box. That is part of T1/E1 low level
protocol design and you can't change it even if you wanted to.

On the asterisk T1 port connected to CB1, use:
 span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs
where the second 1 tells your asterisk T1 card to use this port for
syncing the onboard T1 clock (on the Sangoma card).

On the asterisk T1 port connected to CB2, use:
 span=2,2,0,esf,b8zs
where the second 2 tells your asterisk T1 card to use this port for
sync if the first port does dead, fails, cable is disconnected, or for
any other reason that would essentially represent a failure of CB1.

On CB2, configure it to obtain its clock sync from the T1. (I don't
have any Adtrans around, so can't tell you exactly what the setting
words are.)

On CB1, configure it to use internal T1 clocking (whatever words those
happen to be for an Adtran).

If you just want to play around without changing the CB at all, just
change the second digit in span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs to indicate that its
your source for timing. Only one span= statement can have a 1.

I'm not 100% sure on this next statement, but would guess you'll need to
stop asterisk and reload the T1 card drivers (or simply reboot).


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-25 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 25 December 2005 18:39, Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:
 Can anyone help me understand channel bank timing? I have a server with
 a Sangoma A104 T1 card connected to two channel banks and I am having
 audio problems that is clearly timing errors. I thought I understood how
 to configure it but clearly I don't.
 All my incoming lines are PSTN, I do not have access to PRI. All my
 extension phones are SIP. My asterisk version is 1.2.1.

Tell the Channel Banks clock to the line, and have the Sangoma card NOT sync 
to anything (i.e. the A104 is the master, the channel banks the slaves).

Basically clocking works this way:  Each end of a T1 sends data generated by 
an on-board clock.  These two clocks (one at each side) needs to be in 
perfect sync with each other or you get frame slips and other nasties.  The 
solution is to have one of these clocks lock or synchronize to the far side.  
This is know by several names, among them line clock, recovered clock, 
slave clock, etc.  The side that is not trying to synchronize is also known 
my several names... master clock, internal clock, etc.

So it comes down to this:  One side must synchronize its clock to the other 
side (which does NOT do this) or you will have frame slips.  The Digium 
multi-span T1/E1 cards can only slave to one clock for the whole card, 
whereas the Sangoma cards are a little different and can have each span slave 
to its own clock.

For your particular application it doesn't matter.  Have the card provide sync 
(be the master, internal, etc.) and have the channel banks recover clock (be 
the slave, use line clock, etc.) from the line.

Hopefully that helps.  :-)

 Channel bank 1: Adtran 600 with 12 FXO:
 Timing set to Network on CB
 /etc/zapata.conf: span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs

 Channel Bank 2: Adtran 750 with 12 FXO
 Timing set to loop on channel bank controller
 span=2,0,0,esf,b8zs

That looks perfect.  Make sure that you really are setting that.  IIRC the 
Sangoma card needs to have its clock set with the wancfg utility and not just 
ztcfg.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-25 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 25 December 2005 18:47, Rich Adamson wrote:
 I don't believe the above config is correct.

It should have been fine.

 Both channel banks will be generating timing/clock signals within their
 transmit leg towards the asterisk box. That is part of T1/E1 low level
 protocol design and you can't change it even if you wanted to.

Yes, but both channel banks can sync to the line, and the Sangoma card can be 
set to not sync to the line, thus becoming the master on both spans.

 On the asterisk T1 port connected to CB2, use:
  span=2,2,0,esf,b8zs
 where the second 2 tells your asterisk T1 card to use this port for
 sync if the first port does dead, fails, cable is disconnected, or for
 any other reason that would essentially represent a failure of CB1.

There are two problems with this:  1. the A104 can have each span's sync 
independent of the others, unlike the Digium cards.  2. With both spans 
trying to sync to each other you can run into interesting clock situations 
you may want to avoid.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-25 Thread Chris Mason

Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:

Tell the Channel Banks clock to the line, and have the Sangoma card NOT sync 
to anything (i.e. the A104 is the master, the channel banks the slaves).
 


I set the card up so that
Port1
TE_CLOCK= MASTER
TE_REF_CLOCK= 0
Port2
TE_CLOCK = NORMAL
TE_REF_CLOCK = 1

which should make Port 2 take it's timing from Port 1 and Port 1 take 
it's timing from the onboard clock.


Basically clocking works this way:  Each end of a T1 sends data generated by 
an on-board clock.  These two clocks (one at each side) needs to be in 
perfect sync with each other or you get frame slips and other nasties.  The 
solution is to have one of these clocks lock or synchronize to the far side.  
This is know by several names, among them line clock, recovered clock, 
slave clock, etc.  The side that is not trying to synchronize is also known 
my several names... master clock, internal clock, etc.
 

On the 600 I set it to Timing = Network, but on the 750 I can't figure 
out which one of these it should be.

LOOP
LOCAL
EXTERNAL

On the 600, the manual says:
The selected clock option always designates the clock source for 
transmission. Clocking necessary for receiving data is always recovered 
from incoming data.


I think the 600 manual also gives me the answer for the 750:
Network Timing - The network is the source of timing. The received data 
clocking is looped back to the network, where it is used to determine 
the transmission timing. This option is also referred to as loop timed 
as the transmission clock is derived from the received clock.


So for the 750, loop would be the same thing.

So, as far as I can tell, everything is set correctly. Which is a 
problem because it does not sound right.


 



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank timing

2005-12-25 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Sunday 25 December 2005 20:47, Chris Mason wrote:
 I set the card up so that
 Port1
 TE_CLOCK= MASTER
 TE_REF_CLOCK= 0
 Port2
 TE_CLOCK = NORMAL
 TE_REF_CLOCK = 1

 which should make Port 2 take it's timing from Port 1 and Port 1 take
 it's timing from the onboard clock.

Ok; I'm not *that* familliar with the Sangoma cards (I do love their S518 ADSL 
card though!) so I'll have to believe you on that setup.  :-)

 On the 600 I set it to Timing = Network, but on the 750 I can't figure
 out which one of these it should be.
 LOOP
 LOCAL
 EXTERNAL

Loop.

 On the 600, the manual says:
 The selected clock option always designates the clock source for
 transmission. Clocking necessary for receiving data is always recovered
 from incoming data.

Yup.  You want Loop or Network.

 So for the 750, loop would be the same thing.

Correct.

 So, as far as I can tell, everything is set correctly. Which is a
 problem because it does not sound right.

Can you get just one channel bank working?  What exactly does it sound like?  
Frame slips sound like the occassional chirp or buzz.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Help Please....

2005-08-04 Thread jj

Sounds like the two devices are not agreeing on the signalling.

double check the channel bank settings against the zaptel ones. You  
did run ztcfg after changing the zaptel file right? zttool should be  
helpful here.


On Aug 2, 2005, at 1:11 PM, David Sampson wrote:


Hello –



I have a Premisys Slimline Channel Bank connected to a Digium  
TE110P.  I am not able to call the FXS extensions or get dialtone  
on them.  The channel bank is connected via a T1 crossover to the  
cable and lights show green.  I really need to get this functioning  
by end of day.  If anyone can help me out I would be greatly  
appreciative.




Thanks,


Dave



zaptel.conf



loadzone = us

defaultzone=us

span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs

fxoks=1-24



zapata.conf



[channels]

group=1

language=en

signalling=fxo_ks

usecallerid=no

context=default

echocancel=yes

echocancelwhenbridged=yes

echotraining=400

rxgain=1.0

txgain=1.0

channel = 1-24



extensions.conf



exten = 3500,1,Dial,Zap/1|60 ;

exten = 3500,2,Hangup



exten = 3501,1,Dial,Zap/2|60 ;

exten = 3501,2,Hangup



exten = 3502,1,Dial,Zap/3|60 ;

exten = 3502,2,Hangup



exten = 3503,1,Dial,Zap/4|60 ;

exten = 3503,2,Hangup



exten = 3504,1,Dial,Zap/5|60 ;

exten = 3504,2,Hangup



exten = 3505,1,Dial,Zap/6|60 ;

exten = 3505,2,Hangup



exten = 3506,1,Dial,Zap/7|60 ;

exten = 3506,2,Hangup



exten = 3507,1,Dial,Zap/8|60 ;

exten = 3507,2,Hangup



exten = 3508,1,Dial,Zap/9|60 ;

exten = 3508,2,Hangup



exten = 3509,1,Dial,Zap/10|60 ;

exten = 3509,2,Hangup



When I attempt to call these extensions I get:



*CLI dial 3501

-- Executing Dial(OSS/dsp, Zap/2|60) in new stack

-- Called 2

-- Zap/2-1 is ringing

-- Zap/2-1 is ringing

Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 1: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 3: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 4: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 5: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 6: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 7: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 8: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 9: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 10: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 11: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 12: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 13: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 14: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 15: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 16: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 17: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 18: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 19: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 20: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 21: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 22: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 23: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 24: Yellow Alarm


Aug  2 12:59:50 WARNING[3401]: chan_zap.c:3195 zt_handle_event:  
Detected alarm on channel 2: Yellow Alarm


-- Hungup 'Zap/2-1'

  == No one is available to answer at this time

-- Executing Hangup(OSS/dsp, ) in new stack

  == Spawn extension (local, 3501, 2) exited non-zero on 'OSS/dsp'

  Hangup on console 

Aug  2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679 handle_init_event:  
Alarm cleared on channel 1


Aug  2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679 handle_init_event:  
Alarm cleared on channel 2


Aug  2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679 handle_init_event:  
Alarm cleared on 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Help Please....

2005-08-04 Thread jj
Actually Adits are pretty much self configuring for fxs anyway - I  
can install and only have to set ip info



On Aug 2, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Doug Lytle wrote:


David Sampson wrote:



Hello –

I have a Premisys Slimline Channel Bank connected to a Digium  
TE110P. I am not able to call the FXS extensions or get dialtone  
on them. The channel bank is connected via a T1 crossover to the  
cable and lights show green. I really need to get this functioning  
by end of day. If anyone can help me out I would be greatly  
appreciative.


Thanks,





David,

You need to do more then just plug the channel bank in and expect  
it to work. You need to configure it. If it's anything like an Adit  
600, you need to tell the channel bank how to setup each channel on  
the cards.


Doug

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[Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Help Please....

2005-08-02 Thread David Sampson








Hello 



I have a Premisys Slimline Channel Bank connected to a
Digium TE110P. I am not able to call the FXS extensions or get dialtone on
them. The channel bank is connected via a T1 crossover to the cable and lights
show green. I really need to get this functioning by end of day. If
anyone can help me out I would be greatly appreciative.



Thanks,


Dave



zaptel.conf



loadzone = us

defaultzone=us

span=1,1,0,esf,b8zs

fxoks=1-24



zapata.conf



[channels]

 group=1

 language=en

 signalling=fxo_ks

 usecallerid=no

 context=default

 echocancel=yes


echocancelwhenbridged=yes

 echotraining=400

 rxgain=1.0

 txgain=1.0

 channel =
1-24



extensions.conf



exten = 3500,1,Dial,Zap/1|60 ; 

exten = 3500,2,Hangup



exten = 3501,1,Dial,Zap/2|60 ; 

exten = 3501,2,Hangup



exten = 3502,1,Dial,Zap/3|60 ; 

exten = 3502,2,Hangup



exten = 3503,1,Dial,Zap/4|60 ; 

exten = 3503,2,Hangup



exten = 3504,1,Dial,Zap/5|60 ; 

exten = 3504,2,Hangup



exten = 3505,1,Dial,Zap/6|60 ; 

exten = 3505,2,Hangup



exten = 3506,1,Dial,Zap/7|60 ; 

exten = 3506,2,Hangup



exten = 3507,1,Dial,Zap/8|60 ; 

exten = 3507,2,Hangup



exten = 3508,1,Dial,Zap/9|60 ; 

exten = 3508,2,Hangup



exten = 3509,1,Dial,Zap/10|60 ; 

exten = 3509,2,Hangup



When I attempt to call these extensions I get:



*CLI dial 3501

 -- Executing Dial(OSS/dsp,
Zap/2|60) in new stack

 -- Called 2

 -- Zap/2-1 is ringing

 -- Zap/2-1 is ringing

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 1: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 3: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 4: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 5: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 6: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 7: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 8: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 9: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 10: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 11: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 12: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 13: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 14: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:
Detected alarm on channel 15: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 16: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 17: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 18: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 19: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 20: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 21: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684 handle_init_event:
Detected alarm on channel 22: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 23: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3397]: chan_zap.c:5684
handle_init_event: Detected alarm on channel 24: Yellow Alarm

Aug 2 12:59:50 WARNING[3401]: chan_zap.c:3195
zt_handle_event: Detected alarm on channel 2: Yellow Alarm

 -- Hungup 'Zap/2-1'

 == No one is available to answer at this time

 -- Executing Hangup(OSS/dsp,
) in new stack

 == Spawn extension (local, 3501, 2) exited non-zero
on 'OSS/dsp'

 Hangup on console 

Aug 2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679
handle_init_event: Alarm cleared on channel 1

Aug 2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679
handle_init_event: Alarm cleared on channel 2

Aug 2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679
handle_init_event: Alarm cleared on channel 3

Aug 2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679
handle_init_event: Alarm cleared on channel 4

Aug 2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679
handle_init_event: Alarm cleared on channel 5

Aug 2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679
handle_init_event: Alarm cleared on channel 6

Aug 2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679
handle_init_event: Alarm cleared on channel 7

Aug 2 12:59:55 NOTICE[3397]: chan_zap.c:5679
handle_init_event: Alarm cleared on channel 8

Aug 2 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Help Please....

2005-08-02 Thread Doug Lytle

David Sampson wrote:


Hello –

I have a Premisys Slimline Channel Bank connected to a Digium TE110P. 
I am not able to call the FXS extensions or get dialtone on them. The 
channel bank is connected via a T1 crossover to the cable and lights 
show green. I really need to get this functioning by end of day. If 
anyone can help me out I would be greatly appreciative.


Thanks,




David,

You need to do more then just plug the channel bank in and expect it to 
work. You need to configure it. If it's anything like an Adit 600, you 
need to tell the channel bank how to setup each channel on the cards.


Doug

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[Asterisk-Users] Channel bank of E1s? (one E1 input -- 2 x E1 output)

2005-04-29 Thread ht
Hi,

Assume I have one E1 digium card to which I want to plug two distinct E1 PABXs ,
one with 15 channels and the other with 15 channels;

Is there a sort of E1 multiplexer devise that allows me to plug in one hand the
E1 port of the Digium card and on the other hand the two PABXs? In this same
devise, I should be able to say that 15 channels need to go to first Interface
and 15 other channels need to go to other interface.

Or is it necessary to acquire a another E1 card although I don't need to process
more channels (30 channels are ok).

Any help is greatly appreciated.



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank of E1s? (one E1 input -- 2 x E1 output)

2005-04-29 Thread Matteo Brancaleoni
yes, some multiplexer allows that, but they're quite expensive
compared to another E1 card for asterisk.
I think you'll need at least 1k $$$ for a such splitter.

Matteo.

Il giorno ven, 29-04-2005 alle 17:33 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 Hi,
 
 Assume I have one E1 digium card to which I want to plug two distinct E1 
 PABXs ,
 one with 15 channels and the other with 15 channels;
 
 Is there a sort of E1 multiplexer devise that allows me to plug in one hand 
 the
 E1 port of the Digium card and on the other hand the two PABXs? In this same
 devise, I should be able to say that 15 channels need to go to first Interface
 and 15 other channels need to go to other interface.
 
 Or is it necessary to acquire a another E1 card although I don't need to 
 process
 more channels (30 channels are ok).
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank of E1s? (one E1 input -- 2 x E1 output)

2005-04-29 Thread Julio Arruda
Matteo Brancaleoni wrote:
yes, some multiplexer allows that, but they're quite expensive
compared to another E1 card for asterisk.
I think you'll need at least 1k $$$ for a such splitter.

Matteo, would you have any reference for this 'mux/splitter' ?
I would guess it need to be smart enough to dig into the signalling, 
since is not only the PCM DS0s that would need to be Y-splitted.
[], O-O

Il giorno ven, 29-04-2005 alle 17:33 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
Hi,
Assume I have one E1 digium card to which I want to plug two distinct E1 PABXs ,
one with 15 channels and the other with 15 channels;
Is there a sort of E1 multiplexer devise that allows me to plug in one hand the
E1 port of the Digium card and on the other hand the two PABXs? In this same
devise, I should be able to say that 15 channels need to go to first Interface
and 15 other channels need to go to other interface.
Or is it necessary to acquire a another E1 card although I don't need to process
more channels (30 channels are ok).
Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank of E1s? (one E1 input -- 2 x E1 output)

2005-04-29 Thread ht
I just called this company. They seem to do what is required. Now remains the
pricing part of it. I will wait for their feedback.

http://www.megatelindustries.com/products.htm

Hakem,


Selon Julio Arruda [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Matteo Brancaleoni wrote:
  yes, some multiplexer allows that, but they're quite expensive
  compared to another E1 card for asterisk.
  I think you'll need at least 1k $$$ for a such splitter.
 


 Matteo, would you have any reference for this 'mux/splitter' ?
 I would guess it need to be smart enough to dig into the signalling,
 since is not only the PCM DS0s that would need to be Y-splitted.
 [], O-O

 
  Il giorno ven, 29-04-2005 alle 17:33 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 
 Hi,
 
 Assume I have one E1 digium card to which I want to plug two distinct E1
 PABXs ,
 one with 15 channels and the other with 15 channels;
 
 Is there a sort of E1 multiplexer devise that allows me to plug in one hand
 the
 E1 port of the Digium card and on the other hand the two PABXs? In this
 same
 devise, I should be able to say that 15 channels need to go to first
 Interface
 and 15 other channels need to go to other interface.
 
 Or is it necessary to acquire a another E1 card although I don't need to
 process
 more channels (30 channels are ok).
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank of E1s? (one E1 input -- 2 x E1 output)

2005-04-29 Thread Neal Walton
Many channel banks have two T-1 connectors and support a feature called 
'drop and insert'.  This allows some of the DS0 channels to be cross 
connected from one T-1 connection to the other.  The first T-1 connection 
can go to the telco or an interface card in a computer, and the second T-1 
can go to another channel bank.  Some of the channels can be dropped off at 
the first channel bank while the rest can continue on to the second channel 
bank.  You are asking about E-1 and PBX instead of T-1 and channel bank, 
but if I understand the 'drop and insert' correctly, and if your hardware 
supports it, this may work for you.

 Il giorno ven, 29-04-2005 alle 17:33 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

Hi,

Assume I have one E1 digium card to which I want to plug two distinct E1 
PABXs ,
one with 15 channels and the other with 15 channels;

Is there a sort of E1 multiplexer devise that allows me to plug in one 
hand the
E1 port of the Digium card and on the other hand the two PABXs? In this 
same
devise, I should be able to say that 15 channels need to go to first 
Interface
and 15 other channels need to go to other interface.

Or is it necessary to acquire a another E1 card although I don't need to 
process
more channels (30 channels are ok).

Any help is greatly appreciated.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank replacement

2005-04-09 Thread Jerry
I enjoy using the Adit 600 with the new FXS cards via the controller T1 
interfaces. Works well. I do have concerns with using the CMG card via 
MGCP. Has anyone done this? How is it working?

On Apr 8, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Matt Schulte wrote:
Word of warning, get the version 5 or higher FXS cards with the 
ADIT600,
else you will have echo problems. This is just from personal 
experience.
Supposedly the 5 and higher cards have dynamic impedance adjustment,
it's worth it.

Matt
-Original Message-
From: Peter Hoppe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:23 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank replacement
Thank you so much for your answers already, I really appreciate it!
I have looked into using an Adtran Total Access 750 platform instead,
but got away from that idea after I saw the totally confusing amount of
options of different modules I can buy. The Adit 600 seemed so much
simpler to put together. Also, the Adit 600 had such an excellent
appraisal in the asterisk voip-info - see
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20Channel%20Bank
But maybe I need to come back to the Adtran TA750. Unfortunately that
platform seems to only offer 24 fxs ports per unit and I need to buy an
expensive T1 card. I would buy the Digium T1 card - it seems that it is
by far the least expensive card, but $500 is still something. That's 
why

I toyed with the Adit 600 plus cmg card - all I need is a standard
network card on the Asterisk machine.
We have sorely abandoned the idea of using an extensive amount of voip
phones on the property, as we are not a homogenous office setup (ppl
also live on the property).
This solution would mean
* putting in an entire new cat5 network. I would be the person who 
would

have to put it all in place - When would I be finished? In 2 years? 4
years? 10 years?
* lots of admin hassle to enable all the phones / add new phones /
remove phones
* users can't easily extend stations at end points. With two wire phone
they simply switch one parallel to the existing one - no admin hassle /
extra hubs etc.
* two wire technology enables us to buy almost any phone available.
* security concerns with the SIP protocol. See
http://secunia.com/advisories/8169/ as an example
* users potentially plugging their laptops into the voip sockets and
browsing/downloading away = lots of setup/admin hassle with the
firewall (how do you block Kazaa?)
* Phones potentially breaking when users unplug power during firmware
download. For example, this is an issue with the Grandstream phone.
The only alternative that seems feasible at the moment would be
* a different channel bank than the adit 600 or
* a voip gateway that multiplexes many fxs ports into one ethernet
connection. But before I would go down that route I would have to be
absolutely sure that the SIP conforms to the standard, the upgrades are
free and the fxs ports are compatible with uk standard two wire phones.
I found that some two wire phones actually use 4 wires - confusing
* a bank of ATAs (handytone 286 or similar). I *really* don't like that
solution, as it is a bad botch job and throws lots of issues like which
REN they have, many power supplies (or one big one). I really ought to
be red in the face for even mentioning that solution. But if nothing
else is available, I would probably have to buy them in bulk, take the
boards out and mount them in a 19'' box together with a hub so I build
my own voip gateway :) maybe it's not so botch after all :) )
For connection to the PSTN: We have three BT lines, and again, we would
not like to move over to a different technology like ISDN. The lines
work for us, and 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. We would use three
Sipura SPA-3000 interfaces to connect them to the internal network. The
SPA-3000 is sold in the UK and has the CE approval, so it should 
legally

be ok. I am experimenting with one unit at the moment, and am smacked 
by

the literally hundreds of options it has. But I heard good reports 
about

that one, so I expect it to work well in our setting.

Hi Peter, I'm not sure how you are getting PSTN lines into your * box,

but if
it's not ISDN30, you might want to consider some of the cheap IAX
phones on
the market now rather than trying to soldier on with old analogue kit?
e.g. http://www.iaxtalk.com/product_info.php?cPath=1products_id=29
Shipping for 30 units and UK power supplies was $340, and with the
weak dollar
right now, that works out at just over 40 quid per phone - I'm sure
there's
movement on the unit price when buying in bulk...
Now remove the need for an Asterisk Quad-E1 / T1 interface card and
you've
dropped the cost by nearly a grand food for thought :)
They also sell a single-ethernet-port version of the phone for $10
less if you
have enough ethernet sockets.
Cheers,
Gavin.


I got an Adtran 600 with 12 X FXO and 12 X FXS cards for $495 from
Penny Doyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the strength of the pound

[Asterisk-Users] Channel bank replacement

2005-04-08 Thread Peter Hoppe
Hello,
I am working for a charity in the UK and I am projecting a new phone system.
We would like to connect our two-wire telephones (40 or so) to an ADIT 
600 channel bank, and connect that into an Asterisk box via the CMG card 
or T1 card.

I have been in talks with Carrier Access about the purchase of a new 
channel bank and we tried to get a minor version of it first for testing 
with the intention of upgrading to the full product if we are happy with it.

Unfortunately since a few months I cannot get any further with CAC, as 
they keep not coming back to us on how we proceed. I feel that the 
channel bank would be the best solution, but it seems that we are just 
to small fish to fry for them.

So - would there be any other way to connect 40+ telephones (two wire) 
into an asterisk box? Are there any voip gateways that actually conform 
to SIP standard (unlike what I heard from the Mediatrix voip gateways 
1124 and 1204 which seem to use non standard SIP and have 
pay-as-you-upgrade)?

Thank you very much for your consideration!
Peter Hoppe
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank replacement

2005-04-08 Thread ht
Maybe following options:

1-) Get another channel bank from ebay at low cost. Which will also need another
T1 card;

2-) Use 40 voip phones at 50 USD each and you no longer need the card neither
the channel bank. But a reliable local network ;


Selon Peter Hoppe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello,

 I am working for a charity in the UK and I am projecting a new phone system.

 We would like to connect our two-wire telephones (40 or so) to an ADIT
 600 channel bank, and connect that into an Asterisk box via the CMG card
 or T1 card.

 I have been in talks with Carrier Access about the purchase of a new
 channel bank and we tried to get a minor version of it first for testing
 with the intention of upgrading to the full product if we are happy with it.

 Unfortunately since a few months I cannot get any further with CAC, as
 they keep not coming back to us on how we proceed. I feel that the
 channel bank would be the best solution, but it seems that we are just
 to small fish to fry for them.

 So - would there be any other way to connect 40+ telephones (two wire)
 into an asterisk box? Are there any voip gateways that actually conform
 to SIP standard (unlike what I heard from the Mediatrix voip gateways
 1124 and 1204 which seem to use non standard SIP and have
 pay-as-you-upgrade)?

 Thank you very much for your consideration!

 Peter Hoppe
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank replacement

2005-04-08 Thread Gavin Hamill
On Friday 08 April 2005 16:35, Peter Hoppe wrote:
 Hello,

 I am working for a charity in the UK and I am projecting a new phone
 system.


 So - would there be any other way to connect 40+ telephones (two wire)
 into an asterisk box? Are there any voip gateways that actually conform
 to SIP standard (unlike what I heard from the Mediatrix voip gateways
 1124 and 1204 which seem to use non standard SIP and have
 pay-as-you-upgrade)?

 Thank you very much for your consideration!

Hi Peter, I'm not sure how you are getting PSTN lines into your * box, but if 
it's not ISDN30, you might want to consider some of the cheap IAX phones on 
the market now rather than trying to soldier on with old analogue kit?

e.g. http://www.iaxtalk.com/product_info.php?cPath=1products_id=29

Shipping for 30 units and UK power supplies was $340, and with the weak dollar 
right now, that works out at just over 40 quid per phone - I'm sure there's 
movement on the unit price when buying in bulk...

Now remove the need for an Asterisk Quad-E1 / T1 interface card and you've 
dropped the cost by nearly a grand food for thought :)

They also sell a single-ethernet-port version of the phone for $10 less if you 
have enough ethernet sockets.

Cheers,
Gavin.
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[Asterisk-Users] Channel bank replacement

2005-04-08 Thread Peter Hoppe
Thank you so much for your answers already, I really appreciate it!
I have looked into using an Adtran Total Access 750 platform instead, 
but got away from that idea after I saw the totally confusing amount of 
options of different modules I can buy. The Adit 600 seemed so much 
simpler to put together. Also, the Adit 600 had such an excellent 
appraisal in the asterisk voip-info - see

http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20Channel%20Bank
But maybe I need to come back to the Adtran TA750. Unfortunately that 
platform seems to only offer 24 fxs ports per unit and I need to buy an 
expensive T1 card. I would buy the Digium T1 card - it seems that it is 
by far the least expensive card, but $500 is still something. That's why 
I toyed with the Adit 600 plus cmg card - all I need is a standard 
network card on the Asterisk machine.

We have sorely abandoned the idea of using an extensive amount of voip 
phones on the property, as we are not a homogenous office setup (ppl 
also live on the property).
This solution would mean
* putting in an entire new cat5 network. I would be the person who would 
have to put it all in place - When would I be finished? In 2 years? 4 
years? 10 years?
* lots of admin hassle to enable all the phones / add new phones / 
remove phones
* users can't easily extend stations at end points. With two wire phone 
they simply switch one parallel to the existing one - no admin hassle / 
extra hubs etc.
* two wire technology enables us to buy almost any phone available.
* security concerns with the SIP protocol. See 
http://secunia.com/advisories/8169/ as an example
* users potentially plugging their laptops into the voip sockets and 
browsing/downloading away = lots of setup/admin hassle with the 
firewall (how do you block Kazaa?)
* Phones potentially breaking when users unplug power during firmware 
download. For example, this is an issue with the Grandstream phone.

The only alternative that seems feasible at the moment would be
* a different channel bank than the adit 600 or
* a voip gateway that multiplexes many fxs ports into one ethernet 
connection. But before I would go down that route I would have to be 
absolutely sure that the SIP conforms to the standard, the upgrades are 
free and the fxs ports are compatible with uk standard two wire phones. 
I found that some two wire phones actually use 4 wires - confusing

* a bank of ATAs (handytone 286 or similar). I *really* don't like that 
solution, as it is a bad botch job and throws lots of issues like which 
REN they have, many power supplies (or one big one). I really ought to 
be red in the face for even mentioning that solution. But if nothing 
else is available, I would probably have to buy them in bulk, take the 
boards out and mount them in a 19'' box together with a hub so I build 
my own voip gateway :) maybe it's not so botch after all :) )

For connection to the PSTN: We have three BT lines, and again, we would 
not like to move over to a different technology like ISDN. The lines 
work for us, and 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. We would use three 
Sipura SPA-3000 interfaces to connect them to the internal network. The 
SPA-3000 is sold in the UK and has the CE approval, so it should legally 
be ok. I am experimenting with one unit at the moment, and am smacked by 
the literally hundreds of options it has. But I heard good reports about 
that one, so I expect it to work well in our setting.


Hi Peter, I'm not sure how you are getting PSTN lines into your * box, but if 
it's not ISDN30, you might want to consider some of the cheap IAX phones on 
the market now rather than trying to soldier on with old analogue kit?

e.g. http://www.iaxtalk.com/product_info.php?cPath=1products_id=29
Shipping for 30 units and UK power supplies was $340, and with the weak dollar 
right now, that works out at just over 40 quid per phone - I'm sure there's 
movement on the unit price when buying in bulk...

Now remove the need for an Asterisk Quad-E1 / T1 interface card and you've 
dropped the cost by nearly a grand food for thought :)

They also sell a single-ethernet-port version of the phone for $10 less if you 
have enough ethernet sockets.

Cheers,
Gavin.


I got an Adtran 600 with 12 X FXO and 12 X FXS cards for $495 from Penny
Doyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the strength of the pound, that would
practically be free to you!
 

Chris Mason


Date: Fri,  8 Apr 2005 17:42:56 +0200

Maybe following options:
1-) Get another channel bank from ebay at low cost. Which will also need another
T1 card;
2-) Use 40 voip phones at 50 USD each and you no longer need the card neither
the channel bank. But a reliable local network ;

Hello,
I am working for a charity in the UK and I am projecting a new phone system.
We would like to connect our two-wire telephones (40 or so) to an ADIT 600 
channel bank, and connect that into an Asterisk box via the CMG card or T1 card.
I have been in talks with Carrier Access about the purchase 

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank replacement

2005-04-08 Thread Matt Schulte
Word of warning, get the version 5 or higher FXS cards with the ADIT600,
else you will have echo problems. This is just from personal experience.
Supposedly the 5 and higher cards have dynamic impedance adjustment,
it's worth it.

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Peter Hoppe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:23 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank replacement


Thank you so much for your answers already, I really appreciate it!

I have looked into using an Adtran Total Access 750 platform instead, 
but got away from that idea after I saw the totally confusing amount of 
options of different modules I can buy. The Adit 600 seemed so much 
simpler to put together. Also, the Adit 600 had such an excellent 
appraisal in the asterisk voip-info - see

http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20Channel%20Bank

But maybe I need to come back to the Adtran TA750. Unfortunately that 
platform seems to only offer 24 fxs ports per unit and I need to buy an 
expensive T1 card. I would buy the Digium T1 card - it seems that it is 
by far the least expensive card, but $500 is still something. That's why

I toyed with the Adit 600 plus cmg card - all I need is a standard 
network card on the Asterisk machine.

We have sorely abandoned the idea of using an extensive amount of voip 
phones on the property, as we are not a homogenous office setup (ppl 
also live on the property).
This solution would mean
* putting in an entire new cat5 network. I would be the person who would

have to put it all in place - When would I be finished? In 2 years? 4 
years? 10 years?
* lots of admin hassle to enable all the phones / add new phones / 
remove phones
* users can't easily extend stations at end points. With two wire phone 
they simply switch one parallel to the existing one - no admin hassle / 
extra hubs etc.
* two wire technology enables us to buy almost any phone available.
* security concerns with the SIP protocol. See 
http://secunia.com/advisories/8169/ as an example
* users potentially plugging their laptops into the voip sockets and 
browsing/downloading away = lots of setup/admin hassle with the 
firewall (how do you block Kazaa?)
* Phones potentially breaking when users unplug power during firmware 
download. For example, this is an issue with the Grandstream phone.

The only alternative that seems feasible at the moment would be

* a different channel bank than the adit 600 or

* a voip gateway that multiplexes many fxs ports into one ethernet 
connection. But before I would go down that route I would have to be 
absolutely sure that the SIP conforms to the standard, the upgrades are 
free and the fxs ports are compatible with uk standard two wire phones. 
I found that some two wire phones actually use 4 wires - confusing

* a bank of ATAs (handytone 286 or similar). I *really* don't like that 
solution, as it is a bad botch job and throws lots of issues like which 
REN they have, many power supplies (or one big one). I really ought to 
be red in the face for even mentioning that solution. But if nothing 
else is available, I would probably have to buy them in bulk, take the 
boards out and mount them in a 19'' box together with a hub so I build 
my own voip gateway :) maybe it's not so botch after all :) )


For connection to the PSTN: We have three BT lines, and again, we would 
not like to move over to a different technology like ISDN. The lines 
work for us, and 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. We would use three 
Sipura SPA-3000 interfaces to connect them to the internal network. The 
SPA-3000 is sold in the UK and has the CE approval, so it should legally

be ok. I am experimenting with one unit at the moment, and am smacked by

the literally hundreds of options it has. But I heard good reports about

that one, so I expect it to work well in our setting.


 Hi Peter, I'm not sure how you are getting PSTN lines into your * box,

 but if
 it's not ISDN30, you might want to consider some of the cheap IAX
phones on 
 the market now rather than trying to soldier on with old analogue kit?
 
 e.g. http://www.iaxtalk.com/product_info.php?cPath=1products_id=29
 
 Shipping for 30 units and UK power supplies was $340, and with the 
 weak dollar
 right now, that works out at just over 40 quid per phone - I'm sure
there's 
 movement on the unit price when buying in bulk...
 
 Now remove the need for an Asterisk Quad-E1 / T1 interface card and 
 you've
 dropped the cost by nearly a grand food for thought :)
 
 They also sell a single-ethernet-port version of the phone for $10 
 less if you
 have enough ethernet sockets.
 
 Cheers,
 Gavin.




 I got an Adtran 600 with 12 X FXO and 12 X FXS cards for $495 from 
 Penny Doyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the strength of the pound, that 
 would practically be free to you!
 
  
 
 Chris Mason




 Date: Fri,  8 Apr 2005 17:42:56 +0200
 
 Maybe following options:
 
 1-) Get another channel bank

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

2005-04-05 Thread Sean Kennedy
Damon Estep wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Sean Kennedy
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:40 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

Hi all,
Quick question regarding channel banks, I managed to confuse 
myself ( monday...daylight saving time...no coffee ).

If I have 10 copper wires coming in from the phone company, 
and I want to get a channel bank that will turn those into a 
t1 to feed into an * box with appropriate hardware, do I want 
an FXS or FXO channel bank?

While I'm at it:  Are there specific features I should be 
looking for?  
Is there a specific company everyone's had good luck with?  
Any recommendations on this or otherwise?

Thank you.
Sean
   


I am assuming you are in the USA, correct me if incorrect.
Correct.
You want to call your telco and see what the cost of a PRI (T1) is to
replace those 10 lines. You have 10 analog lines should be at the point
where it is about a break even, if not call a competitive carrier.
 

Not in my area.  I have one provider who is brave enough to ATM a t1 out 
to my location.  Everybody else won't touch us.  Currently, we have what 
our vendor is calling a burstable t1.  I don't know if this is a common 
term or not, but bassically it means voice and data share the t1, voice 
eating into the bandwidth as needed.  The t1 is actually terminated into 
an Adtran 616 which I am currently researching to see if it can feed out 
a t1 feed instead of the 10 copper lines.  But I digress.

You do not want to use a channel bank to convert analog to digitial,
even if it could be done you are putting bandaids on a huge wound.
 

Agreed.  However, given my options
You will get a lot of features with the PRI you can not get on analog,
not to mention it will work, what you are talking about doing makes no
sense from a practical standpoint.
 

Well, except it's probably the best solution when you consider 
cost/complexity. 

Do it right, get a PRI and a single PRI digium card (or another PRI
terminating device like a T1 chabbel bank)/
 

Normally, I'd agree with you.  However, this situation is different 
given the line costs.

Sean
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

2005-04-05 Thread Alexander Lopez
 You may be in luck!!!

 The Adtan 600 line does have a DSX-1 module available. (you gotta love
Adtran!!)

http://www.adtran.com/static/docs/64200612L28.pdf

Now all you need are a buch of IP phones and your rocking

Trash the CB plan go Digital

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean
Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:47 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

Damon Estep wrote:

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean 
Kennedy
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:40 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

Hi all,

Quick question regarding channel banks, I managed to confuse myself ( 
monday...daylight saving time...no coffee ).

If I have 10 copper wires coming in from the phone company, and I want

to get a channel bank that will turn those into a
t1 to feed into an * box with appropriate hardware, do I want an FXS 
or FXO channel bank?

While I'm at it:  Are there specific features I should be looking for?
Is there a specific company everyone's had good luck with?  
Any recommendations on this or otherwise?

Thank you.

Sean




I am assuming you are in the USA, correct me if incorrect.

Correct.

You want to call your telco and see what the cost of a PRI (T1) is to 
replace those 10 lines. You have 10 analog lines should be at the point

where it is about a break even, if not call a competitive carrier.
  

Not in my area.  I have one provider who is brave enough to ATM a t1 out
to my location.  Everybody else won't touch us.  Currently, we have what
our vendor is calling a burstable t1.  I don't know if this is a common
term or not, but bassically it means voice and data share the t1, voice
eating into the bandwidth as needed.  The t1 is actually terminated into
an Adtran 616 which I am currently researching to see if it can feed out
a t1 feed instead of the 10 copper lines.  But I digress.

You do not want to use a channel bank to convert analog to digitial, 
even if it could be done you are putting bandaids on a huge wound.
  

Agreed.  However, given my options

You will get a lot of features with the PRI you can not get on analog, 
not to mention it will work, what you are talking about doing makes no 
sense from a practical standpoint.
  

Well, except it's probably the best solution when you consider
cost/complexity. 

Do it right, get a PRI and a single PRI digium card (or another PRI 
terminating device like a T1 chabbel bank)/
  

Normally, I'd agree with you.  However, this situation is different
given the line costs.


Sean
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[Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

2005-04-04 Thread Sean Kennedy
Hi all,
Quick question regarding channel banks, I managed to confuse myself ( 
monday...daylight saving time...no coffee ).

If I have 10 copper wires coming in from the phone company, and I want 
to get a channel bank that will turn those into a t1 to feed into an * 
box with appropriate hardware, do I want an FXS or FXO channel bank?

While I'm at it:  Are there specific features I should be looking for?  
Is there a specific company everyone's had good luck with?  Any 
recommendations on this or otherwise?

Thank you.
Sean
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

2005-04-04 Thread Alexander Lopez
Daylight Saving Time confused me as well!!!

I'll make it simple:

FXO ports connect to a phone company line, can be referred to as
Office

FXS ports connect to a phone device, can be referred to as Station


What kind of features do you want in a channel bank? Not many!!  Good
channel banks are pretty simple devices. I prefer and recommend an
Adtran 750. It has modules that you can change between FXS and FXO. I
would look on EBAY for one with 3 FXO cards and 3 FXS cards, that will
give you 12 Office lines and the ability to connect 12 analog devices to
it as well.

 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean
Kennedy
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:40 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

Hi all,

Quick question regarding channel banks, I managed to confuse myself ( 
monday...daylight saving time...no coffee ).

If I have 10 copper wires coming in from the phone company, and I want 
to get a channel bank that will turn those into a t1 to feed into an * 
box with appropriate hardware, do I want an FXS or FXO channel bank?

While I'm at it:  Are there specific features I should be looking for?  
Is there a specific company everyone's had good luck with?  Any 
recommendations on this or otherwise?

Thank you.

Sean
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On April 4, 2005 06:40 pm, Sean Kennedy wrote:
 If I have 10 copper wires coming in from the phone company, and I want
 to get a channel bank that will turn those into a t1 to feed into an *
 box with appropriate hardware, do I want an FXS or FXO channel bank?

you want an FXO channel bank, or at least a channel bank with 10 FXO channels, 
since you'll be wiring it up to the telco.

 While I'm at it:  Are there specific features I should be looking for?
 Is there a specific company everyone's had good luck with?  Any
 recommendations on this or otherwise?

You want CPD (calling party disconnect, also know as far end disconnection, 
disconnect supervision, etc.).  On FXS it doesn't matter but on FXO it's a 
critical feature IMO.  Carrier Access ABI and ABII do not have this feature.  
CAC's Adit600 does.   I don't know about the others.

-A.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

2005-04-04 Thread Damon Estep
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sean Kennedy
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:40 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question
 
 Hi all,
 
 Quick question regarding channel banks, I managed to confuse 
 myself ( monday...daylight saving time...no coffee ).
 
 If I have 10 copper wires coming in from the phone company, 
 and I want to get a channel bank that will turn those into a 
 t1 to feed into an * box with appropriate hardware, do I want 
 an FXS or FXO channel bank?
 
 While I'm at it:  Are there specific features I should be 
 looking for?  
 Is there a specific company everyone's had good luck with?  
 Any recommendations on this or otherwise?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Sean


I am assuming you are in the USA, correct me if incorrect.

You want to call your telco and see what the cost of a PRI (T1) is to
replace those 10 lines. You have 10 analog lines should be at the point
where it is about a break even, if not call a competitive carrier.

You do not want to use a channel bank to convert analog to digitial,
even if it could be done you are putting bandaids on a huge wound.

You will get a lot of features with the PRI you can not get on analog,
not to mention it will work, what you are talking about doing makes no
sense from a practical standpoint.

Do it right, get a PRI and a single PRI digium card (or another PRI
terminating device like a T1 chabbel bank)/
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

2005-04-04 Thread Ariel Batista


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Kennedy
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 6:40 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank question

Hi all,

Quick question regarding channel banks, I managed to confuse myself ( 
monday...daylight saving time...no coffee ).

If I have 10 copper wires coming in from the phone company, and I want 
to get a channel bank that will turn those into a t1 to feed into an * 
box with appropriate hardware, do I want an FXS or FXO channel bank?

You need a channel bank that has at least 10 or 12 FXO ports.  I recommend
an Adtran 750 or 850.  You can get them on EBay for around $ 400 to 500. But
most are pre-configured with FXS. You will need to either switch some of
those card out.  Then you just put in a T110p card into the asterisk.  Also
if you get this C/B with 12 FXO you can have the other 12 with FXS for
normal analog extensions.


While I'm at it:  Are there specific features I should be looking for?  
Is there a specific company everyone's had good luck with?  Any 
recommendations on this or otherwise?

Thank you.

Sean
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[Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Echo

2005-01-29 Thread Matt Schulte

We are a voip terminating company, we're using Channelbank with FXS
modules, Rhino, CAC, etc.. What we're wondering is, is how to would you
echo cancel a channelbank. Of course we're realizing that cancel'ing on
the T1 (on Ast) does no good (we think?) because the analog conversion
is at the channelbank. Suggestions? Lowering the gain helps but we're
looking for a real solution to this. Thanks.

PSTN? -- VOIP Network -- Asterisk -(T1)- channel bank --
analog
  ^echo heard
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Echo

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Matt Schulte wrote:

 We are a voip terminating company, we're using Channelbank with FXS
 modules, Rhino, CAC, etc.. What we're wondering is, is how to would you
 echo cancel a channelbank. Of course we're realizing that cancel'ing on
 the T1 (on Ast) does no good (we think?) because the analog conversion
 is at the channelbank. Suggestions? Lowering the gain helps but we're
 looking for a real solution to this. Thanks.
 
 PSTN? -- VOIP Network -- Asterisk -(T1)- channel bank --
 analog
   ^echo heard


If you hear the echo at the marked analog endpoint then it is almost
certainly far end echo. This is nearly almost present when calling an
analog phone at the far end. On short links without VoIP the reflected
energy will sound like a nice sidetone. For longer links (e.g. 
international) and VoIP you need an echo canceler in the call path. 

Since you have an analog phone attached to an endpoint there may be an 
echo heared from the pstn as well. 

Both these echos can be reduced by adding an echo canceler that has its 
tail (i.e. subtracts the right amount of the slightly delayed transmitted 
signal from the received signal) into both directions. Asterisk can act as 
such an echo canceler. Asterisk may not be the very best echo canceler 
available, but it may be good enough. Try it and see.

Peter


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Echo

2005-01-29 Thread Matt Schulte
Agh, what I meant was the echo is heard from the PSTN side. It seems
echo canceling on the T1 (going to channelbank) does nothing, I'm
assuming because the T1 is digital and the channelbank is the
traversal from digital to analog.


-Original Message-
From: Peter Svensson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:49 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Echo


On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Matt Schulte wrote:

 We are a voip terminating company, we're using Channelbank with FXS 
 modules, Rhino, CAC, etc.. What we're wondering is, is how to would 
 you echo cancel a channelbank. Of course we're realizing that 
 cancel'ing on the T1 (on Ast) does no good (we think?) because the 
 analog conversion is at the channelbank. Suggestions? Lowering the 
 gain helps but we're looking for a real solution to this. Thanks.
 
 PSTN? -- VOIP Network -- Asterisk -(T1)- channel bank -- 
 analog
   ^echo heard


If you hear the echo at the marked analog endpoint then it is almost
certainly far end echo. This is nearly almost present when calling an
analog phone at the far end. On short links without VoIP the reflected
energy will sound like a nice sidetone. For longer links (e.g. 
international) and VoIP you need an echo canceler in the call path. 

Since you have an analog phone attached to an endpoint there may be an 
echo heared from the pstn as well. 

Both these echos can be reduced by adding an echo canceler that has its 
tail (i.e. subtracts the right amount of the slightly delayed
transmitted 
signal from the received signal) into both directions. Asterisk can act
as 
such an echo canceler. Asterisk may not be the very best echo canceler 
available, but it may be good enough. Try it and see.

Peter


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Echo

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Svensson
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Matt Schulte wrote:

 Agh, what I meant was the echo is heard from the PSTN side. It seems
 echo canceling on the T1 (going to channelbank) does nothing, I'm
 assuming because the T1 is digital and the channelbank is the
 traversal from digital to analog.

Still, echo cancelling on the T1 should solve the problem since it is on 
the digital path from the echo source (the hybrids on the channel bank and 
on the phone) to the pstn.

Perhaps your channel bank is set to the wrong impedance compared to the
hybrid in the phone? That can cause an echo more powerful than the cho
canceler is designed to handle.

You need to set echocancelwhenbridged=yes in the zapata.conf for 
asterisk to even attempt to cancel echo between two digital links.

Peter


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Echo

2005-01-29 Thread Lyle Giese
A T1 is a two way transmission media.  There is sound going both ways over a
'4 wire' interface.  4-wire means that Xmitt is seperate from Recv.  In the
channel bank there is a 4 wire to 2 wire conversion.  It's this junction
that introduces echo as some of the 4 wire recv gets feed back into the 4
wire xmitt direction.Echo cancelling has to take place in the 4 wire
media path.

Lyle

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Echo


Agh, what I meant was the echo is heard from the PSTN side. It seems
echo canceling on the T1 (going to channelbank) does nothing, I'm
assuming because the T1 is digital and the channelbank is the
traversal from digital to analog.


-Original Message-
From: Peter Svensson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:49 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Echo


On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Matt Schulte wrote:

 We are a voip terminating company, we're using Channelbank with FXS
 modules, Rhino, CAC, etc.. What we're wondering is, is how to would
 you echo cancel a channelbank. Of course we're realizing that
 cancel'ing on the T1 (on Ast) does no good (we think?) because the
 analog conversion is at the channelbank. Suggestions? Lowering the
 gain helps but we're looking for a real solution to this. Thanks.

 PSTN? -- VOIP Network -- Asterisk -(T1)- channel bank -- 
 analog
   ^echo heard


If you hear the echo at the marked analog endpoint then it is almost
certainly far end echo. This is nearly almost present when calling an
analog phone at the far end. On short links without VoIP the reflected
energy will sound like a nice sidetone. For longer links (e.g.
international) and VoIP you need an echo canceler in the call path.

Since you have an analog phone attached to an endpoint there may be an
echo heared from the pstn as well.

Both these echos can be reduced by adding an echo canceler that has its
tail (i.e. subtracts the right amount of the slightly delayed
transmitted
signal from the received signal) into both directions. Asterisk can act
as
such an echo canceler. Asterisk may not be the very best echo canceler
available, but it may be good enough. Try it and see.

Peter


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Echo

2005-01-29 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On January 29, 2005 12:31 pm, Matt Schulte wrote:
 We are a voip terminating company, we're using Channelbank with FXS
 modules, Rhino, CAC, etc.. What we're wondering is, is how to would you
 echo cancel a channelbank. Of course we're realizing that cancel'ing on
 the T1 (on Ast) does no good (we think?) because the analog conversion
 is at the channelbank. Suggestions? Lowering the gain helps but we're
 looking for a real solution to this. Thanks.

 PSTN? -- VOIP Network -- Asterisk -(T1)- channel bank --
 analog
   ^echo heard

If the echo is being heard on the far side then you are generating it at your 
hybrid.  Your diagram is not clear since it was wrapped.

I have used the Adit600 and Access Bank 1s with great success -- they do not 
generate echo (i.e. nobody we've called has heard echo) -- we do, however, 
hear echo from time to time, even on our PRI.  Asterisk's echo cancellation 
is either getting disabled accidentally or it is not working worth a 
damn.  :-(

You can use Tellabs echo cancellation units on T1 and PRI -- these are 
carrier-grade hardware echo cancellers.  I haven't any experience with them 
yet (waiting for mine to arrive).

-A.
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[Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank for T100P or E100P Digium Cards

2004-10-12 Thread Carlos Clemares
Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a compatible channel bank to use it with T100P/E100P
digium cards and asterisk. Who has good experience with a channel bank
compatible with this cards? I would like to know brand and model of it,
I'm not looking for a fancy product, just a channel bank that allow me
to use it as multiplexer between analog lines and E1/T1 digium cards.

Thanks in advance,

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank for T100P or E100P Digium Cards

2004-10-12 Thread Garrett Smith
Carrier Access Corp ABI's

Contact me off-list for pricing information.

Garrett

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank for T100P or E100P Digium Cards

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a compatible channel bank to use it with T100P/E100P
digium cards and asterisk. Who has good experience with a channel bank
compatible with this cards? I would like to know brand and model of it,
I'm not looking for a fancy product, just a channel bank that allow me
to use it as multiplexer between analog lines and E1/T1 digium cards.

Thanks in advance,

-- 
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Director
58 (0) 212 740-53-12/17
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank for T100P or E100P Digium Cards

2004-10-12 Thread Ariel's Hotmail
Carlos Clemares wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I'm looking for a compatible channel bank to use it with T100P/E100P
 digium cards and asterisk. Who has good experience with a channel bank
 compatible with this cards? I would like to know brand and model of
 it, I'm not looking for a fancy product, just a channel bank that
 allow me to use it as multiplexer between analog lines and E1/T1
 digium cards.

I have used Adtran 750/850 without any problems. But I have only used T1
settings. I have also setup and worked with CAC Channel banks Adit 600 is a
good choice as well.

The adtran 750 with 24 ports fxs will go around $ 500.00 on ebay.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank for T100P or E100P Digium Cards

2004-10-12 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 12 October 2004 17:16, Garrett Smith wrote:
 Carrier Access Corp ABI's

You do *not* want ABIs or ABIIs if you're looking for FXO ports.

I'm partial to the Carrier Access Adit600 myself.  You can get them fairly 
cheaply off ebay and they're a hardware vendor that doesn't hold contempt for 
the used-parts market.  :-)

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank for T100P or E100P Digium Cards

2004-10-12 Thread Steve Edwards
The adtran 750 with 24 ports fxs will go around $ 500.00 on ebay.
Recent TA 750 ebay purchases -- not by me :)
FXO FXS $$$.$$
--- --- --
0   12  127.50
0   8   152.50
0   24  202.50
0   24  203.50
0   24  203.50
0   24  203.50
0   24  227.50
0   24  230.00
4   16  237.50
0   24  270.00
0   0   271.50
4   20  280.00
0   24  333.00
0   12  355.00
0   16  399.00
0   20  425.00
If you are patient and don't get emotionally involved, $225 is a good buy.
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Ariel's Hotmail wrote:
Carlos Clemares wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a compatible channel bank to use it with T100P/E100P
digium cards and asterisk. Who has good experience with a channel bank
compatible with this cards? I would like to know brand and model of
it, I'm not looking for a fancy product, just a channel bank that
allow me to use it as multiplexer between analog lines and E1/T1
digium cards.
I have used Adtran 750/850 without any problems. But I have only used T1
settings. I have also setup and worked with CAC Channel banks Adit 600 is a
good choice as well.
The adtran 750 with 24 ports fxs will go around $ 500.00 on ebay.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank for T100P or E100P Digium Cards

2004-10-12 Thread John Baker
The trick is to make sure you've got the fxo/fxs cards that you need.
John
Steve Edwards wrote:
The adtran 750 with 24 ports fxs will go around $ 500.00 on ebay.

Recent TA 750 ebay purchases -- not by me :)
FXOFXS$$$.$$
--------
012127.50
08152.50
024202.50
024203.50
024203.50
024203.50
024227.50
024230.00
416237.50
024270.00
00271.50
420280.00
024333.00
012355.00
016399.00
020425.00
If you are patient and don't get emotionally involved, $225 is a good buy.
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Ariel's Hotmail wrote:
Carlos Clemares wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a compatible channel bank to use it with T100P/E100P
digium cards and asterisk. Who has good experience with a channel bank
compatible with this cards? I would like to know brand and model of
it, I'm not looking for a fancy product, just a channel bank that
allow me to use it as multiplexer between analog lines and E1/T1
digium cards.

I have used Adtran 750/850 without any problems. But I have only used T1
settings. I have also setup and worked with CAC Channel banks Adit 600 
is a
good choice as well.

The adtran 750 with 24 ports fxs will go around $ 500.00 on ebay.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank for asterisk

2004-08-18 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 07:14, Eran Gal wrote:
 Does anyone know which channel banks work well with asterisk.

I've used the Carrier Access Access Bank I and the Carrier Access Adit600.  I 
*far* prefer the Adit600, even though it has an oddball form factor.  (It's 
about 2U tall but only about 6 or 7 inches wide instead of 19).  It can 
handle two T1s and is modular so you can have any combination of FXS and FXO 
ports (in groups of 8).

The Access Bank I and II (II is the 2-T1 version of the ABI) work fine as FXS 
channel banks, but their FXO modules do *not* detect far-end disconnect which 
makes them practically useless for terminating FXO.

I believe others have used the Adtran TA750 or something along those lines, 
but I'll let them comment, as I've never seen one.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank

2004-08-13 Thread Daniel Bichara
You can use VoiceTronix boards.
Joe Pukepail wrote:
Since it doesn't look like any of the FXS cards supported by asterisk
support analog DID trunks, would it work if I used a T100P connected
to an adtran channel bank (atlas 550?) with an FXS card installed?
Anyone ever try this configuration?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank

2004-08-13 Thread Mitchel Constantin
Yes you can do it, I've done it with a T100P and an Adtran 612, if you
need specific help let me know, look up adtran on the wiki for a
similar example.

Mitchel

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:16:20 -0300, Daniel Bichara
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 You can use VoiceTronix boards.
 
 
 
 
 Joe Pukepail wrote:
 
 Since it doesn't look like any of the FXS cards supported by asterisk
 support analog DID trunks, would it work if I used a T100P connected
 to an adtran channel bank (atlas 550?) with an FXS card installed?
 
 Anyone ever try this configuration?
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[Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank

2004-08-04 Thread Joe Pukepail
Since it doesn't look like any of the FXS cards supported by asterisk
support analog DID trunks, would it work if I used a T100P connected
to an adtran channel bank (atlas 550?) with an FXS card installed?

Anyone ever try this configuration?
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[Asterisk-Users] Channel bank or IAD with message light capability?

2004-07-06 Thread Jay Hennigan
I have a possible asterisk application in a hotel/motel situation, where
they have several analog phones with message-waiting lights running on an
old Mitel PBX.

These are neon lights that are illuminated by increasing the on-hook
voltage from a nominal 48 to 90 volts DC.

Is there on the market either an internet access device or channel bank
that can accommodate these phones and control the message waiting indicator
from asterisk?

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[Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Newbie Problem

2004-07-02 Thread David Morillo
Hi all
I'm trying to configure a TE410P in Europe with three
E1s and a T1 channel bank (already bought in the US) to receive and make
calls through *. I managed to get the E1s to work, but I'm having
trouble with the channel bank (a Rhino). I have tried the bank in spans
1 and 4 changing jumpers in the card (always with no PRI connected, as I
have no PRI where I'm testing now, so I'm trying to make the bank work
alone). I've tried AutoT1 and also configuring it myself, as ESF and
D4, with B8ZS and AMI, changing ZAPTEL and ZAPATA. When I plug the
channel bank, it goes ok, framing and signalling lighting green, but
after a few seconds, signalling starts blinking, alarm lights red, with
display saying Loss of carrier - (LOS - no T1), Asterisk and zttool
detecting yellow alarm. 
The upper right corner of the displays says WINK ESF.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!

ZAPTEL.CONF:
span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,yellow 
span=2,2,0,ccs,hdb3,yellow #2,2,0
span=3,3,0,ccs,hdb3,yellow #3,3,0
span=4,0,0,esf,b8zs
bchan=1-15,17-31
bchan=32-46,48-62
bchan=63-77,79-93
dchan=16,47,78
fxoks=94-117
loadzone=us #es
defaultzone=us #es

ZAPATA.CONF
[channels]
switchtype=euroisdn
;pridialplan=unknown
signalling=pri_cpe
context=default
group=1
channel = 1-15,17-31
channel = 32-46,48-62
channel = 63-77,79-93

signalling=fxo_ks
context=Internas
group=2
channel=94-117

I have also tried things like:
 
;language=es;context=default;switchtype=euroisdn;rxwink=300;usecallerid=
yes;hidecallerid=no;callwaiting=yes;usecallingpres=yes;callwaitingcaller
id=yes;threewaycalling=yes;transfer=yes;cancallforward=yes;callreturn=ye
s;echocancel=no;echocancelwhenbridged=yes;rxgain=0.0;txgain=0.0

ZTTOOL says:
Zaptel Configuration
==
SPAN 1: CCS/HDB3 Build-out: 0 db (CSU)/0-133 feet (DSX-1)
SPAN 2: CCS/HDB3 Build-out: 0 db (CSU)/0-133 feet (DSX-1)
SPAN 3: CCS/HDB3 Build-out: 0 db (CSU)/0-133 feet (DSX-1)
SPAN 4: ESF/B8ZS Build-out: 0 db (CSU)/0-133 feet (DSX-1)

Channel map:

Channel 01: Individual Clear channel (Default) (Slaves: 01)
...
Channel 15: Individual Clear channel (Default) (Slaves: 15)
Channel 16: D-channel (Default) (Slaves: 16)
Channel 17: Individual Clear channel (Default) (Slaves: 17)
...
Channel 92: Individual Clear channel (Default) (Slaves: 92)
Channel 93: Individual Clear channel (Default) (Slaves: 93)
Channel 94: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 94)
Channel 95: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 95)
...
Channel 116: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 116)
Channel 117: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 117)
117 channels configured.
TE410P: Span 1 configures for CCS/HDB3
SPAN 1: Primary Sync Source
TE410P: Span 2 configures for CCS/HDB3
TE410P: Span 3 configures for CCS/HDB3
TE410P: Span 4 configures for ESF/B8ZS



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable

2004-06-24 Thread Bonzo Armstrong
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 08:24:03PM -0700, Bonzo Armstrong wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 03:04:52PM -0500, Nik Martin wrote:
  
  Try this if possible.  Connect the channel bank to * via the 400' cable, but
  in the same room as the * box, with all the cable coiled on the floor.

Next best thing:  I took a coil of 200' of cable and used it to connect
the working channel bank that's 200' away to its patch bay.  Lo and
behold, same problem.  I also patched this rig into the port that's
supposed to be configured with an LBO of 399'+ and I still get the
same problem.

I believe this rules out location and leaves the length of the cable as
the culprit.  This is all using cat6 cable, fwiw.  I'm really beginning
to suspect the TE405P isn't cranking up the LBO like it's supposed to.
I've asked Digium for some insight and hope to hear back from them today.

Anyone have any recommendations for good T1 extenders?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable

2004-06-24 Thread Bonzo Armstrong
On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 09:34:02AM -0400, Timothy R. McKee wrote:
 Looking back, I see you are running B8ZS/ESF.  I ran into similar problems
 with a 100' run to a CAC AB-II.  As soon as I switched to AMI/D4(SF) all my
 problems went away. 

Did I say that?  I've actually been running AMI/D4 to my other channel
banks, and right now I'm running AMI/D4 the channel bank that's giving
me trouble as well.  I tried B8ZS/ESF a few times, but that didn't help
so I switched it back.

(:.:)
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable

2004-06-24 Thread Jorge Mendoza
Probably an impedance problem. PCM line signals are designed to be 
transmitted over a *twisted telephone cable* having 120 ohms at 1 MHz. 
I'm not sure that cat6 cable fulfil this requirement.
Maybe cat3.

Jorge
Bonzo Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 08:24:03PM -0700, Bonzo Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 03:04:52PM -0500, Nik Martin wrote:
Try this if possible.  Connect the channel bank to * via the 400' cable, but
in the same room as the * box, with all the cable coiled on the floor.

Next best thing:  I took a coil of 200' of cable and used it to connect
the working channel bank that's 200' away to its patch bay.  Lo and
behold, same problem.  I also patched this rig into the port that's
supposed to be configured with an LBO of 399'+ and I still get the
same problem.
I believe this rules out location and leaves the length of the cable as
the culprit.  This is all using cat6 cable, fwiw.  I'm really beginning
to suspect the TE405P isn't cranking up the LBO like it's supposed to.
I've asked Digium for some insight and hope to hear back from them today.
Anyone have any recommendations for good T1 extenders?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable

2004-06-24 Thread Nik Martin

Bonzo Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 08:24:03PM -0700, Bonzo Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 03:04:52PM -0500, Nik Martin wrote:
Try this if possible.  Connect the channel bank to * via the 400' cable, but
in the same room as the * box, with all the cable coiled on the floor.

Next best thing:  I took a coil of 200' of cable and used it to connect
the working channel bank that's 200' away to its patch bay.  Lo and
behold, same problem.  I also patched this rig into the port that's
supposed to be configured with an LBO of 399'+ and I still get the
same problem.
I believe this rules out location and leaves the length of the cable as
the culprit.  This is all using cat6 cable, fwiw.  I'm really beginning
to suspect the TE405P isn't cranking up the LBO like it's supposed to.
I've asked Digium for some insight and hope to hear back from them today.
Looks like you're doing the right thing in regards to troubleshooting, 
only a line analyzer will tell you the whole story.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable

2004-06-23 Thread Bonzo Armstrong
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 03:04:52PM -0500, Nik Martin wrote:
 
 Nah, a true analyzer will detect framing errors do loopback echo tests, etc.

After much pfutzing around and talking with CAC's tech support, I'm
finally coming around to your original suggestion and am in the process
of finding someone to rent/loan me an analyzer or come out and sniff
the line for me.

My current suspicion (which I'll need an analyzer to confirm or refute) is
that the LBO parameter in zaptel.conf is not actually having an effect.
I have to think that if this was the case for this card in general,
someone else would have run into it before now and would have mentioned
it, but I don't see any references to any such problems in the archives.
But I am curious whether there are people out there successfully driving
their TE405P over more than 400' of cable.

 Try this if possible.  Connect the channel bank to * via the 400' cable, but
 in the same room as the * box, with all the cable coiled on the floor.

I haven't tried this yet as I don't have a 400' cable handy.  But it
just now occurred to me that I have a box at home that might have 400'
left in it so I may be able to try it tomorrow.  I can confirm that I
can talk to at least two of my three access banks with no problem at
all if they're plugged in at 200'.

 ZTTool
 also has a loopback test if I'm not mistaken.  It may give you some insight.

Looping the line up doesn't tell me much.  Neither does plugging a
loopback plug in at either end of the line.  No matter how I loop it,
neither end shows alarms.  Very odd.  Hopefully I'll be able to find
an analyzer tomorrow.
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[Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable

2004-06-21 Thread Bonzo Armstrong
I've got a Digium TE405P feeding three Carrier Access AB-II units located
in three separate suites of the complex my company resides in.  I've had
one AB-II connected over about 15' of cable and running for several
weeks now, and it seems to be perfectly happy.

Over the weekend, I added two more AB-IIs, one in each of the other two
suites.  The second unit is about 150 cable feet away from the switch
and it syncs up just fine, but the third is 400 cable feet away and is
having problems with its T1.  The dip switches on all three units are
set the same, and with the exception of the LBO they're all configured
the same in zaptel.conf, yet the furthest AB-II is showing errors.

I've swapped AB-IIs between positions to no effect;  whichever unit
is in the furthest suite cannot fully sync.  There are at least two
cables available in each segment of the run between the far AB-II and
the switch (due to the way our complex is wired, the run is a total of
three in-wall cables and four patch cables), and I have tried them all.
I have also tried plugging into other ports on the TE405P.  I've tried
changing the signalling and the framing.  I've tried changing the LBO
value to everything from 0 to 4.  Through all this, the constant appears
to be that any AB-II placed 400' away from the switch will not behave.

When initially connected, the led next to the T1 jack on the AB-II blinks
yellow a few times, then turns green for at most a quarter second and
then to solid yellow where it stays.  The other status led on the AB-II
for the span stays a solid green.  Picking up a phone connected to this
unit gets me a very noisy dialtone.  If I dial a single digit to get
rid of the dialtone, I hear a pretty steady buzzing noise where there
should be silence.

The curious thing here is that if I use this phone to dial another
extension, 1) there is no problem dialing and 2) if I use a station that's
working properly to listen to the voicemail message, I hear a perfectly
clear signal with just a hint of that same buzzing in the background.

My zaptel.conf looks like this:

span=1,1,0,d4,ami
span=2,1,0,d4,ami
span=3,1,4,d4,ami
fxoks=1-16
fxoks=17-24
fxoks=25-48
fxoks=49-72

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing or what else I might try?  Thanks
in advance.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable

2004-06-21 Thread Nik Martin

Do you have access to a T-1 analyzer?  You more than likely have a 'dirty'
T-1 line that is out of spec based on the length of the run.

Nik

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable


I've got a Digium TE405P feeding three Carrier Access AB-II units located in
three separate suites of the complex my company resides in.  I've had one
AB-II connected over about 15' of cable and running for several weeks now,
and it seems to be perfectly happy.

Over the weekend, I added two more AB-IIs, one in each of the other two
suites.  The second unit is about 150 cable feet away from the switch and it
syncs up just fine, but the third is 400 cable feet away and is having
problems with its T1.  The dip switches on all three units are set the same,
and with the exception of the LBO they're all configured the same in
zaptel.conf, yet the furthest AB-II is showing errors.

I've swapped AB-IIs between positions to no effect;  whichever unit is in
the furthest suite cannot fully sync.  There are at least two cables
available in each segment of the run between the far AB-II and the switch
(due to the way our complex is wired, the run is a total of three in-wall
cables and four patch cables), and I have tried them all. I have also tried
plugging into other ports on the TE405P.  I've tried changing the signalling
and the framing.  I've tried changing the LBO value to everything from 0 to
4.  Through all this, the constant appears to be that any AB-II placed 400'
away from the switch will not behave.

When initially connected, the led next to the T1 jack on the AB-II blinks
yellow a few times, then turns green for at most a quarter second and then
to solid yellow where it stays.  The other status led on the AB-II for the
span stays a solid green.  Picking up a phone connected to this unit gets me
a very noisy dialtone.  If I dial a single digit to get rid of the dialtone,
I hear a pretty steady buzzing noise where there should be silence.

The curious thing here is that if I use this phone to dial another
extension, 1) there is no problem dialing and 2) if I use a station that's
working properly to listen to the voicemail message, I hear a perfectly
clear signal with just a hint of that same buzzing in the background.

My zaptel.conf looks like this:

span=1,1,0,d4,ami
span=2,1,0,d4,ami
span=3,1,4,d4,ami
fxoks=1-16
fxoks=17-24
fxoks=25-48
fxoks=49-72

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing or what else I might try?  Thanks in
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable

2004-06-21 Thread Bonzo Armstrong
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 12:17:38PM -0500, Nik Martin wrote:
 
 Do you have access to a T-1 analyzer?  You more than likely have a 'dirty'
 T-1 line that is out of spec based on the length of the run.

Sadly, none that I'm aware of, but I'll ask around.  I could probably
find a decent scope to put on the line, but I'm not sure what I'd be
looking for.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel bank problem via long cable

2004-06-21 Thread Nik Martin



On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 12:17:38PM -0500, Nik Martin wrote:
 
 Do you have access to a T-1 analyzer?  You more than likely have a 
 'dirty' T-1 line that is out of spec based on the length of the run.

Sadly, none that I'm aware of, but I'll ask around.  I could probably find a
decent scope to put on the line, but I'm not sure what I'd be looking for.

Nah, a true analyzer will detect framing errors do loopback echo tests, etc.
Try this if possible.  Connect the channel bank to * via the 400' cable, but
in the same room as the * box, with all the cable coiled on the floor.  Does
it work?  If yes, than you need better cable shielding, etc. on the cable
run.  If not, replace the 400' with say, 300' and see if it works.  ZTTool
also has a loopback test if I'm not mistaken.  It may give you some insight.

Nik

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[Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Frustrations

2004-06-20 Thread George Pajari
I'm trying to get a Carrier Access Corp. Channel Bank I working with a
Digium T100P without success.

What is stranger is that the status lights on the channel bank and T100P
seem to change almost each time I power cycle the channel bank or reset the
T100P.

The channel bank has three status lights: T1, Framing, Status. T1 is green,
Status is yellow, and Framing is usually red but sometime green.

The T100P is sometimes red, sometimes green.

The zaptel configuration is:
span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs

The channel bank settings are:
Clock source: On or Off, seems not to make a difference
Framing: ESF
Line Code: B8ZS
CSU: On or Off, seems not to make a difference

Once I managed to get all three status lights on the channel bank green but
the T100P was red.

On the few cases the T100P gives a green status, zttool shows the RxB bits
randomly flipping one and off.

I have tried different T100P cards in different servers so that has been
eliminated as a cause.

I have made up several T1 loopback cables so I don't think it is a flaky
cable.

The remaining possibilities are:
 a) a bad channel bank (although it passes the self test)
 b) a bad zaptel configuration

After several hours of trying different settings and DIP switches I am
increasingly frustrated in trying to determine the cause of the problem. It
has been especially difficult since power cycling the channel bank can
result in a change to the status lights without any change to the settings
or configuration.

Any suggestions on what might be causing the problem or what to try next?
We're trying to go live this week and this problem is critical.

Thanks for any help/suggestions

g.

P.S. - What, exactly, is the meaning of the second argument to the zaptel
span parameter (timing source) and how does it relate to the clock switch
on the channel bank as I have tried all four combinations without obvious
consistent affect?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Frustrations

2004-06-20 Thread Darren Nickerson
George,

We have this config working. Please give me a call (yeah, I'm at the office
too) and we can walk through your config together.

-Darren

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From: George Pajari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 5:51 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank Frustrations


 I'm trying to get a Carrier Access Corp. Channel Bank I working with a
 Digium T100P without success.

 What is stranger is that the status lights on the channel bank and T100P
 seem to change almost each time I power cycle the channel bank or reset
the
 T100P.

 The channel bank has three status lights: T1, Framing, Status. T1 is
green,
 Status is yellow, and Framing is usually red but sometime green.

 The T100P is sometimes red, sometimes green.

 The zaptel configuration is:
 span=1,0,0,esf,b8zs

 The channel bank settings are:
 Clock source: On or Off, seems not to make a difference
 Framing: ESF
 Line Code: B8ZS
 CSU: On or Off, seems not to make a difference

 Once I managed to get all three status lights on the channel bank green
but
 the T100P was red.

 On the few cases the T100P gives a green status, zttool shows the RxB bits
 randomly flipping one and off.

 I have tried different T100P cards in different servers so that has been
 eliminated as a cause.

 I have made up several T1 loopback cables so I don't think it is a flaky
 cable.

 The remaining possibilities are:
  a) a bad channel bank (although it passes the self test)
  b) a bad zaptel configuration

 After several hours of trying different settings and DIP switches I am
 increasingly frustrated in trying to determine the cause of the problem.
It
 has been especially difficult since power cycling the channel bank can
 result in a change to the status lights without any change to the settings
 or configuration.

 Any suggestions on what might be causing the problem or what to try next?
 We're trying to go live this week and this problem is critical.

 Thanks for any help/suggestions

 g.

 P.S. - What, exactly, is the meaning of the second argument to the zaptel
 span parameter (timing source) and how does it relate to the clock
switch
 on the channel bank as I have tried all four combinations without obvious
 consistent affect?

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[Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank - Vina T-1 Integrator

2004-05-02 Thread Brian D Heaton
Has anyone tried a Vina T-1 Integrator as a channel bank with Asterisk? 
They appear to be plentiful, but I want to make sure I'm not buying a
brick.  

THX/BDH


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank - New * install

2004-04-24 Thread Tom

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Steven Critchfield wrote:

...
 VoIP phones have the benefit of linear growth cost. A phone costs $X,
 and for the most part will cost $X no matter how many lines you roll
 out. So a new extension is just $X increase, and your system is just $X
 x N extensions to deploy. Also VoIP can be deployed pretty much
 anywhere.

 Analog has the benefit of cheaper phones, and what I consider a better
 service record. There isn't really a problem of what is and isn't
 supported, or supported to what extent. Draw backs are you can either
 deploy in multiples of 4 with the TDM400 or go T1 and deploy in
 multiples of 24. Either way, it makes the first step beyond the current
 block slightly expensive, but then the increment is a small amount till
 you fully deploy your current block.

 24 Budgetones would be ~$1800(assuming you find them for $75 each).
 24 analog ATT phones, $1720(assuming a channel bank from ebay at $500
 and $30 phones).

 So you can see where the 25th phone goes back to the VoIP phones as the
 25th phone on analog will run you another $1030 for the T1 port and
 channel bank.

  There are other factors too.

  VOIP phones will have useful diplays an additional buttons (transfer,
hold, etc.), plus usually have many call appearances.  In addition, VOIP
phones offload codec load off your * server, and come with an included
G.729a codec.  This might not be an issue for you if you use TDM in and
out, but if you have a VOIP gateway, VOIP phones start to look good.

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[Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank - New * install

2004-04-22 Thread Jon Brandon








I am looking at installing * as the PBX in a new office and have a few
questions that I hope someone can help me with. The installation will be small
at first with about 8 internal extensions, but will grow to 24 within a year or
so.



First is there any benefit to using VoIP
phones instead of installing a channel bank and analog business phones? 



If not, what are some good analog business phones that people have used?


How about channel banks, can I get some suggestions?



Thanks





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-Jon Brandon

VP of Technology

Monsoon

Add me to your contacts: http://www.monsoonretail.com/vcards/JonBrandon.vcf










Re: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank - New * install

2004-04-22 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 12:50, Jon Brandon wrote:
 I am looking at installing * as the PBX in a new office and have a few
 questions that I hope someone can help me with. The installation will
 be small at first with about 8 internal extensions, but will grow to
 24 within a year or so.
 
  
 First is there any benefit to using VoIP phones instead of installing
 a channel bank and analog business phones? 
 
  
 If not, what are some good analog business phones that people have
 used? 
 
 How about channel banks, can I get some suggestions?

Dude, drop the HTML, and remember why google exists.

VoIP phones have the benefit of linear growth cost. A phone costs $X,
and for the most part will cost $X no matter how many lines you roll
out. So a new extension is just $X increase, and your system is just $X
x N extensions to deploy. Also VoIP can be deployed pretty much
anywhere.

Analog has the benefit of cheaper phones, and what I consider a better
service record. There isn't really a problem of what is and isn't
supported, or supported to what extent. Draw backs are you can either
deploy in multiples of 4 with the TDM400 or go T1 and deploy in
multiples of 24. Either way, it makes the first step beyond the current
block slightly expensive, but then the increment is a small amount till
you fully deploy your current block.

24 Budgetones would be ~$1800(assuming you find them for $75 each).
24 analog ATT phones, $1720(assuming a channel bank from ebay at $500
and $30 phones).

So you can see where the 25th phone goes back to the VoIP phones as the
25th phone on analog will run you another $1030 for the T1 port and
channel bank.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank?

2004-04-07 Thread John Vogel

Four or five analog lines can be done with a single computer so no channel
bank is needed. If you need 6 or more than there is also the choice of using
two machines and IAX. 

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quote who=Ken
 Hello, I'm new to Asterisk and would like to know how you could have 4 
 to 6 incoming analog POTS lines connecting to the Asterisk server and 
 have 4 to 6 analog lines going out.(A T1 line is too costly). Would 2 
 channel banks be used?

A T1 channelbank has 24 channels, so only 1 is needed.

FXO channels (What you connect to the POTS lines) can be both inbound and
outbound.  If you are not using DID.  So, you just need to find out how many
concurrent calls you need to support.

If you are using analog DID lines, then those are inbound only, and require
FXS ports.  (You supply dialtone and battery, the carrier's switch picks up
your line and dials into your PBX.)

Now, there are multiple ways to get the analog lines into Asterisk...
   o use an external gateway...  POTS - SIP - Asterisk
   o wait until next month and get the FXO multiport cards from Digium
   o get a T1 card + channelbank

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank?

2004-04-07 Thread Robert Hajime Lanning
quote who=John Vogel

 Four or five analog lines can be done with a single computer so no channel
 bank is needed. If you need 6 or more than there is also the choice of using
 two machines and IAX.

Talk about port density issues.  So, if he really needs all 12 lines, then he
needs 3 PCs? (He probably doesn't need all 12.)

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