Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci 
Marilyn, mine is from Norte Grande and he was still married to the same
wife when he died at age 86. That's the trouble with Portuguese research,
so many with the same names it's just gets so crazy!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Marilyn Thompson  wrote:

> Mine are probably just the same name but different persons from the other
> end of the island
>
> Marilyn
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mine was married to Teresa Maria de Jesus...I descend from Joao de Sousa
>> Machado and Teresa's son, Joao Inacio de Sousa, b. 9-7-1736 in Norte
>> Grandemarried first time, 7-12-1762 to
>>
>> Maria Bernarda Poderosa,  and 2nd time to his son-in-laws sister, Joanna
>> Maciel Alvares.
>>
>>
>> Nancy Jean
>> --
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Marilyn Thompson 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 3:45:14 PM
>> *To:* Cheri Mello
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>> society and culture
>>
>> I am going to chime in also. I have two Joao de Souza Machado's in my
>> data base. What is the time period you are talking about?
>> Mine are father and son. The information I have is at the other end of
>> the island, Ribeira Seca and Topo. It maybe 2 others by the same name.
>> Joao deSouza Machado b abt 1765 Ribeira Seca m 22 Apr 1789 Topo to Maria
>> Antonia de  Azevedo b Topo ( I must not have this baptism yet)
>>son: Joao deSouza Machado b 12 Feb 1799 Topo m 17 Nov 1823 Topo to
>> Maria Delfina de Santo Antonio b 17 Feb 1801
>> and son: Manuel b 18 Nov 1791 Topo
>> The younger Joao deSouza Machado's brother is Manuel Joao Machado *(My
>> direct line)* B 12 Sep 1824 Topo m 24 Sep 1849 to Isabel Joaquina b 23
>> Jan 1828 Ribeira Seca
>>
>> Marilyn
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Victor Soares 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to
>>> Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f=en
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste <
>>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Oh dear
 --
 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
 Cheri Mello 
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
 *To:* Azores Genealogy

 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
 society and culture
 Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator.
 It says it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the
 ability to convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it
 can be converted to Word.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
 fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?


 Nancy
 --
 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
 Victor Soares 
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM

 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
 society and culture

 Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

 On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
 wrote:

 Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6
 children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de
 Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de
 Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I
 don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only
 recorded what I found while searching for my direct line.

 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
 fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
 soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
 line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


 Nancy Jean!


 --
 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
 Rosemarie Capodicci 
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Marilyn Thompson 
Mine are probably just the same name but different persons from the other
end of the island

Marilyn

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 3:51 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Mine was married to Teresa Maria de Jesus...I descend from Joao de Sousa
> Machado and Teresa's son, Joao Inacio de Sousa, b. 9-7-1736 in Norte
> Grandemarried first time, 7-12-1762 to
>
> Maria Bernarda Poderosa,  and 2nd time to his son-in-laws sister, Joanna
> Maciel Alvares.
>
>
> Nancy Jean
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Marilyn Thompson 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 3:45:14 PM
> *To:* Cheri Mello
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society
> and culture
>
> I am going to chime in also. I have two Joao de Souza Machado's in my data
> base. What is the time period you are talking about?
> Mine are father and son. The information I have is at the other end of the
> island, Ribeira Seca and Topo. It maybe 2 others by the same name.
> Joao deSouza Machado b abt 1765 Ribeira Seca m 22 Apr 1789 Topo to Maria
> Antonia de  Azevedo b Topo ( I must not have this baptism yet)
>son: Joao deSouza Machado b 12 Feb 1799 Topo m 17 Nov 1823 Topo to
> Maria Delfina de Santo Antonio b 17 Feb 1801
> and son: Manuel b 18 Nov 1791 Topo
> The younger Joao deSouza Machado's brother is Manuel Joao Machado *(My
> direct line)* B 12 Sep 1824 Topo m 24 Sep 1849 to Isabel Joaquina b 23
> Jan 1828 Ribeira Seca
>
> Marilyn
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
>
>> Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to
>> Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f=en
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh dear
>>> --
>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Cheri Mello 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>>> society and culture
>>> Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It
>>> says it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability
>>> to convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be
>>> converted to Word.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>> Nancy
>>> --
>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Victor Soares 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>>> society and culture
>>>
>>> Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6
>>> children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de
>>> Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de
>>> Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I
>>> don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only
>>> recorded what I found while searching for my direct line.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
>>> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
>>> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!
>>>
>>>
>>> Nancy Jean!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>> Rosemarie Capodicci 
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
>>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>>> society and culture
>>>
>>> OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead
>>> me somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it
>>> and eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her
>>> husband, Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will
>>> enjoy reading about my ancestor in other than church records.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death of Manuel Pacheco Dutra, Vila Franca do Campo, 1857

2017-01-01 Thread Cheri Mello 
I think the priest just wrote "Feteira" in the son's death record and did
not specify which one. It's more than I had. I was going back through some
of my earlier work trying to get more of the family group in and cleaning
up some loose ends, like the missing death on this couple.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 2:47 PM, JR  wrote:

> Yes, Philippe is right and very knowledgeable in these matters. I remember
> now, it is like a priest saying, "and we commend his soul to god."
>
> By the way, there is Feteiras Grande and Feteiras Pequena and together
> they are referred to as Feteiras. My wife has ancestors from there. They
> actually adopted the name Feteira as a surname, like the name Achadinha you
> saw in Ponta Garca. The people from that area, such as Santa Ana, Algarvia,
> and Santo Antonio, kind of disappear from the records. They must have lost
> or forgotten to transfer the records to the mother church in their areas.
>
> JR
>
> On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 1:27:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Thanks JR. I'm guessing burial according to custom is digging the hole,
>> sprinkling the holy water, and burying him.
>> I can't find his wife Maria dying in Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca.
>> She may have lived with one of her kids and died in a freguesia over. The
>> hunt goes on.
>>
>> The priest around 1883 recorded everything! He records which neighborhood
>> they were from (and says it was a neighborhood or suburb), which
>> neighborhood or suburb they were in, the spouse, who the parents were, if
>> there any kids...this priest went all out! That allowed me to figure out
>> they were from the eastern part of Achada, which today is Feteira and they
>> use the Santana church today.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:37 PM, JR  wrote:
>>
>>> "encomendação" is an order (instruction or charge) or commission. The
>>> priest was given money to carry out (encomendacao) a burial according to
>>> custom. The deceased was accompanied by the priest to the cemetery and
>>> buried according to custom.
>>>
>>>
>>> *JR*
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 1:20:36 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

 This death of Manuel Pacheco, aged 66. Top right record, 9th line,
 after the colon:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
 SAOMIGUEL-O-1852-1858/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1852-1858_item1/P124.html

 He had a something. I see "teve." The word on the end is hyphenated.
 This priest puts that squashed halo for a tilde, but it looks like this
 word has 2 tildes. I don't know what it is.
 Thanks in advance, Cheri
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread nancy jean baptiste 
Mine was married to Teresa Maria de Jesus...I descend from Joao de Sousa 
Machado and Teresa's son, Joao Inacio de Sousa, b. 9-7-1736 in Norte 
Grandemarried first time, 7-12-1762 to

Maria Bernarda Poderosa,  and 2nd time to his son-in-laws sister, Joanna Maciel 
Alvares.


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Marilyn 
Thompson 
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 3:45:14 PM
To: Cheri Mello
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

I am going to chime in also. I have two Joao de Souza Machado's in my data 
base. What is the time period you are talking about?
Mine are father and son. The information I have is at the other end of the 
island, Ribeira Seca and Topo. It maybe 2 others by the same name.
Joao deSouza Machado b abt 1765 Ribeira Seca m 22 Apr 1789 Topo to Maria 
Antonia de  Azevedo b Topo ( I must not have this baptism yet)
   son: Joao deSouza Machado b 12 Feb 1799 Topo m 17 Nov 1823 Topo to Maria 
Delfina de Santo Antonio b 17 Feb 1801
and son: Manuel b 18 Nov 1791 Topo
The younger Joao deSouza Machado's brother is Manuel Joao Machado (My direct 
line) B 12 Sep 1824 Topo m 24 Sep 1849 to Isabel Joaquina b 23 Jan 1828 Ribeira 
Seca

Marilyn


On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to Google 
Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f=en

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

Oh dear


From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
To: Azores Genealogy

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture
Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It says 
it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability to 
convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be converted 
to Word.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Victor 
Soares >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM

To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death of Manuel Pacheco Dutra, Vila Franca do Campo, 1857

2017-01-01 Thread JR 
Yes, Philippe is right and very knowledgeable in these matters. I remember 
now, it is like a priest saying, "and we commend his soul to god."

By the way, there is Feteiras Grande and Feteiras Pequena and together they 
are referred to as Feteiras. My wife has ancestors from there. They 
actually adopted the name Feteira as a surname, like the name Achadinha you 
saw in Ponta Garca. The people from that area, such as Santa Ana, Algarvia, 
and Santo Antonio, kind of disappear from the records. They must have lost 
or forgotten to transfer the records to the mother church in their areas.

JR

On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 1:27:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Thanks JR. I'm guessing burial according to custom is digging the hole, 
> sprinkling the holy water, and burying him.
> I can't find his wife Maria dying in Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca. 
> She may have lived with one of her kids and died in a freguesia over. The 
> hunt goes on.
>
> The priest around 1883 recorded everything! He records which neighborhood 
> they were from (and says it was a neighborhood or suburb), which 
> neighborhood or suburb they were in, the spouse, who the parents were, if 
> there any kids...this priest went all out! That allowed me to figure out 
> they were from the eastern part of Achada, which today is Feteira and they 
> use the Santana church today.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:37 PM, JR  
> wrote:
>
>> "encomendação" is an order (instruction or charge) or commission. The 
>> priest was given money to carry out (encomendacao) a burial according to 
>> custom. The deceased was accompanied by the priest to the cemetery and 
>> buried according to custom.
>>
>>
>> *JR*
>>
>> On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 1:20:36 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> This death of Manuel Pacheco, aged 66. Top right record, 9th line, after 
>>> the colon:
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1852-1858/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1852-1858_item1/P124.html
>>>
>>> He had a something. I see "teve." The word on the end is hyphenated. 
>>> This priest puts that squashed halo for a tilde, but it looks like this 
>>> word has 2 tildes. I don't know what it is.
>>> Thanks in advance, Cheri
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Marilyn Thompson 
I am going to chime in also. I have two Joao de Souza Machado's in my data
base. What is the time period you are talking about?
Mine are father and son. The information I have is at the other end of the
island, Ribeira Seca and Topo. It maybe 2 others by the same name.
Joao deSouza Machado b abt 1765 Ribeira Seca m 22 Apr 1789 Topo to Maria
Antonia de  Azevedo b Topo ( I must not have this baptism yet)
   son: Joao deSouza Machado b 12 Feb 1799 Topo m 17 Nov 1823 Topo to
Maria Delfina de Santo Antonio b 17 Feb 1801
and son: Manuel b 18 Nov 1791 Topo
The younger Joao deSouza Machado's brother is Manuel Joao Machado *(My
direct line)* B 12 Sep 1824 Topo m 24 Sep 1849 to Isabel Joaquina b 23 Jan
1828 Ribeira Seca

Marilyn


On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Victor Soares  wrote:

> Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to
> Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f=en
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste <
> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh dear
>> --
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Cheri Mello 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>> society and culture
>> Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It
>> says it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability
>> to convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be
>> converted to Word.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Nancy
>> --
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Victor Soares 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
>>
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>> society and culture
>>
>> Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6
>> children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de
>> Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de
>> Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I
>> don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only
>> recorded what I found while searching for my direct line.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
>> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
>> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!
>>
>>
>> Nancy Jean!
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>> society and culture
>>
>> OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead
>> me somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it
>> and eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her
>> husband, Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will
>> enjoy reading about my ancestor in other than church records.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, 
>> *Society
>> and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries*
>> ,
>> while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa
>> Machado
>> 
>> on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our
>> common ancestors)
>>
>> It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture,
>> aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this
>> list

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Edna Epps 
I think I might have him too.   Have to check my Lemos line!

Edna 
dave-e...@comcast.net

[PSALM 71:9]
Do not cast me away when I am old; do not forsake me
when my strength is gone.

On Jan 1, 2017, at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste  
wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!

Nancy Jean!

From: azores@googlegroups.com  
> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture
 
OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records. 

Rosemarie 
rcap...@gmail.com 
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares > wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries 
, while 
searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa Machado 

 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:
The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son Domingos 
António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 reis and in 
goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread nancy jean baptiste 
Thank you Victor...I'll give it a try. Is there nothing relevant to ancestors 
after pg. 128?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Victor 
Soares 
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 2:28:04 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to Google 
Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f=en

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

Oh dear


From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Cheri 
Mello >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
To: Azores Genealogy

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture
Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It says 
it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability to 
convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be converted 
to Word.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Victor 
Soares >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM

To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors'

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Victor Soares 
Nancy - you can delete everything after pg. 128 and then upload it to
Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/?tr=f=en

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 12:00 PM nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Oh dear
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Cheri Mello 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society
> and culture
> Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It
> says it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability
> to convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be
> converted to Word.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?
>
>
> Nancy
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Victor Soares 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
>
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society
> and culture
>
> Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
> Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6
> children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de
> Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de
> Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I
> don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only
> recorded what I found while searching for my direct line.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!
>
>
> Nancy Jean!
>
>
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society
> and culture
>
> OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me
> somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and
> eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband,
> Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy
> reading about my ancestor in other than church records.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
>
> I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, *Society
> and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries*
> ,
> while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa
> Machado
> 
> on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our
> common ancestors)
>
> It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture,
> aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this
> list is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a
> description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:
>
>- *The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her
>son Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash
>140,000 reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8
>barrels(?) of butter.*
>
>
> There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you
> to the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the
> dissertation. You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding
> their livestock!
>
> -Victor Soares
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread nancy jean baptiste 
Oh dear


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cheri 
Mello 
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:58:31 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It says 
it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability to 
convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be converted 
to Word.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Victor 
Soares >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM

To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:

  *   The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son 
Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 
reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) 
of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Cheri Mello 
Convert it to Word and run portions of it through an auto-translator. It
says it's 310 pages, so that's a lot to translate. I don't have the ability
to convert it to word, but Adobe Reader DC says that for a fee it can be
converted to Word.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?
>
>
> Nancy
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Victor Soares 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
>
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society
> and culture
>
> Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6
>> children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de
>> Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de
>> Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I
>> don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only
>> recorded what I found while searching for my direct line.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
>> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
>> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!
>>
>>
>> Nancy Jean!
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas
>> society and culture
>>
>> OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead
>> me somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it
>> and eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her
>> husband, Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will
>> enjoy reading about my ancestor in other than church records.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, 
>> *Society
>> and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries*
>> ,
>> while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa
>> Machado
>> 
>> on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our
>> common ancestors)
>>
>> It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture,
>> aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this
>> list is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a
>> description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:
>>
>>- *The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her
>>son Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash
>>140,000 reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 
>> 8
>>barrels(?) of butter.*
>>
>>
>> There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you
>> to the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the
>> dissertation. You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding
>> their livestock!
>>
>> -Victor Soares
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread nancy jean baptiste 
I tried auto translate to English with no luck.any suggestions?


Nancy


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Victor 
Soares 
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:

  *   The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son 
Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 
reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) 
of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread nancy jean baptiste 
Hm, I wonder if he had only 1 wife.


Nancy


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Soares 
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 1:17:27 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6 children 
that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de Sousa and 
his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de Azevedo, all of 
Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I don't have marriages 
for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only recorded what I found 
while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
> wrote:

OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci >
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:

  *   The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son 
Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 
reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) 
of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Victor Soares 
Yes, that's the João de Sousa Machado that I'm referring to.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 11:00 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6
> children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de
> Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de
> Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I
> don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only
> recorded what I found while searching for my direct line.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!
>
>
> Nancy Jean!
>
>
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society
> and culture
>
> OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me
> somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and
> eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband,
> Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy
> reading about my ancestor in other than church records.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
>
> I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, *Society
> and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries*
> ,
> while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa
> Machado
> 
> on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our
> common ancestors)
>
> It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture,
> aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this
> list is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a
> description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:
>
>- *The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her
>son Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash
>140,000 reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8
>barrels(?) of butter.*
>
>
> There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you
> to the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the
> dissertation. You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding
> their livestock!
>
> -Victor Soares
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci 
Is Joao de Sousa Machado married to Josepha de Sao Joao? They had 6
children that I know of but I only have mariages for my Domingos Antonio de
Sousa and his brother Antonio Sousa Machado married to Maria Inacia de
Azevedo, all of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. There are four other sibs that I
don't have marriages for yet, I usually didn't look for them all and only
recorded what I found while searching for my direct line.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!
>
>
> Nancy Jean!
>
>
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society
> and culture
>
> OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me
> somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and
> eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband,
> Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy
> reading about my ancestor in other than church records.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
>
>> I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, 
>> *Society
>> and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries*
>> ,
>> while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa
>> Machado
>> 
>> on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our
>> common ancestors)
>>
>> It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture,
>> aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this
>> list is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a
>> description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:
>>
>>- *The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her
>>son Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash
>>140,000 reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 
>> 8
>>barrels(?) of butter.*
>>
>>
>> There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you
>> to the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the
>> dissertation. You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding
>> their livestock!
>>
>> -Victor Soares
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci 
Nancy Jean, I hope this is it!! Joao Sousa Machado is not my direct line
but a sibling. Keep searching and we may be connected there!! Wah hoo, 2017
has started with a bang. LOL

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but
> soon! I have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal
> line and the women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!
>
>
> Nancy Jean!
>
>
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society
> and culture
>
> OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me
> somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and
> eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband,
> Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy
> reading about my ancestor in other than church records.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
>
>> I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, 
>> *Society
>> and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries*
>> ,
>> while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa
>> Machado
>> 
>> on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our
>> common ancestors)
>>
>> It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture,
>> aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this
>> list is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a
>> description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:
>>
>>- *The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her
>>son Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash
>>140,000 reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 
>> 8
>>barrels(?) of butter.*
>>
>>
>> There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you
>> to the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the
>> dissertation. You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding
>> their livestock!
>>
>> -Victor Soares
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread nancy jean baptiste 
OMG! I wonder if this is our common ancestor! I haven't read it yet but soon! I 
have a Joao de Sousa Machado too! This is on my direct maternal line and the 
women crry the Bernarda! Can't wait to check!


Nancy Jean!



From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci 
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 11:18:17 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and 
culture

OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me 
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and 
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband, 
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy 
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares 
> wrote:
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, Society 
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th 
centuries, 
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa 
Machado
 on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our common 
ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture, 
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this list 
is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a 
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:

  *   The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her son 
Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash 140,000 
reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8 barrels(?) 
of butter.

There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you to 
the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the dissertation. 
You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding their livestock!

-Victor Soares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death of Manuel Pacheco Dutra, Vila Franca do Campo, 1857

2017-01-01 Thread Cheri Mello 
Thanks JR. I'm guessing burial according to custom is digging the hole,
sprinkling the holy water, and burying him.
I can't find his wife Maria dying in Sao Miguel Arcanjo in Vila Franca. She
may have lived with one of her kids and died in a freguesia over. The hunt
goes on.

The priest around 1883 recorded everything! He records which neighborhood
they were from (and says it was a neighborhood or suburb), which
neighborhood or suburb they were in, the spouse, who the parents were, if
there any kids...this priest went all out! That allowed me to figure out
they were from the eastern part of Achada, which today is Feteira and they
use the Santana church today.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:37 PM, JR  wrote:

> "encomendação" is an order (instruction or charge) or commission. The
> priest was given money to carry out (encomendacao) a burial according to
> custom. The deceased was accompanied by the priest to the cemetery and
> buried according to custom.
>
>
> *JR*
>
> On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 1:20:36 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> This death of Manuel Pacheco, aged 66. Top right record, 9th line, after
>> the colon:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
>> SAOMIGUEL-O-1852-1858/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1852-1858_item1/P124.html
>>
>> He had a something. I see "teve." The word on the end is hyphenated. This
>> priest puts that squashed halo for a tilde, but it looks like this word has
>> 2 tildes. I don't know what it is.
>> Thanks in advance, Cheri
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 

>
> Thank you for the great resource!  I am downloading it to search for 
> relatives!


*Jeremy B-C*
*Researching:** Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Teirceira, **Faial, **Graciosa*

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci 
OMGosh, Victor, this is amazing! I knew Bernarda Rosa was going to lead me
somewhere one day! LOL Her name was so unusual that I made a note of it and
eventually she turned out to be a greatgrandmother along with her husband,
Domingos Antonio de Sousa! Thank you so much for this info, I will enjoy
reading about my ancestor in other than church records.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Victor Soares  wrote:

> I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, *Society
> and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries*
> ,
> while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa
> Machado
> 
> on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our
> common ancestors)
>
> It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture,
> aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this
> list is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a
> description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:
>
>- *The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her
>son Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash
>140,000 reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8
>barrels(?) of butter.*
>
>
> There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you
> to the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the
> dissertation. You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding
> their livestock!
>
> -Victor Soares
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Dissertation on São Jorge Velas society and culture

2017-01-01 Thread Victor Soares 
I came across this Masters dissertation by Rui Duarte Brasil Marques, *Society
and economy of the council of Velos in the 18th-19th centuries*
,
while searching for a name that appears in the obituary of João de Sousa
Machado

on my direct paternal line. (@Rosemarie Capodicci - this is one of our
common ancestors)

It's amazing to read about things like land ownership, agriculture,
aristocracy, living conditions, etc. Most relevant to the people on this
list is the mention of various names. For example, on pg. 55, it contains a
description of a typical land lease using one of my ancestors' contracts:

   - *The new renters, Bernarda Rosa, widow of Domingos António, and her
   son Domingos António de Sousa during 6 years had to pay annually in cash
   140,000 reis and in goods 18 cheeses of 4 pounds each, 3 of 10 pounds and 8
   barrels(?) of butter.*


There are many other names in this dissertation so if your lines lead you
to the council of Velas in São Jorge you should search through the
dissertation. You may even find the design an ancestor used for branding
their livestock!

-Victor Soares

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Death of Manuel Pacheco Dutra, Vila Franca do Campo, 1857

2017-01-01 Thread Philippe Garnier 
Hi Cheri,

"Encomandação de costume" : Encomadação is recomendation to the soul of the 
died personn. "de costume" = usual, what is the minimum.
See others records, exemple in the img 131, to Antonio Duarte (bottom 
right) : "celebrou se por sua alma um officio de tres liçoes" = the died 
person had a will where he said he gives money to celebrate three masses to 
his own soul.

Best regards

Philippe Garnier
Paris - France

http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira

Le dimanche 1 janvier 2017 07:20:36 UTC+1, Cheri Mello a écrit :
>
> This death of Manuel Pacheco, aged 66. Top right record, 9th line, after 
> the colon:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1852-1858/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1852-1858_item1/P124.html
>  
> 
>
> He had a something. I see "teve." The word on the end is hyphenated. This 
> priest puts that squashed halo for a tilde, but it looks like this word has 
> 2 tildes. I don't know what it is.
> Thanks in advance, Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>

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