Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Primeira d’este

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Jesse, what primeiro d’este refers to translates to “first of” or first child 
born with this name. Sometimes children died and the subsequent child was given 
the same name. Additionally, some girls were baptized as Maria, but they might 
have multiple Maria’s. Eg. Maria did Anjos, Maria José, Maria de Conceição, so 
you can see why the priest expands upon the number of children the couple has 
by numbering.

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> On Jul 21, 2019, at 6:26 PM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> I remember research two brothers with same name but they had very different 
> surnames. In fact it was hard to tied the one to the family except It was 
> mentioned in a baptism as a brother. That’s when I knew I had been 
> overlooking this one thinking I did not know how to place him in a tree. It 
> is also confusing because the men ( in certain families) change their 
> surnames at a certain point in their lives. This is why I started to create a 
> timeline to locate when the name changes so maybe I can note why. Still 
> working on that one.
> One thing I work every hard at doing is trying to connect godparents with 
> their families in my tree. I wish I was better at reading Portuguese because 
> I think the witnesses at weddings would also hold valuable information for 
> making connections and completing family groups. I thank God for this group 
> to help with the reading of the records.
>  
> I would love to have a discussion with people who are more skilled then I am 
> to see if what I’m thinking might have some merit or am I just wasting my 
> time.
> Have a great day.
> Doreen
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> From: 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 8:19 AM
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> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Primeira d’este
>  
> Cheri
>  
> I’m sure you’re right but I am someone that has two Manuels, both lived, and 
> had families…… Not sure if I’m the example you mentioned or not? When I first 
> discovered this, I assumed the first Manuel had died. I knew the second 
> Manuel had lived …. he married the sister of his oldest brother, Francisco, 
> so I never researched that first Manuel. Eventually, after being contacted by 
> another researcher, we realized that HER Manuel was the first one in the 
> family, the one I had assumed had died. (He had changed his last name to 
> Rodgers, possibly to distinguish him from his brother.) This was proven, by 
> the way, with, among other things, his obituary that listed all his siblings, 
> including my Francisco Pereira da Rosa! Pretty exciting and a reminder to all 
> of us to keep an open mind and make no assumptions without proving or 
> disproving them. Oh, also, this family had two Maria Delfinas! Thanks a lot, 
> da Rosas, lol. I have never seen this in any other of my families with 
> Manuels.
>  
> Kathy
> ~~~
> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/
> ~~~
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 21, 2019, at 6:27 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>  
> So if you see a Manuel, first of the name, then see a Manuel, 2nd of the 
> name, the 1st one has died. Yes, someone on this list has found 2 Manuels, 
> both married and had kids. However, I'd say that was pretty rare. So 
> generally, the first boy has died. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Franco Pacheco-Born 18 December 1850-Sao Jorge-Nordeste-Sao Miquel-Azores

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Dan, there is a cemetery for Nordeste but if you are looking for someone in 
particular, you should check their obituary record to make sure they were not 
buried in the “Fazenda” of São Jorge. In many,  many cases you will find that 
people from the islands were buried in a communal plot. This was done for 
practical and financial reasons as the island simply could not keep expanding  
to create additional cemetery plots and also because the majority of 
parishioners could not afford a cemetery plot.

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> On Jun 21, 2019, at 1:35 AM, Dan LaRue  wrote:
> 
> Later this year we will be visiting Sao Miguel. My wife's ancestors migrated 
> from Nordeste to Massachusetts. I would like to find the graves of her 
> ancestors. They should have lived around the parish of Sao Jorge in Nordeste. 
> I would greatly appreciate any help.
> 
> We will also be looking for the grave of a Benny Pimental who was born in the 
> United States but returned to, and died, on Sao Miguel. He would have been 
> born around 1895 and died on Sao Miguel about 1980. 
> 
> Thank you so much for any help.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off Subject question about Family Treekmaker software

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Leonor, if you’re using FTM, select the individual through the list of name’s 
under the tree tab. With that person active, their should be a fly out menu 
bewitch an arrow at the top with a groom and bride avatar button. Click on the 
down arrow right beside the groom and bride avatar and a menu list should 
appear.  Select “Delete Person”

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> On Apr 4, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Leonor Bertoni  wrote:
> 
> Are you using FTM? If so, it had added an unknown spouse to some of my living 
> relatives. I deleted the fact on Ancestry and it eventually deleted from FTM. 
> I couldn’t figure out how to delete it from FTM.
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:05 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to delete an “unknown spouse”.  I have inadvertently 
>> hit the “add a spouse” button when there was no spouse to add.  I know how 
>> to delete a person who has a name but; it won’t let me delete the blank 
>> spouse so, I have 3 spouses showing instead of 2 and that is messing things 
>> up.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks all,
>> 
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with godfather's name

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I think it is Sebastião Alexandre

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> On Mar 27, 2019, at 11:17 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I have never seen the name Lixandre before this record, but now I think I've 
> seen it twice.  
> 
> It looks to me like Sebastião Lixandre, filho familias de Sebastião Lixandre 
> and Maria Lianor.
> 
> I am nowhere near certainty--this record is tough.
> 
> Bill Seidler
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:06:19 PM UTC-7, Leonor Bertoni wrote:
>> I like Squiggles but could it be Sebastião Lixandre filho de Francisco Lopes?
>> 
>>> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 23:02, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> Sebastiao Squiggles. Yep, looks like the guy had another sip of vinho with 
>>> each line! (This is the reason I tell my math students not to squish their 
>>> work...they will mess it up)! 
>>> 
>>> If I had to take a guess, Sebastiao Alexandre something something Lopes 
>>>  I can see Lianor Clara. I'm really don't think Sebastiao's 2nd name is 
>>> Alexandre, but I can see the "xandre" or "xondre" which makes me think 
>>> Alexandre, but I don't think it's right.
>>> 
>>> More people need to take a look.
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:26 PM  wrote:
 I need help with Sebastião's godfather. I can see that his first name was 
 also Sebastião but the rest is just a bunch of squiggles.This is my 
 2nd great grandfather and I would like to have his godfather's complete 
 name if possible.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] July 1900 disaster Santa Maria?

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On a related note, I don’t know if your twins were exposts, but many children 
who were abandoned were given to wet nurses or other village women to take care 
of. Breastfeeding allowed mother’s to pass on enzymes and other nutrients that 
would greatly boost the immune system of infants. Deaths among infants in the 
old days was very high until the invention of pablum, especially among children 
who were given over to someone else to raise.

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> On Mar 2, 2019, at 12:59 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
> 
> Sam, I’m helping index Sao Jorge but working on one of “my” villages. So I’m 
> sort of doing both. 
> 
> Unfortunately I am going very slowly on this one. Must get to work. :)
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2019, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> Yes, that does seem odd.  Which island are you doing and are you extracting 
>> the records or only looking for your line?  Just curious what others are 
>> doing.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Mary Bordi
>> Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 10:45 AM
>> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] July 1900 disaster Santa Maria?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I’m looking at deaths for another island. And indeed there are times when 
>> there are one or more deaths every day for weeks, with families losing 
>> several members.  So sad. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> And then there are months with only a few deaths. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> But I found one stretch of two months with no deaths at all and no notation 
>> that the records had been lost...and THAT made me wonder! (This was in the 
>> 1850s.) 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2019, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Linda;  Interesting thought, about epidemics being so much a part of 
>> everyday life.  Also, as Cheri said, could have been as simple as one child 
>> getting a communicable disease and passing it on the other child.  Since I 
>> first posted my question, I have come upon another two records showing twin 
>> infants who died within days of each other.  I’m extracting obits and it is 
>> so sad to see so many infants and toddlers dying in a month long period.  So 
>> far, it’s been almos 50/50 between adults and infants/toddlers.  I now 
>> understand better why you always hear of the short life expectancy in bygone 
>> times.  Many people lived into their 70’s & 80’s but; so many died as 
>> infants/toddlers that the average was brought way down.  I feel so bad for 
>> all those families.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: linda
>> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 8:28 PM
>> To: Azores Genealogy
>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: July 1900 disaster Santa Maria?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> There are no major natural disasters listed here:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_disasters_in_the_Azores
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So, I'm with Cheri and am putting my money on an epidemic:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseases_and_epidemics_of_the_19th_century
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A long while back, I read a 19th century travelogue that described the 
>> writer's ship's passengers as not being allowed to disembark at one of the 
>> Islands either 1) until the ship was cleared as being free of epidemic 
>> disease, or 2) not being allowed to disembark at all because the ship had 
>> come from a port where an epidemic had been occurring.  Sorry my 
>> recollection is vague and I don't recall the source. My point is, I suppose, 
>> that epidemics were so much a part of life that there was a bureaucracy in 
>> place to deal with them.
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 4:51:36 PM UTC-8, Sam Koester wrote:
>> 
>> I’m doing obits right now and I have two siblings, one 11 months and the 
>> other 15 days old that died 9 days apart in July of 1900. (July 20 and 29th) 
>>  So sad.  Out of curiosity, does anyone know of some disaster that occurred 
>> around that time on Santa Maria island?  Sickness, earthquake, ??
>> 
>>  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation?

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Ray, this Domingos was born to a single mother named Isabela Mechelina 
(Meguelina)

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> On Mar 1, 2019, at 10:04 AM, Ray B  wrote:
> 
> I went back to the website and found the record again for my great 
> grandfather's baptism. It is: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-SANTOAMARO-B-1860-1869/SJR-VL-SANTOAMARO-B-1860-1869_item1/P13.html
> 
> I hope someone can help with this translation his name was Domingos. 
> Father and mother were Tomas and Marianne.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Ray B. (Dutra)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin note in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel island

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Not to make things more complicated, but is the last note a correction to the 
first note?

Ughhh. Too many notes in this one.

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> On Dec 25, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> Roza, #17 on the right:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899_item1/P159.html
> 
> She's born in 1896. Her daughter, still living, was born in the mid-1930s. 
> She is a legitimate birth.
> 
> Note 1: Rosa married Francisco de Medeiros Melo (correct) in 1981?!?!?!  But 
> the note was made in 1968. That does say 1981, right?
> 
> Note 2: Says Francisco the husband died in 1963 (kinda hard to do if he 
> didn't marry her until 1981) but then I *think* they correct the marriage 
> date in Note 1 to the year 1921. 
> 
> Am I reading that correctly?
> Thanks,
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin note in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel island

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I get 19 May 1981

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> Roza, #17 on the right:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1890-1899_item1/P159.html
> 
> She's born in 1896. Her daughter, still living, was born in the mid-1930s. 
> She is a legitimate birth.
> 
> Note 1: Rosa married Francisco de Medeiros Melo (correct) in 1981?!?!?!  But 
> the note was made in 1968. That does say 1981, right?
> 
> Note 2: Says Francisco the husband died in 1963 (kinda hard to do if he 
> didn't marry her until 1981) but then I *think* they correct the marriage 
> date in Note 1 to the year 1921. 
> 
> Am I reading that correctly?
> Thanks,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Inventories (Inventarios) and wills

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Joe, you can research from home here :
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx

You can also research on the Tombo website. Maybe someone else can provide that 
link.

Altino

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> On Jul 23, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Joe Matias  wrote:
> 
> Do you have to be in Ponta Delgada in order to view all the pages of your 
> search,or is there a way of doing so through the internet at home?
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:19 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> While I was in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island, I made extensive use of 
>> the inventories or wills. I was able to find them on the Archives Catalog at 
>> http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/  I don't know how to find them for other 
>> islands. I don't think the other archives entered them or perhaps the 
>> inventories or wills are not housed at the other archives.
>> 
>> The inventories and wills varied a lot and from time period to time period. 
>> The more recent ones were better, as they were more organized and followed a 
>> format.
>> 
>> They started with a cover page, naming the deceased and who was in charge of 
>> their inventory. Some had maybe 7 pieces of paper (so potentially 14 pages 
>> of information). Some had 144 pieces of paper (288 pages of information). 
>> The more "recent" ones (1920s forward) had a copy of the death certificate 
>> with the cause of death listed. Or the best that medicine knew for that time 
>> period. They named children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren if they had 
>> any. If you can read the births and marriages, then you already know the 
>> words of "filhos" and "netos." "Bisnetos" are the great-grandchildren. Some 
>> listed relatives on the paternal side "pelo lado paterno" or the maternal 
>> side "pelo lada materna," Anytime I saw the word "familia" I scanned the 
>> page. Some listed what I believe were people they owed. Some listed what 
>> they owned, as in the furnishings and whatnot. My 2 great-grandmother's had 
>> a declaration from her husband. I don't know what it says yet. I'm waiting 
>> on my cousin to tell me. And there was a lot of legal stuff in there too.
>> 
>> The earliest will/inventory that I looked at was from 1807. Some exist from 
>> the 1700s. 
>> 
>> Not every ancestor will have an inventory or will. You didn't need to own 
>> property to have an will or inventory. As I said, it appeared that one guy 
>> owed a lot of people a lot of money.
>> 
>> They allowed me to take pictures with my camera (found out I need a 
>> different pair of reading glasses to take pictures). They said that the 
>> inventories are NEVER to be posted anywhere on the Internet. That means 
>> Ancestry.com, Geni.com, My Heritage, FamilySearch.org, your own personal 
>> page, etc. They consider the inventories private Yes, I understand that if 
>> the person died in 1807, no one alive today was mentioned in that will. But 
>> they have their rules. I said it was going to be left on my computer so I 
>> could consult it. I would extract only genealogy information from the 
>> documents, but would never post an image of any them. So for those utilizing 
>> the inventories/wills, do NOT post them ANYWHERE on the Internet or you mess 
>> it up for future genealogists.
>> 
>> Hopefully the other archives will get their inventories/wills up on the 
>> Archives Catalog.
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Furtado (1750s-1813) & Marianna da Trindade (1750s-1823) of Vila Franca & Ponta Garca

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I would think you have these already, but in case you don’t have your computer 
with you

Justina de Piedade m Eminegildo
Ponta Garca
05 Jan 1813

Antonio da Costa m Josefa de Jesus

Antonia de Trinidad m Francisco da Costa Carneiro
Ponta Garca 
14 Sept 1809

Ana de Espírito Santo m Francisco de Mello Barboza
Ponta Garca 
08 Nov 1813

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> OK Ponta Garca researchers...I need you to open your genealogy programs and 
> search for Manuel Furtado (MF) & Marianna da Trindade (MT). I need more than 
> one descendant couple to search on. The dispensations are VERY hit and miss. 
> There are many missing dispensations. Just because JR gave me one couple to 
> search (they are 2nd cousins...So the line WILL go beyond MF & MT) doesn't 
> mean that the dispensation exists anymore. The more descendants that I have, 
> the more chances we have to figure out the parents of MF and MT. Please look. 
> I have only today (Fri) and Tuesday to look. And that's only if I can escape 
> from these band people! Lol I will escape, but I want to be successful in the 
> search. Thanks, Cheri
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2018 3:35 AM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>> To those who descend from Manuel Furtado (born c. 1750s probably Sao Miguel 
>> Arcanjo in Vila Franca) and Marianna da Trindade (born c. 1750s in São Pedro 
>> in Vila Franca)...This couple had  a bunch of kids (one baptized at SMA and 
>> one baptized at S.Pedro in VFranca, with the rest born in Ponta Garca). 
>> 
>> I pulled the dispensations for Sao Miguel island from 1770-1775. Only 3 
>> exist and none are Manuel and Marianna. So I checked to see if any of their 
>> kids married cousins so I could pull those dispensations. Not a single kid 
>> married a cousin! Where's a cousin when you need one? So I decided to move 
>> on to the grandkids of Manuel & Marianna. I don't have ALL the grandkids 
>> though.
>> 
>> If you are Manuel & Marianna descendant, can you check your database and see 
>> what you have on your branch for grandkids or great-grandkids of Manuel & 
>> Marianna? If the grandkid or great-grandkid married a cousin, I will pull 
>> the dispensation and maybe we can solve the mystery of who Manuel & 
>> Marianna's parents are. I don't have the time to research grandkids and 
>> great-grandkids all myself to figure out who married a cousin.
>> 
>> My time here is tricky between performances and just other stuff that comes 
>> up with traveling groups. So the sooner you can check your databases, the 
>> sooner I can make plans to pull the dispensations. It may take 2 days for 
>> retrieval, so the sooner the better.
>> 
>> Thanks, Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bandida?

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Helen, if you can copy paste the URL to the Centre do Conhecimento dos Açores 
page containing the records for Laurentina, the group can take a look and let 
you know what might be misspelled or what her surname might be.

Altino

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> On Mar 10, 2018, at 12:49 PM, hcalc...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, I've been trying to search Luz, Graciosa baptism records which is 
> difficult since the script is hard to read and I know so little Portuguese. I 
> have been trying to use Google Translate which sometimes works and other 
> times gives me strange translations which means that I've misread letters.  I 
> have determined that my grandmother, Maria Pacheco de Mello was the "natural 
> daughter" of an unmarried woman, Laurentina Isabel dos Santos who was the 
> "natural" daugher of a single woman, Joaquina bandida.  I don't think that 
> bandida is a surname as it is not capitalized and I have seen it elsewhere.  
> The literal translation is bandit!  Is this an expression. Does anyone know 
> what it means in this context.  Thanks. Helen
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Botelho & Carreiro Family From Ginetes Sao Miguel

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Hi, your post listing a Miguel Carreiro from Ginetes caught me by surprise. 
Miguel Carreiro is my 3rd great grandfather. I have more information on both 
him and his wives. Miguel's birth was probably listed as a foundling, however 
at a certain point in his life his mother must have come back and identified 
him. His mother was Maria de Estrella from Calhetas. Born 1801 and died 1873. 
She became e godmother of one of his children (Margarida) on sept 23, 1858 
along with Francisco Moniz. At first I thought this was his birth parents, 
however, Calhetas is a freguesia that only has about 7 births a year. Her obit 
lists her age and when going back to the birth year, there is only 1 Maria and 
Francisco Moniz is listed as her father along with Ana de São Matheus. They are 
not listed as legitimate or illegitimate.

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> Hi i have an upcoming trip to Sao Miguel in April and I am looking for 
> information on my great grandmothers family, which i believe is from 
> Ginetes..  i have attached a picture.. 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please -

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Jacki, I hope this helps with Antonio do Rego and Maria Francisca. I looked at 
Canto's index for Faja de Baixo. They had 4 other kids that I see...

Antonia Jacintha m. Francisco Rodrigues 3 Oct 1786
Francisco do Rego m. Maria Joaquinha 24 June 1787
André do Rego m. Ana Francisca 11 Oct 1787
João do Rego m. Josepha Francisca 18 Aug 1794.

Maybe the marriage record of one of these other kids might help with clues to 
going further back with Antonio do Rego and Maria Francisca.

Altino Demelo



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> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> It's been a really long time since I've posted anything to the group. Life 
> sort of got in the way of researching. :)  I'm trying to get back to it and 
> I've realized that I'm really out of practice reading these. I could only 
> read the basics anyway but after all this time, I'm not doing very well with 
> that either. 
> 
> If someone could please be so kind as to translate the basic info from this 
> marriage record, I would truly appreciate the help. The record is for Thome 
> de Medeiros, born 18, Dec 1724 Fajo de Baixo, Sao Miguel and he married 
> Felica Rosa, who if I have the correct record, was born 3 Dec 1761. (37 yrs 
> his junior). I'm hoping this record mentions their parents and especially, 
> their ages at the time so I can confirm that this is correct or not.
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P52.html
> 
> 
> Cheri, my apologies if I'm not posting this the correct way. As I said, it's 
> been a long time.
> 
> 
> Cheers
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please -

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Jacki, I tried replying to your post earlier, but the reply hasn't shown up on 
my device.

The record says on Dec 3, 1781 in the Ermida of Nossa Senhora dos Anjos, Thome 
de Medeiros, legitimate son of Manuel Fernandes & Sebastianna da Rocha (both 
deceased) weds Felicia Rosa, legitimate daughter of Antonio do Rego and his 
wife, Maria Francisca. (Both are natives of this parish)

I found Manuel Fernandes marrying Sebastianna de Oliveira da Rocha in Canto's 
index for Faja de Baixo. The date year is too hard for me to make out because 
those pages have hard to read months without years.

Manuel Fernandes is the son of Manuel Fernandes and Suzana Luis.
Sebastianna de Oliveira da Rocha is the daughter of Pedro da Rocha and Maria de 
Oliveira.

(Please double check the record to confirm)

Look in marriages around 1705.

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> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> It's been a really long time since I've posted anything to the group. Life 
> sort of got in the way of researching. :)  I'm trying to get back to it and 
> I've realized that I'm really out of practice reading these. I could only 
> read the basics anyway but after all this time, I'm not doing very well with 
> that either. 
> 
> If someone could please be so kind as to translate the basic info from this 
> marriage record, I would truly appreciate the help. The record is for Thome 
> de Medeiros, born 18, Dec 1724 Fajo de Baixo, Sao Miguel and he married 
> Felica Rosa, who if I have the correct record, was born 3 Dec 1761. (37 yrs 
> his junior). I'm hoping this record mentions their parents and especially, 
> their ages at the time so I can confirm that this is correct or not.
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P52.html
> 
> 
> Cheri, my apologies if I'm not posting this the correct way. As I said, it's 
> been a long time.
> 
> 
> Cheers
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Luis Mello

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Cheri, is Reuben a descendent of José Mello's daughter Georgina who married 
Francisco Pacheco Rainha? Sorry i may be confused.

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> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:48 AM, ramr123...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Cheri,
> 
> Luis Mello born 1825 is my 4th Great Grandfather and I believe you're my 4th 
> cousin 1x removed! I've become very interested in ancestry due to one of my 
> maiden names Rainha. I've researched it and can't seem to trace that name 
> past one of my ancestors. It seems like the male line changes to Salvador. I 
> was wondering if you knew more about this. My 2nd Great Grandparents are 
> Antonio Rainha and Rosa Augusta Bettencourt.
> 
> Thanks
> Ruben
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name the baby (Vila Franca do Campo, 1697)

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Looks like Gertruda to me.

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> On Oct 10, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Top left, name the baby girl:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1696-1710_item1/P13.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Difficult abbreviation

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Thanks JR.

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> Hi everyone, I'm attaching a file with a marriage record from São Matheus de 
> Calhetas (island of Terceira). The marriage starts at the bottom of the left 
> side and continues onto the top right. The groom is Manuel ? Serodio and so 
> is his dad. I was hoping to get the abbreviated part though because I am 
> having a hard time going further.
> 
> Altino
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Difficult abbreviation

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Hi everyone, I'm attaching a file with a marriage record from São Matheus de 
Calhetas (island of Terceira). The marriage starts at the bottom of the left 
side and continues onto the top right. The groom is Manuel ? Serodio and so is 
his dad. I was hoping to get the abbreviated part though because I am having a 
hard time going further.

Altino

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fall River obituaries - searching 1980

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Thanks "E", Joanne, Richard, Pam and MME. I'll go through your suggestions and 
hopefully find a way to get that obit.

Cheers

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> Does anyone know if there is a way to search through newspaper records for 
> Fall River 1980 obituary dates? I came across a record in Ginetes that lists 
> Manuel da Silva Diogenes passing in Fall River on February 11, 1980. I'm 
> hoping his obituary will list names for surviving family. He's a descendant 
> of my great great grandmother and it would be great to find this family line.
> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Fall River obituaries - searching 1980

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Does anyone know if there is a way to search through newspaper records for Fall 
River 1980 obituary dates? I came across a record in Ginetes that lists Manuel 
da Silva Diogenes passing in Fall River on February 11, 1980. I'm hoping his 
obituary will list names for surviving family. He's a descendant of my great 
great grandmother and it would be great to find this family line.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a name

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I think it looks like Lereira. Like the person in question was a female 
"Louro". 

On Thursday, August 31, 2017 3:59 PM, Walter Teixeira  
wrote:
 

 Can anyone make out what the word is after Francisca and before ambos?  See 
the attached and here is the link to the whole document should you need.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9SL-422R?i=87=MPZ3-K6V%3A222378701%2C222408101%2C222408102%2C222528501=1928593

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread

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Happy Easter everyone.

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> On Apr 15, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Happy Easter and Feliz Pascoa to all!
> 
> If you would like to send your Easter greetings, hit reply and respond to 
> this thread ONLY. Do NOT start your own Easter thread. 
> 
> You may send your Easter greetings on Saturday and Sunday. If it's Monday in 
> your time zone, you are too late. The Easter greeting thread will be done by 
> then.
> Thanks, Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

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My mother was originally from Ginetes in São Miguel and had many Men win her 
family with that profession you mentioned. From what she says, they were 
Mason's. In particular stone Mason's who were used to make stone houses, walls 
etc.

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> On Jan 24, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Joanne Mercier  wrote:
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
> 
> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it could 
> be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry and the 
> date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t seem to 
> contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that a title 
> before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen before? 
> 
> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
> Joanne Grota Mercier
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Priest gave child 2 different names and sexes

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Here's what I see...

On the 10th of Aug, 1637 baptism of Maria, daughter of Sebastião Ferreira and 
Catatina Cabral. Godparents are Antonio da Costa, son of Manuel? Ferreira and 
Agada Ferreira, daughter of Gonçalo Ferreira.

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> 
> Left page last one down
> 
> Wow- Priest wrote Sebastiao in the margin for the name but in the body he 
> wrote the name of the child as MARIA!!
> 
> Help!  (There already was an older sister named Maria.  )
> 
> I'm not sure if I enter this as a female or a male, as Maria or Sebastiao.  
> Grrr.  Maybe go by the body of the baptism?  
> 
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-B-1623-1698/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-B-1623-1698_item1/P27.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

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It is indeed. 
Joanne, do you have info on Catarina's marriage? I only have the info for 
Antonia and her descendants.

On Monday, January 2, 2017 10:30 PM, Joanne Mercier 
 wrote:
 

 #yiv8002422258 body{font-family:Helvetica, Arial;font-size:13px;}Ok - your 
6GGrandparents are my 6G Uncle and Aunt. Antonia’s sister, Catarina de Carvalho 
Aguiar is who I decsend from on my paternal side. It IS a small world indeed!
Joanne  
  
On January 2, 2017 at 10:10:18 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
(rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote: 
Antonia de Carvalho married Alexio de Medeiros on 23 Jun 1717 in Ajuda, The 
record is there but I will have to look for it. Alexio and Antonia are my 6th 
Great Grandparents. I descend from their son Alexandre de Medeiros and Luzia 
Cabral. Rick From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Joanne Mercier
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 9:38 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanna de 
Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741? Don't think that one is part of 
my clan then. I have an Alexio de Medeiros married to an Antonia Carvalho and I 
am looking for their ancestors and desecdents. Thanks for the clarification, 
Rick.On January 2, 2017 at 9:18:38 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
(rickredle...@gmail.com) wrote:
Her mother’s name is Jacinta de Medeiros The marriage date is 4 Apr 1741 From: 
azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joanne 
Mercier
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 8:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de Medeiros 
and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741? Left page - top of page 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P55.html
  I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the rest 
of the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this tricky one 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Marriage of Joanne de Medeiros and Antonio de Costa - Bretanha 1741?

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Alexis de Medeiros is my 6th great grandfather. He married Antonia Oliveira 
Carvalho in Bretanha on June 23, 1717. That record is in the marriages book of 
that period, however, it is out of place.

Aleixo's parents are Manuel Alves or Alvares Calvo and Maria de Oliveira.

Antonia's parents are Manuel de Oliveira and Maria de Oliveira Carvalho





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> On Jan 2, 2017, at 8:31 PM, Joanne Mercier  wrote:
> 
> Left page - top of page
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P55.html
> 
> 
> I can see that her father is Alexio de Medeiros but that about it - the rest 
> of the script is just not reading clearly to me. Any help with this tricky 
> one will be most greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes

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Oh, and btw, definitely truncated in safari.

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> I was using the Ponta Delgada Passaportes last night. As I went through image 
> 120, 121, etc, I came to image 130. Only half the image loaded. I tried the 
> image after. It completely loaded. Since I was on Firefox, I tried Chrome. It 
> didn't load there. I emailed the CCA and they said to use Internet Explorer 
> (on one image??) I have a newer computer and they don't have IE anymore. They 
> have Edge. I had the same display program. What do you guys see? Any idea of 
> how to get that one image to display?
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915_item1/P130.html
>   
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Display issue on the Passaportes

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Definitely gets chopped in half. I think they are probably seeing the 1/2 and 
thinking that is all there is to the record. My suggestion is to save the 
truncated image. Download another page and draw a rectangle on the image 
containing a full graphic of the area hat is missing on the bad image. When you 
send them the two, they may get a better idea of what is actually missing on 
the truncated image.

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> 
> I was using the Ponta Delgada Passaportes last night. As I went through image 
> 120, 121, etc, I came to image 130. Only half the image loaded. I tried the 
> image after. It completely loaded. Since I was on Firefox, I tried Chrome. It 
> didn't load there. I emailed the CCA and they said to use Internet Explorer 
> (on one image??) I have a newer computer and they don't have IE anymore. They 
> have Edge. I had the same display program. What do you guys see? Any idea of 
> how to get that one image to display?
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915_item1/P130.html
>   
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a record from Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franco do Campo

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Will do. Yes, I have found in other records that sometimes missing persons can 
be found in nearby parishes.

Thanks everyone for your help.

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> Hi everyone,
> 
> I was hoping i could get some help in terms deciphering the names of the 
> parents of a couple from a marriage record in Vila Franco do Campo.
> 
> The record is on the top left page, here: 
> 
> p://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P43.html
> 
> From what i can make out, the couple getting married is Manuel Rodrigues 
> (Roiz) and Ursula de Mello. 
> 
> HIs parents: Sebastiao (?) Roiz (deceased) and Catherina (not sure if that is 
> a surname after her first name or if it reads as defunto)
> Her Parents: Manuel (Ferreira ?) and Manria de Mello
> 
> (Does anyone know what the word after his surname is ?)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a record from Matriz de Sao Miguel, Vila Franco do Campo

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John, I have Manuel and Ursula's son Antonio marrying Maria de Medeiros 
(daughter ofAntonio de Medeiros and Barbara da Costa in Faja de Baixo on 
October 15th, 1717. Unfortunately, at this point I was stuck on both of these 
lines until I came across the Manuel & Ursula marriage in Villa Franca. 

Cheri, that was a typo. Too much vinho or fat fingers. 

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>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I was hoping i could get some help in terms deciphering the names of the 
> parents of a couple from a marriage record in Vila Franco do Campo.
> 
> The record is on the top left page, here: 
> 
> p://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P43.html
> 
> From what i can make out, the couple getting married is Manuel Rodrigues 
> (Roiz) and Ursula de Mello. 
> 
> HIs parents: Sebastiao (?) Roiz (deceased) and Catherina (not sure if that is 
> a surname after her first name or if it reads as defunto)
> Her Parents: Manuel (Ferreira ?) and Manria de Mello
> 
> (Does anyone know what the word after his surname is ?)
> 
> Thanks for your help.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1836 Baptism in Ribeira Quente on Sao Miguel island (way too much vinho)

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I get 8th of February 1836

Na hora de seu nascimento. In the hour of his birth

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> 
> Baptism of Manuel on the left:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1821-1837/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1821-1837_item1/P176.html
> 
> 8th line from the signature on the bottom:
> nasceu aos ioto??? or is that supposed to be dezeoito? Or just aos oito?
> 
> Next line: He was baptized in the house of Antonia de Jesus, married with 
> Francisco Furtado, of extreme necessity, in the hour of  I lose the rest 
> of the record. It doesn't follow the format and no godparents are named.
> 
> Thanks in advance! Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosais, Sao Jorge baptism margin note

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Haha, yes, thanks, 

Sorry. Weird.

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> On Oct 15, 2016, at 1:34 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy 
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> Hey... You want to go to summer hill?
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>> On Oct 15, 2016, at 1:06 PM, 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy 
>> <azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> 
>> I think the obit of Manuel was on 1937, 3 April.
>> The marriage was on 1923, 23 April.
>> The the margin note was wrote on 1975, 5 April.
>> 
>> Why 40 years between the obit and the margin note ? Perhaps a certificate 
>> was useful to a descendant in 1975.
>> 
>> Best regards
>>  
>> Philippe Garnier Paris - France 
>> 
>> 
>> Em Sábado, 15 de Outubro de 2016 18:23, Mary Bordi <busybo...@gmail.com> 
>> escreveu:
>> 
>> 
>> I was wondering if anyone can help me with this margin note. I have never 
>> had such a long one for an ancestor!
>> 
>> It's Manuel, #29 on the right hand page going over to the next page (which 
>> would be the next image).
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1880-1889/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1880-1889_item1/P105.html
>> 
>> This is my grandmother's first cousin (new to me). I think the top note was 
>> written after the part on the next page. It appears to be dated 1937 but my 
>> eyes may be wrong. Is it about his death?
>> 
>> On the next page I get the part about his marriage to Maria Amelia on (I 
>> think) 26 April 1923 but there seem to be other dates. 
>> 
>> I don't need a word for word translation. I'd just like to know if I'm 
>> missing something important. 
>> 
>> Thanks for any help!
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rosais, Sao Jorge baptism margin note

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Hey... You want to go to summer hill?

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> On Oct 15, 2016, at 1:06 PM, 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> 
> I think the obit of Manuel was on 1937, 3 April.
> The marriage was on 1923, 23 April.
> The the margin note was wrote on 1975, 5 April.
> 
> Why 40 years between the obit and the margin note ? Perhaps a certificate was 
> useful to a descendant in 1975.
> 
> Best regards
>  
> Philippe Garnier Paris - France 
> 
> 
> Em Sábado, 15 de Outubro de 2016 18:23, Mary Bordi  
> escreveu:
> 
> 
> I was wondering if anyone can help me with this margin note. I have never had 
> such a long one for an ancestor!
> 
> It's Manuel, #29 on the right hand page going over to the next page (which 
> would be the next image).
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1880-1889/SJR-VL-ROSAIS-B-1880-1889_item1/P105.html
> 
> This is my grandmother's first cousin (new to me). I think the top note was 
> written after the part on the next page. It appears to be dated 1937 but my 
> eyes may be wrong. Is it about his death?
> 
> On the next page I get the part about his marriage to Maria Amelia on (I 
> think) 26 April 1923 but there seem to be other dates. 
> 
> I don't need a word for word translation. I'd just like to know if I'm 
> missing something important. 
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

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Thanks Manoel.

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> On Apr 4, 2016, at 9:11 AM, mances  wrote:
> 
> Hi cousin Altino,
> 
> As I went back in time I found that I have ancestors all over the island of 
> São Miguel, in every freguesia.
> 
> I've looked the baptisms of Barnabé Travassos' children and with some 
> informations about him in RR's book I think that probably he is son of Diogo 
> Velho, from Relva,and Maria Dias.
> 
> It's not organizedy yet, but here's what I have about him:
> 
> "Barnabé Travassos":
> 
> Primeiro casamento. 
> Casou pela segunda vez na Candelária em 27.9.1640 - CCA #52 com Maria Dias 
> filha de Manuel Dias (f.) e de Luzia Gonçalves. O termo o menciona como viúvo 
> e não diz o nome de seus pais. Foram testemunhas Francisco da Costa, 
> Sebastião Velho Ferreira, Francisco Raposo e Pedro Velho.
> 
> Na Candelária em 7.9.1640 - CCA #53, há o casamento de Ana de Sousa, filha de 
> Barnabé Travassos e Mécia de Sousa, com Antonio Dias filho de Manuel Dias 
> (f.).
> 
> Na Candelária em 25.2.1659 - EC #35, há o casamento de Nicolau de Sousa, 
> filho de Barnabé Travassos e Mécia de Sousa, com Maria Carvalho filha de 
> Belchior Gonçalves e Margarida Carvalho.
> 
> Na Candelária em 23.12.1663 - EC #36, há o casamento de Francisco Travassos, 
> filho de Barnabé Travassos e sua segunda esposa Maria Dias, com Luzia 
> Carvalho filha de João Roiz Pavão e Águeda Carvalho.
> 
> Filhos batizados na Candelária, tidos com Mécia de Sousa:
> . Ana, n. 29.6.1612 - CCA #34. Filha de Barnabel (sic) Travassos e Mécia de 
> Sousa, foi madrinha Maria Gonçalves.
> . Inês, n. 24.2.1614 - CCA #36. Pd: Domingos Martins e Maria da Costa.
> . Águeda, n. 25.4.1616 - CCA #37. Pd: Francisco da Costa e Maria Roiz.
> . Isabel, n. 13.2.1618 - CCA #39. Pd: Amador Dias e Isabel da Costa.
> . Maria, n. 23.5.1619 - CCA #40. Pd: Belchior Roiz e sua filha Maria da Costa.
> . Margarida, n. 31.5.1623 - CCA #49. Pd: Pedro Velho e Águeda Roiz (Obs.: 
> Águeda Roiz e Manuel da Fonseca são filhos de Isabel da Fonseca e foram 
> padrinhos de batismo de Maria, filha de Pedro Roiz e Isabel Moreira, batizada 
> na Candelária em 27.4.1630 - CCA #63. João Roiz e Ana da Fonseca também são 
> filhos de Isabel da Fonseca, viúva, e foram padrinhos de batismo de Bárbara 
> na Candelária em 28.10.1630 - CCA #64, filha de Francisco Fernandes e 
> Catarina Gonçalves).
> . Nicolau, n. 4.12.1624 - CCA #53. Pd: Pedro da Fonseca e Catarina Carvalho 
> mulher de Pedro Velho.
> 
> Filhos batizados na Candelária, tidos com Maria Dias:
> Francisco, n. 4.3.1642 - CCA #91. Pd: Sebastião Velho Ferreira e Beatriz 
> Ferreira, sua filha.
> 
> . Candelária, 18.1.1627 - CCA #58, Barnabé Travassos foi padrinho de batismo 
> de Amaro filho de Antonio Marreiros e Maria de Teve. Foi madrinha Catarina 
> Gonçalves mulher de Antonio de Benevides.
> . Idem, 2.3.1627 - CCA #59, Barnabé Travassos foi padrinho de batismo de 
> Antonio filho de Pedro Gonçalves Borralho e Catarina Fernandes. Foi madrinha 
> Maria de Benevides filha de Isabel Marreiros.
> . Idem, 14.10.1630 - CCA #64, Manuel Travassos filho de Barnabé Travassos foi 
> padrinho de batismo de Calixto filho de Antonio Marreiro e Maria de Teve. Foi 
> madrinha Catarina Ferreira mulher de Francisco da Costa [Pavão].
> . Idem, 30.11.1630 - CCA #65, Barnabé Travassos e sua filha Ana de Sousa 
> foram padrinhos de batismo de André filho de Pedro Roiz e Margarida Gonçalves.
> . Idem, 29.7.1631 - CCA #66, Barnabé Travassos foi padrinho de batismo de 
> Bárbara filha de Sebastião Gomes e Maria Viana. Foi madrinha Isabel de 
> Oliveira mulher de Pedro Gonçalves.
> 
> 
> 
> Sobre os padrinhos de batismo:
> 
> RR - cap. 53, 7 - DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE JOÃO GONÇALVES FERREIRA
> 2 - Pedro Gonçalves Ferreira (do § 1.º), casou com Francisca Velho Falcão 
> (Cap.º 33.º § 2.º, N.º 5).
> Tiveram:
> 3 - João Velho, que morreu na Ilha de Santiago, de Cabo Verde.
> 3 - Manuel Ferreira, que morreu na Relva, em cuja Igreja de Nossa Senhora das 
> Neves está sepultado.
> 3 - Diogo Velho, que segue:
> 3 - Leonor Velha (Nota N.º 20), casou com Diogo Gonçalves, morador na Relva.
> 3 - Diogo Velho, morador na Relva e casou com Maria Dias, filha de Sebastião 
> Gonçalves (Frutuoso, Livro IV Cap.º III, § XLVII).
> Tiveram:
> 4 - Pedro Velho, que segue:
> 4 - Pedro Velho, da Relva, casou em Candelária, a 28.3.1622 com Catarina 
> Carvalho (Cap.º 281.º § Único, N.º 3).
> 
> -
> RR - cap. 39, 1 - DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE AFONSO RODRIGUES PAVÃO
> 8 - Simão Rodrigues Pavão, que casou na Candelária a 4.2.1665, com Maria 
> Travassos, filho de Barnabé Travassos e Maria Dias (Nota N.º 6).
> Notas:
> 6) Simão Rodrigues Pavão (N.º 8 § 1.º)
> Seu sogro, Barnabé Travassos juntamente com sua filha (dele Barnabé) Águeda 
> Travassos, a 10.2.1640, em Ponta Delgada queixaram-se e apresentaram querela 
> no Juízo de Fora de Ponta Delgada contra Manuel da Fonseca Falcão , morador 
> em Candelária, seu 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

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Hi cousin Manoel,

I thought we might be related since we were researching the same villages. Once 
you go back to the time of the early settlers, it is easier to make connections.

I am a descendant of their daughter Margarida who married Antonio Gonçalves in 
Candelaria May 2, 1652.


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> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:04 PM, mances  wrote:
> 
> Altino,
> 
> Barnabé Travassos and Mécia de Sousa are my ancestors too. I descend from 
> their daughter Isabel de Sousa who married Manuel Diniz in Candelária on 13 
> apr 1643 - CCA #55.
> 
> Manoel César Furtado
> 
> Em sábado, 2 de abril de 2016 16:51:51 UTC-3, Altino escreveu:
>> 
>> Sandra, I have a Nicolau de Sous married to Maria Carvalho in 1659 in 
>> Candelaria, Sao Miguel.
>> He is the son of Barnabé Travassos and Mecia de Sousa. (I think your Tavalos 
>> is really Travassos).  Barnabé is my 10th great grandfather.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Sandra Perez  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have Sebastiao Travalos married to Margarida de Sousa Azevedo (no 
>>> marriage found yet).  They had several children.  The first child I found 
>>> was Maria
>>> b. 21 Sep 1688 in Rosto de Cao, Sao Roque.  Her marriage is the only record 
>>> where I found the Name AZEVEDO attached to Margarida.  They had a 
>>> son,Nicolau de Sousa ( my 5th g-grandfather).  Margarida also had a brother 
>>> named Nicolau de Sousa.  I have always thought that Margarida's father was 
>>> a Nicolau de Sousa. I found some info on RR that believe may be Sebastiao 
>>> and Margarida.
>>> 
>>> Maria's marriage to Antonio Ferreira 1 Jun 1713--top left.
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732_item1/P23.html
>>> 
>>> Margarida's brother, Nicolau de Sousa's death record mentions his 
>>> brother-in-law, Sebastiao Travalos--top left.
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754_item1/P25.html
>>> 
>>> Passage from RR:
>>> 2)   Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo (N.º 4 § 1.º)
>>> 
>>> A 6.4.1742 habilitou-se ao legado de Tomé Alvares de Azevedo na 
>>> Misericórdia de Ponta Delgada Antónia de Sousa, filha de Manuel de Sousa, 
>>> moradores em Rosto de Cão demonstrando o seguinte: que a dita habilitada e 
>>> sua irmã Maria Sousa, casada com António de Sousa e já habilitada em 1738 
>>> como parenta em 6.º grau do instituidor eram filhas de Manuel de Sousa e 
>>> sua mulher Isabel de Sousa, o qual Manuel de Sousa era filho de António 
>>> Correia e de sua mulher Maria de Sousa ou Leda já habilitada em 1654 e 
>>> filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo, morador em Rosto de Cão filho de 
>>> Francisco Lopes Ribeiro e de Ana de Sousa, esta última por seu turno filha 
>>> de Maria de Azevedo, irmã de Filipa Marques, mãe do instituidor.
>>> 
>>> Também aparece como filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo Margarida de Sousa 
>>> que se habilita em 1684 e já prometida em casamento com Sebastião Travassos 
>>> filho de Manuel Travassos morador à Calheta de Ponta Delgada. Os atrás 
>>> citados António Correia e Maria de Sousa são pais de Lourenço de Sousa, 
>>> morador em Rosto de Cão que do seu casamento com Josefa de Almeida tiveram 
>>> uma filha Maria de Sousa que em 1734 se habilitou ao referido legado.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I put in translator website but it was very confusing.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Travassos vs Travalos

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Sandra, I have a Nicolau de Sous married to Maria Carvalho in 1659 in 
Candelaria, Sao Miguel.
He is the son of Barnabé Travassos and Mecia de Sousa. (I think your Tavalos is 
really Travassos).  Barnabé is my 10th great grandfather.


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> On Apr 2, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Sandra Perez  wrote:
> 
> I have Sebastiao Travalos married to Margarida de Sousa Azevedo (no marriage 
> found yet).  They had several children.  The first child I found was Maria
> b. 21 Sep 1688 in Rosto de Cao, Sao Roque.  Her marriage is the only record 
> where I found the Name AZEVEDO attached to Margarida.  They had a son,Nicolau 
> de Sousa ( my 5th g-grandfather).  Margarida also had a brother named Nicolau 
> de Sousa.  I have always thought that Margarida's father was a Nicolau de 
> Sousa. I found some info on RR that believe may be Sebastiao and Margarida.
> 
> Maria's marriage to Antonio Ferreira 1 Jun 1713--top left.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1707-1732_item1/P23.html
> 
> Margarida's brother, Nicolau de Sousa's death record mentions his 
> brother-in-law, Sebastiao Travalos--top left.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-O-1704-1754_item1/P25.html
> 
> Passage from RR:
> 2)   Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo (N.º 4 § 1.º)
> 
> A 6.4.1742 habilitou-se ao legado de Tomé Alvares de Azevedo na Misericórdia 
> de Ponta Delgada Antónia de Sousa, filha de Manuel de Sousa, moradores em 
> Rosto de Cão demonstrando o seguinte: que a dita habilitada e sua irmã Maria 
> Sousa, casada com António de Sousa e já habilitada em 1738 como parenta em 
> 6.º grau do instituidor eram filhas de Manuel de Sousa e sua mulher Isabel de 
> Sousa, o qual Manuel de Sousa era filho de António Correia e de sua mulher 
> Maria de Sousa ou Leda já habilitada em 1654 e filha de Nicolau de Sousa 
> Azevedo, morador em Rosto de Cão filho de Francisco Lopes Ribeiro e de Ana de 
> Sousa, esta última por seu turno filha de Maria de Azevedo, irmã de Filipa 
> Marques, mãe do instituidor.
> 
> Também aparece como filha de Nicolau de Sousa Azevedo Margarida de Sousa que 
> se habilita em 1684 e já prometida em casamento com Sebastião Travassos filho 
> de Manuel Travassos morador à Calheta de Ponta Delgada. Os atrás citados 
> António Correia e Maria de Sousa são pais de Lourenço de Sousa, morador em 
> Rosto de Cão que do seu casamento com Josefa de Almeida tiveram uma filha 
> Maria de Sousa que em 1734 se habilitou ao referido legado.
> 
>  
> 
> I put in translator website but it was very confusing.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:44 PM, mances  wrote:
>> You're right. And I wonder ... I think all of us descend from the Travassos 
>> line of São Miguel.
>> 
>> Manoel
>> 
>> Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 22:18:08 UTC-3, Mara escreveu:
>>> 
>>> Hi and if I may ad regarding original spelling some priests used the soft 
>>> "C" or single "S" instead of the double SS.  Travacos, Travasos i/o 
>>> Travassos. We should take a look at the original.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:55 PM, mances  wrote:
 Sandra,
 
 There's no Travalos in portuguese. My mother language is portuguese and I 
 have never seen this word.
 
 Manoel
 
 
 Em sexta-feira, 1 de abril de 2016 20:19:09 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
> 
> Are theses names interchangable?
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] trans help

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Elizabeth, she died at the age of 57.
Her parents were Joaquim José Eames and her mother was Maria Rosa.

Altino

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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1885-1897/FAL-HT-CEDROS-O-1885-1897_item1/P68.html
> 
> Hi
> Can someone translate top left.  It is continued but the first part says Anna 
> Clara with husband Manuel Silveira Santa.
> But does this say how old she was? 
> can you tell her father's last name???  Joaquim Jose ???
> 
> Thx
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of faint document

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Suzanne, the first date is the correct date for the middle record; 28 Nov 1697.

This marriage is from Santa Amaro, Pico island
Dominos Nunes, son of Domingos Nunes and Maria de Terra (you should get a secon 
opinion on Terra)
To
Maria Cardosa, daughter of Francisco Viera/Vieira Valim and Maria Cardosa.
I think they are fro Funchal?

The others are from this parish.

The record underneath isn't a footnote but a different marriage record that 
continues on the next page.

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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-C-1637-1697/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-C-1637-1697_item1/P42.html
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> (bottom right side of page)  
> 
> Hello.  Can someone please read and tell me what the above marriage document 
> is saying. 
> 
> The middle marriage belongs to my friend's family and gives a marriage date 
> of 28 Nov 1696.  Uminho (Cit-Cem)  says the marriage is 7 Jan 1697. She'd 
> like to know which is correct, and if this paragraph under the document is a 
> correction, and if so, why?
> 
> Thank you.
> Suzanne
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with names and date: Pico baptism

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I agree that the mother's name is Agueda, but the "da" in front of the last 
part is throwing me off. I wonder if the "Rosa" might be something else. 
(Because if her name is a two part name like Maria Jose, for example, i think 
it is odd. So what I propose is that the surname could be Sousa or something a 
bit harder to make out.

I think It would be a good idea to get more opinions.

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> I see the father's name, but can't figure out the mother's name, date of 
> birth and godfathers.
> 
> The record for Amaro, bottom left:
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sharing a Drobox folder. See link attached.

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Al, try this link. It should give you all the instructions you need.
If you are working from a PC, you will probably need to login to your Dropbox 
account and go through the steps.
If you are working from a Mac, the steps are different because you can probably 
do it from your computer.
In either case, the link below will give you step by step instructions.
How do I share folders with other people? (Dropbox Help Center)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Dropbox question

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Al, they would have to have Dropbox installed as well. Once they do, you would 
be able to right click on the folder containing your file and share it with 
one of your contacts. That person would receive an email saying that Al want 
to share a folder, accept or not.

If you google share Dropbox folders on YouTube, I'm sure there would be a video 
to take you through step by step visually.

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 I have downloaded and installed Dropbox on my system. I have copied and 
 pasted my Family file to the dropbox. I have a homegroup. How do I get my 
 relative into the home group?  A better question is how can my relative 
 access this file? 
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sending my file to a relative

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Al, you should use a Dropbox. It's free and pretty easy to use. If the person 
who you are sending the file to has an email account, it allows you to share a 
folder online between the two of you.

Dropbox is free up to a certain amount of storage.

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 I am trying to send my family file to a relative and it about 51.5 MB. A.O.l 
 will only let me send 25 mb. Is there a way I can do this on-line. I know I 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA's new family trees (Gedcom) is up

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I wonder if it could be due to how FTM wrote the Gedcom.

When I write a surname into my program I try to avoid the issue of screwing up 
the surname by entering the d' or de, do etc on the first line name.

For example...

I enter José de on the Given name of the FTM program.
And Paiva on the surname.

I wonder if by entering de on the middle name section is what is causing it 
not to match.

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 Hi Cheri,
 
 I have the issue of not connecting due to spellings I guess. I have tied in 
 with Altino and Rick, among many others on the list, and they do not show up 
 as connections. Any suggestions?
 
 Denise D'Antona
 
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 Mary B,
 
 Yes, keep on playing and making a list of things.  You got double first 
 names and I got the middle name dropped.
 
 As a beta tester, I reported the José showing up as José.  I sent it to 
 them both as ANSI and ANSEL.  Just add it to your list of things that you 
 found with the trees
 
 Yes, your mom doesn't show as a link because you ended with her on that 
 Gedcom.
 
 I had my mom's DNA kit listed as H. Louise.  In my Gedcom, she is Helen 
 Louise.  That is why it wouldn't link her.  I had to change it.  So if have 
 Joe Mello and you have him as Jose de Melo, with the same birth and 
 everything, it may not show the link.  Altino's my dad's 2nd cousin, but I 
 have the surname as Mello and I think he has it as Demelo, so it won't show 
 Altino as a link.  This is a problem.  Ugh.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage record - Gineties, Sao Miguel

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Lee, this couple is my 6th times grandparents on my maternal side.

Manuel Cabral's parents were Manuel Cabral and Ana Martins married in Feteiras 
on 16 Nov 1710.

Maria de Medeiros' parents are João Moreira and Ana Vasconcelos.

Manuel Cabral (sr) - his parents were Manuel Cabral and Maria de Sousa
Ana Martins parents were Pedro Martins Viera and Luzia Correia

Hope this helps

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 Could someone please help with the marriage records of Manoel Cabral and 
 Marie De Mederios (left page)?
  
 I know the date is February 23, 1737.
  
 Manoel Cabral was the son of Manoel Cabral (deceased) and Anna Martins.
  
 I can see that  Manoel's family was from Feteira - cannot read the name of 
 the parish though.
  
 Maria de Medeiros was the daughter of Joam Medeiros and Anna de Concellos?? - 
 I cannot read the name of fregusia where they are from but I can se Ginetes 
 for the Lugar.
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746_item1/P115.html
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage record - Gineties, Sao Miguel

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Lee, Manuel Cabral and Ana Martins marriage can be found in Feteiras, right 
here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1694-1738/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1694-1738_item1/P29.html




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Lee, this couple is my 6th times grandparents on my maternal side.

Manuel Cabral's parents were Manuel Cabral and Ana Martins married in Feteiras 
on 16 Nov 1710.

Maria de Medeiros' parents are João Moreira and Ana Vasconcelos.

Manuel Cabral (sr) - his parents were Manuel Cabral and Maria de Sousa
Ana Martins parents were Pedro Martins Viera and Luzia Correia

Hope this helps

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Could someone please help with the marriage records of Manoel Cabral and Marie 
De Mederios (left page)?
 
I know the date is February 23, 1737.
 
Manoel Cabral was the son of Manoel Cabral (deceased) and Anna Martins.
 
I can see that  Manoel's family was from Feteira - cannot read the name of the 
parish though.
 
Maria de Medeiros was the daughter of Joam Medeiros and Anna de Concellos?? - 
Icannot read the name of fregusia where they are from but I can se Ginetes for 
the Lugar.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746_item1/P115.html
 
Any and all help with the above greatly appreciated.
 
Lee Estep, 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage record - Gineties, Sao Miguel

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Lee, Manuel Cabral's marriage to Maria de Sousa can be found in Feterias on 28 
October 1676 in Feteiras here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693_item1/P57.html


Manuel's parents are Pero Cabral and Maria Alves
Maria de Sousa's parents are André d'Aguiar and Beatriz Fernandes


On Sunday, September 7, 2014 5:29 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy 
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Lee, Manuel Cabral and Ana Martins marriage can be found in Feteiras, right 
here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1694-1738/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1694-1738_item1/P29.html




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Lee, this couple is my 6th times grandparents on my maternal side.

Manuel Cabral's parents were Manuel Cabral and Ana Martins married in Feteiras 
on 16 Nov 1710.

Maria de Medeiros' parents are João Moreira and Ana Vasconcelos.

Manuel Cabral (sr) - his parents were Manuel Cabral and Maria de Sousa
Ana Martins parents were Pedro Martins Viera and Luzia Correia

Hope this helps

Sent from my iPad

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Could someone please help with the marriage records of Manoel Cabral and Marie 
De Mederios (left page)?
 
I know the date is February 23, 1737.
 
Manoel Cabral was the son of Manoel Cabral (deceased) and Anna Martins.
 
I can see that  Manoel's family was from Feteira - cannot read the name of the 
parish though.
 
Maria de Medeiros was the daughter of Joam Medeiros and Anna de Concellos?? - 
Icannot read the name of fregusia where they are from but I can se Ginetes for 
the Lugar.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746_item1/P115.html
 
Any and all help with the above greatly appreciated.
 
Lee Estep, 
Oak Hill WV
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage record - Gineties, Sao Miguel

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Hi Lee,

Pedro Martins Viera's marriage to Luzia Carreiro can be found 06 Feb 1692 in 
Feteiras here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693_item1/P76.html


Pedro is the son of Pedro Martins (Turcogar—i don't know what this profession 
means or if this is an alcunha) and Ana de Sá. 
Luzia is the daughter of Manuel da Costa (Tanoeiro—I don't know what this 
profession means or if this is an alcunha) and Maria Pavoas

Perhaps someone can help with translation of these professions.


On Sunday, September 7, 2014 5:41 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:
 


Lee, Manuel Cabral's marriage to Maria de Sousa can be found in Feterias on 28 
October 1676 in Feteiras here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693_item1/P57.html


Manuel's parents are Pero Cabral and Maria Alves
Maria de Sousa's parents are André d'Aguiar and Beatriz Fernandes


On Sunday, September 7, 2014 5:29 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:
 


Lee, Manuel Cabral and Ana Martins marriage can be found in Feteiras, right 
here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1694-1738/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1694-1738_item1/P29.html




On Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:50 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy 
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Lee, this couple is my 6th times grandparents on my maternal side.

Manuel Cabral's parents were Manuel Cabral and Ana Martins married in Feteiras 
on 16 Nov 1710.

Maria de Medeiros' parents are João Moreira and Ana Vasconcelos.

Manuel Cabral (sr) - his parents were Manuel Cabral and Maria de Sousa
Ana Martins parents were Pedro Martins Viera and Luzia Correia

Hope this helps

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 6, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:


Could someone please help with the marriage records of Manoel Cabral and Marie 
De Mederios (left page)?
 
I know the date is February 23, 1737.
 
Manoel Cabral was the son of Manoel Cabral (deceased) and Anna Martins.
 
I can see that  Manoel's family was from Feteira - cannot read the name of the 
parish though.
 
Maria de Medeiros was the daughter of Joam Medeiros and Anna de Concellos?? - 
Icannot read the name of fregusia where they are from but I can se Ginetes for 
the Lugar.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746_item1/P115.html
 
Any and all help with the above greatly appreciated.
 
Lee Estep, 
Oak Hill WV
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage record - Gineties, Sao Miguel

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Lee, Manuel da Costa's married Maria Pavoas 28 March 1662. That Marriage can be 
found in Feteiras, here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693_item1/P47.html


Manuel's parents are Manuel da Costa and Maria Almeida
Maria Pavoas' parents are Sebastião da Costa and Maria de Pavoas


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Hi Lee,

Pedro Martins Viera's marriage to Luzia Carreiro can be found 06 Feb 1692 in 
Feteiras here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693_item1/P76.html


Pedro is the son of Pedro Martins (Turcogar—i don't know what this profession 
means or if this is an alcunha) and Ana de Sá. 
Luzia is the daughter of Manuel da Costa (Tanoeiro—I don't know what this 
profession means or if this is an alcunha) and Maria Pavoas

Perhaps someone can help with translation of these professions.


On Sunday, September 7, 2014 5:41 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:
 


Lee, Manuel Cabral's marriage to Maria de Sousa can be found in Feterias on 28 
October 1676 in Feteiras here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693_item1/P57.html


Manuel's parents are Pero Cabral and Maria Alves
Maria de Sousa's parents are André d'Aguiar and Beatriz Fernandes


On Sunday, September 7, 2014 5:29 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:
 


Lee, Manuel Cabral and Ana Martins marriage can be found in Feteiras, right 
here:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1694-1738/SMG-PD-FETEIRAS-C-1694-1738_item1/P29.html




On Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:50 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:
 


Lee, this couple is my 6th times grandparents on my maternal side.

Manuel Cabral's parents were Manuel Cabral and Ana Martins married in Feteiras 
on 16 Nov 1710.

Maria de Medeiros' parents are João Moreira and Ana Vasconcelos.

Manuel Cabral (sr) - his parents were Manuel Cabral and Maria de Sousa
Ana Martins parents were Pedro Martins Viera and Luzia Correia

Hope this helps

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 6, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:


Could someone please help with the marriage records of Manoel Cabral and Marie 
De Mederios (left page)?
 
I know the date is February 23, 1737.
 
Manoel Cabral was the son of Manoel Cabral (deceased) and Anna Martins.
 
I can see that  Manoel's family was from Feteira - cannot read the name of the 
parish though.
 
Maria de Medeiros was the daughter of Joam Medeiros and Anna de Concellos?? - 
Icannot read the name of fregusia where they are from but I can se Ginetes for 
the Lugar.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1713-1746_item1/P115.html
 
Any and all help with the above greatly appreciated.
 
Lee Estep, 
Oak Hill WV
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage record - Gineties, Sao Miguel

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Thanks Manoel!


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Altino,

It's tanoeiro, cooper.

Manoel


Em domingo, 7 de setembro de 2014 19h00min35s UTC-3, Altino  escreveu:
Hi Lee,


Pedro Martins Viera's marriage to Luzia Carreiro can be found 06 Feb 1692 in 
Feteiras here:
http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- 
PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693/SMG- PD-FETEIRAS-C-1621-1693_item1/ P76.html



Pedro is the son of Pedro Martins (Turcogar—i don't know what this profession 
means or if this is an alcunha) and Ana de Sá. 
Luzia is the daughter of Manuel da Costa (Tanoeiro—I don't know what this 
profession means or if this is an alcunha) and Maria Pavoas


Perhaps someone can help with translation of these professions.





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading passport entry (Raposo/Mosteiros) please

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The Varzea is an area in São Miguel John. It is located somewhere between 
Ginetes and Mosteiros.

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 On Jul 1, 2014, at 8:57 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, it says Francisco Raposo was widow of Maria da Conceicao who was buried 
 in Varzea. Unless Mosteiros has an area called Varzea, it must be in Brazil.
 
 JR
 
 On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:53:28 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote:
 An added note:
 I decided to take a look at Mosteiros today.  I found Francisco Raposo and 
 Maria Emilia's marriage record.  It does confirm that Francisco was a Pai 
 Incognito.  He was also a widow.
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1880-1889_item1/P5.html
 
 I learned from my cousin that the connection is from oral history.  I am not 
 convinced that Manoel Raposo m. Maria Albina is Francisco's brother.  
 Cousin, maybe.I think the family may be taking the family story and 
 looking at the records and saying Manoel had a brother.  The brother worked 
 on the same plantation, therefore, this Raposo must be his brother.  I will 
 see if they have more information that can establish some sort of 
 connection.  But even with the marriage record the mother is given as Maria 
 Jacinta.  Manoel Raposo's mother is supposed to be Maria Albina (his wife is 
 named the same).
 
 Let's see if the family comes up with anything... Thanks!
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage translation for Antonio Botelho de mello and Maria Medeiros Tavares

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Sheri,

Antonio's father is Alexandre de Viveiros.

Maria's parents are Manuel de Sousa Medeiros and his wife Maria Cabral.


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 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-C-1729-1769/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-C-1729-1769_item1/P22.html
 
  
 
 Needing help with translation.  The record is for Antonio Botelho de Mello 
 and Maria MedeirosTavares.  It looks like Antonio's father is Alexander de ? 
 and the mother Maria de Viveiros Boetlho.  Maria Medeiros Tavares father is 
 Manuel de ? Medeiros and mother is Maria ?
 
 Thank you again for helping me with my translations.
 Sheri
  
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)

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Cheri, that could be a misspelling of the surname Pacheco.

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 On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From Insulana, book LVIII, 2001, page 220 (This book has a typed index of 
 Ribeira Quente marriages).
 
 15 Dec 1856
 Groom: Francisco Furtado, son of Manoel Furtado Pechejo (?) and his wife 
 Ursula da Estrella 
 Bride: Maria Jacintha, daughter of Francisco de Arruda (dead) and Jacintha de 
 Jesus.
 
 Here's the image from the CCA:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-C-1833-1860/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-C-1833-1860_item1/P78.html
 
 That Pechejo must be some kind of alcunha (nickname).
 
 I've got those surnames in Ribeira Quente (RQ), but not as direct 
 descendants.  You'll probably tie into one of my lines in 1-2 more 
 generations.  
 
 Cheri Mello
 
 
 
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 Hi all.  I’m looking to see if anyone has any information on my great 
 grandmother’s ancestry.  
 
 Here is her information:  Júlia da Encarnaçao b. 22 Mar 1862 at Ribeira 
 Quente to Francisco Furtado and Maria Jacinta;  m. Jose da Costa 24 Jan 
 1889, Matriz  (Note:  I have Jose’s ancestry.  I’m just looking for 
 Julia’s).  Thanks for any help you can offer!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)

[Altino Demelo]

Yes, I would definitely say Pacheco. 

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 On Mar 29, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's what I thought when I saw it typed,(I didn't introduce that question 
 mark but copied it out of the book). Take a look at at the original.  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-C-1833-1860/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-C-1833-1860_item1/P78.html
 Right side, 8 lines from the bottom or so.
 Cheri
 
 
 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Altino Demelo demelo.alt...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 Cheri, that could be a misspelling of the surname Pacheco.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 From Insulana, book LVIII, 2001, page 220 (This book has a typed index of 
 Ribeira Quente marriages).
 
 15 Dec 1856
 Groom: Francisco Furtado, son of Manoel Furtado Pechejo (?) and his wife 
 Ursula da Estrella 
 Bride: Maria Jacintha, daughter of Francisco de Arruda (dead) and Jacintha 
 de Jesus.
 
 Here's the image from the CCA:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-C-1833-1860/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-C-1833-1860_item1/P78.html
 
 That Pechejo must be some kind of alcunha (nickname).
 
 I've got those surnames in Ribeira Quente (RQ), but not as direct 
 descendants.  You'll probably tie into one of my lines in 1-2 more 
 generations.  
 
 Cheri Mello
 
 
 
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 wrote:
 Hi all.  I’m looking to see if anyone has any information on my great 
 grandmother’s ancestry.  
 
 Here is her information:  Júlia da Encarnaçao b. 22 Mar 1862 at Ribeira 
 Quente to Francisco Furtado and Maria Jacinta;  m. Jose da Costa 24 Jan 
 1889, Matriz  (Note:  I have Jose’s ancestry.  I’m just looking for 
 Julia’s).  Thanks for any help you can offer!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading a death record

[Altino Demelo]

Fred, I get Simão Gonçalves.. That abbreviation you mentioned with the G is 
correct.

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 I thought the last name of my 10th ggf was Simao Fernandez but I noticed a 
 letter g in front of what I thought was a Fz or Frz. Could the abbrevation 
 be glz for Gonzalves? But why would they put a line across the l?
 
 Record is on the left side, halfway down:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-O-1625-1717/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-O-1625-1717_item1/P4.html
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record -- can't really read it) Help!

[Altino Demelo]

Shirley, you just have an extra Z at the tail end of the URL.

If you remove it the URL should work.

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 On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net 
 wrote:
 
 I tried to open that file, but I got the following message:
 404 File or directory not found.
 
 Shirley in CA
 
 - Original Message - From: Joseph Costa jwcosta0...@gmail.com
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joam da Costa (Might be his birth record --  
 can't really read it) Help!
 
 
 Hi.  I actually found him this afternoon: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1743-1750_item1/P139.htmlz
 
 Thank you for your offer to help!
 
 
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 Joseph, perhaps we've been working from the wrong perspective on this 
 problem. Do you have info on Joam that you can share with us? If not, 
 whomever the ancestor that you've traced furthest back w/ most info. Several 
 of us in this group have been researching Ponta Garca  VFdC for a long time 
 - one of us must have the person you're looking for.
 
 On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:45:13 PM UTC-4, Joseph Costa wrote:
 I think I may have found my 4th great grandfather's,  Joam da Costa's, birth 
 record, but I'm not sure.  Per my previous post,  he is the son of Matheus 
 da Costa and Jozefa Pacheco (also appears as Pachequa or Pacheca). Can 
 anyone read this.  In the link below, it's on the right-hand page in the 
 lower right corner.  Looks like this is from Sept 1751?  I need help 
 verifying that these are in fact the names of the parents on this record. 
 What about grandparents' names?  Anyone see those?
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1751-1758_item1/P23.html
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo

[Altino Demelo]

Thanks for those Cheri.

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 Um, the link to Amaro SAYS Sao Miguel Arcanjo, but it took me to Achada!  I 
 hate Windows 8 (so I'll just blame that).
 
 Here's Amaro's death:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, 
 etc)
 
 I found the deaths
 
 Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right)
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html
 
 Vicencia de Pimentel, b. 1745, d.1815 (death upper left)
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P126.html
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing

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Leaving Yorkdale. Construction around here, so he had to take a detour.

:(

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 Great. Thank you
  
 Marcio Borba 
 Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com
 
 
 Em Sábado, 15 de Fevereiro de 2014 11:44, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com 
 escreveu:
 Marcio,
 
 You have 50% of your parents, 25% of your grands, 12.5% of your greats, 6.25% 
 of your 2 greats, about 3% of your 3 greats...you get the picture.  Whether 
 or not they were incognitos doesn't matter.  You got their DNA.  
 
 You'll have to figure out the matches on your known lines first.  Leave the 
 incognitos for last.  They will take lots and lots of time.
 
 My dad has a prediction of 2nd cousins to a man who doesn't know his paternal 
 side at all.  My dad is probably his 3rd cousin.  It's been 2 or 3 years, but 
 I do know part of this man's line.  As more and more people test and we 
 identify the cousinship with some I can figure out the others and help this 
 guy.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting purple stuff on the pages

[Altino Demelo]

Looks like they might have used the paper as a blotter to get ink residue off 
their fingers.

:(

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 Thank goodness for color scans!
 
 What is this purple stuff on the pages?  http://goo.gl/Qi9m4i
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito

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DPaiva, Cheri, and I have Mello's from Ponta Garca too. It would be interesting 
to see if our lines connect. 

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 Ola, Ricardo, 
 You said the magic words [Mello/Santa Maria]. My Mello links, however, are 
 from Sao Pedro, and date back before much of the written records that still 
 exist. I was hoping to find some type of historic account that covers at 
 least the link-up period [1687]. My [Mellos] originally settled in Povoacao 
 before 1700, and relocated to Ponta Garca a short time later. Let me know if 
 you care to share notes.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New addition to family

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Congratulations Marcio

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 For those who have me in their tree I would like to announce the new addition 
 to the family, my daughter, Julia Rosa Estrela Borba, born Jan 9 2014, in 
 Oakville, Ontario, Canada.
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help translation, flamengos, fayal

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Moreno could also refer to skin colour. My mother has a darker olive skin 
complexion and refers to herself as Moreno. It's possible that the name became 
used as an alcuna.

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 Nancy,  there is nit document to refer to.I am researching Flamengos as 
 well.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas / Merry Christmas 2013 thread

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Merry Christmas to everyone. Best wishes for a peaceful New Year.

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 For those wishing to send Christmas greetings, please respond to this thread 
 only.  Don't start your own.  
 
 You can send your greetings until 12:01 a.m. YOUR time on Dec. 26th.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha record 1825

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I think it's Teresa Margarida

Altino


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 Can any on read the first name of the Paternal Grandmother on the 4th line 
 upper right entry  for Jacinto. I have everything else but just can’t figure 
 out what that name is.
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1821-1828/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1821-1828_item1/P88.html
  
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 Richard Francis Pimentel
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ginetes.....Salanca? Is it a name or a place?

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Terri, I tried google translate and my Portuguese English dictionary and 
couldn't find a translation for that word.

I have an Amaro Cardoso m. to Catarina de Carvalho (or Ferreira) [my 9th great 
grandparents]
No parents for him, but Catarina's parents were Gaspar de Carvalho and Isabel 
Ferreira.

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 I was searching on the CCA site for a death record for someone in my Ginetes 
 line.  I thought I had the right person but now I see another word/ name in 
 the documents after his name that makes me wonder. I have a marriage record 
 for Manuel de Sousa Carvalho x Anna da Estrella . But in the death record I 
 found, I read  'Manuel Carvalho Salanca' who was married to Anna de Estrella 
 .Sometimes I am seeing ' Lomba' after some names and I assume this is a place 
 but is there an area of Ginetes called ' Salanca?'   or could this be a last 
 name and maybe I have the wrong death record.
  
 Terri Santos
 researching Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca Sao Pedro and Sao 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Baptismal record - MIguelina Raposo (Martins)

[Altino Demelo]

Hi Lee

8th - 10th line says:
de Luiz Pereira, natural desta Parochial de Sao Se
bastião e de Maria Thereza natural da Porochial 
de Nossa Senhora da Luz da lugar dos Fanaes

of Luiz pereira, native of this parish of Saint Se
bastian and of Maria Thereza, native of the parish
of Our Lady of Light, from the area of Fenais.

(the parish is called Fenais da Luz. The municipality is Ponta Delgada)







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Thank you Altino!  Any idea as to where it says Luiz Pereira and his wife Maria 
Thereza are from?  I can read that - I can see Nossa Senhora and ?
 
Thanks again!

On Monday, October 14, 2013 1:35:54 AM UTC-4, Altino wrote:
Lee, she was born 8 Feb 1821 and baptized 18 Feb 1821
Francisco and Ana are the godparents. Both are the children of Antonio Martins 
and Joana dos Reis from Mosteiros.

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I finally found the baptismal record of Miguelina (right page) that I've been 
searching for all day:
 
http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- 
PD-GINETES-B-1819-1830/SMG-PD- GINETES-B-1819-1830_item1/P40. html
 
I have the following information: 
 
Miguelina, daughter of Jose Raposo Martins and Quiteria Maria
Jose is a native of Mosteiros and Quiteria of Ginetes
 
Paternal grandparents were Antonio Martins and Joanna do Reis natives of 
Mosteiros
Maternal grandparents were Luiz Pereira and Maria Thereza  (I cannot read 
what it says is for where they are from)
 
Also, further down in the record it mentions Joanna do Reis again and looks 
like it mentions another of Joanna's children - a godparent to Miguelina?
 
Also, unfortunately, I can't figure out the date of birth/baptism.
 
Any/all help greatly appreciated.
 
Lee
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with marriage record - Ginetes

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Lee, I saw your two posts. I think you mentioned that you had figured out what 
you were wondering about. 

Antonio Bernardo Raposo married Meguelina Thomasia in São Sebastião parish 
(Ginetes) on 26 Sept 1839.

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 I need some help with the marriage record below (on the left page).
  
 Antonio Bernardo Cabral (son of Bernardo Cabral .d Maria digo de Francisca 
 Maria
 con
 Michelina Thomazia Joaquina (daughter of Joze Rapozo Martens and Quiteria 
 Maria)
  
  
 I have the date as September 26, 1839; I have the a question regarding the 
 grooms parents names - I have them above as they are in the document - 
 confused by .d Mari digo Francisca Maria. 
  
 I also have a question about the wording after the brides mother of 
 Baptasdos?  Also, are both parties from Ginetes?  I have also seen that the 
 groom was born in Mosteiros.
  
 Any help/suggestions greatly appreciated.
  
 Lee
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1818-1849/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1818-1849_item1/P107.html
  
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help - Baptismal record - MIguelina Raposo (Martins)

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Lee, she was born 8 Feb 1821 and baptized 18 Feb 1821
Francisco and Ana are the godparents. Both are the children of Antonio Martins 
and Joana dos Reis from Mosteiros.

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 I finally found the baptismal record of Miguelina (right page) that I've been 
 searching for all day:
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1819-1830/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1819-1830_item1/P40.html
  
 I have the following information:
  
 Miguelina, daughter of Jose Raposo Martins and Quiteria Maria
 Jose is a native of Mosteiros and Quiteria of Ginetes
  
 Paternal grandparents were Antonio Martins and Joanna do Reis natives of 
 Mosteiros
 Maternal grandparents were Luiz Pereira and Maria Thereza  (I cannot read 
 what it says is for where they are from)
  
 Also, further down in the record it mentions Joanna do Reis again and looks 
 like it mentions another of Joanna's children - a godparent to Miguelina?
  
 Also, unfortunately, I can't figure out the date of birth/baptism.
  
 Any/all help greatly appreciated.
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Festival: New York celebrates the best of Portugal – NYC

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I tried the strawberry ones with a touch of balsamic. Deelish.

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 From: Portuguese American Journal 
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 Festival: New York celebrates the best of Portugal – NYC
 AICEP Portugal Global, Trade  Investment Agency is promoting the second 
 edition of the “Festival of Creativity, Culture and Business,” taking place 
 during the month of June in New York City. 
 More info.
 FESTIVAL PROGRAM
 
 JUNE 3 “Pan-European Days/Portugal” at NYSE, by Euronext NYSE and EACCNY, 
 www.eaccny.com
 
 JUNE 6 “Portuguese Wine Extravaganza”, at 67 Wine, www.67wine.com
 
 JUNE 10 “Portuguese Chefs”, at Louro Restaurant, by Portuguese Circle, 
 www.portuguesecircle.com
 
 JUNE 10 “Portuguese Tech Night”, by VentureOutNY, www.ventureoutny.com
 
 JUNE 10 “Portugal Day Celebration”, Nassau County, 
 www.facebook.com/NCPortugalDay
 
 JUNE 13/14 “Portugal Innovate with us”, at the NExt Expo, by AICEP, 
 www.northsidefestival.com/next
 
 JUNE 16 “Portugal Day NY @Central Park”, by Portuguese Circle, 
 www.portugaldaynyc.org
 
 JUNE 17 “Wines of Portugal Rootop Tasting” at Tavern 29, by Viniportugal, 
 www.winesofportugal.com
 
 JUNE 18 “Lecture by Alvaro Siza”, MoMA Titus 1 Theatre, by Architectural 
 League of NY, MoMA and AICEP, www.moma.org
 
 JUNE 22 “Vista Alegre Day”, Open House Showroom, at 41 Madison Av. 9th FI, 
 www.myvistaalegre.com
 
 JUNE 24 “Taste of Lisbon – join Esporão Wines on its 40th Anniversary”, at 
 the Delancey Rooftop, www.esporao.com
 
 JUNE 26 “Jewish Heritage and Portugal”, at the Spanish and Portuguese 
 Synagogue, www.shearithisrael.org
 
 JUNE 28 “PAPS – “Portuguese American Post Graduate Society”, at AICEP, 
 www.papsonline.com
 
 Passport to “Tastings of Vinho Verde” at 40 restaurants + wine shops 
 nationwide www.winesofvinhoverde.com
 
 Fairway Market “Sampling cheeses from the Azores Islands”, at all Fairway 
 Market/ NYC area, www.fairwaymarket.com
 
 Visit Portugal Contest on Facebook; win a trip to Portugal, by Portuguese 
 National Tourist Office, www.visitportugal.pt
 
 For further information log on to  Meet Portugal in New York 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Festival: New York celebrates the best of Portugal – NYC

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Sorry E, that last email was supposed to go to someone else.

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On 2013-06-05, at 8:06 PM, E. Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI if your lucky enough to be in New York on these dates. 
 E
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Portuguese American Journal 
 techsupp...@portuguese-american-journal.com
 
 Festival: New York celebrates the best of Portugal – NYC
 AICEP Portugal Global, Trade  Investment Agency is promoting the second 
 edition of the “Festival of Creativity, Culture and Business,” taking place 
 during the month of June in New York City. 
 More info.
 FESTIVAL PROGRAM
 
 JUNE 3 “Pan-European Days/Portugal” at NYSE, by Euronext NYSE and EACCNY, 
 www.eaccny.com
 
 JUNE 6 “Portuguese Wine Extravaganza”, at 67 Wine, www.67wine.com
 
 JUNE 10 “Portuguese Chefs”, at Louro Restaurant, by Portuguese Circle, 
 www.portuguesecircle.com
 
 JUNE 10 “Portuguese Tech Night”, by VentureOutNY, www.ventureoutny.com
 
 JUNE 10 “Portugal Day Celebration”, Nassau County, 
 www.facebook.com/NCPortugalDay
 
 JUNE 13/14 “Portugal Innovate with us”, at the NExt Expo, by AICEP, 
 www.northsidefestival.com/next
 
 JUNE 16 “Portugal Day NY @Central Park”, by Portuguese Circle, 
 www.portugaldaynyc.org
 
 JUNE 17 “Wines of Portugal Rootop Tasting” at Tavern 29, by Viniportugal, 
 www.winesofportugal.com
 
 JUNE 18 “Lecture by Alvaro Siza”, MoMA Titus 1 Theatre, by Architectural 
 League of NY, MoMA and AICEP, www.moma.org
 
 JUNE 22 “Vista Alegre Day”, Open House Showroom, at 41 Madison Av. 9th FI, 
 www.myvistaalegre.com
 
 JUNE 24 “Taste of Lisbon – join Esporão Wines on its 40th Anniversary”, at 
 the Delancey Rooftop, www.esporao.com
 
 JUNE 26 “Jewish Heritage and Portugal”, at the Spanish and Portuguese 
 Synagogue, www.shearithisrael.org
 
 JUNE 28 “PAPS – “Portuguese American Post Graduate Society”, at AICEP, 
 www.papsonline.com
 
 Passport to “Tastings of Vinho Verde” at 40 restaurants + wine shops 
 nationwide www.winesofvinhoverde.com
 
 Fairway Market “Sampling cheeses from the Azores Islands”, at all Fairway 
 Market/ NYC area, www.fairwaymarket.com
 
 Visit Portugal Contest on Facebook; win a trip to Portugal, by Portuguese 
 National Tourist Office, www.visitportugal.pt
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rapozo, Teixeira, Furtado, Cabral, Caldeira from Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel island

[Altino Demelo]

Hermano, José Raposo de Medeiros was born in Nordeste, São Miguel on 25 June 
1869. He was the son of Francisco Raposo de Medeiros and Flora de Jesus do Rego.

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 I am interested in a possible connection to Maria de Jesus Teixeira named in 
 your post.
  
 I have heard from family members in the past that my grandmother, Felicidade 
 Teixeira, was born to Manuel and Emilia Rosa Teixeira who were both from Agua 
 Retorta.  Felicidade's mother died when she was eight and her father sent her 
 to stay with her older sister, Rosa, in either Ponta Delgada or Agua Retorta. 
  Around 1900 Felicidade was 12 years old, and was sent to Massachussets stay 
 with another older sister, Maria.  I am told that Maria Teixeira went left 
 the Azores single and married a Portuguese man who owned (or possible only 
 worked at some kind of a factory).  I am furhter told that Maria and her 
 husband had only one child, a daughter. Felicidade stayed with her sister 
 Maria until she married Boaventura Pacheco Demello in Cambridge, MA in 1905.
 Do you know when Maria Teixeira immigrated?
 Do you know of any siblings of this Maria Teixeira?
 Did Jose Raposo own or work at a factory?
 Did Jose and Maria have only one child, a dauther?
  
 Thank you for any help.  I've been looking for some time to find a record of 
 the older sister Maria Teixeira that my great grandmother reportedly was sent 
 to stay with but have had not luck 
  
 Bill Seidler
  
 
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 Repost for Ria, nazdar2000 at gmail.com
 
 Hi Everybody, 
 I was reading the line of the Rapozo's . 
 My grandparents Jose Raposo was married to my grandmother Maria de 
 Jesus Teixeira. 
 Now my father's parents were from Agua Retorta their names have 
 Furtado as well as Cabral.also Caldeira. 
 All I know is that my grandparents from Agua Retorta got married in 
 Fall River Mass, not sure if this is the same Raposos 
 Ria
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rapozo, Teixeira, Furtado, Cabral, Caldeira from Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel island

[Altino Demelo]

Sorry, that was wrong.

He was the son of Francisco Raposo de Medeiros and Ana Julia de Conceição.

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 your post.
  
 I have heard from family members in the past that my grandmother, Felicidade 
 Teixeira, was born to Manuel and Emilia Rosa Teixeira who were both from Agua 
 Retorta.  Felicidade's mother died when she was eight and her father sent her 
 to stay with her older sister, Rosa, in either Ponta Delgada or Agua Retorta. 
  Around 1900 Felicidade was 12 years old, and was sent to Massachussets stay 
 with another older sister, Maria.  I am told that Maria Teixeira went left 
 the Azores single and married a Portuguese man who owned (or possible only 
 worked at some kind of a factory).  I am furhter told that Maria and her 
 husband had only one child, a daughter. Felicidade stayed with her sister 
 Maria until she married Boaventura Pacheco Demello in Cambridge, MA in 1905.
 Do you know when Maria Teixeira immigrated?
 Do you know of any siblings of this Maria Teixeira?
 Did Jose Raposo own or work at a factory?
 Did Jose and Maria have only one child, a dauther?
  
 Thank you for any help.  I've been looking for some time to find a record of 
 the older sister Maria Teixeira that my great grandmother reportedly was sent 
 to stay with but have had not luck 
  
 Bill Seidler
  
 
 On Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:49:32 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
 Repost for Ria, nazdar2000 at gmail.com
 
 Hi Everybody, 
 I was reading the line of the Rapozo's . 
 My grandparents Jose Raposo was married to my grandmother Maria de 
 Jesus Teixeira. 
 Now my father's parents were from Agua Retorta their names have 
 Furtado as well as Cabral.also Caldeira. 
 All I know is that my grandparents from Agua Retorta got married in 
 Fall River Mass, not sure if this is the same Raposos 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rapozo, Teixeira, Furtado, Cabral, Caldeira from Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel island

[Altino Demelo]

Hi Bill,

The couple that Ria first mentioned are josé Raposo de Medeiros and Rosa Amalia 
de Jesus Teixeira. I think Ria made a small error in that name and called her 
Maria de Jesus.

This couple is Ria's maternal grandparents.

Ria's paternal grandparents married in Fall River, but I'm unsure of their 
names. Ria had asked for advice in trying to hunt down that marriage in Fall 
River, but I don't know if she was successful or not.

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On 2013-04-30, at 3:25 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am interested in a possible connection to Maria de Jesus Teixeira named in 
 your post.
  
 I have heard from family members in the past that my grandmother, Felicidade 
 Teixeira, was born to Manuel and Emilia Rosa Teixeira who were both from Agua 
 Retorta.  Felicidade's mother died when she was eight and her father sent her 
 to stay with her older sister, Rosa, in either Ponta Delgada or Agua Retorta. 
  Around 1900 Felicidade was 12 years old, and was sent to Massachussets stay 
 with another older sister, Maria.  I am told that Maria Teixeira went left 
 the Azores single and married a Portuguese man who owned (or possible only 
 worked at some kind of a factory).  I am furhter told that Maria and her 
 husband had only one child, a daughter. Felicidade stayed with her sister 
 Maria until she married Boaventura Pacheco Demello in Cambridge, MA in 1905.
 Do you know when Maria Teixeira immigrated?
 Do you know of any siblings of this Maria Teixeira?
 Did Jose Raposo own or work at a factory?
 Did Jose and Maria have only one child, a dauther?
  
 Thank you for any help.  I've been looking for some time to find a record of 
 the older sister Maria Teixeira that my great grandmother reportedly was sent 
 to stay with but have had not luck 
  
 Bill Seidler
  
 
 On Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:49:32 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
 Repost for Ria, nazdar2000 at gmail.com
 
 Hi Everybody, 
 I was reading the line of the Rapozo's . 
 My grandparents Jose Raposo was married to my grandmother Maria de 
 Jesus Teixeira. 
 Now my father's parents were from Agua Retorta their names have 
 Furtado as well as Cabral.also Caldeira. 
 All I know is that my grandparents from Agua Retorta got married in 
 Fall River Mass, not sure if this is the same Raposos 
 Ria
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rapozo, Teixeira, Furtado, Cabral, Caldeira from Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel island

[Altino Demelo]

Hi Bill,

Ria is my cousin. The couple she mentioned are also my great grandparents.

I just needed to clarify some of the info about this couple though.

José Raposo de Medeiros was Married to Rosa Amalia de Jesus Teixeira. (m. 17 
Feb 1890 in São Jorge, Nordeste, São Miguel) both were born and baptized in 
this parish and village. 

They had the following children:
Ernesto, José, Manuel, Serafino, Jacintho, Maria da Luz, and Senhorinha.

Rosa Amalia never left the Azores. Jose Raposo was a businessman in Nordeste 
and had various businesses as well as operating and inn.

Rosa died after a long life, so i don't think this is your couple. Good luck 
with your search.



Altino



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To: azores@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:25:04 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rapozo, Teixeira, Furtado, Cabral, Caldeira 
from Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel island
 


I am interested in a possible connection to Maria de Jesus Teixeira named in 
your post.
 
I have heard from family members in the past that my grandmother, Felicidade 
Teixeira, was born to Manuel and Emilia Rosa Teixeira who were both from Agua 
Retorta.  Felicidade's mother died when she was eight and her father sent her 
to stay with her older sister, Rosa, in either Ponta Delgada or Agua Retorta.  
Around 1900 Felicidade was 12 years old, and was sent to Massachussets stay 
with another older sister, Maria.  I am told that Maria Teixeira went left the 
Azores single and married a Portuguese man who owned (or possible only worked 
at some kind of a factory).  I am furhter told that Maria and her husband had 
only one child, a daughter. Felicidade stayed with her sister Maria until she 
married Boaventura Pacheco Demello in Cambridge, MA in 1905.

Do you know when Maria Teixeira immigrated?
Do you know of any siblings of this Maria Teixeira?
Did Jose Raposo own or work at a factory?
Did Jose and Maria have only one child, a dauther?
 
Thank you for any help.  I've been looking for some time to find a record of 
the older sister Maria Teixeira that my great grandmother reportedly was sent 
to stay with but have had not luck  
 
Bill Seidler
 

On Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:49:32 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
Repost for Ria, nazdar2000 at gmail.com

Hi Everybody, 
I was reading the line of the
Rapozo's . 
My grandparents Jose Raposo was married to my grandmother Maria de 
Jesus Teixeira. 
Now my father's parents were from Agua Retorta their names have 
Furtado as well as Cabral.also Caldeira. 
All I know is that my grandparents from Agua Retorta got married in 
Fall River Mass, not sure if this is the same Raposos 
Ria 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help

[Altino Demelo]

Bill, i will give you the gist of this document.

This is the marriage document for Joaquim Teixeira and Maria de Pimentel.

On October 6 of 1810 at 9 in the morning in São Pedro, Nordestinho

Joaquim Teixieira, son of Manuel Teixeira and Marianna Pimentel married
Maria de Pimentel, daughter of Manuel Furtado Soares and Maria de Pimentel





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Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:54:05 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help
 

I just started back researching my father's family who  have roots in Sao 
Miguel. I found the attached document on CCA. I'd be very grateful if someone 
could please translate the document for me. It's the LEFT PAGE for a Joaquim 
Teixeira. 

Thank you,
Bill Tacherra
Researching: Sao Miguel. Surnames: Teixeira, Correia, Mello,Soares  Pimentell  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1783-1824/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1783-1824_item1/P172.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Botelho Port Formoso

[Altino Demelo]

Richard, I have Manuel Joaquim de Carvalho and Maria Filomena da Rocha in my 
tree too.

They are related to me through Maria Filomena who is my 3rd cousin 3X removed.

Her parents were Mariano Francisco da Rocha and Maria Henriqueta

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On 2013-04-08, at 3:53 PM, Richard  Francis Pimentel 
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 I just checked my Charts and I also descend from Violante Velho Cabral and 
 Diogo Gonsalves Travassos
  
  
 Diogo Gonsalves Travassos x Violante Velho Cabral
 Pedro Velho Cabral and his 1st wife
   Violante Velho x João Alvares Homem do Olho
Rui Velho de Travassos x Guiomar de Teves
 Rui Velho Ytavassos x Ana de Aguiar
  Domingas de Teves x Balrazar Simões
   Clara da Fonseca x Sebastião Álvares Benevides
Maria Travassos x José da Costa
 Francisco da Costa Travassos x Ana Viveiros
  António Viveiros Travassos x Maria de Araújo Vasconcelos
   José de Viveiros Miranda x Gertrudes dos Anjos 
José de Viveiros Miranda x Joana Maria da Estrela
 Maria Joaquina x José Oliveira
  Ana Joaquina x Jacinto Botelho Raposo
   Joaquina de Jesus x Jacinto Joaquim Carvalho
Manuel Joaquim Carvalho x Maria Filomeana Rocha
 Maria Josephine Carvalho x Manuel Pimentel
   Francis Richard Pimentel x Francis Brousseau
   Richard Francis Pimentel
  
 Rick
  
 Richard Francis Pimentel
 Spring, TX
 Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
  
 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
 Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
  
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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Botelho Port Formoso
  
 I have these people in my file. What do you need?
 
 I am lost can you send me an ancestor chart for Diogo Gonsalves de Travassos 
 and Violante Velho Cabral, that is where mine stops at.
  
 
 On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Celest that is her, I did not have it that far back. Thanks Manuel 
 thats who I thought her name could of been under, but his marriage to Luzia 
 clearly shows Catharina da Silva.
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help Getting Farther back on Primary Paternal line

[Altino Demelo]

I have a Pedro do Rego Baldaia in my tree. He married a great aunt of mine 
named Maria do Lima in São Pedro on 4 Dec 1623. Her parents were Gaspar 
Rodrigues Limpo and Maria de Lima.

Pedro and Maria had joão do Rego Baldaia who married Catarina Falcão  (Falcõa) .

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 This is how far I've gotten back. 
 
 Manuel do Rego Baldaia
 is your 8th great grandfather
 Manuel do Rego Baldaia
 son of Manuel do Rego Baldaia
 João do Rego Baldaia ( - 1767)
 son of Manuel do Rego Baldaia
 Manuel do Rego Baldaia
 son of João do Rego Baldaia
 Manuel do Rego Baldaia (1772 - )
 son of Manuel do Rego Baldaia
 Jose do Rego Baldaia (1794 - 1843)
 son of Manuel do Rego Baldaia
 Jose Do Rego Baldaia (1817 - )
 son of Jose do Rego Baldaia
 Jacinto do Rego Baldaia (1839 - 1910)
 son of Jose Do Rego Baldaia
 Francisco do Rego Baldaia (1882 - 1966)
 son of Jacinto do Rego Baldaia
 Joseph Rego Baldaia (1923 - 1975)
 son of Francisco do Rego Baldaia
 Peter Joseph Baldaia
 You are the son of Joseph Rego Baldaia - (not you?)
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles

[Altino Demelo]

Geneva, my suggestion is to copy and paste the Portuguese text from RR and 
paste it into the online Google translator for a rough translation.

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 Hello:
  
 When researching some of my family names I came across some titles that I 
 don't understand. There are family members that have the title of Senhor de 
 Azurara with 1 degree  or 2 or 3 or 4. What does this mean.
 thanks
 geneva
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles

[Altino Demelo]

Here is the url to google translate:

http://translate.google.ca/


Just copy and paste any portuguese text into the left pane and google translate 
will provide you with a translation within a few seconds.

I think the Senhor de Azurara is referring to the fact that this Cabral line 
were wealthy landowners of an area in Portugal called Azurara. So the 
translation would be Lord of Azurara. Hence, 2nd lord of Azurara etc etc. 
(See below)


The Cabral Family

               The Cabral family has always had a great influence and prestige 
in the municipality of Viseu by his patriotic feeling and strength in the face 
of national crises. This family refused to kiss the hand of Leonor Teles and 
thus recognize her as Queen of Portugal and [...] miss the landlord's land 
Azurara; later, as a pledge of dedication that Alcaide-Mor Guard Álvaro Gil 
Cabral, stated the independence of Portugal [...] Master of Avis, was when 
Regedor and defender of the realm, and finally, a descendant of the same Álvaro 
Gil Cabral lost as a result of the noble gesture that had to with Philip D. II 
of Spain 1. Though investigations, developed by Dr. Alexandre Alves latest not 
confirm the idea of the last land taken by the Crown.

          During the time of the monarchy Mangualde was never forgotten, 
because it is the land of the family of Pedro Álvares Cabral, because beyond 
discoverer of Brazil was Alcaide-Mor Village Azurara Beira.

         So the first time where Cabral Family highlights is its power during 
the crisis of 1383-85, always supporting the Master of Avis. The big defender 
was Álvaro Gil Cabral Alcaide-Mor Guard, grandfather Pedro Álvares Cabral, who 
in turn received the lands of the county Azurara Beira, these being the lands 
and became lord of the Castle of Belmonte: Master of Avis [...] donated to his 
vassal Alvaro Gil by letter last in Lisbon on March 27, 1384, to land Zurara, 
estate and interest, for him and his legitimate descendants, co todallas rents, 
taxes and forums her assy and the gisa that we auemos ... 2. These handouts 
were given to you before D. John I ascend, but before ascending the throne as 
King John will reward many who supported him in his fight, having been one of 
them, Álvares Cabral Gil 3, for the master of Avis rose thanks to popular 
support of members the nobility and bourgeoisie. Álvaro Gil witnessed the 
Cortes of Coimbra, when
 it was declared D. John I, King of Portugal. Little data exist Álvaro Gil 
Cabral, according to Alexandre Alves, was the son of D. Gil, dean of the 
Guard, later bishop of the same city [...]. From his marriage with Maria (or 
Catherine) Aires de Loureiro, from Silgueiros, Alvaro Gil were the following 
children: Luís Álvares Cabral 4 and others. Luís Álvares Cabral said to be the 
successor of Zurara, mayor of Belmonte Castle, being selected to join the House 
of Prince Henrique. Appointed by Infante captain of one of the organized armed 
galleys in Oporto in 1415 in view of Ceuta expedition is quoted with his son 
Fernando Alvares 5. He married twice and had several children, highlighting 
the successor d'Fernão Álvares Cabral and Fernando Alvares Cabral.

          After this succeeded by his son Ferdinand Alvares Cabral, ascended 
socially pagem, young gentleman, squire and knight of the order by Casa do 
Infante D. Henrique. though to Ceuta with his father was not part of the 
conquest, because he got sick and landed in Tarifa to recover, and when he 
moved to Ceuta good for a while defending the city against the Moors. She 
married D. Teresa lived in Viseu de Andrade and had three children, died in the 
first child, the second being his successor Jonathan Cabral. Great defender of 
the people of Azurara leading up to the king saw their problems increased their 
territories donations Azurara, Butters and Quinta de Santo André [...] of 
Moimenta alongside Gouveia and cease to be charged in tomadias and maladias 
Zurara of land, which is reguengo the King 6 in order of King D. Duarte. 
Fernando Alvares Cabral died in 1437.

          Later amounted Fernão Cabral or Fernão Cabral - The old, was born 
around 1427 and died between 1492 and 1493. Dominated a large expanse of 
territory and married D. Isabel de Gouveia, and had many sons upwards of ten. 
With its prestige was created of Henry and gentleman of the Houses and the 
Council of Kings Alfonso V and John II 7.

          The Regedor Justice of Beira, Riba Coa administrator and justice of 
Viseu, the most feared and austere in the region for his sense of justice and 
severity. During the reign of King Afonso V permeated him to fight with him to 
take over the squares of northern Africa and received a lifetime so alcaidaria 
Belmonte and patronage of St. Julien Church Mangualde D. Afonso V, by letter 
of Santarém, in 30 April 1462, makes the mercy Fernão Cabral, a nobleman of our 
house, the patronage of the church of St. Julian of Azurara 8, and this 
donation confirmed in 1509 by D. 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles

[Altino Demelo]

That was a ROUGH (and i do mean rough) translation through google translate.

If anyone has a lot more time, here is the original text i found, untranslated.


A Família Cabral
   
A Família Cabral teve sempre uma grande influência e prestígio no concelho de 
Mangualde pelo seu sentimento patriótico e de força perante as crises 
nacionais. Esta família recusou-se beija-mão de Leonor Teles e assim a 
reconhecê-la como Rainha de Portugal e [...] perder o senhorio das terras de 
Azurara; mais tarde, como penhor da dedicação que o Alcaide-Mor da Guarda, 
Álvaro Gil Cabral, manifestou pela independência de Portugal [...] Mestre de 
Avis, quando era Regedor e defensor do reino; finalmente, um descendente do 
mesmo Álvaro Gil Cabral as perde em consequência do nobre gesto que teve para 
com D. Filipe II de Espanha1 .Embora em investigações, desenvolvidas por Dr. 
Alexandre Alves mais recentes as não confirmem a última ideia de retiradas de 
terras por parte da Coroa.
  Durante a época da monarquia Mangualde nunca foi esquecida, por se 
tratar da terra de da família de Pedro Álvares Cabral, pois para além de 
descobridor do Brasil foi Alcaide-Mor da vila de Azurara da Beira.
 Portanto a primeira época onde a Família Cabral destaca o seu poder é 
durante a crise de 1383-85,apoiando sempre o Mestre de Avis. O grande defensor 
era Álvaro Gil Cabral Alcaide-Mor da Guarda, avô de Pedro Álvares Cabral, que 
em troca recebeu as terras do concelho de Azurara da Beira, sendo os estas 
terras e tornou-se senhor do Castelo de Belmonte: o Mestre de Avis [...] doou 
ao seu vassalo Álvaro Gil, por carta passada em Lisboa, em 27 de Março de 1384, 
a terra de Zurara, de juro e herdade, para ele e seus descendentes legítimos, 
cõ todallas rendas, foros e tributos dela, assy e pela gisa que a nós 
auemos...2. Estas benesses foram-lhe dadas antes de D. João I ascender: mas 
antes de subir ao trono, D. João já recompensara muitos dos que o apoiavam na 
sua  luta, tendo sido um deles, Álvares Gil Cabral3, pois o mestre de Avis  
ascendeu graças ao apoio popular, de membros da nobreza e burguesia. Álvaro Gil
 presenciou as Cortes de Coimbra, quando foi declarado D. João I, Rei de 
Portugal. Pouco dados existem de Álvaro Gil Cabral, segundo Alexandre Alves, 
era filho de D. Gil, deão da Guarda, mais tarde bispo da mesma cidade [...]. 
Do seu casamento com Maria (ou Catarina) Aires de Loureiro, de Silgueiros, 
houve Álvaro Gil os seguintes filhos: Luís Álvares Cabral4 e outros. Luís 
Álvares Cabral destacou-se ser o sucessor de Zurara, alcaide do Castelo de 
Belmonte, sendo seleccionado para integrar a Casa do Infante D. Henrique. 
Nomeado pelo Infante capitão de uma das galés da armada organizada no Porto em 
1415 em vista da expedição de Ceuta, é citado com seu filho Fernando Álvares5. 
Ele casou duas vezes e teve vários filhos, destacando-se o sucessor Fernão 
d'Álvares Cabral ou Fernando Álvares Cabral.
  Depois deste sucedeu-lhe seu filho Fernão Alvares Cabral, ascendeu 
socialmente pagem, moço fidalgo, escudeiro e por fim cavaleiro da Casa do 
Infante D. Henrique. embora fosse para Ceuta com seu pai não fez parte da 
conquista, porque ficou doente e desembarcou em Tarifa até se recuperar, e 
quando bom foi viver para Ceuta durante algum tempo defendendo a cidade contra 
os mouros. Casou com D. Teresa de Andrade moravam em Viseu e teve três filhos, 
o primeiro faleceu em criança, sendo seu sucessor o segundo Fernão Cabral. 
Grande defensor do povo de Azurara levando até ao rei os seus problemas viu 
aumentados seus territóriosdoações de Azurara, Manteigas e Quinta de Santo 
André [...] de Moimenta a par de Gouveia e deixam de ser cobradas tomadias e 
maladias em terras de Zurara, que é reguengo del-Rei6 por ordem de El-Rei D. 
Duarte. Fernando Álvares Cabral morreu em 1437.
  Posteriormente ascendeu Fernão Cabral ou Fernão Cabral - O velho, 
nasceu por volta de 1427 e faleceu entre 1492 ou 1493. Dominavam um grande 
extensão de território e casou com D. Isabel de Gouveia, e tiveram muitos 
filhos para cima de dez. Com seu prestígio foi criado do Infante D. Henrique e 
fidalgo das Casas e do Conselho dos reis D. Afonso V e D. João II7.
  O Regedor da Justiça da Beira, Riba Côa e administrador da justiça de 
Viseu, o mais temido e austero da região pelo seu sentido de justiça e 
severidade. Durante o reinado de D. Afonso V  permeou-o por  combater com ele 
para se apoderar das praças do norte de África e recebeu de forma vitalícia a 
alcaidaria de Belmonte e o padroado de Igreja de São Julião de Mangualde D. 
Afonso V, por carta datada de Santarém, em 30 de Abril de 1462, faz mercê a 
Fernão Cabral, fidalgo de nossa casa, do padroado da igreja de S. Julião de 
Azurara8, sendo esta doação confirmada em 1509 por D. Manuel I.  Mandou fazer 
reformas nas casas de Colmeal das Donas, nas grandes tulhas na Quinta de São 
Cosmadinho e na Igreja de São Julião de Mangualde.
   Mas o 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Family

[Altino Demelo]

Geneva, I have Martim and Teresa In my maternal tree too. Sadly, Rodrigo 
Rodrigues' information on this line ends with this couple. If you are able to 
get anything further on them, please let me know.

Altino

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 I have picked up where I left off in my Cabral Family and I am a bit 
 confused. Does anyone know anything about Martim de Oliveira Vasconcelos born 
 abt 1445 in Beja de Alentejo, Portugal. I have that he married Catarina 
 Afonso and Teresa Velho. Is Teresa Velho, Teresa Velho Cabral? Was Martim 
 married twice. Is Teresa Velho Cabral the sister of Goncalo Velho Cabral? Am 
 I on the right track. Any help would be appreciated.
 Thanks
 Geneva Cook-Gervais
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinion on a hard to read name

[Altino Demelo]

Thank you everyone for your help.

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 Hi everyone,
 
 I have a record that has a name that's difficult to read. I've been able to 
 make out the groom's name and his mother as well as the bride and her 
 parents, but the groom's father is difficult to figure out. I'm attaching the 
 record and have circled the groom's father.
 
 Hopefully with the opinions of the group i can come to some kind of consensus.
 
 Thanks everyone.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A town called Etras?

[Altino Demelo]

Any chance it could be an abbreviation for Estrela.

Maybe if a photo of the record was posted it might spark something.

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 I have an obituary identifying a residence for a relative as Etras, Portugal. 
  This relative was born around 1915 in Sao Miguel, probably Agua d' Alto 
 though he could have been born in Faial da Terra.  So, where did he go?  To 
 Etras in the Azores or Etras in Portugal?  Is there even an Etras in either 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading older record

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Hi Richard, 

I agree with Cheri. The brides parents are from the same parish as where this 
marriage takes place. The word nesta appears when mentioning the parent 
parish. That word means  in this.

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 Hi All,
 The attached record is from Sao Sebastiao in Ponta Delgada. I am having 
 difficulty reading the parish of the bride.  Barbra de Sao Jose daughter of 
 Manuel de Sousa and Barbara Correia both being deceased It is on the 4th line 
 from the bottom and looks matriz but I want to be sure.
  
 Rick
  
 Richard Francis Pimentel
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 Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
  
 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please

[Altino Demelo]

Fred, i think Pam is correct. When i click on your link i'm taken to a page to 
sign up for Ancestry.

Pam, how do you send someone an invite on Ancestry?



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Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 4:34:21 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please
 

I just started back researching my father's family who all have roots in 
Sao Miguel. Going through some papers, I found the attached document. I 
do not understand Portuguese so I'd be very grateful if someone could 
please translate the document for me. 

Thanks,
Fred Estrella
Researching Sao Miguel. Surnames: Estrella, Cordeiro, Tavares, Arruda
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please

[Altino Demelo]

Folks, regarding the couple mentioned from Ginetes:

Andre Carvalho married Jacintha Rosa in Ginetes Säo Miguel 04  May 1822

André's parents are Manuel Carvalho and Victoria da Conceiçäo (Vittoria)
Jacintha's parents are Luis de Sousa Martins and Leonor de Säo José.

Luis and Leonor are my 4th great grandparents.

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 I just started back researching my father's family who all have roots in Sao 
 Miguel. Going through some papers, I found the attached document. I do not 
 understand Portuguese so I'd be very grateful if someone could please 
 translate the document for me. 
 
 Thanks,
 Fred Estrella
 Researching Sao Miguel. Surnames: Estrella, Cordeiro, Tavares, Arruda
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please

[Altino Demelo]

Fred, I no longer subscribe as I found that the info that ancestry provides is 
primarily for North America. That tree is a bit outdated. If your ancestors 
match in that online tree, let me know as I might have info going further back.

Fred can you send me a link to your tree? 

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 Altino,
 Thanks for making the connection with my tree and sending on the marriage 
 record. I saw that you have a family tree on Ancestry.com.  My tree, Estrella 
 Family Tree, is also on Ancestry. 
 
 Fred
 
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 On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Altino Demelo demelo.alt...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Folks, regarding the couple mentioned from Ginetes:
 
 Andre Carvalho married Jacintha Rosa in Ginetes Säo Miguel 04  May 1822
 
 André's parents are Manuel Carvalho and Victoria da Conceiçäo (Vittoria)
 Jacintha's parents are Luis de Sousa Martins and Leonor de Säo José.
 
 Luis and Leonor are my 4th great grandparents.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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 I just started back researching my father's family who all have roots in 
 Sao Miguel. Going through some papers, I found the attached document. I do 
 not understand Portuguese so I'd be very grateful if someone could please 
 translate the document for me. 
 
 Thanks,
 Fred Estrella
 Researching Sao Miguel. Surnames: Estrella, Cordeiro, Tavares, Arruda
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please

[Altino Demelo]

It could be Rosa?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please

[Altino Demelo]

Fred, this is what i make of the record:

As Cheri mentioned, it is a copy of an original record from a priest of 
Bretanha, São Miguel

Rosa, born at 10 a.m. on 15 March 1895
daughter of Francisco Tavares (farmer) native of Bretanha  Maria da Conceição 
(seamstress) native of Santo Antonio.

Paternal grandparents are José Tavares  Maria Jacintha (Jacinta)
Maternal grandaughter of Manuel d'Arruda Oliveira Cabral  Rosa de Jesus

Godparents were José d'Arruda (single farmer) and Rosa de Jesus (widow)



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Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 4:34:21 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please
 

I just started back researching my father's family who all have roots in 
Sao Miguel. Going through some papers, I found the attached document. I 
do not understand Portuguese so I'd be very grateful if someone could 
please translate the document for me. 

Thanks,
Fred Estrella
Researching Sao Miguel. Surnames: Estrella, Cordeiro, Tavares, Arruda
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

[Altino Demelo]

I agree, I think people from the Azores pronounce it Lopes (sounding like it 
rhymes with ropes), while Spaniards pronounce it like lop-ez.

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 My Portuguese professor told me that Portuguese derives in goodly measure 
 from Old Provençal (it migrated from southern France).  Additionally, 
 Portuguese strongly resembles Old Galician, a language from the northwestern 
 corner of Spain adjacent to northern mainland Portugal.
 
 I find, after studied Portuguese, that Spanish sounds a bit to my ear like a 
 simplified/clarified form of Portuguese.
 
 The all-star baseball player/manager Davey Lopes, of half Cape Verdean 
 ancestry through his father's side, pronounces his surname the Anglicized 
 way, in one syllable lopes, rather than LOPE-ish like in European 
 Portuguese or LOPE-eez like in Brazilian Portuguese.
 
 Katharine.
 
 
 On Friday, February 1, 2013 5:46:40 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
 
 Lionel,
 
 Around the Portuguese hall in Artesia, I hear Lopes rhyming with ropes.
 
 My introduction into Portuguese was through the band in Artesia.  Many are 
 from Terceira and speak with that accent.  After listening to them for 2 
 years, I went to Sao Miguel.  For a day and half, I couldn't understand the 
 accent.  After 2 weeks there, I went back to the band and had to get used 
 the accent there.
 
 I guess it's the same as in America (and perhaps other countries) where a 
 documentary is filmed.  The people they are interviewing are native speakers 
 of your language, but the are somewhat hard to understand.  I think of 
 documentaries from the rural south of the United States.
 
 Every country will have regional accents and so will the Azores for their 
 various regions.
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 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy workshops in Hayward, CA

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Although it is too far for me to attend, if I could I would certainly attend.

Your workshops are very reasonably priced João.

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 have differents one in other places, if enough people are interested.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] genealogy workshops in Hayward, CA

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That would be great. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros

[Altino Demelo]

Thanks Dano.

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 Does anyone know who the first Medeiros that came to the Azores was? I had a 
 cousin who emailed me asking, which I don't know.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa marriage translation help

[Altino Demelo]

Dolores, Lourenço and his wife are probably Betencourts. The record is probably 
using abbreviations.

Also, a canada is not necessarily referring to the country of Canada, but 
rather a small road.

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On 2012-12-30, at 2:31 PM, Dolores Vener djve...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 The marriage date is 13 Nov 1784 for Lorenco Jose de B.Court and D. Rosa 
 Joaquina de B.Court in Luz, Graciosa. The record is very clear on a full 
 page, but the words I don't understand are where it would give the brides 
 history. It says D. Rosa Joaquina de B.Court apistente no lugar da Canada 
 of this freg.a fa de Pays incognitos. It's the apistente or apintente where 
 is would usually say morador that I can't figure out. Can anyone help me? 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Medeiros

[Altino Demelo]

Daniel could you please send me a PDF or something withe Rui's ancestors?

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 Altino, I already have Rui's ancestors back to Martim Sanches das Medas b.abt 
 1212 a.d. Martim m. Dona Dordia Nunes de Aguiar.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros

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Sorry, Dano. (UGGHH, autocorrect).

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 Does anyone know who the first Medeiros that came to the Azores was? I had a 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Medeiros

[Altino Demelo]

Daniel, Rui Vas de medeiros is also my 13th great grandfather on my maternal 
side.

Rui's father was Vasco de Medeiros

Vasco's father was Gonçalo Roiz de Medeiros

Gonçalo's father was Rui Gonçalves de Medeiros.

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 Hi Pam,
 Hard to say who the first actually was... Medeiros is a very common
 name and the only people that ever get recorded are nobility. Rui Vaz
 de Medeiros may have been the earliest recorded Medeiros to arrive in
 S. Miguel. He was born in Ponte de Lima, Portugal, and married in
 Madeira. Rodrigo Rodrigues refers to Gaspar Frutuoso's account of him
 as being one of the earliest settlers in S. Miguel. He arrived along
 with his wife, Anna Goncalves de Mendonca, circa 1474, and, Rui
 Goncalves da Camara, third Captain Donatary of S. Miguel. He lived at
 first next to the Convent of Nossa Senhora da Esperanca, and moved to
 Ponta Garca after the death of his wife. I list him as my 12th GGF.
 The Medeiros line dates back at least to 1200, in north central
 Portugal, where there actually is a place named Medeiros.
 
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 Does anyone know who the first Medeiros that came to the Azores was? I had
 a cousin who emailed me asking, which I don't know.
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Question about Terceira Island

[Altino Demelo]

I'm not that knowledgable about Terceira, but I'm wondering if anyone on the 
list is familiar with parishes from this island?

I am looking for a marriage around 1703. Originally, my descendants married in 
1703 in São Matheus de Calhetas (Angra do Heroism), but he was a widower, so 
the record just lists his deceased wife. I searched 50 years back in this 
parish with no luck.

Can anyone tell me of the nearest other parishes in this timeline to São 
Matheus? (I'm hoping to find the first marriage in a surrounding parish).

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas/Feliz Natal thread

[Altino Demelo]

Merry Christmas to all fellow researchers of our Group. Happy new year and best 
wishes for successful finds in the New Year.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with record from Terceira

[Altino Demelo]

Thanks Richard, Manoel and Margaret for your thoughts on this record.

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On 2012-12-16, at 10:02 AM, Altino Demelo demelo.alt...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I just came across info recently that leads one of my mother's lines away 
 from São Miguel to the island of Terceira.
 
 I found the marriage record of my mother's 6x great grandparents in São 
 Matheus de Calheta, Ilha de Terceira.
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1690-1740/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1690-1740_item1/P18.html
 
 from my reading of the record, the groom is Antonio Fernandes de Mello, 
 widower of Maria Alvares. The problem i'm having is with the father of the 
 bride.
 
 She is Angela Martins, daughter of Manuel  de   Barbara Martins.
 
 Any help/opinions are greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Altino
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with record from Terceira

[Altino Demelo]

Hi everyone,

I just came across info recently that leads one of my mother's lines away from 
São Miguel to the island of Terceira.

I found the marriage record of my mother's 6x great grandparents in São Matheus 
de Calheta, Ilha de Terceira.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1690-1740/TER-AH-SAOMATEUSCALHETA-C-1690-1740_item1/P18.html

from my reading of the record, the groom is Antonio Fernandes de Mello, widower 
of Maria Alvares. The problem i'm having is with the father of the bride.

She is Angela Martins, daughter of Manuel  de   Barbara Martins.

Any help/opinions are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Altino

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