Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogist for hire in the azores

[George Pacheco]

he died  April 1969 in cambrige and he was 66  that makes him born about
1903

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 7:55 PM  wrote:

> Thank you. I am looking for my grandparents who were born in the 1890s on
> sao miguel. Probably in Ribeira grande. There names are maria assumpcao
> borges (de sousa calouro) and camillo carreiro. His father was alverinho
> carreiro. Both my grandparents came to the boston area in the early 1900s.
> Suzanne
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading this Altares Marriage record from1825

[George Pacheco]

as you saw it Francisco Martins Dias written in the old spelling of Diaz
today Francisco Martins Dias

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 10:02 PM  wrote:

> Thanks. Was there anything else added to the father of the bride like
> Francisco Martins Dias? Or something?
>
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> *From: *George Pacheco 
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> record from1825
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>
> Rosa da Trindade
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>
> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 9:44 PM  wrote:
>
> I’m having a lot of problems reading this record. The groom is Francisco
> Goncalves Velho and I think his parents are Jose Goncalves Velho and Maria
> de Jesus. The bride is Beatriz do Espirito Santo and I think her father is
> Francisco Martins and I can not make out her mother’s name. I have a
> problem in my database and I’m trying to resolve it so as much info I can
> get from this record would greatly be appreciated.
>
> The record is on the right side.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P127.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading this Altares Marriage record from 1825

[George Pacheco]

Rosa da Trindade

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 9:44 PM  wrote:

> I’m having a lot of problems reading this record. The groom is Francisco
> Goncalves Velho and I think his parents are Jose Goncalves Velho and Maria
> de Jesus. The bride is Beatriz do Espirito Santo and I think her father is
> Francisco Martins and I can not make out her mother’s name. I have a
> problem in my database and I’m trying to resolve it so as much info I can
> get from this record would greatly be appreciated.
>
> The record is on the right side.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P127.html
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> Thank you
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Records at the Biblioteca e Arquivo in Ponta Delgada

[George Pacheco]

July I was There and all they gave me on Concelho de Ponta Delgada was from
March 1911 to 1922 Civil Records in those years  I copied all of Arrifes,
Bretanha Santo Antonio, Mosteiros, all of Ginetes some Relva, Some Feteiras
and Some of Ponta Delgada which contain São Pedro, São Sebastião, Fajã de
cima and Fajã de Baixoand some Candelaria and a lot of capelas, some Fenais
da luz, some of São Vicente abt 5542 documents

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 11:59 AM Judi Phillips  wrote:

> Thanks for posting this list.  I was not aware of the Nordeste obits going
> to 1959. More work to do.  Just a minor correction to the Archive records.
> When I was there last month I was able to find an obit in Ponta Delgada
> from 1946, so those records go to at least 1947.
> Thanks for all you do.
> Judi Chaves Phillips
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 27, 2018, at 7:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Apparently, the Archive in Ponta Delgada did not give me the correct
> information on their holdings. George Pacheco, a native speaker, got the
> following information.
>
> Concelho de Ponta Delgada
> Marriages up to 1922
> Obits up to 1922
>
> Concelho da Lagoa
> Marriages up to 1939
> Obits up to 1969
>
> Concelho de Nordeste
> Marriages up to 1959
> Obits up to 1979
>
> No wonder they are out of room and don't have room for the other councils
> (which are the ones I need!!)
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Records at the Biblioteca e Arquivo in Ponta Delgada

[George Pacheco]

Baptisms is what s available on the CCA site, as of last week, that is the
only information that was given me.

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 12:28 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> They gave me different information when I was there. I was asking for
> records from the council of Vila Franca. They told me that Ponta Delgada
> goes up to 1912 and the others up to 1905. Apparently that is not true.
> They told me that Santa Maria goes up to 1911. I don't know if that's true
> or not. Go with what George Pacheco had me post. I don't know where the
> births/baptisms are.
>
> Concelho de Ponta Delgada
> Marriages up to 1922
> Obits up to 1922
>
> Concelho da Lagoa
> Marriages up to 1939
> Obits up to 1969
>
> Concelho de Nordeste
> Marriages up to 1959
> Obits up to 1979
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pacheco Marques Genealogy

[George Pacheco]

here is the Marriage
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1860-1869/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-C-1860-1869_item1/P66.html
Maria's birth
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1860-1869/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1860-1869_item1/P225.html



On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:03 AM Michael Giffin <
michael.giffin.1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you JR. Maria's death certificate gives her birth as 25 December
> 1867. Yes, 12 January 1868 is more likely to be her baptismal date. At this
> stage, the family is interested in confirming or establishing the identity
> of Maria's first husband, the father of her first six children. In the 1900
> Census, the last name of these first six children is Goncalves. According
> to the DeMello Passport Index, a  Goncalves family came to Hawaii, from the
> same village (Porto Formoso), and on the same ship (SS Abergeldie) as
> Maria's family.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pacheco Marques Genealogy

[George Pacheco]

Francisco Pacheco Marques son of Antonio Pacheco Marques and of Francisca
Rosa married on March 4, 1867 in Porto formoso with Josefa do Espirito
Santo , she is the daughter of Manuel Cabral of Porto Formoso and of Maria
Perpetua of Fenais da Ajuda

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 1:15 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Michael G,
>
> Your cousin Evan needs to transfer his DNA over to FTDNA. He gets all his
> matches for free. If he wants the additional tools, it's $19 USD.
>
> Then the rest of you need to DNA test. Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a
> sale this month. You want Family Finder. It's on sale for $59 USD (+$12.95
> S - includes the return postage back if you are a U.S. resident, so all
> you have to do is drop it off at your post office).
>
> You have half your parents' DNA, 25% of your grandparennts, and 12.5% of
> your greats. You and your cousins don't have the same 12.5%. You have an
> overlapping portion. You want as many cousins as you can find who are
> descendants from Maria's husband #1 and #2 to test. It will eventually come
> into focus and you will figure out the people who you don't match in common
> as the family of husband 1.
>
> If your parents or their siblings are alive, test them first. They have
> 25% of Maria and her husbands in them.
>
> Order here: https://goo.gl/vTndP3
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> Let me know if you have further questions.
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> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 1:30 AM, Michael Giffin <
> michael.giffin.1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is so exciting, thank you!
>>
>> A cousin recently sent me this note: "Evan recently did his DNA with
>> Ancestry.com and started to put his family tree together. He showed me this
>> name that came up for grandpa Joseph's father as Gonsalves Galego.  Could
>> it be that we thought his first name was his last name which is why we
>> could not find any info on him?"
>>
>> Joseph is the second son of Maria Pacheco Marques and her first husband,
>> of whom we know nothing, but the 1900 Census gives the child's last name as
>> Goncalves. Is there a connection between this and the Gonsalves Galego
>> mentioned above?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:16:33 AM UTC+10, Michael Giffin wrote:
>>>
>>> My great-great grandparents, Francisco Pacheco Marques and Josepha
>>> Cabral and their four children (Maria[1], Margarida, Manuel, and Maria[2])
>>> arrived in Hawaii on 4 May 1883 on the SS Abergeldie. They came from the
>>> village of Porto Formoso in Sao Miguel. They lived for many years in the
>>> Laupahoehoe district of Hawaii Island (the Big Island). My
>>> great-grandmother, Maria[1], had six children by her first marriage and
>>> four children by her second marriage. We cannot confirm the name of her
>>> first husband; however, in the 1900 Census, the last names of her first six
>>> children is Goncalves. According to the DeMello Passport Index, a Goncalves
>>> family arrived in Hawaii from Porto Formoso on the same ship as the Pacheco
>>> Marques family. While it is big guess, villagers did tend to stay together,
>>> so Maria[1] may have married a Goncalves child from this family. I will be
>>> visiting Sao Miquel in November 2018 and look forward to seeing the village
>>> of Porto Formoso. Thank you, Michael.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Obit - Santo Espirito, Santa Maria

[George Pacheco]

Em os vinte e set dias do mes de Fevereiro de mil outo centos I trinta anos
faleceu da vid presente sem ter tido os Sacramentos  por cair no Pico do
castelo e de idade de Cincoenta e tres anos pouco mais ou menos, Maria
Francisca casada qu foi com Jose Luis moradores na calheta termo dsta
Paroquial de Nossa Senhora da Purificação lugar de Santo Espirito desta
ilha de Santa Maria não fez testament foi mortalhada pelos Padres de Sao
Francisco acompanhada de casa a esta Paroquial aonde foi sepultada em
sepulture de Fabrica em 28 dias do ditto mes e ano.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> George and Sandra,
>
>  - idade de Sincoenta tres (53)
>
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> On Dec 2, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Sandra Perez  wrote:
>
>
> George,
>
> 63.this is a hard one.  Definitely see a "3"
>
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 2:50 PM, George Sousa 
> wrote:
>
>> Page on the right... at the top
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835_item1/P69.html
>>
>> Can anyone make out the age of the deceased?
>>
>> I have... "Em os vinte e sete dias do mes de Feveriro de mil oito centos
>> e trinta annos faleceu da vida prezente sem ter recebido os Divinos
>> Sacramentos por cahir? no
>> Pico do Castello e de idade de ?sincoenta? tres annos pello mais ou menos
>> Maria Francisca cazada ? com Francisco Joze da Luz moradores na Calheta"
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> George
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907

[George Pacheco]

what was the Brides Name avwas the Groom Antero?

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:16 PM,  wrote:

> Does anyone have this couple? They were married in Fall River on 28 Nov
> 1907.  The groom was 20, bride was 22.  In 1907 they lived on 19 Morton
> Street.  Groom's parents  were Antonio Santos and Maria Rapoza, supposedly
> from Ponta Delgada.  The bride's parents were Manuel Furtado and Maria
> Encarnacao.  The 1910 and 1920 census has him listed as Anthers Santos
> instead of Anthero.  He immigrated with his parents in 1902
>
> I have checked the birth records in some of the Ponta Delgada parishes,
> Sao Sebastiao, Sao Pedro and Sao Roque etc. and also the Ellis Island
> records. Any information is appreciated. My father shares 73.3 CM of DNA
> with Anthero's father, which is a fair amount of DNA.  It would be good to
> make the connection as my great great grandmother was a Santos too.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Server Not Found

[George Pacheco]

Cheri, you still can't access  the azores through Tombo.pt  that is where i
was working from, its down

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> Sandra P,
>
> The site: tombo.pt itself works on both Firefox and Chrome on a Windows
> 10 computer.
>
> Tombo.pt is a portal or a table of contents to the CCA. It's a finding aid
> for the CCA site. Once you navigate and locate your record, you will click
> on a link that will take you directly to the CCA site. That's different.
> I'm sure Tombo.pt could be programmed to have a window pop up that says
> "You are leaving Tombo.pt and going to the CCA. Are you sure?" but that is
> just an extra step. However, it may help people learn the difference
> between Tombo.pt and the CCA.
>
> Tombo.pt is working. The CCA is not. To report the CCA being down, email
> drac@azores.gov.pt.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Server Not Found

[George Pacheco]

site is down just now it was working earlier

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> The site came up right away on my end. Refresh and try again or switch to
> another browser and try. Sometimes technology can be persnickety.
>
> Joanne
>
>
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> perezsandra...@gmail.com) wrote:
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> Is anybody else getting that message at tombo.pt?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Povoacao, Sao Miguel-Baptismal record help

[George Pacheco]

To me it is a very bad abbreviation of Faleceu

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

> Thank you. Maybe there's a marriage record with a margin note.
>
> On Jul 30, 2017 11:23, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
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>> It looks like it says "Fail." I wonder if he died on 27 Oct 1907, record
>> number 74.
>> I don't think 1907 is online for Mae de Deus. Otherwise, you'd have your
>> answer!
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
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>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Joseph Mendonca > > wrote:
>>
>>> Left page, No. 176-Manuel
>>>
>>> I need some help with an explanation/clarification of the margin note
>>> under Manuel's name.
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-
>>> MAEDEDEUS-B-1870-1879/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-B-1870-1879_item1/P159.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Father's Name (Santo Espirito, Santa Maria)

[George Pacheco]

 Manoel Frz ( Fernandes) Lordello e de Ana de Moira (Moura)

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:46 AM, George Sousa 
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> Thank you JR and thank you Louie... I will take your advice.
>
> George
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:29 AM, JR  wrote:
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>> It's Manoel Fr'z (Fernandes) Lordello
>>
>> JR
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 9:41:20 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote:
>>>
>>> Second Record on the right...
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1710-1720/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1710-1720_i
>>> tem1/P45.html
>>>
>>> Can anyone make out the father's full name?
>>>
>>> I see "Manoel filho de Manoel ? Lordello e de Ana de Moira..."
>>>
>>> Could it be "Manoel Fernandes Lordello" or is it "Manoel Figueiredo
>>> Lordello"... or something else?
>>>
>>> As always... thank you for your help.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>> A bit of background for those that are interested.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for the baptismal record of Manoel Moura Curvello son of
>>> Manoel Fernandes and Ana Moura, The obit record of Manoel Moura Curvello (
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP
>>> -SANTOESPIRITO-O-1793-1810/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1793-1810_
>>> item1/P4.html) states he died on June 18, 1793 at the age of 77 (more
>>> or less). That make his date of birth around 1716 (consistent with the
>>> above record).
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[George Pacheco]

1811 onze o

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> No, unless I got it wrong. Here’s the marriage entry —>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836_item1/P105.html
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>
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> On January 24, 2017 at 8:43:53 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci (rcap...@gmail.com)
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> Did they marry in 1809?? If so, that is probably the date the "Bans" were
> read, usually about 3 weeks before the actual marriage. The word before the
> dad's name could be a title but I can't seem to read it! Sorry
>
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>>
>> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
>> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
>> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
>> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
>> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
>> before?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
>> Joanne Grota Mercier
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA ponta delgada

[George Pacheco]

Alfers Roque Alvares do Couto and Luzia Botelho are my 9th Great
Grandparents

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Keith Pimental 
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> Manoel,
> The Botelhos I know about are the parents of one Caterina Izabel in 1806,
> Their names were Antonio Botelho and Barbara da Conceiçao, Antonioºs father
> was José Botelho. I donºt have their datees yet but obvioullsy in the 1700's
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:16 PM, mances  wrote:
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>> Keith, my Botelho line from my maternal grandfather Francisco Botelho is
>> also from São Roque and goes back to Luzia Botelho married with Roque
>> Álvares do Couto on 12 nov 1629 in São Roque, Rosto do Cão (RR - Cap. 134º,
>> N.º 4,  § 2.º).
>>
>> Around 1810 they moved to Rosário, Lagoa, and then to Brazil in 1880.
>>
>> Manoel César Furtado
>>
>> Em segunda-feira, 16 de maio de 2016 15:41:55 UTC-3, HK Pimental escreveu:
>>>
>>> HI Angela,
>>> My grand parents were from São Roque Rosto de Cão as well. It wasn't a
>>> very big parish so I wonder if we share a connection My paternal great
>>> grand parents ancestors were Pereira and Botelho and Cunha.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Ângela Loura 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Monica,

 My great grandfather was from São Roque Rosto de Cão and he setted in
 Santa Maria where he married my great grandmother and remained there till
 he died.

 2016-05-16 15:59 GMT+01:00 Cheri Mello :

> The CCA is complete for ALL islands. I'm pretty sure the site is
> finished with everything they planned to upload. It is my understanding
> that nothing new is planned.
>
> As for moving from island to island, it depends. Some of the central
> islands are close together, so some movement can be seen between those
> islands more so than seeing people move from Sao Miguel (they are more
> likely to move somewhere else on Sao Miguel lsland in my opinion).
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Paying for a document?

[George Pacheco]

If you were trying to pay for a document from the Azores or Portugal you
need to transfer the money to their bank account therefore you have to ask
them for the router and bank account number that you can transfer to all
you make a money order for the $0.30 euros and you mail it to them that's
my home by snail mail will cost you more cuz you have to pay the postage
On Apr 1, 2016 7:22 PM, "we...@stargazerlabradors.com" <
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> How do I do it? All they sent was the bank information and numbers. The
> cost of the document is only 0,30€ would I go to my bank and transfer. How
> likely is it, if I call, someone would speak English? Thank you in advance.
> Wendi Sylvester Shaw
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Test

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It has been quiet
On Nov 6, 2015 10:11 PM, "Lee"  wrote:

> My test worked.  Post came through.
>
> That is a relief.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Could the CCA records be down??

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I tried cca site and I' having the same error as in Tombo.pt
On Oct 11, 2015 8:25 AM, "Joanne Mercier"  wrote:

> Something tells me they may be changing the way they allow us to search
> the website. I found this note on the actual CCA site but I’m not sure what
> it means:
>
> *To conduct research, simple or advanced on the contents of the
> documentary funds of the three regional archives of the Azores can use the
> following page:www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt
> *
>
> When I followed the link it took me to a new page setup but I’m not sure
> of the information it wants. Could they be doing this so folks go directly
> to them and not through tombo.pt? All I know is that I had a long weekend
> where I could have been researching but now am not. Oh well… ;)
>
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 6:55 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:
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>> Still not working as of 7 a.m. this Sunday morning.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 11:51 AM, 'Denise' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>> I still can’t get in.  Has anyone been able to access the records yet?
>>>
>>> Denise D’Antona
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Joanne Mercier 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It was not working last night, was working earlier this afternoon and
>>> now it’s not working again. Maybe they’re fixing something overnight their
>>> time?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Maria Lima 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Cheri.

 Maria Elena

 On Oct 8, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

 I emailed them.

 Cheri Mello
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> Same here
>
> 2015-10-08 13:20 GMT+01:00 Maria Lima :
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>> I'm getting a 500 Internal Error Message.  Anyone getting through?
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] carvalho Santos

[George Pacheco]

Hi,

I found the Manuel Carvalho Santos and parents, The mother was an incognito
the Fathers line continues.
Thanks for the help for those who either suggest or helped look.
São Pedro Ponta Delgada and santa Cruz lagoa
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho dos Santos

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Hello everyone , I'm looking for help for a Friend and their dfamily who is
visiting Sao Miguel in The of September .
All they know of their famil is this below.
Manuel Carvalho Santos aka Manuel Crawley Santos he settled in Provincetown
Massachusetts where he married, he was the son of Leandro C. Santos or dos
Santos, aka Leon Crawley Santos and of Lizarda J. or Lezarda have anyone
come across these two names together Carvalho Santos or Carvalho dos Santos.

Manuel came here in in most census he came in 1880 one census says 1885 he
was born 27 Aug 1863 , also seen November 1865 any clue would help i have
searched all I could in USA now i'm searching town by town in Sao Miguel
his mother is 94 and she is going with them in September she would be
Manuel's Granddaughter, and would love to go to the Church her grandfather
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho dos Santos

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I have all those records as far as USA I have different records with
different days I also have him in 1904 coming from sao Miguel, thank you

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 George
 His Naturalization Certificate dated 2 Jan 1904 says his birthday was 27
Aug 1862 (not 1863), and he arrived 11 Mar 1880.  He was in Azores and was
returning within 30 days.  I was unable to find him in the passports in 2
previous trips.  I will check this one.
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 Hello everyone , I'm looking for help for a Friend and their dfamily who
is visiting Sao Miguel in The of September .
 All they know of their famil is this below.
 Manuel Carvalho Santos aka Manuel Crawley Santos he settled in
Provincetown Massachusetts where he married, he was the son of Leandro C.
Santos or dos Santos, aka Leon Crawley Santos and of Lizarda J. or Lezarda
have anyone come across these two names together Carvalho Santos or
Carvalho dos Santos.

 Manuel came here in in most census he came in 1880 one census says 1885
he was born 27 Aug 1863 , also seen November 1865 any clue would help i
have searched all I could in USA now i'm searching town by town in Sao
Miguel his mother is 94 and she is going with them in September she would
be Manuel's Granddaughter, and would love to go to the Church her
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Carvalho dos Santos

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Thank you everyone for your input
On Aug 28, 2015 6:55 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have all those records as far as USA I have different records with
 different days I also have him in 1904 coming from sao Miguel, thank you

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  George
  His Naturalization Certificate dated 2 Jan 1904 says his birthday was 27
 Aug 1862 (not 1863), and he arrived 11 Mar 1880.  He was in Azores and was
 returning within 30 days.  I was unable to find him in the passports in 2
 previous trips.  I will check this one.
  Judi
 
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  Hello everyone , I'm looking for help for a Friend and their dfamily
 who is visiting Sao Miguel in The of September .
  All they know of their famil is this below.
  Manuel Carvalho Santos aka Manuel Crawley Santos he settled in
 Provincetown Massachusetts where he married, he was the son of Leandro C.
 Santos or dos Santos, aka Leon Crawley Santos and of Lizarda J. or Lezarda
 have anyone come across these two names together Carvalho Santos or
 Carvalho dos Santos.
 
  Manuel came here in in most census he came in 1880 one census says 1885
 he was born 27 Aug 1863 , also seen November 1865 any clue would help i
 have searched all I could in USA now i'm searching town by town in Sao
 Miguel his mother is 94 and she is going with them in September she would
 be Manuel's Granddaughter, and would love to go to the Church her
 grandfather came from.
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Book for sale

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I Have the book ( is Pimentel) that gas the genealogy of Joao Afonso
Pimentel I' m asking 50.00 plus shipping it is out of print. Anyone
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cape Verde Islands online at Family Search

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That is good news
On May 10, 2015 1:05 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, that's great! I will send the link to my friend in Washington DC
 maybe she will be able to trace her lines!

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 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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 I was sent this by Jim Lopes, a Cape Verdean researcher. SOME Cape Verde
 records are online at Family Search. So if you know anyone researching Cape
 Verde, send them this link:
 goo.gl/rhmWkM

 Their marriages include Justifications. In the Azores, we call them
 Dispensations. Some of the CV ones have trees outlining the relationship
 between the bride and groom!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Workshops on the East Coast of the USA

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I' looking for place so I can hold a hands on workshop how to navigate the
research sites that we have available to research morning workshop and an
afternoon slworkshop
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A letter to the reader - in a baptism book!

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Review this is when the bishop comes over I checked the records of the
following the example the start of the beginning of the year tell even
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao de Medeiros Calvo Francisca de Jesus/Ignacia of Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel

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That was suppose to be I have Medeiros Calvo in Bretanha
 On Apr 30, 2015 12:15 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll let you know if I chase them into Bretanha, George.
 Cheri

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 I have Medeiros calvo in Bretanha
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 Sure send me the info. Which daughter is it? I have Antonia Jacinta and
 Ana Jacinta. The paternal parents are Joao de Medeiros Calvo and Anmtonia
 de Simas; Maternal- Francisco de Macedo and Sebastiana de Jesus.

 JR

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 Yeah, I saw there were too many Joaos running around.  Thanks for the
 marriage. I have their deaths if you want it.
 Cheri

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 They married in PG, Sept 22 1817. I have them as Joao Inacio de
 Medeiros Calvo or Simas cc Francisca Inacia de Jesus. These are very
 difficult names in Ponta Garca. I never did look up children to verify if 
 I
 have the correct Joao Medeiros. There are quite a few in Ponta Garca.

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 in their tree? I believe they are from Ponta Garça, as their daughter is
 born there. They are dead by 1838 though.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao de Medeiros Calvo Francisca de Jesus/Ignacia of Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel

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I have Medeiros calvo in Bretanha
On Apr 29, 2015 8:37 AM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sure send me the info. Which daughter is it? I have Antonia Jacinta and
 Ana Jacinta. The paternal parents are Joao de Medeiros Calvo and Anmtonia
 de Simas; Maternal- Francisco de Macedo and Sebastiana de Jesus.

 JR

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 marriage. I have their deaths if you want it.
 Cheri

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 They married in PG, Sept 22 1817. I have them as Joao Inacio de Medeiros
 Calvo or Simas cc Francisca Inacia de Jesus. These are very difficult names
 in Ponta Garca. I never did look up children to verify if I have the
 correct Joao Medeiros. There are quite a few in Ponta Garca.

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 their tree? I believe they are from Ponta Garça, as their daughter is born
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Arrifes

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Hi Theresa,

I am currently working for someone who 2 people who are adoptees and have
DNA matches to this same family, so I cannot disclose here on email but if
you want to call me later this afternoon, I get home at 6 p.m ET
401-572-1568

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 person is adopted and found a second cousin through a DNA match.  These new
 second cousin's grandparents are from Arrifes.  I am trying to find all the
 children of these grandparents.  This is what I have:

 Jose da Silva   Alexandria da Gloria.  Paternal : Manuel Silva  Albena
  Maternal:  Jose Correa da Motta  Maria de Jesus.
 This couple has a son:  Miguel da Silva Moniz DOB: 1907

 The other couple is:

 Manuel Cordeiro DOB: 1874  Maria deJesus DOB: 1880.  They married in Feb
 1897.  Paternal:  Joao Cordeiro  Maria deJesus.  Maternal:  Cesario dos
 Santos  Antonia deJesus da Costa.

 This couple has a daughter:  Deolinda DOB: 1909

 So basically, I am looking for the siblings of Miguel and Deolinda.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Arrifes

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Miguel da Silva Moniz and Deolinda Cordeiro

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 I am currently working for someone who 2 people who are adoptees and have
 DNA matches to this same family, so I cannot disclose here on email but if
 you want to call me later this afternoon, I get home at 6 p.m ET
 401-572-1568

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 person is adopted and found a second cousin through a DNA match.  These new
 second cousin's grandparents are from Arrifes.  I am trying to find all the
 children of these grandparents.  This is what I have:

 Jose da Silva   Alexandria da Gloria.  Paternal : Manuel Silva  Albena
  Maternal:  Jose Correa da Motta  Maria de Jesus.
 This couple has a son:  Miguel da Silva Moniz DOB: 1907

 The other couple is:

 Manuel Cordeiro DOB: 1874  Maria deJesus DOB: 1880.  They married in Feb
 1897.  Paternal:  Joao Cordeiro  Maria deJesus.  Maternal:  Cesario dos
 Santos  Antonia deJesus da Costa.

 This couple has a daughter:  Deolinda DOB: 1909

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Arrifes

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Hi Theresa,

I am currently working well done. Doing we're the same family so I cannot
disclose here on email but if you want to call me later this afternoon I
get home at 6 p.m. or just realized that your time love George
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 second cousin's grandparents are from Arrifes.  I am trying to find all the
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 Jose da Silva   Alexandria da Gloria.  Paternal : Manuel Silva  Albena
  Maternal:  Jose Correa da Motta  Maria de Jesus.
 This couple has a son:  Miguel da Silva Moniz DOB: 1907

 The other couple is:

 Manuel Cordeiro DOB: 1874  Maria deJesus DOB: 1880.  They married in Feb
 1897.  Paternal:  Joao Cordeiro  Maria deJesus.  Maternal:  Cesario dos
 Santos  Antonia deJesus da Costa.

 This couple has a daughter:  Deolinda DOB: 1909

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

[George Pacheco]

Clara Luiz if you look at the R in Ribeira is much different,  to me it is
an L see attachment with just the record

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 ... son of Pedro Gonçalves and his wife Clara Roiz.

 Manoel

 Em quarta-feira, 1 de abril de 2015 21:12:05 UTC-3, Mara escreveu:

 .The date is as entered by Rickson of Pedro Goncalves and his wife
 (name is a guess of my part but it may be Maria Carvalho) residing in Sao
 Pedro, Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande.with Maria de Teves daughter of Joao de
 Teves and his wife Maria Ferreira.

 Margaret Vicente

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
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 *This is real difficult. I can make out some of it. The date is 5 Dec
 1641. The 4th line down it starts with Manuel Afonso son of Joao …….? and
 his wife ?  with Maria Teves? Daughter of Joao de Teves? And ???*



 *The writing is very faint making it difficult. Perhaps someone else can
 add to it.*



 *Rick*



 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*





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 Behalf Of *brownat68
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 Hello



 Can the last record on the right at this link be translated?



 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701_item1/P25.html



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

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Marcos Goncalves da Fonsequa (fonseca)

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 Hi Todd,

 April 15 1641 joined in marriage in the Parish of Santa Clara (now Sao
 Jose) Simao de Matos son of Francisco Goncalves and his wife Isabel de
 Matos, both deceased, with Maria Falcoa (Falcao) daughter of Marcos
 Goncalves da  ( I can't make out this word looks like Fonseca (Fonceca)
 and his wife Isabel de Nabais (Novais), both deceased.

 Take care,

 Margaret Vicente

 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:50 PM, brownat68 browna...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello

 Can someone translate the last records on the right for me?


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701_item1/P23.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help translating two words please (Coelho Soares Figueiredo lines)

[George Pacheco]

Jacinta, daughter of Jose Manuel Coelho, (Seareiro) farmer native of this
Parochial Church of the Apostolo São Pedro of the place called “Flor Rosa”
in this Island of Santa Maria, and of his wife Maria Jacinta de Figueiredo,
a native of the Parrish of Santa Barbara in the same Island.   Paternal
Granddaughter of Manuel Jose Coelho also a (Seareiro) farmer and of his
wife Maria Francisca and maternal of João Soares Figueredo and of his wife
Francisca Jacinta, natives of the said Santa Barbara, born at the 9th  day
of the  of the month of March 1841, and was baptized on the 21st day of the
said month and year, in the above mentioned Parish of São Pedro, where her
Parents are parishioners and being residents in the Place called “Feteiras”
of this same Parish, by me Bernardino Jose Toledo, Vicar of this Paris, the
Godfather was Francisco Soares Figueiredo and the Godmother Barbara Jacinta
both single and Maternal uncle and aunt of the Baptized child. Witnesses
were Luis Maria de Sousa, Mauricio Borges, both single man of this Parish
Village, with me they signed this document on the day month and year, As it
is above.

Vicar Bernardino Jose Toledo

Luis Maria de Jesus

Mauricio Borges







(Seareirro = He who plants seeds same as a farmer

Apostolo São Pedro –Apostle St Peter

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Bill, I think you may be right. My Portuguese dictionary has seareiro and
 it says a tiller, small farmer. So if that is correct, both father and son
 are farmers.

 Rosemarie
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 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:25 AM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote:

 The writing seems clear as siareiro which I could not find in my
 dictionary, but I did see the word on a google search, mostly on Spanish
 language links.  My wife suggested in my be an alternate spelling of
 seareiro which is a harvester.  The other word after the paternal
 grandfather is tambem (also).

 Bill Seidler


 On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 10:23:54 AM UTC-7, apor...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hi everyone;  I need help translating two words in this one.  I think
 Cheri gave me the meaning a couple of years ago but; I haven’t come across
 it since and I haven’t been able to find the meaning in my notes.  You can
 find the document here:

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
 VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845_item1/P92.html

 It is the baptism of Jacinta on the top right.  The words I can’t figure
 out are the word after the father’s name and the two words after the
 paternal grandfather’s name.  I suspect it has something to do with being
 a ‘sea man’ but; I could be completely off base with that idea.  Any help
 is much appreciated.  Below is what I have translated, if anyone would like
 to make corrections on my translation, any and all are much appreciated.
 Thank you all, Sam in Maz

 Jacinta, legitimate daughter of Jose Manoel Coelho,  native of this
 parochial church of the Apostle of Saint Peter, place of Flor da Rosalta,
 island of Santa Maria and of his wife, Maria Jacinta de Figueiredo, native
 of the parochial of Santa Barbara of this same island. Paternal grandson of
 Manoel Jose Coelho,  ?, and of his wife, Maria Francisca.
 Maternal of Joao Soares de Figueiredo and his wife, Francisca Jacinta,
 natives of this same parochial of Santa Barbara. Born on the 9th day of
 March 1841 , was baptized on the 2? of the same month and year, as the
 granddaughter said above, residents of the place of Feterias


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Strange Word after the father's name

[George Pacheco]

I have a database of 17,000 people I have never seen the name to Nina will
be the first I would love to see in myself too
On Mar 29, 2015 4:19 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi!

 Do you have a document with  Donina showing as a name? I would love to
see it. Because I have never seen it.

 Thanks!



 Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Strange Word after the father's name

[George Pacheco]

Thank you Margaret for the link I will add the name to my list of unusual
names
On Mar 29, 2015 5:49 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a database of 17,000 people I have never seen the name to Nina will
 be the first I would love to see in myself too
 On Mar 29, 2015 4:19 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi!
 
  Do you have a document with  Donina showing as a name? I would love to
 see it. Because I have never seen it.
 
  Thanks!
 
 
 
  Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
 
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  Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
 
  ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Strange Word after the father's name

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domino it is a nick name because it is in small letters domino is a game
On Mar 28, 2015 4:55 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote:

 On the lower left for Victoria daughter of JOAO de Souza donino??
 And his wife, Maria Martinez...

 Does anyone know what that means?  Thank you in advance


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1699-1706/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1699-1706_item1/P90.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA Site

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Still down its 3;15 ET now

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks I was just going to ask if it was.

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:13 AM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Strange Word after the father's name

[George Pacheco]

It is written donina on my phone looked like domino an his other children
Theresa in 1700, Joseph 1703, João 1704 the alcunha and neither is on his
marriage

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com
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 Sorry but for all it's worth the word is clearly not domino which would
 have an accent grave over the letter o.unless the priest made a
 mistake what he wrote was donina.  I would try finding other records to
 confirm one way or the other...

 Margaret Vicente

 On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 George- thanks- that is a bit unusual or as we say today  weird (?)

 Maria Elena

 On Mar 28, 2015, at 4:02 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 domino it is a nick name because it is in small letters domino is a game
 On Mar 28, 2015 4:55 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote:

 On the lower left for Victoria daughter of JOAO de Souza donino??
 And his wife, Maria Martinez...

 Does anyone know what that means?  Thank you in advance


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1699-1706/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1699-1706_item1/P90.html


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[AZORES-Genealogy] CA Site

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Site has been down for about an hour now

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Raposo, Medeiros, Vieira, Borges

[George Pacheco]

here is some of your family tree

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:46 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote:

 My great-great grandparents from Agua Retorta were Emilia Rosa de Medeiros
 (b. 1846) and her husband Manuel Bernardo Teixeira (b. 1831) also from Agua
 Retorta.

 Emilia Rosa was the daughter of Manuel Furtado from Nordestinho and
 Felicianna de Medeiros Sardinha from Agua Retorta.

 Manuel was the son of Manuel Furtado and Rosa de Medeiros.

 Felicianna was the daughter of Manuel Furtado Sardinha and Maria de
 Medeiros Barbosa.

 Bill Seidler


 On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 8:46:53 PM UTC-7, BrendaSP wrote:

 Anyone with links to these names in Povacao? I also have Medeiros Aqua
 Ritorta.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Galvão

[George Pacheco]

Hello everyone,

I sent this before from my phone, but auto correct took over and i was
sneaking the e-mail while working, didn't have time to check what i wrote.


I have been searching for a marriage record for  Jacinto de Medeiros Galvão
also known as Jacinto Inacio de Medeiros Galvão, he a native of Fenais da
Ajuda residing in the Matrix de São Jorge Nordeste,  he is married to Dona.
Jacinta Ricarda Galvão she from the Matrix of Nossa Senhora da Estrela
Ribeira Grande.
They would have been married before 1843 that is the date of the first
child was born finding the last child 1857.
 I have looked in Estrela RG in Sao Pedro Ribeira Seca, in São Jorge
Nordeste and in Fenais da Ajuda not married there either, my question has
anyone found their marriage?
I know they are in Rodrigo Rodrigues and he does not have the marriage date.

I have 6 children for them so far

Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Galvão

[George Pacheco]

Richard!
Thank you

I already have this one through the Victoria family, thanks gain

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

 *I have a Maria da Gloria daughter of Jose Manuel de Medeiros Galvao
 Married Jacinto Victoria on 3 Feb 1878 in Santissimo Salvador in
 Ribeirinha. She was the widow of Joao Moniz de Motta. Not sure where that
 marriage was, but it was not in Santisimo Salvador.*



 *Rick*



 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*





 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *George Pacheco
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2015 7:40 PM
 *To:* Azores-Gen
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Galvão



 Hello everyone,

 I sent this before from my phone, but auto correct took over and i was
 sneaking the e-mail while working, didn't have time to check what i wrote.


 I have been searching for a marriage record for  Jacinto de Medeiros
 Galvão also known as Jacinto Inacio de Medeiros Galvão, he a native of
 Fenais da Ajuda residing in the Matrix de São Jorge Nordeste,  he is
 married to Dona. Jacinta Ricarda Galvão she from the Matrix of Nossa
 Senhora da Estrela Ribeira Grande.
 They would have been married before 1843 that is the date of the first
 child was born finding the last child 1857.
  I have looked in Estrela RG in Sao Pedro Ribeira Seca, in São Jorge
 Nordeste and in Fenais da Ajuda not married there either, my question has
 anyone found their marriage?

 I know they are in Rodrigo Rodrigues and he does not have the marriage
 date.



 I have 6 children for them so far



 Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading record

[George Pacheco]

Francisco Pimentel filho de Manuel ? de Maria de Pimentel com Maria de
Paiva filha de João de Almeida e de Maria Carvalha
it look like Pereira all the other P in Pimentel is different and so is the
P in Paiva and the p in the abbreviation in Ponta Delgada  because he
is not consistent in his writing

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azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 I was inclined to Pereira :)
 Thank you

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 23, 2015, at 5:59 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Manoel Prra= Manoel Pereira

 JR

 On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 5:32:26 PM UTC-5, Azoreanno wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm having a hard time reading the surname of the parent of the groom.
 Francisco de Pimentel son of Manuel ... and Maria de Pimentel

 record on right side of the page Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores -
 Registos Paroquiais
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751_item1/P22.html


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 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751_item1/P22.html





 Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores - Registos Paroquiais
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751_item1/P22.html
 Conceição, Casamentos 1723-1751  0022 Tipo:image/jpeg  Tamanho:428 KB
 Visualizar em culturacores.azor...
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1723-1751_item1/P22.html
 Visualizado por Yahoo



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Born in Bretanha, Sao Miguel, in 1964

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I have offered my help,at no charge in order to help  I need to know the
names, I have the Salvador family on my database they related to me and Im
friends with some on Facebook
On Feb 19, 2015 1:46 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Repost for Sharlene Miranda-Salvador, irismac10 at verizon.net

 My husband was born in Bretanha, Azores in 1964. I have the names of both
 my in-laws, parents and grandparents but have had NO LUCK finding anything
 from Sao Miguel! Any help you could give me would be appreciated.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretenha,St. Miguel, Azores.

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E- mail me privately I can help you
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 Looking for any information on family names:  Victorino Alexandre, Jose
 Sousa Salvador, Victorino Carvalho.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting record NS Estrela 1798

[George Pacheco]

This is what i make of it.

Emo os 26 Dias do mes de Abril de 1798 apareceu neste Arquivo Manuel Moniz
da Costa Medidor e disse que a batizada era sua filha e que a não tinha
reconhecido por ser casado com Maria Pacheco, porem agora que  casada por
diz cargo de consciência  a sua declaração assinou na minha presença e das
testemunhas



On the 26 day of the month April 1798 appeared in this Archive Manuel Moniz
da Costa , Medidor and said the baptized was his daughter and that he had
not recognized for being married to Maria Pacheco , however now that she is
 married for  of the weight of his consciousness he declared and signed in
my presence and of the witnesses



Job description - Medidor – a men who measures

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 Not everything we read is quite the way we think especially almost 200
 years ago,  with a different culture and most especially when we don't keep
 it all in context.

 The birth record reads the Father appeared before the Priest on April 28th
 1798 to say the baptized was his daughter and that he was unable to
 perfilha-la recognize her because he was already married and he wanted to
 make it right (para descargo da sua consciencia).  In this case he was
 making honourable restitution to his daughter and her Mother and he did it
 the day before her wedding day, which of itself shows the 'drama' behind
 the scenes. He may have had to do that under new pressures like the
 groom's family.   He also was a witness at hi daughter's wedding.  So it
 all ties in nicely.



 Cheers.



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 That is what I make out! Most ike confess and own up to his  sin.
 :))
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 The discharge his conscience clear his conscience, get it off his
 chest?  Kinda along those lines?


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[AZORES-Genealogy] indexes of many Parishes are being posted on facebook

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the name of the group is Indice dos Registos Paroquiais dos Açores.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Geneology Researcher

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Hi Al,


Thank you for inquiring on my services,

My fee is 50.00 for every 3 hours with basic translation included.
If i have to order any document what  I spend to get them is what I charge
you. from CCA site I just save them and you get them with the research.

Thank you,

George Pacheco


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 Joao Ventura hero...@yahoo.com  was very prompt and helpful in finding my
 brickwall G. Grandfather back in 2013 in Cedros Flores :).

 *Ralph E. Sellars, Jr. *
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  I am wondering if anyone can recommend a person who does research for
 the island of  Flores. If you have used someone and liked their service
 that would be very helpful.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Little known history

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Thank you for sharing!

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 73 years ago... December 7, 1941 after the Attack on Pearl Harbor, 47
 Portuguese Tuna boats were converted into war ships and 600
 Portuguese/Azoreans  in San Diego and Hawaii were commissioned to serve the
 United States. Azorean  Fishermen became American warriors.Today we pay
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name Bretanha marriage

[George Pacheco]

Senra

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 Why are you in the group spam filter?  Ugh, computers make me wonder
 sometimes!

 Groom: Manuel da Senyra son of Manuel da Senyra.

 Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Marriage

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It is not Available here, I brought this from São Miguel i received this as
an exchange for genealogy back in 1998 or 2000.

Available in the Archive of Ponta Delgada

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 how can I get a copy of this? Could it come in PDF form instead of paper?
 I’m really interested in this. Thanks!

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 this is what i have that is not on the CCA site

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com
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 I also have Ernesto do Canto Bretanha marriages some as the mid 1500's
 not in order

 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

  *I have been looking for the marriage of Francisco da Rocha and
 Antonia Aguiar in the Bretanha records I estimate they were married around
 1749+-?. The marriage records for that time period 1703-1779 are a complete
 disaster and very hard to search. I have also looked in George Pacheco’s
 Book but he was not able to find it although he lists them as married(most
 likely from their sons marriage). I have also looked through the Carlos
 Machado disk form Fr. Viverios.*



 *This is the marriage of his son (Antonio Aguiar) on 15 Mar 1788 (left
 side)*

 *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html*



 *What I don’t have access with is Rodrigo Rogers and Ernesto Canto.
 Could they have noted this family?*





 *Rick*



 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Marriage

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There are many dates and many marriages  missing
and not in order

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 It is not Available here, I brought this from São Miguel i received this
 as an exchange for genealogy back in 1998 or 2000.

 Available in the Archive of Ponta Delgada

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 this is what i have that is not on the CCA site

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I also have Ernesto do Canto Bretanha marriages some as the mid 1500's
 not in order

 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

  *I have been looking for the marriage of Francisco da Rocha and
 Antonia Aguiar in the Bretanha records I estimate they were married around
 1749+-?. The marriage records for that time period 1703-1779 are a 
 complete
 disaster and very hard to search. I have also looked in George Pacheco’s
 Book but he was not able to find it although he lists them as married(most
 likely from their sons marriage). I have also looked through the Carlos
 Machado disk form Fr. Viverios.*



 *This is the marriage of his son (Antonio Aguiar) on 15 Mar 1788 (left
 side)*

 *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html*



 *What I don’t have access with is Rodrigo Rogers and Ernesto Canto.
 Could they have noted this family?*





 *Rick*



 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Marriage

[George Pacheco]

you're welcome Joanne,
Happy Thanks Giving

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 Thanks, George. Doesn’t hurt to ask! ;)

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 On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:07 AM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 There are many dates and many marriages  missing
 and not in order

 On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:06 AM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com
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 It is not Available here, I brought this from São Miguel i received this
 as an exchange for genealogy back in 1998 or 2000.

 Available in the Archive of Ponta Delgada

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 George,
 how can I get a copy of this? Could it come in PDF form instead of
 paper? I’m really interested in this. Thanks!

 Joanne Grota Mercier

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  this is what i have that is not on the CCA site

 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, George Pacheco 
 bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also have Ernesto do Canto Bretanha marriages some as the mid
 1500's not in order

 On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

  *I have been looking for the marriage of Francisco da Rocha and
 Antonia Aguiar in the Bretanha records I estimate they were married 
 around
 1749+-?. The marriage records for that time period 1703-1779 are a 
 complete
 disaster and very hard to search. I have also looked in George Pacheco’s
 Book but he was not able to find it although he lists them as 
 married(most
 likely from their sons marriage). I have also looked through the Carlos
 Machado disk form Fr. Viverios.*



 *This is the marriage of his son (Antonio Aguiar) on 15 Mar 1788
 (left side)*

 *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html*



 *What I don’t have access with is Rodrigo Rogers and Ernesto Canto.
 Could they have noted this family?*





 *Rick*



 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Marriage

[George Pacheco]

Richard, here it is
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P77.html



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 *I have been looking for the marriage of Francisco da Rocha and Antonia
 Aguiar in the Bretanha records I estimate they were married around 1749+-?.
 The marriage records for that time period 1703-1779 are a complete disaster
 and very hard to search. I have also looked in George Pacheco’s Book but he
 was not able to find it although he lists them as married(most likely from
 their sons marriage). I have also looked through the Carlos Machado disk
 form Fr. Viverios.*



 *This is the marriage of his son (Antonio Aguiar) on 15 Mar 1788 (left
 side)*

 *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html*



 *What I don’t have access with is Rodrigo Rogers and Ernesto Canto. Could
 they have noted this family?*





 *Rick*



 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Marriage

[George Pacheco]

I'm glad you think its your family i'm going to give you my opinion either
you take it or not  that is totally incorrect I have both lines way back
including all the children and all their marriages, the line Margaret found
there is no Rocha and that Aguiar comes from Mosteiros.

This Rocha family is one of my line
Francisco the Rocha's father is my 7th Great grandfather that is incognito
who comes from Graciosa, I just notice that that he was my grandfather my
first line from Graciosa and Rocha comes from his mother's line,

Best Wishes
George Pacheco

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 *I have been looking for the marriage of Francisco da Rocha and Antonia
 Aguiar in the Bretanha records I estimate they were married around 1749+-?.
 The marriage records for that time period 1703-1779 are a complete disaster
 and very hard to search. I have also looked in George Pacheco’s Book but he
 was not able to find it although he lists them as married(most likely from
 their sons marriage). I have also looked through the Carlos Machado disk
 form Fr. Viverios.*



 *This is the marriage of his son (Antonio Aguiar) on 15 Mar 1788 (left
 side)*

 *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1779-1802_item1/P49.html*



 *What I don’t have access with is Rodrigo Rogers and Ernesto Canto. Could
 they have noted this family?*





 *Rick*



 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Epping, NH*





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy books for sale

[George Pacheco]

Book 1 I have Notas Historicas Book 2 Anais Do Municipo da Calheta de são
Jorge, some pages are still together from the Publisher I had to separate
the pages they came sealed  together. no info missing pages are all
attached to the book but the edges are ripped due to separating them

Book 02
Memoria Genealogica das Familias Failenses,  like new



book 3 Out of Print already have an offer of $125.00 and have refused sale

 This book is no longer in Publish  was printed in 1995

Morgado João Arruda Botelho da Câmara

Title  Nota de Ernesto do Canto  Instituições Vinculares e Notas
Genealogicas

will send picture of books as asked by  e-mailing me  bretanha1...@yahoo.com


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Howland

[George Pacheco]

Thanks Dan I need to get that film for the FHC t r the collecting n
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 George, it;s formal name is The Church of England in Portugal. Anglican
 Chaplaincy Ponta Delgada - the Congregation was later named St George's
 Church. I believe there are three (3) manuscripts on (35mm) microfilm. I'm
 not sure how to access the film by computer, but, perhaps you can on the
 LDS Family History website.

 https://familysearch.org/catalog-search


 Anyway, the link below should clarify the information I posted.

 http://www.worldcat.org/title/parish-registers-1827-1955/oclc/865607454

 

 On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:32:29 PM UTC-4, Moreno22 wrote:

 Dan,
 I'm not familiar with a film for  St. George Episcopal in S.Miguel

 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Howland was somewhere in California on the 1860, 1870, and 1880 census.
 He naturalized in Mass and that record is noted as lost on the
 naturalization index.

 Don't know George's source for the island of Faial.  I just helped him
 out with a couple of California sources.  Don't know if Faial has any civil
 registry films available.



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 I also did a search on Family Search.org which listed a person of that
 name, minus the Garcia, christened in London, in 1860. His birthplace was
 given as the Isle of Man. Granted that this person could have been a
 relative, but it may have added more factual information that what has been
 revealed to date. Additionally, with all of the the varying dates, checking
 out the LDS films looks more viable. I mentioned it to George because I
 believe he still has access to the Dartmouth FHS, where the film collection
 includes all of the parishes in the Azores, including St. George Episcopal
 in S.Miguel.


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 I've pulled a few records from California for George.  This Howland
 guy is all over the place.  Depending on which source I look at, he could
 be born 1830, 1825, 1822, 1828.  He seems to stick with 1825 throughout 
 the
 1880s, but that doesn't make it the right date.  I think the guy was born
 sometime in the 1820s and that's as good as that's gonna get until his
 baptism is discovered.

 Someone is gonna need to test their DNA and then wait for significant
 matches to come in.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Howland

[George Pacheco]

Dan,
I'm not familiar with a film for  St. George Episcopal in S.Miguel

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Howland was somewhere in California on the 1860, 1870, and 1880 census.
 He naturalized in Mass and that record is noted as lost on the
 naturalization index.

 Don't know George's source for the island of Faial.  I just helped him out
 with a couple of California sources.  Don't know if Faial has any civil
 registry films available.



 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also did a search on Family Search.org which listed a person of that
 name, minus the Garcia, christened in London, in 1860. His birthplace was
 given as the Isle of Man. Granted that this person could have been a
 relative, but it may have added more factual information that what has been
 revealed to date. Additionally, with all of the the varying dates, checking
 out the LDS films looks more viable. I mentioned it to George because I
 believe he still has access to the Dartmouth FHS, where the film collection
 includes all of the parishes in the Azores, including St. George Episcopal
 in S.Miguel.


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 Dano,

 I've pulled a few records from California for George.  This Howland guy
 is all over the place.  Depending on which source I look at, he could be
 born 1830, 1825, 1822, 1828.  He seems to stick with 1825 throughout the
 1880s, but that doesn't make it the right date.  I think the guy was born
 sometime in the 1820s and that's as good as that's gonna get until his
 baptism is discovered.

 Someone is gonna need to test their DNA and then wait for significant
 matches to come in.
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Howland

[George Pacheco]

Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I appreciate it.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 George,

 I found him on Find-A-Grave for what it's worth:
 http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=grGRid=114877262

 Don't know if the guy who made the memorial has any other documentation or
 not.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Howland

[George Pacheco]

Has anyone heard the name William Robert Garcia Howland born 1820 ain Faial
I have looked in all 13 villages and did not find a baptism vote for him
yet his citizen papers say that he was born  in Faial

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] where to look before 1833 in Pico da Pedra

[George Pacheco]

Most records from pico da pedra before the church was built are in Rabo de
Peixe

George Pacheco
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 I went as far  back as I could in Pico da Pedra Records  and would like
to know which  area to resume search.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thomas de Souza Codeiro and Maria da Silva - Ginetes, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel

[George Pacheco]

The Record say Thome Cabral son of Manuel Cabral and of Maria Medeiros with
Maria Antonia dawghter of Thome Sousa and of Maria da Silva and I don't see
Cordeiro in his back Ground

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 this could be them. She shows as Maria de Sousa but her mother was a
 Silva. I would look at baptisms. Here is her first marriage to Jose de
 Pavia.



 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1724-1738/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1724-1738_item1/P61.html



 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1724-1738/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1724-1738_item1/P181.html

 On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 They married 20 Oct 1763


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1747-1782/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1747-1782_item1/P92.html

 On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 I have been looking for the marriage record of Thomas de Souza Cordeiro
 and Maria da Silva in Ginetes who were the parents of Maris Antonia who
 married Thomas Cabral in 1763 ( February?)

 Was wondering if anyone might have them in their tree or have come
 across them while researching in the area of Ginetes?

 Any hel or suggestions would greatly appreciated.

 Lee Estep,
 Oak Hill, WV

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

[George Pacheco]

I have Legacy,  I love it but having and not happy with it at the same time.

The problem i have  problems loosing data, every once in a while when
entering a new family.
 I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back up
my file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm
looking for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for
something better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I
tried TMG takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker
is the same.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

[George Pacheco]

I have 158342


On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote:

 How large is your data file? Legacy has a limit of 2 GB for the family
 file (extension is fdb.)



 Here is a link to some suggestions for dealing with data losses and some
 other ideas about why they occur--
 http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00944/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Data-Loss-How-can-I-stop-prevent-it.html
 .



 Also, their support is normally pretty responsive so if you can give them
 a clear picture of the problem and of what version of Legacy and what
 version of Windows, they should be able to help you. Here is the link for
 reporting problems:  http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Problems.asp



 Diane George



 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *George Pacheco
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:03 PM
 *To:* Azores-Gen
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program




 I have Legacy,  I love it but having and not happy with it at the same
 time.



 The problem i have  problems loosing data, every once in a while when
 entering a new family.

  I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back
 up my file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm
 looking for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for
 something better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I
 tried TMG takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker
 is the same.





 Thanks



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program

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Thank you everyone!

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote:

 You need to find out the file size by going to the folder where Legacy
 stores the Data; the folder name is usually “Data” and it is in the
 “LegacyFamilyTree” folder. If you used the default locations, the files are
 in the Documents folder in Windows. If you do exceed the limit, you may
 have to split your database into smaller “branches.”



 The file ends with the extension “.fdb.” That is what determines whether
 you have exceeded the file size limit. If you start looking at other
 programs, be sure to find out what the file size limitations are or you
 will run into similar problems.



 Diane George



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 *Sent:* Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:13 PM
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 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program



 I have 158342





 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Diane George digeorg...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 How large is your data file? Legacy has a limit of 2 GB for the family
 file (extension is fdb.)



 Here is a link to some suggestions for dealing with data losses and some
 other ideas about why they occur--
 http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00944/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Data-Loss-How-can-I-stop-prevent-it.html
 .



 Also, their support is normally pretty responsive so if you can give them
 a clear picture of the problem and of what version of Legacy and what
 version of Windows, they should be able to help you. Here is the link for
 reporting problems:  http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Problems.asp



 Diane George



 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *George Pacheco
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 07, 2014 3:03 PM
 *To:* Azores-Gen
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Program




 I have Legacy,  I love it but having and not happy with it at the same
 time.



 The problem i have  problems loosing data, every once in a while when
 entering a new family.

  I get and error and can't get rid of it until i do a file repair i back
 up my file and check if the last person i added is there, as days go by i'm
 looking for other data i have put in and it is all missing, looking for
 something better than Legacy that can handle my big File any suggestion, I
 tried TMG takes to long to upload my file and to search, Family tree maker
 is the same.





 Thanks



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bispo de Souza, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii, 1872-1924

[George Pacheco]

There are Sousa Bispo families in Arrifes, São Pedro Ponta Delgada and Sao
Jose Ponta Delgada


On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Repost for Shirley Allegre, shirldg at digitalpath.net

  Hi Everyone:  I am trying to help a friend find his ancestors.  I
 need all of you to keep an eye out for the following:

 Jose Bispo Bishop de Souza
 born:  28 Jan 1872, *Sao Miguel* island.  (Don't know which village.)
 died:  21 Nov 1924, Makawao, Maui, Hawaii
 Parents:
 Jose Souza X Amalia Raphael.

 Any and all help will be appreciated.  Thanks.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ginetes marriage in records for Mosteiros (Raposo again)?

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History Of Igreja de São Nicolau Sete Cidades

The temple was erected in fulfillment of a vow made in 1849 by Colonel
Nicolau Maria Raposo de Amaral  (1770-1865) and his wife, Teresa Ermelinda
Rebelo (1797-1895). The invocation was chosen St. Nicholas, bishop of Myra
in Lycia, buried in Bari, Italy, and therefore improperly designated as
bishop of Bari .1

The chosen site, with 25,000 square meters, had been previously acquired,
April 3, 1834, becoming a member of one primogeniture established by deed
since September 29, 1821. Design in Gothic Revival style was entrusted to
Manuel Lamberto Monteiro, which was also responsible for directing the
work, started in 1849 with the support of 60 workers. Was decisive for the
choice of location of the temple a spring of water nearby, which made the
temple stay relatively isolated. To provide you with access, we constructed
a mall cedar, headed today by two towering pines.

By deed of June 25, 1857 the temple was endowed with a sum of 2 $ 600
annual reis for their conservation. Subsequently, on May 11, 1859 received
a dowry to the oil lamp of the Blessed Sacrament.

The church was consecrated amid great festivity on August 16, 1857, with a
solemn Mass celebrated by the bishop of the Diocese of Angra, D. Frei
Estêvão de Jesus Maria.

The founders kept a chaplain, who had built the Passal, allowing the valley
population attend Mass, which, until then, was only possible in the
neighboring parishes. At the time, the place of the seven cities belonged
to the parishes and Ginetes and Mosteiros, separated by the bed of the
Ribeira da Praia, which came to be called, henceforth, Rua da Igreja.

The law of May 19, 1863, which abolished the morgadios in Portugal, made
​​this temple back to the ownership of its founders.

In the twentieth century, his heirs, no longer wishing to preserve it,
donated it to the people in 1969, which became the headquarters of curacy
in the parish office on 23 May of that same year. A little later, in 1971,
the Seven Cities were elevated to parish.


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:11 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Sete Cidades and its church, (S. Nicolau) is part of the Parish of
 Ginetes, and its church, is a mission (of sorts) of the Ginetes parish
 church. I do not see a separate set of books for Sete Cidades/S. Nicolau,
 so perhaps it is still not a separate parish.
 Várzea was a part of Ginetes. It's church, Jesus Maria e José was a
 suffragan of the Ginetes parish church and only begins having its own
 registries of births, marriages and deaths in 1904.


   On Thursday, July 3, 2014 8:00 AM, Margaret Vicente 
 margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote:


 The marriage record reads: nesta igreja de Sao Nicolau sufraganea da
 Paroquial de Sao Sebastiao do lugar dos Ginetes
 Translating to in this church of S. Nicolau suffragan/subordinate of S.
 Sebastiao's Parish of Ginetes'|




 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:29 PM, IslandRoutes 
 insearchofthehumanspi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh gosh!  I am so sorry to everyone that that other link was posted.  I
 have no idea how I did that.  I'm am red with embarrasment.

 This is the correct link for the marriage record in Mosteiros for Manoel
 Raposo and Maria Albina. The record seems to say they were married in Sete
 Cidades and Ginetes, though I know that is not possible.  The record is in
 the book for marriages in Mosteiros.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1870-1879_item1/P3.html

 Thanks and my sincere apologies to all!

 Mel

 On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 7:36:42 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:

 Mel,

 It's all dependent of which church headed which parishes.  But as far as I
 know Ginetes is separate from Mosteiros.  Please try resending the correct
 link.

 Sete Cidades Chapel was built mid 1800's and until such time it received
 its own priest Sete Cidades was under Ginetes and Mosteiros.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ginetes marriage in records for Mosteiros (Raposo again)?

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History [edit | edit source code]

The temple was erected in fulfillment of a vow made in 1849 by Colonel
Nicolau Maria Raposo de Amaral  (1770-1865) and his wife, Teresa Ermelinda
Rebelo (1797-1895). The invocation was chosen St. Nicholas, bishop of Myra
in Lycia, buried in Bari, Italy, and therefore improperly designated as
bishop of Bari .1

The chosen site, with 25,000 square meters, had been previously acquired,
April 3, 1834, becoming a member of one primogeniture established by deed
since September 29, 1821. Design in Gothic Revival style was entrusted to
Manuel Lamberto Monteiro, which was also responsible for directing the
work, started in 1849 with the support of 60 workers. Was decisive for the
choice of location of the temple a spring of water nearby, which made the
temple stay relatively isolated. To provide you with access, we constructed
a mall cedar, headed today by two towering pines.

By deed of June 25, 1857 the temple was endowed with a sum of 2 $ 600
annual reis for their conservation. Subsequently, on May 11, 1859 received
a dowry to the oil lamp of the Blessed Sacrament.

The church was consecrated amid great festivity on August 16, 1857, with a
solemn Mass celebrated by the bishop of the Diocese of Angra, D. Frei
Estêvão de Jesus Maria.

The founders kept a chaplain, who had built the Passal, allowing the valley
population attend Mass, which, until then, was only possible in the
neighboring parishes. At the time, the place of the Sete Cidades belonged
to the parishes and Ginetes and Mosteiros, separated by the bed of the
Ribeira da Praia, which came to be called, henceforth, Rua da Igreja.

The law of May 19, 1863, which abolished the morgadios in Portugal, made
​​this temple back to the ownership of its founders.

In the twentieth century, his heirs, no longer wishing to preserve it,
donated it to the people in 1969, which became the headquarters of curacy
in the parish office on 23 May of that same year. A little later, in 1971,
the Sete Cidades were elevated to parish.


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:11 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Sete Cidades and its church, (S. Nicolau) is part of the Parish of
 Ginetes, and its church, is a mission (of sorts) of the Ginetes parish
 church. I do not see a separate set of books for Sete Cidades/S. Nicolau,
 so perhaps it is still not a separate parish.
 Várzea was a part of Ginetes. It's church, Jesus Maria e José was a
 suffragan of the Ginetes parish church and only begins having its own
 registries of births, marriages and deaths in 1904.


   On Thursday, July 3, 2014 8:00 AM, Margaret Vicente 
 margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote:


 The marriage record reads: nesta igreja de Sao Nicolau sufraganea da
 Paroquial de Sao Sebastiao do lugar dos Ginetes
 Translating to in this church of S. Nicolau suffragan/subordinate of S.
 Sebastiao's Parish of Ginetes'|




 On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:29 PM, IslandRoutes 
 insearchofthehumanspi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh gosh!  I am so sorry to everyone that that other link was posted.  I
 have no idea how I did that.  I'm am red with embarrasment.

 This is the correct link for the marriage record in Mosteiros for Manoel
 Raposo and Maria Albina. The record seems to say they were married in Sete
 Cidades and Ginetes, though I know that is not possible.  The record is in
 the book for marriages in Mosteiros.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1870-1879_item1/P3.html

 Thanks and my sincere apologies to all!

 Mel

 On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 7:36:42 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:

 Mel,

 It's all dependent of which church headed which parishes.  But as far as I
 know Ginetes is separate from Mosteiros.  Please try resending the correct
 link.

 Sete Cidades Chapel was built mid 1800's and until such time it received
 its own priest Sete Cidades was under Ginetes and Mosteiros.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help please..

[George Pacheco]

here is the margin Notes for Maria number 8

Number 8



Civil marriage on this conservatory of the Civil Registry of Horta

On the 18th of July 1925 with João Silveira Peixoto .

Marriage record number 58 of 1925. Recorded on the 26th of November 1984 .
Adelie Capote.



Number 2 The marriage was dissolved by the death of the husband on the 26th
of November 1984. And on the marriage record number 58 of 1925, Recorded 26
th of November 1984Adelie  (Adelio?)Capote

Number 3

Died today in the Village of Praia de Norte, Municipality of Horta.

Record of Obit number 210 of 1987.

Recorded on the 27 of November 1987.


On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Rodney Figueiredo rodn...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Edna,

 The Maria recorded here married a João Silveira Peixoto on July 18, 1925.
  Her husband died November 26, 1984.  She died November 27, 1987.

 The José married an Emilia Gomes Pereira on September 7, 1927.  His wife
 passed away on March 8, 1967.  He died October 12, 1978 in Boston.


 On Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:05:06 PM UTC-4, dave-edna wrote:

   *Both of these birth records have a lot of writing in the margin.  I
 “think” they “may” have married each other.  One is nephew of my
 Grandfather, and one is niece of my Grandmother.*
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-
 HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-
 1911_item1/P128.html* This is Maria record No 8 bottom left and top
 right.  The marriage dates on both records look the same, but the death
 dates for Maria I’m not sure of.  *

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-
 HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-
 1911_item1/P122.html*  This is for Jose, Record No 15 bottom left and
 top right.  I think Jose died on 10-12-1978 in Boston, Suffolk, Ma. USA.*

 *I think I asked about Maria before, but today my mind is going crazy
 trying to get all these people recorded correctly in my records, so I need
 some more minds and brains to help out.*
 *Thanks.*
 *Edna Lemos Epps*






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 to you; He rises to show you compassion. For the Lord is a Godof justice,
 Blessed are all who wait for Him*

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] parish priest rosario lagos, san michael, azores

[George Pacheco]

All Towns have their own Cemetery, might not all be next to the Church, but
they have one give you an example, Bretanha is not a county its a village
in it was 3 section Ajuda, Pilar Remedios all had their own cemetery,

Cemitério de Santa Cruz na Lagoa (São Miguel)
Religião  Cemitério

Avenida da Igualdade
9560-020 Lagoa, Lagoa (São Miguel)




Cemitério do Cabouco na Lagoa (São Miguel)
Religião  Cemitério

Cabouco
9560 Cabouco, Lagoa (São Miguel)



Cemitério de Água de Pau na Lagoa (São Miguel)
Religião  Cemitério

Rua Manuel Egídio de Medeiros
9560-246 Água de Pau, Lagoa (São Miguel)




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 Hi Barbara,

 There's only one public cemetery.  It is the Cemetery of Sao Joaquim and
 is located in Ponta Delgada, neighbouring city.  Have a look here:


 http://pt.geoview.info/cemiterio_de_sao_joaquim_ponta_delgada_sao_miguel_island_azores_%C2%A6_pilago,81428915p

 for the church of N. Sra do Rosario of Lagoa;

 Igreja Nossa Senhora do 
 Rosáriohttp://www.yellowpages.pai.pt/igreja-nossa-senhora-do-rosario-lagoa-9560-085/
  Rua Padre Mariano F Mendonça 3, Lagoa
 9560-085 LAGOA (SÃO MIGUEL)
 TEL #   912 400

 *011 + 351 + 296 + The Number*




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 Are you referring to Lagoa on Sao Miguel island?  There's a church there
 named Nossa Senhora do Rosario.

 If you are trying to find a cemetery burial record, you most likely
 won't.  Unless the family has been paying a fee all these years, the grave
 has been reused for someone more recently deceased.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] parish priest rosario lagos, san michael, azores

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Every Municipality has various cemeteries with in its Villages


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:42 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote:

 All Towns have their own Cemetery, might not all be next to the Church,
 but they have one give you an example, Bretanha is not a county its a
 village in it was 3 section Ajuda, Pilar Remedios all had their own
 cemetery,

 Cemitério de Santa Cruz na Lagoa (São Miguel)
 Religião  Cemitério

 Avenida da Igualdade
 9560-020 Lagoa, Lagoa (São Miguel)




 Cemitério do Cabouco na Lagoa (São Miguel)
 Religião  Cemitério

 Cabouco
 9560 Cabouco, Lagoa (São Miguel)



 Cemitério de Água de Pau na Lagoa (São Miguel)
 Religião  Cemitério

 Rua Manuel Egídio de Medeiros
 9560-246 Água de Pau, Lagoa (São Miguel)




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 Hi Barbara,

 There's only one public cemetery.  It is the Cemetery of Sao Joaquim and
 is located in Ponta Delgada, neighbouring city.  Have a look here:


 http://pt.geoview.info/cemiterio_de_sao_joaquim_ponta_delgada_sao_miguel_island_azores_%C2%A6_pilago,81428915p

 for the church of N. Sra do Rosario of Lagoa;

 Igreja Nossa Senhora do 
 Rosáriohttp://www.yellowpages.pai.pt/igreja-nossa-senhora-do-rosario-lagoa-9560-085/
  Rua Padre Mariano F Mendonça 3, Lagoa
 9560-085 LAGOA (SÃO MIGUEL)
 TEL #   912 400

 *011 + 351 + 296 + The Number*




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Porto Formoso Index

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Check Porto Formoso  the marriage of a Manuel Correia on the 15 Feb
1705, in Porto Formoso see who he marries in Porto Formoso


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 Caro,

 Busco mais informações sobre os pais de Maria da graça,batizada no Porto
 Formoso e  casada nos Ginetes a 15.11.1736, c. Mateus Raposo. Estou na
 dúvida se a mãe desta Maria era Maria Carreiro ou Carneiro, creio que só
 pesquisando os batismos de casal Maria Carreiro (Carneira?) e Manuel
 Correia será possível tirar a dúvida

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  Hi Márcio!

 Podes dar mais pormenores? Tenho vários Manuel Correia, mas não casados
 com Maria Carreiro...

 Can you add some more detail? I have some Manuel Correia although they are
 not married to any Maria Carreiro...


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Vicente Ferreira parish, S. Miguel island

[George Pacheco]

Márcio

Early Marriage of people of  São Vicente Ferreira are in Fenais da Luz


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 Ups... you're right lol

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   Em Segunda-feira, 20 de Janeiro de 2014 18:40, João Ventura 
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  Olá, Márcio

 According to the info I've got on http://tombo.pt/f/pdl19, this parish
 was branched off São Pedro in 1838.

 João C. Ventura
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 Does anyone know if the Parish of Sao Vicente Ferreira in S. Miguel was
 part of another parish at some point?? Seems to be part of Ponta Delgada
 District but I dont see it up on CCA. Are they still working on Ponta
 Delgada?? Since they been adding Vila Franca parishes I thought Ponta
 Delgada was done.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] thank you

[George Pacheco]

John its Pat (Mello ) Sylvia


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 Pat Corbera? Welcome back stranger! It's been a few years since we've
 communicated. Dartmouth, Mass you say. You might know my cousin Enid
 (Vasconcellos) Silva. Her father was my first cousin.

  About 65 degrees in South Pasadena, Ca (But boy, are we having a drought
 to say nothing of the brush fires!)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO

[George Pacheco]

I have Moreno in Bretanha and Santo Antonio.


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 I have a George/Jorge Moreno who married Paula de Resendes, their daughter
 Barbara de Resendes married in Vila Franco do Campo in 1711


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 Moreno stuff:



 -  As far as we know, MORENO comes from a nickname of an Old
 Spanish Family. The word for dark skinned people was (back then) PARDO
 (man) or PARDA (woman).

 -  I have a direct ancestor named MORENO.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO

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Mi Manoel,

The Morenno's in Santo Antonio are Father Jose Viveiros family, my Moreno
in Bretanha.

I Have Manuel Moreno who maried Maria Cabral March 1703 son of Antonio
Moreno and Maria Soares unfortunately the Records don't go back to prove
it, I believe it to be the same family.
 Maria Cabral the daughter of Manuel Afonso and of Barbara Cabral


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 Hi George,

 I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
 Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They are
 parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with Vital
 da Costa Rodovalho.
 Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a
 line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.

 Manoel Cesar Furtado

 Em domingo, 12 de janeiro de 2014 12h00min02s UTC-2, Moreno22 escreveu:

 I have Moreno in Bretanha and Santo Antonio.


 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Pam Santos pamsa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a George/Jorge Moreno who married Paula de Resendes, their
 daughter Barbara de Resendes married in Vila Franco do Campo in 1711


 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
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 Moreno stuff:



 -  As far as we know, MORENO comes from a nickname of an Old
 Spanish Family. The word for dark skinned people was (back then) PARDO
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel

[George Pacheco]

The Rodovalho family can be found in São Miguel in the villages of Santo
Antonio, Capelas, Rabo de Peixe, Santo Antonio Alem Capelas, Fenais da Luz,
Rosario Lagoa, Relva, Estrela Ribeira Grande, Santa Clara Ponta Delgada,
São Pedro, Ponta Delgada,  São Sebastião Ponta Delgada, Mosteiros, Vila
Franca, the name exits from 1584 to today still some Rodovalho's in Capelas.

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 Hi Manoel,

 From your message, I see Rodovalho is not a recent introduction to Sao
 Miguel. I thought maybe it came over from Terceira.

 Are you lucky enough to have older generations mentioned by Rodrigo
 Rodrigues?

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 From: mances man...@gmail.com
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 Hi George,

 I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
 Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They are
 parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with Vital
 da Costa Rodovalho.
 Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a
 line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel

[George Pacheco]

Doug that is only what I have on my database, not what is in the whole
Island..


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:

 That's all? You mean they didn't live anywhere else? :-)

 I suppose the 1584 date is what you can find now in records. If that is
 when they arrived, then I suppose they did come over from Terceira, because
 it's at least another 100 years older on Terceira.

 I have a line from Pico and one from Terceira, but haven't yet hooked them
 up to the tronco.

 Thanks for the info, Jorge.

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618
 www.dholmes.com


   Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel
 From: George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 10:03 am
 To: Azores-Gen azores@googlegroups.com

 The Rodovalho family can be found in São Miguel in the villages of Santo
 Antonio, Capelas, Rabo de Peixe, Santo Antonio Alem Capelas, Fenais da Luz,
 Rosario Lagoa, Relva, Estrela Ribeira Grande, Santa Clara Ponta Delgada,
 São Pedro, Ponta Delgada,  São Sebastião Ponta Delgada, Mosteiros, Vila
 Franca, the name exits from 1584 to today still some Rodovalho's in Capelas.

 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:

 Hi Manoel,

 From your message, I see Rodovalho is not a recent introduction to Sao
 Miguel. I thought maybe it came over from Terceira.

 Are you lucky enough to have older generations mentioned by Rodrigo
 Rodrigues?

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618
 www.dholmes.com


   Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO
 From: mances man...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 8:15 am
 To: azores@googlegroups.com

 Hi George,

 I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
 Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They
 are parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with
 Vital da Costa Rodovalho.
 Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a
 line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.

 Manoel Cesar Furtado

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel

[George Pacheco]

I have a Braz do Rego Rodovalho in Ribeira Grande in Jan 1569


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:42 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote:

 Doug that is only what I have on my database, not what is in the whole
 Island..


 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:14 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:

 That's all? You mean they didn't live anywhere else? :-)

 I suppose the 1584 date is what you can find now in records. If that is
 when they arrived, then I suppose they did come over from Terceira, because
 it's at least another 100 years older on Terceira.

 I have a line from Pico and one from Terceira, but haven't yet hooked
 them up to the tronco.

 Thanks for the info, Jorge.

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
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 916-550-1618
 www.dholmes.com


   Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodovalho of Sao Miguel
 From: George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 10:03 am
 To: Azores-Gen azores@googlegroups.com

 The Rodovalho family can be found in São Miguel in the villages of Santo
 Antonio, Capelas, Rabo de Peixe, Santo Antonio Alem Capelas, Fenais da Luz,
 Rosario Lagoa, Relva, Estrela Ribeira Grande, Santa Clara Ponta Delgada,
 São Pedro, Ponta Delgada,  São Sebastião Ponta Delgada, Mosteiros, Vila
 Franca, the name exits from 1584 to today still some Rodovalho's in Capelas.

 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:09 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:

 Hi Manoel,

 From your message, I see Rodovalho is not a recent introduction to Sao
 Miguel. I thought maybe it came over from Terceira.

 Are you lucky enough to have older generations mentioned by Rodrigo
 Rodrigues?

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618
 www.dholmes.com


   Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MORENO
 From: mances man...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, January 12, 2014 8:15 am
 To: azores@googlegroups.com

 Hi George,

 I also have Moreno in Santo Antonio:
 Manuel Soares Moreno, married before 1629 with Isabel de Almeida. They
 are parents of Maria Soares who m. on 4 april 1629 in Santo Antonio with
 Vital da Costa Rodovalho.
 Manuel Soares Moreno is the son of the capitão Marcos Afonso Moreno, a
 line that goes back to João Afonso Moreno, according to RR - chapter 96.

 Manoel Cesar Furtado

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Book Marriages of Cedros, Faial, Acores, etc. by L.P. Silva

[George Pacheco]

There is also a copy at north Dartmouth FHC, Leo was a patron there in the
book there is a note of thanks to me for helping him translate his
dedication, I believe New Bedford public library might have one too
On Sep 1, 2013 5:01 AM, fia...@comcast.net wrote:

 I am looking for information about the book Marriages of Cedros, Faial,
 Acores, Parish of Santa Barbara 1628-1891 by Lionel P. Silva.  My searches
 so far have identified one copy in the research library of the Univ of Mass
 but they don't distribute it as a loaner.  I live in northern California
 and the trip would be a bit much for this old guy.  Does anyone know of
 other copies that I might access?  My father's family lived in the
 Salao/Cedros area during the 18th and 19th centuries, maybe even in the
 17th.  All suggestions would be much appreciated.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismo

[George Pacheco]

Official de Pedreiro, that is his Job Occupation Stone Mason


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 Paul G.
 It looks like official of Pedreira, which is a small village in Nordeste
 just a few miles north of Agua Retorta, Povocao.My grandparents were
 from Pedreira.

 Judi
 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:49 AM, Paul pagome...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hello All:

 While looking through baptismo records for Mae de Deus, Povoacao (trying
 to find sibilings of my great grandfather) I've noticed quite a few of them
 have 'official de ??' after the father's name instead of
 campones, trabalhador, etc.. What does this mean? Is the father part of a
 higher class or a government person? The attached baptismo record is *not*a 
 family members, just being used for an example.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

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Hello Manoel I have a book called os pimenteis I beloved it has them in it
I will check after I leave the hospital.
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:
 John,



 Thank you so much.



 You know that RR doesn´t list Leonor Manuel as daughter of João Afonso, o
Velho, but Miguel Corte Real does and says that she married Antonio
Fernandes Furtado who according to RR married Águeda Afonso.

 I’ve been looking through all the baptism records of Faial da Terra from
1555 to 1700 and noticed that it´s possible that Antonio Fernandes Furtado
married twice.

 Does MCR mention any notarial document to prove his marriage with Leonor
Manuel?



 After researching all baptisms and godparents in Faial da Terra in this
time period I believe that João Roiz Monte (b. 18 dec 1605 – CCA #50) is
the son of Antonio Afonso and Francisca Roiz, paternal grandson of Pedro
Cordeiro, o velho, and Francisca Jorge, and maternal grandson of Amador do
Monte and Branca Manuel.



 Manoel

 Em terça-feira, 16 de julho de 2013 13h39min22s UTC-3, John Raposo
escreveu:

 Here is whatt Miguel de Figueiredo Corte-Real, of happy memory, has to
say in his Descendentes dos Condes de Benavente radicados nos Açores desde
o Século XV (Estudo Histórico Genealógico published in the Boletim
do  Instituto Histórico da Ilha Terceira:

 p. 71: I, João Afonso de Pimentel, o velho, x, Catarina Manuel, daughter
of Manuel Domingues and Isabel Manuel
p. 91:  II. Leonor Manuel x. António Fernandes Furtado:
 p. 91. Maria Manuel x. Roque Álvares
 p. 91-92: Ana Afonso, b. FdT 10.1.1563 x Jorge Afonso, son
of Afonso Álvares and Maria Gonçalves
 p. 92: Susana Afonso, b. FdT 15.3.1587 x. Gregório
Rebelo Carreiro, son of Manuel Vaz Carreiro from Água Retorta, ad Joana
Ferreira.
 p. 93: Ana Afonso, b. 17.5.1612 in Fail da terra; x,
Capt, João Roiz do Monte, Com Geração.

 Here is what I have, for what it is worth:


 Ahnentafel Chart for Francisca Inacia Rebelo or Roiz


 First Generation

   1. Francisca Inacia Rebelo or Roiz  was born on 14 Jun 1648 in
Faial da Terra- NS da Graca. She died before 18 Aug 1725.
 Francisca married Manuel Pereira Fagundes  son of Antonio Fagundes
Alferes and Catarina Pereira in Faial da Terra- NS da G
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:26 AM
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

 Does anyone have the article written by Miguel de Figueiredo Corte-Real
published in the Boletim do Instituto Histórico da Ilha Terceira, Separata
do Volume XLIV – 1986, “Descendentes dos Condes de Benavente Radicados nos
Açores desde o século XV” ?

 I descend from Ana Afonso married to capitão João Roiz Monte from Faial
da Terra, S. Miguel. I’ve read in the family search website that according
to Miguel de Figueiredo Corte-Real Ana Afonso was born in Faial da Terra on
11 may 1612, and was daughter of Gregório Rebelo [Carreiro] and Susana
Afonso de Pimentel. All her ancestry way back to the settlers João Afonso
das Grotas Fundas and Rodrigo Afonso [Furtado] is in this work by Miguel
Corte-Real.
 I am curious about the notarial documentation used to prove this
connection.
 Manoel Cesar Furtado
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Record

[George Pacheco]

This is what I can make of it


Francisco Tavares

Maria Jorge



On the 22nd day of the month of January of 1836, Received in front of the
Congregation and proceeding the denunciations and ordinations of the
council Tridentine, Roman Ritual; Francisco Tavares son of  Manuel
Rodrigues and of his wife Maria Tavares deceased, inhabitants in this
village, with Maria Jorge daughter of Simão Lopes deceased and of his wife
 Ana Gonçalves, inhabitants of the village of Capelas, Witnesses were
Melchior Barradas Tavares (Fran.. or Man) George­ and Ana Jorge wife of
Gaspar Gonçalves Minz and Ana Gonçalves wife of Balthazar Gonçalves all of
this Village


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 Thanks


 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:04 AM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pam,

 In short, here's what I read:

 22 de janeiro de 1632.

 Francisco Tavares filho de Manuel Rodrigues e de sua mulher Maria
 Tavares, defuntos, moradores que foram nesta freguesia.

 Maria Jorge filha de Simão Lopes de Teves e de sua mulher Ana Gonçalves,
 moradores que foram nas Capelas.


 Manoel

 Em terça-feira, 18 de junho de 2013 02h04min00s UTC-3, Pam Santos
 escreveu:

 Thanks, well maybe it doesn't say Rabo de Peixe, what I should of said
 is that is where the marriage took place. Does it state by chance where
 Francisco Tavares's or his parents were from? Mainly concerned with him,
 since Maria Jorge is 1st wife and my kids are related to Francisco Tavares
 and his 2nd wife.


 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Margaret Vicente 
 margare...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Pam,

 I will need a little time to be able to decipher it but can tell you
 the date is January i/o December.  It seems to be listing just one parent
 and I'm reading Rodrigues as the surname.  Regarding and of his wife Maria
 Tavares.  The bride,  Maria Jorge daughter of Simao Lopes de xx? and of his
 wife Ana Goncalves all of whom lived in Capelas.

 Not very good but I would need to see more of the priests writing to be
 able to match some of the letters, sorry.

 Margaret


 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Pam Santos pamsa...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think it says marriage on 22 Dec 1632 in Rabo de Peixe and his
 father's name I can't make out  ?  Rodrigues and wife Maria Tavares his
 wife Maria Jorge's parents (can't make out fathers name) and wife Anna
 Goncalves. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Record

[George Pacheco]

typo 1636 not 1836


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote:

 This is what I can make of it


 Francisco Tavares

 Maria Jorge



 On the 22nd day of the month of January of 1836, Received in front of the
 Congregation and proceeding the denunciations and ordinations of the
 council Tridentine, Roman Ritual; Francisco Tavares son of  Manuel
 Rodrigues and of his wife Maria Tavares deceased, inhabitants in this
 village, with Maria Jorge daughter of Simão Lopes deceased and of his wife
  Ana Gonçalves, inhabitants of the village of Capelas, Witnesses were
 Melchior Barradas Tavares (Fran.. or Man) George­ and Ana Jorge wife of
 Gaspar Gonçalves Minz and Ana Gonçalves wife of Balthazar Gonçalves all of
 this Village


 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks


 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:04 AM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pam,

 In short, here's what I read:

 22 de janeiro de 1632.

 Francisco Tavares filho de Manuel Rodrigues e de sua mulher Maria
 Tavares, defuntos, moradores que foram nesta freguesia.

 Maria Jorge filha de Simão Lopes de Teves e de sua mulher Ana Gonçalves,
 moradores que foram nas Capelas.


 Manoel

 Em terça-feira, 18 de junho de 2013 02h04min00s UTC-3, Pam Santos
 escreveu:

 Thanks, well maybe it doesn't say Rabo de Peixe, what I should of said
 is that is where the marriage took place. Does it state by chance where
 Francisco Tavares's or his parents were from? Mainly concerned with him,
 since Maria Jorge is 1st wife and my kids are related to Francisco Tavares
 and his 2nd wife.


 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Margaret Vicente margare...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi Pam,

 I will need a little time to be able to decipher it but can tell you
 the date is January i/o December.  It seems to be listing just one parent
 and I'm reading Rodrigues as the surname.  Regarding and of his wife Maria
 Tavares.  The bride,  Maria Jorge daughter of Simao Lopes de xx? and of 
 his
 wife Ana Goncalves all of whom lived in Capelas.

 Not very good but I would need to see more of the priests writing to
 be able to match some of the letters, sorry.

 Margaret


 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Pam Santos pamsa...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think it says marriage on 22 Dec 1632 in Rabo de Peixe and his
 father's name I can't make out  ?  Rodrigues and wife Maria Tavares his
 wife Maria Jorge's parents (can't make out fathers name) and wife Anna
 Goncalves. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Record

[George Pacheco]

On the 22nd day of the month of January of 1636, Received in front of the
Congregation and proceeding the denunciations and ordinations of the
council Tridentine, Roman Ritual; Francisco Tavares son of  Manuel
Rodrigues and of his wife Maria Tavares deceased, inhabitants in this
village, with Maria Jorge daughter of Simão Lopes deceased and of his wife
 Ana Gonçalves, inhabitants of the village of Capelas, Witnesses were
Melchior Barradas Tavares (Fran.. or Man) George­ and Ana Jorge wife of
Gaspar Gonçalves Minz and Ana Gonçalves wife of Balthazar Gonçalves all of
this Village


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:06 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote:

 typo 1636 not 1836


 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM, George Pacheco 
 bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote:

 This is what I can make of it


 Francisco Tavares

 Maria Jorge



 On the 22nd day of the month of January of 1836, Received in front of
 the Congregation and proceeding the denunciations and ordinations of the
 council Tridentine, Roman Ritual; Francisco Tavares son of  Manuel
 Rodrigues and of his wife Maria Tavares deceased, inhabitants in this
 village, with Maria Jorge daughter of Simão Lopes deceased and of his wife
  Ana Gonçalves, inhabitants of the village of Capelas, Witnesses were
 Melchior Barradas Tavares (Fran.. or Man) George­ and Ana Jorge wife of
 Gaspar Gonçalves Minz and Ana Gonçalves wife of Balthazar Gonçalves all of
 this Village


 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks


 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 7:04 AM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pam,

 In short, here's what I read:

 22 de janeiro de 1632.

 Francisco Tavares filho de Manuel Rodrigues e de sua mulher Maria
 Tavares, defuntos, moradores que foram nesta freguesia.

 Maria Jorge filha de Simão Lopes de Teves e de sua mulher Ana
 Gonçalves, moradores que foram nas Capelas.


 Manoel

 Em terça-feira, 18 de junho de 2013 02h04min00s UTC-3, Pam Santos
 escreveu:

 Thanks, well maybe it doesn't say Rabo de Peixe, what I should of said
 is that is where the marriage took place. Does it state by chance where
 Francisco Tavares's or his parents were from? Mainly concerned with him,
 since Maria Jorge is 1st wife and my kids are related to Francisco Tavares
 and his 2nd wife.


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 margare...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pam,

 I will need a little time to be able to decipher it but can tell you
 the date is January i/o December.  It seems to be listing just one parent
 and I'm reading Rodrigues as the surname.  Regarding and of his wife 
 Maria
 Tavares.  The bride,  Maria Jorge daughter of Simao Lopes de xx? and of 
 his
 wife Ana Goncalves all of whom lived in Capelas.

 Not very good but I would need to see more of the priests writing to
 be able to match some of the letters, sorry.

 Margaret


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 I think it says marriage on 22 Dec 1632 in Rabo de Peixe and his
 father's name I can't make out  ?  Rodrigues and wife Maria Tavares his
 wife Maria Jorge's parents (can't make out fathers name) and wife Anna
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodrigo Rodrigues Book and Instituições Vinculares 1 for sale

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Hi everyone, Thank you for all your kind words, I have early stage of Colon
Cancer got diagnosed e, and will be operated on within the next 2 weeks,
the good thing I went in time o have myself checked.
Thank you!

George Pacheco


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 George
 Sorry to hear about your health problems and that you have to part with
 your treasures.
 Hope that you recover from whatever is hailing you.
 Easy for me to say, but keep your chin up!
 God Bless.
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rodrigo Rodrigues Book and Instituições
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 Hello,

 I am going to put 2 of my Books for Sale the 1st book of Rodrigo Rodrigues
 Genealogias de São Miguel and Santa Maria Notas de Ernesto do Canto 
 Instituições
 Vinculares  e Nota Genealogicas for Sale and  . I'm going to have my son
 put in auction. on Friday i think he uses e-may, need to raise money for my
 Medical expenses coming up. Might have other books i will have to think
 about it first I hate to part with them, nut have to. Both book are no
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Rodrigo Rodrigues Book and Instituições Vinculares 1 for sale

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Hello,

I am going to put 2 of my Books for Sale the 1st book of Rodrigo Rodrigues
Genealogias de São Miguel and Santa Maria Notas de Ernesto do Canto
Instituições
Vinculares  e Nota Genealogicas for Sale and  . I'm going to have my son
put in auction. on Friday i think he uses e-may, need to raise money for my
Medical expenses coming up. Might have other books i will have to think
about it first I hate to part with them, nut have to. Both book are no
longer available.

George Pacheco

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Miguel Trip

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I'm Glad you had a great time and that you found family still there.


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 Just got back from Sao Miguel. Thanks to taxi-tour driver, we found family
 still living on the same hill (lomba) in the same small village where they
 have lived for generations. Driver found someone to get me in the church
 and locked cemetery gate.  I can't speak Portuguese so he spoke for me.
 The people working in the Archives in both towns were great.  It was a
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] BIBLIOTECA PUBLICA E ARQUIVO DE PONTA DELGADA Archive Requests

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Cheri, I asked the archive what they had available at the archives, because
now the have marriages and deaths higher than 1911, and that was their
response i notice that they they also did not mention povoação, and what
Trish mentioned above, I thought I would share what they sent , I guess I
shouldn't have share because it caused confusion.


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 Um, I've been at a festa all day.  I'm not sure what you're referring to,
 George.  You're making me feel like I've had too much vinho!  LOL

 This stuff isn't up on the CCA. What are you referring to?

 Thanks!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Genealogy Chat

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Thanks John, that explains Why you never said anything,
I appreciate on you coming by.


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 The band director doesn't have Firefox on his computer. I work on his
 computer all the time.  And the Internet connection at our hall is
 notorious for freezing up.  And since this thread is not helping our
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Genealogy Chat

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Just a reminder Portuguese Genealogy Chat Starts at 9: 30 PM to 11:00PM
eastern time
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For those of you who need help, please feel free to ask questions in the
main room. If you want to participate in room conversations and help others
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Chat

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Reminder looking for help in Portuguese Genealogy I will Guise you where
I'm able to,  I will Hosting Tonight a  Chat on my Website
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vacation

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He will be there sorry my mistake :)

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 George, I hope he'll be on the dock and not at the airport because we're
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vacation

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Pat you won't be sorry, he will be at airport with a sign with your name on
it waiting for you, Rui is now a friend, you can't help it making friends
with Rui!

have a great time I sure did!


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 Thanks for the recommendation, I booked him some time ago for May 9th, the
 day our ship is in Sao Miguel. He's going to take us to Ponta Garca. I'm
 very excited as I've never been to the Azores before.





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Vacation

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m back had a great time

If you looking for a tour guide/taxi ins Driver to show you the Island and
explain the history I would hire Rui Medeiros he explains in details very
educated and likeable young men Speaks great English, check it out for
yourself.

His website
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[AZORES-Genealogy] looking for people who would like to host chat

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Hello I notice lots of you that like to help others.

I'm looking for anyone who is willing to host a Genealogy for the
Central and Mountain time zones for the  folks who are unable to  chat on
the Eastern time, and someone who is willing to host a Chat for the People
on the Pacific time Zone

 I can't host after 10:00 Pm because I to go to work the next day, I'm
looking for someone who can host for the Central and for the Pacific as
well, I don't have a schedule yet because I don't have anyone that can't
host yet.

I have one who does not really want to go back hosting chats, the other has
not given me answer, yet, so I'm still looking, you give me the day time
you are willing to host and I can make A SCHEDULE AND I WILL POST IT ON MY
SITE.

This is a free service to everyone, I will pay to host the site and someone
can benefit from the help of others, I will post a regular schedule once we
are up and running right i'm just testing the chat for now getting all the
glitches out, and see what my Genius Webmaster can create, this will be a
chat where you can share links, picture etc. r.

I'm away on vacation I hope I get someone please think about it I m back on
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Chat room

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Genealogy Chat, need help live, stop buy maybe we can guide you, Chat room
is new. The site and page are still under development we will be here from
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] congratulations Lionel Rocha Holmes

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Lionel, wishing you a Happy Birthday with Health and happiness and many
more birthdays!

George


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 Happy Birthday (belated) to Lionel Rocha Holmes!  May you continue to do
 all of the things that you enjoy, including sharing your history and
 memories!


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 While it's still April 2nd, I thought I would tell all our cousins on
 this list that today my father reached the age of 94 years.

 He is still an active list member, attending tonight's PHCS monthly
 meeting as a board member, always active in Portuguese cultural events and
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 My congratulations and Happy Birthday!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] CHAT ROOM

[George Pacheco]

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tonight from 7:00 PM to 9:30 PM will be testing the Genealogy Chat room
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