Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alphabetizing Portuguese Surnames
Thanks. That is what I thought. I use Family Tree Maker. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/224baf6d-b99d-472a-a71c-89bc39fb6581%40googlegroups.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Alphabetizing Portuguese Surnames
I am sure this has been discussed before, but no matter how I searched I could not find an answer. I am working to "clean up" my family tree. I want to be consistent with surnames. I have some de Bettencourts for example showing under de, some under Bettencourt. I am tempted to ignore the de when alphabetizing, but my big stumbling block is my own maiden name. We went by De Salles. Always under the letter D. I am thinking of not using the de for index purposed unless I know for sure the family used it in America - De Costa, De Freitas, De Salles etc. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated. Gerri Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/8f3943c7-41b6-4591-ae65-1536798f9f8e%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bettencourt, Norte Grande, Santo Antonio, S Jorge
Thank you. I’m going to start working backwards from my cousin too. Every clue helps Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 9, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > > Gerri, > Here is a PDF file on Manuel Jose and his first wife Mariana Josefa with the > info I have on the children. This doesn't mean this is all the children but > what I have for them. > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:04 PM 'Gerri Martin' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> It's possible that the cousin connection I am looking for is through the >> first wife - we believe our common relative is Manuel Jose de Bettencourt - >> if you have any names dates you could share would be much appreciated. >> >> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018, 11:16:14 AM PDT, Rosemarie Capodicci >> wrote: >> >> >> Gerry, >> I have one other child of theirs in my database, Anselmo born 1875 (Image #8 >> Norte Gande Baptisms) and three other children by his first marriage to >> Mariana Josefa de Bettencourt (3rd & 4th cousins, mrd 5 Nov 1832, NG) so we >> may find more info once the dispensations for Sao Jorge are online. These >> are not my lines but in my database. >> >> Rosemarie >> rcap...@gmail.com >> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:39 AM 'Gerri Martin' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> My second great grandparents were Manuel Jose de Bettencourt and Ana >> Severina Baptista married in 1856 in Norte Grande. I have Baptism record of >> one child Victoria Soares de Bettencourt born Feb 18, 1861 in Santo Antonio. >> my great grandmother. >> >> Currently searching through CCA looking for other siblings to make a cousin >> connection. Just curious if anyone has these names in their family tree. >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/SphcpzVIcvM/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/SphcpzVIcvM/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bettencourt, Norte Grande, Santo Antonio, S Jorge
It's possible that the cousin connection I am looking for is through the first wife - we believe our common relative is Manuel Jose de Bettencourt - if you have any names dates you could share would be much appreciated. On Tuesday, October 9, 2018, 11:16:14 AM PDT, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: Gerry,I have one other child of theirs in my database, Anselmo born 1875 (Image #8 Norte Gande Baptisms) and three other children by his first marriage to Mariana Josefa de Bettencourt (3rd & 4th cousins, mrd 5 Nov 1832, NG) so we may find more info once the dispensations for Sao Jorge are online. These are not my lines but in my database. Rosemarie rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:39 AM 'Gerri Martin' via Azores Genealogy wrote: My second great grandparents were Manuel Jose de Bettencourt and Ana Severina Baptista married in 1856 in Norte Grande. I have Baptism record of one child Victoria Soares de Bettencourt born Feb 18, 1861 in Santo Antonio. my great grandmother. Currently searching through CCA looking for other siblings to make a cousin connection. Just curious if anyone has these names in their family tree. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/SphcpzVIcvM/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Bettencourt, Norte Grande, Santo Antonio, S Jorge
My second great grandparents were Manuel Jose de Bettencourt and Ana Severina Baptista married in 1856 in Norte Grande. I have Baptism record of one child Victoria Soares de Bettencourt born Feb 18, 1861 in Santo Antonio. my great grandmother. Currently searching through CCA looking for other siblings to make a cousin connection. Just curious if anyone has these names in their family tree. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] cultura acores website
Is anybody having trouble accessing the website today? Or do I need to contact my ISP? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Local Histories on Open Library, Internet Archive,
Thank you so much. I found my gg listed in the Stanislaus history. Learned things I never knew!! Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel M Soares-Hayward ca
Hoping someone out there will recognize this man and help me discover the connection. My grandmother had a half-brother named Manuel Soares who lived in Hayward, California. I have not been able to locate a baptism to confirm the relationship. Here is the obituary for Manuel Machado Soares listing my grandmother Anna De Salles as a sister, and an Anthony Marshall as a brother. According to other records I found, his birthday was 25 Nov 1872 or 1871. Death Notice Nov. 8, 1948, Manuel M. Soares of Hayward: beloved husband of Filomina C. Soares; loving father of Mrs. Mamie Lucas of Turlock. Calif., and Filbert M. Soares, of Oakland, stepfather of Mrs. Laura Sequeira of Newman, Calif. John Gomes of Hayward and Mrs. Adeline Parker of Oakland; brother of Anthony Marsall of Oakland and Mrs. Anna De Salles of Hilmar, Calif; also survived by 12 grandchildren and 6 great grandchildren. A native of Azores Island aged 76 Anna Soares Bettencourt (my grandmother) born 11 Mar 1891 Santo Antonio Sao Jorge. Married Frank Salles in California Her parents were Joao Soares de Bettencourt, son of Domingos Antonio de Sousa and Maria de Bettencourt who was born about 1833 in Santo Antonio, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge, Azores, Portugal. He died on 31 Jan 1905 in Santo Antonio, Norte Grande, Sao Jorge. He married Vitorina Soares de Bettencourt, daughter of Manuel Jose de Bettencourt and Ana Severina Baptista on 28 May 1904 in Norte Grande, Sao Jorge (Church of Nossa Senhora das Neves). I have not been able to locate his birth record, but have verified both death and marriage dates If they were truly half siblings they must share a parent. Thanks in advance for any help Gerri Martin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree Maker FTM 16 Problem
Glad to hear. Just a thought, suggestion. I use Carbonite, but there are many cloud backup programs available. $50 a year and in my opinion worth every penny. I also have an external hard drive that runs automatic backup. I have had a computer fail and with carbonate it literally only takes a click to restore everything. Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with village/parish translation
Thanks JR!! On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:17:19 PM UTC-7, JR wrote: I had a brief look in Povoacao and found a record that matches: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822_item1/P112.html Sept 8- 1814, Joao Furtado filho de Jose Furtado e Felippa de Jesus cc Violante Maria, filha de Jose do Amaral e Maria Roza, all natives of Povoacao where newlyweds were baptised. Good hunting, JR On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:57:19 AM UTC-4, Gerri Martin wrote: Thanks to all of you On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:46:00 PM UTC-7, Gerri Martin wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1846-1849/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1846-1849_item1/P107.html Can someone help me with the Parish/birthplace of Antonio Furtado (father) in this record please. Bottom right page, Jose. Also I think the paternal grand parents are Antonio de Joao Furtado and Violante Maria? Thanks Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with village/parish translation
Thanks to all of you On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:46:00 PM UTC-7, Gerri Martin wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1846-1849/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1846-1849_item1/P107.html Can someone help me with the Parish/birthplace of Antonio Furtado (father) in this record please. Bottom right page, Jose. Also I think the paternal grand parents are Antonio de Joao Furtado and Violante Maria? Thanks Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with village/parish translation
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1846-1849/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1846-1849_item1/P107.html Can someone help me with the Parish/birthplace of Antonio Furtado (father) in this record please. Bottom right page, Jose. Also I think the paternal grand parents are Antonio de Joao Furtado and Violante Maria? Thanks Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Borges Goncalves, Altares Terceira Baptism
I have been looking for this man's baptism to no avail. His parents were Gregorio Goncalves and Maria December de Jesus. He was married to Carolina Bettencourt on July 17, 1911 in Terceira. He came to Massachusetts in 1911, and returned to Terceira a few years later. According to his granddaughter, his birthdate was July 15, 1886. According to ship records, it could be 1884. Was hoping someone had him in their tree and could point me in the right direction. I have looked at all Altares baptisms from 1882-1887. Thanks Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Site
Yes I did all that have tried four different browsers. On Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:10 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg bamecklenb...@gmail.com wrote: Try clearing your history, cookies and cache in your browser. Did you try a different browser? Maybe you need an update on your browser? Check out this article that explains how to clear your cache, history and cookies. https://kb.iu.edu/d/ahic Hope that helps Barbara - Original Message - From: Gerri Martin To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Site Anyone have any suggestions? I have no problem with other internet sites, so I know it is not my connection. I tried turning off my wireless and cannot access through 4g or 3g either. Is it possible that only a certain region cannot access? I am not a computer expert and I am stumped. I tried accessing by just clicking on a link in one of the messages too. Making me crazy! On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:52:35 AM UTC-7, Gerri Martin wrote: Is anyone else having trouble with access? I have tried three different browsers, cleared my history, restarted my computer and can't get on. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/olRz8C5QrW8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Site
It is now working My Isp guy had to contact some of the companies he uses in between me and the CCA site. He likened to a road under construction. Not necessarily the CCA site, but an intermediary. He obviously changed his provider, who was not using a good connection to anything .pt. Everything is fine now. Thanks to all. On Thursday, July 17, 2014 4:09 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: However, I think that because everyone else can access it except Gerri, it must somehow be on her end. :( If she's putting www. in front it may be a problem. If she's wiping out half of a previous used URL and typing part of it on her own, it may be a problem. There could be many reasons. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/olRz8C5QrW8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Site
Is anyone else having trouble with access? I have tried three different browsers, cleared my history, restarted my computer and can't get on. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Site
Anyone have any suggestions? I have no problem with other internet sites, so I know it is not my connection. I tried turning off my wireless and cannot access through 4g or 3g either. Is it possible that only a certain region cannot access? I am not a computer expert and I am stumped. I tried accessing by just clicking on a link in one of the messages too. Making me crazy! On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:52:35 AM UTC-7, Gerri Martin wrote: Is anyone else having trouble with access? I have tried three different browsers, cleared my history, restarted my computer and can't get on. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism translation help Carolina Bettencourt
Hoping someone can help me out. I have the parents has Joaquim Romeiro de Bettencourt and Delfina Julia? Paternal grandparents Jose Romeiro then I can't figure the next word and Maria Luis? Maternal grandmother I can't make out the first letter, ?elana Julia Also the top margin note is referreing to her marriage on 7-17-1911 to Jose Borges Goncalves, but I can't find the record in Altares. Can someone make out a reference to somewhere else. Thank you in advance, I truly appreciate this group! Gerri Martin http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1880-1889/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1880-1889_item1/P233.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record help
I have been staring for an hour - time to ask for help I guess. I think the year is 1671 because of previous entries on page, I think the day is Jan 18th. Groom Joao Coelho, Bride Beatriz de Melo Her parents Sebastiao F Borges and Beatriz de Melo His parents I cannot read, although I found a family tree on ancestry that says they are Maria Goncalves Jose Rodrigues. I cannot make it out. Hoping someone can confirm my date and help with grooms parents http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P28.html It is bottom right page, Thank you so much Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
I just noticed this post and see that my name is on the list. Have not had time to explore, but just wanted to let you all know my gedcom is up. Geraldine Martin On Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:02:10 PM UTC-7, apor...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism
Thanks all of you. Yes Doug, Manuel Furtado was my great grandfather. Gerri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Baptism
There are a few words I am not sure of. Father -Jose Furtado Bravo? official de ? Maternal grandparents is it Manuel Jose Alves Goveia? and Isabel ? de Bettencourt. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-SANTOAMARO-B-1870-1879/SJR-VL-SANTOAMARO-B-1870-1879_item1/P63.html It is the first record for Manuel. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Gerri Martin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Reconciling records
Eric, I am trying to source the info you gave me with the records from Casais das Flores - your info says Manuel Jacinto Canhoto married Isabel de Jesus Encaracao 14 Jan 1847 - I can't find this marriage record. I did find this: Manuel Jacinto de Avelar [f.º de Manuel Jacinto Pimentel Canhoto e de sua 1. ª mulher Maria Joaquina ] c. 1847.08.14 c. Isabel de Jesus da Encarnação [f.ª de José Inácio Carvalho e de Maria de Jesus]. Gomes, Francisco (2012-12-18). Casais das Flores e do Corvo (Kindle Locations 14704-14705). . Kindle Edition. Note it is Aug 14 - is this the right record or is this another person - I am going crazy with all the Jacinto's and Canhoto's Gerri On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:39:26 PM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: Gerri, That's what the record says, that Matheus Jacintho and Izabel da Trindade Jacintho are the parents of her father Matheus, however, my files have them listed as Manuel Jacintho Canhoto and Isabel de Jesus Encaracao I'd chalk it up to a transcription error by the priest. I have many of the original parish records for the other children of Manuel Jacinto Canhoto from both his marriages. See below. Official de Sapateiro= official shoemaker , maybe means registered shoemaker. It says Filha legitimate e primeira do nome = legitimate daughter and first of this name. I have a lot of information on this family. It relates to some researchers I've worked with a long time. Family members settled in San Juan Bautista,Oakland, Artesia, and Los Angeles, California Eric Edgar *1.* MANUEL JACINTO3 CANHOTO* (M**ANUEL** J**ACINTO **P**IMENTEL*2*, F** RANCISCO** P**IMENTEL*1*)* was born 1824 in Santa Cruz das Flores. He married (1) ISABEL DE JESUS ENCARACAO 14 Jan 1847 in Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, Santa Cruz das Flores, daughter of JOSE CARVALHO and MARIANA DE JESUS. She was born 1826 in Santa Cruz das Flores, and died Bef. 1875. He married (2) MARIA JACINTA 27 Nov 1875 in Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, Santa Cruz das Flores, daughter of ANTONIO NUNES and CATARINA JACINTA. She was born 1837 in Santa Cruz das Flores. More About MANUEL CANHOTO and ISABEL ENCARACAO: Marriage: 14 Jan 1847, Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, Santa Cruz das Flores More About MANUEL CANHOTO and MARIA JACINTA: Marriage: 27 Nov 1875, Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, Santa Cruz das Flores Children of MANUEL CANHOTO and ISABEL ENCARACAO are: i.JOAO4 CANHOTO, b. Santa Cruz das Flores. 2. ii.ISABEL DE JESUS DE AVELAR, b. 1849, Santa Cruz das Flores. iii.MARIA CANHOTO, b. 1855, Santa Cruz das Flores. iv.MARIANNA CANHOTO, b. 19 Aug 1857, Santa Cruz das Flores. 3. v.MATHEUS JACINTO CANHOTO, b. 15 Dec 1859, Santa Cruz das Flores; d. 08 Nov 1936, Lomba, Flores. 4. vi.LEOPOLDINA JACINTA CANHOTO, b. 1865, Santa Cruz das Flores. Children of MANUEL CANHOTO and MARIA JACINTA are: vii.MARIA JACINTA4 CANHOTO, b. 1867, Santa Cruz das Flores; m. JOSE JACINTO CANHOTO JR, 01 Dec 1888, Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, Santa Cruz das Flores; b. 1864, Santa Cruz das Flores. More About JOSE JR and MARIA CANHOTO: Marriage: 01 Dec 1888, Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, Santa Cruz das Flores 5.viii.MANUEL JACINTO CANHOTO JR, b. 05 Jan 1870, Santa Cruz das Flores; d. 20 Feb 1952, Los Angeles, California. ix.ALFREDO CANHOTO, b. 1871, Santa Cruz das Flores. x.VIRGINIA CANHOTO, b. 23 May 1873, Santa Cruz das Flores. xi.EMILIA CANHOTO, b. 1875, Santa Cruz das Flores. xii.ANTONIO CANHOTO, b. 1877, Santa Cruz das Flores. xiii.CATHERINA CANHOTO, b. 1878, Santa Cruz das Flores. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Gerri gerri...@rocketmail.comjavascript: wrote: I am very confused. The following is the baptism record for my great grandmother. If I am reading it right it says her paternal grandparents are Mateus Jacintho and Izabel da Trindade Jacintho. But on her parents marriage record it lists his parents as Manuel Jacinto Canhoto and Isabel de Jesus. Any advise or help greatly appreciated. Also, am I submitting info okay, or should I follow some different rules. Don't want to be a hassle. Gerri Martin [image: image.jpeg] http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-LOMBA-B-1875-1900/FLR-LF-LOMBA-B-1875-1900_item1/P102.html Flores, Lomba, baptismos 1875-1900. Image 102 #16 Maria I got all dates and names but want to double check the words after Mateus Canhoto. Official de ??? (Looks like shoemaker) And it says filha legitimate and first. Does that mean first child or first daughter? Sent from my iPad Thank you for any help Gerri Martin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest
[AZORES-Genealogy] Surnames, middles names
How does one decide what to use as a preferred or primary name for a person? Baptism, marriage, death etc all list the same person with different (sometimes very different) surnames, middle names etc. Then if they come to this country, it starts all over again with different spellings etc. I was just wondering how experienced genealogists do. Is there a general consensus or rule they follow? Thanks Gerri Martin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Reconciling records
Thank you so much. Eric I knew my great grandmother and her brother. They lived in Turlock and Hilmar California. Would love to share info and pics. Will contact you by email -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Casais das Flores e do Corvo in e-book format!!
Thank you so much for this information. It is a gold mine! I don't speak Portuguese, but find it very easy to decipher. Just want to make sure I am guessing right on this information: Manuel Antonio de Vasconcelos [43 anos, n. Cedros, Santa Cruz das Flores, f.o de Jose Antonio de Vasconcelos, n. Lomba, Lajes das Flores, e de Maria Joaquina, n. Cedros, e ja v. de Maria Jesus Avelar, f. Lomba, Lajes das Flores] c. 1882.10.12 c. Maria de Jesus [44 anos, n. Santa Cruz das Flores, f.a de Joao Furtado Noia e de Maria de Jesus, e ja' v.a de Antonio Jose Ventura]. Does the e ja v mean widower of Maria Jesus Avelar, and the ja' v.a mean widow of Antonio Jose Ventura? Thanks On Friday, December 28, 2012 3:33:47 AM UTC-8, João Ventura wrote: Hello all, Finally, Francisco Gomes has published his 'Casais das Flores e do Corvo' book in e-book format. I suggested this to him recently after I saw the website for the book disappear from the web. I was informed that he had managed to sell all the paper copies, and I asked him to consider keeping it 'alive' as an e-book. Even though I own the paper version, I bought one e-book, because of one important factor that the paper version lacks: the ability to search. This amazing book for anyone doing genealogy in Flores and/or Corvo requires you to know the parish in which your ancestor decided to marry. With search capabilities, that doesn't matter so much anymore. Also, it was only possible to discover details using the name of the groom as the book was indexed that way. You've got a choice of sites, with pros/cons: - Amazon (pro: Kindle, con: only Kindle) http://www.amazon.com/Casais-Flores-Portuguese-Edition-ebook/dp/B00AQAOOF6 - Lulu (pro: cheapest, con: Win/Mac Adobe Digital Editions only) http://www.lulu.com/shop/francisco-gomes/casais-das-flores-e-do-corvo-extratos-dos-assentos-de-casamento-1675-1911/ebook/product-20563362.html - XinXii (pro: DRM-free, con: +$4.5 than Lulu) http://www.xinxii.com/pt/casais-das-flores-do-corvo-p-339506.html I bought the XinXii version, as I prefer to have my e-books in a format that I know I'll be able to open 20 years from now. If you decide to do the same, please be responsible when sharing it in your family.. I'd like to see the 'Famílias da Ilha das Flores (Vila das Lajes e freguesias da Fazenda e do Lajedo)' book be re-published as an e-book one of these days, and I don't see it happening if the author only sells one e-book copy. Best regards, João Ventura (not the usual one) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Casais das Flores e do Corvo in e-book format!!
Thanks I kinda skipped the front because I couldn't read it. Will take closer look. Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: HI Gerri M, Yes, it does. The abbreviations can be found in the front of the book, too. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/x7ikqJkYZMU/unsubscribe?hl=en. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge marriage records
Thank you. Yes I checked all of them. I didn't know Marshall would be Machado but did not see any Jose Nunes or Maria Morais. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge marriage records
Are the marriage records from Sao Jorge online at CCA? I was told by an elderly family member that my husbands great grandparents, Joseph Marshall Nunes and Mary Carolina Morais were from Velas. I have searched for their marriage record to no avail. (Looked at all of the Sao Jorge records online from 1892 - 1895.) Any suggestions? Gerri Martin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
