Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas and Feliz Natal thread

[Joe Matias]

Merry Christmas!!

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 7:56 AM MaryAnn Santos  wrote:

> Feliz Natal!
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> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 2:11 PM Rosemarie Capodicci 
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>> Merry Chistmas to all and a very Happy and fact-filled 2020 New Year!
>>
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>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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>>
>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 10:22 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>>> Merry Christmas and Feliz Natal to all!
>>>
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>>> Christmas Eve there).
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname BONITO - Lomba da maia, Sao miguel

[Joe Matias]

I have helped a few people with the Bonito name.


On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 12:51 PM JR  wrote:

> No Couto Bonito's in my files. I have some form Ribeira Quente, Maia and
> Lomba da Maia. There are others in many villages.
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, November 25, 2019 at 12:37:00 PM UTC-5, NancyC wrote:
>>
>> Dear Ana and JR,
>>
>> It is my understanding also that Bonito started out a nickname. My
>> father’s baptism record lists him as Eduardo Couto Bonito, and my
>> grandfather is listed on his marriage record as João do Couto Bonito. My
>> family dropped the Bonito when they came to the U.S. I would be interested
>> to know if either of you have Couto Bonitos in your files, especially from
>> Arrifes, Relva, or São José.
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>> P.S. I believe there is also a family called Couto Feio, which suggests
>> that the nickname has nothing to do with fish.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2019, at 10:12 AM, JR  wrote:
>>
>> If I may, who was Manuel Lourenco Bonito married to? I have some Bonitos
>> in my files and would like to see if they are related. Bonito means pretty
>> and fine, but it is also a fish, a kind of tuna. And may be the source of
>> the nickname, as many people were fishermen.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 11:48:48 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ana,
>>>
>>> The Azores government digitized what was available to them. For the
>>> island of Sao Miguel, that was up to 1905. After 1905, you have to use the
>>> Civil Registry for Ribeira Grande.  If you are still a Portuguese citizen,
>>> you may be able to order the records online, provided you have a name and
>>> an exact date. I had to get a new computer and I no longer have the URL.
>>> Someone here on this list will have it.
>>>
>>> The Azores government digitized from 1905 going back to the beginning of
>>> the records. Every freguesia is different with their start dates. Use
>>> Tombo.pt to see how far back your freguesia goes and what was
>>> digitized. What you see on the Azores government site (the CCA) by going
>>> through Tombo.pt is all that exists.
>>> Good luck,
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 8:43 PM Ana Bonito  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Cheri thanks for reply, was looking for 1800 onward to 1940s.
 I have exhausted both sites and have binders printed of indexes from
 tombo and genweb.
 Any other sites to recommend?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Kopke surname/Azores?

[Joe Matias]

here is a good list with the name Kopke.
http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/results?t=Kopke


On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 3:59 AM IslandRoutes <
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> My two cousins and I have DNA match who is researching the surnames Kopke
> (Koepke) and Moniz.  I was surprised that they had their Kopke ancestor
> from Sao Miguel island.
>
> I was sure this was a mistake.  However, a little searching and I came
> across a history of Nicolau Kopke of Germany who came to Portugal in the
> 1600s. From this website, it appears there is a rich history in Portugal
> from that point on. https://kopke1638.com/history/
>
> I did some research and found references to Sao Miguel Island for her
> ancestor, but no village. So, my guess is a branch of that Kopke family in
> Portugal made their way to Sao Miguel.  As she doesn't have a village, I
> was curious how common the Kopke surname is on Sao Miguel?  I haven't come
> across it before until now.  I am wondering if it is rare if it might be
> possible to pinpoint or narrow down the village.
>
> Has anyone heard of this surname before in relation to the Azores?  We are
> probably 4th or 5th cousins, but not my curiosity has been raised.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I am new to this group, so excited to have found this

[Joe Matias]

Toni,I sent you some info directly to your email.

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:12 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi Toni L,
>
> Since you have the freguesia (Sao Mateus), you *might* be able to search
> the Azores Government Vital Records if you have a date or range:
> https://tombo.pt/f/agh13
>
> If that doesn't work, alternatives exist. Just ask.
> Good luck,
>
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
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> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:08 PM Toni Lima  wrote:
>
>> I am researching my Grand parents Joao (John) Barcelos Lima and his wife
>> Virginia Conceicao. They immigrated from the island of Terceira to the
>> United States in 1920 settled in New Bedford and moved to Santa Clara,
>> California some time in the 1930s. I believe they were from Sao Mateus but
>> i am so new to this I am not sure how to proceed. Any assistance would be
>> wonderful.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Joe Matias]

here she is on the Azores passport registration number 402
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1889-1908_item1/P161.html



On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 5:04 PM Joe Matias  wrote:

> Where was she from..I might be able to help
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 4:28 PM Gordon soares  wrote:
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>> I have found the ship my grandmother immigrated on and the date but can’t
>> seem to find the ship passenger list.
>>
>>  Marcelina Gaspar Soares sailed on SS Dona Maria on June18,1902.
>> The SS Dona seems to have a few lists but not that date so I am guessing
>> it is an arrival date that is on her immigration papers. What do you think?
>>
>> I also need to find her husband (my grandfather) Manuel Machado Soares
>> who applied for naturalization on June 20,1901 but apparently didn’t
>> complete the process since my grandmother (above) indicates on her
>> naturalization papers that her husband was not naturalized. Any suggestions
>> on how to find his ship or other immigration info for him. He came from
>> Pico.
>>
>> Gordon
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trying to Find information on Simbron (Cimbron) in the Azores

[Joe Matias]

Hi Tom,I sent your Jose's birth record here and I am not sure if you missed
it.


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On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 4:22 PM Tom Simbron  wrote:

> Thanks for your help. I couldn't find anything useful.
>
> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 7:53:13 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tom S,
>>
>> Since you have a name, date, and place, you can utilize the Azorean
>> Government website (CCA = Centro de Conhecimento dos Azores) to look up
>> your ancestor. Go through Tombo.pt to navigate. It's easier and it will
>> link you to the CCA: https://tombo.pt/m/lag  If you need English, click
>> the British flag towards the upper right corner. Pick the church in the
>> left column. Then go to the baptism section and click on the record set
>> that covers 1898.
>>
>> If you need help "reading" Portuguese, the format that the records follow
>> can be found on the Azores GenWeb here (you are in the 3rd time period):
>> www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/  You want the first half of the alphabet in
>> the Research aids, then the Fs for Finding your Roots. NOTE: The
>> WorldGenWeb is down at the moment.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1:14 PM Tom Simbron  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I traces my Lineage back to Lagoa and I am trying to find more
>>> info on an ancestor.
>>>
>>> Jose Pereira Simbron (Cimbron)
>>> Born: 15 February 1898
>>> Lagoa, Azores
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco

[Joe Matias]

If you subscribe to Ancestrydotcom there is a tree with Virginio on it and
I belive his middle name is Nicolau .Let me know and I can send you this
info privately.The - Nicolau Pacheco married into my Matias family and
are from Vila Franca do Campo,Sao Miguel.

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 7:51 AM Richard Francis Pimentel <
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> *Yes perhaps start searching the Ellis Island website (make sure you use
> name spelling variations) If you find him there you will have a date to go
> to the passports for the Acores on Tombo or CCA website.*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
> *Gonçalo
> Marques
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 6, 2019 6:05 AM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Richard
>
> I like that idea very much.
>
> I would I go to try to find when he immigrated and then to check the
> passports?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 10:58 AM Richard Francis Pimentel <
> richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *This Virgino was born in Portugal (assuming Acores). There are many
> parishes and unless you have any information as to what parish he belongs
> to it will take time as there are over 70 parishes on Sao Miguel alone. I
> would try and find when he immigrated to the us and then check the
> passports leaving the Acores which will name the parish he is from.*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
> *Gonçalo
> Marques
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:59 AM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to track the paternal line of a Y match but I'm not very
> experienced with the research in the US and I'm having trouble finding the
> trasition of the line from the US to S. Miguel.
>
>
>
> I'm looking for the patrilineal line of Virginio Pacheco that you can see
> here in the 1930s census
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> According to his, he, his wife and a son (whose name I can't read) came
> from Portugal.
>
>
>
> I also have this info
>
> *Name*
>
> Virginio Pacheco
>
> *SSN*
>
> 025-10-6528
>
> *Last Residence*
>
> Methuen, 01844, Essex, Massachusetts, USA
>
> *Born*
>
> 7 Sep 1897
>
> *Died*
>
> Jul 1975
>
> *State (Year) SSN issued*
>
> Massachusetts - Before 1951
>
>
>
> I believe this line comes from the western part of S. Miguel, so I looked
> into the baptism records of 1897 and 1898 for Ajuda da Bretanha, Pilar da
> Bretanha, Santo Anónio além Capelas, Mosteiros, Ginetes, Candelária and
> Feteiras. I found only one Virginio and he was not Pacheco.
>
>
>
> Did someone on the group bump into a Virginio Pacheco?
>
> Do you have ideas on whatelse I could do to proceed?
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Gonçalo
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco

[Joe Matias]

Was Virginio's middle name Nicolau?

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 6:04 AM Gonçalo Marques  wrote:

>
> Thanks Richard
> I like that idea very much.
> I would I go to try to find when he immigrated and then to check the
> passports?
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 10:58 AM Richard Francis Pimentel <
> richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *This Virgino was born in Portugal (assuming Acores). There are many
>> parishes and unless you have any information as to what parish he belongs
>> to it will take time as there are over 70 parishes on Sao Miguel alone. I
>> would try and find when he immigrated to the us and then check the
>> passports leaving the Acores which will name the parish he is from.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Gonçalo
>> Marques
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:59 AM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Virginio Pacheco
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to track the paternal line of a Y match but I'm not very
>> experienced with the research in the US and I'm having trouble finding the
>> trasition of the line from the US to S. Miguel.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm looking for the patrilineal line of Virginio Pacheco that you can see
>> here in the 1930s census
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> According to his, he, his wife and a son (whose name I can't read) came
>> from Portugal.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also have this info
>>
>> *Name*
>>
>> Virginio Pacheco
>>
>> *SSN*
>>
>> 025-10-6528
>>
>> *Last Residence*
>>
>> Methuen, 01844, Essex, Massachusetts, USA
>>
>> *Born*
>>
>> 7 Sep 1897
>>
>> *Died*
>>
>> Jul 1975
>>
>> *State (Year) SSN issued*
>>
>> Massachusetts - Before 1951
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe this line comes from the western part of S. Miguel, so I looked
>> into the baptism records of 1897 and 1898 for Ajuda da Bretanha, Pilar da
>> Bretanha, Santo Anónio além Capelas, Mosteiros, Ginetes, Candelária and
>> Feteiras. I found only one Virginio and he was not Pacheco.
>>
>>
>>
>> Did someone on the group bump into a Virginio Pacheco?
>>
>> Do you have ideas on whatelse I could do to proceed?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Gonçalo
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila Franca Records

[Joe Matias]

Fernando, I also have started my own index for Sao Miguel, Arcanjo,Vila
Franca and would help out.


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> Connie, thanks for offering to help. Please email me: fpimentel at
> hotmail.com as it’s easier to communicate. Thanks Fernando
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help

[Joe Matias]

I read it as Rosa Jacintha.Josefa Paxeca Modern spelling (Pacheca).
November for the month.
Baptized Quinze (15th) of same month.
no godmother mentioned


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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1770-1798/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1770-1798_item1/P302.html
>
> Can someone please help with some of this Baptism record
> I have Umbelina daughter of Manuel Jose and Jacintha
> neto Paterna Sebastian de Souza and Sebastianna  Pereira
> materna Antonio Cabral and Josefa ?
> Born on 8th day of  1795   Don't know when Baptised
> Godfather Manuel Botelho Homem   Is there a godmother?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for information on my Great Grand Parents

[Joe Matias]

This might be them.
https://digitalcollections.hawaii.gov/greenstone3/sites/localsite/collect/indextop/index/assoc/HASH5c34/140ebca4.dir/doc.pdf



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> Thank You, We are headed to Delgada in August for 2 weeks house hunting
> and plan on doing some research while there.
>
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019, 9:46 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> Don M.,
>>
>> Also contact the Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society of
>> Hawaii. They have a lot of resources. A LOT of it is contributed works, so
>> be sure to verify it with other sources.
>> https://www.portuguesegenealogicalandhistoricalsocietyofhawaii.com/
>>
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:30 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Don,
>>> Just FYI, Jesse is usually the nickname for Jacintho/Jacinto (Ja not
>>> Jo). I checked the book *Portuguese Hawaiian Memories* by Freitas and
>>> the family is not listed. The AzoresGenWeb site is a great place to start
>>> and also the Hawaiian website that Cheri gave to you. Since the birth was
>>> not found in the Vital Records you need to check out the Catholic Church in
>>> their town and try and get the baptisms of the children. If the village is
>>> listed anywhere it may be there.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:58 AM Don Miguel 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Attached file is all I can find so far.

 Jocintho Miguel 1862/1863

 Antonia Rega (Miguel)  1863/1864

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtado Duque ancestors from Matriz Vila Franca, or Ponta Garca on S.Miguel Isl-Help to read names

[Joe Matias]

I see Joao and maybe Marcos for the father


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On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 11:38 PM Terri Santos 
wrote:

> I am working on finding ancestors for my cousins family tree as my Xmas
> gift to them.  I think I've got almost as far back as i can with these
> names. I've gotten better at reading these documents, but am having a hard
> time reading this one to determine if I have the right names and place to
> continue searching...left page...
>
> Joao? da Costa son of Manuel? da Costa Duque and Maria da Costa ( of Ponta
> Garca, Vila Franca do Campo)
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P87.html
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> Looking for confirmation...
> Please and thank you,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Familias da Ilha Terceira - Index

[Joe Matias]

Thank  You

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 11:49 AM 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dear Colisters,
>
>
> I have pleasure to inform of the Index book of the collection "*Familias
> da Ilha Terceira*" (Vol. I to V).
>
> All information are in my website :  Familias da ilha Terceira
> 
>
> Familias da ilha Terceira
>
> Familias da ilha Terceira : Francisco Ferreira Dormonde (Ormonde, Armond)
> Aleixo Pacheo de Lima Manoel de Ponte ...
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> 
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>
> Best regards
>
>
> Philippe Garnier
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> Paris - France
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Inventories (Inventarios) and wills

[Joe Matias]

Thank you!


On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 10:38 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Joe Mendonca, I did not know that the Ponta Delgada archives would scan
> for you. Good to know.
>
> Joe Matias, the Archeevo site is the Archives Catalog. Any type of card
> catalog doesn't provide detailed information. Catalogs, by nature, are just
> a type of index. Maybe you missed my post on the Archives Catalog. Here it
> is for your reference:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/azores/NVx8qfbhNZM
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Joe Matias  wrote:
>
>> Ok,good to know.I have been on the archeevo site but did not get detailed
>> info,but still very useful.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:39 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Altino,
>>> That link does not have the inventories or wills and it does not contain
>>> the images of them. They were very explicit about NOT putting the
>>> inventories/wills online. They stated to me that the inventories/wills are
>>> for viewing only, as they are very private. Too bad they can't make a cut
>>> off date. Someone who died in the mid-1800s and had descendants won't
>>> really be invading their privacy, as all the descendants are also deceased.
>>> 
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:31 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe, you can research from home here :
>>>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx
>>>>
>>>> You can also research on the Tombo website. Maybe someone else can
>>>> provide that link.
>>>>
>>>> Altino
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Joe Matias  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do you have to be in Ponta Delgada in order to view all the pages of
>>>> your search,or is there a way of doing so through the internet at home?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:19 PM Cheri Mello 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While I was in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island, I made extensive
>>>>> use of the inventories or wills. I was able to find them on the Archives
>>>>> Catalog at http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/  I don't know how to
>>>>> find them for other islands. I don't think the other archives entered them
>>>>> or perhaps the inventories or wills are not housed at the other archives.
>>>>>
>>>>> The inventories and wills varied a lot and from time period to time
>>>>> period. The more recent ones were better, as they were more organized and
>>>>> followed a format.
>>>>>
>>>>> They started with a cover page, naming the deceased and who was in
>>>>> charge of their inventory. Some had maybe 7 pieces of paper (so 
>>>>> potentially
>>>>> 14 pages of information). Some had 144 pieces of paper (288 pages of
>>>>> information). The more "recent" ones (1920s forward) had a copy of the
>>>>> death certificate with the cause of death listed. Or the best that 
>>>>> medicine
>>>>> knew for that time period. They named children, grandchildren,
>>>>> great-grandchildren if they had any. If you can read the births and
>>>>> marriages, then you already know the words of "filhos" and "netos."
>>>>> "Bisnetos" are the great-grandchildren. Some listed relatives on the
>>>>> paternal side "pelo lado paterno" or the maternal side "pelo lada 
>>>>> materna,"
>>>>> Anytime I saw the word "familia" I scanned the page. Some listed what I
>>>>> believe were people they owed. Some listed what they owned, as in the
>>>>> furnishings and whatnot. My 2 great-grandmother's had a declaration from
>>>>> her husband. I don't know what it says yet. I'm waiting on my cousin to
>>>>> tell me. And there was a lot of legal stuff in there too.
>>>>>
>>>>> The earliest will/inventory that I looked at was from 1807. Some exist
>>>>> from the 17

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Inventories (Inventarios) and wills

[Joe Matias]

Ok,good to know.I have been on the archeevo site but did not get detailed
info,but still very useful.

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:39 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Altino,
> That link does not have the inventories or wills and it does not contain
> the images of them. They were very explicit about NOT putting the
> inventories/wills online. They stated to me that the inventories/wills are
> for viewing only, as they are very private. Too bad they can't make a cut
> off date. Someone who died in the mid-1800s and had descendants won't
> really be invading their privacy, as all the descendants are also deceased.
> 
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:31 PM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Joe, you can research from home here :
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx
>>
>> You can also research on the Tombo website. Maybe someone else can
>> provide that link.
>>
>> Altino
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Joe Matias  wrote:
>>
>> Do you have to be in Ponta Delgada in order to view all the pages of your
>> search,or is there a way of doing so through the internet at home?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:19 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> While I was in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island, I made extensive use
>>> of the inventories or wills. I was able to find them on the Archives
>>> Catalog at http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/  I don't know how to find
>>> them for other islands. I don't think the other archives entered them or
>>> perhaps the inventories or wills are not housed at the other archives.
>>>
>>> The inventories and wills varied a lot and from time period to time
>>> period. The more recent ones were better, as they were more organized and
>>> followed a format.
>>>
>>> They started with a cover page, naming the deceased and who was in
>>> charge of their inventory. Some had maybe 7 pieces of paper (so potentially
>>> 14 pages of information). Some had 144 pieces of paper (288 pages of
>>> information). The more "recent" ones (1920s forward) had a copy of the
>>> death certificate with the cause of death listed. Or the best that medicine
>>> knew for that time period. They named children, grandchildren,
>>> great-grandchildren if they had any. If you can read the births and
>>> marriages, then you already know the words of "filhos" and "netos."
>>> "Bisnetos" are the great-grandchildren. Some listed relatives on the
>>> paternal side "pelo lado paterno" or the maternal side "pelo lada materna,"
>>> Anytime I saw the word "familia" I scanned the page. Some listed what I
>>> believe were people they owed. Some listed what they owned, as in the
>>> furnishings and whatnot. My 2 great-grandmother's had a declaration from
>>> her husband. I don't know what it says yet. I'm waiting on my cousin to
>>> tell me. And there was a lot of legal stuff in there too.
>>>
>>> The earliest will/inventory that I looked at was from 1807. Some exist
>>> from the 1700s.
>>>
>>> Not every ancestor will have an inventory or will. You didn't need to
>>> own property to have an will or inventory. As I said, it appeared that one
>>> guy owed a lot of people a lot of money.
>>>
>>> They allowed me to take pictures with my camera (found out I need a
>>> different pair of reading glasses to take pictures). They said that the
>>> inventories are NEVER to be posted anywhere on the Internet. That means
>>> Ancestry.com, Geni.com, My Heritage, FamilySearch.org, your own
>>> personal page, etc. They consider the inventories private Yes, I understand
>>> that if the person died in 1807, no one alive today was mentioned in that
>>> will. But they have their rules. I said it was going to be left on my
>>> computer so I could consult it. I would extract only genealogy information
>>> from the documents, but would never post an image of any them. So for those
>>> utilizing the inventories/wills, do NOT post them ANYWHERE on the Internet
>>> or you mess it up for future genealogists.
>>>
>>> Hopefully the other archives will get their inventories/wills up on the
>>> Archives Catalog.
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Re

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Inventories (Inventarios) and wills

[Joe Matias]

Do you have to be in Ponta Delgada in order to view all the pages of your
search,or is there a way of doing so through the internet at home?


On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:19 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> While I was in Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island, I made extensive use of
> the inventories or wills. I was able to find them on the Archives Catalog
> at http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/  I don't know how to find them for
> other islands. I don't think the other archives entered them or perhaps the
> inventories or wills are not housed at the other archives.
>
> The inventories and wills varied a lot and from time period to time
> period. The more recent ones were better, as they were more organized and
> followed a format.
>
> They started with a cover page, naming the deceased and who was in charge
> of their inventory. Some had maybe 7 pieces of paper (so potentially 14
> pages of information). Some had 144 pieces of paper (288 pages of
> information). The more "recent" ones (1920s forward) had a copy of the
> death certificate with the cause of death listed. Or the best that medicine
> knew for that time period. They named children, grandchildren,
> great-grandchildren if they had any. If you can read the births and
> marriages, then you already know the words of "filhos" and "netos."
> "Bisnetos" are the great-grandchildren. Some listed relatives on the
> paternal side "pelo lado paterno" or the maternal side "pelo lada materna,"
> Anytime I saw the word "familia" I scanned the page. Some listed what I
> believe were people they owed. Some listed what they owned, as in the
> furnishings and whatnot. My 2 great-grandmother's had a declaration from
> her husband. I don't know what it says yet. I'm waiting on my cousin to
> tell me. And there was a lot of legal stuff in there too.
>
> The earliest will/inventory that I looked at was from 1807. Some exist
> from the 1700s.
>
> Not every ancestor will have an inventory or will. You didn't need to own
> property to have an will or inventory. As I said, it appeared that one guy
> owed a lot of people a lot of money.
>
> They allowed me to take pictures with my camera (found out I need a
> different pair of reading glasses to take pictures). They said that the
> inventories are NEVER to be posted anywhere on the Internet. That means
> Ancestry.com, Geni.com, My Heritage, FamilySearch.org, your own personal
> page, etc. They consider the inventories private Yes, I understand that if
> the person died in 1807, no one alive today was mentioned in that will. But
> they have their rules. I said it was going to be left on my computer so I
> could consult it. I would extract only genealogy information from the
> documents, but would never post an image of any them. So for those
> utilizing the inventories/wills, do NOT post them ANYWHERE on the Internet
> or you mess it up for future genealogists.
>
> Hopefully the other archives will get their inventories/wills up on the
> Archives Catalog.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph De Souza b 1828

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I would say for his name...Jose de Sousa Brum


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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yes, the only thing is to figure out what the writer meant by Faial. The
> island? Faial da Terra? The mystery continues!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Margaret Vicente <
> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cheri, I agree Faial in all probability.  It also says Western Islands
>> which points that way as well.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> It looks like a misspelling of Faial. Could be the island of Faial, or
>> Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel island.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:01 AM, Brett Moffitt 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am researching my g-g-grandfather who I believe was born in the
>>> Azores. The image below contains the place of birth from a variety of
>>> documents. I believe he was illiterate so the place names may have been
>>> written as heard by an English-speaker.
>>>
>>>
>>> He went by the name of Joseph Le Swezer and then later by Joseph Soizer
>>> Brown. I suspect his name was actually Joseph De Souza as someone of that
>>> name arrived in Australia at the place and time that fits with my ancestor.
>>> This person boarded his ship (the 'Water Lily') in St Michael, Azores in
>>> 1853.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone please assist with confirming the place name below?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of street in Vila Franca do Campo where great grandparents lived

[Joe Matias]

Sometimes you are lucky to find the house number on some of your ancestor's
obit records as I have .


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On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Interesting...I checked on Google Maps. Those streets (or portions) still
> exist. And Google Maps has been there and driven down the streets! At least
> on Sao Miguel island. Ooooh, I just went to the Azores this morning! LOL
>
> Marie S, many of the houses back in the day did not have numbers. I've
> seen it recorded that they lived on such-and-such street in a house with no
> number.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 7:33 AM, Marie Shantz  wrote:
>
>> my Grandparents Residences were Rua das Laranjeiras- 1864 and Rua de
>> Santo Amaro,1865-1882- Vila Franca, Francisco de Mello & Tereza de Jesus.
>> Don't know the houses' numbers.
>>
>> Marie
>>
>> On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-5, Lillian Palko wrote:
>>>
>>> This is the link to my great grandparents address in Vila Franca do
>>> Campo, Sao Miguel, Azores:  Right hand side, birth of Bernardina #39:
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
>>> SAOMIGUEL-B-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1895-1899_item1/P21.html
>>>
>>> 5TH LINE FROM BOTTOM
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas thread (use this one only)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] LIST OF PORTUGUESE NAMES

[Joe Matias]

thank you!

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

> Try this link:[sorry I don't know how to make them little]
> https://s3.amazonaws.com/ps-services-us-east-1-
> 914248642252/s3/research-wiki-elasticsearch-prod-s3bucket/
> images/e/e7/Basic-Portuguese-Paleography-3.pdf
>
> It will take you into the paleography abbreviations and name lists
>
> Marilyn T
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Surnames (last names) can be found in the Guill book (out of print). I
>> believe some given names are in the back of paleography on the Azores
>> GenWeb. Someone else will have to provide the links as my computer has gone
>> back to the manufacturer for a warranty repair and the information is on my
>> computer. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Military Records

[Joe Matias]

Thank You!


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> You are welcome, Marilyn! It was so good to see you at the meet-n-greet on
> Monday night though! Sorry that you couldn't stay for the whole conference.
> Maybe the next one!
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> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
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>> Thank you for letting those of us who did not make it to the conference
>> know about this site.
>>
>> Marilyn T
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One thing new that we did learn in Salt Lake City, at the Conference,
>>> was that the Portuguese Military Records are being digitized and put online
>>> at this site:
>>> https://ahm-germil.exercito.pt/welcome
>>> At present the records only cover 1900--2000 but they are putting more
>>> on everyday so keep checking! Happy Hunting.
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacome family line

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I also descend from Manuel Jacome and Maria de melo on my mother's side..if
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On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Michelle,
> It's Manuel Jácome, b. mid 1600s in São Pedro on Santa Maria island. He
> married Guimar Velha probably 1660s. They died on São Miguel island in Vila
> Franca.
>
> Their son, Manuel Jácome married Maria de Mello and that's how my line
> wound up with the Mello name.
>
> My dad carries the Y- DNA of these 2 Manuel Jácomes.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacome family line

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Where are your Jacome's from Michelle?


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On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi Michele,
> Yes, technically my Mello line should have been Jacome. I am the 10th
> generation to carry Mello. The 11th generation was a Manuel Jacome born in
> the 1660s on Santa Maria island. I'm going off the top of my head, as my
> computer is being used to run the slides for the conference in Salt Lake,
> so I can't look it up at the moment. Will respond more later. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help - Rabo de Peixe - Jose Pacheco - 1822?

[Joe Matias]

Here is Jose's sister Claudina's birth record which is easier to read.
Jose's baptism was 03 of May 1823.Maternal -Jose Ignacio de Faria and
Josefa Maria.
Jose's mother-Francisca Vicencia.
Here is the link for Claudina top left
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1824-1831/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1824-1831_item1/P24.html


On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> Thanks, JR!
>
>
> On April 24, 2017 at 9:01:36 AM, JR (jmro...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Joane, you are right. It is Faria. My mistake.
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 8:56:05 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote:
>>
>> Da Ponte, eh? Hmmm…wondering how de Faria creeped into this line. Thanks
>> again, Rick! I can rest in the knowledge that I got most of this tough one
>> correct. ;)
>>
>>
>> On April 24, 2017 at 8:27:20 AM, Joanne Mercier (musicma...@gmail.com)
>> wrote:
>>
>> That’s him! The swirling capitals were making it even harder to discover
>> what I needed. My next questions are — am I correct in reading that:
>> 1) the maternal grandparents are Jose Ignacio de FARIA and Josefa Rosa?
>> 2) birthdate is 20 April 1823?
>> 3) baptism is ? of May?
>>
>> This one is a tough one to be sure - thanks, Rick!
>> Joanne
>>
>> On April 24, 2017 at 7:53:45 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
>> rickre...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>
>> * This is Jose Son of Manuel Pacheco de Medeiros and Francisca ?
>> Vicencia. Those swirling capital letters are tough.*
>>
>>
>>
>> * Rick*
>>
>>
>>
>> * From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of* Joanne Mercier
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 24, 2017 6:55 AM
>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help - Rabo de Peixe -
>> Jose Pacheco - 1822?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Cheri, but I’m not sure if the font you’re referring to is
>> my email or the baptismal entry. Let me retry this email again in a larger
>> type:
>>
>>
>>
>> Top Right side:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
>> RABODEPEIXE-B-1819-1824/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1819-1824_item1/P148.html
>>
>>
>>
>> This one has given me quite the headache, not only in trying to locate
>> him (this is my 3rd time looking through these books) but in trying to read
>> the writing among the bleeding ink. I believe this is my maternal 2x
>> great-grandfather but the cursive “F” is looking a lot like “P” so I am
>> unsure. Any help in breaking this brick wall with me will be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Joanne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On April 24, 2017 at 12:18:29 AM, Cheri Mello (gfsc...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>
>> Top Right side:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
>> RABODEPEIXE-B-1819-1824/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1819-1824_item1/P148.html
>>
>>
>>
>> This one has given me quite the headache, not only in trying to locate
>> him (this is my 3rd time looking through these books) but in trying to read
>> the writing among the bleeding ink. I believe this is my maternal 2x
>> great-grandfather but the cursive “F” is looking a lot like “P” so I am
>> unsure. Any help in breaking this brick wall with me will be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Joanne
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] "New" Madalena books in CCA

[Joe Matias]

Great thank you!

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
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> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:24 PM, João Ventura  wrote:
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>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> For those that don't get the tombo.pt newsletter, I just wanted to let
>> you know that the CCA has released the following books from Madalena, Pico:
>> * Casamentos 1655 – 1664
>> * Óbitos 1661 – 1664 (this is incorrectly named as a baptismos document -
>> my site has it correctly in the list of death records).
>>
>> And for those that don't get the newsletter, and would like to get it:
>> https://tombo.pt/en/newsletter/subscriptions
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>> Also, for those that are also researching Madeira, there's a new website
>> for ARM: http://abm.madeira.gov.pt/arquivo/ (it's not indexed yet in
>> tombo.pt, as there's a bug in the search function in this new site).
>>
>> João Ventura
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA site is back up

[Joe Matias]

Thanx!


On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 10:46 AM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy <
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> So Exciting!!!
>
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2017 at 8:28:58 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
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>> Just in notice site is up.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My elusive Maria Cristo

[Joe Matias]

http://interactive.ancestry.com/8745/MAT843_136-0876/1452889?backurl=%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgst%3d-6==ReturnSearchResults#?imageId=MAT843_136-0876
Is this your Maria Morais line 19

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:14 PM, JR  wrote:

> Which St Barbara? The one near Ribeira Grande or the one near Bretanha?
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 4:24:24 PM UTC-5, celeste perry wrote:
>>
>> No, it was not her, Elaine.  I have searched all the records from the
>> marriage to the death of her father (spent a week in Ponta Delgada looking
>> at all the records of a "Maria" born to Jacintha Libiana and Joao Moraes.
>> She did not show up.  Joao Ventura has also looked for her birth without
>> any success.
>>
>> So.I am hoping that someone will be able to "look" at her marriage
>> record to see if the priest wrote in the margin of the record that she was
>> baptized in a place that is not, Lomba da Santa Barbara or any village that
>> shares a border with Lomba, in the island of Sao Miguel.  By the way, the
>> village is no longer called Lomba, it is just, "Santa Barbara."
>>
>> Thanks for your interest in finding something that confirms she was a
>> "biological" member of this family.
>> Celeste
>>
>> Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com
>>
>> 
>> On Mon, 1/9/17, E" Sharp  wrote:
>>
>>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My elusive Maria Cristo
>>  To: "azores" 
>>  Date: Monday, January 9, 2017, 1:05 PM
>>
>>  Hi Celeste,
>>  Hope you had a happy
>>  holiday.  I thought we (people on the list) found her the
>>  last time you asked.  Was that not her?
>>  "E"
>>  On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at
>>  12:14 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
>>
>>  wrote:
>>  Once
>>  again, I am posting and asking for any information that will
>>  help in my search to find my husband's paternal
>>  grandmother, Maria CristoIn the US she used many
>>  names:  Maria or Mary, Pereira da Silva; Pereira; or
>>  Silva.
>>
>>
>>
>>  1. Her name:
>>
>>  In 2006, I received an email from a great-grandson of MC’s
>>  brother Jose.  He wrote “on Ancestry.com he found Maria
>>  Cristo immigrated July 31, 1909.”I found an arrival of
>>  “Maria Moraes arriving July 31, 1909, age 25, est. birth
>>  yr. 1884, F, Portuguese, port of departure: St. michaels,
>>  Az, Portugal; ship name, Cretic; arriving at Boston, MA;
>>  last residence, Azores, birthplace, St. Barbara,
>>  Azores.”  I received this information from someone and I
>>  never saw the name of the person she was going to.  I think
>>  she would have come to her brother, Seraphine who immigrated
>>  10/24/1904 and I have found his name as:  Serafim
>>  Morais/Morris/Moraes in different census.
>>
>>  On her marriage record:  11/27/09 she is: Maria de Christ
>>  Moraes
>>
>>  2. DOB, where??? :  May 22, 1884/1885 Lomba da
>>  Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, (oral history told to me
>>  by her daughter)
>>
>>  She married in 1909 and said she was 22 years old (I have
>>  the marriage record from St. Mary’s church in Bristol,
>>  RI.)  Rencently, I noticed that the information I have is
>>  on a form filled out by the priest at St. Mary's church
>>  in Bristol, RI.)  I would like to have someone look at the
>>  actual book to see if the priest MAY have written her place
>>  of birth.
>>
>>  3.Father:  Joao Moraes, he died 4/13/1899, I
>>  found his death record in 2006.
>>
>>  4.Mother: Jacinta Libianna
>>
>>  5.When did she come to US:  I think she came to
>>  the US to her brother, Seraphine Moraes.  This is what her
>>  daughter told me.  It had to have been before Nov. 1909
>>  when she married.
>>
>>  6.In the 1910 census Fellippe E. & Mary C.
>>  Silva, are living with Seraphim & Rosa Morais at 15 East
>>  Brooks. St.   in Bristol, RI she lived on Estbrook St.
>>  with her husband, Fillippe Silva.  She was listed as Maria
>>  C. Silva who immigrated in 1909.
>>
>>  1927-1928, 1929-1930/ 1935-1936; 1937 census, Phillip &
>>  Mry Perry, carpenter, live at 66 Blossom St.
>>
>>  1938; 1939, 43, 66 Blossom St. per City directory
>>
>>  1947 moved to Oakland, CA
>>
>>  7.In 2005, at the Oakland FHCC, I found a Maria
>>  Moraes arriving 7/31/1909, age 25, est. yob 1884, F,
>>  Portuguese; departed: S.Miguel; ship’s name is Crotic;
>>  arrived in Boston, MA
>>
>>  8.She was 24 years old when her daughter Mary
>>  was born in 1911.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Any help in locating a document that connects her to the
>>  biological family she and her "sister, Anna"
>>  "thought"  was her family.  When Anna died in
>>  her will she left , "to my sister, Mary Perry in
>>  Oakland, California, $100.00."
>>
>>
>>
>>  I viewed the records for Lomba da Santa Barbara in Sao
>>  Miguel page by page and found all her siblings.  Although
>>  there was no "Maria" born to this family that fit
>>  the bill 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My elusive Maria Cristo

[Joe Matias]

Here is Serafim Morais in a passport from Azores Oct.15 1904 number 2145
and says he is from Agua de Pau,Lagoa
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1903-1905/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1903-1905_item1/P73.html
Is that your Serafim?

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:24 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> No, it was not her, Elaine.  I have searched all the records from the
> marriage to the death of her father (spent a week in Ponta Delgada looking
> at all the records of a "Maria" born to Jacintha Libiana and Joao Moraes.
> She did not show up.  Joao Ventura has also looked for her birth without
> any success.
>
> So.I am hoping that someone will be able to "look" at her marriage
> record to see if the priest wrote in the margin of the record that she was
> baptized in a place that is not, Lomba da Santa Barbara or any village that
> shares a border with Lomba, in the island of Sao Miguel.  By the way, the
> village is no longer called Lomba, it is just, "Santa Barbara."
>
> Thanks for your interest in finding something that confirms she was a
> "biological" member of this family.
> Celeste
>
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
> 
> On Mon, 1/9/17, E" Sharp  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My elusive Maria Cristo
>  To: "azores" 
>  Date: Monday, January 9, 2017, 1:05 PM
>
>  Hi Celeste,
>  Hope you had a happy
>  holiday.  I thought we (people on the list) found her the
>  last time you asked.  Was that not her?
>  "E"
>  On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at
>  12:14 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
>  Once
>  again, I am posting and asking for any information that will
>  help in my search to find my husband's paternal
>  grandmother, Maria CristoIn the US she used many
>  names:  Maria or Mary, Pereira da Silva; Pereira; or
>  Silva.
>
>
>
>  1. Her name:
>
>  In 2006, I received an email from a great-grandson of MC’s
>  brother Jose.  He wrote “on Ancestry.com he found Maria
>  Cristo immigrated July 31, 1909.”I found an arrival of
>  “Maria Moraes arriving July 31, 1909, age 25, est. birth
>  yr. 1884, F, Portuguese, port of departure: St. michaels,
>  Az, Portugal; ship name, Cretic; arriving at Boston, MA;
>  last residence, Azores, birthplace, St. Barbara,
>  Azores.”  I received this information from someone and I
>  never saw the name of the person she was going to.  I think
>  she would have come to her brother, Seraphine who immigrated
>  10/24/1904 and I have found his name as:  Serafim
>  Morais/Morris/Moraes in different census.
>
>  On her marriage record:  11/27/09 she is: Maria de Christ
>  Moraes
>
>  2. DOB, where??? :  May 22, 1884/1885 Lomba da
>  Santa Barbara, Sao Miguel, Azores, (oral history told to me
>  by her daughter)
>
>  She married in 1909 and said she was 22 years old (I have
>  the marriage record from St. Mary’s church in Bristol,
>  RI.)  Rencently, I noticed that the information I have is
>  on a form filled out by the priest at St. Mary's church
>  in Bristol, RI.)  I would like to have someone look at the
>  actual book to see if the priest MAY have written her place
>  of birth.
>
>  3.Father:  Joao Moraes, he died 4/13/1899, I
>  found his death record in 2006.
>
>  4.Mother: Jacinta Libianna
>
>  5.When did she come to US:  I think she came to
>  the US to her brother, Seraphine Moraes.  This is what her
>  daughter told me.  It had to have been before Nov. 1909
>  when she married.
>
>  6.In the 1910 census Fellippe E. & Mary C.
>  Silva, are living with Seraphim & Rosa Morais at 15 East
>  Brooks. St.   in Bristol, RI she lived on Estbrook St.
>  with her husband, Fillippe Silva.  She was listed as Maria
>  C. Silva who immigrated in 1909.
>
>  1927-1928, 1929-1930/ 1935-1936; 1937 census, Phillip &
>  Mry Perry, carpenter, live at 66 Blossom St.
>
>  1938; 1939, 43, 66 Blossom St. per City directory
>
>  1947 moved to Oakland, CA
>
>  7.In 2005, at the Oakland FHCC, I found a Maria
>  Moraes arriving 7/31/1909, age 25, est. yob 1884, F,
>  Portuguese; departed: S.Miguel; ship’s name is Crotic;
>  arrived in Boston, MA
>
>  8.She was 24 years old when her daughter Mary
>  was born in 1911.
>
>
>
>  Any help in locating a document that connects her to the
>  biological family she and her "sister, Anna"
>  "thought"  was her family.  When Anna died in
>  her will she left , "to my sister, Mary Perry in
>  Oakland, California, $100.00."
>
>
>
>  I viewed the records for Lomba da Santa Barbara in Sao
>  Miguel page by page and found all her siblings.  Although
>  there was no "Maria" born to this family that fit
>  the bill for my Maria Cristo.  There were 2 Maria's;
>  the first would have been too old when my Maria Cristo's
>  youngest son was born to have been her.  The second Maria,
>  died young.  

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal e Prospero Ano Novo (Merry Christmas/Happy New Year) Thread

[Joe Matias]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !!

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year with lots and lots of new genealogy
> finds!!
>
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Feliz Natal (Merry Christmas) and Prospero Ano Novo (Happy New Year)!
>>
>> If you would like to send greetings to the list, use this thread ONLY.
>> Just hit reply to this thread and respond. Do NOT start a new thread.
>>
>> Please post your greetings by 11:59 pm YOUR TIME on Dec. 25th. If it's
>> 12:01 your time on Dec. 26th, you are too late.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fajã Redonda

[Joe Matias]

Try this, http://mapas.sapo.pt/?ll=39.577629%2C-7.845068=7=m=Map

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 1:32 AM, LouieLouieOhOh 
wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can find a Portuguese map of the Azores (on line)
> ...
> (like Google maps but in Portuguese) that lists all of the Fajã
> 
> s?
>
> I found this in the Portuguese version of Wikipedia:
>
> In *Fajã Redonda*, quite abundant in waters there is a river, where once
> there were two or three water mills, in the place called "The Crows". In
> addition to this river, there is another one that divides the Fajã Redonda
> from the Fajã do Sanguinhal. The abundance of water sprang from four
> relatively strong sources that ran and still run all year. The most
> frequent Birds in this fajã are: The cagarro, the seagull, the dove, the
> garajau, and the blackbird. From time to time goose still appears. The
> products grown in this fajã have always been sufficient to provide for the
> basic needs of its inhabitants. When there was something missing, they
> would come to Ribeira Seca or Santo Antão, but they did it as little as
> possible because the distance was great. So people tried to produce
> everything a little by taking away their self-sufficiency. In the path that
> linked the Redonda fajã to the fajã da Caldeira de Santo Cristo, some men
> were buried in the 1980 earthquake, as a result of the fallen rocks. From
> that point on, the path, which was carved into the rock, was completely
> destroyed and impassable.
>
> Louie
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading two words...

[Joe Matias]

I see Simplicio Joaquim

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 10:28 PM, JR  wrote:

> bap seis horas de dia dois de dito mez e annoPat- Simplicio Joaquim de
> Moura and Maria Jacintha de Chaves de dita freguezia; Mat Antonio Joze de
> Carvalho and Roza Jacintha naturais de referida freguezia. Pad- Antonio J.e
> (Joze) de Chaves e Antonia de Chaves, irmaos de pai de baptizado, moradores
> no mesmo termo...
>
> JR
>
>
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:36:50 PM UTC-5, George Sousa wrote:
>>
>> In the following record (top of left page)...
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1860-1864_item1/P18.html
>>
>> 1. Can someone make out the occupation of the child's father?
>> 2. and... What is the full name of the Paternal Grandfather?
>>
>> Here is what I have so far:
>>
>> Name: Jose
>> Date of baptism: November 13, 1860
>> Date of birth: November 2, 1860
>> Father's Name: Jose Maria de Chaves
>> Father's Occupation: ?
>> Mother's Name: Antonia de Jesus Chaves
>> Paternal Grandfather: ? Joaquim de Moura
>> Paternal Grandmother: Maria Jacintha de Chaves
>> Maternal Grandfather: Antonio Jose de Carvalho
>> Maternal Grandmother: Roza Jacintha
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> George
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trying to figure out name, top right side of page....Rabo de Peixe, Baptismos, 1771-1779

[Joe Matias]

You have her name right.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 3:14 AM, Aaron Pereira 
wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I'm trying to figure out the name of a female child...top right side of
> page.  The name looks like Scolastica.  I appreciate any help.  Thank you.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1771-1779/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1771-1779_item1/P170.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES

[Joe Matias]

Carmen, Maria was born on the 17 Sept. and baptized on the 27 1773

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 1:26 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> hi linda
>
> thank you ever so much
>
> i found maria's baptism
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1767-1775/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1767-1775_item1/P152.html
>
> born - september 2 1775
>
> baptized -  september 27 1775
>
> do i have these dates correct?
>
> i could not find a baptism for her husband Francisco Luiz nor any of his
> siblings
>
> does their marriage give a clue as to where he was from
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P221.html
>
> march 24 1795
>
> i see sao pedro but he wasn't on the baptism indexes
>
> thank you
>
> Carmen
>
>
>
>
> 
> On Wed, 11/9/16, linda  wrote:
>
>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES
>  To: "Azores Genealogy" 
>  Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 6:39 PM
>
>
>  Hi Carmen,
>
>  It's a confusing record because the priest
>  made an error then corrected himself.  Where he wrote
>  "digo"-- "I [meant to] say"-- is where
>  he started over:
>
>  "Francisco Luis filho de Antonio Luis e
>  de Josefa do Espirito Santo com Maria da Ro
>  sario filha digo
>  Franco Luis filho de Joao Luis e
>  de
>  Margarida de Oliveira com Maria da Ro
>  sario
>  filha de Antonio Luis e de Josefa do Espiri
>  to Santo"
>
>  Groom: Francisco Luis, son of Joao Luis and
>  Margarida de Oliveira
>  Bride: Maria da
>  Rosario, daughter of Antonio Luis and Josefa do Espirito
>  Santo
>
>  hope that's
>  helpful,
>
>  Linda
>
>
>  On Wednesday,
>  November 9, 2016 at 12:31:07 PM UTC-8, carmen furtado
>  wrote:http://culturacores.azores.
>  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
>  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P221.html
>
>
>
>  francisco luiz marriage
>
>
>
>  his parents are António Luiz
>  andJosefa do Espírito Santo
>
>
>
>  what are Maria do Rozário's parents
>  names?
>
>
>
>  João Luiz and Margarida de Oliviera?
>
>
>
>  then everything gets confusing with the
>  names
>
>
>
>  thank you
>
>
>
>  carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azorean Gravestones

[Joe Matias]

Nice!

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 5:59 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> SUPER!!!
>
> "E"
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 1:07 PM, 'jeremecio' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> We have put the council of Calheta on Sao Jorge on Findagrave
>>
>> *** The Council of Velas on Sao Jorge is expected to be completed by May
>> of 2017, the entire Island of Flores will be done by December of this year,
>> and a few towns on Graciosa, Pico, and Terceira will also be done by
>> December, but at this time there are no plans for the completion of those
>> islands.
>>
>> https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?

[Joe Matias]

Here is the link for Jacinto Soares Oliveira.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1800-1816_item1/P24.html

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 1:26 PM, JR  wrote:

> Yes the record says Jacinto was born in Faial da Terra abt 1800, based on
> his age at marriage.
>
> JR
>
>
> On Saturday, November 5, 2016 at 3:52:44 PM UTC-4, carmen furtado wrote:
>>
>> jacinto soares marriage on the left hand side
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
>> SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
>> 
>>
>> do i search in Faial da Terra to find his baptism?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> carmen
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?

[Joe Matias]

Carmen,Jacinto Soares Oliveira is one of my ancestors.


I have him born 05 Sept.1802 nosa senhora da graca,Porto Formoso.email me
direct for more info.Joe Matias



On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 10:18 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
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> forgot to mention that his daughter's birth and marriage list him as being
> from villa franca
>
> i figure he was born about 1799
>
> i searched over 400 pages yesterday in villa franca matriz and couldn't
> find his baptism
>
> wondering if his marriage gave any info as to where he was from
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
>
> thanks
>
> carmen
>
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> On Sat, 11/5/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
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>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DO I SEARCH Faial da Terra FOR THIS ONE?
>  To: Azores@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Saturday, November 5, 2016, 2:52 PM
>
>  jacinto soares marriage on the left
>  hand side
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
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>  do i search in Faial da Terra to find his baptism?
>
>  thanks
>
>  carmen
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New book in CCA: SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-O-1822-1844

[Joe Matias]

Great,thanx!

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I wish they would get ALL the freguesias up to 1911. Some freguesias are
> short of that date. Guess the books were not all at the archive when they
> began the scanning process. :(
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> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
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>> Wow, Joao, great news for those that have people in that village! Hope
>> that other books 'turn-up' too. Maybe someone died and they 'found' the
>> book under the bed!LOL
>>
>> Rosemarie
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>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 1:59 PM, João Ventura  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> This morning, the tombo.pt site detected a "new" death records book,
>>> it's from the Água de Pau parish in São Miguel, covering the years 1822 to
>>> 1844.
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-
>>> AGUADEPAU-O-1822-1844/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-O-1822-1844_item1/index.html
>>>
>>> It's been a long time since they last had something new, so most of you
>>> probably stopped looking at tombo.pt for any news out of CCA, which is
>>> why I decided to come here and warn you.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> João Ventura
>>> https://tombo.pt/en
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores

[Joe Matias]

I have seen Andrades in Santo Espirito area of Santa Maria

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Paul, No records exist for moving between islands. Many people from Santa
> Maria went to the closest island which was Sao Miguel.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation!

[Joe Matias]

424 says Jose is 26 years old native of Sao Pedro of this city.
son of Antonio Machado Silva and Maria Luz.
Destination Boston.
Maria Augusta Silva 24 years old married to Jose Machado Silva
she is native of Sao Matheus
Destination Boston

On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Steve Wright  wrote:

> I have found my maternal grandparents passports and can make out their
> names, Frequisa they are from but need more help.
>
> Their names are Jose Machado Silva and Maria Augusta Silva
>
> # 424 and 425 in ledger.
>
> Thank you so very much.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
> PASSAPORTES-TER-1921-1923/PASSAPORTES-TER-1921-1923_item1/P49.html
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> Colleen Wright
> Researching: Rosa, Cunha, Bettencourt from Graciosa; Machado, Silva from
> Pico; Machado, Silva and Goncalves from Terceira
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Verify bride's age and birth place.

[Joe Matias]

I believe you have the right info.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Sandra Perez 
wrote:

>
> Vriginio Cabral fo Francisco Joaquim Cabral e Francisca de Jesus m. Maria
> Harminda? fa Alfredo
> de Matos Sousa e Francisca de Jesus 11 Nov 1896--two pages. I see the
> bride's age as 17.  It also looks like she was born in NS do Rosario.
>
> Right bottom
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1890-1899/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1890-1899_item1/P170.html
>
> Top left
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1890-1899/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1890-1899_item1/P171.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help after brides name indicating she is a widow

[Joe Matias]

He is a fourth cousin and yes I have permission!


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> Joe Matias,
> Who is Duarte Manuel Vasconcellos d'Amaral? Did you get his permission
> before sharing his work?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help after brides name indicating she is a widow

[Joe Matias]

might be of help.

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Sorry, not JR, I meant to say Manoel (César Furtado). Manoel has
> Kryptonite eyes.
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> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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>> JR, Wow, do you have Kryptonite in your eyes? LOL I thought we ran out of
>> records.
>>
>> So now these people you list are the End of the Line ancestors, correct?
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Procurando / Looking for Maria Augusta de Cabral - 1882

[Joe Matias]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-B-1880-1889/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-B-1880-1889_item1/P197.html

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx

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> Go to tombo.pt and type in Agua de Pau. Navigate to the baptisms of 1882.
> Find your Maria. You will be able to go back from there.
>
> Good luck,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for Piva, Pavao, Viveiros, Torres

[Joe Matias]

Here is the Azores passport registration,Look at number 963   Joao and
family.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1875-1883_item1/P164.html

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> In Portuguese you will be looking for Antonio Carlos Pavao. His parents
> would be Joao C. Pavao and Maria. Maria's parents would be Jose Viveiros
> and Maria Torres. The ship bound for Hawaii left from the port of Ponta
> Delgada on Sao Miguel island.
>
> In "Passport Registrations, Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich
> Isles, 1879-1883" by Bob De Mello, lists the following on page 298
>
> Pavao, Joao Carlos, age 51, son of Antonio Carlos and Maria Joaquina, from
> Bretanha, with wife Maria Francisca, age 48, daughter of Jose Inacio Raposo
> and Francisca Candida with children, Francisca, 23, Antonio, 20, Luis, 17,
> Mariana, 14, Margarida, 11, Manuel, 9, all born in Bretanha, came on the
> Bell Rock (sailed 3 Aug 1883-3 Sept 1883).
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading name of child on record - Felicianna?

[Joe Matias]

I believe its Mirencianna

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> Is the name of the child Felicianna?  Bottom right.  Looks like too many
> letters, so what is this name?
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1740-1752_item1/P6.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rainha Santa Isabel connection to Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas

[Joe Matias]

I connect with them!

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 7:48 PM, JR  wrote:

> Your Blog is excellent an well written. Hope you are able to do more
> travelogues and looking forward to seeing your documentary.
>
> JR
>
> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 6:59:09 PM UTC-4, Hermano C. Pires wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the interestng post!
>> Hermano
>>
>>
>> > Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 15:28:52 -0700
>> > From: manita@gmail.com
>> > To: azo...@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rainha Santa Isabel connection to Joao
>> Afonso das Grotas Fundas
>> >
>> > Hello my fellow Azorean genealogy researchers!
>> >
>> > This is my story of how I discovered my connection to Rainha Santa
>> Isabel. Perhaps you're connected to her too?
>> >
>> > The perfect audience for this blog post is newbies to Azorean genealogy
>> research. It's also a beautiful story of how interconnected we all are.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.vamosaic.com/2016/04/23/what-do-vietnam-coimbra-genealogy-dna-testing-azores-joao-afonso-das-grotas-fundas-rainha-santa-isabel-benavente-toledo-and-san-diego-have-in-common/
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Researching Alexander Souza, São Jorge, 1883

[Joe Matias]

Not sure if you have Alexandre's  birth.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1880-1889_item1/P92.html
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Eric Souza 
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> This is amazing - so glad I found this forum! Just emailed Marie. I'm
> doing lots of my research on Ancestry - link to family tree there is
> http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18636350/family?usePUBJs=true
>
> Thank you all for your help, cousins!! :)
>
> - Eric
>
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 4:40:05 PM UTC-7, Azoreanno wrote:
>>
>> I was just gona mention the same :)
>>
>> Marie I couldn't remember who had a connection to this line but I do know
>> lol
>>
>> Eric by the way I am De Sousa Borba also :)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:30 PM, Marie  wrote:
>>
>> Eric:
>>
>> Contact me off the group.  I have information on several generations back
>> from your great grandfather from Topo.   Our families  connect with the De
>> Sousa de Borba line in the late 1700's.
>>
>> Marie Borba Volbeda
>> ma...@volbeda.com
>>
>> Researching Topo, Sao Jorge
>>
>> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-7, Eric Souza wrote:
>>
>>> I'm researching my genealogy, and trying to find information about my
>>> great-grandfather, Alexander Souza.
>>>
>>> We believe Alexander Souza was born on São Jorge in early 1883 (possibly
>>> late 1882?). He immigrated to the San Francisco Bay Area (don't know the
>>> year), and lived in Sausalito, CA. He married Mary Catan Mancebo on May 6,
>>> 1907, and they had my grandfather, Edward Souza, in 1909. Alex died on
>>> March 13, 1915, in Sausalito. Mary died shortly after, and my grandfather
>>> never knew any other details about his father. Other documents show he may
>>> also have been known as Alexander Souza Borba or Alexander S Borba ... is
>>> it accurate that the last name would be Paternal-Maternal, so Souza as the
>>> father's paternal surname and Borba as the mother's paternal surname?
>>>
>>> We don't know the town he is from, or any information about other
>>> relatives. I looked through the parish baptism records here on the
>>> CulturaAcores site
>>> .
>>> Unfortunately I didn't find any records that looked like they could be him.
>>>
>>> Any advice for how to further research this would be great! I've been in
>>> touch with the Star of the Sea parish in Sausalito, and the Portuguese Hall
>>> in Sausalito, but so far, no luck.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eric Souza
>>> ericchar...@gmail.com
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can't read name of child

[Joe Matias]

My guess would be Libana Female

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:56 PM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy <
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> Anyone take a guess at this name? Almost looks like a V word.  Male or
> female?  Thanks!
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-B-1827-1835/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-B-1827-1835_item1/P382.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Is, Rita Margarida da Silva born 1865

[Joe Matias]

I see paternal- Maria do Nascimento and maternal Rosa Victorina.
Unsure if there is a connection.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
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>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1860-1869_item1/P125.html
>
> # 1 top right of page. I am looking for someone to verify the information
> I think I am reading.
>
> Rita legitimate daughter of Manuel Joaquim da Silveira and Margarida Roza
> paternal - Maria de _ single
> maternial - Roza Victorina __  __
>
> I am thinking the above Rita is the mother of Rosa #14 on the following
> link. Would someone please look at these records and give me your opinion.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899/SJR-CH-SANTOANTAO-B-1890-1899_item1/P108.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madrinha of Bento son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo Andre

[Joe Matias]

The other word I believe is Do Convento (Convent)
Here is a picture of the Convent
https://goo.gl/YlaZn3

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Joe Matias <joe.mudd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Could be an  abbreviation for nun (Freira)
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Erica Botelho <
> audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:
>
>> Baptismal record for Bento, son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo
>> Andre – Right side, bottom entry
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776_item1/P98.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the madrinha, Reverend Mother Anna Margarida Joaquina of the religious
>> order Santo Andre of Villa Franca? I am confident of her name, it is the
>> abbreviations before her name and the two words after her name that I am
>> unsure of.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Erica Botelho
>>
>> Vancouver, WA
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a name

[Joe Matias]

Dos Reis is what I see.


On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 4:45 PM,  wrote:

> I don't see a "São" there.  I think it is "dos Reis" but written as "do S
> Reis" if that makes any sense.
>
> Bill Seidler
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 1:12:56 PM UTC-8, Barb Davis wrote:
>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1721-1776/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1721-1776_item1/P76.html
>>
>> In the above record on the left page, line 16 of the record for Mattias
>> Goncalves and Maria de Jesus lists the mother of the groom.  I am having
>> trouble determining her last name.  I see that the groom's father is Manuel
>> Goncalves and his wife is Maria do Sao ?
>>
>> Thanks for the help!
>>
>> Barb
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Familias Antigas da Povoacao

[Joe Matias]

Me Too!

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:35 AM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:

> Same for me. I'd love to check the info on some of my family from Povoação.
>
> Thank you.
>
> MaryAnn
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:24 AM, 'Marcio' via Azores Genealogy <
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>> I wouldn't mind a copy or a link either :)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Jorge Medeiros 
>> wrote:
>>
>> EResendes,
>> Can you, please, send me a link to view the book Familias Antigas da
>> Povoação online.
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 8:48:07 AM UTC-4, EResendes wrote:
>>>
>>> Manita,
>>>
>>> I had a scanned copy.  I just sent you a link to view the book online.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 3:58:15 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado wrote:

 Does anyone have a copy of the book "Familias Antigas da Povoacao" that
 they could email me as a pdf?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with a Rodrigo Rodriques awkward translation

[Joe Matias]

Hi Mary Ann.This info was given to me.Hope it helps.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:28 PM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:

> Thank you, Angela! I really appreciate the help.
>
> MaryAnn
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ângela Loura 
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>> *Afonso Lourenço is appointed as well by his son-in-law Tomé Vaz Pacheco
>> in his testament of 05-09-1516, in which he is claimed to be his
>> father-in-law and is already decased.*
>>
>> 2016-02-12 17:36 GMT+00:00 MaryAnn Santos :
>>
>>> I'm translating RR and not sure if I've translated the following
>>> sentence correctly...
>>> I'm having a problem with a sentence in R.R. I'm not sure of the
>>> translation and would love it if someone could help.
>>>
>>> Here is the entire Portuguese text followed by my translation with the
>>> area in yellow highlight where the translation is "iffy".
>>>
>>> *"Afonso Lourenço, a quem Frutuoso também chama João Afonso Lourenço,
>>> mas cujo verdadeiro nome é Afonso Lourenço, como consta de um libelo que
>>> seu neto Gaspar Lourenço propôs a seu tio (dele Gaspar Lourenço) Domingos
>>> Afonso, libelo que foi julgado em Lisboa a 17.3.1558. Afonso Lourenço é
>>> também assim nomeado pelo genro Tomé Vaz Pacheco no seu t. (testemento) de
>>> 9.5.1516, em que diz ser ele seu sogro e já f. (falecido). Afonso Lourenço
>>> veio de Portugal para a ilha de S. Miguel, onde foi Procurador do Número. A
>>> sua nomeação foi feita a 12.7.1492. ('Arquivo dos Açores', Vol. I, página
>>> 315). Segundo Frutuoso foi c.c. (casado com) Joana Pimentel ou Joana
>>> Lourenço Tição, mas diz of Dr. Ernesto do Canto que o seu nome é Branca
>>> Gonçalves, e parece de facto, ser este último o seu verdadeiro nome, que
>>> vem citado no libelo acima referido" R.R., Chapter 9, p 177*
>>>
>>> "Afonso Lourenço, whom Frutuoso also called João Afonso Lourenço, but
>>> whose real name is Afonso Lourenço, as he was called in a libel (libelo)
>>> that his grandsom Gaspar Lourenço proposed to his uncle (of Gaspar
>>> Lourneço) Domingos Afonso,  a libel (libelo) that was judged in Lisbon
>>> March 17 1558. Afonso Lourenço is also named thus by law  (son-in-law)
>>> Tomé Vaz Pacheco in his testament of April 9 1516 in which it says (or he
>>> says) he to be the father-in-law and is already deceased. Afonso
>>> Lourenço came from Portugal to the island of São Miguel, where he was
>>> Procurador do Número (Attorney of Number?). His appointment was made July
>>> 12, 1492 *(“Archivo dos Açores”, Vol. 1, page 315)*. According to
>>> Frutuoso he was married to Joana Pimentel or Joana Lourenço Tição, but Dr.
>>> Ernest do Canto says that her name is Branca Gonçalves, and it actually
>>> seems to be that the latter is her real name, that is cited in the libel
>>> referred to above." R.R., Chapter 9, p 177
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] fragoso

[Joe Matias]

When did your grandfather die?

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 12:24 PM, 'Jo Anne Hartmann' via Azores Genealogy <
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>
>
> There is a Manuel de Mello listed as 794 (?) hard to read #'s.  Medeiros
> was my grandmother's maiden name.  #815 I think would have made him too old
> if he was born in 1866.  Supposedly he was only 15 when he went to Hawaii.
>
> I found a "stowaway" on a ship in 1881 for a Manuel Mello - no other info
> however!
>
> Unfortunately I cannot read Portugese....
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> *Sent:* Sunday, January 24, 2016 3:28 AM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] fragoso
>
> Hi Jo ,here is who I believe to be your grandfather.
> He is number 815  on the passport  registration dated Nov.24 1880
> destination Sandwhich isalnds
> His parents are listed to the right of his name. He was from Santa Cruz
> Lagoa,Sao Miguel Island.
> Also here is his Birth record .All the names match up.He was born May
> 17,1858
> Also states he was single on his passport. Hope this helps Joe Matias
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

[Joe Matias]

Jr ,where did you find that info on Manuel de Andrade Fragoso married Maria
Madalena do Rego Meireles/Meibeles? native of Rabo de Peixe, May 7- 1922.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Well, there might be something to the story as I descend from the Fragoso
> line of Lagoa, however two generations down the line one son carried on
> with the Fragoso name while my ancestor took on the name Meireles.  His
> son, was first married in Rabo de Peixe.  Linda mentions Madalena carried
> the name Meireles which makes me wonder if there is indeed a connection.
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:14 PM, JR  wrote:
>
>> Manuel de Andrade Fragoso married Maria Madalena do Rego
>> Meireles/Meibeles? native of Rabo de Peixe, May 7- 1922.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899_item1/P144.html
>>
>> Rabo de Peixe casamentos- Nov 4- 1896, Jacintho d' Andrade com
>> Escholastica de Jesus, dispensados, 4th degree collateral, 17 Oct, (1696?)
>> elle idade de trinta sies annos , pescador, viuvo de Maria de Jesus,
>> fallecida n'esta dita fraguesia d'onde e natural e seu pai e moradore e foi
>> baptizado, filho de Francisco de Andrade e Maria Candida natural da
>> fraguesia de NS da Conceicao dita Villa, e ella a nubente d' idade de vinte
>> e nove annos domestica, solteira, natural e seus pais d'esta graguesia do
>> Senhor Bom Jesus onde e moradora e foi baptizada, filha de Jose Vieira e
>> Maria Izabel...Test- Jose d'Amaral lavrador, morador n'esta fraguesia e
>> Joao Pacheco camponez morador na fraguesia do Cabouco...
>>
>> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:02:06 PM UTC-5, Linda McLellan wrote:
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>>> Thanks Cherri,  I will try to go back and do some more research
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:13:20 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Linda McL,

 You need to watch out for "family stories."  Sometimes, that is what
 they are - just stories. Usually told to amuse the kids (especially before
 radio and television). These kids grew up and became our parents or
 grandparents and retold the stories that they heard as children. And
 childhood memories can be funny things. No one wants to call grandma a
 liar, but if she is telling a story that she heard as a child, it may be
 just a story that was told to amuse her. Little kids are gullible and
 believe most things they are told.

 Manuel's baptism had margin notes. Only 1 marriage was noted. I think
 it said he married in the 1920s. Those records are not online. I've seen
 margin notes where they noted the marriage, noted that the marriage was
 dissolved by death of the spouse and they married a 2nd time. Could someone
 have forgot to note a marriage? Well, they are human and humans make
 mistakes. But probably not. The only way to be sure would be to order
 Manuel's marriage from the 1920s and see if it says he was the widower of
  and is marrying Maria Cabral.

 You need to go back to Manuel's parents' marriage - the marriage of
 Jacinto d'Andrade and Escolastica de Jesus. It's in Rabo de Peixe in 1896.
 It's going to clarify some of your questions above and raise more.

 28 is not too old to get married. Many married when they were older in
 the Azores.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for any Fragoso descendants from Sao Miguel

[Joe Matias]

What is your father's name and when did he arrive in Canada?

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> My name is Linda and my father immigrated from Rabo de Peixe, Azores to
> Canada.  Our family last name is Fragoso which is very rare.  Would love to
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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Merry Christmas everyone!!

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> Merry Xmas everyone hope you have safe Holidays!!
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>> breakthroughs in our Portuguese lines in 2016!   A special thanks to Cheri
>> for all the help and patience she has had with me and my lack of technical
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>> Special thanks to Cheri and JR without whom I wouldn't have a Portuguese
>> Ancestry. God bless all the little helpers on this list and lets make 2016
>> even better for others who are working on their Portuguese ancestry!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name on baptism record

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Looks like Bibiana

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Paul  wrote:

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> I am trying to find the birth/baptism record for my 6th ggrandfather
> Francisco de Mello. I know the link below is not for him but it lists his
> parents, Ignacio de Mello and Catherina da Silva so this has to be a
> sibling and I am unable to read the name. The record is on the left below
> Miguel's.
>
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1710-1718_item1/P29.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fixing Error in Tree

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Yes,you have the correct parent names for Manuel.
They are from Sao Miguel (Matriz),Vila Franca do Campo,Sao Miguel.
Manuel was born 03 October 1846
Godparents-Jose dos Santos Tavares (solteiro)single from Sao Pedro,Vila
Franca and Theresa Lucianna
witnesses were Manuel Jacinto dos Santos and Antonio Cabral.
Manuel Luiz and Maria de Jesus were married 28 December 1873
Manuel is 27 years old from Sao Miguel (Matriz), Vila Franca do Campo,
Son of Antonio Luiz and Francisca Thomazia.
Maria is 24 years old from Sao Miguel (Matriz), Vila Franca do Campo
daughter of Manuel da Costa and Claudina da Conceicao.

Manuel da Costa and Claudina da Conceicao are my 2X greatgrandparents
direct line, Manuel da Costa Mathias.Maria would be my greatgrandfather's
(Antonio da Costa Mathias) older sister.

Antonio and Francisca  married 20 April 1835
Antonio 22 years old son of Francisco Luiz and Maria do Rosario.
Francisca 18 years old daughter of Joao de Pimentel and Rosa jacinta.

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Hope to hear fom you Joe Matias
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> Hello
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> I am trying to fix a major error of having the incorrect ancestors in my
> tree and I want to correctly translate the attached records. Any help
> translating these would really be appreciated.
>
> *I do like to try to translate these myself as you can pick up more every
> time you try to read them so let me know how wrong I am
> at deciphering these.*
>
> I just want to verify that the parents of Manuel Luiz are Antonio Luiz
> and Francisca Thomazia in the baptism record attached. It looks like they
> lived in Arcanjo X Sao Miguel (*Someplace*) Vila Franca. The date cento
> (looks like a q or a g here?) Father Jose De Santos Tavares then the
> parish. Are the godparents Manuel Jacinto Dos Santos and Antonia Cabral?
>
> The marriage of Manuel Luiz and Maria de Jesus is so light I am very lost.
> Looks like a Sunday. The rest is difficult to read. It looks like the names
> Antonio Luiz de Fonseca? and then a few lines later a Manuel Da Costa? Then
> a Manuel Jacinto De Andrede? I know I butchered this one. Is Maria De Jesus
> parents listed?
>
> The last is the marriage record of Antonio Luis and Francisca Thomazia. I
> can make out Miguel Da Vila Franca? third line down. I think I see the name
> of Francisco Tavares De Paim? and a Mariano (Something) Lopes, Manuel
> Furtado.
>
> I want to get these correct because the last 2 years I have had the wrong
> people listed and I have been building on that incorrect information since.
> These are my correct ancestors finally.
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> Let me know if you need more information.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fixing Error in Tree

[Joe Matias]

Todd,I talk to another relation of Mathias da Costa Andrade and her tree
keeps Pimentel as their surname and some keep Andrade..go figure!

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:16 PM, brownat68  wrote:

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>
> I know I have the correct family line now because the Pimentel surname is
> showing up finally. My grandfather Furtado went to live with a Pimental
> family in Taunton, MA when his mother died in 1931.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help

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He is 21 and she is 28
Brides mother is Jacintha de Jesus
16 December 1877

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> 1. does this record have the ages of the bride and groom? Joao de fonseca
> and Antonia de jesus
> 2. can you confirm if the marriage date is December 28, 1877?
> 3. Can you make out the name if the brides mother?
>
> Thanking everyone!
>
> Monica
> Sao Miguel- capelas, candelaria, Sete Cidades: Paiva, Revoredo, Rego,
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-CANDELARIA-C-1870-1879_item1/P60.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lomba da Maia , Sao Miguel

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I would love to have a copy!

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 12:26 PM, MaryAnn Santos  wrote:

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> will get back to you.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandparents name in Baptism record

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The word is not Paula ,but e pela meaning( and for) maternal.If you look
below you will see a better view of the words( e pela).

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Looks like Maria Paula? For the paternal grandmother and for the other it
 is da Costa

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Grandparents name in Baptism record

[Joe Matias]

Paternal is Rosa Maria
Maternal is Francisco Leal da Costa

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 Hi,

 I need help with the grandparents name in this record. It is the record of
 Jose on the Left Middle :
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1825-1852/FAL-HT-CAPELO-B-1825-1852_item1/P200.html

 for the grandparents on the fathers side it looks like Francisco Dutra
 D'Andrade and Maria_ ?

 on the mothers side it looks like Francisco Leal da _ and Maria
 Felicia?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Problem on CCA Website?

[Joe Matias]

Same for me!

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 4:20 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Mary,

 I have Norberta Amorim's book which includes Sao Mateus. If you know the
 name and approximate date of the baptism, it's possible that I can look it
 up for you.

 Gayle

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 I'm working today in the 1883-1890 Baptismo book for Sao Mateus, Pico.  I
 see the images correctly on most pages, but in one section, I only get the
 page number and size of the file.  For me, this is occurring from page
 43-50, which of course is RIGHT where I want to search.  I'm wondering if
 anyone else is getting this problem when they look at the site?  If so, is
 there any way to let CCA know of the error so they can fix it?  Here is the
 link:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1883-1890/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-B-1883-1890_item1/P50.html



 Thanks in advance for letting me know if you are getting the same problem.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help

[Joe Matias]

I believe they were married in California

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 12:26 PM, hcupper hcup...@comcast.net wrote:

 Right-hand page, starting on the eighth line:  After the mother's name,
 Anna Gonsalves Lourenco, there is some reference to Tuolumne County,
 California, that I don't understand.  Any help appreciated.  Hank


 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAGRANDE-B-1861-1889/FLR-LF-FAJAGRANDE-B-1861-1889_item1/P315.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ

[Joe Matias]

it might be Luiz da Costa (Cachinha)

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 1:00 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Manoel, filho de Manoel Luiz e de Maria do Carmo, neto (grandson) paterno
 de Luiz da Costa Sachinha e de Umbelina Thomazia de Jesus, materno de
 Manoel Martins e de Maria Ricarda naturaes desta Parochial igreja de NS do
 Rosario desta Villa de Lagoa; Born- Jan 29- 1859, bap- Feb 1- 1859

  Padrinho- Manoel da Costa solteiro.

 Looking at the other records, the non-use of  the word 'legitimo', does
 not appear to mean anything. It's just the format they use. Neto in this
 case is not part of the name, it means grandchild=grandson.Sachinha is
 undoubtedly a nickname that means hoe, as in the tool that turns the soil.

  JR

 On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859_item1/P283.html


 bottom half of page - MANUEL LUIZ


 child of MANOEL LUIZ  MARIA DO CARMO NETO? (It doesn’t say legitimate
 here so…is it?


 It appears to me that his paternal grandfather is LUIS DA COSTA
 C__ - which would mean that there is a family name change going
 on (or not, which is why I really need help!) and his grandmother appears
 to be UMBELINA THOMASIA DE JESUS


 Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria ___


 Date appears to be 1 February 1859 and I can’t make out the godparents.


 This is my great-grandfather’s (My Dad’s mother’s grandfather) baptismal
 entry. Any help is greatly appreciated and if you happen to have this line
 in your tree I’d love to connect with you. Thanks in advance!


 Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Where to look for marriage records from Agua de Pau earlier than 1729

[Joe Matias]

Thanx JR


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 Look in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca. You may also find some in Lagoa or Vila
 Franca Matriz.

 After checking for marriages, your best bet is to go over the baptisms and
 try to piece together what you can. That's all there is.

 JR


 On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 8:19:55 PM UTC-4, joe m wrote:

 trying to find marriage records earlier than 1729 from AGUA DE
 PAU,lAGOA,SAO MIGUEL
 Thanx joe.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: some dead ends andhopefully some help with dna

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When did they come to the states?
Try a Asvedo,i believe is the spelling in Portuguese

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:26 PM, debra jaynes qatta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I forgot to put my gr grandmothers name we think it is Mary Marcell or
 Marsalle


 On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 5:07:31 PM UTC-7, debra jaynes wrote:

 I have a dead end on my gr grandfather and gr grandmother's lines. His
 name is Joaquin Asivido born in the Azores 1854 and came to the US and
 lived in the Salinas Monterey area of California. Due to the spelling I
 have no luck going back in to the Azores to find connections. Being adopted
 I have no relationship with the Asivido's here. On my gr grandmother's side
 she was born 10/1868 in Texas and died in Monterey10/18/1919. She stated on
 the census that her parents were from Portugal. I have MyFTDNA and Ancestry
 DNA and currently waiting for 23 and me. I am on Gedmatch kit A508251. on
 Ancestry my nic is qattales1. I have a lot of hits on cousins but with no
 actual info on names it has been difficult to find where to start.I was
 thinking I would try to work it like I am in looking for my father and do
 cousin trees to find connections and work forwards. If someone has a
 connection to me on the matches I would love to know.
 Thanks

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: some dead ends andhopefully some help with dna

[Joe Matias]

Sorry,spelling is Azevedo

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Joe Matias joe.mudd...@gmail.com wrote:

 When did they come to the states?
 Try a Asvedo,i believe is the spelling in Portuguese

 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:26 PM, debra jaynes qatta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I forgot to put my gr grandmothers name we think it is Mary Marcell or
 Marsalle


 On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 5:07:31 PM UTC-7, debra jaynes wrote:

 I have a dead end on my gr grandfather and gr grandmother's lines. His
 name is Joaquin Asivido born in the Azores 1854 and came to the US and
 lived in the Salinas Monterey area of California. Due to the spelling I
 have no luck going back in to the Azores to find connections. Being adopted
 I have no relationship with the Asivido's here. On my gr grandmother's side
 she was born 10/1868 in Texas and died in Monterey10/18/1919. She stated on
 the census that her parents were from Portugal. I have MyFTDNA and Ancestry
 DNA and currently waiting for 23 and me. I am on Gedmatch kit A508251. on
 Ancestry my nic is qattales1. I have a lot of hits on cousins but with no
 actual info on names it has been difficult to find where to start.I was
 thinking I would try to work it like I am in looking for my father and do
 cousin trees to find connections and work forwards. If someone has a
 connection to me on the matches I would love to know.
 Thanks

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

[Joe Matias]

My old neighbours were Viola's as well and actual surname is Soares.I came
across an Antonio viola pic on ancestry.com.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting.  I went to Vila Franca and they showed me the viola on the
 wall.  It was made by my ancestor whose alcunha was Viola. And that's the
 word my family used on S.Miguel. Maybe it's a regional thing and maybe
 alcunha just got started through the lists and here we are today!

 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, mnk kamis...@comcast.net wrote:

 Maybe it depends where your ancestors are from. My parents, both from São
 Miguel used apelido for nickname, sobre nome for last name. I only learned
 alcunha from this list and other genealogy lists.
 MNK

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1915

[Joe Matias]

try this link
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1913-1915_item1/index.html

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:59 PM, manueljoselj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone know or is there a place we can find out for the year 1915 how
 many ships left Ponta Delgada, São Miguel w/immigrants? to where they went
 does not matter

 Thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa / Happy Easter thread

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Happy Easter everyone!!

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com
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 Happy Easter and good ancestor and relative hunting.
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 Happy Easter everyone.

 On Sunday, April 5, 2015, Barbara Mecklenburg bamecklenb...@gmail.com
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 Happy Easter everyone!
 ~Barbara Mecklenburg

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 Feliz Pascoa~Happy Easter to all!!

 Rosemarie
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 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Emil ehsilve...@comcast.net wrote:

 Feliz Pascoa! Happy Easter to everyone!

 Emil Silveira

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 Blessed Easter to all

 Sent from my iPhone

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 Feliz Pascoa / Happy Easter to all list members.

 If you'd like to send your Easter greetings, post to this thread only. Do
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with age in death record - Rabo de Peixe, SM

[Joe Matias]

50

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 I need help with the age given for Joao Rapozo Abeilha (left page bottom
 record).


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1808-1818/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-O-1808-1818_item1/P168.html

 I cannot see an age listed at all - unless I'm totally missing it.

 I know that he died on December 7, 1816.  That I can see clearly; just no
 age.

 Thanks!

 Lee Estep, Oak Hill WV

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas, Feliz Natal, Boas Festas thread

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Merry Christmas to all and a very happy new year!!!

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 1:46 PM, 'João Ventura' via Azores Genealogy 
azores@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

 João Ventura
 Terceira

 Enviado do meu iPhone

 No dia 24/12/2014, às 17:36, E. Sharp bellema...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Twas the night before Christmas and all through the house, not a creature
 was stirring, excepting a mouse named “E” who wishes all the wonderful
 people on this great list a VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marriage record help

[Joe Matias]

his parents are Antonio de Bragua new spelling is (Braga) and Isabel
Tavares.1724 I believe is when he had his confirmation.

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I'm trying to decipher a marriage record from Fenais da Luz.  The part
 that I can't figure out is the grooms information: his name is Manuel
 Pereira de Fontes, a native of Rabo de Peixe, but it doesn't list his
 parents.
 The record is from 1725, and it mentions something about 1724.  I
 appreciate any help.  Thank you.  the record is on the bottom, right side
 of the page.

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FENAISDALUZ-C-1716-1740/SMG-PD-FENAISDALUZ-C-1716-1740_item1/P46.html

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Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria baptism

[Joe Matias]

Hi Herb, I am reading the groom as Jose Baptista and bride maybe as
Ernestina

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Herb and Judi Silva 
herbandj...@verizon.net wrote:

 I think I found the record. Maybe someone could validate this.  Left
 side,  married on 30 Oct 1757 Jose Raposo the groom, son of Francisco
 Lopes and wife Catarina de Deus or da Luz, and the bride Antonia Margarida
 daughter of Antonio Andrade and Engracia de Alpoim all of the parish of
 NS da Asssuncao.  If it is Alpoim I have never seen that name.  I have
 see Paim or Payim in some records, so I'm not sure, but it sure looks
 like Alpoim to me.

 It doesn't look like the priest recorded the bride and groom's ages.  Herb

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt
 /biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1755-1777/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1755-1777_item1/P12.
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 On 10/24/14, p...@dholmes.com wrote:

 Herb,

 I would start with the assumption she could be as young as 15.
 While searching for her, also look for any of her siblings. You are bound
 to find some.

 Boa sorte.

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618
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  Original Message 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria baptism
 From: Herb and Judi Silva herbandj...@verizon.net
 Date: Fri, October 24, 2014 1:57 pm
 To: azores@googlegroups.com

 If I'm reading this correctly, the record on the right, my Francisco
 Raposo married Umbellina Francisca on 11 July 1802 in Sao Jose, and he
 was baptized in NS da Assuncao in island of Santa Maria.  I will need to
 do some double and triple checking, but this is likely my first ancestor
 born outside Sao Miguel with the exception of some from Terceira.
 Anyway, this means that he was likely  born in 1770 or late 1769,
 which would be more or less (mais ou menos)   32 years from 1802.  So I
 checked every record in Matriz da NS da Assuncao from 1765 to 1774 3
 times and came up empty.  Should I check other villages in the only
 concelho in that island.  Just wondering if maybe there was some event
 there involving the parishes and  baptisms were actually recorded somewhere
 else?

  Thanks, Herb

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt
 /biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805_item1/P108.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hep with Baptism - Rabo de Piexe

[Joe Matias]

I see what you see Joanne.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Thanks, Joanne!

 I really think this is the same couple that I'm looking for as the parents
 of Rita but will keep looking until I fine her birth record.

 Big part of the problem is that these records are so very faded and its
 hard to see them with these messed up eyes of mine.

 Will be happier once the marriage records are available.

 On with the search!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Rabo de Peixe @ CCA

[Joe Matias]

Thanx Joao!

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:17 PM, João Ventura j...@venturas.org wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 We're down to the final 3 parishes that CCA needs to reach 100% of all
 parishes online: Rabo de Peixe, Ribeira Seca and Ribeirinha.

 Yesterday, the CCA has published the baptism records for Rabo de Peixe, as
 you can see here:
 https://tombo.pt/en/content/new-parish-books-in-20141022#CCA

 Joao C. Ventura
 https://tombo.pt/en

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Margin notes

[Joe Matias]

June 15 1941

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote:


 (Oops- I forgot to include the link first time I sent this request.
 thanks Cheri-
 
 
 
  On lower left, for GIL
 
  can anyone decipher the year this individual died.  I read he died in
 parish of Sao Sebastao in Ponta Delgada and something about some fee and
 then a date  but I can't figure out if it says 4 June !(?) the year.  If I
 could figure the date and year, then I could search the obits in Sao
 Sebastiao.  (At first I thought it said 1941- if so, then there's. O obits
 for that recent a date- if that what it says).
 
  Any help would be appreciated.   Thank you.
 
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P622.html
 
 
  Maria Elena

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico da Pedra up on CCA

[Joe Matias]

Thanx Pam,thats one  of the areas I need!

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 Pico da Pedra records are online on CCA site for those who have ancestors
 from there.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with a word in casamentos

[Joe Matias]

its seven ( e sette).Also if you look to the right in the margin ,it has
their ages .Him 21 and Her 19


On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Paul pagome...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hello,

 The link below is for my 4X great grandparents Jose da Silva and Florinda
 (de Jesus) Angelica. I am having a problem trying to figure out the word
 between centos and anno(s). The record in question is on the right.


 *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812_item1/P124.html*
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1799-1812_item1/P124.html

 Thanks,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with marriage record - FENAIS DA LUZ, PONTA DELGADA

[Joe Matias]

May 14 1777
Maria thereza daughter of Antonio de Medeiros da Costa and Izabel Cordeiro
..(Izabel is already passed away)

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 I am in need of a little help with the marriage record of Luis Pereira
 (widower) and Maria Thereza (right page).

 I read the date as May 14, 1767.

 Luis is the widower of Paula de Sam Thomas who is buried in Sao Sebastiao.

 Maria Thereza is the daughter of Antonio de Mederios da Costa and *Ca?
 de Jesus? da Baptizada (not sure if the da Baptizada is part of her name or
 not).*

 I need help her Maria's mothers name.  This record is hard for me to read
 for me.

 Any and all help; suggestions, great appreciated.

 Thank you.


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 Lee Estep,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry Global is Free until Sept 1

[Joe Matias]

Thanx Pam


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 I just received an email for those who are no subscribed to Ancestry their
 Global collection is free to search til Sep 1

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sebastião de Pimentel - Marriage in Fenais da Ajuda

[Joe Matias]

I am going to say ignacio da sylva(silva) and Maria pimentel is what I see.


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Rodney Figueiredo rodn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I need help deciphering the groom's parents on the marriage record for
 Sebastião de Pimentel and Martha de Resende.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1730-1772/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1730-1772_item1/P67.html

 I can't make out the parents of the groom, other than the last name of the
 mother which I've identified as Pimentel.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

[Joe Matias]

Happy Birthday, Lionel..Amazing!


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 Happy Birthday!!


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   Happy Birthday, Lionel! Wow, 95 years young, that's great. Hope you
 have a very good day!  Luv, Prima Rosemarie

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 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] oldest list member

  I believe Cheri identified my father, Lionel Rocha Holmes, as the
 oldest of our list members.

 It also happens to be his birthday today. He turned 95 and still going
 strong - drives his own car, active in the PHCS. Pretty amazing. We already
 had a big party on Sunday.

 Happy Birthday, Dad!

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito Santa Maria Baptism

[Joe Matias]

AHH NICE..mothers side coming up!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brides fathers surname

[Joe Matias]

d e Faria?


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 I need help in decipher the brides fathers name I know its Manuel ? and
 Maria Perdigao. Would greatly appreciate another set of eyes looking at
 this. Left page in middle for Antonio Duarte and Maria Perdiago.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Problem with server

[Joe Matias]

Me too! They must be in the process of adding more records.


On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:54 PM, blackice...@comcast.net wrote:


 Hi, I was wondering if anyone is having trouble with the CCA server. I
 haven't been able to get on for about 5 hours.

 Pat Mello

 Winter snow warning for New England for tomorrow. Heavy snow into Monday '
 Here we go again





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria up on CCA Site

[Joe Matias]

I will be busy!!




On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cheri,

 the newest one is Almagreira, and there are a few online books already,
 before those years, one must go to Assunção, in other words, Vila do Porto.
 And those are the only Parishes online for now.


 On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are 5 freguesias on Santa Maria, but 4 only have records because
 one is too new.  You can find them on the Azores GenWeb page and Kathy
 will provide the links to the CCA records from the Azores GenWeb site.  You
 can also access the records from the Tombo site, but he hasn't crawled the
 CCA yet.  Maybe tonight. http://tombo.pt/d/acores


 On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Repost for Maria Lima:
 I just found Santa Maria island is online.  I just don't know if that's
 all the parishes for now.  Got lots,of looking to do and the priest had
 beautiful penmanship.  (At least the Casa mentors in 1790-ish.

 Maria Elena

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help With Translation

[Joe Matias]

fenda da rua is actually fundo da rua meaning end of the street.They lived
at the end of the street.
After that it reads neta paterno (paternal granddaughter of Marianno and
barbara and maternal grandparents are unknown.Padrinhos (godparents )
Francisco Raposo de Resendes,labourer and his sister Maria Raposa de
resendes house wife and single


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shannon H,

 There's a translation guide here:
 goo.gl/VTMlZG

 Your sentence: moradores no sendo da ??rua?? neta ??fia??
 Is: moradores nofenda da rua; neta pa-
 ternal de..

 The nofenda is wrong.  It's something like living on Fenda da Rua or
 whatever that street name is.  Then it starts in with granddaughter
 paternal (hyphenated).

 Cheri




 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:06 PM, shannon hooper 
 shannondhoo...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hello,

 I have just recently begun tracing family lines into the Azores and have
 just recently discovered this group. I was hoping that you could help.
  I've been able to translate some of this record, but I am completely lost
 with the remainder.  I have included the link to the record and the
 translation I've been able to complete.  Any insight would be greatly
 appreciated!



 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1884-1887/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1884-1887_item1/P48.html

 N 22 Maria
 Aos vinte e tres dias do mez maio do ano demil oito cento oitenta seis
 nesta Fayal parochial de Nossa Senhora da Graca do lugar do Fayalconcelho da
 Pavoacao Diocese de Angra baptisei solenemente um individuo sexo feminino a
 quem dei a nome de Maria e que nasceunesta frequezia nulas quatro horas
 of a tarde de dia quatorze deste mesmo mês filha legítimaprimeira of a
 nome de Manuel Pereira de Mello trabalhador natural of esta frequezia e
 Fria de Jesus do occupaceo domestica natural a freqiezia de Nossa
 Senhora Mae De DeosLa villa da Pavoacao recebido nesta de Nossa Senhora
 da Graca onde são paroquianosmoradores no sendo da ??rua?? neta ??fia?? termo
 de Mariano Pereira e Barbara de Mello materno de avós incógnitos
 forem padrinhos

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I'm having trouble with surname of mother of the bride.

[Joe Matias]

My quess for surname would be macedo,i have seen this surname in many
records


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.comwrote:



  Hello,

   I'm having trouble identifying the surname of mother of the bride, Maria
 de ?  Initially, I thought it was Machado, but  de Machado doesn't sound
 right.I also thought de Mello, but it looks a little too long for
 that.Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks.

 This is a marriage between Manoel de Medeiros and Umbelina Joanna, top
 left of page.


 http://goo.gl/1mAKhJ



 Marriage of Manoel de Medeiros and Umbelina Joanna.  Manoel;s parents are
 Joao de Medeiros and Francisco da Piedade.

  Umbelina's parents are Joao de Medeiros and Maria de ?

  Manoel de Medeiros is a Brilhante from Ponta Garca and I'm trying to
 connect him to my Medeiros Brilhante's in Faja de Baixo.  I have all of
 Manoel and Umbelina's children, but none list the grandparents.






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New addition to family

[Joe Matias]

Parabéns!



On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Eileen Leite eileenle...@seleite.comwrote:

 How wonderful! Congratulations to you all!



 *From:* Marcio Borba [mailto:marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 1:31 PM
 *To:* Azores Group

 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] New addition to family



 For those who have me in their tree I would like to announce the new
 addition to the family, my daughter, Julia Rosa Estrela Borba, born Jan 9
 2014, in Oakville, Ontario, Canada.



 Marcio Borba
 Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Vila Franco do Campo records Baptism are UP

[Joe Matias]

NICE!


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Cheryl Lawrence cheryl...@gmail.comwrote:

 So excited!  Can't wait until I get home tonight and can peruse the
 records.
 On Jan 10, 2014 9:30 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep looks like they passed over ribeirda grande and are doing villa
 Franco do campo

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, Flamengos, Faial

[Joe Matias]

Hi,Antonio.I believe the brides father name reads Antonio Francisco Duarte


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Antonio Raposo antorap...@hotmail.comwrote:

 I think the groom's name is Antonio Francisco Duarte

 Sábado, 28 de Dezembro de 2013 13:56:20 UTC-5, Doug da Rocha Holmes
 escreveu:

 What a funny coincidence. I was just looking at a record a few pages away
 from yours.

 9 May 1799 is the date of your record.

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618
 www.dholmes.com


   Original Message 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help, Flamengos, Faial
 From: Lee shor...@suddenlink.net
 Date: Sat, December 28, 2013 11:38 am
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com

 This is the marriage record of Antonio Sylveira and Anna Luiza (right
 page, middle)

 I can make out the parents names (Francisco Sylveira and Rita Ignacia for
 the groom and Antonio Francisco Dutra and Maria Ignacia for the bride).

 I am having trouble with the date; think it says 1789l but not positive.

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-
 HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1758-1820/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1758-1820_item1/P129.html

 Thanks and any help greatly appreciated.

 Lee in WV.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pimentels

[Joe Matias]

Hi Nancy,I'm also a  descendant of Eva Lopes and Alvaro
Lopes,their son Manuel Vieira Galvão.


On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Nancy Couto nvcouto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Manoel,

 I guess that makes Mecia Afonso (the mother) our common ancestor.  I
 descend from Eva Lopes, daughter of Mecia (the daughter) and Alvaro
 Lopes.  It's good to find a new cousin.

 Nancy


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  Hi Nancy,
 
  I also descend from Pedro Esteves da Rocha Machado through his grandson
  Pedro Afonso da Rocha m. to Margarida Afonso.
 
  I descend from two children of Pedro and Margarida: Duarte Pires da Rocha
  and Isabel Pires.
 
 
  Manoel Cesar Furtado
 
  Em quinta-feira, 26 de dezembro de 2013 15h41min17s UTC-2, NancyC
 escreveu:
 
  Hi, Eliseu.
 
  I'm attaching a report on the descendants of Pedro Esteves Rocha e
  Machado, my infamous 17th great-grandfather.  His name is sometimes
  written as Pedro Esteves da Rocha Machado.  He appears to be the head
  of the Villa Franca do Campo branch of my ancestors.  He must have had
  connections in high places, because when he arrived on Sao Miguel he
  was given fertile land between two volcanoes on the beach at Agua
  d'Alto.  He was an ancestor on my Pereira line.  My Frias ancestors
  were mostly from Rosario, Lagoa, which is not far away.
 
  Do these names ring any bells?
 
  Nancy
 
 
 
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   Hi Nancy!
  
   Do you have any FRIAS from Água d'Alto, Vila Franca do Campo?
  
   Eliseu
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pimentels

[Joe Matias]

Hi Shirley,my manuel viera galvao was married to catarina anes i believe
she might be his third wife.


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Shirley Allegre
shir...@digitalpath.netwrote:

  Was your Manuel Vieira Galvao married to Catharina Nunes?
 Shirley in CA

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 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pimentels

 Hi Nancy,I'm also a  descendant of Eva Lopes and Alvaro
 Lopes,their son Manuel Vieira Galvão.


 On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Nancy Couto nvcouto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Manoel,

 I guess that makes Mecia Afonso (the mother) our common ancestor.  I
 descend from Eva Lopes, daughter of Mecia (the daughter) and Alvaro
 Lopes.  It's good to find a new cousin.

 Nancy


 On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 2:00 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Nancy,
 
  I also descend from Pedro Esteves da Rocha Machado through his grandson
  Pedro Afonso da Rocha m. to Margarida Afonso.
 
  I descend from two children of Pedro and Margarida: Duarte Pires da
 Rocha
  and Isabel Pires.
 
 
  Manoel Cesar Furtado
 
  Em quinta-feira, 26 de dezembro de 2013 15h41min17s UTC-2, NancyC
 escreveu:
 
  Hi, Eliseu.
 
  I'm attaching a report on the descendants of Pedro Esteves Rocha e
  Machado, my infamous 17th great-grandfather.  His name is sometimes
  written as Pedro Esteves da Rocha Machado.  He appears to be the head
  of the Villa Franca do Campo branch of my ancestors.  He must have had
  connections in high places, because when he arrived on Sao Miguel he
  was given fertile land between two volcanoes on the beach at Agua
  d'Alto.  He was an ancestor on my Pereira line.  My Frias ancestors
  were mostly from Rosario, Lagoa, which is not far away.
 
  Do these names ring any bells?
 
  Nancy
 
 
 
  On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
  eliseu...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi Nancy!
  
   Do you have any FRIAS from Água d'Alto, Vila Franca do Campo?
  
   Eliseu
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas / Merry Christmas 2013 thread

[Joe Matias]

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND MAY ALL YOUR ANCESTORS APPEAR IN 2014!


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Emil ehsilve...@comcast.net wrote:

 Merry Christmas to all people of good will   May all have the joy of
 family connections in the New Year.

 Cousin Emil

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 *From: *Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
 *To: *Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:11:54 AM

 *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Natal / Boas Festas / Merry Christmas
 2013 thread

 Feliz Natal and Merry Christmas to you!

 For those wishing to send Christmas greetings, please respond to this
 thread only.  Don't start your own.

 You can send your greetings until 12:01 a.m. YOUR time on Dec. 26th.

 Hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas!

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 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara cemetery in Povoacao

[Joe Matias]

thanx Ricardo,I appreciate the help!


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Joe,

 I think you should start by looking into:

 Sao Miguel -- Povoacao -- Matriz da Mae de Deus (filter sequence at CCA)

 -Santa Barbara cemetery is part of the Chapel (Ermida) of Santa Barbara,
 at Morro Alto.

 -Morro Alto is part of Freguesia da Povoacao, elevated to Vila in 1839.

 -Povoacao is part of the Council of Povoacao and the church (Padroeira) is
 Nossa Senhora da Mae de Deus.

 Inside the domain of the Freguesia of Povoacao (Church Mae de Deus) you
 will find also these places: Morro, Lomba do Cavaleiro, Carro, Botão, Pomar
 e Pós.

 Pay special attention if in the records the vicar mentions Lomba do Carro,
 because that's where the cemetery is, and its called Cemetery of Santa
 Barbara.

 Good luck. Cheers

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Groom's father - terrible record. And an example of the black zone

[Joe Matias]

Here is another good site for viewing images.
http://www.befunky.com/create/photo-effects/


On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Antonio,

 OK will do.  Thanks for your help.

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