[AZORES-Genealogy] Merry Christmas and Feliz Natal thread
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Melody Lasalle
thank you Cheri Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Mel's email is islandrou...@gmail.com. Her website: www.yourislandroutes.com > > She just moved last weekend and may not be entirely set up. Cheri > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > >> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 11:35 AM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> Does anyone have a good email address for a Melody Lasalle. I understand >> that she has a very good data base of Azorean families who immigrated to >> Hawaii in the 1800s. >> >> thanks >> >> Herb >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/40287b39-5dfe-411e-96b5-aeb1eeb8c0d9%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/SIh2DIBQnkg/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.googlecom/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H5t_4NwYJskx4Q8gWeEQhE0hzMxfoQ%2BehSAVD_ZxiHug%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/C241D2FD-E20F-495B-B0CF-75412570A853%40verizon.net.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Melody Lasalle
Does anyone have a good email address for a Melody Lasalle. I understand that she has a very good data base of Azorean families who immigrated to Hawaii in the 1800s. thanks Herb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/40287b39-5dfe-411e-96b5-aeb1eeb8c0d9%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
thank you so much JR. Herb Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2019, at 12:34 AM, JR wrote: > > This is baptism of Manoel, bap- March 23- 1873, Furnas, No- 30, (matches > birth date of record Margaret posted) , filho de Jose Rebelo and Maria de > Jesus. Says they are natives of Furnas. > > http://culturacoresazores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1870-1876/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1870-1876_item1/P113.html > > JR > > > >> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 11:00:53 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote: >> Cheri, didn’t see that email. Thank you. >> >> >> >> From: Cheri Mello >> Sent: May 7, 2019 10:33 PM >> To: Azores Genealogy >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia >> >> >> >> That's for Herb. I'm not researching the guy. The dates are way off from the >> original immigration of 1865-1873, and if Manuel dies in 1950-1955 at the >> age of 90, then he was born 1860-1865. Still doesn't fit what I found. So >> Herb and his friend have more work to do. It's the closest I can find, but >> it's like putting a square peg into a round hole. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:26 PM Margaret Vicente wrote: >> >> Cheri, >> >> >> >> Here are the details >> >> >> >> José Rebelo >> Description level >> Item >> >> Reference code >> PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893 >> >> Date range >> 1882-03-30 >> >> Scope and content >> Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus. >> Idade: 42 anos. >> Estado: Casado. >> Profissão: Trabalhador. >> Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas. >> Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de 9 >> anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses. >> Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch. >> Destino: Sandwich. >> Description physical location >> Lv. 1385 >> Nº 0304/1882 >> >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> From: Cheri Mello >> Sent: May 7, 2019 10:21 PM >> To: Azores Genealogy >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia >> >> >> >> The immigration year is wy off as well. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, page >> 375: >> >> >> >> Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel >> >> Maria de Jesus, 38 wife >> >> Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2 >> >> >> >> NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's >> typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not my >> typo again. >> >> >> >> NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) >> arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been >> crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too. >> >> >> >> There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book. >> >> >> >> The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the >> ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family or >> not. >> >> >> >> Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: >> http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Debbie >> >> >> >> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the >> 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta >> were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s >> father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from >> one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one. Maybe he used >> Vardasco instead of Roballo when he came over? >> >> >> >> Herb
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
25 not 15 Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2019, at 10:42 PM, 'herb' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > thanks Margaret but something is still not clicking. Manuel Roballo was 62 > years old during the 1930 California census and Andrieta was 44. If his age > was correct at 62’ he would have been born in 1868 and upon his arrival in > 1893 on the Monarch would have been 15 years old not 9. Those ages were > often wrong but usually only by a year or two maybe 3 but not 6. Still it is > a very promising lead. Many thanks to you and Cheri. > > Herb > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 7, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Margaret Vicente >> wrote: >> >> Cheri, >> >> Here are the details >> >> José Rebelo >> Description level >> Item >> Reference code >> PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893 >> Date range >> 1882-03-30 <60802E80CABF4E0B899757B157082214.png> >> Scope and content >> Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus. >> Idade: 42 anos. >> Estado: Casado. >> Profissão: Trabalhador. >> Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas. >> Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de 9 >> anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses. >> Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch. >> Destino: Sandwich. >> Description physical location >> Lv. 1385 >> Nº 0304/1882 >> >> Margaret >> >> From: Cheri Mello >> Sent: May 7, 2019 10:21 PM >> To: Azores Genealogy >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia >> >> The immigration year is wy off as well. >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello wrote: >> From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, page >> 375: >> >> Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel >> Maria de Jesus, 38 wife >> Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2 >> >> NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's >> typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not my >> typo again. >> >> NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) >> arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been >> crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too. >> >> There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book. >> >> The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the >> ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family or >> not. >> >> Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: >> http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> Thanks Debbie >> >> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the >> 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta >> were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s >> father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from >> one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one Maybe he used >> Vardasco instead of Roballo when he came over? >> >> Herb >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com >> >> Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com. >> >> Post: >> Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955) >> >> That is from a family tree. They named their son Joseph after his brother >> Manuel’s dad was Jose. Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva. I’m not >> finding Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave. >> >> His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala, >> Hawaii around 1901 or 1903. Buried in Hayward, Ca. >> >> Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father. >> >> Debbie >> >> >> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello wrote: >> I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlto
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
thanks Margaret but something is still not clicking. Manuel Roballo was 62 years old during the 1930 California census and Andrieta was 44. If his age was correct at 62’ he would have been born in 1868 and upon his arrival in 1893 on the Monarch would have been 15 years old not 9. Those ages were often wrong but usually only by a year or two maybe 3 but not 6. Still it is a very promising lead. Many thanks to you and Cheri. Herb Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Margaret Vicente > wrote: > > Cheri, > > Here are the details > > José Rebelo > Description level > Item > Reference code > PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893 > Date range > 1882-03-30 <60802E80CABF4E0B899757B157082214.png> > Scope and content > Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus. > Idade: 42 anos. > Estado: Casado. > Profissão: Trabalhador. > Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas. > Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de 9 > anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses. > Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch. > Destino: Sandwich. > Description physical location > Lv. 1385 > Nº 0304/1882 > > Margaret > > From: Cheri Mello > Sent: May 7, 2019 10:21 PM > To: Azores Genealogy > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia > > The immigration year is wy off as well. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, page > 375: > > Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel > Maria de Jesus, 38 wife > Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2 > > NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's > typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not my > typo again. > > NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) > arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been > crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too. > > There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book. > > The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the > ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family or > not. > > Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: > http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > Thanks Debbie > > yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the > 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta > were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s > father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from > one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one. Maybe he used > Vardasco instead of Roballo when he came over? > > Herb > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com > > Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com. > > Post: > Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955) > > That is from a family tree. They named their son Joseph after his brother > Manuel’s dad was Jose. Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva. I’m not finding > Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave. > > His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala, > Hawaii around 1901 or 1903. Buried in Hayward, Ca. > > Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father. > > Debbie > > > On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no > Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a son, > Manuel. :( > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia their gg > grandfather was from in the Azores. His name was Manuel Robello, that is the > spelling for past 100+ years, not Rebelo. His wife's surname was Henrietta &g
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
Thanks Debbie yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one. Maybe he used Vardasco instead of Roballo when he came over? Herb Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com > > Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com. > > Post: > Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955) > > That is from a family tree. They named their son Joseph after his brother > Manuel’s dad was Jose. Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva. I’m not finding > Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave. > > His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala, > Hawaii around 1901 or 1903. Buried in Hayward, Ca. > > Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father. > > Debbie > > >> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello wrote: >> I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no >> Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a son, >> Manuel. :( >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy >>> wrote: >>> I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia their gg >>> grandfather was from in the Azores. His name was Manuel Robello, that is >>> the spelling for past 100+ years, not Rebelo. His wife's surname was >>> Henrietta da Silva, may have been Enriquetta. Manuel immigrated to Pahala >>> Hawaii. with his father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello. They arrived >>> in Hawaii possibly 1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe >>> is is Alameda County and died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is >>> buried possibly in Hayward CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there >>> are alot of great researchers in this part of California and hoping >>> someone may recognize this family. The 1900 census in Hawaii shows a >>> Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 27. Thanks, Herb >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/22e3hKUx5bE/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_F4%2BNHHX3cjrirunTtzCO7e5Ug4S5ceTvCJoR7F5%3Dx1VA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAAB116F-5BDC-4AC8-9E72-D6F0DF804ADB%40verizon.net.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia their gg grandfather was from in the Azores. His name was Manuel Robello, that is the spelling for past 100+ years, not Rebelo. His wife's surname was Henrietta da Silva, may have been Enriquetta. Manuel immigrated to Pahala Hawaii. with his father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello. They arrived in Hawaii possibly 1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe is is Alameda County and died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is buried possibly in Hayward CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there are alot of great researchers in this part of California and hoping someone may recognize this family. The 1900 census in Hawaii shows a Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 27. Thanks, Herb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Testing MyHeritage Transfer
Cheri thanks for that great explanation. It is the best explanation I have ever read regarding the differences in DNA test results, and the diffrent companies who test. Absolutely Outstanding! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Raleza, Antonio Soares
There were some Raelezas living in Nordeste in the 1950s. I remember my mom speaking of this family. More specifically there was an Antonio Raleza living there. Herb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro Ponta Delgada Sao Miguel Families
Wondering if anyone recognize these Sao Miguel families? Looking for any baptism or marriage or obituary info on Ana Da Luz born abt. 1850-1860 or husband Joao Augusto de Medeiros baptism or marriage. She was born in NS da Estrela RG. Her parents Francisco Alves Pereira and Maria da Assumpcao were likely from Sao Sebastiao or Sao Pedro. *1.* *Maria Ermelinda Franco,* born 14 Jan 1886 in Matriz de Ponta Delgada. She was the daughter of *2. Joao Franco* and *3. Ermelinda Augusta Rego*. She married *(1) Joao de Medeiros* 27 Apr 1907 in Matriz de Ponta Delgada. He was born 24 Jun 1881 in Sao Pedro de Ponta Delgada. He was the son of Joao Augusto de Medeiros and Ana da Luz. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1884/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1884_item1/P130.html Francisca Candida and Antonio Jose de Medeiros had the following child: 8. i. Joao Augusto de Medeiros was born abt. 1850 in Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. He married Ana da Luz. She was born in NS da Estrela, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. 17. *Francisco Alves Pereira*. He married* Maria da Assumpcao*. 18. *Maria da Assumpcao*. Maria da Assumpcao and Francisco Alves Pereira had the following child: 9. i. Ana da Luz was born in NS da Estrela, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. She married Joao Augusto de Medeiros. He was born in Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Herb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907
Thank you Maragaret that is very helpful Herb Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Herb, > > If it helps, my grandfather was an agente. After serving in the Army he > enrolled in the police force and became an Agente (Policeman). > >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsche...@gmail.com> wrote: >> You're going to have to trace the mother's line to figure out how he's >> related. 73 cMs could be something like a 3C1R, but it could be a 4th or 5th >> cousin too. Depends on the amount of endogamy shared. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:32 PM, herb <herbandj...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> So now we know Antherio's father was a soldier from Coimbra. Thank you JR. >>> Fascinating!! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:57 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html >>>> >>>> Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de >>>> Ponta Delgada, casou, >>>> >>>> Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de >>>> Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda >>>> Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes da >>>> freguezia da Senhora de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em Coimbra, >>>> onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, domestica, >>>> filha de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, naturaes de >>>> Matriz desta cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi baptizada, e ambos >>>> dezobrigados nesta Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores na rua da Canada desta >>>> freguezia... >>>> >>>> JR >>>> >>>>> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>>> Herb, >>>>> >>>>> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from. >>>>> >>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated. The father apparently >>>>>> was an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is.. The dates >>>>>> match 3 January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad shared 73CM of DNA with >>>>>> this family, which is not insignificant. Dad's grandmother was a Santos >>>>>> but from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other >>>>>> line. The search continues, the adventure never ends. Many thanks to all >>>>>> >>>>>> Herb >>>>>> >>>>>> herba...@verizon.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm >>>>>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, >>>>>> Fall River MA 1907 >>>>>> >>>>>> Here it is from Sao Jose. >>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html >>>>>> Rick >>>>>> >>>>>> From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM >>>>>> To: Azores Genealogy >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, >>>>>> Fall River MA 1907 >>>>>> >>>>>> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :( >>>>>> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907
I will look into this further. My father was born and raised on Rua Santana #28. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:40 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Good to know that. Thanks Margaret. > > Here is what I found Herb. When you get to Antonio Andrade Raposo and Antonia > Emilia marriage, the names I found do not exactly match. I was speculating it > was going to be the Santos Raposo line of Nordeste that I am familiar with. > But as you can see, it is not the same at all. Perhaps I have wrong people. > You may want to check it. I picked this couple based on baptism of Maria > Teresa Raposo: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1860-1864/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1860-1864_item1/P206.html > > Maria, segunda de nome, born- Dec 15- 1861, bap- Dec 21- 1861, filha de > Antonio de Andrade and Anna Izabel nats Matriz de Sao Sebastiao, moradore rua > de Santa Anna desta freg. Pat- Manoel de Andrade and Felicia Rosa; Mat- Joao > Jacinto and Rosa Jacinta > --- > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1841-1854_item1/P143.html > > Matriz de PD, Dec 23- 1850 Antonio de Andrade cc Anna Izabel. Could not find > a match with Antonia Emilia. > > JR > >> On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 10:05:34 AM UTC-4, Mara wrote: >> Herb, >> >> If it helps, my grandfather was an agente. After serving in the Army he >> enrolled in the police force and became an Agente (Policeman). >> >>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> You're going to have to trace the mother's line to figure out how he's >>> related. 73 cMs could be something like a 3C1R, but it could be a 4th or >>> 5th cousin too. Depends on the amount of endogamy shared. >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:32 PM, herb <herba...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> So now we know Antherio's father was a soldier from Coimbra. Thank you JR. >>>> Fascinating!! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:57 PM, JR <jmr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html >>>>> >>>>> Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de >>>>> Ponta Delgada, casou, >>>>> >>>>> Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de >>>>> Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda >>>>> Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes >>>>> da freguezia da Senhora de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em >>>>> Coimbra, onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, >>>>> domestica, filha de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, >>>>> naturaes de Matriz desta cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi >>>>> baptizada, e ambos dezobrigados nesta Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores na >>>>> rua da Canada desta freguezia... >>>>> >>>>> JR >>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>>>> Herb, >>>>>> >>>>>> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated. The father apparently >>>>>>> was an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is.. The dates >>>>>>> match 3 January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad shared 73CM of DNA >>>>>>> with this family, which is not insignificant. Dad's grandmother was a >>>>>>> Santos but from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through >&
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907
So now we know Antherio's father was a soldier from Coimbra. Thank you JR. Fascinating!! Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:57 PM, JR <jmro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P139.html > > Record No 33, page 16, bottom right, Sept 8- 1884, Igreja de Sam Jose de > Ponta Delgada, casou, > > Antonio dos Santos com Maria Tereza Raposo on margin, and Maria Tereza de > Andrade de Raposo in body of text. elle de 32 annos, solteiro, segunda > Sargento d'artilheria, filho de Jose dos Santo e Antonia Rita, naturaes da > freguezia da Senhora de Assumpcao de concleho de Pena Cova , em Coimbra, > onde elle foi baptizado; ella de vinte tres annos, solteira, domestica, filha > de Antonio de Andrade de Raposo, e Antonia Emilia, naturaes de Matriz desta > cidade [Ponta Delgada], onde ella foi baptizada, e ambos dezobrigados nesta > Igreja de Sam Jose, e moradores na rua da Canada desta freguezia... > > JR > >> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 10:39:39 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >> Herb, >> >> Go back and read where Anthero's mom was from. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:25 PM, <herba...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> Thank you so much Rick. Greatly appreciated. The father apparently was >>> an 'agente" from Coimbra Portugal??? whatever that is.. The dates match 3 >>> January 1888 birth date. Somehow my dad shared 73CM of DNA with this >>> family, which is not insignificant. Dad's grandmother was a Santos but >>> from Agua de Pau born 1862, so maybe the match is through some other line. >>> The search continues, the adventure never ends. Many thanks to all >>> >>> Herb >>> >>> herba...@verizon.net >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Richard Francis Pimentel <rickre...@gmail.com> >>> To: azores <azo...@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 9:56 pm >>> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall >>> River MA 1907 >>> >>> Here it is from Sao Jose. >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1885-1889_item1/P246.html >>> Rick >>> >>> From: azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>> Cheri Mello >>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:06 PM >>> To: Azores Genealogy >>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall >>> River MA 1907 >>> >>> That's not Anthero. The dad isn't a Raposo or a Santos either. :( >>> Herb, you need to contact Santo Cristo in Fall River for his marriage, as >>> Joe Mendonça suggested. That 1907 time period is the right time to be >>> telling the priest which freguesia you are from. Cheri >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/sJzB-ds320M/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/sJzB-ds320M/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Anthero R. Santos and Thereza Furtado, Fall River MA 1907
His WW 1 draft card has him born on 3 January 1888 in Ponta Delgada SM. I have made several sweeps through the 20+ paroquias of Ponta Delgada as well as Passports for 1901-1902 and Ellis Island arrivals. In 130 year old priest scribble it's difficult to discern Antonio from Antherio or Anterio. He is listed in ancestry in census records as Anthers Santos or as Antherio Raposo Santos. His marriage record lists Ponta Delgada as place of birth. Tough nut to crack! Of course sometimes it's right there in front of us and we simply don't see it. Herb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel marriage
Is there a brave soul out there willing to take a stab at translating this marriage record from 27 Dec 1730 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1729-1750/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1729-1750_item1/P12.html It could be the marriage of my ancestors Manuel dos Santos and Maria Sequeira Naborges, but very challenging to see padrinhos or parents names, although one parent looks like a Fagundes Herb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873
As best as I have been able to determine Margaret, my exposto Jose Sousa Silva born 1871-1872 in NS Estrela Ribeira Grande, was probably the son of an Antonio Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa. I have not been able to learn who raised him or who the parents of Antonio Sousa Estela were. I have poured over hundreds of records. The answer may be right in front of me but I don't see it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on record Ribeirinha Sao Miguel 1873
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1844-1846/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1844-1846_item1/P143.html Margaret all this talk about Antonio Silva Canario reminds me of the one in the URL above. He was the padrinho to all of my exposto great grandfather's kids. Herb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] New Ethnicity Estimates for Family Tree DNA
Cheri I checked mine. I am now 51% Iberian and 12% British Isles and 8% Western and Central Europe. Also looks like I picked up some Jewish DNA with these new estimates, 4% Sephardic Jew. It will be interesting to see the estimates in 20 years. By then I think we will really know with a high degree of certainty. Like Mary Ann my family lived in Sao Miguel for 500 plus years. I was born there. Not sure these or the previous results are clear and precise but it is all very interesting isn't it? And like you said a lot depends on the control groups. I doubt actual Azoreans were part of the control group. Herb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antonio de Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa, NS da Estrella RG, SM
thank you very much Margaret. On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 12:37:22 PM UTC-4, Herb wrote: > > Recently I acquired the birth record of a great uncle born in Sao Miguel. > He was my grandfather's brother. I was astonished to find their incognito > grandparents listed in the birth record. I have been searching for any > information on their grandparents for over 20 years and all of a sudden I > see them. At first I couldn't believe it, I didn't even realize it at > first. They are listed as Antonio de Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa. I > have been searching marriage records from the time period of 1837 to 1884 > in NS da Estrela Ribeira Grande. Hoping someone has this couple in their > records. One theory is that maybe they married after the birth of my > grandfather and great uncle. I haven't gotten to the Conceicao records yet > or the nearby Sao Pedro records in Ribeira Seca. Thanks. > > Herb > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa, NS da Estrella RG, SM
Thanks Cheri. Yeah persistence pays off. Rick do you have NS da Estrela or is it Conceicao? Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Haplogroup V (mtDNA)
Hi David. My mother is Haplogroup V and I have traced her direct female line to late 1500s in Sao Miguel. Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa, NS da Estrella RG, SM
Recently I acquired the birth record of a great uncle born in Sao Miguel. He was my grandfather's brother. I was astonished to find their incognito grandparents listed in the birth record. I have been searching for any information on their grandparents for over 20 years and all of a sudden I see them. At first I couldn't believe it, I didn't even realize it at first. They are listed as Antonio de Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa. I have been searching marriage records from the time period of 1837 to 1884 in NS da Estrela Ribeira Grande. Hoping someone has this couple in their records. One theory is that maybe they married after the birth of my grandfather and great uncle. I haven't gotten to the Conceicao records yet or the nearby Sao Pedro records in Ribeira Seca. Thanks. Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestors of Manuel dos Santos, Agua de Pau, SM
*Does anyone in the group have this family? Herb* *Ahnentafel Chart for Manuel Dos Santos* *First Generation* 1.* Manuel Dos Santos * was born in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Godfather was Francisco da Mota Junior, saddle maker, single, resident of same village Godmother was Maria da Gloria, single of same village Manuel married *Ricarda do Espirito Santo * daughter of Antonio Jacinto da Costa Ferraz and Barbara Querobina do Espirito Santo on 11 Apr 1836 in Sao Roque, Rosto do Cao, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Ricarda was born on 16 May 1820 in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal. She was christened on 23 May 1820. *Second Generation* 2.* Joao Dos Santos *.Joao married Anna Francisca Botelho on 18 Feb 1812 in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal. Marriage witnesses were Antonio Joaquim, son of Ana Eugenia, widow of Lieutenante Manuel de Medeiros and Antonio Caetano da Costa, all residents of this village 3.* Anna Francisca Botelho * was born in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal. *Third Generation* 4.* Manuel Dos Santos *.Manuel married Ana Jacinta. 5.* Ana Jacinta * was born in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal. 6.* Jose Botelho * was born in Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel, Azores. He married Luzia Inacia da Ponte on 24 Jan 1784 in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Marriage witnesses were Andre Martins Antunes and Lourenco Costa, bothe married men and both residents of this village 7.* Luzia Inacia da Ponte * was born in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal. *Fourth Generation* 10.* unknown *. 12.* Jose Botelho Furtado * was born in Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel, Azores. He married Cecilia Medeiros on 9 Jul 1736 in Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel, Azores. 13.* Cecilia Medeiros * was born in Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. 14.* Estevao da Ponte * was born in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. He married Josefa Pacheco on 17 Nov 1755 in Matriz, Vila Franca, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Witneses at this mrriage were Antonio Gonsalves, Manuel Vidal and many other people who were present 15.* Josefa Pacheco * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. *Fifth Generation* 24.* Francisco Costa Homem * was born in Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. He died before Jul 1730. He married Maria Botelho. 25.* Maria Botelho * was born in Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. She died on 12 Jul 1730. 26.* Manuel Raposo Carvalho * was born in Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel, Azores. He married Isabel Furtado. 27.* Isabel Furtado * was born in Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel, Azores. 28.* Manuel Vieira Cama * was born in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. He married Maria da Ponte. 29.* Maria da Ponte * was born in Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. 30.* Manuel de Matos * was born in Matriz, Vila Franca, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. He died before 1755. He married Francisca De Sousa. 31.* Francisca De Sousa *. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Parents names, on marriage record
The parents of the groom were Belchior Goncalves and Maria Alves and the bride's parents were Matthias Diniz and Francisca Nobre. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading record
I believe the name is Gorra, someone who lives off the land -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Sebatiao Ponta Delgada marriage
I'm trying to help my cousin find his mom's parents. His mom was Ana F. Diniz born in Fall River MA on 28 April 1919 and died on 27 Jun 2011 in Fairhaven MA. Ana's parents were Manuel and Maria Gloria (Ferreira) Diniz. He thinks they were from Sao Sebastiao Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel parish. They were born and married there. The CCA records end at 1911 and its early in the search but I thought I would check and see if anyone had any information on this family. thank you Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage in Maia Sao Miguel 1769
Good morning, from Richmond VA My ancestors, Antonio Pacheco Sousa de Medeiros married Antonia de Pimentel on 11 Jan 1769 in Maia, Sao Miguel. His parents were Manuel Pacheco and Barbara Macedo. Barbara Macedo was from Fenais da Ajuda. Does anyone have these families? Its been a dead end for many years, because the records for Fenais da Ajuda after this period exist in other parishes. thank you in advance and have a great weekendHerb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Beautiful Reunion Story
Laura that's a great story. God works through people and often in mysterious ways. You mentioned your mom is French Canadian. I don't know much about this DNA stuff, only the basics I guess, but my wife is French Canadian and she's had a Family Finder DNA test done. I have done some research on her lines and so has one of her family members. Send me an email if you want me to check anything that might be helpful. Best wishes, Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel Marriage 1668
Thanks John. So Mr. Cobbs makes yet another appearance? Seems he pops up from time to time in various records. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Pedro Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel Marriage 1668
This is the marriage record, the 3rd down on the right side, of my ancestors Manuel de Oliveira and Maria Benevides from 1668. I don't think priests were listing the names of the parents of the bride and groom during this period, but can anyone make out the witnesses names or any other information that might help locate a baptism or the parents of the happy couple? I have some ideas but always good to get insights and input from the group. Manuel Oliveira and Maria de Benevides were my 8th g grandparents and had a daughter named Mariana de Viveiros who married a Manuel Fernandes on 26 May 1695 in Sao Pedro. This line is a direct mothers line from my mom to her mom to her mom and so on. Thanks a lot.Herbhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1658-1717/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1658-1717_item1/P22.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Confession Rolls for Sao Pedro and Sao Roque
Hello, the confession rolls for Sao Pedro and Sao Roque, Sao Miguel don't appear on the CCA site. Are they available anywhere? Short of taking a trip to Sao Miguel can I get them by writing to the churches or to the CCA. Also I'm curious if I wrote to the Bibiloteca Publica and Archive if they would provide me with a copy of a will or records of an estate. Thanks Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baltazar de Magalhães married to Maria Vieira from MAIA
Eliseu I have a Maria Magalahes married to a Manuel Rodrigues Guimaraes in Maia. They had a son named Manuel Rodrigues Franco who married Maria Pimentel on 8 June 1683. I have not been able to take this line back beyond Maria Magalhaes and ManueL Guimaraes Herb On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 12:49:06 PM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: > Hi! > > Does anyone have this couple on their genealogy? They were Maia > “fregueses” around 1600. > > > > Muito Obrigado, > > *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* > > *Azores (S. Miguel, Graciosa, Faial); Mainland (Alentejo)* > > > > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel
I picked up the entire set of Saudades da Terra about 20 years ago at Sol Mar for about one hundred dollars. It's worth checking there and could be less expensive. For many years now I have looked for RR entire set but was only able to buy volume 1 from a rare book dealer in London. The entire set will turn up one day and hopefully at a reasonable cost. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism in 1906
Hello, in this Dec 1906 baptism, left side, can anyone make out the name of the godmother, Maria ?? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1906-1911/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1906-1911_item1/P57.htmlThank you,Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 3 topics
Margaret and JR thank you so much for your help Herb Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 1:23 AM, azores@googlegroups.com wrote: azores@googlegroups.com Google Groups Topic digest View all topics Fenais da Ajuda baptism - 4 Updates Does anyone have this Francisco de Medeiros? - 2 Updates filha familias - 1 Update Fenais da Ajuda baptism Herb and Judi Silva herbandj...@verizon.net: May 30 08:05AM -0500 I estimate that one of my ancestors was born in Fenais da Ajuda circa 1710, a Barbara Macedo who later on married Manuel Pacheco who was probably from Lomba da Maia. The Fenais da Ajuda records only go back to 1713 ( I believe at that time it was called Fenais da Vera Cruz) and I have not been able to find her through 1713. Where would those baptism records be kept? I am thinking NS da Estrela, Ribeira Grande or possibly Bom Jesus in Rabo de Peixe. Any suggestions where I might be able to find this Barbara Macedo? Herb JR jmro...@gmail.com: May 30 08:35AM -0700 No, if they are from Fenais da Vera Cruz and you can't find them, they are lost or missing or blanked or page torn, etc. Macedo is not common to RG, Estrela, but there are some in Rabo de Peixe and elsewhere. When and where did Manuel Pacheco and Barbara Macedo marry? JR On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 9:05:19 AM UTC-4, Herb wrote: herb herbandj...@verizon.net: May 30 04:21PM -0400 I don't know where they married JR but their son Manuel Pacheco Medeiros married Antonia Pimentel in Maia on 11 Jan 1769. Herb Sent from my iPhone Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com: May 30 05:56PM -0400 Herb, I searched the marriage record 11 Jan 1769. Did you mean to write Antonio Pacheco? It says he's a widower. When I looked up his first marriage with Maria de Sousa 26 Nov 1753 in Maia (1742-1762-0079) it does name Manuel Pacheco x Barbara Macedo as his parents. His name however shows as Antonio de Sousa Pacheco. In any case, what I'm trying to say is that based on his first marriage timeline the parents records are available in Fenais da Ajuda as they start in 1683 and he first married in 1753... Margaret -- Margaret M Vicente Back to top Does anyone have this Francisco de Medeiros? Neuza Medeiros medeirosne...@gmail.com: May 30 10:08AM -0700 Olá Pat Sylvia! Tenho alguns dados anteriores de MANUEL DE MEDEIROS E MARIA MELLO. Este casal está em minha ascendência indireta. Pretendo publicar aqui neste grupo assim que tiver mais dados desta linha dos MEDEIROS. Da minha linha direta, filho deste casal FRANCISCO DE MEDEIROS E MARIA JÁCOME, é SILVESTRE DE MEDEIROS, irmão de MANOEL DE MEDEIROS, casado com MARIA DE MELLO. *FILHOS DE FRANCISCO DE MEDEIROS E MARIA JÁCOME:* *. MANOEL DE MEDEIROS* *Nascimento:* 01/12/1731 - do lugar deMaia *(SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1731-1743_0023)* *Casamento:* 25/01/1752, com *MARIA DE MELLO*, natural de Maia *(SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_0061) * *Morte:* *??* *MARIA DE MELLO* *Nascimento:* *??* *Morte **??* *PAIS DE MARIA DE MELLO:* *JOAN VIEIRA* e de *MARIA DE MELLO* *FILHOS DE MANOEL DE MEDEIROS E MARIA DE MELLO*: .*MANOEL DE MEDEIROS* *Nascimento**: **?* *Casamento**: 12/07/1781, com ANA DA CONCEIÇÃO * *(SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1777-1797_044)* *Morte**: **?* Em quarta-feira, 29 de abril de 2015 13:41:19 UTC-3, Pat Sylvia escreveu: JR jmro...@gmail.com: May 30 02:26PM -0700 I will get back to you later, Have to go now. Here is marriage: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1705-1742/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1705-1742_item1/P176.html On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 3:27:00 PM UTC-4, Neuza Medeiros wrote: Back to top filha familias Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com: May 30 07:35AM FILHA/O FAMÍLIAS means she was under 25 years of age (living with his family). eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Cheri Mello Enviada: sábado, 30 de Maio de 2015 00:20 Para: Azores Genealogy Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] filha familias Hi Bill, There's no link for the record. If I had to guess, she was the daughter of the family that gave the priest a realy good bottle of wine! All joking aside, it usually says son/daughter of the family of ___. Sounds like the priest left it out. Cheri On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com mailto:bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: This record (top left that started on the previous page) has for madrinha: Dona Maria Angelina, solteira, filha familias, moradora na Vila das Velas What is meant by filha familias? daughter of what family? Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fenais da Ajuda baptism
I don't know where they married JR but their son Manuel Pacheco Medeiros married Antonia Pimentel in Maia on 11 Jan 1769. Herb Sent from my iPhone On May 30, 2015, at 11:35 AM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: No, if they are from Fenais da Vera Cruz and you can't find them, they are lost or missing or blanked or page torn, etc. Macedo is not common to RG, Estrela, but there are some in Rabo de Peixe and elsewhere. When and where did Manuel Pacheco and Barbara Macedo marry? JR On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 9:05:19 AM UTC-4, Herb wrote: I estimate that one of my ancestors was born in Fenais da Ajuda circa 1710, a Barbara Macedo who later on married Manuel Pacheco who was probably from Lomba da Maia. The Fenais da Ajuda records only go back to 1713 ( I believe at that time it was called Fenais da Vera Cruz) and I have not been able to find her through 1713. Where would those baptism records be kept? I am thinking NS da Estrela, Ribeira Grande or possibly Bom Jesus in Rabo de Peixe. Any suggestions where I might be able to find this Barbara Macedo? Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Fenais da Ajuda baptism
I estimate that one of my ancestors was born in Fenais da Ajuda circa 1710, a Barbara Macedo who later on married Manuel Pacheco who was probably fromLomba da Maia. The Fenais da Ajuda records only go back to 1713 ( I believe at that time it wascalled Fenais da Vera Cruz)and I have not been able to find her through 1713. Where would those baptism records be kept? I am thinking NS da Estrela, Ribeira Grande or possibly Bom Jesus in Rabo de Peixe. Any suggestions where I might be able to find this Barbara Macedo?Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Boaventura Record (1900)
This isthe birth (record right side),of Maria Isabel Ventura daughter of Manuel Inacio Ventura (Boaventura) and Nicolina da Gloria. Cananyonemake out what it says in the margin? Were the names Ventura and( Boa) Ventura sort of interchangeable in those days?http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1900-1911_item1/P28.htmlthanksHerb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Boaventura Record (1900)
Thank you Manuel for your feedback. Greatly appreciated. The name I was hoping for was Cordeiro. Herb Sent from my iPhone On Apr 13, 2015, at 8:52 PM, manueljoselj...@gmail.com wrote: Herb, First entry is marriage of Maria to José Cordeiro Second entry is the recording of the death of José in 1954 it looks like On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 1:56:35 PM UTC-4, Herb wrote: This is the birth (record right side), of Maria Isabel Ventura daughter of Manuel Inacio Ventura (Boaventura) and Nicolina da Gloria. Can anyone make out what it says in the margin? Were the names Ventura and( Boa) Ventura sort of interchangeable in those days? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1900-1911_item1/P28.html thanks Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Venturas of Sao Pedro/Sao Roque Sao Miguel
Hello, other than the 2Joao Venturas in this group I don't think I have seenvery many familiesmentioned in this this group with the Ventura name. I'm hoping someone will recognize this family.I've been checking CCA records around the turn of the last century, 1900-1911. Trying to find Manuel Inacio Ventura and Nicolina da Gloria. My dad's name was Nicolau Ventura Sousa Silva. It's kind of complicated, because my father's grandfather was adopted and took the Ventura name when he became of age. Thanks, Herbchild'sname --Maria da Gloria de Sousa Palheiroborn on 27 Oct 1919-freguesia de Sao Pedro Ponta Delgada Maria'sFather -Jose Palheiro borninSao Pedro Maria's mother--Maria Isabel Ventura born inSao Roque paternal grandparents --Jose de Sousa Palheiro e --Filomena Augusta maternal grandparents --Manuel Inacio Ventura e Nicolina da Gloria -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Genetic Distance
Can anyone explain what is a genetic distance of zero as it relates to DNA family Finder test? Thanks, Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Genetic Distance
I forgot to mention this was a result on a YDNA 67 test -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] National Geo's Articles-Azores/Madeira/Cape Verde/Macao
The 1976 Nat Geo magazine with the Azores nine islands in search of a future article. If my wife didn't throw it out I have a copy of it up in my attic. Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maui Portugese Sausage
Gaspar chourico is ok and I have tried various kinds, but dollar for dollar pound for pound the best chourico in the country is Mellos Chourico in Fall River. I order it online and they deliver. If I visit Fall River I always stop by Amarals market and pick up a few pounds and bring it to Virginia and freeze it. Not the healthiest food but once in awhile, it does my heart good to have a little treat. It's delicious. www.melloschourico.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa Silva marriage
Thank you Denise -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Sousa Silva marriage
The record on the left. Can anyone confirm if itis the marriage of Manuel da Sylva son of Manuel daSylvaand his wife Maria Carvalha married 10 Jan 1762 in Sao Jose, Sao Miguel. And the bride is Maria da Conceicao daughter of Jose Ferreyra and Maria Sousa? Thank you. Herbhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1745-1764/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1745-1764_item1/P207.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA has posted passports
CCA has posted passports for Ponta Delgada/Horta for period 1836-1939 Herb Sent from my iPhone -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Dec 1668 Marriage in Sao Pedro Ponta Delgada
Happy New Yearcan anyone make out the names of the parents in this record, 3 record down on the right side. The groom looks like Manuel Oliveira and the bride Maria Benevides. but difficult to find parents names. I'm not even certain their names are even listed at all.http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1658-1717/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1658-1717_item1/P22.htmlHerb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA Records
FYI to the GroupI wrote to CCA to let them know that the marriages for 1739-1751 were not posted and also to let them know that the Ribeira Seca baptism records for 1767-1801 are missing. Instead they posted obits for that period where the baptisms should be.Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Records
It's the Sao Sebastiao 1739-1751 marriages that weren't postedHerbOn 12/20/14, Herb and Judi Silvaherbandjudi@verizon.net wrote:FYI to the GroupI wrote to CCA to let them know that the marriages for 1739-1751 were not posted and also to let them know that the Ribeira Seca baptism records for 1767-1801 are missing. Instead they posted obits for that period where the baptisms should be.Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] 1739-1751 Sao Sebastiao Marriages
Does anyone know if the Sao Sebastiao Ponta Delgada marriages for the period 1739-1751 will be posted on CCA site? Are they lost forever? I remember seeing themon LDS films .Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Marriage
I'm trying to sort through thismarriage record of Joao do Rego, possibly it's my Joao do Rego Alvesmarried to Maria da Assuncao 17 Sep 1774, Ribeira Seca. Parents ofbride were Joao da Costa Pereira and looks like Rosa Bothelho??? I'm thinking it is Botelho but difficult to make this one out. .I'm trying to establish a connection with this line for my gg father born 1872 in Ribeira Grande. Increasingly it is starting to become apparent that he was eventually raised by a Rego Alves family about 100 years later. I'm just trying to put all thefamilies together, which is never easy. This Rego Alves line is everywhere in my father'sancestryand eventually linksup tomy father'sgrandmother, whomhis grandfather married in Matriz Ribeira Grandeon 1 Feb 1892. So is it Botelho?If it is, then these Botelhos go back to Vila doPorto, Santa Maria and it will be a challenge to find them for sure.http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1756-1797/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1756-1797_item1/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1756-1797_JPG/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1756-1797_0105.jpgThanks, Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Marriage
Thanks Margaret -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Little known history
Hi Dano I served in the USAF for almost 22 years. A colleague who worked in the American Embassy in Lisbon provided this information but unfortunately does not have the names of casualties. Have you tried the more useful sources such as ancestry.com, genealogy.com? I have an address for a military records repository in St Louis. I will locate the address for you and post it here later on today. Herb Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: Herb, Do you have any resource material available that identifies those 600 Portuguese/Azoreans that were commissioned to serve? Or, those who may have become casualties? The reason I ask is that there is an individual whose name appears as a casualty of the December 7th attack that I cannot get any information on. I've tried the Pearl Harbor website, and newspaper obits to no avail. On Monday, December 8, 2014 9:52:26 PM UTC-5, Herb wrote: 73 years ago... December 7, 1941 after the Attack on Pearl Harbor, 47 Portuguese Tuna boats were converted into war ships and 600 Portuguese/Azoreans in San Diego and Hawaii were commissioned to serve the United States. Azorean Fishermen became American warriors.Today we pay Tribute to their courage and contribution to this country! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/VxWZZSLtVp8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Little known history
Dano there is a web site for the military records www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/ If you need to write to them the address is National Personnel Records Center 1 Archives Drive, St Louis MO 63138 Good luck Herb Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: Herb, Do you have any resource material available that identifies those 600 Portuguese/Azoreans that were commissioned to serve? Or, those who may have become casualties? The reason I ask is that there is an individual whose name appears as a casualty of the December 7th attack that I cannot get any information on. I've tried the Pearl Harbor website, and newspaper obits to no avail. On Monday, December 8, 2014 9:52:26 PM UTC-5, Herb wrote: 73 years ago... December 7, 1941 after the Attack on Pearl Harbor, 47 Portuguese Tuna boats were converted into war ships and 600 Portuguese/Azoreans in San Diego and Hawaii were commissioned to serve the United States. Azorean Fishermen became American warriors.Today we pay Tribute to their courage and contribution to this country! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/VxWZZSLtVp8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Little known history
73 years ago... December 7, 1941 after the Attack on Pearl Harbor, 47 Portuguese Tuna boats were converted into war ships and 600 Portuguese/Azoreans in San Diego and Hawaii were commissioned to serve the United States. Azorean Fishermen became American warriors.Today we pay Tribute to their courage and contribution to this country! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Moniz Surname 1940s Fall River
Laura I went to high school in Fall River and I remember a Carl Moniz and Lynn Moniz. A lot of my family is still in that area, and one of my brothers stays in contact with Carl. I will check with them in case they knew a Bobby Moniz. Good luck with your search Herb On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 3:09:13 PM UTC-5, Laura Flanagan wrote: My name is Laura and I was adopted at birth in 1969. I have been attempting to identify my biological father and trace my paternal line. I have taken the Ancestry.com dna test and uploaded my dna profile to Family Tree DNA, as well as GEDMatch. My biological mother was of Irish, German, English and Scottish decent, so I am confident that matches of Portuguese decent come from my paternal line. My DNA matches indicate that my paternal ancestors were from the Island of Sao Miguel, Acores. The only information that I have regarding my father is that his went by the name Bobby Moniz. He was approximately 23 years old in 1968 and his family was from the Fall River/Seekonk area. He met my biological mother near her father's home in Riverside (East Providence), Rhode Island, where they briefly dated. He was never told of her pregnancy. She described him as a short/stocky man with dark, kinky curly hair. She remembers he drove a blue Ford Farlane. They spent time together at Sabin Point Park in Riverside, Rhode Island. I would be interested in any Moniz surname lines with ancestors from Sao Miguel who may have immigrated and/or lived in the Fall River/Seekonk/East Providence area between 1940 and 1970. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA is down
The CCA registos server is down this morning. Cannot access the site. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 2 topics
RickI have seen this name Senra ( probably Senyra) in other parts of the island, while searching records. I recall seeing a Belchior Affonso Senra married in Nordeste around late 1630's. HerbOn 12/01/14, azores@googlegroups.com wrote:azores@googlegroups.com Google Groups Topic digest View all topics Help with name Bretanha marriage - 5 Updates DNA Mystery Rewards: Round 1 of codes expires tonight (Sun, Nov. 30th) 11:59 pm CST - 2 Updates Help with name Bretanha marriage Richard Francis Pimentel rickredleg21@gmail.com: Nov 30 06:50PM -0500 I have this one done except for the last name of the groom and his Father. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-C-1703-1779_item1/P41.html The lower leftrecord. Thanks.RickRichard Francis PimentelEpping, NHResearching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and PontaDelgada, Sao Miguel, AcoresCheri Mello gfscherim@gmail.com: Nov 30 03:59PM -0800 Rick,Why are you in the group spam filter? Ugh, computers make me wondersometimes!Groom: Manuel da Senyra son of Manuel da Senyra.Cheri MelloListowner, Azores-GenResearching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,AchadaGeorge Pacheco bretanha1954@gmail.com: Nov 30 07:05PM -0500 Senra-- www.georgepacheco.com"Ângela Loura" angelaloura@gmail.com: Dec 01 12:13AM It looks like Senrra."Richard Francis Pimentel" Rfrancispimentel@comcast.net: Nov 30 07:26PM -0500 Thanks Cheri, That is one I have never seen before. Guill did not have it listed.RickRichard Francis PimentelEpping, NHFrom: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri MelloSent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 7:00 PMTo: Azores GenealogySubject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name Bretanha marriageRick,Why are you in the group spam filter? Ugh, computers make me wonder sometimes!Groom: Manuel da Senyra son of Manuel da Senyra.Cheri MelloListowner, Azores-GenResearching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.Back to top DNA Mystery Rewards: Round 1 of codes expires tonight (Sun, Nov. 30th) 11:59 pm CST Cheri Mello gfscherim@gmail.com: Nov 30 08:54AM -0800 Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale is going strong. It will end on Wed., Dec.31st at 11:59 pm CST.The additional coupon codes, or Mystery Rewards, expire tonight (Sun., Nov.30th) at 11:59 pm CST.Existing customers can log into their page and click on the Mystery Rewardsbox to see their code. If it is something you will not use, "gift" it toone of the DNA Admins and we will distribute it to someone who can use it.I have lots of $5 and $10 off coupon codes. Those are the most common. Ihave one $100 the Big Y test (this is an advanced SNP test which is moreanthropological in nature. You must have ordered a Y-DNA test in the pastto order this product).I have someone wanting $25 off of a Y-DNA test. If you have one of those,please pass it on to me so I can get it to this person.Also, if you get the rare $49 off of Family Finder and you don't want touse it, definitely gift that to us admins. We have a couple of specialcases that we want to apply that coupon to.Round 2 of Mystery Rewards will begin next week!Cheri MelloFTDNA Admin (volunteer)Cheri Mello gfscherim@gmail.com: Nov 30 08:56AM -0800 P.S. The coupon codes of $5 or $10 off of ANY product will work on the $39transfer from Ancestry.com or 23andMe. I have lots of $10 off if anyone istransferring from one of the other companies.Back to top You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] No longer able to view records on CCA
Is anyone having problems viewing the records on the CCA site? I can longer see them, they don't show on the screen anymore. My browser just spins round and round but no more records. Its ironic, cause, I just wrote to them a few days ago, to thank them for all the work they did in getting them all uploaded and now I cant get them. LOL. Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] No longer able to view records on CCA
I'm also using Explorer and been having problems for several days. At first it would take an hour or two to download a single image but now it won't download anything. I cleared out the cache and rebooted numerous times. I don't have problems with any other sites. On Friday, November 21, 2014 11:17:39 PM UTC-5, rcapodc wrote: Browsing thru Internet Explorer and it's fine. Rosemarie Rosemarie rca...@gmail.com javascript: Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia Sicily On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Lee shor...@suddenlink.net javascript: wrote: I've been browsing all evening on my IPad with no problems. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 20 updates in 5 topics
Yeah it's amazing that we can see these records from the comfort of our homes even from our Iphones etc. I spent so many nights and weekends at LDS centers and the volunteers were awesome. They would dim the lights and turn them up if needed to allow a better view. I'm grateful for the work that when into this effort and I have written to express my gratitude. Thank you CCA and LDS volunteers. Herb On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:27 AM, azores@googlegroups.com wrote: azores@googlegroups.com Google Groups Topic digest View all topics What's Next to upload for the CCA? - 1 Update CCA concludes the Azores parish records project (aka Ribeirinha records are now online) - 10 Updates Joseph Cardoza (Cardozo) Garcia b.Fayal 22 Jul 1859 - 5 Updates Manuel Romeiro Velho - 3 Updates How common is the name Remigio? - 1 Update What's Next to upload for the CCA? Kawika322 oldschoo...@gmail.com: Nov 17 08:01PM -0800 I would also like to thank the CCA for getting all the Azores parishes online. It was a big task and definitely worth it. Does anyone know what might be next on the agenda for the CCA to upload? From what I remember it may be the passportes for Angra or Horta but I'm not sure. David Back to top CCA concludes the Azores parish records project (aka Ribeirinha records are now online) João Ventura j...@venturas.org: Nov 17 01:27PM -0800 Hello, everyone The parish records for Ribeirinha (Ribeira Grande - São Miguel) are now online. A big applause to the CCA archivists and the LDS volunteers for the work they did in scanning and making available all the parish records for the Azores. It's a project that when I started paying attention was already halfway done, but that was a monumental task by everyone involved. João C. Ventura http://tombo.pt/en Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com: Nov 17 03:27PM -0800 Maybe we should email the CCA and thank them. They will read English or Portuguese. drac@azores.gov.pt Cheri Paul pagome...@comcast.net: Nov 17 03:48PM -0800 Hopefully the LDS people will make their way to Madeira and get those records online. Paul G. Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com: Nov 17 03:53PM -0800 Good idea, Cheri. I have done so and hope that others will write and thank them for making these records available to us all in the comfort of our own homes! When I think of the hours that I spent looking at the microfilm for years and can now read them from my own home computer, I am amazed! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia Sicily Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com: Nov 17 04:44PM -0800 I have also sent a thank you to CCA Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net: Nov 17 04:08PM -0800 I'm with you Rosemarie! I love being able to search at home!! I will send them a note for sure!;) Edna dave-e...@comcast.net Elizabeth Migliori lizmi...@gmail.com: Nov 17 05:40PM -0800 Muito Obrigado! (did I spell it right?) Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com: Nov 17 06:49PM -0800 I am with you Paul, I need Madeira too. On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Elizabeth Migliori lizmi...@gmail.com wrote: Cheryl Barnhurst carab...@aol.com: Nov 17 07:10PM -0800 I sent a thank you to them. It is such a wonderful gift to those of us researching the Azores. I am so very thankful! Sherry Barnhurst Sent from my iPad Deb McCabe looking4root...@yahoo.com: Nov 18 03:22AM Consider it done! Deb McCabe When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:10 PM, 'Cheryl Barnhurst' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: I sent a thank you to them. It is such a wonderful gift to those of us researching the Azores. I am so very thankful! Sherry Barnhurst Sent from my iPad On Nov 17, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com wrote: Good idea, Cheri. I have done so and hope that others will write and thank them for making these records available to us all in the comfort of our own homes! When I think of the hours that I spent looking at the microfilm for years and can now read them from my own home computer, I am amazed! Rosemarie rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia Sicily On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we should email the CCA and thank them. They will read English or portuguese.drac@azores.gov.ptCheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Twin girls
Thanks Margaret and thanks to others who posted on this. I think this closes the mystery on my Maria Mello and my Gamboa/Grou ancestors. They were from Ponta Garca through Nordestinho I posted on this a few days ago and JR and Richard and Angela responded. Couldn't have done it without their insights and JRs encouragement and tenacity to keep searching. It's an unusual name Grou isn't it?. I'm not sure I have ever seen it. I wonder if it's Portuguese in origin? Herb On Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:45:03 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote: Herb, They were born 5 min apart on the 4th day February 1862 The margin note: Victoria passed away in this Parish yesterday. I can't make out the exact date but the year was 1938. Margaret Vicente On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Herb and Judi Silva herba...@verizon.net javascript: wrote: Starting on bottom left http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt /biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1860-1867/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1860-1867_item1/P79. html perhaps someone can make out what it says in the margin. These were twin girls but apparently born days apart. Did one of them die? This is fascinating to me as twins run in my family on mom's side. This is the line I was asking about a few days ago involving my ancestor Francisco Raposo Gamboa thanks Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age of bride
Yes it is a very complex line because of naming customs and because of cousin marriages. This is the first time I have ever seen the name Grou however. During my research of other villages I have only come across the name Gambia one other time and I can't remember the villagew -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Twin girls
Starting on bottom lefthttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1860-1867/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1860-1867_item1/P79.htmlperhaps someone can make out what it says in the margin. These were twin girls but apparently born days apart. Did one of them die? This is fascinating to me as twins run in my family on mom's side. This is the line I was asking about a few days ago involving my ancestor Francisco Raposo GamboathanksHerb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Age of bride
This record the left side marriage. Was the bride 18 and groom 46? I've been trying for several years to locate the brides moms parents. The brides mother was Maria Mello. Maybe I'm searching the wrong date but it looks to me like the bride Maria de Jesus was 18 in 1878. So she would have been born on or about 1860. Maybe someone with Mello ancestors from Nordeste can shed some light on this. Herb http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1876-1884/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1876-1884_item1/P19.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Age of bride
Thanks for your responses. Yeah that's what makes this one a bit of a mystery for me. I have never found the marriage of Francisco Raposo Gamboa and Maria Mello. I'm sure it's on the CCA site somewhere. I have never been able to find it, not through the LDS films or now on CCA. But hey that's what makes these searches so much fun right. Have a great day. Herb in Virginia -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record from 1754
record of my Arruda ancestor, a direct line to my mother. Right side To me this looks like a wedding on 9 April 1754 in Matriz of Nordeste which is Sao Jorge. the groom was Manuel Arruda and the bride was Maria Cabral Araujo The father of the groom might have been either Manuel or Francisco Arruda and the mother was Barbara da Silveira *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1744-1755/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1744-1755_item1/P74.html* http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1744-1755/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1744-1755_item1/P74.html thanks in advance for any help. Herb *Send Email* javascript:; *Add to Contacts* javascript:; *Edit Contact* javascript:; *Send SMS/MMS* javascript:; *Add to Contacts* javascript:; *Edit Contact* javascript:; -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record from 1754
Thanks again Angela. Didn't those priests know that people would be reading the CCA records 300 years later? Lol Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Ângela Loura angelalo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Herb, After reading what Hermano wrote, my second reading on the record also points to Barbara de Oliveira for the bride's mother! 2014-11-04 23:42 GMT+00:00 Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com: Herb This what I see: 9 (May or June) 1754, the previous record was for 22 April and the following one was for July Manuel de Arruda son of Manuel de Atruda and Maria da Costa (deceased and buried in S. Jorge, Nordeste) with Maria Cabral daughter of Antonio Cabral de Araujo and Barbara de Oliveira all of S. Jorge, Nordeste. Hermano Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:48:39 -0800 From: herbandj...@verizon.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record from 1754 record of my Arruda ancestor, a direct line to my mother. Right side To me this looks like a wedding on 9 April 1754 in Matriz of Nordeste which is Sao Jorge. the groom was Manuel Arruda and the bride was Maria Cabral Araujo The father of the groom might have been either Manuel or Francisco Arruda and the mother was Barbara da Silveira http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1744-1755/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1744-1755_item1/P74.html thanks in advance for any help. Herb Send Email Add to Contacts Edit Contact Send SMS/MMS Add to Contacts Edit Contact -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/812uw44TPu8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for baptism date
Hello Can anyone make out the groom ( Antonio Arruda) and bride's ( Maria Pimentel) baptism dates in this record. It looks like maybe it was sometime in June 1760? Couldn't be 1770 could it?. Looks like it was written as cecenta. Hard to make out the day in June though. Thanks..Herb http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1783-1815/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1783-1815_item1/P50.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for baptism date
Thank you all. Hermano yes I have seen the baptism date of the bride and groom on many occasions. Thanks again, Herb Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote: Herb Here is what I see regarding your question: 27 May 1790 Antonio Cabral son of Manuel de Arruda (darruda) and Maria Cabral with Maria de Pimentel daughter of Manuel Carreiro (deceased) and Antonia de Pimentel . Paraphrasing all are from S. Jorge Nordeste. I have never seem batismal dates in a wedding record before, but here it is: Antonio was baptised on 1 june 1760 and Maria was babtised on 3 February 1760. Hope that helps. Hermano Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 16:40:29 -0800 From: herbandj...@verizon.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for baptism date Hello Can anyone make out the groom ( Antonio Arruda) and bride's ( Maria Pimentel) baptism dates in this record. It looks like maybe it was sometime in June 1760? Couldn't be 1770 could it?. Looks like it was written as cecenta. Hard to make out the day in June though. Thanks..Herb http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1783-1815/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1783-1815_item1/P50.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/lTHoFVsAWqU/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Error on CCA site
Does anyone know how to get wordto the CCA site people to let them know there is amistake on the site. It says Sao Carlos casamentos instead of Sao Jorge for marriages between 1906-1911São Carlos, Casamentos 1906-191119060001 0002 0003 0004 0005 0006 0007 19070001 0002 0003 0004 0005 0006 19080001 0002 0003 0004 0005 0006 0007 19090001 0002 0003 0004 0005 0006 0007 0008 0009 1911 0002 0003 0004 0005 0006 0007 19110001 0002 0003 0004 0001t08-G-W0140 Ficha BibliográficaContribuidor:Região Autónoma Açores, Presidência Governo, Direcção Regional CulturaTítulo: Registos ParoquiaisAssunto:GenealogiaDescrição:CasamentosIdentificador:SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-C-1906-1911Fonte:BPAR - Ponta DelgadaData:1906Cobertura temporal:1906-1911 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria baptism
I think I found the record. Maybe someone could validate this. Left side, married on 30 Oct 1757 Jose Raposo the groom, son of Francisco Lopes and wife Catarina de Deus or da Luz, and the bride Antonia Margarida daughter of Antonio Andrade and Engracia de Alpoim all of the parish of NS da Asssuncao. If it is Alpoim I have never seen that name. I have see Paim or Payim in some records, so I'm not sure, but it sure looks like Alpoim to me. It doesn't look like the priest recorded the bride and groom's ages. Herbhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1755-1777/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1755-1777_item1/P12.htmlOn 10/24/14, pico@dholmes.com wrote:Herb,I would start with the assumption she could be as young as 15. While searching for her, also look for any of her siblings. You are bound to find some.Boa sorte.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria baptismFrom: Herb and Judi Silva herbandjudi@verizon.netDate: Fri, October 24, 2014 1:57 pmTo: azores@googlegroups.comIfI'm reading thiscorrectly, the recordon the right, my Francisco Raposo married Umbellina Franciscaon 11 July 1802 in Sao Jose, and he was baptized in NS da Assuncao inisland of Santa Maria. I will need to do some double and triple checking, but this is likely my first ancestor born outside Sao Miguel with the exception of some from Terceira. Anyway,this means that he was likely born in 1770 or late 1769, whichwould be more or less(mais ou menos)32 years from 1802. So I checked every record in Matriz da NS da Assuncao from 1765 to 1774 3 timesand came up empty. Should I check other villages in the only concelho in that island. Just wondering if maybe there was some event there involving the parishesand baptisms were actually recorded somewhere else?Thanks, Herbhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805_item1/P108.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/XosgNEQ8z40/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria baptism
Thanks Joe, Rick and Loura. If it is Baptista then it's back to the drawing board for me. Herb Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Ângela Loura angelalo...@gmail.com wrote: The groom's name is José Baptista. The bride's mother is Engracia Alpoim, indeed. 2014-10-25 17:35 GMT+01:00 Herb and Judi Silva herbandj...@verizon.net: I think I found the record. Maybe someone could validate this. Left side, married on 30 Oct 1757 Jose Raposo the groom, son of Francisco Lopes and wife Catarina de Deus or da Luz, and the bride Antonia Margarida daughter of Antonio Andrade and Engracia de Alpoim all of the parish of NS da Asssuncao. If it is Alpoim I have never seen that name. I have see Paim or Payim in some records, so I'm not sure, but it sure looks like Alpoim to me. It doesn't look like the priest recorded the bride and groom's ages. Herb http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1755-1777/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-C-1755-1777_item1/P12.html On 10/24/14, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Herb, I would start with the assumption she could be as young as 15. While searching for her, also look for any of her siblings. You are bound to find some. Boa sorte. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria baptism From: Herb and Judi Silva herbandj...@verizon.net Date: Fri, October 24, 2014 1:57 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com If I'm reading this correctly, the record on the right, my Francisco Raposo married Umbellina Francisca on 11 July 1802 in Sao Jose, and he was baptized in NS da Assuncao in island of Santa Maria. I will need to do some double and triple checking, but this is likely my first ancestor born outside Sao Miguel with the exception of some from Terceira. Anyway, this means that he was likely born in 1770 or late 1769, which would be more or less (mais ou menos) 32 years from 1802. So I checked every record in Matriz da NS da Assuncao from 1765 to 1774 3 times and came up empty. Should I check other villages in the only concelho in that island. Just wondering if maybe there was some event there involving the parishes and baptisms were actually recorded somewhere else? Thanks, Herb http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805_item1/P108.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/XosgNEQ8z40/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/XosgNEQ8z40/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria baptism
IfI'm reading thiscorrectly, the recordon the right, my Francisco Raposo married Umbellina Franciscaon 11 July 1802 in Sao Jose, and he was baptized in NS da Assuncao inisland of Santa Maria. I will need to do some double and triple checking, but this is likely my first ancestor born outside Sao Miguel with the exception of some from Terceira. Anyway,this means that he was likely born in 1770 or late 1769, whichwould be more or less(mais ou menos)32 years from 1802. So I checked every record in Matriz da NS da Assuncao from 1765 to 1774 3 timesand came up empty. Should I check other villages in the only concelho in that island. Just wondering if maybe there was some event there involving the parishesand baptisms were actually recorded somewhere else?Thanks, Herbhttp://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805_item1/P108.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria baptism
Thanks Rick I had some input from others too but I picked up the Santa Maria connection early on. I will have to check the marriages Herb On Friday, October 24, 2014 6:21:22 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: *Good job on the translation.* *Yes he was baptized in NS da Assuncao in Santa Maria. That is where you should make a careful search. To find his baptism I first would start at 11 Jul 1770 and search back from there If you go any more than two years back then I would start searching forward from 11 Jul 1770. You may also want to search for his parents’ marriage by starting at 1770 and go back in this case you may have to go several years, perhaps as much as 20 or 25.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Herb and Judi Silva *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 4:58 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria baptism If I'm reading this correctly, the record on the right, my Francisco Raposo married Umbellina Francisca on 11 July 1802 in Sao Jose, and he was baptized in NS da Assuncao in island of Santa Maria. I will need to do some double and triple checking, but this is likely my first ancestor born outside Sao Miguel with the exception of some from Terceira. Anyway, this means that he was likely born in 1770 or late 1769, which would be more or less (mais ou menos) 32 years from 1802. So I checked every record in Matriz da NS da Assuncao from 1765 to 1774 3 times and came up empty. Should I check other villages in the only concelho in that island. Just wondering if maybe there was some event there involving the parishes and baptisms were actually recorded somewhere else? Thanks, Herb http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt /biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805_item1/P108. html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Possible island of Santa Maria Connection
Is anyone able to confirm, (right side record) that the parents of the groom were from Nordeste for the father and island of Santa Maria for the mother? Or are my eyes playing tricks on me? Thank you Herb http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805_item1/P108.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Possible island of Santa Maria Connection
Thank you Hermano. I think this is a first for me, an ancestor from Santa Maria. I have some from Terceira Thanks Herb Sent from my iPhone On Oct 22, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote: The reference is to the groom who was batised in the Matriz of Nossa Senhora da Assuncao, Ilha de Santa Maria. Hermano Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:29:12 -0700 From: herbandj...@verizon.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Possible island of Santa Maria Connection Is anyone able to confirm, (right side record) that the parents of the groom were from Nordeste for the father and island of Santa Maria for the mother? Or are my eyes playing tricks on me? Thank you Herb http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1796-1805_item1/P108.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/NXgsK1mkgJo/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ja Defunto
Thank you all for your help. Have a great weekendHerbOn 10/17/14, Rosemarie Capodiccircapodc@gmail.com wrote:Yes Herb, in the later records of Norte Grande, Sao Jorge, the Priest does NOT indicate a parent's death at all. Very frustrating when you are trying to pin down the right couple or when the parent has passed! Rosemarie rcapodc@gmail.comResearching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, and Pico, Azores,Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia SicilyOn Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Herb herbandjudi@verizon.net wrote:Has anyone come across a situation where a parent of the groom or bride in a marriage record is not listed as being dead " defunto" but you know for a fact that the parent was already dead? Herb-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/9AeNgGhn378/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage
Hi Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page. As best as I an make out they were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out. The last name appears to start with the letter F. Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco? This is one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing. Thanks in advance for any assistance. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Maia marriage
Excellent. Thanks Pam Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: He was the son of Manuel de Sousa and Ursula de Viveiros. She was the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos and Theresa de Viveiros On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page. As best as I an make out they were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out. The last name appears to start with the letter F. Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco? This is one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing. Thanks in advance for any assistance. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/AORIg4ftbB8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage
Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and muller And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and Antonia or Roza Cabral of Porto Formoso? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Herb, They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São José. José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha. Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu: Hi Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page. As best as I an make out they were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out. The last name appears to start with the letter F. Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco? This is one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing. Thanks in advance for any assistance. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/AORIg4ftbB8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage
I wonder why they didn't list her last name if indeed it was Nunes. Most records I have seen from that time period listed the wife's last name Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Erica Botelho audiosource...@qwestoffice.net wrote: From a different record, I have Joao Sousa Travassos’s wife’s name as Maria Nunes. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:05 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora da Estrella Ribeira Grande, her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria Cabral from Porto Formoso On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and muller And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and Antonia or Roza Cabral of Porto Formoso? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Herb, They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São José. José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha. Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu: Hi Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page. As best as I an make out they were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out. The last name appears to start with the letter F. Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco? This is one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing. Thanks in advance for any assistance. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/AORIg4ftbB8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage
I am connected through Jose de Sousa and Theresa Viveiros. Their daughter Joana married Manuel da Silva in Sao Jose on 11 July 1778. But Manuel was first married to Joana's sister Maria who passed away. I read this in RR book awhile back but can't remember exactly where. Anyway the Manuel da Silva and Joana de Sousa line leads directly to my great great grandmother Maria Julia Silva and great grandfather Francisco Mendonca. Their daughter Diana was my grandmas mother. Amazing!!!Herb Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: 8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a fact I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande, Furnas, Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha (border area) where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five villages. Furnas by all the evidence is a place where people went to find work. And I believe I read from somewhere in RR, that some of these families were involved in opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last frontier. All the older Furnas records are in the parish of Divino Espirito Santo, Maia; same with Lomba da Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc. JR On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora da Estrella Ribeira Grande, her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria Cabral from Porto Formoso On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herba...@verizon.net wrote: Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and muller And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and Antonia or Roza Cabral of Porto Formoso? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Herb, They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São José. José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha. Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu: Hi Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page. As best as I an make out they were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out. The last name appears to start with the letter F. Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco? This is one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing. Thanks in advance for any assistance. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/AORIg4ftbB8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right
[AZORES-Genealogy] Ja Defunto
Has anyone come across a situation where a parent of the groom or bride in a marriage record is not listed as being dead defunto but you know for a fact that the parent was already dead? Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with death record
Eliseu, Margaret, DougThank you all who have responded. I was up late and kind of half asleep and gave you the wrong birth date for my great grandmother. Maria's birth date was actually 27 Aug 1862 not 27 May. Her parents married on 11 April 1836 in Agua de PauThe Dos Santos name goes back several generations in Agua de Pau until marriages with the Fagundes and Borges ou Naborges which is a family also related to Margaret. I have that history. I will keep searching. I checked Lagoa too. By the way she was a seamstress a "costureira" working in a home when she got pregnant. The child was my g grandfatherInacio b. 22 Nov 1883and he was raised by the Ventura family and raised with the Ventura surname. Later on in life he was known as Ignacio Ventura and also as Jose Ignacio Ventura. The godparents were Joao do Rego Vital and Maria D'Andrade "viuva" widow.and both according to his baptism record appear to be from Sao Pedro PD, because they were known by the priest who was in parish of Sao Pedro P.D. By the way he married on 1 July 1908 in Rosto do Cao.It is possible she didn't die immediately, but I would think she would have raised him herself if she hadn'tHerbOn 10/12/14, Eliseu Pacheco da Silvaeliseumanuel@gmail.com wrote:Hi Herb!Is there any chance of her being held at the Misericórdia Hospital of Ponta Delgada?Another question is: Água de Pau was “near” Vila Franca do Campo (wich has a S. Pedro parish and a Misericórdia hospital) and “near” Ribeira Grande (the same). You may want to try also Lagoa.At the age of 21 she would be married by that time… She was living alone in Ponta Delgada? Do you have the address of the baby birth? If she was a maid at some home she could have been buried with the employer name… In those days a maid was a Maria dos Santos, period! Nobody would “care” to know who their parents were… if she had been pregnant without a husband, most likely people would dismiss her… with no place to go…As your grandfather survived he must have been raised by someone… try to find out if he was given to be fed… look at the names too… Another question is “dos Santos” was used in some villages to “identify” the incognitos… Do you know the parents of Manuel dos Santos? If so try to look for a Maria buried with that name... By that time, in the obituary, the scriber would note the cause of death. Look for something like “morreo de parto” or “morreo ao dar à luz” (died giving birth).Also try any registries of orphans… Hope this opens you new lines to search JDe: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de HerbEnviada:domingo, 12 de Outubro de 2014 03:06Para: azores@googlegroups.comAssunto:[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with death recordFamily tradition says that my great grandmother died giving birth or died shortly after giving birth to my gg gandafather. He was born on 22 Nov 1883 in Sao Pedro Ponta Delgada.The father was incognito.She would have been 21 when she gave birth. Her name was Maria dos Santos of Agua de Pau born 27 May 1862, daughter of Manuel dos Santos and Ricarda do Espirito Santo. They were married 11 May 1836. I have looked for many years for Maria dos Santos obituary.Because her son was born in Sao Pedro I searched there first,and all of the surrounding parishes of Sao Sebastiao and Sao Jose, Rosto do Cao etc. I also checked her village of Agua de Pau. I haven't been able to find it and not sure Iever will.Please let me know if you should come across this record or if you are related to these families?thanksHerb-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/76hs80uJrUo/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://gro
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with death record
Family tradition says that my great grandmother died giving birth or died shortly after giving birth to my gg gandafather. He was born on 22 Nov 1883 in Sao Pedro Ponta Delgada. The father was incognito. She would have been 21 when she gave birth. Her name was Maria dos Santos of Agua de Pau born 27 May 1862, daughter of Manuel dos Santos and Ricarda do Espirito Santo. They were married 11 May 1836. I have looked for many years for Maria dos Santos obituary. Because her son was born in Sao Pedro I searched there first, and all of the surrounding parishes of Sao Sebastiao and Sao Jose, Rosto do Cao etc. I also checked her village of Agua de Pau. I haven't been able to find it and not sure I ever will. Please let me know if you should come across this record or if you are related to these families? thanks Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Naming of Expostos
Hi SusanOne option is that you can email the pic directly from your I phone. Go to thecamera button on your I phone, find the pic and tap it, thentap the up arrowjust below the pic, and wait a sec, then type in the email addressazores@googlegrous.com. We would love to see itHerbOn 08/10/14, 'Susan Vargas Murphy' via Azores Genealogyazores@googlegroups.com wrote:I took a picture of one of these wheels when I was in Angra recently and it was very interesting to see.quite different from how I had imagined it. I always thought the wheel was flat like a wagon wheelhorizontal but it was like a box more flush with the outside wall. I have no clue how to get that picture from my iPhone to here as I tried to copy and paste it and that did not workmaybe I need to transfer it to my computer? Anyway, I am obviously technically challenged:) and will post if you can tell me how to do it;) Susan Vargas Murphy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."--- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/IZ_S7PgXa80/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Naming of Expostos
Amazing. Thank you Doug Sent from my iPhone On Aug 10, 2014, at 11:50 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Here's the picture by Susan of the roda. I am not certain I rotated it correctly. I think it's a vertical picture, but if I have it wrong, just rotate it correctly or turn your head. :-) Doug da Rocha Holmes Pico Terceira Genealogist = Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants. Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com = -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/IZ_S7PgXa80/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. roda-by-Susan-Vargas-Murphy.JPG -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Naming of Expostos
John thank you very much for sharing this very important information Herb Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2014, at 9:37 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: MaryAnn, Are these books available in English? Do you know how many he has written? Thank you, Nancy From: m...@nyu.edu Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:07:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Naming of Expostos To: azores@googlegroups.com Thank you, John. I had forgotten about Father Amara and as an aside, The Sins of Father Amaro is an excellent read - as are all of the Queiroz books I've read. MaryAnn On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: In my researching experience, I have noted the following: When people from the villages went to the convents in Ponta Delgada and Ribeira Grande to have foundling babies placed with them, there was not, necessarily, a connection between the foster parent and the baby. As for the villages, if an unmarried (or widowed) woman was pregnant, I think that in such small places where everybody knew everybody else, I doubt that the pregnancy could go unnoticed. And, the parish priest, who heard confessions at a time when people really worried about what would happen if they died in a state of mortal sin, must have known what his penitents were up to. I think that when a baby was left at somebody's door in a small village, everybody knew, or thought they knew, who the mother (and maybe the father) were. Sometimes these children might have been left at the doors of relatives, but they would have required a nursemaid, i.e.a woman with breast milk. As for names, again, there is no one answer. Babies who were placed with and stayed with the same family to adulthood (as opposed to being shipped out as servants from family to family) sometimes took the family name. Sometimes an exposto took a name, e.g. Bettencourt, with no apparent rime or reason. However, a closer look shows that the Bettencourts were a prominent family in the village and perhaps it was an open secret that this baby was the offspring of the squire's son (or daughter). Infant mortality for expostos was much higher than among non-exposto babies. The state paid a stipend for the first few months of life for babies placed with nursing foster-mothers. When the subsidy stopped, the infant mortality rate rose substantially. Eça de Queiroz touched on this subject in his novel O Crime do Padre Amaro; one of the characters made her living by taking in unwanted/illegitimate babies of the socially promminent and arranging for their deaths. Eloise Cadinha, a member of the List, sent me her notes on this subject, and with my thanks to Eloise, I am enclose them: Most of us as we research our ancestors will find an exposto or two. It is indeed miraculous that they were able to survive to adulthood, to marry and to have children. Expostos - a translation. A very sad situation. The following is my poor translation of part of an article written by Henrique Bras 1884-1984) in Boletim de Instituto Histórico da ilha Terceira, 1947. In the last three centuries there is a long list of filhos da igreja (children of the church), also known at times as baptism records, of unknown fathers and mothers in the parish registers of Terceira, who were often baptized with the most noble or notable or the very rich people of Terceira who stood as godparents. At a more recent time the number of children secretly abandoned at the rodas (wheels) had greatly increased, and in spite of the many recently born innocents who died when abandoned, and of the few to whom the fear of discovery still did not keep them from strangling babies before they saw the light of day. Providing the support of these children who survived became on of the most difficult problems for the various city halls on the island, demanding a new special tax...which the people agreed was needed but not without grumbling and finding fault with the new tax. On April 29, 1800, the Conde de Almada, Captitão General of the Azores, in Angra, informed an official of the Royal Court that in the ten years the cathedral registered annually an average of 97 expostos baptized and also registered an average of 83 who had died! And this was only those engeitados (abandoned ones) who had arrived at the cathedral to be baptized, those that had been left in the Casa da Roda, and this record was only for Angra. The city council continued without resources to provide for these children and thought about creating a lottery for that purpose. It needs to be said: with a population of about 10 to 12 thousand people, there were yearly on an average 97 recently born abandoned children of unknown parents, legally registered and of which 83 of these died -- naturally by affectionate handling
[AZORES-Genealogy] Naming of Expostos
I'm sure this topic has been discussed here before, but I don't recall seeing it. When an exposto was born and baptized and given to a family to be raised, did he take on the adopting family's names, or did he use his real parents names? Did the new parents always know who the real parents were? These were small villages and everybody basically knew everybody's business. It didn't take long for news to travel from one end of Mayberry to the other, right? Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] NS da Estrela Marriage 10 June 1792
Hello Everyone Can anyone make out the word after the grooms fathers name in this record. Groom was Luis de Teves and the father was Joao de Teves ???/ The word after Teves I cannot quite make it out. It almost looks like auzente. It is probably not significant but I thought I would check. I know everything else in this record except for that word, which may come to me later on. He is my 6th gg grandfather. Thanks and have a great weekend. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798_item1/P114.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NS da Estrela Marriage 10 June 1792
Yeah absent. Thanks Cheri that makes sense. Possibly he was sick or didn't approve of the marriage and did not attend. Herb Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm reading ausente/auzente as well. The groom's father was absent. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hello Everyone Can anyone make out the word after the grooms fathers name in this record. Groom was Luis de Teves and the father was Joao de Teves ???/ The word after Teves I cannot quite make it out. It almost looks like auzente. It is probably not significant but I thought I would check. I know everything else in this record except for that word, which may come to me later on. He is my 6th gg grandfather. Thanks and have a great weekend. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798_item1/P114.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-M7bsSVbeQ/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NS da Estrela Marriage 10 June 1792
Right. Who would take care of the cows or fish for dinner???lol Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Or the groom's dad had to work. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:28 AM, herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Yeah absent. Thanks Cheri that makes sense. Possibly he was sick or didn't approve of the marriage and did not attend. Herb Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm reading ausente/auzente as well. The groom's father was absent. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hello Everyone Can anyone make out the word after the grooms fathers name in this record. Groom was Luis de Teves and the father was Joao de Teves ???/ The word after Teves I cannot quite make it out. It almost looks like auzente. It is probably not significant but I thought I would check. I know everything else in this record except for that word, which may come to me later on. He is my 6th gg grandfather. Thanks and have a great weekend. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1784-1798_item1/P114.html Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-M7bsSVbeQ/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-M7bsSVbeQ/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] adopted by Rego Alves
Hello Can anyone make out the name of the adopted mother in this record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1870-1874/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1870-1874_item1/P185.html left side, the exposto Jose born Jan 1872. It almost looks like Thomassia Gloria? This woman and her husband Joao do Rego Alves is likely the couple who adopted my exposto great grandfather Jose de Sousa e Silva. The dates fit, his birth marriage and date of death all fit. Thanks to someone on this list, who pointed it out to me, I checked all the dates and they all fit. Coincidentally 100 years earlier in 1774 a man also named Joao do Rego Alves was getting married in Sao Pedro Ribeira Seca SAo Miguel. That man was the great grandfather of the exposto's wife Cecilia da Conceicao Pacheco. She married the exposto on 1 Feb 1892 in NS da Estrela RG. Any theories or connections? Fascinating!!! Thanks Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] NS da Estrela
The Ribeira Grande records are up in the CCA site, but only up to 1801 and only for baptisms.. hoping they load the rest soon.. Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Soccer in Azores (1915-1921)
Hi Karen, my dad who was born in the Azores played in the mainland in Lisbon on a professional soccer team called Belenenses. He also played for a team called Micalense in Ponta Delgada in his late teens. Later on when he was in his early 30s he played for the Lomba da Fazenda team in Nordeste. I have spoken with older folks Sao Miguel from that generation. They all tell me the same thing, that my dad Nicolau was probably the greatest soccer player to ever come from the Azores. This Ronaldo guy has nothing on him, but it was a much different era. Professional soccer back then was nothing like it is today. Just thought I would share. Herb -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao Da Costa Ferraz and Antonia Francisca
Hi Eliseu I gave you the wrong date and location. Here is the correct information Antonio Jose Terceira Coelho was born in Se Angra do Heroismo, Terceira and married Jacinta Rosa of Conceicao Ribeira Grande on 10 Nov 1817 in Conceicao Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel. The. Conceicao marriage records are not up on the site yet. I know Rick Pimentel had said he had access to some of the Conceicao marriages. Sorry about the wrong date. Jacinta was the daughter of Luis de Teves Ferreira of NS da Estrela and Maria Joaquina of Sao Sebastiao PD and was born on 8 July 1798 in NS da Conceicao RG. Herb Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 4:08 PM, herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Eliseu it was in Conceicao Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Where in Ribeira Grande José Jacinto do Rego married? J eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Herb and Judi Silva Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2014 02:52 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao Da Costa Ferraz and Antonia Francisca Hi Doug I do have a line that originated in Terceira, a Joao de Rosa and Ana Joaquina of Se, Angra do Heroismo Terceira, who had a son named Antonio Jose Terceira Coelho who was born in Se Parish, but married Jacinta Rosa in NS da Conceicao, Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel on 8 July 1798. I don't have dates for Joao Rosa and Ana Joaquina and CCA has not posted any Ribeira Grande records so it's a bit challenging to do crosschecks and prove lines. I'm hoping to live long enough to actually see those records in the CCA site. LOL Antonio Jose Terceira Coelho ( is one of my 4th great grandfathers) and Jacinta Rosa had a daughter Luzia Candida who married Jose Jacinto Rego on 14 Jan 1839 in Ribeira Grande. You know how Portuguese people are notorious and unforgiving with use of nicknames, so coming from Terceira to Sao Miguel, he was likely given the nickname of Terceira. Did the Rosa family move to Sao Miguel from Terceira? Interesting though that my grandfather moved to Angra in the 1930's from Sao Miguel. Was there a connection there, who knows? Herb On 05/26/14, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Herb, If your line is Ferraz, this might be a connection to Terceira. I think it was Manoel Furtado of Brasil who once mentioned a Ferraz ancestor showing up on Sao Miguel. Might not be this one, but could be. I think he'll see the message and comment on it. His line came from Se, Angra (the cathedral in downtown Angra) in the early 1600s, I believe. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao Da Costa Ferraz and Antonia Francisca From: Herb herbandj...@verizon.net Date: Mon, May 26, 2014 4:12 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com I'm trying to locate the parents of Joao da Costa Ferraz and Antonia Francisca of Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1809-1832/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1809-1832_item1/P78.html. Right side Their son Antonio Jacinto da Costa Ferraz was born 7 Jul 1784 and married Barbara Querobina do Espirito Santo on 10 Feb 1817 in Agua de Pau. On their marriage record she was listed as Barbara Querobina do Coracao de Jesus. Witnesses at this marriage were Antonio Caetano da Silva Lopes and Antonio Jose Tavares It's possible that Joao's parents were not from Agua de Pau. I'm thinking maybe they were from Vila Franca, but I have not been able to find them. Does anyone have these families? Herb -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/GC5h8lwvSxE/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao Da Costa Ferraz and Antonia Francisca
Hi Eliseu it was in Conceicao Sent from my iPhone On May 27, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Where in Ribeira Grande José Jacinto do Rego married? J eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Herb and Judi Silva Enviada: terça-feira, 27 de Maio de 2014 02:52 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao Da Costa Ferraz and Antonia Francisca Hi Doug I do have a line that originated in Terceira, a Joao de Rosa and Ana Joaquina of Se, Angra do Heroismo Terceira, who had a son named Antonio Jose Terceira Coelho who was born in Se Parish, but married Jacinta Rosa in NS da Conceicao, Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel on 8 July 1798. I don't have dates for Joao Rosa and Ana Joaquina and CCA has not posted any Ribeira Grande records so it's a bit challenging to do crosschecks and prove lines. I'm hoping to live long enough to actually see those records in the CCA site. LOL Antonio Jose Terceira Coelho ( is one of my 4th great grandfathers) and Jacinta Rosa had a daughter Luzia Candida who married Jose Jacinto Rego on 14 Jan 1839 in Ribeira Grande. You know how Portuguese people are notorious and unforgiving with use of nicknames, so coming from Terceira to Sao Miguel, he was likely given the nickname of Terceira. Did the Rosa family move to Sao Miguel from Terceira? Interesting though that my grandfather moved to Angra in the 1930's from Sao Miguel. Was there a connection there, who knows? Herb On 05/26/14, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Herb, If your line is Ferraz, this might be a connection to Terceira. I think it was Manoel Furtado of Brasil who once mentioned a Ferraz ancestor showing up on Sao Miguel. Might not be this one, but could be. I think he'll see the message and comment on it. His line came from Se, Angra (the cathedral in downtown Angra) in the early 1600s, I believe. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parents of Joao Da Costa Ferraz and Antonia Francisca From: Herb herbandj...@verizon.net Date: Mon, May 26, 2014 4:12 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com I'm trying to locate the parents of Joao da Costa Ferraz and Antonia Francisca of Agua de Pau, Sao Miguel http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1809-1832/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-C-1809-1832_item1/P78.html. Right side Their son Antonio Jacinto da Costa Ferraz was born 7 Jul 1784 and married Barbara Querobina do Espirito Santo on 10 Feb 1817 in Agua de Pau. On their marriage record she was listed as Barbara Querobina do Coracao de Jesus. Witnesses at this marriage were Antonio Caetano da Silva Lopes and Antonio Jose Tavares It's possible that Joao's parents were not from Agua de Pau. I'm thinking maybe they were from Vila Franca, but I have not been able to find them. Does anyone have these families? Herb -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/GC5h8lwvSxE/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/GC5h8lwvSxE/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send
