RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
This “must be” correct! :) “I can add one new detail to our Monte research. I found a death entry for Manoel, 8 months old, died 5 Aug 1793 in Achada. His mother was Maria Furtada and the father is Pai Incognito. Maria's parents are given as Miguel do Monte and Thereza Furtada. Given the date, I assume this is Maria from Miguel, the son. She did have a son named Manoel born 5 Dec 1792, so this is probably him. (record is image no. 0059 of this set)” -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Margaret, It was really confusing with all the similar names. What child does your husband descend from? The only child of Antonio Furtado de Resendes and Maria de Pimentel that I have married is my ancestors, Antonia Pimentel (m. Joze Furtado). I have these children: Maria, Barbara, Joze I, Joze II, Hipolito, Antonia, and Antonio. Mel On Sunday, June 15, 2014 4:23:34 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote: Mel, thanks. I'll update my tree. This is my husband's line and if you descend from Antonia de Pimentel you and he have a common ancestor, Antonia's parents; Antonio Furtado de Resendes and Maria de Pimentel. Margaret Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Hello, Here is the link to what is suspected as being the marriage record of Miguel de Monte and Maria Furtada bottom recordpage is torn, so you can only make out the groom's name as Miguel. January 17, 1717. I think a lister had found a marriage record of a possible brother or sister of Miguel de Monte. I got the year and day of marriage from the Canto index Cheri had posted. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P93.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Aaron, Before anyone asks, it's my own file in Excel that I typed up from Canto's index (amended by Rodrigo Rodrigues (RR)). It goes from 168x (date can't be read) to 1729 if memory serves me correctly. It's not posted anywhere, I have to email it to you. Remember, you'll need Excel to read it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Aaron, Okay, now I remember looking at this record. I have it in my notes, but it hasn't gotten into my database yet. I think with all the Miguel do Monte records I've seen the last two weeks that my brain blanked. Thanks Mel On Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:06:05 AM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote: Hello, Here is the link to what is suspected as being the marriage record of Miguel de Monte and Maria Furtada bottom recordpage is torn, so you can only make out the groom's name as Miguel. January 17, 1717. I think a lister had found a marriage record of a possible brother or sister of Miguel de Monte. I got the year and day of marriage from the Canto index Cheri had posted. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P93.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Margaret, I think you missed my post a couple of days ago. There was some confusion over whether there was one or two Miguel do Monte's in Achada. It turns out there were two, father and son, and both married women of the same name. The births from 1758 onward belong to the son and his wife. It was sorted out by the birth place of the parents: Miguel do Monte, the father, was born in Achadinha, and his wife, Thereza Furtado was born in Agua Retorta. Miguel do Monte, the son, and his wife Thereza Furtada were born born in Achada. This was also clarified by the use of Mancebo after the son's name in the baptismals which someone defined as meaning the younger. Miguel do Monte, the father, died 16 Jul 1764, Achada, and his wife Thereza Furtada died 15 Jan 1762 in Achada Miguel do Monte, the son, died 28 Apr 1810, Achada and his wife, Thereza Furtada died 9 Nov 1806, Achada These are the children of Miguel do Monte, the son, and Thereza Furtada: 1-Miguel do MONTE II-2007 b: May 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. d: 28 April 1810, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. +Thereza FURTADA-10883 b: circa 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. m: circa 1755, Sao Miguel Isl., Azores . . . . 2-Maria FURTADO?-2019 b: 4 May 1756, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Manoel da COSTA Twin-2022 b: 19 May 1759, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Isabel FURTADO? Twin-2023 b: 19 May 1759, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Antonio FURTADO?-2024 b: 25 January 1762, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Pascoal FURTADO?-2025 b: 22 April 1764, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Jose FURTADO?-2026 b: 11 April 1766, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Joze FURTADO-2005 - My ancestor married Antonia Pimenetel b: 13 September 1767, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Maria FURTADO-2027 b: 12 May 1770, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Pedro FURTADO?-2028 b: 11 October 1775, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Maria FURTADA-10108 Hope this helps sort it out. If you connect to Joze Furtado and Antonia Pimentel, then we are related as these are my ancestors. I descend from their daughter, Rosa Pimentel who married Jose Francisco de Mello. Mel On Friday, June 13, 2014 9:54:38 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote: Hi, Miguel do Monte and Teresa Furtado had more children after 1758. I have in my tree their son, Jose Furtado born Sep 13 1767 (SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1751-1770_0118) he married Antonia de Pimentel in Achada Grande, Nordeste (CCA-SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1788-1818_0018) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
Hello all, First, I want to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread. I have learned a lot about this family and gained some information that I did not have when I started. I have completed my research in the Baptismals from 1712 to 1757. I describe earlier the last birth I found for Miguel do Monte, the father. The earliest birth I came across for Miguel do Monte and Maria Furtada is for Maria, b. 10 Dec 1717? baptised 16 Dec 1717? Image no. 0046. I had trouble making out the dates and the padrinhos. I used the records nearby to get the year. So, ol' Miguel do Monte had children from 1717 until 1758. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1712-1732/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1712-1732_item1/P46.html This list represents the children I found by each of Miguel's wives. I used the surname Monte where it was not found in other records: +Maria FURTADA-2125 b: circa 1695, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. d: 9 August 1725, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Maria do MONTE-10902 b: maybe 10 December 1717, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Manoel MONTE-10117 b: 15 March 1719, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Andre do MONTE-5794 b: 3 March 1722, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Jozeph do MONTE-5795 b: 16 November 1723, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. +Maria da COSTA-5793 b: circa 1695, Sao Pedro, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores m: 5 November 1725, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. d: before 1755 . . . . 2-Antonia dos REIS-10821 b: 21 November 1726, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Francisca MONTE I-10126 b: March 1728, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Miguel do MONTE II-2007 b: May 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. d: 28 April 1810, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-??? MONTE-10127 b: 16 June 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Francisca do COSTA-6440 b: 17 January 1733, Achadinha, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Manoel MONTE-6441 b: 30 April 1734, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Felicia dos REIS-6442 b: 22 September 1736, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Roza MONTE twin-6443 b: 28 August 1743, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Maria MONTE-6444 b: 28 August 1743, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores +Tereza FURTADA-2008 b: 3 April 1716, Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel, Acores m: d: 15 January 1762, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Margarida FURTADO?-2015 b: 21 August 1745, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Rosa FURTADO?-2017 b: 17 November 1746, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Margarida FURTADO?-2016 b: 3 May 1748, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Joam FURTADO?-2018 b: 15 July 1752, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Izidorio MONTE-2020 b: 4 March 1755, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Barbara FURTADO?-2021 b: 23 July 1758, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores So far, I have found 3 children for Bartholomeu, Miguel do Monte's brother. Though, I must confess I didn't pay attention to this name until I was in the 1730. 1-Bartholomeu FURTADO DA COSTA-10892 b: circa 1690, Achadinha, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. +Maria FURTADO REBELO-10895 b: circa 1690, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. m: 8 October 1724, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Maria FURTADO DA COSTA-10901 b: 28 December 1724, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Barbara FURTADO DA COSTA-10900 b: 1726, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Joao FURTADO DA COSTA-10899 b: 7 December 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. I can't seem to find this in my notes. Is the marriage date for Miguel do Monte's first marriage to Maria Furtada known? Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
Hi, Miguel do Monte and Teresa Furtado had more children after 1758. I have in my tree their son, Jose Furtado born Sep 13 1767 (SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1751-1770_0118) he married Antonia de Pimentel in Achada Grande, Nordeste (CCA-SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1788-1818_0018) On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:53 PM, IslandRoutes insearchofthehumanspi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, First, I want to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread. I have learned a lot about this family and gained some information that I did not have when I started. I have completed my research in the Baptismals from 1712 to 1757. I describe earlier the last birth I found for Miguel do Monte, the father. The earliest birth I came across for Miguel do Monte and Maria Furtada is for Maria, b. 10 Dec 1717? baptised 16 Dec 1717? Image no. 0046. I had trouble making out the dates and the padrinhos. I used the records nearby to get the year. So, ol' Miguel do Monte had children from 1717 until 1758. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1712-1732/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1712-1732_item1/P46.html This list represents the children I found by each of Miguel's wives. I used the surname Monte where it was not found in other records: +Maria FURTADA-2125 b: circa 1695, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. d: 9 August 1725, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Maria do MONTE-10902 b: maybe 10 December 1717, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Manoel MONTE-10117 b: 15 March 1719, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Andre do MONTE-5794 b: 3 March 1722, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Jozeph do MONTE-5795 b: 16 November 1723, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. +Maria da COSTA-5793 b: circa 1695, Sao Pedro, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores m: 5 November 1725, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. d: before 1755 . . . . 2-Antonia dos REIS-10821 b: 21 November 1726, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Francisca MONTE I-10126 b: March 1728, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Miguel do MONTE II-2007 b: May 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. d: 28 April 1810, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-??? MONTE-10127 b: 16 June 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Francisca do COSTA-6440 b: 17 January 1733, Achadinha, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Manoel MONTE-6441 b: 30 April 1734, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Felicia dos REIS-6442 b: 22 September 1736, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Roza MONTE twin-6443 b: 28 August 1743, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Maria MONTE-6444 b: 28 August 1743, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores +Tereza FURTADA-2008 b: 3 April 1716, Agua Retorta, Sao Miguel, Acores m: d: 15 January 1762, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Margarida FURTADO?-2015 b: 21 August 1745, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Rosa FURTADO?-2017 b: 17 November 1746, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Margarida FURTADO?-2016 b: 3 May 1748, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Joam FURTADO?-2018 b: 15 July 1752, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Izidorio MONTE-2020 b: 4 March 1755, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores . . . . 2-Barbara FURTADO?-2021 b: 23 July 1758, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores So far, I have found 3 children for Bartholomeu, Miguel do Monte's brother. Though, I must confess I didn't pay attention to this name until I was in the 1730. 1-Bartholomeu FURTADO DA COSTA-10892 b: circa 1690, Achadinha, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. +Maria FURTADO REBELO-10895 b: circa 1690, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. m: 8 October 1724, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Maria FURTADO DA COSTA-10901 b: 28 December 1724, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Barbara FURTADO DA COSTA-10900 b: 1726, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. . . . . 2-Joao FURTADO DA COSTA-10899 b: 7 December 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl. I can't seem to find this in my notes. Is the marriage date for Miguel do Monte's first marriage to Maria Furtada known? Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest,
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
JR, Do you have the link on CCA to this marriage for Teresa Furtado and Manuel Barbosa de Simas? iii.TERESA FURTADO, b. Abt. 1685, Achadinha- NS do Rosario; m. MANUEL BARBOSA DE SIMAS, 03 Jun 1716, Achadinha- NS do Rosario; b. 11 Feb 1680, Faial de Terra- NS da Graca; d. Bef. 10 Sep 1732. On Sunday, June 8, 2014 11:36:23 AM UTC-4, JR wrote: I am reasonably certain that Miguel do Monte is the son of Bartolomeu da Costa and Barbara de Paiva, both natives of Achadinha. they had: *1.* BARTOLOMEU DA1 COSTA was born in Achadinha- NS do Rosario, and died Bef. 21 Feb 1718. He married BARBARA DE PAIVA. She was born in Achadinha- NS do Rosario. Children of BARTOLOMEU COSTA and BARBARA PAIVA are: i.BARTOLOMEU FURTADO2 DA COSTA, b. Achadinha- NS do Rosario; m. MARIA FURTADO REBELO, 08 Oct 1724, Achada Grande- NS Annunciacao; b. Achada Grande. ii.MARIA DO MONTE, b. Achadinha- NS do Rosario; m. P EDRO FURTADO, 04 Feb 1707, Achadinha- NS do Rosario; b. Abt. 1683, Maia- Espirito Santo, res Furnas. iii.TERESA FURTADO, b. Abt. 1685, Achadinha- NS do Rosario; m. MANUEL BARBOSA DE SIMAS, 03 Jun 1716, Achadinha- NS do Rosario; b. 11 Feb 1680, Faial de Terra- NS da Graca; d. Bef. 10 Sep 1732. iv.MIGUEL DO MONTE, b. Abt. 1692, Achadinha- NS do Rosario, res of Achada; d. 16 Jul 1764, Achada Grande; m. (1) MARIA F URTADO, 17 Jan 1717, Achada Grande- NS Annunciacao; b. Abt. 1695, Achada Grande- NS do Annunciacao; d. 09 Aug 1725, Achada Grande; m. (2) MARIA DA COSTA, 05 Nov 1725, Nordeste- Sao Jorge; b. Abt. 1704, Sao Antonio, Nordestinho- res. of Achada; d. Bef. 07 Sep 1744, Achada Grande; m. (3) T ERESA FURTADO, 07 Sep 1744, Faial da Terra- NS da Graca; b. 03 Apr 1716, Agua Retorta- res of Achada Grande; d. 15 Jan 1762, Achada Grande. On Sunday, June 8, 2014 10:18:51 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: GREAT!!! J I also found an António do Monte married to Águeda Raposo in Nordestinho. He is mentioned both in Rodrigo Rodrigues, Chapter 325 and Canto Index… so we are chasing different António!!! As parents of Miguel do Monte married to Maria da Costa I have Bartolomeu da Costa married to a Bárbara (…) *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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To all, This is what I have to add to “our Monte novel” - Maria da Costa married to Miguel do Monte, father was the widow of Manuel Jácome Raposo. They had married in Nordestinho 15 September 1724. - Maria Correia, daughter of Antónia dos Reis is named MARIA CLARA at her marriage in Achada 16 September 1781. Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Hello, In case anyone is interested, here are a few records pertaining to Maria da Costa and her family. Here is Francisco Correia Ribeiro's (Maria's dad) first marriage to Maria Veiria, in Achada, top record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P28.html here is his second marriage to Ana da Costa, in Nordestinho, bottom record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746_item1/P3.html here is Joao's baptism, Maria's brother...in Nordestinho, bottom right http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-B-1687-1706/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-B-1687-1706_item1/P127.html and lastly, here is Maria da Costa's baptism, from Nordestinho, bottom right http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-B-1687-1706/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-B-1687-1706_item1/P83.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Aaron, Thanks for the information on Maria da Costa's family. I need to add this to be genealogy database. I believe I found two of Bertholomeu da Costa Furtado and Maria Furtado Rebelo's children last night in the baptismals for Acahda. This is in the set 1712-1733. The records are difficult to read, pages are rumbled, torn. I made them out the best I could. Image 0128 Joao b. 7 Dec 1730 bp. 11 Dec 1730 Parents: Bartholomeu da Costa Furtado, native of Achadinha and Mar Furtado Rabella, native of Achada Godparents: Thome da Simas, single, son of Manoel Simas and maria de Rezendes; and Maria Rezendes, single, dau of Mal. de Simas and maria Rezendes (it didn't say they were siblings, but it looks like they have the same parents) Image 0095 (this one is worse) Barbara b. 1726; bp 24? __ 1726 Parents: Bertholomeu Furtado of Achadinha and Mar_ (cut off) Godparents: P__ de Souza and Maria Furtada, both of Achadinha. Mel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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This is a very usefull help Aaron. Thank you!!! Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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I have not find no one named António do MONTE… (researched Achada and Achadinha) I will search Nordestinho and I will post a search on Rodrigo Rodrigues :) De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de IslandRoutes Enviada: domingo, 8 de Junho de 2014 03:47 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho? To all, Thanks! But, Dan should get part of the credit. He was the one who noticed that I had married off Miguel do Monte, the son, to his step mother (oops!) I know that I am my own cousin a couple of times, but this would be just a little too close. LOL JR-that gap in the Achada records is problematic. It's possible they married in a different village, but not having those 2-3 years to compare to is frustrating. I think we can safely put it somewhere around 1755. Eliseu, Thanks for the definition of Mancebo. I didn't know about the definition pertaining to eligibility for military service. I saw it with another of my families where the father and son were still alive. I was curious if in your search in Cantos index if you came across the Antonio do Monte who also had a son Miguel do Monte in Achada who started this whole conversation? It's interesting that they are so widespread. I need to look through some of the work in later years. Besides Miguel do Monte, the father and the son, and this Antonio do Monte, I did not come across the surname otherwise. And, now to confuse this whole mess. I realized last night as I was piecing all the families together that Antonio dos Reis, daughter of Miguel do Monte I and Maria da Costa, married Manoel Correia. I would like to verify that Antonio Correia was the son of Antonio Correia and Barbara de Almeyda. Is that what others have? If so, he is the brother of my ancestor, Estavao Correia (m. Anna de Mello) I have some of the other siblings of the Correia family if anyone is interested. Mel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Mel, I have António Correia and Bárbara de Almeida as the parents of Manuel Correia married to Antónia dos Reis. They married 11.1.1722 Achada. I have them back four or five generations… I think I havei t posted on my web page… De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de IslandRoutes Enviada: domingo, 8 de Junho de 2014 03:47 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho? To all, Thanks! But, Dan should get part of the credit. He was the one who noticed that I had married off Miguel do Monte, the son, to his step mother (oops!) I know that I am my own cousin a couple of times, but this would be just a little too close. LOL JR-that gap in the Achada records is problematic. It's possible they married in a different village, but not having those 2-3 years to compare to is frustrating. I think we can safely put it somewhere around 1755. Eliseu, Thanks for the definition of Mancebo. I didn't know about the definition pertaining to eligibility for military service. I saw it with another of my families where the father and son were still alive. I was curious if in your search in Cantos index if you came across the Antonio do Monte who also had a son Miguel do Monte in Achada who started this whole conversation? It's interesting that they are so widespread. I need to look through some of the work in later years. Besides Miguel do Monte, the father and the son, and this Antonio do Monte, I did not come across the surname otherwise. And, now to confuse this whole mess. I realized last night as I was piecing all the families together that Antonio dos Reis, daughter of Miguel do Monte I and Maria da Costa, married Manoel Correia. I would like to verify that Antonio Correia was the son of Antonio Correia and Barbara de Almeyda. Is that what others have? If so, he is the brother of my ancestor, Estavao Correia (m. Anna de Mello) I have some of the other siblings of the Correia family if anyone is interested. Mel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Eliseu, Antonio do Monte married in Faixo de Baixo Oct 9- 1763. He is son Miguel Monte and Maria da Costa, second wife of Miguel Monte Sr. JR http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P5.html On Sunday, June 8, 2014 8:12:30 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Mel, I have António Correia and Bárbara de Almeida as the parents of Manuel Correia married to Antónia dos Reis. They married 11.1.1722 Achada. I have them back four or five generations… I think I havei t posted on my web page… *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *Em nome de *IslandRoutes *Enviada:* domingo, 8 de Junho de 2014 03:47 *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho? To all, Thanks! But, Dan should get part of the credit. He was the one who noticed that I had married off Miguel do Monte, the son, to his step mother (oops!)I know that I am my own cousin a couple of times, but this would be just a little too close. LOL JR-that gap in the Achada records is problematic. It's possible they married in a different village, but not having those 2-3 years to compare to is frustrating. I think we can safely put it somewhere around 1755. Eliseu, Thanks for the definition of Mancebo. I didn't know about the definition pertaining to eligibility for military service. I saw it with another of my families where the father and son were still alive. I was curious if in your search in Cantos index if you came across the Antonio do Monte who also had a son Miguel do Monte in Achada who started this whole conversation? It's interesting that they are so widespread. I need to look through some of the work in later years. Besides Miguel do Monte, the father and the son, and this Antonio do Monte, I did not come across the surname otherwise. And, now to confuse this whole mess. I realized last night as I was piecing all the families together that Antonio dos Reis, daughter of Miguel do Monte I and Maria da Costa, married Manoel Correia. I would like to verify that Antonio Correia was the son of Antonio Correia and Barbara de Almeyda. Is that what others have? If so, he is the brother of my ancestor, Estavao Correia (m. Anna de Mello) I have some of the other siblings of the Correia family if anyone is interested. Mel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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GREAT!!! :) I also found an António do Monte married to Águeda Raposo in Nordestinho. He is mentioned both in Rodrigo Rodrigues, Chapter 325 and Canto Index… so we are chasing different António!!! As parents of Miguel do Monte married to Maria da Costa I have Bartolomeu da Costa married to a Bárbara (…) Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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I am reasonably certain that Miguel do Monte is the son of Bartolomeu da Costa and Barbara de Paiva, both natives of Achadinha. they had: *1.* BARTOLOMEU DA1 COSTA was born in Achadinha- NS do Rosario, and died Bef. 21 Feb 1718. He married BARBARA DE PAIVA. She was born in Achadinha- NS do Rosario. Children of BARTOLOMEU COSTA and BARBARA PAIVA are: i.BARTOLOMEU FURTADO2 DA COSTA, b. Achadinha- NS do Rosario; m. MARIA FURTADO REBELO, 08 Oct 1724, Achada Grande- NS Annunciacao; b. Achada Grande. ii.MARIA DO MONTE, b. Achadinha- NS do Rosario; m. P EDRO FURTADO, 04 Feb 1707, Achadinha- NS do Rosario; b. Abt. 1683, Maia- Espirito Santo, res Furnas. iii.TERESA FURTADO, b. Abt. 1685, Achadinha- NS do Rosario; m. MANUEL BARBOSA DE SIMAS, 03 Jun 1716, Achadinha- NS do Rosario; b. 11 Feb 1680, Faial de Terra- NS da Graca; d. Bef. 10 Sep 1732. iv.MIGUEL DO MONTE, b. Abt. 1692, Achadinha- NS do Rosario, res of Achada; d. 16 Jul 1764, Achada Grande; m. (1) MARIA FURTADO, 17 Jan 1717, Achada Grande- NS Annunciacao; b. Abt. 1695, Achada Grande- NS do Annunciacao; d. 09 Aug 1725, Achada Grande; m. (2) MARIA DA COSTA, 05 Nov 1725, Nordeste- Sao Jorge; b. Abt. 1704, Sao Antonio, Nordestinho- res. of Achada; d. Bef. 07 Sep 1744, Achada Grande; m. (3) TERESA FURTADO, 07 Sep 1744, Faial da Terra- NS da Graca; b. 03 Apr 1716, Agua Retorta- res of Achada Grande; d. 15 Jan 1762, Achada Grande. On Sunday, June 8, 2014 10:18:51 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: GREAT!!! J I also found an António do Monte married to Águeda Raposo in Nordestinho. He is mentioned both in Rodrigo Rodrigues, Chapter 325 and Canto Index… so we are chasing different António!!! As parents of Miguel do Monte married to Maria da Costa I have Bartolomeu da Costa married to a Bárbara (…) *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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JR, Awesome! I am amazed at how the Achada people seemed to spread out all over the island. When I researched my lines in Maia, it seemed families were more stationery (marrying amongst the people in Maia) I also agree, from your earlier notes, that Miguel do Monte, the father, is son of Bartholomeu Costa and Barbara de Paiva. I wonder where the Monte surname comes in? Eliseu, That Antonio do Monte and Agueda Raposa are the ones I was looking for. They have the son, Miguel do Monte (not to be confused with our Miguel do Monte's) who was in Achada in the late 1700s. I found the marriage record and too coincidental, my ancestor, Manoel Rebello Carneiro m. Maria Soares, was a widow and remarried. His record is right above Antonio do Monte and Agueda Raposa! Here is the link. Antonio and Agueda are on the bottom: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746_item1/P129.html page 2: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746_item1/P129.html This Antonio do Monte is son of Manoel Correia do Monte and Barbara Carvalho. So, if there is a connection to our do Monte's of Achada, then it is not obvious at this point at least to me. Also, as to Antonia dos Reis...Yes, Antonio Correa and Barbara Almeyda are my ancestors. I am connected to the son, Estevao. This is the line the spawns all my de Mello's. On Sunday, June 8, 2014 7:18:51 AM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: GREAT!!! J I also found an António do Monte married to Águeda Raposo in Nordestinho. He is mentioned both in Rodrigo Rodrigues, Chapter 325 and Canto Index… so we are chasing different António!!! As parents of Miguel do Monte married to Maria da Costa I have Bartolomeu da Costa married to a Bárbara (…) *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Sorry about that, Maria da Costa com Miguel Monte marriage should read Nov 5- 1725 in Achada, not Nordeste. JR On Sunday, June 8, 2014 10:18:11 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: JR, Awesome! I am amazed at how the Achada people seemed to spread out all over the island. When I researched my lines in Maia, it seemed families were more stationery (marrying amongst the people in Maia) I also agree, from your earlier notes, that Miguel do Monte, the father, is son of Bartholomeu Costa and Barbara de Paiva. I wonder where the Monte surname comes in? Eliseu, That Antonio do Monte and Agueda Raposa are the ones I was looking for. They have the son, Miguel do Monte (not to be confused with our Miguel do Monte's) who was in Achada in the late 1700s. I found the marriage record and too coincidental, my ancestor, Manoel Rebello Carneiro m. Maria Soares, was a widow and remarried. His record is right above Antonio do Monte and Agueda Raposa! Here is the link. Antonio and Agueda are on the bottom: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746_item1/P129.html page 2: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746/SMG-ND-NORDESTINHO-C-1700-1746_item1/P129.html This Antonio do Monte is son of Manoel Correia do Monte and Barbara Carvalho. So, if there is a connection to our do Monte's of Achada, then it is not obvious at this point at least to me. Also, as to Antonia dos Reis...Yes, Antonio Correa and Barbara Almeyda are my ancestors. I am connected to the son, Estevao. This is the line the spawns all my de Mello's. On Sunday, June 8, 2014 7:18:51 AM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: GREAT!!! J I also found an António do Monte married to Águeda Raposo in Nordestinho. He is mentioned both in Rodrigo Rodrigues, Chapter 325 and Canto Index… so we are chasing different António!!! As parents of Miguel do Monte married to Maria da Costa I have Bartolomeu da Costa married to a Bárbara (…) *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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So Mel, you have now been inducted into the Sherlock Holmes Detective hall of fame! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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WOW Great job sleuthing and rewarded by a great find On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: So Mel, you have now been inducted into the Sherlock Holmes Detective hall of fame! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Mel, JR, Aaron, By the way great search work Mel!!! I would like to have more free time to work on this. :) I am hunting down every MONTE I can find on Ernesto do Canto Index. I have done Achada, Achadinha and doing Vila do Nordeste. Until now I have not find any MANCEBO. Regarding to the meaning of the word MANCEBO at that time it is plausible that it would have the sense of junior. Junior started to be used (at least) in the 19th century to distinguish father and son with the same name… Mancebo, at that time meant also the boys turning 14 and being able to go to serve in the army. In the beginning the word meant “slave”, so we can assume the main sense of the word “mancebo” as someone who is dependant of someone else. So we may accept “mancebo” as “younger”. In our research it would mean that 2 MIGUEL MONTE existed at the same time in the same place! So, at least they were of the same family. Would they be father and son, or oncle and nephew, or cousins, or… ? Until now I have learnd that there are (at least) MONTE groups in almost everywhere: Ribeira Grande: Ribeira Seca, Maia, Porto Formoso, Achada, Achadinha, Vila de Nordeste, Ponta Garça, Ponta Delgada… The big question is to understand if they belong to just one and same family… I will be posting my findings in my web page. Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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To all, Thanks! But, Dan should get part of the credit. He was the one who noticed that I had married off Miguel do Monte, the son, to his step mother (oops!)I know that I am my own cousin a couple of times, but this would be just a little too close. LOL JR-that gap in the Achada records is problematic. It's possible they married in a different village, but not having those 2-3 years to compare to is frustrating. I think we can safely put it somewhere around 1755. Eliseu, Thanks for the definition of Mancebo. I didn't know about the definition pertaining to eligibility for military service. I saw it with another of my families where the father and son were still alive. I was curious if in your search in Cantos index if you came across the Antonio do Monte who also had a son Miguel do Monte in Achada who started this whole conversation? It's interesting that they are so widespread. I need to look through some of the work in later years. Besides Miguel do Monte, the father and the son, and this Antonio do Monte, I did not come across the surname otherwise. And, now to confuse this whole mess. I realized last night as I was piecing all the families together that Antonio dos Reis, daughter of Miguel do Monte I and Maria da Costa, married Manoel Correia. I would like to verify that Antonio Correia was the son of Antonio Correia and Barbara de Almeyda. Is that what others have? If so, he is the brother of my ancestor, Estavao Correia (m. Anna de Mello) I have some of the other siblings of the Correia family if anyone is interested. Mel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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I just wanted to update on the research I did last night. I started look at the Obitos for Achada in the 1730s (going backward). I haven't found any Monte's as yet. Then, I reviewed the marriage work I've already done. I noted every marriage from 1747-1777. What strikes me is despite all those children born to Miguel do Monte and 1 to 3 wives, I'm not finding them in the Achada marriages. I might not have gone early enough for group one which is Manoel, Miguel, Andre, and Jozeph. But I should have been smack in the middle of the marriages for group two. So far, I've only found Antonio dos Reis and Felicia dos Reis. Yet, there were 9 children total. Has anyone else come across the marriages for: Francisca, Miguel, Manoel, Francisca II, Roza, Maria, and an child, name unknown? Then there is marriage 3. I have 15 or 16 children in this group (there are 2 Maria's that I haven't figure out if they are one). I have found the marriages for Manoel da Costa, Maria Furtado, and Joze Furtado. I may still hit some of the later born children in the rest of the marriage group that goes to 1787. Did many of these people die young? I guess we won't know that until we get into the obitos. But, it seems there should be so many children marrying and having children. They should be all over Achada. So, if they lived to adulthood, where did they go? A final note on Joze Furtado's baptismal record. His parents are both listed as natives of Achada. I will have to go through this baptismal group to see if all those named as his siblings all have parents natives of Achada. If this group really belongs to the Miguel do Monte with 3 wives, the father should be listed as a native of Achadinha and the mother from Agua Retorta, right? Maybe one of the do Monte researchers has found the marriages that I haven't seen? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
What I did was to look through Ernesto do Canto Index for every MONTE I could find in Achada and Achadinha marriages (still doing Achadinha). So far I have found: - Achada: Miguel do Monte to (…?...) Furtado. From another marriage I learned that the wemen kept the mother name Furtado. There is a marrying Domingas Furtado daughter of the same parents. Her mother was a Furtado. Also in the re-marriage of Miguel (1725) to Maria da Costa we learn that she was named Maria Furtado as her mother was. - Achadinha: Pedro Furtado or Pedro de Araújo to a Maria do Monte; the same Pedro remarying Maria de Santo André after his first wife passed away); Manuel de Arruda sono f Manuel do Monte marrying Teresa de Paiva; ângela de Medeiros born in Porto Formoso daughter of Pedro de Araújo and Maria do Monte (much likely the first Pedro I mentioned) Then we know the MONTE from Mais and Porto Formoso áreas and the MONTE from Ribeira Seca da Ribeira Grande… All these MONTE are related... A remark – I have came across some MONTE that were originaly MONTEIRO. Sometimes the abbreviation of MONTEIRO looks like MONTE… I will keep piling up them!!! Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
JR, In case of any good Ana do Monte married to Bento Pacheco Raposo is refered in Rodrigo Rodrigues, chapter 24, paragrapf 12, Descendancy of Pedro Vieira da Silva. Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
Thank you for the information Eliseu. Miguel's Obito and his stated age of about 80 years, is more in accord with the birthdate of Miguel in 1734 who was born to Miguel Monte and Maria da Costa. So it is definitely worth looking for a second Miguel Monte. JR On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:32:28 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: JR, In case of any good Ana do Monte married to Bento Pacheco Raposo is refered in Rodrigo Rodrigues, chapter 24, paragrapf 12, Descendancy of Pedro Vieira da Silva. *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
I looked at Canto Index, Achada and did not found any other MONTE but Miguel… I will continue to Achadinha… De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de JR Enviada: quarta-feira, 4 de Junho de 2014 22:42 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho? Thank you for the information Eliseu. Miguel's Obito and his stated age of about 80 years, is more in accord with the birthdate of Miguel in 1734 who was born to Miguel Monte and Maria da Costa. So it is definitely worth looking for a second Miguel Monte. JR On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:32:28 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: JR, In case of any good Ana do Monte married to Bento Pacheco Raposo is refered in Rodrigo Rodrigues, chapter 24, paragrapf 12, Descendancy of Pedro Vieira da Silva. Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
I worked in Achadinha last night. I got nothing in the Baptismals 1714-1718 or so. So, I switched to the marriages. Here is the record that John mentioned. The marriage for the sister of Maria do Monte: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-C-1701-1796/SMG-ND-ACHADINHA-C-1701-1796_item1/P19.html I went from 1701-1709, I think (have to check the last page on my table). I was surprised to find no other do Monte's or children of Bertholomeu and Barbara. What I did find interesting is the Cura of this church is Manoel do Monte. I wonder if that is where the surname came from for this family. I have seen children in this era who took the surname of a Godparent rather than one of their own parents. On a side note: I decided to note all the marriages in the 1745-1787 range. The records are difficult to read at times so I decided taking simple notes on each would be better than going back for other couples later. So far I've done 1745-1775. I have not seen another Miguel do Monte.In 1801, Miguel do Monte son of Antonio do Monte (the one from Nordestinho) married Leonarda de Faria. He died before 1809 as I found a marriage for Leonarda, widow of Miguel do Monte, remarried to Matheus de Medeiros Simas in Achada 1809. It's good to have this information because we can be sure that the obito I listed yesterday for Miguel do Monte who died in 1810 is not this one who is the son of Antonio do Monte. I think John is right that it may be the one born in 1734. On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:45:32 PM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: I looked at Canto Index, Achada and did not found any other MONTE but Miguel… I will continue to Achadinha… *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *Em nome de *JR *Enviada:* quarta-feira, 4 de Junho de 2014 22:42 *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho? Thank you for the information Eliseu. Miguel's Obito and his stated age of about 80 years, is more in accord with the birthdate of Miguel in 1734 who was born to Miguel Monte and Maria da Costa. So it is definitely worth looking for a second Miguel Monte. JR On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:32:28 AM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: JR, In case of any good Ana do Monte married to Bento Pacheco Raposo is refered in Rodrigo Rodrigues, chapter 24, paragrapf 12, Descendancy of Pedro Vieira da Silva. *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
Hi! Do you have ANA DO MONTE married to Bento Pacheco Raposo, Maia 16.5.1774, as daughter of Miguel do Monte anda Maria da Costa? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
Yes Eliseu, this Ana do monte is the same person. Ana do Monte was born in Achada, Dec 8-1740 and baptised, Dec 11, 1740. Padrinhos- Joam Rabello e sua mulher Maria Pacheca JR On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:06:25 PM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi! Do you have ANA DO MONTE married to Bento Pacheco Raposo, Maia 16.5.1774, as daughter of Miguel do Monte anda Maria da Costa? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
I do not have Ana do Monte, so this one is new for me (despite having numerous children for these people) On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:06:25 PM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi! Do you have ANA DO MONTE married to Bento Pacheco Raposo, Maia 16.5.1774, as daughter of Miguel do Monte anda Maria da Costa? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
I forgot to add link to Miguel, son of Miguel Monte and Teresa Furtada http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1/P21.html On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:01:14 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: I do not have Ana do Monte, so this one is new for me (despite having numerous children for these people) On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:06:25 PM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi! Do you have ANA DO MONTE married to Bento Pacheco Raposo, Maia 16.5.1774, as daughter of Miguel do Monte anda Maria da Costa? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
Not my day. Of course I meant Miguel is the son of Miguel Monte and second spouse, Maria da Costa (married Nov 5, 1725), not Teresa Furtado. So after all these mistakes, and bopping my head a few times, I re-examined the Canto index on Achada that Cheri Mello gave us years ago, and here is one entry which is probably Miguel do Monte and Maria Furtada. Jan 17-1717, Achada Miguel ...__ filho de Batholomeu da Costa native Achadinha e Barbara ...__ com ...__ filha de Domingos Vaz e Maria Furtada When I was researching my Paiva Achada-Achadinha ancestors years ago I also collected other marriages and guess what names came up? Feb 4- 1707, Maria do Monte native of Achadinha filha de Bartolomeu da Costa and Barbara de Paiva com Pedro Furtado, filho de Manuel Carvalho e Catarina Furtado nats of Maia. So Bartolomeu Costa and Barbara Paiva are the parents of Miguel do Monte. JR http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1%2FP21.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGXg6XbMwUvi4WKoqvT6RzjdK1ANA JR On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:09:39 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: I forgot to add link to Miguel, son of Miguel Monte and Teresa Furtada http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1/P21.html http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1%2FP21.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGXg6XbMwUvi4WKoqvT6RzjdK1ANA On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:01:14 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: I do not have Ana do Monte, so this one is new for me (despite having numerous children for these people) On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:06:25 PM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi! Do you have ANA DO MONTE married to Bento Pacheco Raposo, Maia 16.5.1774, as daughter of Miguel do Monte anda Maria da Costa? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?
I had just gone off to find the marriage of Miguel do Monte and Maria da Costa in 1725! I did find it. A jumbly sort of mess at the bottom of this page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P125.html I see you have more information for me. So, Maria do Monte's marriage shows that that Miguel do Monte is probably the son of Bartholomeu da Costa and Barbara de Paiva. This marriage you listed must be to Maria Furtada who died 9 Aug 1725. All I can say is he certainly was prolific. Now my job is to try to figure out if Antonio do Monte fits in this family or not. I am going to throw one wrench into the works. I found an Obito for Miguel do Monte marred to Thereza Furtado in 1810. His son, Jose Miguel Furtado, was the informant (or whatever it is referred to at the bottom of the document) I'm not sure about his age. It is either 70 or 80. There isn't much information except a margin note that a copy was made in 1812. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1809-1845/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1809-1845_item1/P20.html I found Thereza's Obito in 1806. She is 70 years old. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1781-1809/SMG-ND-ACHADA-O-1781-1809_item1/P119.html It is very possible that the son of Miguel do Monte I married a woman with a similar name because Furtado's are all over Achada. Still, it confuses matters. On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:40:47 PM UTC-7, JR wrote: Not my day. Of course I meant Miguel is the son of Miguel Monte and second spouse, Maria da Costa (married Nov 5, 1725), not Teresa Furtado. So after all these mistakes, and bopping my head a few times, I re-examined the Canto index on Achada that Cheri Mello gave us years ago, and here is one entry which is probably Miguel do Monte and Maria Furtada. Jan 17-1717, Achada Miguel ...__ filho de Batholomeu da Costa native Achadinha e Barbara ...__ com ...__ filha de Domingos Vaz e Maria Furtada When I was researching my Paiva Achada-Achadinha ancestors years ago I also collected other marriages and guess what names came up? Feb 4- 1707, Maria do Monte native of Achadinha filha de Bartolomeu da Costa and Barbara de Paiva com Pedro Furtado, filho de Manuel Carvalho e Catarina Furtado nats of Maia. So Bartolomeu Costa and Barbara Paiva are the parents of Miguel do Monte. JR http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1%2FP21.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGXg6XbMwUvi4WKoqvT6RzjdK1ANA JR On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:09:39 PM UTC-4, JR wrote: I forgot to add link to Miguel, son of Miguel Monte and Teresa Furtada http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750/SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1/P21.html http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fculturacores.azores.gov.pt%2Fbiblioteca_digital%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750%2FSMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1732-1750_item1%2FP21.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGXg6XbMwUvi4WKoqvT6RzjdK1ANA On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:01:14 PM UTC-4, IslandRoutes wrote: I do not have Ana do Monte, so this one is new for me (despite having numerous children for these people) On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 3:06:25 PM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: Hi! Do you have ANA DO MONTE married to Bento Pacheco Raposo, Maia 16.5.1774, as daughter of Miguel do Monte anda Maria da Costa? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.