date:20170320

the record no. 241, Victoria.

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Hello Julzz,
>
> Here's a summary:
>
> The names coincide with the exception of Alexandrina's second name is
> Gloria on the record instead of Jesus, as shown on (1.)
>
> Marriage Record N.o 27
> Dated, 18th of August of the year 1884
>
> Jose d'Arruda Falcao and Alexandrina da Glora Correa
>
> The groom, 29 years old, single, farmer, legitimate son of Joao d'Arruda,
> natural of the Parish of Nossa Senhora das Neves of the Relva place, and of
> Maria de Jesus, natural of the Parish of Sao Jose of the city of Ponta
> Delgada.
> The bride, 18 years old, with her father's consent, single, domestic,
> legitimate daughter of Jose Correa and Maria de Jesus, naturals of this
> parish of Arrifes, where the celebrants were born and reside.
>
> I also checked the birth records and find that the child of this couple
> you referred to as Maria Victoria, was actually named "Victoria"  The
> margin notes confirm the obit of her husband in 1963.
>
> Record # 245 Victoria (left side)
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112.html
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:28 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello I need help translating a marriage record. I think i finally found
>> Jose and Alexandrina's De Arruda. My eyes are not what they should be and i
>> am having problems reading their parents names as well as the date they
>> married. I feel silly because it is a pretty clear yet light writing, so i
>> am struggling.
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19.html
>>
>>
>> Julzz
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 20, 2007 at 10:01:50 AM UTC-7, julz...@sbcglobal.net
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well it has been a while sense I have tried to research this line of
>>> my family so I thought I would try again. I have noticed a lot of
>>> conversation on Sao Miguel and thought I would put this out there.
>>> This part of my family is a big mystrey. Any help would be wonderful.
>>> Thanks so much for your help.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am looking for any information on this family.
>>> Julzz
>>>
>>> Generation No. 1
>>>
>>> 1. JOSE1 D'ARRUDA was born in Sao Miguel. He married ALEXANDRINA DE
>>> JESUS CORREIA. She was born in Sao Miguel.
>>>
>>> Children of JOSE D'ARRUDA and ALEXANDRINA CORREIA are:
>>> 2. i. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA, b. November 25, 1890, Arriffe, Sao
>>> Miguel Azores Portugal; d. October 12, 1972, Fall River,
>>> Massachusetts.
>>> ii. MARY, m. PAVAO.
>>>
>>>
>>> Generation No. 2
>>>
>>> 2. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA (JOSE1) was born November 25, 1890 in
>>> Arriffe, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal, and died October 12, 1972 in Fall
>>> River, Massachusetts. She married ELIAS DE FREITAS SILVEIRA February
>>> 17, 1911 in Married in Espirito Santo Church, Fall River MA , son of
>>> FRANCISCO LAINHAS and ISABEL D'AVILA. He was born June 13, 1873 in
>>> Faja do Bello, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge, Azores Portugal, and died
>>> December 19, 1963 in Ferreira, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge.
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation

2017-03-20 Thread Julie Marsh

hi Linda, I didnt mean to post twice but Margaret helped me already but it was 
#27. Thank you any ways.Julzz 

On Monday, March 20, 2017 7:03 PM, linda  wrote:
 

 Hi Julzz,

Which record are you interested in, #27 or # 28?

Linda

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 5:30:23 PM UTC-7, Julzzy66 wrote:
Hello everyone, 
It is nice to be back researching my bio family and I think I just broke a wall 
I have had for a long time. My Arruda line from Arriffe Sao Miguel. 
I need some help with the dates and names of the parents. I want to make sure 
what I am seeing is what is there. 
http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- 
PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD- ARRIFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19. html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ENOS/ENES VARGAS CONCORD, CA

2017-03-20 Thread E. Sharp

I had an Aunt Emma.  Her birth name was Mary. She was the 2nd Mary in the 
family so they called her Emma
"E"

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 3/20/2017


Thanks Jeremy,

very much appreciated!

:)

Linda


On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 3:35:52 PM UTC-7, Jeremy G. B-C wrote:
>
> Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts 
> (demographics) of a study that I have.  
>
> I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the statistical 
> information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has Ribeira Seca 
> ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
> I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.
>
> Please *download *the .pdf file by clicking:
>
> 
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0=1
>
> *This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time 3/20/2016*
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jeremy
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 3/20/2017

2017-03-20 Thread Louie Avila

Thanks Jeremy!

This really made me think ...

Louie

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-20 Thread John Vasconcelos

*Great idea Cheri, we need to figure out how to get them to you. Susan, I
was thinking about maybe donating them to the Freitas Library (after Cheri
gets them filmed), but after what you said, maybe I can donate them to a
Kings County historical organization of some type so it would be available
locally. I recall that Arlene Vierra Marcoux (who was born in the Hanford
Area), published her family genealogy and donated a copy to the Turlare
County Library which apparantly agreed to take that into their collection..
I found Arlene's mother in the SPRSI books I have. So I'll copy her and get
her input. *
*John *

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> John, I think you should give them to me so I can take them to Salt Lake
> to be filmed. Then they will have world wide distribution.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:32 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have been wondering the same thing John! I would not give them to these
>> organizations that have taken in the SPRSI and the others (Luso and
>> PFSA) I just don't think they will be interested in sharing the
>> information with people who are searching. This is just my intuition, not
>> based on any inquiry. I did try to find info on one of the men's groups
>> once and the person I talked to was not cooperative.
>>
>> I have thought about the Freitas Library as I think they allow others to
>> look at them (I know Kathy Cardoza went there many years ago and got access
>> to UPEC)
>> I have also thought about the Portuguese History Museum in San Jose but
>> don't know exactly what their focus is.
>>
>> I'm leaning on giving what I have to the Museum of Local History in
>> Mission San Jose as I like the idea of keeping them within the community
>> where these women lived and think that those who are really interested will
>> probably access their collection.
>>
>> I was responsible for my mom's cousin who died last year at age 95. She
>> had all the scrap books and the flag used in parades and the regalia that
>> they wore at meetings. I have already given them the flag and am making
>> arrangements right now to give the regalia. I hope to give the books also
>> but am not quite ready to give them up;)
>>
>> I am concerned for the legacy of the books... That is why I bothered to
>> carry them to Salt Lake to be microfilmed. That makes me feel good to know
>> if someone really searches, they will find them!
>>
>> Susan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:58 PM, John Vasconcelos  wrote:
>>
>>
>> *Susan and Celeste,*
>>
>> *My aunt, Maria E. Vasconcelos Sousa was a member and for many years, an
>> officer of Council 42 of the SRPSI in Hanford from at least 1916, until her
>> death in 1957. I have some two of her minutes books: one from 1916 to 1924
>> and the other from 1934 to 1941. Wondering to which organization I should
>> donate them to,John Vasconcelos *
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do Estado do
>>> California (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal organization
>>> (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the only organization I put into a database.  I think
>>> the S.P.R.S.I. joined Luso.
>>>
>>>  The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one other
>>> organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal Society of America.)
>>>
>>> The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I., (probably 20 years
>>> ago) I was told the "old" records were somewhere in their basement and they
>>> could not locate them.
>>> Celeste
>>> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>>>
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
>>>  To: azores@googlegroups.com
>>>  Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
>>>
>>>  Celeste Perry had some,
>>>  but I don't remember which ladies organization.
>>>  Hopefully she'll answer soon.
>>>  On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
>>>  AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
>>>  wrote:
>>>  Does anyone know if and
>>>  where any existing records for SPRSI might be found?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the
>>>  state President at one time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Lisa Caetano Harley
>>>
>>>  researching Pico & Sao Jorge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 3/20/2017

2017-03-20 Thread nancy jean baptiste

Very interesting. I think this same type of inheritance still occurs.

Nancy Jean

From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Mary Bordi 

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 6:53 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 
3/20/2017

Thank you Jeremy! I've just skimmed the first few pages.

The only ancestors I have on paper from Ribeira Seca were from the early 1700s 
but I must share DNA with some who still live there. At any rate, I am 
fascinated with the history and social aspects of the island and I suppose many 
of those were similar in Ribeira Seca and the freguesia my ancestors moved to 
(Norte Grande).

And thanks to the gentleman who researched, wrote it and shared.

Mary

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:35 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
> wrote:
Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts (demographics) of 
a study that I have.

I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the statistical 
information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has Ribeira Seca 
ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.

Please download the .pdf file by clicking:

https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0=1

This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time 3/20/2016

Thank you,

Jeremy

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Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 6:53:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 
3/20/2017

Thank you Jeremy! I've just skimmed the first few pages.

The only ancestors I have on paper from Ribeira Seca were from the early 1700s 
but I must share DNA with some who still live there. At any rate, I am 
fascinated with the history and social aspects of the island and I suppose many 
of those were similar in Ribeira Seca and the freguesia my ancestors moved to 
(Norte Grande).

And thanks to the gentleman who researched, wrote it and shared.

Mary

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:35 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
> wrote:
Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts (demographics) of 
a study that I have.

I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the statistical 
information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has Ribeira Seca 
ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.

Please download the .pdf file by clicking:

https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0=1

This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time 3/20/2016

Thank you,

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito, Santa Maria - an unfamiliar last name?

2017-03-20 Thread George Sousa

Thank you Margaret! This is the first time I've seen this reference. 

George

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 8:49 PM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi George,
> 
> It's not a last name, it is her status qualification.  Instead of saying 
> "single" the priest wrote " Sui Juris" which means "independent" person
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:09 PM, George Sousa  wrote:
>> I would appreciate your help with this. Can anyone make out the last name of 
>> the paternal grandmother of Antonia (last entry on the right)?
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1825-1851/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1825-1851_item1/P245.html
>> 
>> 
>> Here is what I have... "Antonia filha de Jose Maria d'Braga e sua mulher 
>> Antonia Jacintha de Chaves, Moradores em Nossa Senhora da Gloria termo desta 
>> Parochial d'Nossa Senhora da Purificacao desta Ilha de Santa Maria netta 
>> paterna de Vitorina Rosa ? e de Pai oculto e materno de Jose Maria de Braga 
>> e Maria Jacintha de Chaves todo naturaes desta dita Parochial; nasceo aos 
>> desoito de Julho de mil oito centos quarenta tres foi batisado pelo 
>> Reverendo Cura desta Parochial Antonio Jose Tavares em vinte sette do dito 
>> mes e anno forao Padrinhos Jose Maria de Braga irmao da mae do Baptisado, e 
>> Vitorina de Resendes Casa digo moradores no Panasco, foram testemunhas..."
>> 
>> It's an unfamiliar last name. If you would like a second place to look at 
>> her name it can be found in the marriage record of the child's parents 
>> (entry on the left page).
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1820-1842/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1820-1842_item1/P86.html
>> 
>> Any help with this name would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> George
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arruda/Correia, Sao Miguel

Hello Julzz,

Here's a summary:

The names coincide with the exception of Alexandrina's second name is
Gloria on the record instead of Jesus, as shown on (1.)

Marriage Record N.o 27
Dated, 18th of August of the year 1884

Jose d'Arruda Falcao and Alexandrina da Glora Correa

The groom, 29 years old, single, farmer, legitimate son of Joao d'Arruda,
natural of the Parish of Nossa Senhora das Neves of the Relva place, and of
Maria de Jesus, natural of the Parish of Sao Jose of the city of Ponta
Delgada.
The bride, 18 years old, with her father's consent, single, domestic,
legitimate daughter of Jose Correa and Maria de Jesus, naturals of this
parish of Arrifes, where the celebrants were born and reside.

I also checked the birth records and find that the child of this couple you
referred to as Maria Victoria, was actually named "Victoria"  The margin
notes confirm the obit of her husband in 1963.

Record # 245 Victoria (left side)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112.html


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:28 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello I need help translating a marriage record. I think i finally found
> Jose and Alexandrina's De Arruda. My eyes are not what they should be and i
> am having problems reading their parents names as well as the date they
> married. I feel silly because it is a pretty clear yet light writing, so i
> am struggling.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
> ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19.html
>
>
> Julzz
>
>
> On Friday, July 20, 2007 at 10:01:50 AM UTC-7, julz...@sbcglobal.net
> wrote:
>>
>> Well it has been a while sense I have tried to research this line of
>> my family so I thought I would try again. I have noticed a lot of
>> conversation on Sao Miguel and thought I would put this out there.
>> This part of my family is a big mystrey. Any help would be wonderful.
>> Thanks so much for your help.
>>
>>
>> I am looking for any information on this family.
>> Julzz
>>
>> Generation No. 1
>>
>> 1. JOSE1 D'ARRUDA was born in Sao Miguel. He married ALEXANDRINA DE
>> JESUS CORREIA. She was born in Sao Miguel.
>>
>> Children of JOSE D'ARRUDA and ALEXANDRINA CORREIA are:
>> 2. i. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA, b. November 25, 1890, Arriffe, Sao
>> Miguel Azores Portugal; d. October 12, 1972, Fall River,
>> Massachusetts.
>> ii. MARY, m. PAVAO.
>>
>>
>> Generation No. 2
>>
>> 2. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA (JOSE1) was born November 25, 1890 in
>> Arriffe, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal, and died October 12, 1972 in Fall
>> River, Massachusetts. She married ELIAS DE FREITAS SILVEIRA February
>> 17, 1911 in Married in Espirito Santo Church, Fall River MA , son of
>> FRANCISCO LAINHAS and ISABEL D'AVILA. He was born June 13, 1873 in
>> Faja do Bello, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge, Azores Portugal, and died
>> December 19, 1963 in Ferreira, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose da Silva b 1833 Faial to Long Island, NY

2017-03-20 Thread 'Guida Leicester' via Azores Genealogy

Repost for Donna Scott, donnascott764 at gmail.com

Jose da Silva, b. about 1833, city?, Faial, Azores - shanghaied age 14 and
brough aboad a cargo bark to Long Island, NY

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records

2017-03-20 Thread 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy

John,

Tulare does have a good genealogy section for their library. So, does the 
downtown Fresno County Library with it's California section (although I had 
heard that it might move or maybe has moved to the new, larger Woodward Park 
Library. ) Just another option if the others don't pan out. 

Gayle



> On Mar 20, 2017, at 1:55 PM, John Vasconcelos  wrote:
> 
> Great idea Cheri, we need to figure out how to get them to you. Susan, I was 
> thinking about maybe donating them to the Freitas Library (after Cheri gets 
> them filmed), but after what you said, maybe I can donate them to a Kings 
> County historical organization of some type so it would be available locally. 
> I recall that Arlene Vierra Marcoux (who was born in the Hanford Area), 
> published her family genealogy and donated a copy to the Turlare County 
> Library which apparantly agreed to take that into their collection.. I found 
> Arlene's mother in the SPRSI books I have. So I'll copy her and get her 
> input. 
> John 
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> John, I think you should give them to me so I can take them to Salt Lake to 
>> be filmed. Then they will have world wide distribution.
>> 
>> Cheri
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:32 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> I have been wondering the same thing John! I would not give them to these 
>>> organizations that have taken in the SPRSI and the others (Luso and 
>>> PFSA) I just don't think they will be interested in sharing the 
>>> information with people who are searching. This is just my intuition, not 
>>> based on any inquiry. I did try to find info on one of the men's groups 
>>> once and the person I talked to was not cooperative.
>>> 
>>> I have thought about the Freitas Library as I think they allow others to 
>>> look at them (I know Kathy Cardoza went there many years ago and got access 
>>> to UPEC) 
>>> I have also thought about the Portuguese History Museum in San Jose but 
>>> don't know exactly what their focus is.
>>> 
>>> I'm leaning on giving what I have to the Museum of Local History in Mission 
>>> San Jose as I like the idea of keeping them within the community where 
>>> these women lived and think that those who are really interested will 
>>> probably access their collection. 
>>> 
>>> I was responsible for my mom's cousin who died last year at age 95. She had 
>>> all the scrap books and the flag used in parades and the regalia that they 
>>> wore at meetings. I have already given them the flag and am making 
>>> arrangements right now to give the regalia. I hope to give the books also 
>>> but am not quite ready to give them up;)
>>> 
>>> I am concerned for the legacy of the books... That is why I bothered to 
>>> carry them to Salt Lake to be microfilmed. That makes me feel good to know 
>>> if someone really searches, they will find them! 
>>> 
>>> Susan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:58 PM, John Vasconcelos  wrote:
 
 Susan and Celeste,
 My aunt, Maria E. Vasconcelos Sousa was a member and for many years, an 
 officer of Council 42 of the SRPSI in Hanford from at least 1916, until 
 her death in 1957. I have some two of her minutes books: one from 1916 to 
 1924  and the other from 1934 to 1941. Wondering to which organization I 
 should donate them to,
 John Vasconcelos 
 
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:37 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> The death records for the Union Portuguese Protetorda do Estado do 
> California (not sure of spelling) is the fraternal organization 
> (U.P.P.E.C.) and was the only organization I put into a database.  I 
> think the S.P.R.S.I. joined Luso.
> 
>  The U.P.P.E.C., the U.P.E.C., the I.D.E.S. and I think one other 
> organization became P.F.S.A. (Portuguese Fraternal Society of America.)
> 
> The one time I attempted to look at the S.P.R.S.I., (probably 20 years 
> ago) I was told the "old" records were somewhere in their basement and 
> they could not locate them.
> Celeste
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> On Sun, 3/19/17, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SPRSI Records
>  To: azores@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Sunday, March 19, 2017, 4:15 PM
> 
>  Celeste Perry had some,
>  but I don't remember which ladies organization.
>  Hopefully she'll answer soon.
>  On Mar 19, 2017 8:15
>  AM, "lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy" 
>  wrote:
>  Does anyone know if and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arruda/Correia, Sao Miguel

2017-03-20 Thread Julie Marsh

Victoria and her husband Elias are my great grand parents. So I am very happy
about finally finding them. Thank you again so much for the translation.
Julzz

On Monday, March 20, 2017 6:54 PM, Margaret Vicente
wrote:

Hello Julzz,
Here's a summary:
The names coincide with the exception of Alexandrina's second name is Gloria on
the record instead of Jesus, as shown on (1.)
Marriage Record N.o 27 Dated, 18th of August of the year 1884

Jose d'Arruda Falcao and Alexandrina da Glora Correa
The groom, 29 years old, single, farmer, legitimate son of Joao d'Arruda,
natural of the Parish of Nossa Senhora das Neves of the Relva place, and of
Maria de Jesus, natural of the Parish of Sao Jose of the city of Ponta
Delgada.The bride, 18 years old, with her father's consent, single, domestic,
legitimate daughter of Jose Correa and Maria de Jesus, naturals of this parish
of Arrifes, where the celebrants were born and reside.
I also checked the birth records and find that the child of this couple you
referred to as Maria Victoria, was actually named "Victoria" The margin notes
confirm the obit of her husband in 1963.
Record # 245 Victoria (left side)
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-ARRIFES-B-1890-1899_item1/P112.html

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:28 PM, 'Julzzy66' via Azores Genealogy
wrote:

Hello I need help translating a marriage record. I think i finally found Jose
and Alexandrina's De Arruda. My eyes are not what they should be and i am
having problems reading their parents names as well as the date they married. I
feel silly because it is a pretty clear yet light writing, so i am struggling.
http://culturacores.azores.gov .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD-ARR IFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19.htm l

Julzz

On Friday, July 20, 2007 at 10:01:50 AM UTC-7, julz...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Well it has been a while sense I have tried to research this line of
my family so I thought I would try again. I have noticed a lot of
conversation on Sao Miguel and thought I would put this out there.
This part of my family is a big mystrey. Any help would be wonderful.
Thanks so much for your help.
I am looking for any information on this family.
JulzzGeneration No. 11. JOSE1 D'ARRUDA was born in Sao Miguel. He married
ALEXANDRINA DE
JESUS CORREIA. She was born in Sao Miguel.Children of JOSE D'ARRUDA and
ALEXANDRINA CORREIA are:
2. i. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA, b. November 25, 1890, Arriffe, Sao
Miguel Azores Portugal; d. October 12, 1972, Fall River,
Massachusetts.
ii. MARY, m. PAVAO.
Generation No. 22. MARIA VICTORIA2 D'ARRUDA (JOSE1) was born November 25, 1890
in
Arriffe, Sao Miguel Azores Portugal, and died October 12, 1972 in Fall
River, Massachusetts. She married ELIAS DE FREITAS SILVEIRA February
17, 1911 in Married in Espirito Santo Church, Fall River MA , son of
FRANCISCO LAINHAS and ISABEL D'AVILA. He was born June 13, 1873 in
Faja do Bello, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge, Azores Portugal, and died
December 19, 1963 in Ferreira, Rebeira Seca, Sao Jorge.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 3/20/2017

2017-03-20 Thread Marilyn Thompson

Thank you, I have only read about 5 pages so far. I am anxious to read the
rest of it.

Thank you for sharing


On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 6:57 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Very interesting. I think this same type of inheritance still occurs.
>
>
> Nancy Jean
>
>
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> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY
> 3/20/2017
>
> Thank you Jeremy! I've just skimmed the first few pages.
>
> The only ancestors I have on paper from Ribeira Seca were from the early
> 1700s but I must share DNA with some who still live there. At any rate, I
> am fascinated with the history and social aspects of the island and I
> suppose many of those were similar in Ribeira Seca and the freguesia my
> ancestors moved to (Norte Grande).
>
> And thanks to the gentleman who researched, wrote it and shared.
>
> Mary
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:35 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts
>> (demographics) of a study that I have.
>>
>> I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the
>> statistical information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has
>> Ribeira Seca ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
>> I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.
>>
>> Please *download *the .pdf file by clicking:
>>
>> 
>> https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%
>> 20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0=1
>>
>> *This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time
>> 3/20/2016*
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jeremy
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> Thank you Jeremy! I've just skimmed the first few pages.
>
> The only ancestors I have on paper from Ribeira Seca were from the early
> 1700s but I must share DNA with some who still live there. At any rate, I
> am fascinated with the history and social aspects of the island and I
> suppose many of those were similar in Ribeira Seca and the freguesia my
> ancestors moved to (Norte Grande).
>
> And thanks to the gentleman who researched, wrote it and shared.
>
> Mary
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:35 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts
>> (demographics) of a study that I have.
>>
>> I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the
>> statistical information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has
>> Ribeira Seca ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
>> I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.
>>
>> Please *download *the .pdf file by clicking:
>>
>> 
>> https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%
>> 20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0=1
>>
>> *This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time
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>> Thank you,
>>
>> Jeremy
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation

2017-03-20 Thread linda meneses

No worries :D

I saw what had happened when I read the next thread in the group, and I
deleted my question.  Very glad that you got the help you needed!

Linda

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Julie Marsh  wrote:

> hi Linda,
> I didnt mean to post twice but Margaret helped me already but it was #27.
> Thank you any ways.
> Julzz
>
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 7:03 PM, linda  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Julzz,
>
> Which record are you interested in, #27 or # 28?
>
> Linda
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 5:30:23 PM UTC-7, Julzzy66 wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> It is nice to be back researching my bio family and I think I just broke a
> wall I have had for a long time. My Arruda line from Arriffe Sao Miguel.
>
> I need some help with the dates and names of the parents. I want to make
> sure what I am seeing is what is there.
>
> http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-ARRIFES-C-1884-1886/SMG-PD- ARRIFES-C-1884-1886_item1/P19. html
> 
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 3/20/2017

Great info, cuz!! Thanks again for this info! How are you? Hope all is
well...Guida Guida Leicester Diversity and Inclusion Specialist UNM Global
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On Monday, March 20, 2017 4:35 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy
wrote:

Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts (demographics) of
a study that I have.
I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the statistical
information included is absolutely fascinating. If anyone has Ribeira Seca
ancestry in particular it is a great aid.I ask only that you not make this file
available outside this group.

Please download the .pdf file by clicking:
https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0=1

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: SPRSI Records

2017-03-20 Thread Mary

I would be interested in seeing early records of other organizations such 
as UPPEC,  SPRSI and  IDES. These organizations seem to have been more 
popular with my family. I found an great uncle because I spotted my 
grandfathe'rs name as his beneficiary in one of the UPPEC books. I 
havestill  a couple of unmarried people that I am unsure of  their relation 
to me. I do know they were active in  Portuguese organizations. Possible 
beneficiary information might clear this up.
Thank You,
Mary Valadares Kaplan

On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 8:15:43 AM UTC-7, Lisach wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if and where any existing records for SPRSI might be 
> found? 
>
> My great grandmother Maria Azevedo Chipman was the state President at one 
> time.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Lisa Caetano Harley
> researching Pico & Sao Jorge
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Demographic Study DOWNLOAD BY 3/20/2017

2017-03-20 Thread Mary Bordi

Thank you Jeremy! I've just skimmed the first few pages.

The only ancestors I have on paper from Ribeira Seca were from the early
1700s but I must share DNA with some who still live there. At any rate, I
am fascinated with the history and social aspects of the island and I
suppose many of those were similar in Ribeira Seca and the freguesia my
ancestors moved to (Norte Grande).

And thanks to the gentleman who researched, wrote it and shared.

Mary

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:35 PM 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Per your requests, I am making available the pertinent parts
> (demographics) of a study that I have.
>
> I hope that you will find it interesting - I think some of the statistical
> information included is absolutely fascinating.  If anyone has Ribeira Seca
> ancestry in particular it is a great aid.
> I ask only that you not make this file available outside this group.
>
> Please *download *the .pdf file by clicking:
>
> 
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/azoreangravestones/Sao%20Jorge%20Demographics.pdf?attredirects=0=1
>
> *This link will be deactivated at 12:00:00 Midnight Pacific Time 3/20/2016*
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jeremy
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito, Santa Maria - an unfamiliar last name?

Hi George,

It's not a last name, it is her status qualification.  Instead of saying
"single" the priest wrote " Sui Juris" which means "independent" person

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 7:09 PM, George Sousa 
wrote:

> I would appreciate your help with this. Can anyone make out the last name
> of the paternal grandmother of Antonia (last entry on the right)?
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1825-1851/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1825-
> 1851_item1/P245.html
>
>
> Here is what I have... "Antonia filha de Jose Maria d'Braga e sua mulher
> Antonia Jacintha de Chaves, Moradores em Nossa Senhora da Gloria termo
> desta Parochial d'Nossa Senhora da Purificacao desta Ilha de Santa Maria
> netta paterna de Vitorina Rosa ? e de Pai oculto e materno de Jose Maria de
> Braga e Maria Jacintha de Chaves todo naturaes desta dita Parochial; nasceo
> aos desoito de Julho de mil oito centos quarenta tres foi batisado pelo
> Reverendo Cura desta Parochial Antonio Jose Tavares em vinte sette do dito
> mes e anno forao Padrinhos Jose Maria de Braga irmao da mae do Baptisado, e
> Vitorina de Resendes Casa digo moradores no Panasco, foram testemunhas..."
>
> It's an unfamiliar last name. If you would like a second place to look at
> her name it can be found in the marriage record of the child's parents
> (entry on the left page).
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1820-1842/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-C-1820-
> 1842_item1/P86.html
>
> Any help with this name would be greatly appreciated.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: July 5 1900 New York Passenger list from the Peninsular from Faial-Adelaide Augusta from Rieberas, Pico and Maria Ignacia from Santo Amaro,Pico

I was just looking at that census record...I saved it and will keep 
following leads.  Thank you so much.  

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 11:38:08 AM UTC-6, linda wrote:
>
> I can see Machado in the second instance.  But overall, the middle name 
> looks a little more like Medeira/Maduda/Madura to me.
>
> Maybe this fellow?
>
> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9P9-KYY
>
> best of luck!
>
> Linda
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:04:26 AM UTC-7, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>>
>> I am having trouble reading all the name of the man who this girl and her 
>> grandmother are going to see.  They say they are going to Hayward, 
>> California.   They are both going to see the same man.  Two lines are 
>> repeated for each traveler.
>>
>> I believe it is Thome [Med] Medeiros of San Francisco.  I don't have 
>> a guess about the middle name.  
>> He is the uncle of the 15 year old girl, Adelaide Augusta and he is the 
>> son of 61 year old Maria Ignacia.
>>
>>
>> Can someone help me with the name of this man named in the attached 
>> "snip" from the passenger list?
>>
>> And below is the link for the whole record if that helps.  They are on 
>> lines 28 and 29.
>>
>>
>> http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYT715_139-0446/4037050587?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/37799168/person/180061306953/facts/citation/660251395477/edit/record
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much...
>> Evee
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records


Thanks so much.  Of course!-- I should have realized that there were too 
few baptismal notes for them to be relevant to marriages.  That makes much 
more sense.

I especially appreciate your explanation of the requirements for Army 
enlistment and travel in the period.  It's an area of which I'm vaguely 
aware but largely ignorant.

much appreciated!

Linda

  
On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:23:16 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> Hi Linda,
>
> Certifications on baptism at that time served, according to my own 
> experience, the same purpose as the obits ones did.  You will note that 
> only a few of the birth records were  certified.  Were they to be used as 
> proof of marriage, then most if not all records should have at least one 
> certification.
>
> Yes, it could be inheritance or other.  A good example of other, would be 
> "Army" enlistment.  Some times proof of death had to be provided on " 
> government issued drafts" because parents gave children the same first 
> names they used to draft even the "dead" ones.  Inter island/mainland 
> travel movement also required identification in those days
>
>   
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:05 PM, linda  
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Margaret-- that is fascinating.  
>>
>> I have a follow up question on Jeremy's original question.  I assume the 
>> certificates on the baptisms would have been issued in order to marry, and 
>> those on the obits would have been issued for purposes of inheritance.  Do 
>> you know if I'm safe in thinking so?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 9:42:47 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>>>
>>> Jermey, those are certifications.
>>>
>>> examplified:
>>>
>>> 1.a cer.dam fora
>>> 2.a via
>>>
>>> via is old writing for fora wich means "issued / extract" 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found 
 that every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little 
 Va/Via in the margin.

 Examples include:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html

 The same notation can be found in the villages death books:

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html

 This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what 
 the priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be 
 greatly appreciated.

 ,

 Jeremy
 Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: July 5 1900 New York Passenger list from the Peninsular from Faial-Adelaide Augusta from Rieberas, Pico and Maria Ignacia from Santo Amaro,Pico

good luck!

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:44:56 AM UTC-7, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
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> I was just looking at that census record...I saved it and will keep 
> following leads.  Thank you so much.  
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 11:38:08 AM UTC-6, linda wrote:
>>
>> I can see Machado in the second instance.  But overall, the middle name 
>> looks a little more like Medeira/Maduda/Madura to me.
>>
>> Maybe this fellow?
>>
>> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9P9-KYY
>>
>> best of luck!
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:04:26 AM UTC-7, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>>>
>>> I am having trouble reading all the name of the man who this girl and 
>>> her grandmother are going to see.  They say they are going to Hayward, 
>>> California.   They are both going to see the same man.  Two lines are 
>>> repeated for each traveler.
>>>
>>> I believe it is Thome [Med] Medeiros of San Francisco.  I don't have 
>>> a guess about the middle name.  
>>> He is the uncle of the 15 year old girl, Adelaide Augusta and he is the 
>>> son of 61 year old Maria Ignacia.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can someone help me with the name of this man named in the attached 
>>> "snip" from the passenger list?
>>>
>>> And below is the link for the whole record if that helps.  They are on 
>>> lines 28 and 29.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYT715_139-0446/4037050587?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/37799168/person/180061306953/facts/citation/660251395477/edit/record
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much...
>>> Evee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose de Medeiros of Ilha Sao Miguel

2017-03-20 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy

There is a Medeiros family (I believe from this Freguisia) that ended up in San 
Louis Obispo County CA.  They married into my line, and I have a cousin who 
provided me alot of old stuff on them (like tintypes from Sao Miguel, passports 
from the late 1800s, a journal of memoirs) but they are irrelevant to me.  I 
have to see if I can find the first names as I don't remember.

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Infant mortality rates 1700's - Azores

That sounds really interesting.  I'd be very appreciative of the chance to 
read it.

thanks,

Linda

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> I have a 80 page book about demographic statistics in Ribeira Seca. It has 
> tables and charts with all of that. I will scan and copy it as soon as I 
> can.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

2017-03-20 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy

Hello!

I am sending the below again in hopes that someone may see it and be able to 
figure something out! 

Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manoel Botelho Cabral (˜1845-1902)

Renivee,

If it's a 2nd cousin, you know how that person connects to your tree. Put
them in your tree. Do it on FTDNA. Then it will start to split your
matches. See the previous message from me.

You should be in the Brasil project and you should ask Ricardo about what
you believe about DNA for paternity testing. FTDNA doesn't deal with that.
Ricardo has been working to build the Brasil DNA project for genealogy.
He's NOT hunting down deadbeat dads!

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Renivee  wrote:

> Thanks Cherry,
>
> I just got my first high cM match 4 days ago, it is a second cousin and
> she doesn't have much info. I have quite a bit more. My highest after that
> is a 45cM American, who is researching Italian names because that's what he
> has. I'm Brazilian and so far everyone comes from Brazil with one couple
> coming from Madeira in the 1700's. Most non-confirmed because the
> "historian" who decided to compile our genealogy apparently decided dates
> weren't important.
>
> So I have contacted those matches with the highest cM's but only one has
> replied and he doesn't even have a tree organized! From what I gather from
> family in Brazil, a DNA test is only if you want to prove who's your baby
> daddy. So they are kind of frowned upon. I guess I'll have to see how I can
> afford to fly to Brazil and buy a bunch of kits for my relatives to do
> tests for me.
>
>
> On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 7:48:58 PM UTC-7, Renivee wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm new to the forum. I'm kind of stuck on a 4th grandfather. His name is
>> Manoel Botelho Cabral born circa 1844. He should have been born in Brazil,
>> but I cannot find anything about him besides my 3rd grandmother's death
>> record. His wife is Firmina Herculana dos Santos. I have a match on FTDNA
>> that is Azorian and she has a Manoel Botelho Cabral that was born in the
>> early part of the 1900's so it's not him. But he could still be part of the
>> family. Anyway, if you know of any Botelho Cabral's that went to Brazil,
>> please keep me in mind.
>>
>> Ren.
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Bernardo Cardoso - Flamengos on Faial

2017-03-20 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy

Is anyone familiar with Bernardo Cardoso and his family from Flamengos on 
FAIAL? I think that one of his children was my ancestor but am having a hard 
time verifying that. Bernardo was having children in the very early 1700s.

Thanks!

Also I would be interested if anyone has any knowledge of Any Cardoso lines 
that went from Flamengos FAIAL to Calheta Council of Sao Jorge in the early-mid 
part of the 1700s.


I appreciate any information!

,

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation

Maria da Conceicao (Conceição with diacritics). If you are looking at a
woman's name and it starts with Con and has diacritics at the end, you can
start to figure out it's Conceição.

The first words of the record says:
Aos vinte e seis (although that last word almost looks like "seil" but if
you pull out your word list, the only number that starts with "sei" is seis
and if you look at the rest of his "s" you'll see that they are rather
closed and almost look like a lower case "L."

Groom's mom: Maria Rosa. Some squishy "s."

Bride: Maria da Conceição daughter of Sergio Silveira, native of Nossa
Senhora da Boa Nova on Pico, and Maria Eugenia, of this parish. Bride of
this parish too.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 6:46 AM, BOBCAMSCPW via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I am looking for some help with Item #17 for Joao Pacheco Ferreira he
> married Maria da and I am not sure of the rest.  It was in the year of 1881
> and the month is November not sure of the date.
> He is the son of Manuel Pacheco Ferreira and Maria looks like Rocha and I
> am not sure of her parents and the  and the rest of the information
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889_item1/P23.html
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889_item1/P24.html
>
>
>
> Bob Camacho
> Researching the Island of Terceira for
> da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
> Researching the Island of Graciousa for
> Reis
> Researching the Island of Madeira for
> Camacho
> Researching Brazil for
> Evangelho
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

2017-03-20 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy

Hello,

I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found that every 
few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little Va/Via in the 
margin.  

Examples include:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html

The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html

This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the priest 
was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly appreciated.

,

Jeremy
Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manoel Botelho Cabral (˜1845-1902)

2017-03-20 Thread Renivee

Thanks Cherry,

I just got my first high cM match 4 days ago, it is a second cousin and she 
doesn't have much info. I have quite a bit more. My highest after that is a 
45cM American, who is researching Italian names because that's what he has. 
I'm Brazilian and so far everyone comes from Brazil with one couple coming 
from Madeira in the 1700's. Most non-confirmed because the "historian" who 
decided to compile our genealogy apparently decided dates weren't 
important. 

So I have contacted those matches with the highest cM's but only one has 
replied and he doesn't even have a tree organized! From what I gather from 
family in Brazil, a DNA test is only if you want to prove who's your baby 
daddy. So they are kind of frowned upon. I guess I'll have to see how I can 
afford to fly to Brazil and buy a bunch of kits for my relatives to do 
tests for me.

On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 7:48:58 PM UTC-7, Renivee wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm new to the forum. I'm kind of stuck on a 4th grandfather. His name is 
> Manoel Botelho Cabral born circa 1844. He should have been born in Brazil, 
> but I cannot find anything about him besides my 3rd grandmother's death 
> record. His wife is Firmina Herculana dos Santos. I have a match on FTDNA 
> that is Azorian and she has a Manoel Botelho Cabral that was born in the 
> early part of the 1900's so it's not him. But he could still be part of the 
> family. Anyway, if you know of any Botelho Cabral's that went to Brazil, 
> please keep me in mind.
>
> Ren.
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation

2017-03-20 Thread BOBCAMSCPW via Azores Genealogy

I am looking for some help with Item #17 for Joao Pacheco Ferreira he  
married Maria da and I am not sure of the rest.  It was in the year of 1881  
and 
the month is November not sure of the date.
He is the son of Manuel Pacheco Ferreira and Maria looks like Rocha and I  
am not sure of her parents and the  and the rest of the information
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-188
0-1889/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889_item1/P23.html
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-188
0-1889/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1880-1889_item1/P24.html
 
 
 
Bob Camacho
Researching the Island of Terceira for
da Costa,  Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
Researching the Island of Graciousa  for
Reis
Researching the Island of Madeira for
Camacho
Researching  Brazil for
Evangelho

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Translation

2017-03-20 Thread BOBCAMSCPW via Azores Genealogy

Hi everyone looking for a little help Marriage translation for Antonio  
Machado da Costa, I see it is September  of 1876 date not sure, I show that  he 
married Marianna Victorina  Martins (?)
His father is Manuel Machado da Costa and mother is Maria Joaquina  and  
brides parents are Manuel Castano da Rocha and Maria Victorina 
 
Not sure about other information
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1
870-1879/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879_item1/P96.html
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1
870-1879/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879_item1/P97.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Infant mortality rates 1700's - Azores

2017-03-20 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy

I have a 80 page book about demographic statistics in Ribeira Seca. It has 
tables and charts with all of that. I will scan and copy it as soon as I can.


Thanks!

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

Jermey, those are certifications.

examplified:

1.a cer.dam fora
2.a via

via is old writing for fora wich means "issued / extract"



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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found that
> every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little Va/Via in
> the margin.
>
> Examples include:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html
>
> The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html
>
> This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the
> priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> ,
>
> Jeremy
> Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Infant mortality rates 1700's - Azores

2017-03-20 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy

Let me see if I can get permission to give it out to you guys I know the 
author

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] July 5 1900 New York Passenger list from the Peninsular from Faial-Adelaide Augusta from Rieberas, Pico and Maria Ignacia from Santo Amaro,Pico

Thanks, Cheri...I'll keep looking!

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 11:15:31 AM UTC-6, Evee Silva Kiler wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 11:11:23 AM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Thome Machado de Medeiros? See if you can find this Thome M Medeiros 
>> in the 1900 in CA.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Evee Silva Kiler  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am having trouble reading all the name of the man who this girl and 
>>> her grandmother are going to see.  They say they are going to Hayward, 
>>> California.   They are both going to see the same man.  Two lines are 
>>> repeated for each traveler.
>>>
>>> I believe it is Thome [Med] Medeiros of San Francisco.  I don't have 
>>> a guess about the middle name.  
>>> He is the uncle of the 15 year old girl, Adelaide Augusta and he is the 
>>> son of 61 year old Maria Ignacia.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can someone help me with the name of this man named in the attached 
>>> "snip" from the passenger list?
>>>
>>> And below is the link for the whole record if that helps.  They are on 
>>> lines 28 and 29.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYT715_139-0446/4037050587?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/37799168/person/180061306953/facts/citation/660251395477/edit/record
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much...
>>> Evee
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage Translation

Hi Bob,

I think you've got all the essential info, but bride's father is probably 
Manuel *Caetano* da Rocha.

Here' what I see in the record:

4 Sept 1876, Santa Barbara, Terceira, no impediments

Antonio Machado d'a Costa: 31 years old, a single man, workman 
(trabalhador); native, resident, and baptized in Doze Ribeiras; legitimate 
son of Manoel Machado d'a Costa and Maria Joaquina natives of Doze Rebeiras 

Marianna Victorina Martins: 26 years old, a single woman, dressmaker 
(costureria); native, resident and baptized in Santa Barbara; legitimate 
daughter of Manoel Caetano d'a Rocha and Maria Victorina natives of Santa 
Barbara

witnesses: Joaquim de Freitas (who signed it) and Jose Machado Lourenco, 
farmers, residents of Santa Barbara

hope that helps,

Linda




On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 7:13:26 AM UTC-7, Bob wrote:
>
> Hi everyone looking for a little help Marriage translation for Antonio 
> Machado da Costa, I see it is September  of 1876 date not sure, I show that 
> he married Marianna Victorina  Martins (?)
> His father is Manuel Machado da Costa and mother is Maria Joaquina and  
> brides parents are Manuel Castano da Rocha and Maria Victorina 
>  
> Not sure about other information
>  
>  
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879_item1/P96.html
>  
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-C-1870-1879_item1/P97.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

2017-03-20 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy

Fascinating! Thank you so much!
,
Jeremy


  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] July 5 1900 New York Passenger list from the Peninsular from Faial-Adelaide Augusta from Rieberas, Pico and Maria Ignacia from Santo Amaro,Pico

I am having trouble reading all the name of the man who this girl and her 
grandmother are going to see.  They say they are going to Hayward, 
California.   They are both going to see the same man.  Two lines are 
repeated for each traveler.

I believe it is Thome [Med] Medeiros of San Francisco.  I don't have a 
guess about the middle name.  
He is the uncle of the 15 year old girl, Adelaide Augusta and he is the son 
of 61 year old Maria Ignacia.


Can someone help me with the name of this man named in the attached "snip" 
from the passenger list?

And below is the link for the whole record if that helps.  They are on 
lines 28 and 29.

http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYT715_139-0446/4037050587?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/37799168/person/180061306953/facts/citation/660251395477/edit/record



Thank you very much...
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

Thanks Margaret-- that is fascinating.  

I have a follow up question on Jeremy's original question.  I assume the 
certificates on the baptisms would have been issued in order to marry, and 
those on the obits would have been issued for purposes of inheritance.  Do 
you know if I'm safe in thinking so?

thanks!

Linda

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 9:42:47 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> Jermey, those are certifications.
>
> examplified:
>
> 1.a cer.dam fora
> 2.a via
>
> via is old writing for fora wich means "issued / extract" 
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found that 
>> every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little Va/Via in 
>> the margin.
>>
>> Examples include:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html
>>
>> The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html
>>
>> This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the 
>> priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly 
>> appreciated.
>>
>> ,
>>
>> Jeremy
>> Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose de Medeiros of Ilha Sao Miguel

2017-03-20 Thread George Medeiros

I am wondering if any of these Medeiros who married into your line are related 
to me ? 

The info I have in regards to my grandfather 

  Jose Medeiros Cordeiro or Jose ( Joseph ) C.Medeiros in U.S, 
  born on August 19, 1880 in Fenais da Ajuda,Ribera Grande,
  Sao Miguel , Azores

  Parents :Francisco Jose Medeiros born in Fenais da Ajuda
 Maria de Jesus Cordeiro  born in Arrifes, PontaDelgado
   
   Paternal Grandparents : Jose de Medeiros and Anna Jacintha
   Maternal Grandparents : Jose Cordeiro Soares   
  and Emilia de Jesus
   Godfather : Manuel Soares 
   Godmother : Vitoria de Jesus or Victoria de Jesus

I realize there are many with the surname Medeiros but I am wondering if any of 
your Medeiros info would be helpful to me ?
  George M. Medeiros Jr.

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:29 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is a Medeiros family (I believe from this Freguisia) that ended up in 
> San Louis Obispo County CA.  They married into my line, and I have a cousin 
> who provided me alot of old stuff on them (like tintypes from Sao Miguel, 
> passports from the late 1800s, a journal of memoirs) but they are irrelevant 
> to me.  I have to see if I can find the first names as I don't remember.
> 
> Jeremy
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Infant mortality rates 1700's - Azores

Thanks Jeremy.  I'd be happy to support the author by purchasing a hard 
copy if they're still available.

:)

Linda

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:01:15 AM UTC-7, Jeremy G. B-C wrote:
>
> Let me see if I can get permission to give it out to you guys I know 
> the author

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] July 5 1900 New York Passenger list from the Peninsular from Faial-Adelaide Augusta from Rieberas, Pico and Maria Ignacia from Santo Amaro,Pico

Thome Machado de Medeiros? See if you can find this Thome M Medeiros in
the 1900 in CA.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Evee Silva Kiler 
wrote:

> I am having trouble reading all the name of the man who this girl and her
> grandmother are going to see.  They say they are going to Hayward,
> California.   They are both going to see the same man.  Two lines are
> repeated for each traveler.
>
> I believe it is Thome [Med] Medeiros of San Francisco.  I don't have a
> guess about the middle name.
> He is the uncle of the 15 year old girl, Adelaide Augusta and he is the
> son of 61 year old Maria Ignacia.
>
>
> Can someone help me with the name of this man named in the attached "snip"
> from the passenger list?
>
> And below is the link for the whole record if that helps.  They are on
> lines 28 and 29.
>
> http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYT715_139-0446/
> 4037050587?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/
> person/tree/37799168/person/180061306953/facts/citation/
> 660251395477/edit/record
>
>
>
> Thank you very much...
> Evee
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] July 5 1900 New York Passenger list from the Peninsular from Faial-Adelaide Augusta from Rieberas, Pico and Maria Ignacia from Santo Amaro,Pico



On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 11:11:23 AM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Thome Machado de Medeiros? See if you can find this Thome M Medeiros 
> in the 1900 in CA.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Evee Silva Kiler  > wrote:
>
>> I am having trouble reading all the name of the man who this girl and her 
>> grandmother are going to see.  They say they are going to Hayward, 
>> California.   They are both going to see the same man.  Two lines are 
>> repeated for each traveler.
>>
>> I believe it is Thome [Med] Medeiros of San Francisco.  I don't have 
>> a guess about the middle name.  
>> He is the uncle of the 15 year old girl, Adelaide Augusta and he is the 
>> son of 61 year old Maria Ignacia.
>>
>>
>> Can someone help me with the name of this man named in the attached 
>> "snip" from the passenger list?
>>
>> And below is the link for the whole record if that helps.  They are on 
>> lines 28 and 29.
>>
>>
>> http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NYT715_139-0446/4037050587?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/37799168/person/180061306953/facts/citation/660251395477/edit/record
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much...
>> Evee
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

Hi Linda,

Certifications on baptism at that time served, according to my own
experience, the same purpose as the obits ones did.  You will note that
only a few of the birth records were  certified.  Were they to be used as
proof of marriage, then most if not all records should have at least one
certification.

Yes, it could be inheritance or other.  A good example of other, would be
"Army" enlistment.  Some times proof of death had to be provided on "
government issued drafts" because parents gave children the same first
names they used to draft even the "dead" ones.  Inter island/mainland
travel movement also required identification in those days





On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:05 PM, linda  wrote:

> Thanks Margaret-- that is fascinating.
>
> I have a follow up question on Jeremy's original question.  I assume the
> certificates on the baptisms would have been issued in order to marry, and
> those on the obits would have been issued for purposes of inheritance.  Do
> you know if I'm safe in thinking so?
>
> thanks!
>
> Linda
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 9:42:47 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>>
>> Jermey, those are certifications.
>>
>> examplified:
>>
>> 1.a cer.dam fora
>> 2.a via
>>
>> via is old writing for fora wich means "issued / extract"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found
>>> that every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little
>>> Va/Via in the margin.
>>>
>>> Examples include:
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html
>>>
>>> The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html
>>>
>>> This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the
>>> priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> ,
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>> Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira
>>>
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