[board-discuss] Acceptance of role at the membership committee

[Charles-H. Schulz]

I, Charles-H. Schulz , elected deputh member of the Membership Committee of The
Document Foundation (Stiftung bürgerlichen Rechts), hereby accept this
position.

Signed: Charles-H. Schulz. 
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[board-discuss] Self-Nomination

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Dear Members of the Foundation, Dear Board & MC Members,

I would like to continue my work inside the Membership Committee for 
another term. I therefore declare my candidacy for the Membership 
Committee.
I have been among the founders of the Document Foundation, a former 
board member and these days I'm mostly active in social networking and 
website edition for the LibreOffice project.


Full Name: SCHULZ Charles-H.
Location: Paris, France
Affiliation: None relevant.
Email: charles DOT schulz AT documentfoundation DOT org
IRC nick: @southerncross or @ch_s


I hope you will consider my application for the membership committee in 
a favourable way.


Best regards,

Charles-H. Schulz.

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Re: [board-discuss] Fwd: OSCAL Tirana

[Charles-H. Schulz]

If I am the approver then +1.

Charles. 

Le 25 mars 2016 11:58:08 GMT+01:00, Michael Meeks  
a écrit :
>
>On Fri, 2016-03-25 at 00:32 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote:
>> The attached message is still waiting for an answer. In the meantime,
>I
>> have booked my travel, and the expense is going to be less than half
>the
>> amount originally forecasted.
>>
>> I need the approval of the expense from the marketing/community
>budget.
>
>   Not sure I'm an approver for that budget; but it sounds pretty
>sensible
>to me =)
>
>   +1
>
>   ATB,
>
>   Michael.
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Re: [board-discuss] Questions for the candidates to the board of directors of the Document Foundation

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

I would like to thank the candidates who already took the time to answer 
my questions and the candidates who will soon reply :-) . I hope their 
answers will help our members get a better idea on the opinions and the 
vision of each candidate to the board!


Best,

Charles.

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[board-discuss] Candidate nomination

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Dear members of the Foundation, 

I would like to nominate Simon Phipps as candidate to the board of directors of 
the Document Foundation. 

Simon is not only a former executive of Sun Microsystems and an Open Source 
Software renowned expert; he has been a contributor to the LibreOffice project 
and to the Foundation since its early days. He has also served at our 
membership committee.

I believe Simon has the right skills, the talent and the vision to be a great 
member of the board of directors of the Document Foundation. I would be happy 
if the members would elect him as a director.

Best regards,

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[board-discuss] Fwd: Questions for the candidates to the board of directors of the Document Foundation

[Charles-H . Schulz]

Dear future or existing candidates to  the board of directors,

I just wanted to remind you that:
1) the nomination deadline is approaching fast
2) don't forget to answer my questions below -two candidates have declared
their candidacy but have not replied so far.

Thanks,

Charles.


Charles-H. Schulz <charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> @ 2015-11-02 17:38 
CET:

> Dear candidates to the board of directors of the Document Foundation,
>
> I would first like to thank you for running as candidates for the board 
> of directors. At this time, not every candidate has declared his or her 
> candidacy. However, I would like to ask a few questions about your views 
> and intentions regarding the Document Foundation and your plans as 
> potential directors of the entity. I hope they will be helpful in 
> englightening our membership and hopefully, all of you will be able to 
> answer them.
>
> 1. Do you commit yourself to have enough time and the necessary 
> technological tools in order to participate to the regularly scheduled 
> board calls?
>
>
> 2. Do you commit yourself to follow up and work on (at least) the main 
> items and actions you have volunteered to oversee or that have been 
> attributed to you by the board?
>
>
> 3. What are your views on the foundation's budget? How should the money 
> be spent, besides our fixed costs?
>
>
> 4. Should we work towards broadening our pool of contributors, both 
> technical and non-technical?
>
>
> 5. Should the Foundation -as an entity distinct from the LibreOffice 
> project or the Document Liberation project- engage into growing its 
> influence and promoting and defending Free Software and Digital Freedom? 
> It is, after all, an integral part of its mission per its very Statutes. 
> If yes, do you have ideas on what should be done about this?
>
>
> 6. How do you view your (potential) role as a member of the board of 
> directors, given that this position does not give you any specific 
> functional role inside the LibreOffice or Document Liberation projects?
>
>
> 7. What is the biggest problem of the foundation in your opinion? What 
> is its biggest opportunity?
>
>
> Thank you for your answers,
>
> Charles-H. Schulz.

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[board-discuss] Questions for the candidates to the board of directors of the Document Foundation

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Dear candidates to the board of directors of the Document Foundation,

I would first like to thank you for running as candidates for the board 
of directors. At this time, not every candidate has declared his or her 
candidacy. However, I would like to ask a few questions about your views 
and intentions regarding the Document Foundation and your plans as 
potential directors of the entity. I hope they will be helpful in 
englightening our membership and hopefully, all of you will be able to 
answer them.


1. Do you commit yourself to have enough time and the necessary 
technological tools in order to participate to the regularly scheduled 
board calls?



2. Do you commit yourself to follow up and work on (at least) the main 
items and actions you have volunteered to oversee or that have been 
attributed to you by the board?



3. What are your views on the foundation's budget? How should the money 
be spent, besides our fixed costs?



4. Should we work towards broadening our pool of contributors, both 
technical and non-technical?



5. Should the Foundation -as an entity distinct from the LibreOffice 
project or the Document Liberation project- engage into growing its 
influence and promoting and defending Free Software and Digital Freedom? 
It is, after all, an integral part of its mission per its very Statutes. 
If yes, do you have ideas on what should be done about this?



6. How do you view your (potential) role as a member of the board of 
directors, given that this position does not give you any specific 
functional role inside the LibreOffice or Document Liberation projects?



7. What is the biggest problem of the foundation in your opinion? What 
is its biggest opportunity?



Thank you for your answers,

Charles-H. Schulz.

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Re: [board-discuss] Budget Approval for LibreItalia Conference

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le 25 octobre 2015 16:27:50 GMT+01:00, Italo Vignoli  a 
écrit :
>Associazione LibreItalia asked a grant to cover travel expenses for
>LibreItalia Conference on November 28, but the BoD prefers to handle
>the
>reimbursement within the marketing budget.
>
>Charles, can you please approve the expense, which is specified in the
>attachment?
>
>Thanks, Italo

Sure, approved.

Best,

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Re: [board-discuss] Marketing Budget Approval for FUEL GILT 2015

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le 25 octobre 2015 16:40:31 GMT+01:00, Italo Vignoli  a 
écrit :
>FUEL GILT is one of the largest conferences focused on localization
>issues, and is organized by a number of TDF community members in India
>(those who have attended the conference in Aarhus). They have invited
>Sophie and myself to attend the conference, and the idea is the I
>attend
>2015 and Sophie attends 2016, to foster the connection with the Indian
>NLP and promote LibreOffice and ODF in the Indian market.
>
>The conference happens in Chennai (Madras) on November 20-22, and I
>will
>present a paper on LibreOffice localization (edited with Sophie's
>precious help) and one on the ODF document standard (and associated
>issues, such as free fonts for interoperability).
>
>Travel expenses will be lower than 1,000 Euro (flight is around 600
>Euro, hotel is less than 75 Euro per night, and other expenses are low
>in comparison with Europe).
>
>For more information on FUEL: http://fuelproject.org/gilt2015/index.
>
>I ask Charles to approve the expense from the marketing budget.

Excellent idea. Approved. 

Best,

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Re: [board-discuss] Pre Approval of Travel Reimbursement

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Le 1 octobre 2015 11:53:05 GMT+02:00, Italo Vignoli  a 
écrit :
>I would like to ask a pre-approval of travel reimbursements from the
>marketing budget for the following tasks:
>
>1. OSCON Europe, happening in Amsterdam from October 26 to October 28,
>where I will travel to support the local community at the booth and to
>meet European journalists (forecasted expense: transportation + hotel =
>euro 800).
>
>2. Meetings with Italian Government bodies in Rome, where we - myself
>and Sonia Montegiove - will be introduced by the Ministry of Defense as
>a part of the agreement signed by Associazione LibreItalia (forecasted
>expense for two people: transportation + hotel when necessary = euro
>1,200).
>
>Both forecasts include some flexibility. The final amount should be
>lower than the total forecasted.
>
>Sonia Montegiove has already traveled to Verona for the first meeting,
>while the other meetings will happen from mid October till the end of
>November.
>
>Being a budget approver for marketing, I abstain.

+1 as marketing budget approver.

Best,

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[board-discuss] Use of the tagline for the 5.0 release

[Charles-H . Schulz]

Dear board members,

Apologies for the short notice. This email is to notify the board that I
authorize the use of the tagline Moved by Freedom - Powered by Standards
for the release of LibreOffice 5.0. It looks like there is some great chance
we will be using the tagline that is the default title of my weblog
(http://www.standardsandfreedom.net).
I authorize the Foundation to use this tagline on the various marketing
material (banners, etc.) that will be designed for the 5.0 release.

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Re: [board-discuss] Budget for event FISL16

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Le 7 juillet 2015 13:47:28 GMT+02:00, Italo Vignoli it...@libreoffice.org a 
écrit :
Re-Approved, Italo

On 07/07/15 13:22, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote:
 Dear Marketing,
 
 Apologize for the late request.
 
 I would like to request a budget for the event FISL16, for expenses
with
 air ticket and hotel. The event will happen this week July 8 to 11
and
 I'll have the following activities:
 
 * Lecture: LibreOffice Online and LibreOffice 5.0
 * Lecture: LibreOffice Extensions
 * Lecture: Strategies of Migration for LibreOffice
 * Lecture: LibreOffice Magazine
 
 Budget: BRL 1.067,00

Eliane,

Co-marketing hat on here: approved.

Best,

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Re: [board-discuss] Speaking at Conferences in Italy

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Italo,

On 5 décembre 2014 01:14:07 CET, Italo Vignoli it...@libreoffice.org wrote:
I have been invited to present LibreOffice in Foligno on Saturday,
December 13. I will also lecture about document standards on Friday,
December 12, to the members of Perugia Linux User Group. Both events
are
organized within the migration to LibreOffice of Regione Umbria. Travel
expenses are limited to train tickets (euro 95,40), as I will stay at
my
sister's in Assisi.

I have also been invited to present LibreOffice in Cagliari on
Saturday,
December 20, at a Free Software Conference organized by the local
university to remember Giulio Concas, a professor and open source
advocate who died in September at age 50. Giulio was a friend of every
Italian open source advocate, although we were used to meet only at
conferences. I will have to leave on Friday, December 19, and spend the
night in Cagliari, as flights are not available on Saturday morning. I
anticipate that the cost will not be higher than 250 euro.

I ask Charles to approve the expense from the marketing budget.

As usual, being a marketing budget approver myself, this happens on the
public mailing list for the sake of transparency.

Sounds good to me, I approve.

Best,

Charles.



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Re: [board-discuss] Travel Expense Approval

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Italo,

On 9 novembre 2014 18:47:59 CET, Italo Vignoli it...@libreoffice.org wrote:
I will represent the project at the upcoming SFScon in Bolzano, on
November 14. This year, we will have a 2 hours long workshop in the
afternoon, focused on migrations and certification, in addition to a
booth (staffed by local TDF members).

I will have to travel by car to bring booth materials with me, and
therefore I am asking to cover travel expenses (fuel plus tolls: Euro
90
+ Euro 41.20) and lodging for two nights (Euro 40 + Euro 55).

Thanks and best regards, Italo


Not from the board obviously but from marketing: +1

Best,

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Re: [board-discuss] [ANN] Results for the 2014 Membership Committee election

[Charles-H. Schulz]

I, Charles-H. Schulz, elected member of the Membership Committee of
 The Document Foundation, hereby accept this position.

 Signed: Charles-H. Schulz.
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[board-discuss] Membership Committee Candicacy

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Dear all,

I am interested in serving at the Membership Committee of the Document
Foundation. I have been one of the co-founders of the LibreOffice
project and used to be a contributor of the OpenOffice.org project.
These days I am mostly involved in comms and marketing for the
community.

I will be happy to help the community and the foundation members by
participating to the committee' s work and sessions.

Name: Charles-H. Schulz
Email: charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org  c...@adocentyn.io
Affiliation: None .


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Re: [board-discuss] board meeting today

[Charles-H. Schulz]

I will not be able to join :-)

Best,

Charles.

On 28 mai 2014 11:22:16 CEST, Florian Effenberger 
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Hello,

I'd like to remind everyone of today's board meeting, which happens at 
1500 UTC.

The agenda and the dial-in details are available as usual at 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Meetings

Looking forward to hearing you!
Florian

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[board-discuss] Nominating Eliane Domingos de Sousa for the Board of Directors

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

I'd like to nominate Eliane Domingos de Sousa for the upcoming
elections at the Board of Directors. Eliane has worked with Olivier for
LibreOffice in Brazil and I think everyone who knows her knows her
achievements. She will bring a less technical touch to the board, but
certainly true voice from the community with the spirit and the full
intent of getting things done.

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Re: [board-discuss] Resignation

[Charles-H. Schulz]

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Le Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:44:20 -0200,
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 Hello Fridrich
 
 Em 21-10-2013 08:34, Fridrich Strba escreveu:
  I, Fridrich Strba, hereby resign from The Document Foundation
  Membership Committee, as well as from my role as the Membership
  Committee Chairman, effective immediately.
  
 
 Indeed, with deep regret to see you going. My best wishes for your new
 challenges.  Keep in touch.


I'm sorry to see you go Fridrich. Very  sorry. Thank you for all you've
done for this project and this foundation.

Best regards,

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Co-founder  Director, The Document Foundation,
Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin
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[board-discuss] Away for two weeks

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello everyone,

I'll be away on vacations with my family for two weeks and will have
almost no internet access.  If the board needs to join me I can get text
messages of course.

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Re: [board-discuss] hiring Christian Lohmaier

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1

Charles.


Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com a écrit :

On Mon, 2013-06-10 at 23:04 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote:
  After the contract has been drafted now and sent to the board in
  private, I hereby ask the board to
 
  1. vote on hiring Christian Lohmaier, for a limited period of
one
  year, part-time with 20 hours per week, specifically for web
  development, at costs not exceeding 25.000 € per year,
 
  2. authorize Thorsten Behrens and me to sign the work contract
on
  behalf of TDF

   +1 there is lots that needs doing that fits Christian's skills.

   Thanks !

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Re: [board-discuss] Reminder: BoD call tomorrow

[Charles-H. Schulz]

I will be at the Linux solutions expo and.therefore I don't think I'll be able 
to make it. I thus nominate Bjoern, Jesus or Andreas to replace me.

Best,
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Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :
Hello,

this is a short reminder that tomorrow, May 29th, we have our next
board 
call.

The dial-in details as well as an agenda are available at 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Meetings

Right now, there are now agenda items listed. If anyone has a topic to 
discuss, please add it in time - otherwise I propose we adjourn the
call 
and meet two weeks later.

Florian

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Re: [board-discuss] Board Strategy Meeting

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Hello Florian,

Le vendredi 10 mai 2013 à 18:41 +0200, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 TDF is developing rapidly, so are the challenges we have to face, the 
 decisions we have to make, and the strategy we have to develop. In 
 addition, we intend to run the board elections this fall, approximately 
 shortly after LibOCon, to give the new board enough time to learn until 
 the official duty hand-over in February 2014.
 
 Given that several board members already proposed to meet dedicatedly 
 for strategy, I would like to propose hosting a
 
 Board Strategy Meeting
 
 this summer. The intend is to have as many board members as possible - 
 ideally everyone - at the same physical location, dedicatedly talking 
 about strategy and future planning.
 
 There is a variety of topics on the table, and I think having a real 
 life meeting is much better than any sort of virtual meeting. Having 
 this meeting next to the LibreOffice Conference doesn't sound wise to 
 me, as we all know how busy these days usually are.
 
 Before I send out a Doodle from June to September, I'd like to hear your 
 availability options. ;-) It might make sense to host the event at a 
 central location, during a weekend, so many people can participate.
 
 Can all board members give me feedback on when is best (or when it 
 doesn't work out at all), so I can send out a Doodle poll soon?

Please do.Just be aware that, as for myself, I'm moving in a new
apartment, so I'll be unavailable around mid July - say from the 7th to
the 15th). I'll be very busy from the 9th to the 16th of June (work +
business travel). As for the month of August, I'll be on vacations from
the 12th to the 27th of August.

Best,

Charles.

 
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[board-discuss] Deputy for today's call

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

I won't be available today for the board meeting. Given that Jesus will 
represent Olivier, I would like to appoint Bjoern and/or Andreas to represent 
me at the meeting.

Best,
Charles.
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Re: [board-discuss] new BoD call time due to daylight saving time

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le lundi 01 avril 2013 à 17:44 +0200, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Norbert Thiebaud wrote on 2013-03-31 20:17:
  but..._practically_  the meeting time is adjusted so that it always
  occurs at the same CET time. so the announce could be made using UTC
  for convenience, but in fact that UTC time has changed and will change
  according to the DST setting of CET... so instead of figuring out how
  many hours behind 3,4,5 you are from CET, you have to pay attention to
  the specific UTC time of the meeting, which will vary up to 2 hours
  depending on the specific date of the meeting.
 
 what about my proposal:
 
 We do a vote on having it 1500 UTC during European daylight savings, and 
 1600 UTC during the European winter months. That way, the reference time 
 is CE(S)T, but we would have UTC as official time, making conversions 
 easier.
 
 Florian
 

+1

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[board-discuss] BoD call tomorrow?

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hi,

Are we supposed to have a call tomorrow? If yes I will be travelling at that 
time and appoint Jésus, Bjoern and Andreas in no particular order to replace me.

Thanks,
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Re: [board-discuss] renaming @documentfoundation.org mailing lists

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Florian,

Le samedi 23 février 2013 à 19:03 +0100, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 quite a while ago, we have renamed the @libreoffice.org mailing lists to 
 @global.libreoffice.org for technical reasons. I'd now like to do the 
 same for the @documentfoundation.org mailing lists, namely
 
   - announce
   - board-discuss
   - discuss
   - mirrors
   - moderators
   - test
 
 The reason behind is that I'd like to split up our mail system into two 
 instances for reasons of load balancing and security. One should contain 
 all private mailing lists as well as e-mail accounts, the other one 
 should contain all public mailing lists. The fact that all our 
 communication tools are on one system at the moment is quite unfortunate.
 
 At @documentfoundation.org, we not only host public mailing lists, but 
 also e-mail accounts. One way to achieve the distinction on the server 
 side is to create a forwarding/transport in the mail system, but I'm not 
 a friend of that, it has a few drawbacks. The other option is to rename 
 the list part, and - like we did with libreoffice.org before - use 
 @global.documentfoundation.org in the future, so each subdomain can be 
 attached to its own MX record (mail server).
 
 Before doing such a change that affects many users, I wanted to ask 
 about your opinion. From a technical point of view, it is IMHO the best 
 solution. Agreeably, it is a bit annoying to update all the website 
 elements and links, and we can do the rename with enough time in 
 advance, but would you generally support this approach?


It will be annoying whatever we change :-)
Is there merit in requesting that, instead of naming global, we use
something like lists.documentfoundation.org or
ml.documentfoundation.org just to shorten the number of letters?

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Re: [board-discuss] [4.0] Review

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello K-J,

thanks for your email. You are right but I don't think it will be formal. 
However we must do it one way or another.

Best,
Charles.


klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de a écrit :

Hi to all board members,
as 4.0.0 is rolled out there should be a review about what happened:

The good points, the bad points
What can we do in the same way, what in a better way the next time?
What is needed to get it better?
A discussion may cause some budget thoughts, community handling,
marketing concepts, Whiteboards, Easy Hacks etc.

IMHO the board should be the starting point and the lead of such a
discussion to give it a direction for the whole community.

What do you think?


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Re: [board-discuss] budget for business cards

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1

Charles.


Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com a écrit :


On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 11:32 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 I'd like the board to approve this sum for the production.

   +1

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Re: [board-discuss] 2013 budget as of today

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le mardi 29 janvier 2013 à 17:05 +0100, Sophie Gautier a écrit :
 Hi all,
 On 29/01/2013 12:06, Florian Effenberger wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I have just updated the draft of the TDF budget. It's available at
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Tdfbudget2013.pdf
  
  The good news is that we have, despite some expenses, grown the total
  amount available, leaving an unallocated amount of approximately 17.000 €.
  
  For SPI, who kindly provide travel funding for many of our events, it
  seems that after lots of payments, there are still 31.000 USD in the
  bank. (Note: This money does not directly belong to TDF and is spent at
  the sole discretion of SPI for the LibreOffice community.)
  
  So, in a nutshell, our donation base is growing, and we should take 4.0
  as a chance to grow it even more, to realize some further plans.
 
 May be that plan could include Moztrap localization capabilities?

That would be wonderful. What would be the expected sum for this?

Thanks,

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Re: [board-discuss] 2013 budget as of today

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le mardi 29 janvier 2013 à 17:33 +0100, Sophie Gautier a écrit :
 Hi Charles, all
 On 29/01/2013 17:18, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
  Le mardi 29 janvier 2013 à 17:05 +0100, Sophie Gautier a écrit :
  Hi all,
  On 29/01/2013 12:06, Florian Effenberger wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I have just updated the draft of the TDF budget. It's available at
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Tdfbudget2013.pdf
 
  The good news is that we have, despite some expenses, grown the total
  amount available, leaving an unallocated amount of approximately 17.000 €.
 
  For SPI, who kindly provide travel funding for many of our events, it
  seems that after lots of payments, there are still 31.000 USD in the
  bank. (Note: This money does not directly belong to TDF and is spent at
  the sole discretion of SPI for the LibreOffice community.)
 
  So, in a nutshell, our donation base is growing, and we should take 4.0
  as a chance to grow it even more, to realize some further plans.
 
  May be that plan could include Moztrap localization capabilities?
  
  That would be wonderful. What would be the expected sum for this?
 From what I recall it was evaluated to 1month/man.

So that definitely fits within this sum. How much is Norbert's bot?

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[board-discuss] Splashscreen Startscreen proposals for the 4.0

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

As the Design team has selected the startscreen and splashscreen for the
upcoming 4.0 release several members of the Board of Directors have felt
the choice was not acceptable for a variety of reasons (too white, too
simple, non-standard logo, not enough green...). 

In general it is not up to the BoD to decide on UX and designs. The
reactions to the choice of the graphical elements for the 4.0 were,
however, quite vocal. I would therefore like to ask the BoD to propose
an alternative choice (and vote on it ASAP), which would be to ship
LibreOffice 4.0 with a slightly modified 3.6.x Splashscreen and
StartCenter (the modifications being the inclusion of the number 4 on
them) and then let the Design team come up with a new design for the
rest of the 4.x branch. 

I realize that we're hijacking several processes here, but several of
the BoD members felt we had to come up with a solution. What's more, I'd
like to sincerely thank the Design team, among them Mirek and Stefan for
their relentless work and contributions; we hope that you will continue
to provide the LibreOffice project with your talent and passion.

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[board-discuss] Re: Splashscreen Startscreen proposals for the 4.0

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Stefan,

Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 13:34 +0100, Stefan Knorr a écrit :
 Hi Charles,
 
 I am not going to answer to everything here, just on specific point...
 
 On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 11:43 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
  LibreOffice 4.0 with a slightly modified 3.6.x Splashscreen and
  StartCenter (the modifications being the inclusion of the number 4 on
  them) and then let the Design team come up with a new design for the
 
 Our current splash does not have a version number on it. (And I believe
 it should stay this way – if LibreOffice is out of date in an important
 way, it will alert the user anyway [1], so I see little gain in adding
 the number.)
 

Well, the number would only be a suggestion as to differentiate between
the two splashscreens, but I'm open to suggestions of course.

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Re: [board-discuss] Splashscreen Startscreen proposals for the 4.0

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Florian,

Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 15:22 +0100, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 after having a call with Thorsten, and thinking a second time about it, 
 I must confess that I have indeed changed my mind on this.
 
 The board should only veto for a very limited set of topics, mostly 
 legal stuff, and normally should not make use of its power as body.
 
 I had, like others, supported a board vote in first place, and based on 
 that support Charles posted this here. Thinking a second time about it 
 makes me feel it was a mistake, and I'm sorry for that.
 
 Rather, for the current discussion, let's talk between the marketing
 team and the design team, at eye-level, and not with the board's
 authority.
 


I'm against a veto, and I have written it elsewhere. I think it would be
a slap in the face of people who obviously don't deserve it. My proposal
and call to vote is very different, it is to come up with an actual
proposal. If we manage to solve it outside the board level, I'm the
first one to be happy (and I didn't like posting the call to vote this
morning); however both the timing and the fact that the initial proposal
has been merged in the main branch prompted for a Notbremse...

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Re: [board-discuss] Joining Silicon Sentier

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

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Em 17-01-2013 11:36, Charles-H. Schulz escreveu:
 Hi,
 
 I would like to ask that TDF joins the Silicon Sentier Association in
 Paris (www.siliconsentier.org) . Silicon was our partner that hosted
the
 first LiboCon but more importantly, the membership comes with the
 ability to run events either for free or with a nice price in the
heart
 of Paris (at La Cantine or elsewhere). 
 
 The membership fee is 179 €. I'd like to ask the BoD members to vote
on
 this asap.
 
 Thanks,
 

+1.
Will La Cantine host the forthcomming (much awaited) Paris LibreOffice
HackFests? 

That's a distinct possibility, yes, but nothing's decided.

Best,
Charles.




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[board-discuss] Merry Christmas

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

It's this time of the year again I'm not as good a Florian when it 
comes to these words, but let me just wish everyone of you, as well as 
your families,
a merry Christmas. May all the best come to you, and may you stay or be 
healthy in 2013 and beyond. It's a great joy and honour to be and 
contribute to this project
and to this community. Just for that, I feel blessed and hope to show 
myself worthy of this for a long time.

Best wishes,

Charles-H. Schulz.

Re: [board-discuss] Request: approve 523,60 € lawyer fees for drafting a work contract

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le samedi 15 décembre 2012 à 10:11 +, Michael Meeks a écrit :
 On Sat, 2012-12-15 at 01:57 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
  we had hired counsel to come up with a suitable work contract to hire
  Florian. This has concluded, and the aforementioned fees are due,
  please approve the not-yet-budgeted amount.
 
   +1 Thanks !
 
   Michael.
 

+1 from my side.

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[board-discuss] BoD minutes of the 28th of November 2012

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello, 

Please find the board minutes of the 28th of November meeting below.

Minutes 28.11.2012
The Document Foundation
 Board of Directors Meeting
 Call Minutes

Date: Wednesday, Nov, the 28th 2012
Location: Phone conference room

Session chair: Florian Effenberger (Chairman of the Board)
keeper of the minutes: Charles-H. Schulz (Board of Directors)
In the call:  Thorsten Behrens Florian Effenberger Caolan McNamara
Bjoern Michaelsen  Michael Meeks Andreas Mantke Charles-H. Schulz
Representation: for Italo Vignoli: Bjoern Michaelsen

Chairman of the Board is in the call. One of the Chairman or Deputy is
required to be present or represented for having a quorate call.

The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders
without deputies. In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of
the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 6 Board of
Directors members are attending the call, one of them being represented
by a deputy.

The board waives all formal statutory requirements, or requirements in
the foundations articles, or other requirements regarding form and
invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting.

The call is quorate.

From now on, a quorum can be reached with a simple majority of 4 votes.

The meeting commences at 16:05 UTC.

1. conference next year; let's wait for the deadline to announce/make a
choice.
2. money investment: Waiting for input from the Hypovereinsbank for one
more week, otherwise let's keep that at the Volksbank
3. Email policy: Mike Schinagl agreed to work on this on a paid basis.
4. Travel reimbursal for the GSoC mentor summit: 2000 USD of
reimbursal for the participants to this summit, preferably from SPI.
Accepted unanimously.
5. Infrastructure budget proposal: given the migration of our
infrastructure there will be some surplus in terms of cost.
Proposal:(what we have now): 900 Euros per month + one time fee (400
Euros) ; then (new)650 Euros per month in the new infrastructure; the
two systems and cost structure would run concurrently until the end of
the first quarter 2013. Approved unanimously. This budget shall enter
into effect on the 1st of December 2012.
6. CEBIT: discussion postponed to the next call.

End of agenda, no additions.
Attending at the end of the meeting: Thorsten Behrens Florian
Effenberger Caolan McNamara Bjoern Michaelsen  Michael Meeks Andreas
Mantke Charles-H. Schulz

The meeting adjournes at 16:35 UTC.

Meeting minutes approved:

Charles-H.Schulz, Keeper of the minutes
 Florian Effenberger, Session chair




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Re: [board-discuss] Budget request: EUR 3500 for LibOCon 2012 video / streaming service

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1

Charles.
Le 26 oct. 2012 18:25, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
a écrit :

 +1, it's definitely worth the money

 Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2012-10-26 15:17:

 I'd like to get aforementioned budget approved for paying the
 wonderful folks from Beuth college for their efforts during the
 LibreOffice conference (filming and streaming), and their ongoing
 work on post-processing the video footage.


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Re: [board-discuss] Fwd: Conference Moderator

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1 

Fine by me.

Charles.

Le dimanche 14 octobre 2012 à 14:58 +0200, Simon Phipps a écrit :
 Dear Board,
 
 This proposal has been discussed on the Conference list and is
 unopposed. Please will you consider selecting a person to act as
 LibreOffice Conference Moderator as described below?
 
 Best regards,
 
 Simon
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 
 From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com
 Date: Oct 12, 2012 12:48 PM
 Subject: Conference Moderator
 To: confere...@global.libreoffice.org
 
 tl;dr summary:  I propose the LibreOffice Conference appoint someone
 to oversee inclusiveness and offer confidence harassment will
 be addressed in the unlikely event it happens.
 
 
 Detail
 Attending conferences in the USA over the last year, I have frequently
 heard requests for conferences to have a policy statement to protect
 attendees from harrassment of various kinds by other attendees. My
 observation is these policies are hard to draft in a way that is
 inclusive to the needs of all attendees and non-alienating; indeed, I
 have observed some attempts at such policies themselves unwittingly
 alienating groups within the conference. I believe it's important for
 the LibreOffice conference that we create a welcoming and safe
 environment for all kinds of attendees, so rather than attempting a
 detailed policy statement I'd like to propose something different. 
 
 
 I suggest designating a Conference Moderator, who can provide a safe
 haven for those of us with concerns about some aspect of the
 conference and a trusted advocate to take whatever steps are possible
 to address problems if they arise. I thus propose the following:
  1. Add a statement such as the following to the conference web
 site: The LibreOffice community is welcoming, diverse and
 international. This strength can sometimes bring with it
 different approaches to interaction that are unfamiliar and
 even occasionally unwelcome. We all have different comfort
 zone boundaries and many of us find it good to have a friend
 stand along side us when these boundaries are crossed for
 whatever reason.  If there's any aspect of the event that
 makes you feel uncomfortable, and you don't feel you can
 discuss it directly with those responsible or that just
 walking away is an acceptable solution, the Conference
 Moderator will discuss it with you in an accepting manner and
 act on your behalf to bring about a resolution if appropriate.
 For this year's conference, the Document Foundation Board has
 asked name to act as Moderator. Please contact name
  either in-person or via e-mail address or phone number.
 name is authorised by the Board to take whatever steps are
 necessary to address any inappropriate actions during the
 conference.
  2. Ask the Document Foundation Board to seek and appoint a
 Moderator.
  3. Mention this arrangement in administrative remarks during the
 conference.
 I believe this approach balances the need for community oversight with
 the recognition of our mutual differences. All the same, I doubt I've
 got it right first time and I'd welcome improvements to this proposal.
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 
 Simon

Re: [board-discuss] budget for QA meeting in Essen

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1 sorry, very busy today...

Best,
Charles.
Le 1 oct. 2012 12:58, Olivier Hallot 
olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

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 +1

 Em 01-10-2012 04:44, Florian Effenberger escreveu:
  Hello,
 
  unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to put this up for discussion
  earlier. For the QA meeting that took place in Essen last weekend, I'd
  like to request a total budget of 1.000 €, payable from SPI funds,
  mostly used for travel requests. We probably need less, but to be on the
  safe side, I propose that amount as maximum.
 
  Would the board be willing to grant that?
 
  Thanks,
  Florian
 

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Re: [board-discuss] Request for pre-approval of remimbursement of travel expenses for LiboCon

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le mercredi 19 septembre 2012 à 14:43 +0200, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
 On 9/19/12 11:13 AM, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
  Jean Weber wrote:
  I request pre-approval of reminbursement of AUD 2000 (approx. EUR
  1600 at today's exchange rate) towards my travel and
  accommodation expenses to attend the LibreOffice Conference in
  Berlin, at which I will be a speaker.
  
  +1
 
 +1
 

+1

Charles.

Re: [board-discuss] Application: Travel costs for attending the DE-Python-Conference

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le jeudi 13 septembre 2012 à 13:07 +0200, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
 Il 13/09/2012 11:35, Michael Meeks ha scritto:
  
  On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 18:25 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
  Andreas Mantke wrote:
  I'll ask for a budget of about 550 Euro for this purpose.
 
  I support your request.
  
  +1.
 
 +1, Italo
 

+1

Charles.

Re: [board-discuss] Official Blog LibreOffice Brazil

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1

Charles.

Le jeudi 13 septembre 2012 à 08:46 -0300, Olivier Hallot a écrit :
 +1 as well
 
 Thanks
 
 Em 11-09-2012 15:21, Eliane Domingos de Sousa escreveu:
  Dear all,
  
  I would like to submit my request for your appreciation.
  
  I would like to have for the Brazilian LibreOffice Community and
  users/fans of LIBO an official blog in the structure of TDF using the
  sub-domain pt-br.libreoffice.org. I had some informations about this
  possibility and it's possible, however there are costs involved per year
  in a total of 73 USD.
  
  Today we're using an unofficial blog, translating the posts of TDF blog
  for Portuguese, but I'm not confortable to use this structure. Actually,
  I think it's not right to work out of structure of TDF.
  
  Do you see any problem about this?
  
  Thanks in advance!
  
  Best,
  
  Eliane Domingos de Sousa
  Brazilian LibreOffice Community
  
 

[board-discuss] call now?

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello all,

... aren't we supposed to have a call now?

/me surprised

Charles.

[board-discuss] Vacations

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello everyone,

I will be on vacations from today till the 2nd of September, with very
little, if no connectivity.
I would like to nominate Jesus Corrius, or Bjoern Michaelsen, or Andreas
Mandke for our next BoD call and any event that would usually require my
presence.

Best,

Charles.

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Re: [board-discuss] Declaration of Internet Freedom

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1

Best,
Charles.

2012/7/3 Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org

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 Yes. Absolutely. +1

 Em 02-07-2012 22:34, Simon Phipps escreveu:
  Please will the Board consider adding TDF as a signatory to the
  Declaration of Internet Freedom:
  http://www.internetdeclaration.org/freedom
 
  Thanks,
 
  S.
 

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Re: Travel policy forms (was: Re: [board-discuss] BoD minutes from 2012-05-16)

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Thanks Thorsten!

Best,

Charles.
Le 19 juin 2012 02:09, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org a
écrit :

 Florian Effenberger wrote:
  5. Travel policy
 
  Request: Approve TDF travel policy as mailed to the board discuss
  list on May 16th, 2012
 
  Result of vote: 6 approvals, 0 neutral, 0 disapprovals
 
  Decision: The TDF travel policy has been approved.
 
 Hi *,

 I've now setup some wiki pages with information regarding travel
 reimbursals and related materials - referenced from

  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies

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Re: [board-discuss] next BoD call on Wednesday

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

I'd like to nominate Jesus Corrius as my deputy, and if he's not
available, Andreas Mantke or Björn Michaelsen.

Best,


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Re: [board-discuss] funding for admin weekend

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Mon, 21 May 2012 16:59:18 +0200,
Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Florian Effenberger wrote:
  The total cost for having all the 13 admins in Essen, including
  sleeping in the hotel, breakfast and having a lecture room + WiFi,
  would be around 840 € for whole weekend.
  
  What do people generally think about that? Does this sound senseful
  and would the board be willing to approve let's say 1.000 € in
  total, excluding travel fees?
  
 Yes, absolutely. Beyond that, should we fix some travel budget as
 well?
 
 Cheers,
 

Agreed from my side...

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Re: [board-discuss] budget request: audit of TDF contracts by a tax advisor

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+1 from my side.

Charles. 

Le Mon, 21 May 2012 12:34:37 -0300,
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 +1. Important, for sure.
 
 Em 21-05-2012 12:08, Thorsten Behrens escreveu:
  Hi there,
  
  for a few contracts, texts and procedures TDF has setup by now, I'd
  like to have a German tax advisor review them for being in
  accordance with our charitable status.
  
  For the time being, there are two draft contracts I'd like to have
  audited, and I've got a quote for ~1200 EUR max for that work.
  
  I'd therefore like the board to approve
  
   - at this point, a maximum of 1300 EUR -
  
  for reviewing TDF contracts by a German tax advisor.
  
  Regards,
  
 
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Re: [board-discuss] warrants for certain tasks

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1 . May I add my humble self for a liaison and membership budget
(membership fees to other orgs)?

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2012/5/3 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hello,

 since voting on each and every single expense during the BoD calls is a
 bit tedious, but required by the statutes, I would like to propose an
 alternative solution to make the daily operations a bit easier.

 In a nutshell, I would like to have the board appoint responsibilities to
 not only, but mainly, BoD members. As an example:

- Thorsten and Florian for administrative issues
- Alex (from the admin team) and Florian for infrastructure topics
- Michael and Caolan for development resources
- Italo for marketing projects

 and so on. Every area gets a fixed budget, either per month, quarter or
 year, and if the goals fit into the statutes, the tax law and the
 foundation's objectives, upon approval of one of the responsible parties,
 the money can be spent without the need to have a formal BoD vote.

 Excluded should be long-term contracts and anything that is not part of
 the daily operations, like entering 10 year contracts fors infrastructure,
 signing exclusive advertising deals and so on - you get the point. ;-)

 Real life examples: Signing the contract with a new domain registrar,
 buying a bunch of new domain names, ordering the SMS gateway, or buying one
 additional machine is something the board could leave at my discretion for
 infrastructure. Making expenses for the tax advisor is something the board
 could leave at Thorsten's discretion, and buying one development machine or
 buying required software is something Michael and Caolan could decide.

 Things like capital investments, trademark registrations, establishing a
 certification program and other non-daily operations would still require
 the approval of the full board.

 While the above is no readily written proposal to formally vote upon and
 issue warrants, what do you generally think about it? I think if we limit
 the amount to a senseful value, and have the budget on the radar, this is
 something that would ease our daily operations and give people a bit more
 flexibility, so we can focus on work rather than administration.

 The German FrODeV e.V. has a similar rule in their rules of procedure
 (Geschäftsordnung), but they forsee a veto time of four working days,
 which I'd like to either shorten for TDF or even avoid at all.

 By the way, this is something that should not go into our community bylaws
 or the rules of procedure, since changing it then has some hurdles, so an
 individual decision of the BoD that can be changed or revoked anytime makes
 sense.

 Florian

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Re: [board-discuss] Stiftungstag in Erfurt

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:01:37 +0200,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hello,
 
 is anyone from the board or other TDF officials interested in joining 
 the Stiftungstag in Erfurt, Germany? It's a meeting of many 
 foundations, organized by the German head association of foundations, 
 from June 20th to 22nd.
 
 It probably only makes sense for German-speaking attendees, since
 that will be the main language. I can't make it, since on the 22nd I
 am already on my way to Hof and cannot afford to be away a whole week.
 
 The fee is 250 €, with a discount of 20 € if we book until April 30th 
 (not including hotel and travel).
 
 Florian
 

Shouldn't Michael S go?

Best,

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Re: [board-discuss] Minutes of the 21st of March BoD call

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Florian,

They look good to me, thank you again for your input!

Best,
Charles.

2012/4/8 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hello,


 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2012-03-29 14:46:

  Please find the minutes of the BoD call of the 21st of March. The wiki
 has been updated accordingly.


 thanks for that, Charles, and sorry for my delay in having a look! I've
 made some modifications, mostly layout-related. Charles, please give me an
 OK if you are comfortable with the below minutes, I will then officially
 approve them, prepare the mail to be archived, add the decisions plus the
 minutes to the wiki and WebDAV.

 Florian




 The Document Foundation
 Board of Directors Meeting
 Call Minutes

 Date: Wednesday, March 21st 2012
 Location: Phone conference room

 Keeper of the minutes: Charles-H. Schulz (Board of Directors)
 Session chair: Florian Effenberger (Chairman of the Board)

 Attending: Florian Effenberger (Chairman of the Board), Thorsten Behrens
 (Deputy Chairman of the Board), Olivier Hallot (Board of Directors),
 Charles Schulz (Board of Directors), Michael Meeks (Board of Directors),
 Italo Vignoli (Board of Directors), Björn Michaelsen (Board of Directors
 Deputy),  Andreas Mantke (Board of Directors Deputy)


 Representation: None. No representative represents more than one person.

 Chairman of the Board and Deputy Chairman are in the call. One of them is
 required to be present or represented for having a quorate call.

 The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders
 without deputies.
 In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of the Board of
 Directors members, which gives 4.
 A total of 6 Board of Directors members are attending the call.

 The call is quorate.

 From now on, a quorum can be reached with a simple majority of 4 votes.


 1. Vote on infrastructure replacement

 Florian requests budget for replacing two old servers, plus buying one
 additional including a Gbit port, plus buying additional IPs. 5.450 € is
 the amount for infrastructure costs currently planned in for the rest of
 the year. Florian suggests 1.672 € to be spent extra for servers.

 Request: Replacement of two machines (one will then be cheaper and one
 will then be more expensive compared to now).

 Result of vote: 6 approvals, 0 neutral, 0 disapprovals.

 Decision: The request has been accepted.


 In addition, an extra machine for the download system based on MirrorBrain
 is needed. Michael suggests we could have a sponsored machine. In case we
 could not have that, 108 € per month and 149 € one time fee for a new
 machine would be needed.

 Request: Try to get sponsoring, otherwise buy an additional machine.

 Result of vote: 6 approvals, 0 neutral, 0 disapprovals.

 Decision: The request has been accepted.


 In addition, a new set of IP addresses for one specific server is needed.
 In case no sponsor is found, it would cost 26,20 € per month.

 Request: Try to get sponsoring, otherwise buy additional IP ddresses.

 Result of vote: 6 approvals, 0 neutral, 0 disapprovals.

 Decision: The request has been accepted.


 2. Making the budget public

 The budget draft shall be made public. Only the identity of the AB members
 and their specific donations will not be disclosed. BoD agreed unanimously.



 3. Cash Account for TDF (Björn)

 The money currently hold on our behalf by FrODeV shall be transferred to a
 proper account belonging to TDF, and then the capital stock of 50.000 €
 will  be transferred to a savings account. We must check the statutes to
 make sure we can do that. BoD has agreed to deposit the 50.000 € of the
 capital stock to a regular savings account. Björn, Andreas, Thorsten and
 Florian are working on that.


 4. Approval of sponsoring for hackfest

 A t-shirt manufacturer proposes to offer 5 shirts at a value of 20 € each
 for the hackfest. They require a mention in the blog entry we will write
 for the hackfest. BoD unanimously agrees to this.


 5. Approval of travel refund

 No formal vote on this took place, but the decision was made to pay
 through SPI the various travel refund requests.


 6. TDF certification

 Italo outlined the upcoming certification process and certification
 announcements. The first certified members ought to be ready by April, but
 we will have to raise comments on this. Italo to send out in document on
 this in the coming days.

 --
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[board-discuss] Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] SouthEast LinuxFest 2012 Charlotte, NC June 8-10

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Some funding request to consider at tomorrow's BoD Call...

Best,
Charles.
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Date : 3 avr. 2012 18:58
Objet : Re: [libreoffice-marketing] SouthEast LinuxFest 2012 Charlotte, NC
June 8-10
À : market...@global.libreoffice.org
Cc : christopher.penal...@gmx.com

On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 21:16 -0400, Christopher Penalver wrote:
 Hello everyone. I just wanted to inform you of a great opportunity for
The Document Foundation to market LibreOffice in the US, at the SouthEast
LinuxFest 2012 Charlotte, NC June 8-10.

  http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/

  It's a pretty massive event. As well, as per
http://wiki.southeastlinuxfest.org/index.php/Vendor_Prospectus#.org_.2F_.eduit's
only $50 to have a table if one is representing a non-profit
organization.

  I'm going to be attending the event. I am happy to help coordinate a
table or whatever I can help with.

  Let me know if this sounds interesting.

Hello Christopher,

I think it is a very good idea to have a table at the festival.

The festival organizers, having received email from them recently, are
hoping the Document Foundation would do so - and have offered once again
to make the table (with internet feed) available for the foundation's
use gratis.

If you would willing to work on this it would be great and I'm sure
others, including myself, will help.

So, to start: If you are willing to commit to helping staff a table for
at least one day then I think we should confirm the offer and get about
putting it together.

Shall I do so?

Secondly - it is very short now, but they are still willing to look at a
TDF/LibreOffice presentation.

For the moment, though, let's just make sure about the table, and then
jump in on the rest.

Best wishes,

//drew



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Re: [board-discuss] RRPproxy domain account

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:11:24 +0200,
Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Michael Meeks wrote:
  On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 15:25 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
  Next to taking over the DomainDiscount24 contract, I'd therefore
  like the BoD to vote on signing a contract with RRPproxy.
  I need some votes on this... ;-)
  
  So you have my support: +1 :-)
 
 +1
 

+1

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Re: [board-discuss] PayPal account

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:03:12 +,
Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com a écrit :

 
 On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 19:34 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
  I'd like to call the board for a vote on the creation of a PayPal 
  account for the new entity. I would like to create the appropriate 
  account at PayPal (charity, and if that is not available, business
  account).
 
   +1 - thanks for doing that Florian ! :-)
 
   ATB,
 
   Michael.
 

+1, may I suggest that when we'll have more time we also think about
alternative solutions to Paypal?

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Re: [board-discuss] StartSSL certification

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:15:25 +0100,
Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com a écrit :

  Florian Effenberger wrote:
  I propose that I act as certificate master, and request that I may
  do so on behalf of TDF, with total fees of 119,80 USD for this
  year.
 
  +1 from my side
 
 +1
 

+1

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Re: [board-discuss] Re: Community Bylaws

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Thank you David. I need to work on them actually :-)

Charles.
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 Hi Charles,

 If you'd like someone to act as proofreader, I'll be delighted to help
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[board-discuss] Re: Community Bylaws

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Hello Florian,

Le Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:32:42 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Charles-H.Schulz wrote on 2012-02-06 18:25:
 
  Private sending first. Attached are a set of similar yet simplified
  community bylaws. What was modified:
 
 sorry for being so late on this, Charles. Replying in public, since I 
 think the topic is interesting to everyone.
 
 Our statutes (http://documentfoundation.org/statutes.pdf) foresee at 
 various places, that we have so-called Community Bylaws. Although the 
 same term is used, it is not necessarily the same as we have
 currently in the wiki. The wiki page of the same title served as
 basis for the statutes, so some parts have already been incorporated.
 
 The main points in the statutes where the Community Bylaws are
 mentioned are the following:
 
 - § 10 III 1: Further details on admittance or exclusion from the
 board of trustees shall be regulated in the community bylaws, which
 are enacted by the board of directors.
 
 - § 12 V: Details on admittance and exclusion from the membership 
 committee shall be regulated in the bylaws which are enacted by the 
 board of directors.
 
 I think we should start with a blank document that only contains 
 regulations as outlined above. It does not harm if we add some more
 to this document. However, keep in mind the following things:
 
 1. Nothing that's already mentioned in the statutes should be
 mentioned again in the bylaws.
 

I disagree ; we need clear bylaws that are easily understandable by
everyone. 


 2. Regulations in the bylaws cannot be contradictory to the statutes.

Sure that is very important. 

 
 3. After the initial set-up, per § 10 III 2 the board can *not* just 
 change them. We need a vote by the members, and looking at the 
 participation rate during the LibOCon voting, we should not expect
 that everyone replies upon first request. ;-)

But it makes sense anyway :-)
 
 So, my proposal would be to start with a lightweight Community
 Bylaws. Other best practices might fit into separate documents that
 are not subject to such requirements.

Well, I disagree. I think that if you look at our present bylaws
they're mostly valid but only specific things need to be modified and
simplified.

Best,
Charles. 

 
 Florian
 



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Re: [board-discuss] Reminder: BoD confcall tomorrow 1600 UTC

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Le Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:29:34 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hello,
 
 this is a short reminder that the next BoD confcall takes place
 tomorrow at 1600 UTC. Dial-in details are at the usual place in the
 wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Meetings
 
 As usual, I'd like to ask all BoD members to dial-in as conference 
 managers with the data provided in the intranet.
 
 Also remember to read the statutes before the call, and to have a
 look at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Tasks
 
 Thanks,
 Florian
 

I'll be there but I'll have to disconnect at 17:30 as I have an
important call I have to take but I will reconnect after that.

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Re: [board-discuss] Reminder: BoD confcall tomorrow 1600 UTC

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Le Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:49:06 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2012-02-21 15:44:
  I'll be there but I'll have to disconnect at 17:30 as I have an
  important call I have to take but I will reconnect after that.
 
 talking about that, this brings me to another topic: It's important
 that all of you mention when you join and leave during the call -
 last time Jesus wrote afterwards he listened, but we cannot count
 that. Since we need a quorum, and now need to take minutes carefully,
 so we need to precisely know who of the BoD is in and out at what
 time. :)
 
 Florian
 

Okay, I'll make unmistakable noises ;-)

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Re: [board-discuss] Moving forward on the partner NGOs

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Le Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:18:03 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Simon Phipps wrote on 2012-02-16 15:16:
  As soon as TDF is formally incorporated, I would love to see it
  apply to become an Affiliate of OSI[1].
 
 that might indeed make sense. Thanks for raising! Let's put it onto a 
 call agenda next week or so.
 
 Florian
 

Indeed, I think it'd be great to join the OSI. But I would also like to
give the NGOs who work with us as a community some acknowledgement, and
I think we should move forward on this.

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Re: [board-discuss] Seeking approval for server procurement

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Le Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:30:16 +,
Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com a écrit :

 
 On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 12:31 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
  TDF has received a generous, targetted donation of $3000 to procure
 
   Lovely :-)
 
  I hereby request the board to approve the purchase of a suitable
  box, for up to $3000.
 
   Excellent by me :-)
 
   Thanks,
 
   Michael.
 

+1

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Re: [board-discuss] New members

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Le Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:36:06 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hello,
 
 André Schnabel wrote on 2012-01-09 20:05:
  back from the end of the year vacations, the MC started to process
  membership applications.
 
 a very warm welcome also from my side - thanks for joining
 LibreOffice and TDF, looking forward to working with you!
 
 Florian
 

 1 :-)

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Re: [board-discuss] FOSDEM travel funding

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Le Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:41:07 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi Tom,
 
 Tom Davies wrote on 2012-01-09 17:19:
  Blimey!!  Given the work you do here i hope the BoD is able to
  stump-up the extra 100 to save you the 8hours journey!!  It'd be
  more cost-effective to get you the shorter flight so that you are
  not worn out (at either end) by the  trip!
 
 thanks for your kind words of support, much appreciated! ;)
 
 I do think that spending 300 € just for getting me there for a two
 day event is hard to justify, since the regular flight price the last
 years was about 120 €. After all, it was my fault being late with
 researching flights, and we have so many active people around the
 globe, so we should spend our money wisely.
 
 However, thanks to a tip I've found a flight for 242 € that goes 
 directly from Munich to Brussels, so if I can organize a cheap hotel 
 room, that amount might be inside the range that could be justified.
 


Well, I think your travel costs should be reimbursed in any case :-)

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Re: [board-discuss] Electing a BoD chairperson and it's deputy

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Same here.

Best,

Charles.
Le 1 déc. 2011 20:19, Olivier Hallot 
olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi All

 My vote is for Florian Effenberger as Chairman and Thorsten Behrens as
 Chairman Deputy.

 Thanks you guys for the dedication and work.

 Olivier

 Em 01-12-2011 16:55, André Schnabel escreveu:

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 Dear Board members,

 according to the current draft of the foundation's legal statutes (as
 proposed to the German authorities), the foundation's board shall elect
 a chairperson and the chairperson's deputy among the board's members.

 In short - these will be the primary legal representatives of the
 foundation. While having no special power, legal contracts need to be
 signed by one of the board members together with either the chairperson
 or it's deputy. ( Beyond that, the board can decide to give procuration
 to individual board members.)

 As we are going to file the papers really soon, I'd ask the board
 members to elect

 Florian Effenberger  as chairman of the board
 and
Thorsten Behrens as his deputy.

 During the board elections Florian and Thorsten were the candidates who
 reached the highest vote rank. Florian is for sure one of our most
 active members doing great work in marketing, is coordinating our admin
 team and did lots of preparations for the legal setup of the foundation.
 Thorsten is well known and accepted among developers (and not only there
 ;) ), and also helped a lot preparing the legal setup of the foundation.

 I think, my suggestions in the interest of the board members and all our
 TDF members.
 (If not, time to object is right now ;) )


 Thanks and regards,

 André
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Re: [board-discuss] Support of the askbot translation process

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+1 to let volunteers translate askbot. We could perhaps insert a clause
here that would require a simple reevaluation in one year from now?

Best,
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Le 1 déc. 2011 20:51, Olivier Hallot 
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 Em 01-12-2011 17:32, Florian Effenberger escreveu:


  project on our pootle server and permitting the developers of askbot
 access to the project. Our l10n teams are then asked to contribute to
 the translation of aksbot.

 Should the translation of the askbot project be supported by creating a

 If this is technically doable: +1

 Florian


 I also would like to say that I am OK to offer our resources, time and
 knowledge to projects we are benefiting from (e.g.AskBot). But not to host
 any project that call for the same resources if we don't use it, or if TDF
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Re: [board-discuss] MC Chairperson

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Congratulations André!

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Re: [board-discuss] poll on regular BoD times

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Hello Florian,

2011/11/11 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hello,


 Florian Effenberger wrote on 2011-11-09 12:26:

  I'll close the poll this Friday, so cast or edit your vote until then.
 The link, again, is

 http://www.doodle.com/**rqay5h7syg45by9xhttp://www.doodle.com/rqay5h7syg45by9x


 looking at the poll, the following times seem to be ideal:

 - Monday or Wednesday 1700 UTC (9 OK)
 - Monday or Wednesday 1600 UTC (7 OK, 3 if necessary)

 First conclusion: We should only plan for one time during the week, since
 the weekend proposals are not possible for as many people as the proposals
 during the week. Plus, we all deserve a free weekend. ;-)

 Second conclusion: While at the 1700 UTC time slot, it would be OK instead
 of if necessary for more people, for the BoD without deputies, the
 timeslot at 1600 UTC is more convenient, plus in total more people in total
 can participate.

 My proposal therefore is:

 We host the calls every other week (i.e. every two weeks), Wednesday, 1600
 UTC.

 For the weeks without calls, we reserve the time slot, in case we need an
 ad-hoc call.

 Does this sound good to everyone?



It does to me. Just to put in in one sentence:
BoD calls on Wednesday every 2 weeks at 16:00 UTC; we can have more
frequent calls if needed at the same schedule or have other calls on that
schedule.

Best,

Charles.




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Re: [board-discuss] Re: Vote for MC elections

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Hi,

2011/11/8 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hi,

 Cor Nouws wrote on 2011-11-07 23:14:

  Currently I'm not able to follow any discussion on numbers, but it would
 be my suggestion to accept Drew his kind offer to help in the MC


 still we need clarification if we need some more people. ;-)



I think it would be perhaps ungraceful at this stage to refuse more people,
although it's true that, on the other hand, we already have a working MC.
It's not a practical matter here.

best,
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Re: [board-discuss] Vote for MC ...

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Le Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:55:04 +0100,
Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Michael Meeks wrote:
 
  Members: (5)
  Andre Schnabel
  Fridrich Strba
  Norbert Thiebaud
  Simon Phipps
  Sophie Gautier
  Deputies: (2)
  Cor Nouws
  Drew Jensen
 
 +1
 

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Re: [board-discuss] poll on regular BoD times

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Hello Florian,
Hello Florian,

Le Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:18:43 +0100,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hi,
 
 Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2011-11-07 09:42:
  Hi Flo, Charles - while I agree that a call every week may not be
  necessary, I guess Florian's point was that*a single*  date may well
  not accomodate a set of people*constantly*. I thought the idea was
  to have different sets of people to be slightly inconvenienced/not
  able to attend alternatingly.
 
  With that, I think both points are orthogonal. Yes, let's have less
  frequent calls (maybe starting after the foundation is established),
  and let's have*two*  dates for the calls (unless the folks not able
  to make Wednesday evenings can re-consider).
 
 I was indeed also thinking about having less frequent calls, but 
 Thorsten's point is true as well:
 
 Some people cannot make it during the week, others cannot make it
 during the weekend. So, I'd like to have one call Monday to Friday in
 the evenings (European time),

you mean late afternoon  such as 5 or 6 pm?

 and one Saturday or Sunday (preferably
 during the afternoon European time, but depends on the other time
 zones, of course), so at least everyone has a fair chance to join.
 
 Since we also want to have again marketing calls, and there is also a 
 TSC call, I don't want to bind people to their telephone too long and 
 often. ;-)
 
 How about the following? We decide, based on the poll, on one time 
 during the week, and one during the weekend. Then we do calls the 
 following way:
 
 Week 1: during the week
 Week 2: no call
 Week 3: during the weekend
 Week 4: no call
 
 In case that in week #2 a call is needed, the same time as week #1 is 
 used for this ad-hoc call. In case in week #4 a call is needed, the
 time of week #3 is used for this ad-hoc call.
 
 That way, we have fixed times, people can plan their availability,
 but we only do a call every two weeks unless we need more.
 
 Sounds reasonable?


Actually it does.

Best,
Charles. 

 
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Re: [board-discuss] poll on regular BoD times

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Wow folks, that's weird. I had posted my schedule from my mobile and it
seems I missed lots of options... I'll fix it asap.

Best,
Charles.
Le 7 nov. 2011 18:34, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com a écrit :


 On Sun, 2011-11-06 at 13:14 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote:
  it seems we didn't yet come up with a solution. Everyone voted (thanks
  for that!), and e.g. Wednesday 1600 UTC looks rather good, with 7 people
  joining and 2 possibly, giving a total of 9.

Right.

  On the weekend, however, it looks rather bad.

Again - I don't believe using the weekend as an idea to get more
 people
 into the call is a great idea :-) particularly if it means making the
 time of the call erratic: with some long weeks Wed - next Sat, and some
 short Sat - Wed (or whatever).

So I'd really suggest a regular call, the same time every week, and
 if
 we only take 30mins each time - that is of course fine. Somehow the TSC
 call manages to take nearly 1hr nearly every week - though perhaps that
 is bad time-keeping ;-)

  I am fine if we don't do one on the weekends, but wanted to give
  everyone a chance again in case two times in the evening is not desired.

It seems the hardest people to get are Andreas and Charles -
 Andreas/Charles: did you notice the 'orange' (-might-be-able-to) state ?
 (I see you didn't use it).

http://doodle.com/rqay5h7syg45by9x

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Re: [board-discuss] poll on regular BoD times

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Florian,

Le 06/11/2011 13:14, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 it seems we didn't yet come up with a solution. Everyone voted (thanks
 for that!), and e.g. Wednesday 1600 UTC looks rather good, with 7 people
 joining and 2 possibly, giving a total of 9.
 
 On the weekend, however, it looks rather bad. Neither Saturday nor
 Sunday has many people who could join a call. Please everyone check your
 availability again. With the current results, we could e.g. do Wednesday
 1600 UTC and Friday 1500 UTC, but no real weekend call.
 
 I am fine if we don't do one on the weekends, but wanted to give
 everyone a chance again in case two times in the evening is not desired.
 
 The poll is at
 
 http://doodle.com/rqay5h7syg45by9x
 
 Thanks, and have a nice Sunday,
 Florian
 

May I propose an alternative solution?
I was actually wondering if we would always need one call every week. We
had a year of setup phase and obviously we still have much work to do,
however, if we see things 6 months down the road maybe the BoD won't
have to gather that often and sometimes it's best to have one call every
two weeks with everyone available that short calls each week. I have no
strong opinion here, only a comment that the problem at hand might not
be a real problem.

Best,
Charles.

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Re: [steering-discuss] size of to be elected MC

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Hello Simon,

Le 30/10/2011 10:27, Simon Phipps a écrit :
 
 On 29 Oct 2011, at 17:47, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 
 Hello,

 following today's SC/BoD phone conference, I'd hereby like to propose, based 
 on André's suggestion, that the to be elected membership committee will 
 consist of

  five regular members
  plus two deputies

 Based on the statutes, the BoD is in charge of defining the size of the MC, 
 with the limitations of having at least three people, and not more than 10% 
 of the total members (i.e. 13-15 people right now, IIRC).

 I'd ask all BoD members to vote on the above proposal. My vote: +1
 
 Question: Are you proposing any limits on corporate affiliation here?  I 
 suggest the same rules as for the BoD apply.


Good point. In theory it is already addressed by our general rules on
conflict of interest but it could be restressed just to be clear.

best,
Charles.



 
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Re: [steering-discuss] size of to be elected MC

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1, although deputies may not be mandatory.

Best,
Charles.
Le 29 oct. 2011 23:49, Olivier Hallot 
olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 +1

 Em 29-10-2011 14:47, Florian Effenberger escreveu:

 Hello,

 following today's SC/BoD phone conference, I'd hereby like to propose,
 based on André's suggestion, that the to be elected membership committee
 will consist of

five regular members
plus two deputies

 Based on the statutes, the BoD is in charge of defining the size of the
 MC, with the limitations of having at least three people, and not more than
 10% of the total members (i.e. 13-15 people right now, IIRC).

 I'd ask all BoD members to vote on the above proposal. My vote: +1

 Thanks,
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[steering-discuss] Re: confcall tomorrow

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Folks,

Le Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:45:38 +0200,
Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On 10/28/2011 12:05 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 
  tomorrow, at 1400 UTC, the next conference call takes place. Right
  now, we are in a transition phase from the Steering Committee to
  the Board of Directors, so I would like to explicitly invite those
  who are new with us to join this call. It would be ideal if we had
  most SC and BoD members to hand over the duties.
 
 I might have REAL problems in getting a connection, as I am in Prague 
 and I definitely cannot use my mobile to make the call (as it will
 cost a fortune). I will try to find a place with a free wifi
 connection, to use either skype or my voip provider to make the call.
 
 Just in case, I will share my thoughts on the agenda later today.
 
 I am still trying to make up my mind after the LO conference and the 
 LinuxCon. We must leverage our visibility in the Linux environment,
 and improve it in the Windows environment.
 
 Here in Prague, I've been approached by several Oracle people who
 told me I've read quite many articles about you, and I just wanted
 to shake hands
 
 Also, all the media I have met have been enthusiastic about our PR 
 activity, which means that we must improve it and make it even better 
 than it actually is (in my opinion, it has been extremely good for
 free software standards but just average for professional PR
 standards).
 
 Anyway, lots of information and thoughts to digest as soon as I will
 be able to stop for a few minutes in front of a keyboard.
 
 Ciao, Italo
 

And I just got the news that a family reunion I thought would start
around 6:30 would actually start much earlier, around 15:30. So I won't
be available... this sucks. I'll do better next time.

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Re: [steering-discuss] minutes missing

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le 20/10/2011 11:14, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 having a look at
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Meeting_minutes,
 there seem to be missing minutes from the last four calls.
 
 Anyone working on that?
 
 Florian
 


I am definitely one of the culprits (not the only one) so let me see if
I found them..

Best,
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Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello David,


Le 09/10/2011 16:02, David Nelson a écrit :
 Hi Simon,
 
 On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Simon Phipps
 webm...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 I am indicating that questions about development plans and intentions fall 
 outside the scope of questions for Board candidates as regards their 
 suitability for election, as the role of directors[1] does not include 
 development tasks. I'm inviting you to note that observation and save your 
 valid but out-of-scope question for later. I am not censoring you at this 
 point as I hope you will choose to desist voluntarily.
 
 I have put my questions to the candidates. I am hoping that they are
 going to answer.
 
 I object to your arbitrary judgement that my questions are out of scope.
 
 They are perfectly reasonable, perfectly friendly and perfectly
 courteous questions, in response to an invitation to ask questions.
 
 I hope you are not going to blemish this first election with
 thoughtlessness and unnecessary declarations that go against the
 freedom of expression that the bylaws stand for.
 
 It would have been so much simpler if the candidates had been allowed
 to answer for themselves.
 

No big and high words please :)
What we're trying to say is that the functions of a BoD member do not
relate to these matters. Your question is indeed valid but is simply out
of context, because it is not up to the BoD members to decide these
questions or to take part in this kind of work because they would be BoD
members. That's all...

Best,
Charles.

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Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello David,

Le Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:39:13 +0300,
David Nelson li...@traduction.biz a écrit :

 Hi Italo,
 
 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Italo Vignoli
 italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
  I do not think that this discussion should happen during the
  election time, as it might have an influence on the election
  outcome based on parametres which are not relevant for being a
  director (based on bylaws).
 
 I regret that I don't really agree. People are standing as candidates
 for the BoD and TDF members have a right to ask questions and learn
 what candidate's policies and attitudes are with regard to issues of
 concrete importance to the community...
 
 It's for sure that candidates answers to community members' questions
 should indeed have an influence on the outcome of the election, no?
 ;-)
 

I'll let the candidates you have asked your question to answer. I had
one question for you though: will you be in Paris next week?

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Re: [steering-discuss] SC call on 15th

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Florian,

2011/10/7 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hello,

 following our usual schedule, the next SC call would be on Saturday, 15th.
 However, since most of us are still in Paris there, and will meet in person,
 I propose we adjourn that call, so the next SC call will be on Wednesday,
 19th.

 Any objections?



Agreed.

Best,
Charles.



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Re: [steering-discuss] Proposal: Optional local NGO donation links on download and extension pages

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Hello Thorsten,

2011/9/26 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl

 Hi Thorsten, *,

 Thorsten Behrens wrote (22-09-11 10:28)

  [...]

 The generic english pages will not be affected by this proposal.

 A local, native-lang NGO, that is in good standing with TDF, and
 fulfills the following prerequisites

  * has at least three NGO members, that are accepted TDF members at
the same time
  * is an non-profit organisation
  * has, in the past year, organised or participated in at least one
local or native-lang event, that was promoting or helping
LibreOffice

 can ask for having their donation details listed on the native lang


 Sounds good to me.
 In my experience, local/native language groups have a broad variety in
 membership/activities. And with the criteria mentioned, there is room for
 that variety.


  download and extension pages, below the generic TDF one. Multiple
 NGOs per native-lang category can apply, and are listed in order of
 application.

 Listed NGOs are reviewed after one year.

 Let's have this approved as a preliminary rule, and refine it during
 the LibreOffice conference.


 +1



+1

Best,
Charles.

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[steering-discuss] Running for a seat at the BoD

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello everyone,

My name is Charles-H. Schulz (the H stands for Henri) and I am writing
to let you know that I intend to run for a seat at the Board of Directors of
the Document Foundation.

I have been actively working towards creating and growing the LibreOffice
project since the beginning and I am also active in the field of
OpenDocument Format Standardization and Adoption.I'm also currently one of
the directors of the OASIS consortium.

I would like to continue the work I started at teh Steering Committee and
more particularly focus on the strategy of the Foundation, the daily
operations and the relations with our Advisory Board members.

My address is charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org , I am a founding
partner at Ars Aperta (www.arsaperta.com) which is my primary affiliation,
and I welcome questions if you have any.

Sincerely,

Charles-H. Schulz.

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Re: [steering-discuss] Off-topic - please move to discuss@

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Hello Ian, Tom, Paulo,

2011/9/13 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com

 
   The general notion here was that
   having a separate Base list would not serve the purpose - so what
   other, concrete proposals are there to discuss within the SC?
 
  The general notion you're saying, IMHO, comes from people who are not
  directly involved in Base's issue itself. How many of those people who
 are
  saying no to the creation of the new list will be directly working on
  Base?
 
   If there are none yet, I'd indeed appreciate it if general
   brainstorming would *not* happen on this list.
 
  Maybe you should invite people who are willing to contribute on Base to
  jump
  in this discussion, wherever it should happen.
 

 Why would a Base list not help? It would at least provide a potential
 focus?
 So providing a Base list seems like a concrete proposal :-)


Concrete proposals are:

- a bugfix
- a patch for a new feature (might be matching one or more easy hacks)
- bug reports
- UX testing
- marketing collaterals
- Design Requests For Enhancements studies
- documentation writing
- localization work

The rest is not a concrete proposal. A concrete proposal of a new mailing
list is nothing. It's an invitation to talk, and talk is *very cheap*.
Talking is not doing. Talking is not contributing. As far as I can see no
one of the several volunteers demanding a Base mailing list are doing
anything of the above. You have a patch? you have code? you have bug
reports? Do you have anything of the above? If you have anything of the
above, you will realize something: it's already happening  and being
documented through a mailing list :-)

Thanks,

Charles.

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Re: [steering-discuss] Off-topic - please move to discuss@

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Ian,

2011/9/13 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com

 On 13 September 2011 13:32, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

  Hello Ian, Tom, Paulo,
 
  2011/9/13 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com
 
 The general notion here was that
 having a separate Base list would not serve the purpose - so what
 other, concrete proposals are there to discuss within the SC?
   
The general notion you're saying, IMHO, comes from people who are not
directly involved in Base's issue itself. How many of those people
 who
   are
saying no to the creation of the new list will be directly working
 on
Base?
   
 If there are none yet, I'd indeed appreciate it if general
 brainstorming would *not* happen on this list.
   
Maybe you should invite people who are willing to contribute on Base
 to
jump
in this discussion, wherever it should happen.
   
  
   Why would a Base list not help? It would at least provide a potential
   focus?
   So providing a Base list seems like a concrete proposal :-)
  
  
  Concrete proposals are:
 
  - a bugfix
  - a patch for a new feature (might be matching one or more easy hacks)
  - bug reports
  - UX testing
  - marketing collaterals
  - Design Requests For Enhancements studies
  - documentation writing
  - localization work
 
  The rest is not a concrete proposal. A concrete proposal of a new mailing
  list is nothing. It's an invitation to talk, and talk is *very cheap*.
 

 Charles I have now had 2 responses from you in the last few minutes which
 have a tone that seems at best pretty negative. I'm not sure why you are
 upset with me. I certainly know talk is cheap, but then courtesy doesn't
 cost anything either.

 Don't worry, I will go to places where things are a little more cordial.


I'm sorry if my answer(s) sounded unpolite. They're not only meant to be
clear.

best,
Charles.


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Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?

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Hello Tom,


2011/9/11 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 A few people have asked about starting up a new mailing list to try to
 bring together people that want to work on Base.  People from Documentation,
 Developers perhaps later on some people from Design.

 At the moment there are people that want to work on Base but each is
 isolated and 'waiting' for people on other teams to do things that need to
 be done before they can start.

 Could we start up a new mailing list to allow cross-group collaboration on
 Base?  Who should i ask to set it up?  Should i ask the web team?
 Regards from
 Tom :)

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what would be the goal of such a list beyond bringing people together? Do
you have team(s) of volunteers from documentation, development and design
ready to take action ? I'm a bit concerned that one more mailing list is not
going to magically solve Base's lack of contributors...

Best,
Charles.

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Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?

[Charles-H. Schulz]

How about the discuss@ list with a [Base] prefix?

Best,
Charles.

2011/9/11 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 No, it's a few individuals scattered across a few different lists.
 Bringing the few people together might be enough to help them start getting
 some work done.  One more mailing list might not be enough but it could be a
 good start.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


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 From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?
 To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
 Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 15:04

 Hello Tom,


 2011/9/11 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

  Hi :)
  A few people have asked about starting up a new mailing list to try to
  bring together people that want to work on Base.  People from
 Documentation,
  Developers perhaps later on some people from Design.
 
  At the moment there are people that want to work on Base but each is
  isolated and 'waiting' for people on other teams to do things that need
 to
  be done before they can start.
 
  Could we start up a new mailing list to allow cross-group collaboration
 on
  Base?  Who should i ask to set it up?  Should i ask the web team?
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
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 not
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 Best,
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Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?

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Don't be sorry. First of all, it's all imho. Second, it's not that it's
too much trouble. It's a matter of management and efficiency. Small and
large FOSS projects tend to be rather conservative when it comes to opening
new lists and the way it's supposed to work is not that if you have a
mailing list, something will happen, but the opposite (if something happens
with enough momentum it becomes threads and threads of discussion and actual
work, then create a mailing list). The risk is that you end up with twenty
different mailing list you won't follow,but worse, most of these mailing
lists won't have an actual workig purpose.I think if there's a team that is
fixing bugs on Base and liaising with documentation volunteers right now but
facing communication issues, then there might be an interest. On the other
hand, these things tend to evolve overtime and the situation can change :-)
...

best,
Charles.

2011/9/11 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 Ok, sorry i asked.  If it's too much trouble to set up a list then it's not
 worth it.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sun, 11/9/11, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?
 To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
 Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 15:58

 I thought everyone was on discuss@. However your argument of yet another
 list is almost a contradiction with your initial request. And I'm sure if
 there's an interest to work on Base, then people will cope with being on an
 existing list.

 best,
 Charles.

 2011/9/11 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

  Hi :)
  People are often unwilling to join yet another list as it would mean
 having
  to deal with a ton of irrelevant emails.  Individuals might be willing to
  join a low-traffic list specific to Base but not yet another list  that
 just
  provides so much distraction.
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
  --- On Sun, 11/9/11, Charles-H. Schulz 
  charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 
  From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
  Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?
  To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
  Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 15:43
 
  How about the discuss@ list with a [Base] prefix?
 
  Best,
  Charles.
 
  2011/9/11 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 
   Hi :)
   No, it's a few individuals scattered across a few different lists.
   Bringing the few people together might be enough to help them start
  getting
   some work done.  One more mailing list might not be enough but it could
  be a
   good start.
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
   --- On Sun, 11/9/11, Charles-H. Schulz 
   charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
  
   From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
   Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?
   To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
   Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 15:04
  
   Hello Tom,
  
  
   2011/9/11 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
  
Hi :)
A few people have asked about starting up a new mailing list to try
 to
bring together people that want to work on Base.  People from
   Documentation,
Developers perhaps later on some people from Design.
   
At the moment there are people that want to work on Base but each is
isolated and 'waiting' for people on other teams to do things that
 need
   to
be done before they can start.
   
Could we start up a new mailing list to allow cross-group
 collaboration
   on
Base?  Who should i ask to set it up?  Should i ask the web team?
Regards from
Tom :)
   
--
  
  
  
   what would be the goal of such a list beyond bringing people
 together?
  Do
   you have team(s) of volunteers from documentation, development and
 design
   ready to take action ? I'm a bit concerned that one more mailing list
 is
   not
   going to magically solve Base's lack of contributors...
  
   Best,
   Charles.
  
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Re: [steering-discuss] Certification of end-user skills

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Ian,

While I do not know how well TDF certification fits with respect to your
project (I suspect there's some overlap but there are also lots of
differences in terms of audience and purpose) I think it would be a good
idea for you to use the LibreOffice logo , as it can only benefit TDF,
LibreOffice and your company. My only conditions would of course be no
exclusivity (i.e the respective parties are not tied in any sort of
exclusive agreement) and that it does not preclude any future
certification of our own.

Best,
Charles.


Le 04/09/2011 11:40, Ian Lynch a écrit :
 Background
 
 As many will know we have been working on FOSS friendly qualifications for
 end-users for several years now through the INGOT project. The
 qualifications and associated certificates are differentiated across 6
 levels covering all software applications from complete beginner to
 university entrance level. The assessment criteria are generic and based on
 the UK National Standards referenced to the European Qualifications
 Framework. Further, the assessment is backed by a comprehensive (Drupal +
 LAMP) on-line system for managing submission of evidence, moderation,
 progress tracking, reporting and authentication of certificates.
 
 We have been invited by the OpenOffice.org certification project to work in
 partnership with them to support a large corporate training company in
 providing certification of user skills in OpenOffice.org. This is simply a
 matter of contextualising the assessments with evidence drawn from OOo or
 products derived from that code base. The assessment criteria are no
 different from those used for any office products but the evidence has to be
 provided using OOo, LibO or other OOo based applications. In this sense
 changes to OOo or LibO are unlikely to have a material effect on the
 certification and that is a deliberate design strategy in the UK national
 frameworks. You don't want to have to potentially change things on every new
 release.
 
 The specific proposal is to use the LibO logo on end user certificates and
 the LibreOffice name and logo on the handbook with full acknowledgement of
 trade marks etc. There will be a payment back to the community for each
 certificate issued carrying a LibO logo - I can't be precise at the moment
 as we are still working out costs but it is likely to be around 50 cents to
 a dollar per certificate. We are trying to keep costs down to get maximum
 reach to less economically advantaged nations. High volume will make the
 marketing dimension more effective but we also have to cover hosting,
 quality assurance and other costs.
 
 I don't really know where LibO certification fits into this. It might not
 and if so there is no harm done, we can just carry on as before. I just
 thought this might be an opportunity for something that could be a joint
 OOo/LibO activity and a means of raising brand awareness for LibO. Since I
 fly to Ecuador with Manfred Reiter from Frankfurt in about 1.5 weeks and the
 handbook is currently being translated into Spanish by Alexandro Colorado,
 it would be helpful to have an answer as soon as possible. If anyone wants a
 copy of the draft handbook I can send it. We aim to make it available from
 Lulu in paper form, as an e-book, as a downloadable pdf and in web pages
 translated into multiple languages.
 


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Re: Res: [steering-discuss] Certification of end-user skills

[Charles-H. Schulz]

That's what I understood, but I may be wrong. Ian?

Best,
Charles.


Le 04/09/2011 18:29, Jomar Silva a écrit :
 Hi Ian,
 
 Are you planning to use both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice logos on your 
 material ?
 
 Best,
 
 Jomar
 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:40:51 
 To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
 Reply-To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
 Subject: [steering-discuss] Certification of end-user skills
 
 Background
 
 As many will know we have been working on FOSS friendly qualifications for
 end-users for several years now through the INGOT project. The
 qualifications and associated certificates are differentiated across 6
 levels covering all software applications from complete beginner to
 university entrance level. The assessment criteria are generic and based on
 the UK National Standards referenced to the European Qualifications
 Framework. Further, the assessment is backed by a comprehensive (Drupal +
 LAMP) on-line system for managing submission of evidence, moderation,
 progress tracking, reporting and authentication of certificates.
 
 We have been invited by the OpenOffice.org certification project to work in
 partnership with them to support a large corporate training company in
 providing certification of user skills in OpenOffice.org. This is simply a
 matter of contextualising the assessments with evidence drawn from OOo or
 products derived from that code base. The assessment criteria are no
 different from those used for any office products but the evidence has to be
 provided using OOo, LibO or other OOo based applications. In this sense
 changes to OOo or LibO are unlikely to have a material effect on the
 certification and that is a deliberate design strategy in the UK national
 frameworks. You don't want to have to potentially change things on every new
 release.
 
 The specific proposal is to use the LibO logo on end user certificates and
 the LibreOffice name and logo on the handbook with full acknowledgement of
 trade marks etc. There will be a payment back to the community for each
 certificate issued carrying a LibO logo - I can't be precise at the moment
 as we are still working out costs but it is likely to be around 50 cents to
 a dollar per certificate. We are trying to keep costs down to get maximum
 reach to less economically advantaged nations. High volume will make the
 marketing dimension more effective but we also have to cover hosting,
 quality assurance and other costs.
 
 I don't really know where LibO certification fits into this. It might not
 and if so there is no harm done, we can just carry on as before. I just
 thought this might be an opportunity for something that could be a joint
 OOo/LibO activity and a means of raising brand awareness for LibO. Since I
 fly to Ecuador with Manfred Reiter from Frankfurt in about 1.5 weeks and the
 handbook is currently being translated into Spanish by Alexandro Colorado,
 it would be helpful to have an answer as soon as possible. If anyone wants a
 copy of the draft handbook I can send it. We aim to make it available from
 Lulu in paper form, as an e-book, as a downloadable pdf and in web pages
 translated into multiple languages.
 


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Re: [steering-discuss] next call and Hackfest

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:48:57 +0200,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 :-)
 Well, it wouldn't be a too bad idea to have a call from there and
 meet face to face during the call, but I don't know if it makes too
 much sense to interrupt the Hackfest for that
 
 Italo Vignoli wrote on 2011-08-30 12:43:
  I was just joking;-)
 

I won't be in Munich but I think the only ongoing work, aside the
release process is the conference, and that is handled by their
respective teams, so I think it's all right not to have the call on
Saturday.

best,

-- 
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Membre du Comité exécutif
The Document Foundation.

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Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe

[Charles-H. Schulz]

+1

Charles.
Le 26 août 2011 16:17, Olivier Hallot 
olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :
 OK for the EUR 300.

 2011/8/26 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com

 My speech at the LinuxCon Europe (Prague, end of October) about The
 Document Foundation and LibreOffice has been accepted.

 I have already registered, and I have also found a very convenient
 flight/hotel combo, but I need to get a reimbursement from TDF as I am
 not able to cover the expenses with my personal money (and I am not
 covered by a company paying for my expenses).

 Including food, I will spend a maximum of 300 Euro. I am asking the
 Steering Committee to approve this reimbursement.

 Thanks, Italo

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Re: [steering-discuss] Proposal: how to use the GSoC money

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le 18/08/2011 11:40, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 thanks for all your work on this, Thorsten!
 
 Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2011-08-17 16:09:
 Proposal:
   * accept GSoC money through SPI
   * reimburse Fridrich and Cedric for their travel to the mentor
 summit
   * offer travel stipends to successful students, for the LibOCon
   * cap above expenses at $5000 (the amount we receive from Google) -
 or slightly less, does SPI charge us something for handling the
 money?
 
 From my side: +1, but...
 
 Let's discuss and (if possible) approve this on this Saturday's SC
 call.
 
 ...let's discuss it in the call. :-)
 


+1

Charles.




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Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion purpose

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello,

2011/8/12 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hello,

 let me jump in quickly with a few thoughts:

 - The set-up of this list was discussed in one of last year's steering
 commitee public conference calls, and if I remember correctly, it was even a
 demand by the community, not by the steering committee. (Which does not mean
 we do not consider it a good idea.)

 - The purpose of this list is for the steering committee to discuss on
 topics. Others of course can jump in, but let's not forget we have a discuss
 mailing list that serves what it's name has: discussion. So, the topics on
 this list indeed should *only* be related to things concerning steering
 committee decisions. Traffic on this list should be kept rather low, main
 discussions should take place on the discuss list. I myself will try to
 follow that idea better in the future, I've also swamped the
 steering-discuss list with topics that would have belonged to a different
 list.

 - Yes, there is a private list, and there are private calls. This has not
 been kept in secret, we've stated that several times at various places. We
 try to discuss as many things in public as possible, and our bylaws also
 have that we make private items public when possible.

 One recent example for that is the letter of intent we sent regarding
 OpenOffice.org. During that discussion, it was crucial to not have it public
 - especially when dealing with corporations, there are of course topics that
 are to be kept confidential. I hope it is obvious to everyone why we could
 not discuss some internals of the things happening at OpenOffice.org in
 public. It was simply not possible, and if we hadn't have a chance to
 discuss it in private, we would have been forcd to keep out of it totally,
 which is not ideal. When the discussion phase has ended, we made the letter
 public, so everyone could read the contents.

 So, please, everyone, calm down a bit. What Charles tried to say is that we
 should keep the focus of this list, and move other discussions on their
 appropriate list, e.g. discuss@tdf.

 I agree that having a private list is always connected to some bad
 feelings, but I hope you see there are justified reasons for having that.
 Again, we discuss anything in public that is possible, and the topics that
 are discussed in private will be made public afterwards if that is feasible.

 Nothing on our principle of transparency, openness and meritocracy has
 changed. I give you my word on that.

 Florian



To second Florian's point about the private list, and to answer Drew's
requests, it is actually rather simple. There is no decision by principle
taken privately on the private mailing list. In fact the steering-discuss
list is where decisions are being taken (there is no rest of us here,
Drew, because I'm on the discuss@ list as well, and I have a strong feeling
against using that list for SC/BoD discussion.) Private communications
happen in two cases: there's a need for confidentiality in legal terms or
one of us wishes to switch to a more informal mode because he/she cannot
discuss his / her point clearly without feeling uncomfortable in public.

However, note that we have a rule inside our bylaws that's rather clear
about transparency and disclosure: if we have a decision that needs to be
taken care of in confidentiality we must disclose it after a specific period
of time. Hence the case with our letter of intent to Oracle. I must reassure
everyone here we don't write such letters every month, very far from that :)
Last but not least the use of one private list exists in every FOSS project;
and LibreOffice, just like every other project, does make use of it,
however, we make sure that the decision making process does not happen
there.

Best,
Charles.

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Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion purpose

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2011/8/12 drew d...@baseanswers.com

 On Fri, 2011-08-12 at 18:08 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
  Hi,
 
  drew wrote on 2011-08-12 17:52:
   Is it exhaustive?
 
  I just checked the mailing list system. There still is the conference
  jury mailing list, where all paper submissions are being sent to.
  Everyone had a chance to join the jury, we made a public call. Jury
  discussions are not meant to be a secret, but I doubt speakers would
  like to have their proposals immediately public, as they might contain
  private data.

 Paulo alluded to this type - situational, or what I call one-off,
 one-time, use.


 snip

 
  What was missing from the list is the internal discussion list of the
  membership committee, where the members of the membership committee are
 on.

 Right - that was one other that came to my mind, wasn't sure though.

 Alright - referring to another email, since I poked the nest I'll take
 the task of creating a wiki page - no URLs.


Thank you Drew.

Best,
Charles.

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[steering-discuss] List discussion purpose

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hi,

This is a short reminder about the purpose of this list. It has been setup
to serve as the SC / BoD primary communication channel. Therefore it
accomodates SC members  requests from project members. While we do
appreciate everyone's input we'd like to keep non-essential content on other
lists.

Thank you everyone!

Charles.

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Re: [steering-discuss] List discussion purpose

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hi Drew,

While there's a list for confidential matters we intend and want to have a
dexision making process that's transparent. This list was designed with the
notion that it'd be both a formal tool (voting, opinions of the BoD
members, etc.) and a communication tool for important an urgent matters. My
opinion is that if we were to switch over to the discuss list decisions
would be lost in endless threads, not followed by developers and in a few
weeks you'd find yourself with less communication and unclear decision
making. I think we want to have this list precisely because we want avoid
distraction and create a more solemn / official list.

Best,

Charles.
Le 11 août 2011 19:26, drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit :
 On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 14:10 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Hi,

 This is a short reminder about the purpose of this list. It has been
setup
 to serve as the SC / BoD primary communication channel. Therefore it
 accomodates SC members  requests from project members. While we do
 appreciate everyone's input we'd like to keep non-essential content on
other
 lists.

 Hi Charles.

 With all due respect and specifically with regards to the last sentence
 above - perhaps having this list at all was a mistake.

 There is a private mailing list for the SC members use when _absolutely_
 required, is there not?

 For all other items it seems appropriate to just use the same lists as
 the rest of us.

 Sincerely,

 Drew Jensen


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Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

[Charles-H. Schulz]

I'd +1 Thorsten's short summary, but does it work with Debian rules?

Best,

Charles.
Le 10 août 2011 14:34, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org a
écrit :
 Caolan McNamara wrote:
   Imho quite easy to resolve: use the community logos per default for
builds
   from source. Enable the Logo with TDF tagline on build time and tell
people
   to use this only when doing builds that are supposed to be
distributed
   via TDF resources.
 
  that indeed sounds like a senseful idea. What do others think?

 Its the logical conclusion. Do we think this is a desirable thing
 however ? rather than a corner the rules paint us into that force
 maintainable of duplicate logos, etc.

 It makes the whole thing much more consistent, therefore it makes a
 lot of sense to me.

 The tm rule then boils down to: stuff from the official tdf/libo
 website - TDF mark permitted. Stuff from elsewhere: TDF mark not
 permitted, unless permission explicitely granted.

 Cheers,

 -- Thorsten

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Re: [steering-discuss] addition to trademark policy

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Caolan,

I think we got that covered already in the text... Or am I wrong?

Best,

Charles.
Le 6 août 2011 16:13, Caolan McNamara cao...@skynet.ie a écrit :
 On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 12:47 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 The logos that bear the exact mention of
 the software name with the mention The Document Foundation are
 reserved for two purposes:

 * the sole and official use of TDF as an entity, for instance on splash
 screens from software builds compiled by the Document Foundation or on
 official materials from the legal entity itself

 hmm...

 a) Only the logos that bear the exact mention of the software name with
 the mention “The Document Foundation” are reserved for the sole and
 official use of TDF as an entity, for instance on splash screens from
 software builds compiled by the Document Foundation

 b) You may use the Marks without prior written permission (subject to
 the following terms):

 1. To refer to the LibreOffice software in substantially unmodified
 form.

 Substantially unmodified means built from the source code provided by
 TDF, possibly with minor modifications including but not limited to: the
 enabling or disabling of certain features by default, translations into
 other languages, changes required for compatibility with a particular
 operating system distribution, the inclusion of bug-fix patches, or the
 bundling of additional fonts, templates, artwork and extensions).

 So does a packager of LibreOffice, like Red Hat, SuSe, Debian, Ubuntu,
 etc and so forth who compiles it themselves for their distro, have to
 change the splashscreen away from the default one which has The
 Document Foundation in it. i.e. a or b ?

 C.


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