Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

There didn't seem to be much interest here, I thought. I watched the 
penultimate stage live, postponing a bike ride of my own until I saw the 
result. Then I recorded the same stage while I was work, just to see if I 
missed anything. I treid to record the final day, but messed something up.
I didn't get to watch any if it, live or otherwise, so I had to content 
myself with following via web coverage, because my wife's tolerance for 
sports on TV is measured in nanoseconds.  :-)

I am glad he won the way he did. He said the same thing, but five straight 
of anything is great. So many bad things happened, the wrecks, his cold. 
But he survived.
The closeness certainly kept the race more interesting than his past few.  
I'm hoping he can return to his old form and win his sixth by a large 
margin.

Can anyone believe the sportsmanship shown when he wrecked the second time? 
I have not heard anyone say that Lance didn't show the same sportsmanship 
when Beloki crashed, but it was near the end going downhill. If Beloki was 
okay, he'd have only lost a minute at the most, if that. But I'm sure Lance 
knew, from his team radio, the he was seriously hurt.
Apparently, Lance similarly held up for Ullrich in a previous TdF:

Jan is a good guy, he's an honorable guy, Armstrong said. He probably 
didn't forget that when he crashed in 2001, in what appeared to be a serious 
crash, I told everyone: 'We can't race until he gets back up.' As we say in 
English: 'What goes around comes around,' and so I appreciate him doing 
that.

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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote:
 
 From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 There didn't seem to be much interest here, I thought. I watched the
 penultimate stage live, postponing a bike ride of my own until I saw the
 result. Then I recorded the same stage while I was work, just to see if I
 missed anything. I treid to record the final day, but messed something up.
 
 I didn't get to watch any if it, live or otherwise, so I had to content
 myself with following via web coverage, because my wife's tolerance for
 sports on TV is measured in nanoseconds.  :-)

Hm.  Anything you can do about that?  (Or do you want to, even?)

Dan's mother wasn't interested in football when she married Dan's
father.  Dan's father enjoyed watching football games on TV, and asked
her to join him, and explained what was going on, first in simple terms,
and when she got those, went into more of the nuances.

When I married Dan, I wasn't really interested in football on TV.  I
mean, I'd watched the Texas vs. Texas AM matches on Thanksgivings when
we were celebrating the holiday with his relatives (some of his cousins
were *really* into it), but I was clueless a lot of the time.  So one
season, Dan asked me to watch one football game a week with him, and he
explained what was going on.  (It didn't hurt that his team was having a
winning season.)  By the end of the season, I had a much better grasp of
the game -- and a lot more interest.

Both Dan's mother and I are now more into football than our husbands. 
:)

I don't pay much attention to basketball until the playoffs.

I have an ambivalent attitude about baseball.  Trying not to get sucked
into the whole Who's ahead -- the Red Sox or the Yankees? thing that I
tormented myself with in college, and if I start paying too much
attention to baseball, that's going to happen.  I'll watch hockey, but
I'm never glued to it for 3 whole periods.  (I was watching it a lot
more when Sammy was under a year old and still being breastfed a fair
bit -- nothing like a sporting event when you're sitting there with a
baby attached to your nipple.)

I didn't really watch the Tour de France much until this year, but I'm
supposed to be somewhat horizontal a number of hours each day, and I
could time it so that I got a 2-hour block of coverage on OLN at the
same time I was lying down.  I really enjoyed that.  I got a lot more
into it than I'll probably be able to for the next few years.  There
were a few times I missed the afternoon coverage and wanted to watch it
in the evening, and Dan would sit in the room and read and look at the
TV occasionally.  A few times he said he never thought that he could get
as interested in a cycling race as he was.

Julia
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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Oh.

When I saw the subject line, I thought the list was giving me advice on 
what I ought to do about this boil I have . . .



At 09:41 PM 7/30/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when it
started, I'm surprised to see little or no mention of the fact, now that 
it's over,
that Lance Armstrong won his fifth in a row. This one was more stirring than
the previous 4, as his triumph was in doubt until the next-to-last day. He 
was
used to blowing his competition away, and he just could not do so this 
year. I
wouldn't be surprised if he savors this one the most, as it was his
hardest-earned (except, perhaps, for his first, considering he was just 
coming off his
miraculous recovery from cancer back then).


Seriously . . . while I'm not a big sports fan in general, congratulations 
to him!



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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lance!
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:33:42 -0500
Bryon Daly wrote:

 From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 There didn't seem to be much interest here, I thought. I watched the
 penultimate stage live, postponing a bike ride of my own until I saw 
the
 result. Then I recorded the same stage while I was work, just to see if 
I
 missed anything. I treid to record the final day, but messed something 
up.

 I didn't get to watch any if it, live or otherwise, so I had to content
 myself with following via web coverage, because my wife's tolerance for
 sports on TV is measured in nanoseconds.  :-)

Hm.  Anything you can do about that?  (Or do you want to, even?)

Dan's mother wasn't interested in football when she married Dan's
father.
A Texas immigrant, huh?

*grin*

Cowboys home game days are official Texan state holidays.

Both Dan's mother and I are now more into football than our husbands.
:)
It's the food, the water and the air.  They work on the body synergistically 
to form little football-enabler cells that make up the heart of every Texan. 
 (Don't mind me... I'm working on very little sleep.)

I have an ambivalent attitude about baseball.  Trying not to get sucked
into the whole Who's ahead -- the Red Sox or the Yankees? thing that I
tormented myself with in college, and if I start paying too much
attention to baseball, that's going to happen.
*perk*

Baseball?  :-D

Oh yeah, the Mets *still* suck.

*sigh*

Nevermind.  Wake me when the Yankees win the 2003 Series.

Jon

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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Jon wrote:
 It's the food, the water and the air.  They work on the body
synergistically
 to form little football-enabler cells that make up the heart of
every Texan.
   (Don't mind me... I'm working on very little sleep.)

Thank all the Dark Gods I'm immune, then.  Hate football, hate
watching it.  I'd rather get a boil lanced than watch football.  My
wife and kids are the same, and I'll do my best to keep them pure,
thankyouverymuch.

Adam C. Lipscomb
10 years in Texas, no football-oriented desires at all.


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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
I wrote:
 Hate football, hate
 watching it.  I'd rather get a boil lanced than watch football.  My
 wife and kids are the same, and I'll do my best to keep them pure,
 thankyouverymuch.

Of course, it goes without saying that I'm not going to stop others
from enjoying football.  To each his own, eh?

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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Adam C. Lipscomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lance!
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:47:58 -0500
Jon wrote:
 It's the food, the water and the air.  They work on the body
synergistically
 to form little football-enabler cells that make up the heart of
every Texan.
   (Don't mind me... I'm working on very little sleep.)
Thank all the Dark Gods I'm immune, then.  Hate football, hate
watching it.  I'd rather get a boil lanced than watch football.  My
wife and kids are the same, and I'll do my best to keep them pure,
thankyouverymuch.
Don't hold back!  Tell us how you really feel!  :)

I really have no problem with it until funds that should be directed towards 
education in the school systems wind up funding high school teams.  It's the 
Billy the Halfback can't add, but who cares? mentality that upsets me.

Adam C. Lipscomb
10 years in Texas, no football-oriented desires at all.
Yeah, Texas immigrants don't always contract the disease. :)

Jon
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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bryon Daly wrote:

 I didn't get to watch any if it, live or otherwise, so I had to content
 myself with following via web coverage, because my wife's tolerance for
 sports on TV is measured in nanoseconds.  :-)
Hm.  Anything you can do about that?  (Or do you want to, even?)
Maybe I could foster some sports interest in her, if I worked on it like Dan 
and his father did.  The problem is most TV time we get these days is spent 
watching Bob the Builder and Bear in the Big Blue House, so adult 
tv-time is rather a precious commodity, and it's tough to ask her to use 
that time to watch stuff she's not interested in.

I didn't really watch the Tour de France much until this year, but I'm
supposed to be somewhat horizontal a number of hours each day, and I
could time it so that I got a 2-hour block of coverage on OLN at the
same time I was lying down.  I really enjoyed that.  I got a lot more
into it than I'll probably be able to for the next few years.  There
The first time I really got into it was when LA was still a rising star, but 
hadn't had much success with the TdF yet.  In a terrible accident on one 
stage, one of his (Motorola?) teammates (Fabio Castarelli) got killed in  a 
crash on a high speed turn.   The next day's stage, no one raced: they all 
rode together, and donated all the stage prize money to Castarelli's family. 
 The next day, Lance was unstoppable and dedicated the stage win (only his 
career second stage win) to his fallen teammate.  Very riveting, but 
fortunately, that kind of drama doesn't happen too often.

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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote:
 
 From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dan's mother wasn't interested in football when she married Dan's
 father.
 
 A Texas immigrant, huh?

Acutally, *she* is the Texas native, *he's* the immigrant.

Professional football wasn't a big deal when she was growing up.  I
don't know if she got to go to high school games when she was in high
school.  (She was out in the country, on a dairy farm, and they all got
up early every day.)  The only sporting events I've heard her talking
about attending when she was young were baseball games.

The Dallas Cowboys weren't even in existence until she was over 20.

Now, her sons were raised as good Texans.  ;)

Julia

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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
 
 I wrote:
  Hate football, hate
  watching it.  I'd rather get a boil lanced than watch football.  My
  wife and kids are the same, and I'll do my best to keep them pure,
  thankyouverymuch.
 
 Of course, it goes without saying that I'm not going to stop others
 from enjoying football.  To each his own, eh?

OK, if Thanksgiving is at our house and you want to come over to scarf
down some really good cornbread dressing, just stay out of the living
room.  If you hang around the breakfast nook and keep anyone in the
kitchen company, you'll have made at least one friend.  :)  (And if you
offer to help so that if someone in the kitchen wanted to be watching
the game, they could, someone would be *really* happy.)

Julia
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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:33 AM 7/31/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:

I have an ambivalent attitude about baseball.  Trying not to get sucked
into the whole Who's ahead -- the Red Sox or the Yankees? thing that I
tormented myself with in college, and if I start paying too much
attention to baseball, that's going to happen.  I'll watch hockey, but
I'm never glued to it for 3 whole periods.  (I was watching it a lot
more when Sammy was under a year old and still being breastfed a fair
bit -- nothing like a sporting event when you're sitting there with a
baby attached to your nipple.)


Yes.  I know that whenever I'm at the stadium, being able to watch the 
section composed of breast feeding mothers adds so much to the experience . . .



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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
 
 At 09:33 AM 7/31/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
 
 I have an ambivalent attitude about baseball.  Trying not to get sucked
 into the whole Who's ahead -- the Red Sox or the Yankees? thing that I
 tormented myself with in college, and if I start paying too much
 attention to baseball, that's going to happen.  I'll watch hockey, but
 I'm never glued to it for 3 whole periods.  (I was watching it a lot
 more when Sammy was under a year old and still being breastfed a fair
 bit -- nothing like a sporting event when you're sitting there with a
 baby attached to your nipple.)
 
 Yes.  I know that whenever I'm at the stadium, being able to watch the
 section composed of breast feeding mothers adds so much to the experience . . .

OK, just for that, I'm going to go to a Round Rock Express game next
year with the *intent* of breastfeeding one baby or the other during the
game.  ;)

Hey, if you can get take-out from Hooters to bring back to your seat 

Julia

but the take-outs don't include the waitresses
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Re: Lance!

2003-07-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:32 PM 7/31/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

 At 09:33 AM 7/31/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:

 I have an ambivalent attitude about baseball.  Trying not to get sucked
 into the whole Who's ahead -- the Red Sox or the Yankees? thing that I
 tormented myself with in college, and if I start paying too much
 attention to baseball, that's going to happen.  I'll watch hockey, but
 I'm never glued to it for 3 whole periods.  (I was watching it a lot
 more when Sammy was under a year old and still being breastfed a fair
 bit -- nothing like a sporting event when you're sitting there with a
 baby attached to your nipple.)

 Yes.  I know that whenever I'm at the stadium, being able to watch the
 section composed of breast feeding mothers adds so much to the 
experience . . .

OK, just for that, I'm going to go to a Round Rock Express game next
year with the *intent* of breastfeeding one baby or the other during the
game.  ;)
Hey, if you can get take-out from Hooters to bring back to your seat

Julia

but the take-outs don't include the waitresses




I don't want to see anything that was taken out of a Hooters' waitress, 
either . . .



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Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread TomFODW
Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when it 
started, I'm surprised to see little or no mention of the fact, now that it's over, 
that Lance Armstrong won his fifth in a row. This one was more stirring than 
the previous 4, as his triumph was in doubt until the next-to-last day. He was 
used to blowing his competition away, and he just could not do so this year. I 
wouldn't be surprised if he savors this one the most, as it was his 
hardest-earned (except, perhaps, for his first, considering he was just coming off his 
miraculous recovery from cancer back then).





Tom Beck

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Re: Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when it
 started, I'm surprised to see little or no mention of the fact, now that it's over,
 that Lance Armstrong won his fifth in a row. This one was more stirring than
 the previous 4, as his triumph was in doubt until the next-to-last day. He was
 used to blowing his competition away, and he just could not do so this year. I
 wouldn't be surprised if he savors this one the most, as it was his
 hardest-earned (except, perhaps, for his first, considering he was just coming off 
 his
 miraculous recovery from cancer back then).

I was busy e-mailing back and forth with Kevin about it all, and one of
my friends was calling me every day about that day's stage, except on
the rest days.  (Then she'd call me about baseball games.)  Kinda weird
now, she hasn't called me in a few days.  :)

I've also been soaking up everything the Austin paper has published on
it.  He went to a conference on cancer after he won the Tour, did anyone
else know that?  He made some kind of crack about how he wouldn't be
talking much, due to the hard time his 200 friends had given him in the
last 3 weeks.  :)

Anyone besides me read _It's Not About the Bike_?

Julia
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Re: Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:41 PM 7/30/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when it
started, I'm surprised to see little or no mention of the fact, now that 
it's over,
that Lance Armstrong won his fifth in a row. This one was more stirring than
the previous 4, as his triumph was in doubt until the next-to-last day. He 
was
used to blowing his competition away, and he just could not do so this 
year. I
wouldn't be surprised if he savors this one the most, as it was his
hardest-earned (except, perhaps, for his first, considering he was just 
coming off his
miraculous recovery from cancer back then).

Tom Beck
There didn't seem to be much interest here, I thought. I watched the 
penultimate stage live, postponing a bike ride of my own until I saw the 
result. Then I recorded the same stage while I was work, just to see if I 
missed anything. I treid to record the final day, but messed something up.

I did breathe relief when the outcome was known, and breathlessly watched 
stage 13, pumping my own fist when Armstrong came around the corner so 
quickly after Ullrich got second on the final climb, Lance keeping the 
yellow jersey.

But I'm not one of 'those' fans. The only time I'll flip out is watching 
the Yanks, or PSU. So Lance won. Yahoo. I went for a bike ride and drank 
beer that night, but I would have done that if he came in second.

I am glad he won the way he did. He said the same thing, but five straight 
of anything is great. So many bad things happened, the wrecks, his cold. 
But he survived.

Can anyone believe the sportsmanship shown when he wrecked the second time? 
I have not heard anyone say that Lance didn't show the same sportsmanship 
when Beloki crashed, but it was near the end going downhill. If Beloki was 
okay, he'd have only lost a minute at the most, if that. But I'm sure Lance 
knew, from his team radio, the he was seriously hurt.

Kevin T. - VRWC
On Monday Letterman had a guy ride from backstage, down the stairs, up the 
isle and out the back door. He was wearing sunglasses, a helmet, postal 
shorts and the postal yellow jersey. While the guy had biker legs, he was 
also fatter then me. It was pretty funny. Dave kept saying, Yes, that was 
Lance. He couldn't stop.

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RE: Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread Jon Gabriel
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Julia Thompson
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:02 PM
 To: Killer Bs Discussion
 Subject: Re: Lance!
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Considering the level of interest shown in the Tour de France when
it
  started, I'm surprised to see little or no mention of the fact, now
that
 it's over,
  that Lance Armstrong won his fifth in a row. This one was more
stirring
 than
  the previous 4, as his triumph was in doubt until the next-to-last
day.
 He was
  used to blowing his competition away, and he just could not do so
this
 year. I
  wouldn't be surprised if he savors this one the most, as it was his
  hardest-earned (except, perhaps, for his first, considering he was
just
 coming off his
  miraculous recovery from cancer back then).
 
 I was busy e-mailing back and forth with Kevin about it all, and one
of
 my friends was calling me every day about that day's stage, except on
 the rest days.  (Then she'd call me about baseball games.)  Kinda
weird
 now, she hasn't called me in a few days.  :)
 
 I've also been soaking up everything the Austin paper has published on
 it.  He went to a conference on cancer after he won the Tour, did
anyone
 else know that?  He made some kind of crack about how he wouldn't be
 talking much, due to the hard time his 200 friends had given him in
the
 last 3 weeks.  :)

Almost every radio show, tv show and article I've read has included his
accomplishment (5 straight wins) as something of a footnote.  They
didn't forget to mention it but didn't make a big deal out of it either.


 
 Anyone besides me read _It's Not About the Bike_?
 

It's sitting on my 'to read shelf', which means I'll probably get to it
around 2006. ;)

Did anyone else catch his Nike ad?  It only ran every 5 minutes during
the coverage. ;)  Awesome!

Jon
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Re: Lance!

2003-07-30 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote:

 Did anyone else catch his Nike ad?  It only ran every 5 minutes during
 the coverage. ;)  Awesome!

I just noticed the Subaru ad, myself.

Julia
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