Re: Philosophy

[Jenna Fox]

I cite _why, the entirely irrelevant man who we suppose to have started this 
whole sordid affair:

 20:11  can camping do e-commerce?
 20:11 <_why> no, use rails
 20:11  heh wtf?
 20:13  it's just a small store, we only have two products
 20:13  root beer lip balm and cream soda lip balm
 20:13 * _why contemplates
 20:14  mail-order only
 20:14 <_why> now you're talking!!
Here's where I should write something about morals and us both being right and 
all that, but, well, I guess you're right. Go, e-commerce the universe! Run 
wild and free on the starlit campgrounds, selling your doodads and trinkets!

So long as they're mail-order only.

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On 24/08/2010, at 1:11 PM, Philippe Monnet wrote:

> Well it's your prerogative to choose to only use it only for creative 
> purposes. I enjoy that too ;-)
> But we're all free to use Camping as we see fit - there is no right or wrong 
> way. 
> So I feel that inclusion and freedom to build anything is maybe part of my 
> view of the "philosophy".
> I wonder how Yoda would put this in his own word ... :-)
> 
> Philippe (@techarch)
> 
> On 8/23/2010 8:27 PM, Bluebie wrote:
>> 
>> My attitude towards using camping for serious business mostly stems from 
>> being burnt by rails. I practice coding as an extension of creativity, not 
>> as a job, and rails has enormous hosting costs for someone with no income. I 
>> initially started using camping as it could run well as a CGI script on the 
>> cheapest grungeist web hosts. 
>> 
>> Capitalistic forces have largely taken over the once gloriously creative 
>> practice of hacking, and turned it in to little more than data entry jobs, 
>> with all it's best practices, unit tests, and all the rest. Camping to me is 
>> special because it's all about creation, and not about fitting in to a 
>> certain task or "market". This is entirely self destructive though in the 
>> long term for businesses too, as tools which are unusable by the poor are 
>> tools which are unusable in the future. Students don't have software 
>> dollars. Though as an open source project we owe nothing to capitalism. We 
>> have no business propping up commerce.
>> 
>> Rails is a great tool for building medium to large business applications and 
>> so my preference is that we entirely ignore that which drives 'marketed' 
>> frameworks, and focus on what we're really good at — making fun awesome 
>> hacks, and teaching the next generations. Little doodads for the sake of 
>> themselves. Thoughts? :)
>> 
>> —
>> Jenna / @Bluebie
>> 
>> On 24/08/2010, at 11:47 AM, Philippe Monnet  wrote:
>> 
>>> I am not sure I can even try to get close to the "philosophy" as I consider 
>>> myself still a newcomer to Camping. So I am missing a lot of the background 
>>> on Camping (even though I have read quite a few materials, books, posts, 
>>> videos, etc. about _why's contributions.
>>> 
>>> For me, I love Camping because:
>>> � - it is small 
>>> � - the code is crazy clever and taught me a lot about things I did not 
>>> know about Ruby metaprogramming
>>> �- the MVC structure help me structure my thoughts and apps
>>> �- it is very extensible once you figure out the extensibility points you 
>>> need
>>> �- creating all sorts of apps or services is really fun and enjoyable
>>> �- you can build some decent size/complexity apps if you try (I don't 
>>> subscribe to the analogy about the "dark side" as I feel Camping is about 
>>> freedom to build whatever you want)
>>> �- you can either use it for play or for work (that tends to happen if 
>>> you like it so much you want everything to be built with it.
>>> �- it can capture your imagination in terms of what you could use it for 
>>> (e.g. the fun/play/learn sandbox idea)
>>> 
>>> Philippe (@techarch)
>>> 
>>> PS -I have deployed apps on Heroku and will help with the deployment 
>>> section of the book
>>> �
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/23/2010 3:05 AM, Jenna Fox wrote:
 
 The camping website (new one) includes a link to a not-existant wiki page 
 called 'Philosophy', which was inherited from Judofyr's version. I keep 
 meaning to create this article, but I'm increasingly wondering...
 
 What do we all feel is Camping's philosophy?
 
 My take: Camping is all about hacking and exploring and having fun, and 
 certainly isn't serious business. I think it's also for newbies, including 
 kids, because that's what nearly all of _why's projects were for.
 
 But that's very past tense. I'm not sure anymore. What do you all see 
 camping as being? What's it's purpose for you?
 
 
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Camping on Wikipedia

[Dave Everitt]

The Wikipedia article on Camping:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camping_(microframework)

has a warning at the top asking for more independent sources on Camping.

Can you please add any books or articles (not by _Why) that mention  
Camping (post-1.5), or web articles that - say - survey  
microframeworks in general to this thread? Or just add them to the  
Wikipedia article.


As a guide, apparently (for Wikipedia) Merb seems to have enough  
references:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merb

There's also this Wikipedia framework comparison page that had  
Camping at 1.5 (I just edited to 2.1) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_frameworks

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[camping-list-admin] Angel Robert Marquez

[Magnus Holm]

Hello Angel Robert Marquez,

I'm writing this email to inform you that you have been temporary
banned from the camping-list. This is not something I want to do, but
we're doing our best to keep this mailing list a friendly place and
right now you're not helping at all.

Just to be absolutely clear, you're not getting banned because of your
initial thread about writing a new framework. I can agree that Jenna
was maybe a little too rude, and I have no problems with your latest
posts in that thread. It's always hard getting used to a new community
and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt in this case.

The reason you're now banned is because of your posts in the
"Philosophy"-thread, which adds nothing to the discussion and shows us
that you have no intention to improve either Camping or camping-list.

If you still want to contribute to camping-list, you can send me an
email after Aug 31st and I'll remove the ban so you can re-subscribe.

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Re: Philosophy

[Dave Everitt]

Fine with me. I'd like the idea of collating and condensing our  
statements about it, and putting them somewhere too. I might do that  
- Dave



http://github.com/camping/camping/wiki/Philosophy

Whatcha guys think?


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Re: Philosophy

[Dave Everitt]

@Jenna: love the bit about 'children had no good way to make their  
own eBay competitors' :-)



2. encourages experimentation with a low entry threshold,
Did you find the extremely high level of fun interesting obscure  
ruby hacks to be offputting at first? I did.


I'd been using Ruby and Perl for awhile, so I just found out how to  
make things do what I wanted (then spent loads of time on the Markaby  
and CSS :-)



3. can also handle serious web development,
Yup, so long as you don't let anyone know you've turned to the dark  
side.


I have a spare soul for the dark side to purchase, but it still has  
firm ethics.



4. doesn't take itself too seriously.
Sometimes I wonder about that one, but the spirit of rebellion  
against serious business still seems strong. ^_^


I see it more as a spirit of experimentation and a deliberate  
(cartoon) foxing around to one side of the boring everyday, but yes,  
_Why's surreal humour got me into Ruby in the first place (although  
*none* of the 7 students I introduced to the Poignant Guide got it at  
all, although one did buy Chris Pine's book) and from there...


The missing part in the tutorial for me is deployment. I have yet  
to deploy anything public! But that's anther post.
Hope this helps: http://camping.creativepony.com/Book:-Publishing- 
an-App :)


Yes, it does - thanks, that's great! Now I've just got to set up our  
VPS accordingly (and document the process as simply as possible)... I  
might also have a go at adding details for Heroku (tried out Sinatra  
on it, worked fine) for my 'Oracle of everyday things' Camping  
project. Unless someone else writes it up first.


Anyone have experience with Heroku or jRuby + App Engine want to  
fill in the blanks?


@Aria: 'edge-of-zany' - definitely. Or at least, off the beaten path.  
BTW Nice vegan recipes! With Jenna, Seems Camping might be the  
framework of choice for vegans (or, like me, totally-lactose- 
intolerant vegetarians)...


Dave E.

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Junebug Wiki

[Dave Everitt]

Does anyone know if there's a community-maintained version of Julik  
Tarkhanov's Camping-related stuff (e.g. the Camping-based Junebug  
Wiki http://rubyforge.org/projects/junebug/)?


The last update I can find is from 2007, just wondering if anyone's  
tried it with Camping 2.1. Otherwise I'll contact him via Github.


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Re: Philosophy

[Peter Retief]

I hope _why is OK, I don't care if he wants to change his career but
it would be nice if I were to know that nothing bad happened to him
(Gone camping?)
Give us a sign :)

On 24 August 2010 14:29, Dave Everitt  wrote:
> @Jenna: love the bit about 'children had no good way to make their own eBay
> competitors' :-)
>
>>> 2. encourages experimentation with a low entry threshold,
>>
>> Did you find the extremely high level of fun interesting obscure ruby
>> hacks to be offputting at first? I did.
>
> I'd been using Ruby and Perl for awhile, so I just found out how to make
> things do what I wanted (then spent loads of time on the Markaby and CSS :-)
>
>>> 3. can also handle serious web development,
>>
>> Yup, so long as you don't let anyone know you've turned to the dark side.
>
> I have a spare soul for the dark side to purchase, but it still has firm
> ethics.
>
>>> 4. doesn't take itself too seriously.
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder about that one, but the spirit of rebellion against
>> serious business still seems strong. ^_^
>
> I see it more as a spirit of experimentation and a deliberate (cartoon)
> foxing around to one side of the boring everyday, but yes, _Why's surreal
> humour got me into Ruby in the first place (although *none* of the 7
> students I introduced to the Poignant Guide got it at all, although one did
> buy Chris Pine's book) and from there...
>
>>> The missing part in the tutorial for me is deployment. I have yet to
>>> deploy anything public! But that's anther post.
>>
>> Hope this helps: http://camping.creativepony.com/Book:-Publishing-an-App
>> :)
>
> Yes, it does - thanks, that's great! Now I've just got to set up our VPS
> accordingly (and document the process as simply as possible)... I might also
> have a go at adding details for Heroku (tried out Sinatra on it, worked
> fine) for my 'Oracle of everyday things' Camping project. Unless someone
> else writes it up first.
>
>> Anyone have experience with Heroku or jRuby + App Engine want to fill in
>> the blanks?
>
> @Aria: 'edge-of-zany' - definitely. Or at least, off the beaten path. BTW
> Nice vegan recipes! With Jenna, Seems Camping might be the framework of
> choice for vegans (or, like me, totally-lactose-intolerant vegetarians)...
>
> Dave E.
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Re: Philosophy

[Steve Klabnik]

The organizers of RubyConf said that he's okay.
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Re: Junebug Wiki

[David Susco]

Nothing that I know of.

I tried it but never got Junebug to work with 2. I eventually got fed
up enough that I put together my own wiki app by looking at it and
tepee. I used vestal_versions for the versioning and recreated most of
the junebug functionality so far (currently working on diff). It's
also served as my sandbox for all the fun new features that have
rolled out.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Dave Everitt  wrote:
> Does anyone know if there's a community-maintained version of Julik
> Tarkhanov's Camping-related stuff (e.g. the Camping-based Junebug Wiki
> http://rubyforge.org/projects/junebug/)?
>
> The last update I can find is from 2007, just wondering if anyone's tried it
> with Camping 2.1. Otherwise I'll contact him via Github.
>
> Dave Everitt
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Re: Philosophy

[Peter Retief]

OK is good enough for me
Thanks


On 24 August 2010 14:59, Steve Klabnik  wrote:
> The organizers of RubyConf said that he's okay.
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making create "environmentally aware"

[David Susco]

Not talking about having it recycle (I assume all Camping apps have a
small carbon footprint).

I'm talking about letting the create method know this is the
dev/test/prod environment and have it load the appropriate database
connection info etc.

Any thoughts on this? Having create take an env arguments seems the
simplest to me.

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Re: making create "environmentally aware"

[Magnus Holm]

Why don't add this?

  def App.create(env = :development)
  end

And in production, you can call App.create(:production) yourself.

// Magnus Holm



On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 15:36, David Susco  wrote:
> Not talking about having it recycle (I assume all Camping apps have a
> small carbon footprint).
>
> I'm talking about letting the create method know this is the
> dev/test/prod environment and have it load the appropriate database
> connection info etc.
>
> Any thoughts on this? Having create take an env arguments seems the
> simplest to me.
>
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Oh, whywentcamping.com!

[Jenna Fox]

I'm feeling pretty happy about the state of the website now!

http://whywentcamping.com/
And the blog to go with it http://log.whywentcamping.com/

What's the next thing? work on the api reference? write more content? Is there 
any other camping stuff which would benefit from my dodgy doodling attentions?


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Re: Philosophy

[Jenna Fox]

Yeah Peter. Don't worry about it. He said he'd spend five years working on 
bringing coding to kids, and by my best approximation, he did that. Now he's 
done. He has a family, a life, and seems he probably has children too. The 
intensity with which he worked on ruby projects was never sustainable. I expect 
his priorities simply shifted to other things.

Really though, he's just a man. A man who brought us many great things, sure, 
but still a man. The important thing is that we take note of the wonderment 
created in his wake, and continue to create things of equivalent or greater 
value. It's our job to push ruby forward now.

It's our job to push computing forward.

—
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On 24/08/2010, at 10:32 PM, Peter Retief wrote:

> I hope _why is OK, I don't care if he wants to change his career but
> it would be nice if I were to know that nothing bad happened to him
> (Gone camping?)
> Give us a sign :)
> 
> On 24 August 2010 14:29, Dave Everitt  wrote:
>> @Jenna: love the bit about 'children had no good way to make their own eBay
>> competitors' :-)
>> 
 2. encourages experimentation with a low entry threshold,
>>> 
>>> Did you find the extremely high level of fun interesting obscure ruby
>>> hacks to be offputting at first? I did.
>> 
>> I'd been using Ruby and Perl for awhile, so I just found out how to make
>> things do what I wanted (then spent loads of time on the Markaby and CSS :-)
>> 
 3. can also handle serious web development,
>>> 
>>> Yup, so long as you don't let anyone know you've turned to the dark side.
>> 
>> I have a spare soul for the dark side to purchase, but it still has firm
>> ethics.
>> 
 4. doesn't take itself too seriously.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes I wonder about that one, but the spirit of rebellion against
>>> serious business still seems strong. ^_^
>> 
>> I see it more as a spirit of experimentation and a deliberate (cartoon)
>> foxing around to one side of the boring everyday, but yes, _Why's surreal
>> humour got me into Ruby in the first place (although *none* of the 7
>> students I introduced to the Poignant Guide got it at all, although one did
>> buy Chris Pine's book) and from there...
>> 
 The missing part in the tutorial for me is deployment. I have yet to
 deploy anything public! But that's anther post.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps: http://camping.creativepony.com/Book:-Publishing-an-App
>>> :)
>> 
>> Yes, it does - thanks, that's great! Now I've just got to set up our VPS
>> accordingly (and document the process as simply as possible)... I might also
>> have a go at adding details for Heroku (tried out Sinatra on it, worked
>> fine) for my 'Oracle of everyday things' Camping project. Unless someone
>> else writes it up first.
>> 
>>> Anyone have experience with Heroku or jRuby + App Engine want to fill in
>>> the blanks?
>> 
>> @Aria: 'edge-of-zany' - definitely. Or at least, off the beaten path. BTW
>> Nice vegan recipes! With Jenna, Seems Camping might be the framework of
>> choice for vegans (or, like me, totally-lactose-intolerant vegetarians)...
>> 
>> Dave E.
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Re: making create "environmentally aware"

[David Susco]

Ya, that's what I'm doing. Just wondering if there was another way to
go about it. I modified your camping-test/base file to call 'create
:test' and specified a test db adapter in my config file to get around
the problem I e-mailed you about.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Magnus Holm  wrote:
> Why don't add this?
>
>  def App.create(env = :development)
>  end
>
> And in production, you can call App.create(:production) yourself.
>
> // Magnus Holm
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 15:36, David Susco  wrote:
>> Not talking about having it recycle (I assume all Camping apps have a
>> small carbon footprint).
>>
>> I'm talking about letting the create method know this is the
>> dev/test/prod environment and have it load the appropriate database
>> connection info etc.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this? Having create take an env arguments seems the
>> simplest to me.
>>
>> --
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Re: Philosophy

[Peter Retief]

well said

On 24 August 2010 15:29, Jenna Fox  wrote:
> Yeah Peter. Don't worry about it. He said he'd spend five years working on 
> bringing coding to kids, and by my best approximation, he did that. Now he's 
> done. He has a family, a life, and seems he probably has children too. The 
> intensity with which he worked on ruby projects was never sustainable. I 
> expect his priorities simply shifted to other things.
>
> Really though, he's just a man. A man who brought us many great things, sure, 
> but still a man. The important thing is that we take note of the wonderment 
> created in his wake, and continue to create things of equivalent or greater 
> value. It's our job to push ruby forward now.
>
> It's our job to push computing forward.
>
> —
> Jenna
>
> On 24/08/2010, at 10:32 PM, Peter Retief wrote:
>
>> I hope _why is OK, I don't care if he wants to change his career but
>> it would be nice if I were to know that nothing bad happened to him
>> (Gone camping?)
>> Give us a sign :)
>>
>> On 24 August 2010 14:29, Dave Everitt  wrote:
>>> @Jenna: love the bit about 'children had no good way to make their own eBay
>>> competitors' :-)
>>>
> 2. encourages experimentation with a low entry threshold,

 Did you find the extremely high level of fun interesting obscure ruby
 hacks to be offputting at first? I did.
>>>
>>> I'd been using Ruby and Perl for awhile, so I just found out how to make
>>> things do what I wanted (then spent loads of time on the Markaby and CSS :-)
>>>
> 3. can also handle serious web development,

 Yup, so long as you don't let anyone know you've turned to the dark side.
>>>
>>> I have a spare soul for the dark side to purchase, but it still has firm
>>> ethics.
>>>
> 4. doesn't take itself too seriously.

 Sometimes I wonder about that one, but the spirit of rebellion against
 serious business still seems strong. ^_^
>>>
>>> I see it more as a spirit of experimentation and a deliberate (cartoon)
>>> foxing around to one side of the boring everyday, but yes, _Why's surreal
>>> humour got me into Ruby in the first place (although *none* of the 7
>>> students I introduced to the Poignant Guide got it at all, although one did
>>> buy Chris Pine's book) and from there...
>>>
> The missing part in the tutorial for me is deployment. I have yet to
> deploy anything public! But that's anther post.

 Hope this helps: http://camping.creativepony.com/Book:-Publishing-an-App
 :)
>>>
>>> Yes, it does - thanks, that's great! Now I've just got to set up our VPS
>>> accordingly (and document the process as simply as possible)... I might also
>>> have a go at adding details for Heroku (tried out Sinatra on it, worked
>>> fine) for my 'Oracle of everyday things' Camping project. Unless someone
>>> else writes it up first.
>>>
 Anyone have experience with Heroku or jRuby + App Engine want to fill in
 the blanks?
>>>
>>> @Aria: 'edge-of-zany' - definitely. Or at least, off the beaten path. BTW
>>> Nice vegan recipes! With Jenna, Seems Camping might be the framework of
>>> choice for vegans (or, like me, totally-lactose-intolerant vegetarians)...
>>>
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Re: [camping-list-admin] Angel Robert Marquez

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Thank you Magnus.

He was sending me a lot of insulting personal emails which I answered in the
wish to help him understand better but I gave up after the tenth insulting
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Re: making create "environmentally aware"

[Magnus Holm]

What about this:

  def App.create(env = (ENV['CAMPING_ENV'] || :development))
  end

Then you can simply set ENV['CAMPING_ENV'] = "test" before loading any tests.

// Magnus Holm



On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 16:21, David Susco  wrote:
> Ya, that's what I'm doing. Just wondering if there was another way to
> go about it. I modified your camping-test/base file to call 'create
> :test' and specified a test db adapter in my config file to get around
> the problem I e-mailed you about.
>
> Dave
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Magnus Holm  wrote:
>> Why don't add this?
>>
>>  def App.create(env = :development)
>>  end
>>
>> And in production, you can call App.create(:production) yourself.
>>
>> // Magnus Holm
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 15:36, David Susco  wrote:
>>> Not talking about having it recycle (I assume all Camping apps have a
>>> small carbon footprint).
>>>
>>> I'm talking about letting the create method know this is the
>>> dev/test/prod environment and have it load the appropriate database
>>> connection info etc.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this? Having create take an env arguments seems the
>>> simplest to me.
>>>
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Re: Oh, whywentcamping.com!

[Magnus Holm]

Awesome work, Jenna :-)

One issue: The code blocks doesn't show properly on GitHub:
http://github.com/camping/camping/wiki/Book:-Getting-Started

Not sure what's the best way to handle this. We should at least indent
all the code blocks with 4 spaces (so they end up as Markdown 
tags), and somehow "tag" them as Ruby for whywentcamping.com

We should probably update the RDoc template at camping.rubyforge.org,
but I'm also open for re-thinking the reference section all-together.
Is it really useful in its current form?

// Magnus Holm



On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 15:31, Jenna Fox  wrote:
> I'm feeling pretty happy about the state of the website now!
>
> http://whywentcamping.com/
> And the blog to go with it http://log.whywentcamping.com/
>
> What's the next thing? work on the api reference? write more content? Is 
> there any other camping stuff which would benefit from my dodgy doodling 
> attentions?
>
>
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Re: Oh, whywentcamping.com!

[Jenna Fox]

Actually I realised about half way through making the thing, GitHub has a 
syntax for highlighted code. It looks like this:

```ruby
  Camping.goes :Poop
```

So we could use that instead, would be easy enough. Seems a kind of ugly syntax 
though


On 25/08/2010, at 1:39 AM, Magnus Holm wrote:

> Awesome work, Jenna :-)
> 
> One issue: The code blocks doesn't show properly on GitHub:
> http://github.com/camping/camping/wiki/Book:-Getting-Started
> 
> Not sure what's the best way to handle this. We should at least indent
> all the code blocks with 4 spaces (so they end up as Markdown 
> tags), and somehow "tag" them as Ruby for whywentcamping.com
> 
> We should probably update the RDoc template at camping.rubyforge.org,
> but I'm also open for re-thinking the reference section all-together.
> Is it really useful in its current form?
> 
> // Magnus Holm
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 15:31, Jenna Fox  wrote:
>> I'm feeling pretty happy about the state of the website now!
>> 
>> http://whywentcamping.com/
>> And the blog to go with it http://log.whywentcamping.com/
>> 
>> What's the next thing? work on the api reference? write more content? Is 
>> there any other camping stuff which would benefit from my dodgy doodling 
>> attentions?
>> 
>> 
>> —
>> Jenna
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