Conceptual OO question(s)
Okay - I'm (finally) going to attempt to create a system using OO principles. I've got (I think) a good understanding of OO concepts but am having trouble converting my thinking. Specifically I'm having trouble defining for myself touch points between the conceptual objects I'm creating and the database that will store the data. As an example, I'm building a scheduling system for large, multi-venue, multi-performer events for use on www.firstnight.org. I've designed my data model (that, it seems, doesn't really change) and now want to design my collaboration model. I'm sure that many of my questions are dense, but here's where I am. Also I'm not having trouble programming any of this - I know I can do all this, but I'm just not sure how to do it right. ;^) I keep finding myself leaning towards procedural code poorly contained in an object wrapper. Consider that I have an Artist object which has properties like name, profile, website, etc. That data is, of course, stored in a database (SQL Server, for what it's worth) table. Here are some of my confusions: 1) How do you (using good OO practices) put the data in the database? Does the Artist object have a SaveData() method (or somesuch) so that you first instantiate the object, then store the data in the database or do you have another object that stores the data for later? Everything I read talks about instantiating the object with data but nothing details the link between the persistent data store and the transient object. 2) In the same way, when I'm editing the properties of the object does the object normally update the persistent store immediately in the set() methods or is there normally a method to do this all in one go - something like a save() method? 3) When I present a list of the artists do I (again using best practices) instantiate a structure (or array or whatever) of Artist objects (which will contain much more data than my list needs but seems conceptually sound) or do I have some intermediate ArtistList object which just outputs a record set? Basically this last one concerns memory usage. I can conceptualize a Festival object which contains many Event and Venue objects which are linked together by TimeSlot objects. The Event objects would further contain references to Artist objects which in turn contain references to Asset objects (images, multimedia, etc). Although I can conceptualize how the whole thing, all together, would feel and be constructed I'm having trouble conceptualizing how to pull just the needed information from the database. When an end user requests a list of Venues, then selects one to see the events at that venue what gets instantiated? Is it a VenueList object or an array of (all) Venue objects? I hope some of this made sense... perhaps it will to me in the morning. It's pretty late here. ;^) Thanks in advance, Jim Davis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
Since the CF download is free for development and if you buy an actual license that determines which version you end with, I don't see how you could bundle HomeSite+ unless you gave it away and if it's not generating revenue, where would the money come from to develop it any further? Sean, I agree - realized my error in view after I'd posted this. My true feeling it have HS be a full stand-alone thing again, at it's own fee, not bundled on any CD with anything else... I'd pay for regular upgrades. then again, I could work around this now, I know... just my view. Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
MX 2004 download mirror
Now that Firmware is no more (http://www.firmware.com.au) what is MM's position on supporting their products in Australia and when can we download trials from a local mirror site? Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ == Analust - word meaning a Analyst (like myself) seeking work as an analyst/programmer. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
Give it back to Nick Bradbury who wrote it in the first place? Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ == ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: ?id=23
Use a backup variable to authenticate the user with their profile. For example a user logs in - you can assign their ID number as a session variable (eg: 23) but ALSO assign a unique variable that you stored in the database when the account was created - eg CreateUUID(). Then when they login you can retrieve their information when the ID is 23 AND the UUID equals the value stored in the database, eg: 9FEF4148-B963-46D4-0A570610E956CBDE. You then merely need to check if the two session variable marry up to display, or not, the page. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ == Analust - word meaning a Analyst (like myself) seeking work as an analyst/programmer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 13 September 2003 7:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: ?id=23 All, I have an application that passes an id value through a hyperlink that the user clicks on in an e-mail. The id feeds the page and extracts information and populates the form fields with the user's information. THE PROBLEM: If a user is viewing their customized information with their user id=23, than what would prevent them from view other people's information by editing the id value to say, id=24? SOLUTIONS: ??? 1) Should I scramble the value in some long string and extract a value from it? For example for id=23 replace it with id=ei38skdh23skdu83 and pull 23 out of the string? 2) Set a cookie that contains the same id value and if the values don't match kick them out to some other page? Any suggestions would be great. D- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
MX6.1 obscure caching issue.
MX 6.0 had a setting in one of the configuration XML files to disable the caching of the generated java class files so that CF would generate each page request afresh. MX 6.1 appears to have the same setting but is still generating the class files in the CFCACHE folder of CFusionMX\wwwroot\cfclasses\ folder. Can anyone explain this or know how to turn of this caching? Below is what I believe appears to be the relevant bits of the web.xml file in the CFusionMX\wwwroot\web-inf\ folder: context-param param-namecoldfusion.compiler.outputDir/param-name param-value/WEB-INF/cfclasses/param-value descriptionThis is the directory where we will place compiled pages. It must be relative to the webapp root./description /context-param context-param param-namecoldfusion.compiler.saveJava/param-name param-valuefalse/param-value description Set this to true to produce java files for debugging /description /context-param False is set but CF is still generating the class files. I'm running WinXP Professional with IIS 5.1. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ == Analust - word meaning a Analyst (like myself) seeking work as an analyst/programmer. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Ebay Scraping -REfind help needed.
The following finds me the set of itemids after submitting a search to Ebay. cfset sLenPos=REFind(ViewItemamp;item=([0-9]+)amp;category, cfhttp.FileContent, index, True) From this I create a unique list of items. I then attempt to find the name of the item: CFLOOP list=#items# index=listidx cfset sLenPos= REFind(#listidx#[^]+([^(/a)]*)/a, cfhttp.FileContent, 1, True) cfif sLenPos.pos[1] neq 0 or sLenPos.len[1] neq 0 #listidx#: #mid(cfhttp.FileContent, sLenPos.pos[2], sLenPos.len[2])#br /cfif /cfloop This appears to work for only about 5 of the 50 entries. Anybody know what I am doing wrong? Adam ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Alternative QYSIWYG editors
tmt_xhtmleditor 1.6 from http://www.cfmentor.com/code/index.cfm?action=zippedid=11 is very good for simple purposes but the FCKEditor from http://sourceforge.net/projects/fckeditor/ is even better. Cheaper than ActivEdit at any rate. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ == Analust - word meaning a Analyst (like myself) seeking work as an analyst/programmer. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: Alternative QYSIWYG editors
Peter Tilbrook wrote: tmt_xhtmleditor 1.6 from http://www.cfmentor.com/code/index.cfm?action=zippedid=11 is very good for simple purposes but the FCKEditor from http://sourceforge.net/projects/fckeditor/ is even better. Cheaper than ActivEdit at any rate. Neither supports Mozilla based browsers. HTMLarea does: http://dynarch.com/htmlarea/ Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: Alternative QYSIWYG editors
Thanks Jochem! Not using Mozilla myself but to create a cross browser compatible CMS this looks very good! Will add the link to the site I am building at http://www.actcfug.com/ Cheers! Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ == Analust - word meaning a Analyst (like myself) seeking work as an analyst/programmer. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 14 September 2003 10:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Alternative QYSIWYG editors Peter Tilbrook wrote: tmt_xhtmleditor 1.6 from http://www.cfmentor.com/code/index.cfm?action=zippedid=11 is very good for simple purposes but the FCKEditor from http://sourceforge.net/projects/fckeditor/ is even better. Cheaper than ActivEdit at any rate. Neither supports Mozilla based browsers. HTMLarea does: http://dynarch.com/htmlarea/ Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: MX6.1 obscure caching issue.
What's set in the Administrator for the class files? Is it set there to save to disk? Server Settings Cache Settings Save Class Files -Original Message- From: Peter Tilbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: MX6.1 obscure caching issue. MX 6.0 had a setting in one of the configuration XML files to disable the caching of the generated java class files so that CF would generate each page request afresh. MX 6.1 appears to have the same setting but is still generating the class files in the CFCACHE folder of CFusionMX\wwwroot\cfclasses\ folder. Can anyone explain this or know how to turn of this caching? Below is what I believe appears to be the relevant bits of the web.xml file in the CFusionMX\wwwroot\web-inf\ folder: context-param param-namecoldfusion.compiler.outputDir/param-name param-value/WEB-INF/cfclasses/param-value descriptionThis is the directory where we will place compiled pages. It must be relative to the webapp root./description /context-param context-param param-namecoldfusion.compiler.saveJava/param-name param-valuefalse/param-value description Set this to true to produce java files for debugging /description /context-param False is set but CF is still generating the class files. I'm running WinXP Professional with IIS 5.1. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] World Wide Web: http:/www.coldgen.com/ == Analust - word meaning a Analyst (like myself) seeking work as an analyst/programmer. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: CF-Talk Wiki?
At 21:12 13/09/2003 -0400, you wrote: My experience with Wikis has been mixed. We host the Flashcoders Wiki (http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/flashcoders-wiki/), which is used by members of the Flashcoders list. I think that Wikis work best with relatively small groups. Yes, it did strike me that it would probably have to be run starting with a very small core of regular, dedicated list members, with the number of contributors expanded carefully. Also, as the number of people on a mailing list grows, the likelihood that any one of them will check the archives or the Wiki for an answer before posting a question seems to decrease. Answered questions being posted afresh seems to be a problem whichever way you cut it. I was just thinking that being able to point these people to a Wiki page with a good, honed summary of the issue and a list of related links, would be infinitely preferable to a search the archives-type response. Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://norlonto.net/gyrus/dev PGP key available ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: No so good news
I am not a lawyer I'm not either, but I have common sense, wihich largely compensates ;-) I was refering to the Patent Act of Canada, art. 65: Abuse of rights under patents See http://lois.justice.gc.ca/en/P-4/89936.html#section-65 See also: http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/cipo/patents/pat_gd_protect-e.html#section13 « Abuse of patent rights Compulsory licences may be granted to remedy what is called abuse of patent rights. Such abuse can be considered only three years after grant. Hindering trade and industry is considered as an abuse. Abuse situations include: not meeting demand in Canada; hindering trade or industry in Canada by refusing to grant a licence (if such a licence is in the public interest), or by attaching unreasonable conditions to such a licence; using a process patent to unfairly prejudice production of a non-patented product, or allowing the patent on such a product to unfairly prejudice its manufacture, use or sale. » I've found many other countries having similar provisions in their Patent Law. Aparently, in the United States it is not specified in the Law, but it is widely accepted in practice and jurisprudence: « Although in the United States the patent law does not provide for compulsory licenses, this is probably the country with the richest experience in the granting of compulsory licenses to remedy anti-competitive practices. More than one hundred such licenses have been granted (Scherer, 1999). Compulsory licenses have been granted in the United States in relation to present and future patents » ( http://www.netamericas.net/Researchpapers/Documents/Ccorrea/Ccorrea3.doc ) ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: Ebay Scraping -REfind help needed.
Try the REwizard to test your RegExpressions. It will even CFHTTP the page for you. See: http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm?p=hf ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: No so good news
« Although in the United States the patent law does not provide for compulsory licenses, this is probably the country with the richest experience in the granting of compulsory licenses to remedy anti-competitive practices. More than one hundred such licenses have been granted (Scherer, 1999). Compulsory licenses have been granted in the United States in relation to present and future patents » ( http://www.netamericas.net/Researchpapers/Documents/Ccorrea/ Ccorrea3.doc ) That is anti-trust law and not patent. If the patent was licensed to some browser vendors, but not others --namely Microsoft who is a monopoly-- then it wouldn't be considered an anti-competitive practice. Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.MontaraSoftware.com (888) 408-0900 x901 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
- Original Message - From: Rafael Bleiweiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sean, I agree - realized my error in view after I'd posted this. My true feeling it have HS be a full stand-alone thing again, at it's own fee, not bundled on any CD with anything else... I'd pay for regular upgrades. then again, I could work around this now, I know... just my view. HS (not HS+) is a stand-alone product. $99 full, $29 upgrade. http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/ --- Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: No so good news
That is anti-trust law and not patent. Nope, if the patent owner does not grant ANY licence, there is no matter for anti-trust law, where is the trust? Antitrust Law is when one does something, takes advantage of it and prevents others from doing business. If he does not do any business with his patent, he does not take advantage of it If the patent was licensed to some browser vendors, but not others --namely Microsoft Then obviously it would'nt be a case of licensing refusal, which was what we were talking about. However, it would be a damned proof of stupidity, considering the part of the market ;-) ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: Sales Automation tools in CF?
At 05:43 PM 8/31/2003 -0500, you wrote: Is there anything other than SalesAct (not a bad effort) by Donna Fontenot out there that acts as a sales automoation/tracking tool, unencrypted and in CF? Salesforce.com is the gorilla of this kind of app, can be lesser than that but that's what our new sales manager and I are discussing we implement. What type of features are you looking for? I work for a small business magazine and my boss had me develop a custom tool for our sales team(unfortunately, he forced a horrible color scheme and chewed a lot of screen space with his interface idea). If you are interested in taking a peek let me know as it has a ton of stuff built in but would most likely need quite a bit of adaptation to your needs as it is built specifically for the way my company works. Andrew Golden ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: No so good news
if the patent owner does not grant ANY licence, I mean if the patent owner does not grant ANY licence, AND does not uses it for himself ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: No so good news
Another bit of possible prior art that I keep wondering about is Apple's Hypercard and XCMDs. Hypercard is one of the foundation examples of hypertext. XCMD stands for eXternal CoMmanD. It was a way to incorporate any external media or datasource into the hypertext document. That included QuickTime video as well as network databases. I recall a project that was built tying Oracle into Hypercard feeding the page content and allowing people to do queries. Hmm. Also, Gopher even had some of this. It was a distributed hypertext medium that could launch media clips as well. -Kevin - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:00 AM Subject: RE: No so good news Prior art found perhaps? http://www.ozzie.net/blog/stories/2003/09/12/savingTheBrowser.html -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: No so good news Jim Davis wrote: No problem. It's just that some people are taking this as an MS finally gets theirs situation when the ramifications are (unfortunately) really much larger than that. I'm waiting for the definition of browser to come up - any hyper-text system (CD ROM encyclopedias, help systems, computer assisted training, etc) may be affected by this. Any hypertext system capable of network operation is affected by it. The text of the patent is quite clear (and entertaining). I fully expect it to be thrown out in a higher court I don't. The only conceivable reason for it being thrown out is prior art. I fully expect Microsoft to be capable of finding that, so I presume it doesn't exist. What might happen is that a court orders Eolas to license the technology under non-discriminating conditions. But they should be willing to do so anyway, they don't compete with browser makers so selling/licensing the patent is the only way to make money from it. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
re: cflock When to use it?
Hi, I'm running CF5. Should I be using cflock on all cfquery? I'm not sure when or when not to use them. Can someone explain cflock to me? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: cflock When to use it?
In CF5 you want to locking all shared scope variable access (server, application, and session). Use read-only lock if you're just reading the data and an exclusive lock if you're writing the data. Always minimize the code that runs inside a lock. So, if you want to store a query in a shared scope variable, do something like this: cfquery name=localQuery datasource=whatever select stuff from table /cfquery cflock scope=application type=exclusive throwontimeout=no timeout=5 cfset application.cachedQuery = localQuery /cflock So the query executes outside the lock but is cached to shared scope inside the lock. Here's a technote on best practices with CF5: http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn17882.htm CFMX is different though, in CFMX only lock to protect against race conditions. http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18235.htm HTH, Sam -- Blog: http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Bushy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 1:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: re: cflock When to use it? Hi, I'm running CF5. Should I be using cflock on all cfquery? I'm not sure when or when not to use them. Can someone explain cflock to me? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: cflock When to use it?
George, there is a great article on CFLOCK by Jim Davis; you can find a reference to it here in our blog along with other items on CFLOCK. http://www.webapper.net/index.cfm?frouseaction=Fuseblog.ShowCommentsArticle ID=20021107042242 To your question regarding locking CFQUERY. You should not be placing around CFQUERY. What you need to lock is reads and writes to shared scope variables, these are Application, Session and Server scoped locks (application.dsn for instance). Going back to your query question if you want to use shared scope variables in a CFQUERY block you should localize them outside of the query and use the localized version in the query, as an example !--- localize shared scope vars --- cfscript request.dsn = application.dsn; request.userid = session.userid; /cfscript !--- use the localized vars here --- cfquery dbtype=ODBC datasource=request.dsn SELECT address1, address2 FROM tbl_users WHERE fld_userid = #request.userid# /cfquery A simple way to grasp the concept and need for CFLOCK is to think of a typical Relational Database, the enterprise level ones have the capability to lock reads and writes to a table field so that one is updating data at the same time as another is reading it. CFLOCK is a similar mechanism for locking reads and writes in CF code. Hth. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Webapper Services LLC Web Site http://www.webapper.com Blog http://www.webapper.net Webapper Web Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Bushy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: re: cflock When to use it? Hi, I'm running CF5. Should I be using cflock on all cfquery? I'm not sure when or when not to use them. Can someone explain cflock to me? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: cflock When to use it?
Apologies George for my last reply WHAT A RED FACE I HAVE!, here corrected George, there is a great article on CFLOCK by Jim Davis; you can find a reference to it here in our blog along with other items on CFLOCK. http://www.webapper.net/index.cfm?frouseaction=Fuseblog.ShowCommentsArticle ID=20021107042242 To your question regarding locking CFQUERY. You should not be placing around CFQUERY. What you need to lock is reads and writes to shared scope variables, these are Application, Session and Server scoped locks (application.dsn for instance). Going back to your query question if you want to use shared scope variables in a CFQUERY block you should localize them outside of the query and use the localized version in the query, as an example !--- localize shared scope vars --- cflock scope=APPLICATION type=READONLY timeout=5 cfscript request.dsn = application.dsn; /cfscript /cflock cflock scope=SESSION type=READONLY timeout=5 cfscript request.userid = session.userid; /cfscript /cflock !--- use the localized vars here --- cfquery dbtype=ODBC datasource=request.dsn SELECT address1, address2 FROM tbl_users WHERE fld_userid = #request.userid# /cfquery A simple way to grasp the concept and need for CFLOCK is to think of a typical Relational Database, the enterprise level ones have the capability to lock reads and writes to a table field so that one is updating data at the same time as another is reading it. CFLOCK is a similar mechanism for locking reads and writes in CF code. Hth Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Webapper Services LLC Web Site http://www.webapper.com Blog http://www.webapper.net Webapper Web Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Bushy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: re: cflock When to use it? Hi, I'm running CF5. Should I be using cflock on all cfquery? I'm not sure when or when not to use them. Can someone explain cflock to me? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Corrected AGAIN! RE: cflock When to use it?
I am going to go back to bloody bed, my excuse is that I am trying to plan a vacation at the same time as doing this, GOOD BLOODY HEAVENS! A simple way to grasp the concept and need for CFLOCK is to think of a typical Relational Database, the enterprise level ones have the capability to lock reads and writes to a table field so that NO ONE is updating data at the same time as another is reading it. CFLOCK is a similar mechanism for locking reads and writes in CF code. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Webapper Services LLC Web Site http://www.webapper.com Blog http://www.webapper.net Webapper Web Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cflock When to use it? Apologies George for my last reply WHAT A RED FACE I HAVE!, here corrected George, there is a great article on CFLOCK by Jim Davis; you can find a reference to it here in our blog along with other items on CFLOCK. http://www.webapper.net/index.cfm?frouseaction=Fuseblog.ShowCommentsArticle ID=20021107042242 To your question regarding locking CFQUERY. You should not be placing around CFQUERY. What you need to lock is reads and writes to shared scope variables, these are Application, Session and Server scoped locks (application.dsn for instance). Going back to your query question if you want to use shared scope variables in a CFQUERY block you should localize them outside of the query and use the localized version in the query, as an example !--- localize shared scope vars --- cflock scope=APPLICATION type=READONLY timeout=5 cfscript request.dsn = application.dsn; /cfscript /cflock cflock scope=SESSION type=READONLY timeout=5 cfscript request.userid = session.userid; /cfscript /cflock !--- use the localized vars here --- cfquery dbtype=ODBC datasource=request.dsn SELECT address1, address2 FROM tbl_users WHERE fld_userid = #request.userid# /cfquery A simple way to grasp the concept and need for CFLOCK is to think of a typical Relational Database, the enterprise level ones have the capability to lock reads and writes to a table field so that one is updating data at the same time as another is reading it. CFLOCK is a similar mechanism for locking reads and writes in CF code. Hth Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Webapper Services LLC Web Site http://www.webapper.com Blog http://www.webapper.net Webapper Web Application Specialists -Original Message- From: Bushy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: re: cflock When to use it? Hi, I'm running CF5. Should I be using cflock on all cfquery? I'm not sure when or when not to use them. Can someone explain cflock to me? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re:Tag Gallery (was: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
Hopefully Accessibility for the Exchange high on that priority list, especially since Macromedia is dedicated to supporting all customers... (see: http://www.macromedia.com/help/accessibility.html and http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/accessibility/gettingstarted/accessibility.html) A user friendly HTML version of the Exchange would be welcomed by a lot of developers! Stan Winchester On Friday, Sep 12, 2003, at 09:49 US/Pacific, jon hall wrote: If they aren't going to change the tag gallery, they should document and expose the web services that power it. Then we could put up our best efforts. Bet we could put those MM guys to shame! The web services are (deliberately) inappropriate for general consumption. They are designed to power the current Flash UI. Creating an appropriate public web service interface for the Exchange is a (low priority) project on my team's list. I can't say whether it will ever get to the top of the list but it is at least on the list... Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
OMG in all these threads did I miss having been told about it stand-alone? Everyone please forgive my pitiful ranting. At 12:27 PM 9/14/2003, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Rafael Bleiweiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sean, I agree - realized my error in view after I'd posted this. My true feeling it have HS be a full stand-alone thing again, at it's own fee, not bundled on any CD with anything else... I'd pay for regular upgrades. then again, I could work around this now, I know... just my view. HS (not HS+) is a stand-alone product. $99 full, $29 upgrade. http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/ --- Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 01:33 US/Pacific, Rafael Bleiweiss wrote: Sean, I agree - realized my error in view after I'd posted this. My true feeling it have HS be a full stand-alone thing again, at it's own fee, not bundled on any CD with anything else... I'd pay for regular upgrades. then again, I could work around this now, I know... just my view. Interesting. I've blogged something to that effect and would like folks to comment on it to get a sense of where people really stand on the unbundling issue... Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
OMG in all these threads did I miss having been told about it stand-alone? Everyone please forgive my pitiful ranting. The standalone version is Homesite, not Homesite+. It's my understanding that if you want Homesite+ (the new name for CF Studio, essentially) you need to buy it with Dreamweaver MX. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 12:14 US/Pacific, Rafael Bleiweiss wrote: OMG in all these threads did I miss having been told about it stand-alone? HomeSite has always been available separately as a standalone product. HomeSite+ (the replacement for ColdFusion Studio 5) has always been bundled with Dreamweaver MX. Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
OT: MM Dev Exchange TownSource Interactive
I was browsing around Macromedia's ColdFusion exchange on Friday and found a community portal type application called TownSource Interactive. It was for an version 1.0 that was open source/freeware and looked like something that might be interesting to study. However, the download link in the exchange points to what appears to be a client site of the company that designed this app and there is no obvious place to download the version mentioned in the exchange. Does anybody happen to have a copy of this that I could look at or know where I could find one? I sent a message to the company, I am just impatient, so I figured I would ask here. Thanks -- Jeff ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Conceptual OO question(s)
responses inline below. Keep in mind this is how I usually do things; there are many correct solutions, though all will share many of the same traits. --- Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer AudienceCentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice : 360.756.8080 x12 fax : 360.647.5351 www.audiencecentral.com -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 11:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Conceptual OO question(s) Okay - I'm (finally) going to attempt to create a system using OO principles. I've got (I think) a good understanding of OO concepts but am having trouble converting my thinking. Specifically I'm having trouble defining for myself touch points between the conceptual objects I'm creating and the database that will store the data. As an example, I'm building a scheduling system for large, multi-venue, multi-performer events for use on www.firstnight.org. I've designed my data model (that, it seems, doesn't really change) and now want to design my collaboration model. I'm sure that many of my questions are dense, but here's where I am. Also I'm not having trouble programming any of this - I know I can do all this, but I'm just not sure how to do it right. ;^) I keep finding myself leaning towards procedural code poorly contained in an object wrapper. Consider that I have an Artist object which has properties like name, profile, website, etc. That data is, of course, stored in a database (SQL Server, for what it's worth) table. Here are some of my confusions: 1) How do you (using good OO practices) put the data in the database? Does the Artist object have a SaveData() method (or somesuch) so that you first instantiate the object, then store the data in the database or do you have another object that stores the data for later? Everything I read talks about instantiating the object with data but nothing details the link between the persistent data store and the transient object. Your actual Artist object should know nothing about persistant storage, be it a database, flat files, whatever. The object that instantiates the Artist object should deal with the persistance layer. I typically call such objects Services, and they have methods like getArtistById() which takes a numeric ID parameter, and returns an Artist object. That Service object (in this case named ArtistService) is the only object that knows anything about persisting Artists. I usually have a one to one ratio between business objects and service objects, although there are certain instance where there is only one service for a couple of very tightly bound business objects. If in doubt, separate the services. 2) In the same way, when I'm editing the properties of the object does the object normally update the persistent store immediately in the set() methods or is there normally a method to do this all in one go - something like a save() method? This should also happen in the service object. I usually use persistArtist() method, which takes an Artist object and stores it in the database. It will chekc the Artist object's getId() method and if it returns a valid ID, then the service knows it needs to do an update. If it returns an invalid ID, that means the object has not been persisted, and needs to be inserted. 3) When I present a list of the artists do I (again using best practices) instantiate a structure (or array or whatever) of Artist objects (which will contain much more data than my list needs but seems conceptually sound) or do I have some intermediate ArtistList object which just outputs a record set? It's kind of personal preference. For large report-type datasets, I usually prefer to do a task-specific query (via a method in a service object, though not necessarily one bound to a business object type), and return that recordset directly to the display. However if I have an admin page that provides a list of users, I'll probably return a List of User objects. List is an object similar to Java's ArrayList which is just an object wrapper around an array, but carries the benefit of being able to extend it with a different underlying mechanism if that's more appropriate for the specific data storage need. Basically this last one concerns memory usage. I can conceptualize a Festival object which contains many Event and Venue objects which are linked together by TimeSlot objects. The Event objects would further contain references to Artist objects which in turn contain references to Asset objects (images, multimedia, etc). Although I can conceptualize how the whole thing, all together, would feel and be constructed I'm having trouble conceptualizing how to pull just the needed information from the database. When an end user requests a list of Venues, then selects one to see the events at that venue what gets instantiated? Is it a VenueList object or an array of (all) Venue objects? Keep in mind that
Re: MX 2004 download mirror
On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 04:45 US/Pacific, Peter Tilbrook wrote: Now that Firmware is no more (http://www.firmware.com.au) what is MM's position on supporting their products in Australia and when can we download trials from a local mirror site? The trial downloads are served from a clustered download network (CDN) that operates globally. The CDN should pick the closest node to your network location to provide the best download experience. If you believe that the download experience for Australia is not acceptable, let me know and I'll take the issue up with our infrastructure team. Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: MX6.1 obscure caching issue.
On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 05:08 US/Pacific, Peter Tilbrook wrote: MX 6.0 had a setting in one of the configuration XML files to disable the caching of the generated java class files so that CF would generate each page request afresh. The setting you refer to caused CF to save .java *source* files, not class files. That setting is irrelevant for CFMX 6.1. CFMX 6.0 *always* generated .class files. CFMX 6.1 has a CF Admin setting that controls whether or not to save .class files (its normal compile process is CFML - bytecode in-memory; the optional setting causes the bytecode to be written to disk so it can be read in after the next server restart to avoid recompilation). Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: No so good news
This is off-topic (and extremely hypothetical until Microsoft and the W3C actually announce something official!) - can you please move it to cf-community!! On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 10:02 US/Pacific, Kevin Graeme wrote: Another bit of possible prior art that I keep wondering about is Apple's Hypercard and XCMDs. Hypercard is one of the foundation examples of hypertext. XCMD stands for eXternal CoMmanD. It was a way to incorporate any external media or datasource into the hypertext document. That included QuickTime video as well as network databases. I recall a project that was built tying Oracle into Hypercard feeding the page content and allowing people to do queries. Hmm. Also, Gopher even had some of this. It was a distributed hypertext medium that could launch media clips as well. -Kevin - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:00 AM Subject: RE: No so good news Prior art found perhaps? http://www.ozzie.net/blog/stories/2003/09/12/savingTheBrowser.html -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: No so good news Jim Davis wrote: No problem. It's just that some people are taking this as an MS finally gets theirs situation when the ramifications are (unfortunately) really much larger than that. I'm waiting for the definition of browser to come up - any hyper-text system (CD ROM encyclopedias, help systems, computer assisted training, etc) may be affected by this. Any hypertext system capable of network operation is affected by it. The text of the patent is quite clear (and entertaining). I fully expect it to be thrown out in a higher court I don't. The only conceivable reason for it being thrown out is prior art. I fully expect Microsoft to be capable of finding that, so I presume it doesn't exist. What might happen is that a court orders Eolas to license the technology under non-discriminating conditions. But they should be willing to do so anyway, they don't compete with browser makers so selling/licensing the patent is the only way to make money from it. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Possible to change doc root for cfmx in a Cluster?
On Friday, Sep 12, 2003, at 07:51 US/Pacific, Stacy Young wrote: http://www.bpurcell.org/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=937 Yeah, Brandon recently pinged me about it so he could repro (with corrections) my original blog post on the subject! :) Let me know if you have any problems - this is how macromedia.com is setup. Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: CFERROR
I have setup cferror my application.cfm, with a type of REQUEST that calls a local CF page. For some reason, when a syntax error occurs, the tag does not get called, and the standard error code shows. Any Ideas? I have included the code. Well, first of all, there's no such variable as Error.message. You probably mean to use Error.Diagnostics instead. I tested your code on CFMX 6.1 and CF 5, and it simply failed to resolve Error.message in both cases, though, so that's probably not the only thing causing your problem. Is your error page in the same directory as your Application.cfm file? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Code Editors
I am currently using DWMX for my CFML Code, I need to beable to print it out. However, I would like the syntax color coding to also be printed. I would like to know if anyone knows of a program (pref, freeware) that can print with syntax color coding? I am on WINXP-PRO. Thank You Gary ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Code Editors
It's been a while but I think CF-Studio used to support color printing. Stace -Original Message- From: Gary Hotko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 14, 2003 4:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Code Editors I am currently using DWMX for my CFML Code, I need to beable to print it out. However, I would like the syntax color coding to also be printed. I would like to know if anyone knows of a program (pref, freeware) that can print with syntax color coding? I am on WINXP-PRO. Thank You Gary ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Code Editors
Dont have a version of CF Studio at this time... :( Stacy Young wrote: It's been a while but I think CF-Studio used to support color printing. Stace -Original Message- From: Gary Hotko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 14, 2003 4:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Code Editors I am currently using DWMX for my CFML Code, I need to beable to print it out. However, I would like the syntax color coding to also be printed. I would like to know if anyone knows of a program (pref, freeware) that can print with syntax color coding? I am on WINXP-PRO. Thank You Gary ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: CFERROR
Yes, it is. Dave -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 4:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFERROR I have setup cferror my application.cfm, with a type of REQUEST that calls a local CF page. For some reason, when a syntax error occurs, the tag does not get called, and the standard error code shows. Any Ideas? I have included the code. Well, first of all, there's no such variable as Error.message. You probably mean to use Error.Diagnostics instead. I tested your code on CFMX 6.1 and CF 5, and it simply failed to resolve Error.message in both cases, though, so that's probably not the only thing causing your problem. Is your error page in the same directory as your Application.cfm file? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Code Editors
Dont have a version of CF Studio at this time... :( If you own DW MX, you also own Homesite+, it's basically CF Studio Massimo Foti Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer http://www.massimocorner.com/ ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Code Editors
How do I get Homesite? Where is that hidden? Massimo, Tiziana e Federica wrote: Dont have a version of CF Studio at this time... :( If you own DW MX, you also own Homesite+, it's basically CF Studio Massimo Foti Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer http://www.massimocorner.com/ ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Code Editors
HomeSite should do this as well - and there's a free trail download. If you want do some work Dain Anderson also has a custom tag called cf_ColoredCode available at www.cfcomet.com that will apply CFStudio-style color coding to any input. Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Gary Hotko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 4:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Code Editors Dont have a version of CF Studio at this time... :( Stacy Young wrote: It's been a while but I think CF-Studio used to support color printing. Stace -Original Message- From: Gary Hotko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 14, 2003 4:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Code Editors I am currently using DWMX for my CFML Code, I need to beable to print it out. However, I would like the syntax color coding to also be printed. I would like to know if anyone knows of a program (pref, freeware) that can print with syntax color coding? I am on WINXP-PRO. Thank You Gary ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Best Approach to Storing Selections...
Hi, all. I'm setting up a site for users to order photos... They won't be purchasing online, just specifiying which photos they want to have printed...then an email will be sent to the user after placing their order...and an email will be sent to a local photo shop who will handle the printing and payments. I was wondering about the best way to handle the data... The flow will be like this... - User views multiple photos on page... - Each photo has checkboxes for options like 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, and associated price. -The user will check boxes for various options for photos on each page. - The user will go to another page to view more photos and make selections. - User checks list of all they're order and total cost is calculated and presented. The biggest issue to the best way to handle the info... - First, I'm considering making all checkbox names dynamic, such as '#PhotoQuery.PhotoName#''4x6', '#PhotoQuery.PhotoName#''5x7', etc... Would that work for making each checkbox unique? - Secondly, I need to store the selections...should I do this in an array, including PhotoName, Size, Price...then just output the array contents for review, then into the order emails when checkout occurs? Thanks for anyone's time and insight...I haven't put together a shopping cart yet, so I just want to make sure I'm headed in the right direction with the coding before I start... Thanks, Rick Rick Faircloth WhiteStoneMedia.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Code Editors
It's on the DreamWeaver disc, but not on the install menu. Explore the disc and look for homesite. Of course all of this assumes you're on a PC - if you're on a Mac HomeSite+ isn't included. Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Gary Hotko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 5:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Code Editors How do I get Homesite? Where is that hidden? Massimo, Tiziana e Federica wrote: Dont have a version of CF Studio at this time... :( If you own DW MX, you also own Homesite+, it's basically CF Studio Massimo Foti Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer http://www.massimocorner.com/ ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
OT: dreamweaver folder bug
I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm having a problem with it... Frequently when I click on the +/- icon to expand or colapse a folder it doesn't seem to take or there's a noticeable pause between when I click the icon and when it expands or colapses. Moreover, nearly every time I expand a folder, it also expands any other folder I've opened during the session, so, for instance, if I expand /ontap/_components/_customtags/dba and then I colapse /ontap/_components and click to expand /_ontap/docs it then re-expands /ontap/_components/_customtags/dba even though I haven't asked for it to be expanded. This makes it rather difficult to work with the file tree... Has anyone else experienced this or know what causes it? s. isaac dealey972-490-6624 team macromedia volunteer http://www.macromedia.com/go/team chief architect, tapestry cms http://products.turnkey.to onTap is open source http://www.turnkey.to/ontap ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Sales Automation tools in CF?
It seems that there should be a set of CFC/classes that perform some of the standard activities. As a stream of consciousness, I see classes for: Contact Management: -Address -Company which has addresses and has people -Person which has addresses and either extends company or has companies depending on your perspective Customer Management: -Product/Service or perhaps one class for each -Customer which has company, has people, has product -Order -Invoice which extends order -Payment which has invoices Calendaring/Time Management: -Contact which has people -Action/To-Do which has people Expense Management: -Expense which has people -Payment which has expense I also don't see why these CFC's aren't already in the public domain(please don't say they are, because I have spent way to much time building Contact Management and Customer Management CFC's. ). Andy -Original Message- From: Andrew Golden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Sales Automation tools in CF? At 05:43 PM 8/31/2003 -0500, you wrote: Is there anything other than SalesAct (not a bad effort) by Donna Fontenot out there that acts as a sales automoation/tracking tool, unencrypted and in CF? Salesforce.com is the gorilla of this kind of app, can be lesser than that but that's what our new sales manager and I are discussing we implement. What type of features are you looking for? I work for a small business magazine and my boss had me develop a custom tool for our sales team(unfortunately, he forced a horrible color scheme and chewed a lot of screen space with his interface idea). If you are interested in taking a peek let me know as it has a ton of stuff built in but would most likely need quite a bit of adaptation to your needs as it is built specifically for the way my company works. Andrew Golden ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Any way to get Homesite+ 5.5 without Dreamweaver?
Sunday, September 14, 2003, 3:33:03 PM, you wrote: SAC On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 01:33 US/Pacific, Rafael Bleiweiss wrote: Sean, I agree - realized my error in view after I'd posted this. My true feeling it have HS be a full stand-alone thing again, at it's own fee, not bundled on any CD with anything else... I'd pay for regular upgrades. then again, I could work around this now, I know... just my view. SAC Interesting. I've blogged something to that effect and would like folks SAC to comment on it to get a sense of where people really stand on the SAC unbundling issue... Unbundling would be nice, but if all we are going to get is stuff like a macro recorder, it really doesn't matter. The things that interest me most are the bug fixes in 5.5, and I'd probably pay a fee if necessary to get them, but not $200. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: CFERROR
Is your error page in the same directory as your Application.cfm file? Yes, it is. You might try creating a new directory, copying your error page to it, and creating a new Application.cfm with a CFERROR tag, and a page with an error, within that directory, just to see if you can get it to work outside of your larger application. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Best Approach to Storing Selections...
Firstly are these pictures specific to them? Or are they along the lines of IMDB.com's pictures of celebs? Also how many pictures are involved? Assuming sombeody sent you a roll of film (so around 36 pictures), would it not be better to present the user with all the images on one page and (after they have default selected a size.) Also make damm sure you put some sort of watermark all over the images on the screen to stop people just printing off their images. Also what if a customer wanted multiple copies of a picture all different sizes? I would probably go for a quantity box for each size which defaults to 1 of each 4x6. I would probably store the order away in a db against their username. I would assume if they were personal photos the person would have to log in. Anyway lots to think about. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 September 2003 22:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Best Approach to Storing Selections... Hi, all. I'm setting up a site for users to order photos... They won't be purchasing online, just specifiying which photos they want to have printed...then an email will be sent to the user after placing their order...and an email will be sent to a local photo shop who will handle the printing and payments. I was wondering about the best way to handle the data... The flow will be like this... - User views multiple photos on page... - Each photo has checkboxes for options like 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, and associated price. -The user will check boxes for various options for photos on each page. - The user will go to another page to view more photos and make selections. - User checks list of all they're order and total cost is calculated and presented. The biggest issue to the best way to handle the info... - First, I'm considering making all checkbox names dynamic, such as '#PhotoQuery.PhotoName#''4x6', '#PhotoQuery.PhotoName#''5x7', etc... Would that work for making each checkbox unique? - Secondly, I need to store the selections...should I do this in an array, including PhotoName, Size, Price...then just output the array contents for review, then into the order emails when checkout occurs? Thanks for anyone's time and insight...I haven't put together a shopping cart yet, so I just want to make sure I'm headed in the right direction with the coding before I start... Thanks, Rick Rick Faircloth WhiteStoneMedia.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Best Approach to Storing Selections...
Hi, Adam and thanks for the reply... These are photos that I and a partner will be taking of sporting events, etc. There could possibly be about 75-100 photos per game to be uploaded. 100 photos is a lot to display on a single page...so I was thinking about having them view photos 25 at a time, to keep downloading shorter for dial-up access, which most will be on. With that in mind, I'll need to store the selections, (thanks for the tip on handling multiples copies of a photo) some way that will maintain selections between pages...once the order is complete, then the info will go into a database. I figure an array will be most appropriate...is that what most shopping carts use to store info until checkout? Rick -Original Message- From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Best Approach to Storing Selections... Firstly are these pictures specific to them? Or are they along the lines of IMDB.com's pictures of celebs? Also how many pictures are involved? Assuming sombeody sent you a roll of film (so around 36 pictures), would it not be better to present the user with all the images on one page and (after they have default selected a size.) Also make damm sure you put some sort of watermark all over the images on the screen to stop people just printing off their images. Also what if a customer wanted multiple copies of a picture all different sizes? I would probably go for a quantity box for each size which defaults to 1 of each 4x6. I would probably store the order away in a db against their username. I would assume if they were personal photos the person would have to log in. Anyway lots to think about. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 September 2003 22:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Best Approach to Storing Selections... Hi, all. I'm setting up a site for users to order photos... They won't be purchasing online, just specifiying which photos they want to have printed...then an email will be sent to the user after placing their order...and an email will be sent to a local photo shop who will handle the printing and payments. I was wondering about the best way to handle the data... The flow will be like this... - User views multiple photos on page... - Each photo has checkboxes for options like 4x6, 5x7, 8x10, and associated price. -The user will check boxes for various options for photos on each page. - The user will go to another page to view more photos and make selections. - User checks list of all they're order and total cost is calculated and presented. The biggest issue to the best way to handle the info... - First, I'm considering making all checkbox names dynamic, such as '#PhotoQuery.PhotoName#''4x6', '#PhotoQuery.PhotoName#''5x7', etc... Would that work for making each checkbox unique? - Secondly, I need to store the selections...should I do this in an array, including PhotoName, Size, Price...then just output the array contents for review, then into the order emails when checkout occurs? Thanks for anyone's time and insight...I haven't put together a shopping cart yet, so I just want to make sure I'm headed in the right direction with the coding before I start... Thanks, Rick Rick Faircloth WhiteStoneMedia.com ~ | Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=708.628.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Production Control
What's a good tool to use for prod control purposes? Move code from dev to prod? We use VSS, but need a good mechanism to move dev to test to prod etc... Other than straight file copy.. - Alex ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Production Control
VSS has a deploy feature that you can setup to deploy to a drive share mapped to another box. I've set this up before with two VSS 'projects', one for dev one for staging. The move form dev to stagion involved del/adds in VSS, a real PITA. The move from stagingto prod was a simple 'deploy' command wich pushes all teh latest files out only. worked out well. Douglas Knudsen (Telecommuting) ACI RRT Group -Original Message- From: Demarco, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 9/14/2003 9:41 PM To: CF-Talk Cc: Subject: Production Control What's a good tool to use for prod control purposes? Move code from dev to prod? We use VSS, but need a good mechanism to move dev to test to prod etc... Other than straight file copy.. - Alex ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: Production Control
Apache ANT may be able to help... http://ant.apache.org/ Stace -Original Message- From: Demarco, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 14, 2003 9:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Production Control What's a good tool to use for prod control purposes? Move code from dev to prod? We use VSS, but need a good mechanism to move dev to test to prod etc... Other than straight file copy.. - Alex ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Best Approach to Storing Selections...
Also make damm sure you put some sort of watermark all over the images on the screen to stop people just printing off their images. Pretty good point. If you produce the images yourself, you can use PaintShopPro for this, or PhotoShop or any image editor. If you or users upload their photos themselves, look at CFX_stampImage at: http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm?p=hf ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Production Control
We use StarTeam by StarBase and like it. Due to group politics (of the you can't touch my server type) we don't actually use it for deployment... but it can do that job very well. You can link change requests to labels, then check files with a certain label out to a server(developer's set the links and deploy to an Integration server for unit testing, then QA can deploy the same label to a Staging server for final testing, finally the Internet services team can deploy to production). The other option is the StarSync module that let's you sync servers. If you're good about your source control you can also (and this is a lifesaver) pull back your production servers to any previous state very easily. The tool is great - but is a little pricey (and requires both a server and client install). If you're looking to save money but have some time remember that CFStudio's Project interface is fully scriptable: you should be able to create deployment scripts with that - perhaps even ones that integrate with VSS. Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Demarco, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Production Control What's a good tool to use for prod control purposes? Move code from dev to prod? We use VSS, but need a good mechanism to move dev to test to prod etc... Other than straight file copy.. - Alex ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Best Approach to Storing Selections...
Or just display thumbnails on the screen (with watermark) == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:29 PM Subject: Re: Best Approach to Storing Selections... | Also make damm sure you put some sort of watermark all over the images on | the screen to stop people just printing off their images. | | Pretty good point. | | If you produce the images yourself, you can use PaintShopPro for this, or PhotoShop or any image editor. | If you or users upload their photos themselves, look at CFX_stampImage at: | http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm?p=hf | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Best Approach to Storing Selections...
I had planned to use a javascript function to not allow right-clicking and saving the image...the onscreen display image would only be a 320 pixel wide image, so it wouldn't be very good for printing and framing anyway, but the javascript function will prevent saving of the image. Probably none of the people we'd be selling to...football parents, soccer parents, etc., would know how to search the temporary Internet files to find the image either. Most of the images will be processed through Photoshop, whether I take them or my partner takes them, so we could add a watermark manually. I'll probably check into CFX_stampImage, also. What do you think about the approach of using an array to store selections from each page and then dumping the array contents onscreen for review, then into a db upon checkout... Rick -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best Approach to Storing Selections... Also make damm sure you put some sort of watermark all over the images on the screen to stop people just printing off their images. Pretty good point. If you produce the images yourself, you can use PaintShopPro for this, or PhotoShop or any image editor. If you or users upload their photos themselves, look at CFX_stampImage at: http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm?p=hf ~ | Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=708.628.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
works fine in access, but not cf
I might have posted this twice... sorry... but after I posted the first time, I got an email that said I wasn't subscribed (even though I was at CFTalk when I posted), and I didn't see the first post so, here it goes again. Can someone tell me why the following works fine in msaccess, but returns an error in CF 4.51, sp2 SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE accounts.streetname In (ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE,APPLE HOLLOW COURT) The cf error is: [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Too few parameters. Expected 2. Hint: The cause of this error is usually that your query contains a reference to a field which does not exist. You should verify that the fields included in your query exist and that you have specified their names correctly. SQL = SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE accounts.streetname In (ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE,APPLE HOLLOW COURT) - Actually, I am wanting to pass a whole slew of street names and replace the hard coded ones above with a variable name. I can pass the variable name (selected_streets), and all streets are conformed to be in that list but, I still cannot get the query right. I guess I could build the query with a ton of OR's based on what is in the list but the IN seems to be a easier to code. ie: SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE (0=0) AND accounts.streetname = ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE OR accounts.streetname =APPLE HOLLOW COURT OR accounts.streetname =x etc OR Any help is appreciated. -pat- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
(Admin) List upgrades
A few questions: 1. What is the best RSS reader? I'm writing an RSS feed for all of the lists and I'd like to know what people are using and what they feel is the best. The RSS feed will be expanded to FA as well. 2. I'm going to add in a link on each post to send the user directly to the post in the archive. Should this link be before the message (a header) or after (a footer)? 3. As an extension to the previous question, does anyone actually look at the message footers? 4. As an extension of the previous question, does anyone click on any of the ads that are on HoF/FA? (such as the new MM ad) 5. Would people like the option to get their mail in HTML format? 6. Other than a wikki (which I'll look into after the RSS feed), are there any features you'd like for the lists? Thanks Michael Dinowitz Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Best Approach to Storing Selections...
The JavaScript function will prevent right clicking, however the image will still be in the browser cache and can be saved from there. Instead of resizing the true image, use a utility to create a thumbnail for browser display, or alternatively display the images via Java in a popup window. You can obtain Anfy Java (intended for special effects) and create the code to display via Java which cannot be saved. With a little effort you can create a photo display on a revolving cube. http://www.anfyteam.com/panjava.html or even display them in flash. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: RE: Best Approach to Storing Selections... | I had planned to use a javascript function to not allow right-clicking | and saving the image...the onscreen display image would only be | a 320 pixel wide image, so it wouldn't be very good for printing and framing | anyway, | but the javascript function will prevent saving of the image. | | Probably none of the people we'd be selling to...football parents, soccer | parents, etc., | would know how to search the temporary Internet files to find the image | either. | | Most of the images will be processed through Photoshop, whether I take them | or my | partner takes them, so we could add a watermark manually. | | I'll probably check into CFX_stampImage, also. | | What do you think about the approach of using an array to store selections | from each | page and then dumping the array contents onscreen for review, then into a db | upon checkout... | | Rick | | | | | -Original Message- | From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:29 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Best Approach to Storing Selections... | | | Also make damm sure you put some sort of watermark all | over the images on | the screen to stop people just printing off their images. | | Pretty good point. | | If you produce the images yourself, you can use PaintShopPro | for this, or PhotoShop or any image editor. | If you or users upload their photos themselves, look at | CFX_stampImage at: | http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm?p=hf | | | ~ | | | Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 | Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 | Unsubscribe: | http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=708.628.4 | | Get the mailserver that powers this list at | http://www.coolfusion.com | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: works fine in access, but not cf
never mind... it was the double quotes... changed ot single quotes and it works fine. -Original Message- From: pat forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: works fine in access, but not cf I might have posted this twice... sorry... but after I posted the first time, I got an email that said I wasn't subscribed (even though I was at CFTalk when I posted), and I didn't see the first post so, here it goes again. Can someone tell me why the following works fine in msaccess, but returns an error in CF 4.51, sp2 SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE accounts.streetname In (ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE,APPLE HOLLOW COURT) The cf error is: [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Too few parameters. Expected 2. Hint: The cause of this error is usually that your query contains a reference to a field which does not exist. You should verify that the fields included in your query exist and that you have specified their names correctly. SQL = SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE accounts.streetname In (ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE,APPLE HOLLOW COURT) - Actually, I am wanting to pass a whole slew of street names and replace the hard coded ones above with a variable name. I can pass the variable name (selected_streets), and all streets are conformed to be in that list but, I still cannot get the query right. I guess I could build the query with a ton of OR's based on what is in the list but the IN seems to be a easier to code. ie: SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE (0=0) AND accounts.streetname = ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE OR accounts.streetname =APPLE HOLLOW COURT OR accounts.streetname =x etc OR Any help is appreciated. -pat- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: (Admin) List upgrades
oi Michael!! 1: feedDemon(.com) (i believe that's it) -- Sunday, September 14, 2003, 11:39:19 PM, you wrote: MD A few questions: MD 1. What is the best RSS reader? I'm writing an RSS feed for all of the lists and MD I'd like to know what people are using and what they feel is the best. The RSS MD feed will be expanded to FA as well. MD 2. I'm going to add in a link on each post to send the user directly to the post MD in the archive. Should this link be before the message (a header) or after (a MD footer)? MD 3. As an extension to the previous question, does anyone actually look at the MD message footers? MD 4. As an extension of the previous question, does anyone click on any of the ads MD that are on HoF/FA? (such as the new MM ad) MD 5. Would people like the option to get their mail in HTML format? MD 6. Other than a wikki (which I'll look into after the RSS feed), are there any MD features you'd like for the lists? MD Thanks MD Michael Dinowitz MD Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet MD ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Best Approach to Storing Selections...
I had planned to use a javascript function to not allow right-clicking and saving the image... Forget this: this is just a gadget. It will only prevent people from copying the image who would be too dumb to print it anyway. You don't need to come from Harvard to know how to get an image from the cache, or get its address directly from the source page, or even just capture the image on the screen. the onscreen display image would only be a 320 pixel wide image, This is definitely a much better security. I'll probably check into CFX_stampImage, also. While you pass by, also check for CF_picture frame, it could add a plus to your presentation. What do you think about the approach of using an array to store selections from each page and then dumping the array contents onscreen for review, then into a db upon checkout... It could be an array or just using variables in the form scope. You could also look at techniques used by some shoping cart systems. There are a couple in the CF gallery. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: works fine in access, but not cf
Use WHERE accounts.streetname In ('ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE','APPLE HOLLOW COURT')
Access accepts double quotes, but in SQL and ODBC, the standard is to use single
quotes.
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RE: (Admin) List upgrades
Hi Michael, RSS reader: NewzCrawler: Currently I find this to be the best all-around news reader; it's not free, but it is very well done. FeedDemon: http://feeddemon.com/feeddemon/index.asp - It's still in beta, but users of the new Outlook 2003 will love it--it's looking nice. Link on each post: I would prefer to see this link as a footer. Does anyone actually look at the message footers?: I don't normally pay it much attention to it as it is standard stuff, but I would if there was something more useful there. Are there any features you'd like for the lists?: I am pretty happy with the way you run things now. CF-Talk if by far the fastest and most useful list I am a member of. Best regards, Michael Wilson ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: (Admin) List upgrades
Would people like the option to get their mail in HTML format? Why not, I think we all know waht HTML can be used for. Let the usual remarks like it's too heavy for the band width to Usenet groups... ;-) ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: works fine in access, but not cf
Just as note (I saw you solved it): this is an ODBC error, not a CF Error. If you were to run the same (bad) query through a generic ODBC connection (like MSQuery) you would have gotten the same error. When testing queries it's always best try and test via the same connection type that you'll be using in real life. You'll save yourself a lot of frustration in the end. ;^) Jim Davis -Original Message- From: pat forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: works fine in access, but not cf I might have posted this twice... sorry... but after I posted the first time, I got an email that said I wasn't subscribed (even though I was at CFTalk when I posted), and I didn't see the first post so, here it goes again. Can someone tell me why the following works fine in msaccess, but returns an error in CF 4.51, sp2 SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE accounts.streetname In (ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE,APPLE HOLLOW COURT) The cf error is: [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Too few parameters. Expected 2. Hint: The cause of this error is usually that your query contains a reference to a field which does not exist. You should verify that the fields included in your query exist and that you have specified their names correctly. SQL = SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE accounts.streetname In (ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE,APPLE HOLLOW COURT) - Actually, I am wanting to pass a whole slew of street names and replace the hard coded ones above with a variable name. I can pass the variable name (selected_streets), and all streets are conformed to be in that list but, I still cannot get the query right. I guess I could build the query with a ton of OR's based on what is in the list but the IN seems to be a easier to code. ie: SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE (0=0) AND accounts.streetname = ANCIENT FOREST DRIVE OR accounts.streetname =APPLE HOLLOW COURT OR accounts.streetname =x etc OR Any help is appreciated. -pat- ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Best Approach to Storing Selections...
I had planned to use a javascript function to not allow right-clicking and saving the image... Forget this: this is just a gadget. It will only prevent people from copying the image who would be too dumb to print it anyway. You don't need to come from Harvard to know how to get an image from the cache, or get its address directly from the source page, or even just capture the image on the screen. Or just turn off JavaScript. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: (Admin) List upgrades
Hi, I missed this one in my response. Would people like the option to get their mail in HTML format?: I would like the ability to get my mail from the list in HTML format. It lends a bit to formatting and so forth. I personally don't mind the added file size, but others may disagree. I suppose if it was optional per user everyone would be happy. Best regards, Michael Wilson ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: (Admin) List upgrades
On Sunday, Sep 14, 2003, at 20:39 US/Pacific, Michael Dinowitz wrote: 1. What is the best RSS reader? I'm writing an RSS feed for all of the lists and I'd like to know what people are using and what they feel is the best. The RSS feed will be expanded to FA as well. Windows: Feed Demon; Mac: NetNewsWire. I'd be interested in an FA feed but not a cf-talk feed. cf-talk is too high traffic for RSS in my opinion. 2. I'm going to add in a link on each post to send the user directly to the post in the archive. Should this link be before the message (a header) or after (a footer)? Footer - more likely to be visible in mail programs I'd expect. 3. As an extension to the previous question, does anyone actually look at the message footers? Er... sometimes... 4. As an extension of the previous question, does anyone click on any of the ads that are on HoF/FA? (such as the new MM ad) Nope. 5. Would people like the option to get their mail in HTML format? No. I like ascii email. I've seen some real abominations in terms of fonts and background images that I prefer my mailing lists to stay pure ascii! 6. Other than a wikki (which I'll look into after the RSS feed), are there any features you'd like for the lists? What would be more useful than #2 above would be an In-Reply-To: header with a link to the message in the archives to which the current message was a reply. Is that possible? Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: (Admin) List upgrades
1) Feed Demon! Stace -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 14, 2003 11:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: (Admin) List upgrades A few questions: 1. What is the best RSS reader? I'm writing an RSS feed for all of the lists and I'd like to know what people are using and what they feel is the best. The RSS feed will be expanded to FA as well. 2. I'm going to add in a link on each post to send the user directly to the post in the archive. Should this link be before the message (a header) or after (a footer)? 3. As an extension to the previous question, does anyone actually look at the message footers? 4. As an extension of the previous question, does anyone click on any of the ads that are on HoF/FA? (such as the new MM ad) 5. Would people like the option to get their mail in HTML format? 6. Other than a wikki (which I'll look into after the RSS feed), are there any features you'd like for the lists? Thanks Michael Dinowitz Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: works fine in access, but not cf
this thing is driving me nuts... my passed variable looks like this: cfoutput#passed_street_names#/cfoutput exact results: 'street 1,street 2,street 3,street 4' (exactly... one single quote before and after, one comma in between) SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE accounts.streetname In (#passed_street_names#) Realizing that I need to get it looking like: 'street 1','street 2','street 3','street 4' I create a listappend that builds it exactly like the above, but when the query runs, it has dropped the beginning and trailing single quote... so that it now looks like: street 1','street 2','street 3','street 4 I have been looking at this too long and now I must be missing the obvious. I just want to be able to pass that passed_street_list to the query and use it in the IN statement. I'm probably making this way to hard. Any help? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: (Admin) List upgrades
I am one who will vote NO on HTML list mail. Most lists of this size are much more efficiently handled by the wide variety of mail clients as plain text. I for one, would not be impressed with all the gee-whiz signatures,etc that would consume bandwidth and storage space for this very active list. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: Michael Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:11 PM Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades | Hi, | | I missed this one in my response. | | Would people like the option to get their mail in HTML format?: | | I would like the ability to get my mail from the list in HTML format. It | lends a bit to formatting and so forth. I personally don't mind the added | file size, but others may disagree. I suppose if it was optional per user | everyone would be happy. | | Best regards, | Michael Wilson | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: (Admin) List upgrades
I am one who will vote NO on HTML list mail. I second that, HTML mails are also a pain to quote. Please stick with plain ASCII Massimo Foti Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer http://www.massimocorner.com/ ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: (Admin) List upgrades
-Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: (Admin) List upgrades A few questions: 2. I'm going to add in a link on each post to send the user directly to the post in the archive. Should this link be before the message (a header) or after (a footer)? My opinion, Footer. 3. As an extension to the previous question, does anyone actually look at the message footers? Not often. 4. As an extension of the previous question, does anyone click on any of the ads that are on HoF/FA? (such as the new MM ad) Not I, said the little red hen. 5. Would people like the option to get their mail in HTML format? I guess the option would be nice, but I'm not sure if it'll add anything. Since many won't get it in HTML you'd still be stuck with simple formatting if you want everybody to read it. (As an aside - I've never understood the war against HTML email/NNTP posts. It seems the perfect solution to me: a text only, non proprietary method for adding truly rish formatting to email? Sounds great to me.) 6. Other than a wikki (which I'll look into after the RSS feed), are there any features you'd like for the lists? I guess the one that I sometimes would like is the ability to add attachments to the message (code chunks, images, docs, etc). I know it's a can of worms and would increase storage requirements, but it would be very useful in quite a few cases. If this was done however I would suggest only keeping the attachment in the archives and not sending it with the message - a link in the message body would be enough for me and would eliminate the giant bandwidth jump caused by sending all participants attachments. I'll also throw my hat in the ring as being pro UseNet - I'd much rather participate via NNTP. It's not a deal-breaker by any means (I'm here!) but it would be very nice. Jim Davis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: works fine in access, but not cf
-Original Message- From: B.H. Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: works fine in access, but not cf this thing is driving me nuts... my passed variable looks like this: cfoutput#passed_street_names#/cfoutput exact results: 'street 1,street 2,street 3,street 4' (exactly... one single quote before and after, one comma in between) SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE accounts.streetname In (#passed_street_names#) Realizing that I need to get it looking like: 'street 1','street 2','street 3','street 4' I create a listappend that builds it exactly like the above, but when the query runs, it has dropped the beginning and trailing single quote... so that it now looks like: This is exactly what the ListQualify() function is designed to do. Use that and I think that you'll be much happier. Jim Davis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: (Admin) List upgrades
Michael, I vote for ascii email. It'd just be an invitation to excess and is unnecessary. KISS principle, I suppose. Links could go into the footers and fit nicely. Out of the way unless you need them. I use the footers if I want to visit the list directly on the site and search out something. Saves me a few clicks to get straight to the list. No, I never click on banner ads, ever; no matter the site. Cheers, Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: works fine in access, but not cf
BINGO... I had to remove a leading and trailing single quote before using the ListQualify, followed by a: WHERE accounts.streetname in (#PreserveSingleQuotes(newlist)#) but, it now works... thanks for your help! -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: works fine in access, but not cf -Original Message- From: B.H. Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: works fine in access, but not cf this thing is driving me nuts... my passed variable looks like this: cfoutput#passed_street_names#/cfoutput exact results: 'street 1,street 2,street 3,street 4' (exactly... one single quote before and after, one comma in between) SELECT accounts.accountid, accounts.streetname FROM accounts WHERE accounts.streetname In (#passed_street_names#) Realizing that I need to get it looking like: 'street 1','street 2','street 3','street 4' I create a listappend that builds it exactly like the above, but when the query runs, it has dropped the beginning and trailing single quote... so that it now looks like: This is exactly what the ListQualify() function is designed to do. Use that and I think that you'll be much happier. Jim Davis ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
