Re: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

2006-12-15 Thread Casey Dougall
We also got the:
Unofficial ColdFusion Developer Salary Survey
http://www.keystonesymposia.org/cfs/results.cfm



On 12/14/06, Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think Monster.com has a salary calculator...or at least they used to.

 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 14 December 2006 18:17
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

 Hey everyone...

 I've been offered a position with a company here in Nashville, TN.
 Everything that I've seen so far about the offer sounds great, including
 the
 pay. I just wanted to ask a a few general questions because I don't like
 talking about money.

 1) Should I take the first offer they make? Should I counteroffer for the
 sake of counteroffering?

 2) Where can I go to find real-world salaries? I checked Salary.com but
 their listings for my area seem really high.

 Thanks in advance everyone.



 

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Re: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

2006-12-15 Thread JJ Cool
There is a new salary search tool at http://www.indeed.com/salary. 
http://www.indeed.com/ also has some new job search tools that pulls from all 
the major job sites. 

 Hey everyone...
 
 I've been offered a position with a company here in Nashville, TN. 
 Everything that I've seen so far about the offer sounds great, 
 including the pay. I just wanted to ask a a few general questions 
 because I don't like talking about money.
 
 1) Should I take the first offer they make? Should I counteroffer for 
 the sake of counteroffering?
 
 2) Where can I go to find real-world salaries? I checked Salary.com 
 but their listings for my area seem really high.
 
 Thanks in advance everyone.

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RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

2006-12-15 Thread Joshua Cyr
There are companies that help you negotiate.  Such as
http://www.getfizgig.com/

Disclaimer: I did some work on their site (a while ago).  I haven't used
their service though, and I get nothing out of anyone visiting the site or
using the service. 


Joshua Cyr


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From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

Hey everyone...

I've been offered a position with a company here in Nashville, TN.
Everything that I've seen so far about the offer sounds great, including the
pay. I just wanted to ask a a few general questions because I don't like
talking about money.

1) Should I take the first offer they make? Should I counteroffer for the
sake of counteroffering?

2) Where can I go to find real-world salaries? I checked Salary.com but
their listings for my area seem really high.

Thanks in advance everyone.



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verity problem with phrase searching

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Trade
Hi All

I'm doing a phrase search with verity with following phrase (j2ee struts)

I am using MX7 and type simple

This should just return results containing the phrase but it returns results 
with j2ee OR struts

Can any one help? According to the documentation this should work.

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RE: cffunction with a loop inside - need some advice

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Kroll
I was not sure if you needed to invoke this as a web service or simply
an object, so I wrote up each.  This makes one call for each 'class'
that needs to be created.  If you wanted to reduce hits on your
database, I would refactor this to take an array of structures of
'classes' as an argument and then loop over the array and do the inserts
from that.

!--- OBJECT CALL ---
cfset myObj = createObject('component', 'path.to.obj') /

cfloop from=1 to=#form.totalPERSONS# index=idx
cfset myObj.createEnrollment(evaluate('form.enrID#idx#'),
evaluate('form.part_class#idx#')) /
/cfloop

!--- WEBSERVICE CALL ---
cfloop from=1 to=#form.totalPERSONS# index=idx
cfinvoke webservice=myWEBSERVICE method=createEnrollment
returnvariable=newID
cfinvokeargument name=ernID
value=#evaluate('form.enrID#idx#')# /
cfinvokeargument name=class
value=#evaluate('form.part_class#idx#')# /
/cfinvoke
/cfloop


!--- FUNCTION ---
cffunction name=createEnrollment access=remote
returntype=numeric
cfargument name=ernID required=true type=numeric
cfargument name=class required=true type=string
cfset var qWrite =  /

cfquery name=qWrite datasource=yourdsn
INSERT INTO participants (
enrID,
part_class )
VALUES (
cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer
value=#arguments.ernID#,
cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
value=#arguments.class#
)
/cfquery

cfreturn qWrite.newID
/cffunction 

HTH,

Rich Kroll

 -Original Message-
 From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:36 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: cffunction with a loop inside - need some advice
 
 OK - before I tried turning this particular problem into a service, I
 had a simple query like this, which works (examples simplified for
 clarity, whatever that is!):
 
 cfloop from=1 to=#form.totalPERSONS# index=idx
cfquery name=WRITE_ENROLL
   INSERT INTO participants (
 enrID,
 part_class )
VALUES (
 #evaluate(form.enrID#idx#)#,
 '#evaluate(form.part_class#idx#)#' )
/cfquery
 /cfloop
 
 
 The function to handle this once converted is failing with 'Can't
 generate stubblan, blah so I've got a syntax problem or just
 simply don't know what I'm doing trying to translate the above.
 
 Here's what I've got:
 
 To invoke the beast:
 
 cfinvoke webservice=myWEBSERVICE
method=ENROLLMENTS
WStotalPERSONS=#form.totalPERSONS#
 cfloop from=1 to=#form.totalPERSONS# index=idx
 WSenrID#idx#=#evaluate(form.enrID#idx#)#
 WSpart_class#idx#=#evaluate(form.part_class#idx#)#
 /cfloop
 
  
 
 
 And here's the function:
 
 cffunction name=ENROLLMENT_TWO
  access=remote
  returntype=query 
 
 cfargument name=WStotalPERSONS type=numeric /
 cfloop from=1 to=#arguments.WStotalPERSONS# index=idx
 cfargument name=WSenrID#idx# type=string /
 cfargument name=WSpart_class#idx# type=string /
 /cfloop

cfloop
 from=1 to=#WStotalPERSONS# index=idx
cfquery name=WRITE_ENROLL
 INSERT INTO participants (
enrID,
part_class )
 VALUES (
WSenrID#idx#,
'WSpart_class#idx#)#' )
 /cfquery
 
 /cfloop
 
 
 
 
 I probably need to rethink the way this particular function has to
work,
 but I desperately need some pointers please!
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Les
 
 
 

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CFFILE issues

2006-12-15 Thread Rick Root
A user of image.cfc reported a problem with the writeImage() function 
since I implemented saving the image to a temp file and then moving it.

He wrote in my blog:

  *  If I use the resize() method and pass in both the source and
destination file paths CF throws an error when moving the temp
file. The tmp file is created, is owned by the same user as the
CF user and is readable. CFFILE says the source attribute is
invalid.

Later in the comments, he mentions that move doesn't work, but it works 
fine if he uses two separate cffile operations to copy and then delete, 
instead of moving.

Has anyone come across anything like that before?

Rick

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website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Cooper
Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using MX 7?

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RE: CFFILE issues

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
I'm not using the new version yet.

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-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFFILE issues


A user of image.cfc reported a problem with the writeImage() function
since I implemented saving the image to a temp file and then moving it.

He wrote in my blog:

  *  If I use the resize() method and pass in both the source and
destination file paths CF throws an error when moving the temp
file. The tmp file is created, is owned by the same user as the
CF user and is readable. CFFILE says the source attribute is
invalid.

Later in the comments, he mentions that move doesn't work, but it works
fine if he uses two separate cffile operations to copy and then delete,
instead of moving.

Has anyone come across anything like that before?

Rick



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Re: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Dan Vega
I would check out Image.cfc

http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/

It is a great product

On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using MX 7?

 

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RE: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Ray Champagne
I think the question is how would one capture a sites screenshot
dynamically...the image manipulation is the easy part.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: website thumbnail
 
 I would check out Image.cfc
 
 http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/
 
 It is a great product
 
 On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using MX
7?
 
 
 
 

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RE: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
Image.cfc cannot do that. It's been asked before.

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From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: website thumbnail


I think the question is how would one capture a sites screenshot
dynamically...the image manipulation is the easy part.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: website thumbnail

 I would check out Image.cfc

 http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/

 It is a great product

 On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using MX
7?
 
 





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RE: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Snake
http://www.websitescreenshots.com/

You could use this via cfexecute.

Russ 

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Subject: website thumbnail

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Re: verity problem with phrase searching

2006-12-15 Thread daniel schmid
Hi Mark

I just had the same problem... You have to read the spec on livedocs to 
understand what  verity all does ;)

I solved the problem with the AND operator:

1) clean the verity searchcrtieria with the exzellent verityclean udf from 
cflib.org
cfset var cleanSearchstring = _verityclean(trim(lcase(arguments.criteria)))/

2) than replace any empty space with the AND operator 
cfset  cleanSearchstring = replace(cleanSearchstring,  ,  and ,all)/

If you using english language pack - what you probably do - that works 
excellent... but not when you use the german language pack. Thee AND operator 
doesn't work as exspected with the german language pack (!?!?)...nobody knows 
why, I guess, it is a bug in the language pack.

Daniel
danielschmid.name

 Hi All
 
 I'm doing a phrase search with verity with following phrase (j2ee 
 struts)
 
 I am using MX7 and type simple
 
 This should just return results containing the phrase but it returns 
 results with j2ee OR struts
 
 Can any one help? According to the documentation this should work.

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Re: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Jose Diaz
Hi Guys

This is pretty cool:

http://www.snap.com/about/spa1A.php

all you do is add some javascript to your code and voila whatever the link
is it brings back a mini screenshot of the relevant website.

Jose Diaz


On 12/15/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.websitescreenshots.com/

 You could use this via cfexecute.

 Russ

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 15 December 2006 13:48
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: website thumbnail

 Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using MX 7?



 

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RE: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Joshua Cyr
The easiest would probably to use http://www.thumbshots.org/ or similar
service as they already have them.

To make your own...  Maybe a combo of cfhttp and some other component to
take the src to a jpg?  Is Scopio going to allow cfdocument to save as jpg?
I think BD 7 will or was that ralio?


Joshua Cyr
Savvy Software
866.870.6358
www.besavvy.com

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From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: website thumbnail

I think the question is how would one capture a sites screenshot
dynamically...the image manipulation is the easy part.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: website thumbnail
 
 I would check out Image.cfc
 
 http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/
 
 It is a great product
 
 On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using 
  MX
7?
 
 
 
 



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RE: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
But it only works for some sites I believe. If it's the one I remember, it
ties in to Ask.com's screenshot library which doesn't include every site.

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From: Jose Diaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: website thumbnail


Hi Guys

This is pretty cool:

http://www.snap.com/about/spa1A.php

all you do is add some javascript to your code and voila whatever the link
is it brings back a mini screenshot of the relevant website.

Jose Diaz


On 12/15/06, Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.websitescreenshots.com/

 You could use this via cfexecute.

 Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15 December 2006 13:48
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: website thumbnail

 Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using MX 7?







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Re: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Casey Dougall
+1 http://www.websitescreenshots.com/

Works like a champ!!! Runs every 1.5 minutes adding client business website
images to our database.

On 12/15/06, Joshua Cyr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The easiest would probably to use http://www.thumbshots.org/ or similar
 service as they already have them.

 To make your own...  Maybe a combo of cfhttp and some other component to
 take the src to a jpg?  Is Scopio going to allow cfdocument to save as
 jpg?
 I think BD 7 will or was that ralio?


 Joshua Cyr
 Savvy Software
 866.870.6358
 www.besavvy.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: website thumbnail

 I think the question is how would one capture a sites screenshot
 dynamically...the image manipulation is the easy part.

  -Original Message-
  From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:04 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: website thumbnail
 
  I would check out Image.cfc
 
  http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/
 
  It is a great product
 
  On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using
   MX
 7?
  
  
 
 



 

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RE: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
Too bad there's no Linux version.

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From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: website thumbnail


+1 http://www.websitescreenshots.com/

Works like a champ!!! Runs every 1.5 minutes adding client business website
images to our database.

On 12/15/06, Joshua Cyr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The easiest would probably to use http://www.thumbshots.org/ or similar
 service as they already have them.

 To make your own...  Maybe a combo of cfhttp and some other component to
 take the src to a jpg?  Is Scopio going to allow cfdocument to save as
 jpg?
 I think BD 7 will or was that ralio?


 Joshua Cyr
 Savvy Software
 866.870.6358
 www.besavvy.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: website thumbnail

 I think the question is how would one capture a sites screenshot
 dynamically...the image manipulation is the easy part.

  -Original Message-
  From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:04 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: website thumbnail
 
  I would check out Image.cfc
 
  http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/
 
  It is a great product
 
  On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using
   MX
 7?
  
  
 
 







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Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Neil Middleton
Does anyone have any opinions on the best ways to prepare for the CFMX
certification exams?

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RE: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Ray Champagne
Josh, how would you go from http'ed html code to rendered site?  It has to
pass through a web server...

Not being a wisea$$ here, I truly am wondering how to do it, since this
question was posed to me a few months ago, and I have been stalling to
answer it.  :)

I like that exe that Snake linked to.  I'm pretty sure cfexecute is disabled
on our shared servers, so it would only work via our dedicated sites.
Bummer.

 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Cyr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:19 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: website thumbnail
 Importance: High
 
 The easiest would probably to use http://www.thumbshots.org/ or similar
 service as they already have them.
 
 To make your own...  Maybe a combo of cfhttp and some other component to
 take the src to a jpg?  Is Scopio going to allow cfdocument to save as
jpg?
 I think BD 7 will or was that ralio?
 
 
 Joshua Cyr
 Savvy Software
 866.870.6358
 www.besavvy.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: website thumbnail
 
 I think the question is how would one capture a sites screenshot
 dynamically...the image manipulation is the easy part.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:04 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: website thumbnail
 
  I would check out Image.cfc
 
  http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/
 
  It is a great product
 
  On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using
   MX
 7?
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Ray Champagne
Go to http://www.centrasoft.com/cfmxexambusterorderinfo.cfm.

 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:36 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Certification
 
 Does anyone have any opinions on the best ways to prepare for the CFMX
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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 12/15/06, Neil Middleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone have any opinions on the best ways to prepare for the CFMX
 certification exams?

forta's cfmx exam guide book
centrasoft's cf exam buster software

only 2 tools you'll need.

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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Allan
I'll second that. Excellent bit of software.

On 15/12/06, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Go to http://www.centrasoft.com/cfmxexambusterorderinfo.cfm.

  -Original Message-
  From: Neil Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:36 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Certification
 
  Does anyone have any opinions on the best ways to prepare for the CFMX
  certification exams?
 
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Re: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Jose Diaz
cool app snake ;)

On 12/15/06, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Josh, how would you go from http'ed html code to rendered site?  It has to
 pass through a web server...

 Not being a wisea$$ here, I truly am wondering how to do it, since this
 question was posed to me a few months ago, and I have been stalling to
 answer it.  :)

 I like that exe that Snake linked to.  I'm pretty sure cfexecute is
 disabled
 on our shared servers, so it would only work via our dedicated sites.
 Bummer.

  -Original Message-
  From: Joshua Cyr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:19 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: website thumbnail
  Importance: High
 
  The easiest would probably to use http://www.thumbshots.org/ or similar
  service as they already have them.
 
  To make your own...  Maybe a combo of cfhttp and some other component to
  take the src to a jpg?  Is Scopio going to allow cfdocument to save as
 jpg?
  I think BD 7 will or was that ralio?
 
 
  Joshua Cyr
  Savvy Software
  866.870.6358
  www.besavvy.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:09 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: website thumbnail
 
  I think the question is how would one capture a sites screenshot
  dynamically...the image manipulation is the easy part.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:04 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: website thumbnail
  
   I would check out Image.cfc
  
   http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/
  
   It is a great product
  
   On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using
MX
  7?
   
   
  
  
 
 
 
 

 

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CSS, border-bottom is on top

2006-12-15 Thread Jacob Munson
I suck at CSS.  This seems simple enough, but I want to avoid using
tables.  I want to have code like this:
div class=header2Section
  div class=header2Leftleft content/div
  div class=header2Rightright content/div
/div
where header2Left is left aligned, and header2Right is right aligned,
but those two divs need to be next to each other horizontally, and
/not/ screw up the alignment of the other items around them.  Here's
what I've got now, and it seems to work except that the border-bottom
of headerSection appears at the top of this header!

..header2Section {
border-bottom: 1px dotted #414D66;
padding-left: 10px;
margin-right: 20px;
margin-left: 10px;
margin-bottom: 30px;
}

..header2Left {
float: left;
text-align:left;
}

..header2Right {
float: right;
text-align:right;
}

Any ideas?

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Understanding email errors

2006-12-15 Thread Victor Moore
Hi,

40 to 50 times a day this is an error message that pops up in the mail log
in CFMX 7.02:
Exception reading response;   nested exception is:
java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
and as a result the emails are sent to the undelivered folder.
Is this a CFMX problem, mail server problem or network problem?
Is there anything I can do to fix it?

Thanks
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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
I'll second the CFMX Exam Buster software. It's actually much harder than
the actual test.

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-Original Message-
From: Neil Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Certification


Does anyone have any opinions on the best ways to prepare for the CFMX
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RE: CSS, border-bottom is on top

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
That's because you're floating the two divs contained within header2section.
When you float an item you take it out of the normal page flow, which means
that as far as header2section is concerned, it has no contents.

Try putting a height on header2section (assuming that the height of the two
inside divs is fixed.

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-Original Message-
From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CSS, border-bottom is on top


I suck at CSS.  This seems simple enough, but I want to avoid using
tables.  I want to have code like this:
div class=header2Section
  div class=header2Leftleft content/div
  div class=header2Rightright content/div
/div
where header2Left is left aligned, and header2Right is right aligned,
but those two divs need to be next to each other horizontally, and
/not/ screw up the alignment of the other items around them.  Here's
what I've got now, and it seems to work except that the border-bottom
of headerSection appears at the top of this header!

...header2Section {
border-bottom: 1px dotted #414D66;
padding-left: 10px;
margin-right: 20px;
margin-left: 10px;
margin-bottom: 30px;
}

...header2Left {
float: left;
text-align:left;
}

...header2Right {
float: right;
text-align:right;
}

Any ideas?

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Re: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Gert Franz
Railo will do that in Version 1.1...

Greetings / GrĂ¼sse
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Joshua Cyr schrieb:
 The easiest would probably to use http://www.thumbshots.org/ or similar
 service as they already have them.

 To make your own...  Maybe a combo of cfhttp and some other component to
 take the src to a jpg?  Is Scopio going to allow cfdocument to save as jpg?
 I think BD 7 will or was that ralio?


 Joshua Cyr
 Savvy Software
 866.870.6358
 www.besavvy.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: website thumbnail

 I think the question is how would one capture a sites screenshot
 dynamically...the image manipulation is the easy part.

   
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: website thumbnail

 I would check out Image.cfc

 http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/

 It is a great product

 On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites using 
 MX
   
 7?
   
   
 



 

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Re: CSS, border-bottom is on top

2006-12-15 Thread Jacob Munson
Ah, you're my hero!  That was the ticket.  :)

On 12/15/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's because you're floating the two divs contained within header2section.
 When you float an item you take it out of the normal page flow, which means
 that as far as header2section is concerned, it has no contents.

 Try putting a height on header2section (assuming that the height of the two
 inside divs is fixed.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CSS, border-bottom is on top


 I suck at CSS.  This seems simple enough, but I want to avoid using
 tables.  I want to have code like this:
 div class=header2Section
   div class=header2Leftleft content/div
   div class=header2Rightright content/div
 /div
 where header2Left is left aligned, and header2Right is right aligned,
 but those two divs need to be next to each other horizontally, and
 /not/ screw up the alignment of the other items around them.  Here's
 what I've got now, and it seems to work except that the border-bottom
 of headerSection appears at the top of this header!

 ...header2Section {
 border-bottom: 1px dotted #414D66;
 padding-left: 10px;
 margin-right: 20px;
 margin-left: 10px;
 margin-bottom: 30px;
 }

 ...header2Left {
 float: left;
 text-align:left;
 }

 ...header2Right {
 float: right;
 text-align:right;
 }

 Any ideas?

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Components Fusebox 5

2006-12-15 Thread Chris Ditty
I am trying to write my first fusebox 5 app using MX7 and components.
I usually like to keep my functions in a seperate file in another
directory.  When I try and do an include, I get an error saying that I
am missing a Fuse.

I could include this function library in all my pages, but I would
rather it be called just once per fuse action.

Any ideas?

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Re: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Gareth Hughes
cfx_url2bmp from efflare creates an uncompressed bmp which can then be 
converted to a thumbnail:

http://efflare.com/download/

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RE: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Joshua Cyr
Well, I was thinking CFDocument at first, but CFMX doesn't save as image
yet.  Seems ralio does as well as BD 7 (beta).  So maybe Sorpio may?  It
would be nice if you can leverage some Java for it, but not likely to be
supported on shared host either.

I think I would also consider not using CF at all.  Get a list of URL's and
have an outside program run against them on some sort of schedule.  Either
on the server or outside box then upload them periodically.

Maybe something like this one which seems to be able to do both.
http://www.guangmingsoft.net/htmlsnapshot/help.htm


Joshua Cyr
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-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: website thumbnail

Josh, how would you go from http'ed html code to rendered site?  It has to
pass through a web server...

Not being a wisea$$ here, I truly am wondering how to do it, since this
question was posed to me a few months ago, and I have been stalling to
answer it.  :)

I like that exe that Snake linked to.  I'm pretty sure cfexecute is disabled
on our shared servers, so it would only work via our dedicated sites.
Bummer.

 -Original Message-
 From: Joshua Cyr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:19 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: website thumbnail
 Importance: High
 
 The easiest would probably to use http://www.thumbshots.org/ or 
 similar service as they already have them.
 
 To make your own...  Maybe a combo of cfhttp and some other component 
 to take the src to a jpg?  Is Scopio going to allow cfdocument to save 
 as
jpg?
 I think BD 7 will or was that ralio?
 
 
 Joshua Cyr
 Savvy Software
 866.870.6358
 www.besavvy.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: website thumbnail
 
 I think the question is how would one capture a sites screenshot 
 dynamically...the image manipulation is the easy part.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dan Vega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:04 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: website thumbnail
 
  I would check out Image.cfc
 
  http://www.opensourcecf.com/imagecfc/
 
  It is a great product
 
  On 12/15/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Is there any way of dynamically making thumbshots of websites 
   using MX
 7?
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Re: Understanding email errors

2006-12-15 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 15 December 2006 15:51, Victor Moore wrote:
 Is this a CFMX problem, mail server problem or network problem?

Probably not CFMX.

 Is there anything I can do to fix it?

Every so often copy all the mails from the undelivered folder to the other 
one. 
There are a few CF admin plugings etc. that will help with this.

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RE: CSS, border-bottom is on top

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
It's the least I can do for you since you developed cfQuickDocs.

:)

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From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CSS, border-bottom is on top


Ah, you're my hero!  That was the ticket.  :)

On 12/15/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's because you're floating the two divs contained within
header2section.
 When you float an item you take it out of the normal page flow, which
means
 that as far as header2section is concerned, it has no contents.

 Try putting a height on header2section (assuming that the height of the
two
 inside divs is fixed.


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RE: CSS, border-bottom is on top

2006-12-15 Thread Sandra Clark
You can also float the parent, which will then contain the floated children.



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-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CSS, border-bottom is on top

That's because you're floating the two divs contained within header2section.
When you float an item you take it out of the normal page flow, which means
that as far as header2section is concerned, it has no contents.

Try putting a height on header2section (assuming that the height of the two
inside divs is fixed.

!//--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--//-

-Original Message-
From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CSS, border-bottom is on top


I suck at CSS.  This seems simple enough, but I want to avoid using tables.
I want to have code like this:
div class=header2Section
  div class=header2Leftleft content/div
  div class=header2Rightright content/div /div where header2Left is
left aligned, and header2Right is right aligned, but those two divs need to
be next to each other horizontally, and /not/ screw up the alignment of the
other items around them.  Here's what I've got now, and it seems to work
except that the border-bottom of headerSection appears at the top of this
header!

header2Section {
border-bottom: 1px dotted #414D66;
padding-left: 10px;
margin-right: 20px;
margin-left: 10px;
margin-bottom: 30px;
}

header2Left {
float: left;
text-align:left;
}

header2Right {
float: right;
text-align:right;
}

Any ideas?

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RE: Components Fusebox 5

2006-12-15 Thread Sandra Clark
It would help to see what your directory structure is and how you are
calling the include and from where.  If its from your circuit.xml.cfm, try
making the call relative to the parsed directory. 


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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Components  Fusebox 5

I am trying to write my first fusebox 5 app using MX7 and components.
I usually like to keep my functions in a seperate file in another directory.
When I try and do an include, I get an error saying that I am missing a
Fuse.

I could include this function library in all my pages, but I would rather it
be called just once per fuse action.

Any ideas?

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RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

2006-12-15 Thread Steve Brownlee
My first mother-in-law was a top-notch, nationally recognized
professional coach and she taught me a few things about interviews and
jobs that have served my very well over the years.

1.  Companies can always afford to pay you more than they offer you.
2.  Always counter-offer their proposed salary. It's expected, even if
they say no.
3.  If they give you the first opportunity to say what salary you are
expecting, they are unwittingly giving you a position of strength.  Take
the number you would expect to get for this position and add $15,000
dollars.  It's a fantastic place to start negotiations from.

Now, these are very hard steps to take.  These are skills that we are
not born with and we've been indoctrinated during our entire lives to
not negotiate when it comes to salaries as it might come across as
greedy.  Your first attempt at negoating will be very uncomfortable.
Try practicing it with a family member or a friend, just to get
comfortable with the conversation.

The company wants to offer you as little as possible for your skills,
and you should be asking for the most amount possible for your skills.
More often than not, a compromise that makes both parties happy occurs.

Good luck!


Steve Brownlee
http://www.fusioncube.net/


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From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

Hey everyone...

I've been offered a position with a company here in Nashville, TN.
Everything that I've seen so far about the offer sounds great, including
the pay. I just wanted to ask a a few general questions because I don't
like talking about money.

1) Should I take the first offer they make? Should I counteroffer for
the sake of counteroffering?

2) Where can I go to find real-world salaries? I checked Salary.com but
their listings for my area seem really high.

Thanks in advance everyone.

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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Snake
Make sure you know how to write CFML.

You could cheat like most people do and use the certification study guide. 
I personally don't think the certification is worth the paper it is printed
on. I know several people who got Advanced ColdFusion developers
certifications, when in reality they are nothing of the sort.

Russ 

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Sent: 15 December 2006 15:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Certification

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RE: Understanding email errors

2006-12-15 Thread Brad Wood
Hmm, I don't really know what is causing your problem (probably the mail
server), but what I did was write a scheduled job which runs on the hour
on each of my web servers and monitors the undeliverable folder for
files dated today.  If more than 5 E-mails fail in one day, it sends me
a text message through an external SMTP server.  I coded a simple page
which reads the files in the undeliverable folder and parses out the
addresses and message text for display so I can take a quick look at all
of them.  Then at the click of a button I cffile copy them all back to
the spool folder.  On my network most of our E-mail failures were caused
when the techs would turn off relaying to external E-mail addresses.
Once they fixed it, everything would resend fine.

~Brad

40 to 50 times a day this is an error message that pops up in the mail
log
in CFMX 7.02:
Exception reading response;   nested exception is:
java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
and as a result the emails are sent to the undelivered folder.
Is this a CFMX problem, mail server problem or network problem?
Is there anything I can do to fix it?



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Re: website thumbnail

2006-12-15 Thread Jim Wright
Joshua Cyr wrote:
 I think BD 7 will or was that ralio?

BD 7 will...here is a test page I just whipped up...

http://www.wrightster.com/webthumb.cfm

The resizing is done with Rick's image.cfc, and if you click on the 
thumbnail, you will see the original jpg created by cfdocument.
Seems to have trouble with sites with a lot of JS, but I would assume 
that many of these screen capture methods would.

This is BD7 JX Beta 2 Running on CentOS 3.  Note that the free version 
of BD is not going to support cfdocument at all.

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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Agreed, the certs are pretty much worthless in the real world.









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Subject: RE: Certification

Make sure you know how to write CFML.

You could cheat like most people do and use the certification study guide. 
I personally don't think the certification is worth the paper it is printed
on. I know several people who got Advanced ColdFusion developers
certifications, when in reality they are nothing of the sort.

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RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

2006-12-15 Thread Snake
I have always been offered salaries greater than I was expecting plus all
the extras and bonuses from the outset, so never really had to negotiate
much.
It all very much depends on what sort of impression you make on an employer.
If they think you're the best thing since sliced bread, then they will do
whatever they can to get you working for them.
If your not very self confident then your probably gonna have to start at
the bottom and fight your way up.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 December 2006 16:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

My first mother-in-law was a top-notch, nationally recognized professional
coach and she taught me a few things about interviews and jobs that have
served my very well over the years.

1.  Companies can always afford to pay you more than they offer you.
2.  Always counter-offer their proposed salary. It's expected, even if they
say no.
3.  If they give you the first opportunity to say what salary you are
expecting, they are unwittingly giving you a position of strength.  Take the
number you would expect to get for this position and add $15,000 dollars.
It's a fantastic place to start negotiations from.

Now, these are very hard steps to take.  These are skills that we are not
born with and we've been indoctrinated during our entire lives to not
negotiate when it comes to salaries as it might come across as greedy.  Your
first attempt at negoating will be very uncomfortable.
Try practicing it with a family member or a friend, just to get comfortable
with the conversation.

The company wants to offer you as little as possible for your skills, and
you should be asking for the most amount possible for your skills.
More often than not, a compromise that makes both parties happy occurs.

Good luck!


Steve Brownlee
http://www.fusioncube.net/


-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

Hey everyone...

I've been offered a position with a company here in Nashville, TN.
Everything that I've seen so far about the offer sounds great, including the
pay. I just wanted to ask a a few general questions because I don't like
talking about money.

1) Should I take the first offer they make? Should I counteroffer for the
sake of counteroffering?

2) Where can I go to find real-world salaries? I checked Salary.com but
their listings for my area seem really high.

Thanks in advance everyone.



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RE: CSS, border-bottom is on top

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
Really? Didn't know that. Nice tip Sandy, thank you.

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From: Sandra Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CSS, border-bottom is on top


You can also float the parent, which will then contain the floated children.



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-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CSS, border-bottom is on top

That's because you're floating the two divs contained within header2section.
When you float an item you take it out of the normal page flow, which means
that as far as header2section is concerned, it has no contents.

Try putting a height on header2section (assuming that the height of the two
inside divs is fixed.

!//--
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certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: Jacob Munson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CSS, border-bottom is on top


I suck at CSS.  This seems simple enough, but I want to avoid using tables.
I want to have code like this:
div class=header2Section
  div class=header2Leftleft content/div
  div class=header2Rightright content/div /div where header2Left is
left aligned, and header2Right is right aligned, but those two divs need to
be next to each other horizontally, and /not/ screw up the alignment of the
other items around them.  Here's what I've got now, and it seems to work
except that the border-bottom of headerSection appears at the top of this
header!

.header2Section {
border-bottom: 1px dotted #414D66;
padding-left: 10px;
margin-right: 20px;
margin-left: 10px;
margin-bottom: 30px;
}

.header2Left {
float: left;
text-align:left;
}

.header2Right {
float: right;
text-align:right;
}

Any ideas?

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RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
Great input Steve.

I suspected as much, thank you.

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-Original Message-
From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN


My first mother-in-law was a top-notch, nationally recognized
professional coach and she taught me a few things about interviews and
jobs that have served my very well over the years.

1.  Companies can always afford to pay you more than they offer you.
2.  Always counter-offer their proposed salary. It's expected, even if
they say no.
3.  If they give you the first opportunity to say what salary you are
expecting, they are unwittingly giving you a position of strength.  Take
the number you would expect to get for this position and add $15,000
dollars.  It's a fantastic place to start negotiations from.

Now, these are very hard steps to take.  These are skills that we are
not born with and we've been indoctrinated during our entire lives to
not negotiate when it comes to salaries as it might come across as
greedy.  Your first attempt at negoating will be very uncomfortable.
Try practicing it with a family member or a friend, just to get
comfortable with the conversation.

The company wants to offer you as little as possible for your skills,
and you should be asking for the most amount possible for your skills.
More often than not, a compromise that makes both parties happy occurs.

Good luck!


Steve Brownlee
http://www.fusioncube.net/


-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

Hey everyone...

I've been offered a position with a company here in Nashville, TN.
Everything that I've seen so far about the offer sounds great, including
the pay. I just wanted to ask a a few general questions because I don't
like talking about money.

1) Should I take the first offer they make? Should I counteroffer for
the sake of counteroffering?

2) Where can I go to find real-world salaries? I checked Salary.com but
their listings for my area seem really high.

Thanks in advance everyone.



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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Ben Nadel
What are you talking about?!?!??!?! The ladies love the certification :)
Every time I walk into a bar it's always like Ooooh, tell me again how
CFHttp works? It's so exciting when you talk about parsing CSV files at
a given URL. On really long, I opt not to even wear my Ask Me About My
CF Cert T-shirt cause I just don't want to have to deal with the
groupies. 

Joking aside though, the Book and the software are most excellent. Even
if you are not caring so much about the cert, the book and practice
tests really go a LONG way in pointing out how much you don't realize
that you don't know about CF. 


..
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
www.bennadel.com
 
Need ColdFusion Help?
www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/

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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Certification

Agreed, the certs are pretty much worthless in the real world.









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To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Dec 15 16:56:38 2006
Subject: RE: Certification

Make sure you know how to write CFML.

You could cheat like most people do and use the certification study
guide. 
I personally don't think the certification is worth the paper it is
printed on. I know several people who got Advanced ColdFusion
developers
certifications, when in reality they are nothing of the sort.

Russ 

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From: Neil Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2006 15:36
To: CF-Talk
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Re: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

2006-12-15 Thread Christopher Jordan
That was a great post, Steve. I'm not even in that sort of position 
right, now and I found it very helpful. :o)

Cheers,
Chris

Andy Matthews wrote:
 Great input Steve.

 I suspected as much, thank you.

 !//--
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 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:32 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN


 My first mother-in-law was a top-notch, nationally recognized
 professional coach and she taught me a few things about interviews and
 jobs that have served my very well over the years.

 1.  Companies can always afford to pay you more than they offer you.
 2.  Always counter-offer their proposed salary. It's expected, even if
 they say no.
 3.  If they give you the first opportunity to say what salary you are
 expecting, they are unwittingly giving you a position of strength.  Take
 the number you would expect to get for this position and add $15,000
 dollars.  It's a fantastic place to start negotiations from.

 Now, these are very hard steps to take.  These are skills that we are
 not born with and we've been indoctrinated during our entire lives to
 not negotiate when it comes to salaries as it might come across as
 greedy.  Your first attempt at negoating will be very uncomfortable.
 Try practicing it with a family member or a friend, just to get
 comfortable with the conversation.

 The company wants to offer you as little as possible for your skills,
 and you should be asking for the most amount possible for your skills.
 More often than not, a compromise that makes both parties happy occurs.

 Good luck!


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 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Coldfusion salaries - Nashville, TN

 Hey everyone...

 I've been offered a position with a company here in Nashville, TN.
 Everything that I've seen so far about the offer sounds great, including
 the pay. I just wanted to ask a a few general questions because I don't
 like talking about money.

 1) Should I take the first offer they make? Should I counteroffer for
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 2) Where can I go to find real-world salaries? I checked Salary.com but
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Re: Components Fusebox 5

2006-12-15 Thread Chris Ditty
My directory structure is rather plain.

/
/act
/includes
/qry
/dsp

I am trying to make the include from the circuit.xml.cfm.  This is
what I currently have that does not work.

circuit access=public
fuseaction name=home
xfa name=submitForm value=main.home /
include template=includes/functions.cfc/
include template=act/act_killSessions.cfm/
include template=dsp/dsp_welcome.cfm/
/fuseaction
/circuit

On 12/15/06, Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would help to see what your directory structure is and how you are
 calling the include and from where.  If its from your circuit.xml.cfm, try
 making the call relative to the parsed directory.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Ditty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:31 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Components  Fusebox 5

 I am trying to write my first fusebox 5 app using MX7 and components.
 I usually like to keep my functions in a seperate file in another directory.
 When I try and do an include, I get an error saying that I am missing a
 Fuse.

 I could include this function library in all my pages, but I would rather it
 be called just once per fuse action.

 Any ideas?

 thanks



 

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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Lol, I would seriously have to question the kinda of bars you frequent... :)








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Subject: RE: Certification

What are you talking about?!?!??!?! The ladies love the certification :)
Every time I walk into a bar it's always like Ooooh, tell me again how
CFHttp works? It's so exciting when you talk about parsing CSV files at
a given URL. On really long, I opt not to even wear my Ask Me About My
CF Cert T-shirt cause I just don't want to have to deal with the
groupies. 

Joking aside though, the Book and the software are most excellent. Even
if you are not caring so much about the cert, the book and practice
tests really go a LONG way in pointing out how much you don't realize
that you don't know about CF. 


...
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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Certification

Agreed, the certs are pretty much worthless in the real world.









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To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Dec 15 16:56:38 2006
Subject: RE: Certification

Make sure you know how to write CFML.

You could cheat like most people do and use the certification study
guide. 
I personally don't think the certification is worth the paper it is
printed on. I know several people who got Advanced ColdFusion
developers
certifications, when in reality they are nothing of the sort.

Russ 

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Sent: 15 December 2006 15:36
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Subject: Certification

Does anyone have any opinions on the best ways to prepare for the CFMX
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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Aaron Rouse
I actually had the lack of a CF certification held strongly against me about
2-3 years ago in a job interview.  Whether the piece of paper means
something or not, I doubt it hurts to have when someone also has many years
of experience with CF.  With that said though, I still have yet to get
around to getting one.

On 12/15/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Agreed, the certs are pretty much worthless in the real world.


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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Doug Bezona
 Lol, I would seriously have to question the kinda of bars you
frequent...
 :)

I think I've been to that bar *shudder*

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RE: Components Fusebox 5

2006-12-15 Thread Sandra Clark
You might want to use instantiate / and invoke /  for your cfc.  In that
case, if you don't want to create a mapping for your cfc, then you can place
your cfc's in a directory under the parsed directory.

In fusebox.xml
classes
class alias=functions classpath=cfc.functions type=component
constructor=init /
/classes

globalfuseactions
appinit
do action=public.initfunction /
/appinit
/globalfuseactions

In your circuit (I called it public, you can call it from wherever you want)
fuseaction name=initfunction
instantiate object=application.functions
class=functions overwrite=true /
/fuseaction

Then when you need to call a function from it, you would call it either via
the invoke or set tags

set name=returnitemifnecessary
value=#application.functions.methodcall()# /
 OR 
invoke returnvariable=returnitemifnecessary object=application.function
methodcall=methodToBeCalled()
parameter name=parametername value=parametervalue /
/invoke







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-Original Message-
From: Chris Ditty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Components  Fusebox 5

My directory structure is rather plain.

/
/act
/includes
/qry
/dsp

I am trying to make the include from the circuit.xml.cfm.  This is what I
currently have that does not work.

circuit access=public
fuseaction name=home
xfa name=submitForm value=main.home /
include template=includes/functions.cfc/
include template=act/act_killSessions.cfm/
include template=dsp/dsp_welcome.cfm/
/fuseaction
/circuit

On 12/15/06, Sandra Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would help to see what your directory structure is and how you are 
 calling the include and from where.  If its from your circuit.xml.cfm, 
 try making the call relative to the parsed directory.


 Sandra Clark
 ==
 http://www.shayna.com
 Training in Cascading Style Sheets and Accessibility


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Ditty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:31 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Components  Fusebox 5

 I am trying to write my first fusebox 5 app using MX7 and components.
 I usually like to keep my functions in a seperate file in another
directory.
 When I try and do an include, I get an error saying that I am missing 
 a Fuse.

 I could include this function library in all my pages, but I would 
 rather it be called just once per fuse action.

 Any ideas?

 thanks



 



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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
And indeed, as you said they do/can show you what you did and do not know
and are a great teaching tool but the actual cert is meaningless.











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Sent: Fri Dec 15 17:39:46 2006
Subject: RE: Certification

What are you talking about?!?!??!?! The ladies love the certification :)
Every time I walk into a bar it's always like Ooooh, tell me again how
CFHttp works? It's so exciting when you talk about parsing CSV files at
a given URL. On really long, I opt not to even wear my Ask Me About My
CF Cert T-shirt cause I just don't want to have to deal with the
groupies. 

Joking aside though, the Book and the software are most excellent. Even
if you are not caring so much about the cert, the book and practice
tests really go a LONG way in pointing out how much you don't realize
that you don't know about CF. 


...
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
www.bennadel.com
 
Need ColdFusion Help?
www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/

-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Certification

Agreed, the certs are pretty much worthless in the real world.









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From: Snake
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Dec 15 16:56:38 2006
Subject: RE: Certification

Make sure you know how to write CFML.

You could cheat like most people do and use the certification study
guide. 
I personally don't think the certification is worth the paper it is
printed on. I know several people who got Advanced ColdFusion
developers
certifications, when in reality they are nothing of the sort.

Russ 

-Original Message-
From: Neil Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2006 15:36
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Certification

Does anyone have any opinions on the best ways to prepare for the CFMX
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--

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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 12/15/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And indeed, as you said they do/can show you what you did and do not know
 and are a great teaching tool but the actual cert is meaningless.

meaningless is subjective.

You and me and everyone else on this list know that the cert is
meaningless when it comes to determining who is a better programmer.

But let's ask someone who's job hunting...and a particular company has
narrowed their search down to two candidates... our friend and one
other person.  EVERYTHING between the two is equal (years of
experience, skill level, education)...except the other person has
their cert, and in this instance, that is enough to tip the scales in
favor of the other person, who gets the job.  Ask them if it's
meaningless.

I've got my cert in MX 6 and MX 7.  It's never helped me.  But I don't
regret having it for one simple fact.  It will NEVER hurt me.


-- 
Charlie Griefer


...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies,
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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Ray Champagne
 I've got my cert in MX 6 and MX 7.  It's never helped me.  But I don't
 regret having it for one simple fact.  It will NEVER hurt me.
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You could get a paper cut...




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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Steve Brownlee
chuckle 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Certification

 I've got my cert in MX 6 and MX 7.  It's never helped me.  But I don't

 regret having it for one simple fact.  It will NEVER hurt me.
 --
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You could get a paper cut...


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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Teddy Payne
Certification is a foundation to the overall process of being a developer.
I would recommend it to anyone who wants to learn what is new about each
revision of ColdFusion.

I assisted in a study group to help people certify and everyone who
regularly attended benefited from the material.  We use Ben's certification
as guidance, but advocated the CF Exam buster.

Years of ColdFusion usage with multiple projects will determine a well
rounded developer or problem solver.

I would recommend that if you become F certified, that you follow up with
another certification that will assist your CF knowledge.  Examples would be
database centric certifications or perhaps the entry level Java
certification.

Teddy

On 12/15/06, Ray Champagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've got my cert in MX 6 and MX 7.  It's never helped me.  But I don't
  regret having it for one simple fact.  It will NEVER hurt me.
  --
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 You could get a paper cut...




 

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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
Nah...

The paper's too thick.

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Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Certification


 I've got my cert in MX 6 and MX 7.  It's never helped me.  But I don't
 regret having it for one simple fact.  It will NEVER hurt me.
 --
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You could get a paper cut...






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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 12/15/06, Steve Brownlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've got my cert in MX 6 and MX 7.  It's never helped me.  But I don't

  regret having it for one simple fact.  It will NEVER hurt me.
  --
  Charlie Griefer

 You could get a paper cut...

Nuh-uh.  It's in a frame :P  (and quite nicely covers a piece of the
wall that could use some sanding and painting.  hey...i guess it -has-
helped me) :)

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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Burns, John D
I strongly agree. The one other thing to point out is that it's just
like college degrees and even high school diplomas. In reality, they're
really not that hard to get. They don't mean you're really all that
smart because I've seen plenty of morons with Masters degrees and even
PhDs but it's the fact that they did it. I work in the gov't world and
they base a lot on the degrees you have. I wouldn't ever claim that a CF
certification will get you paid more, but in the mind of a manager (who
may not know much) it probably looks pretty impressive.

John Burns

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From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Certification

On 12/15/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And indeed, as you said they do/can show you what you did and do not
know
 and are a great teaching tool but the actual cert is meaningless.

meaningless is subjective.

You and me and everyone else on this list know that the cert is
meaningless when it comes to determining who is a better programmer.

But let's ask someone who's job hunting...and a particular company has
narrowed their search down to two candidates... our friend and one
other person.  EVERYTHING between the two is equal (years of
experience, skill level, education)...except the other person has
their cert, and in this instance, that is enough to tip the scales in
favor of the other person, who gets the job.  Ask them if it's
meaningless.

I've got my cert in MX 6 and MX 7.  It's never helped me.  But I don't
regret having it for one simple fact.  It will NEVER hurt me.


-- 
Charlie Griefer


...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies,
and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must
catch
you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning.
Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.



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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Hmm, I can't remember ever having to ago my certs for my degrees in fact, I
am not even sure where they are!






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To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Dec 15 19:18:56 2006
Subject: RE: Certification

I strongly agree. The one other thing to point out is that it's just
like college degrees and even high school diplomas. In reality, they're
really not that hard to get. They don't mean you're really all that
smart because I've seen plenty of morons with Masters degrees and even
PhDs but it's the fact that they did it. I work in the gov't world and
they base a lot on the degrees you have. I wouldn't ever claim that a CF
certification will get you paid more, but in the mind of a manager (who
may not know much) it probably looks pretty impressive.

John Burns

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On 12/15/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And indeed, as you said they do/can show you what you did and do not
know
 and are a great teaching tool but the actual cert is meaningless.

meaningless is subjective.

You and me and everyone else on this list know that the cert is
meaningless when it comes to determining who is a better programmer.

But let's ask someone who's job hunting...and a particular company has
narrowed their search down to two candidates... our friend and one
other person.  EVERYTHING between the two is equal (years of
experience, skill level, education)...except the other person has
their cert, and in this instance, that is enough to tip the scales in
favor of the other person, who gets the job.  Ask them if it's
meaningless.

I've got my cert in MX 6 and MX 7.  It's never helped me.  But I don't
regret having it for one simple fact.  It will NEVER hurt me.


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Re: CSS, border-bottom is on top

2006-12-15 Thread Jacob Munson
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 It's the least I can do for you since you developed cfQuickDocs.

Shhh, don't tell anybody, but this is actually part of a CFQuickDocs
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Re: setting the default font in FCK editor?

2006-12-15 Thread Mullai Subbiah
Did you have any luck?

Thanks.

Mullai
In my FCK instance, the default font is displayed as Arial. My client's site
uses verdana and she sometimes forgets to change the font manually. I'd like
to know if it's possible to either remove all other fonts from the list or
force the font selector to verdana.

Anyone have an idea on this?

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RE: CSS, border-bottom is on top

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
Alex the seal
http://www.kissthisguy.com/lyric.php?id=4214

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On 12/15/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Shhh, don't tell anybody, but this is actually part of a CFQuickDocs
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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 Certification is a foundation to the overall process of being a developer.
 I would recommend it to anyone who wants to learn what is new about each
 revision of ColdFusion.

I'd have to say if a developer needs to take an exam to learn new features then 
perhaps they aren't a very good developer.

A developer should be learning constantly everyday.

Cheers

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Referencing Goofy Fieldnames

2006-12-15 Thread Karl
I will have data to routinely import into SQL Server from Excel files 
constructed with goofy column headers like Business Classification 
and Owner's Name that may contain spaces and/or single quotes.  I 
will need to be doing these imports fairly frequently so I am trying 
to avoid the seemingly easy solution of renaming the Excel columns 
before importing so that I can make the process almost automatic 
(saving lots of time in the long run).  Surprisingly the data get 
imported into SQL Server just fine with such goofy names as field 
names.  Since the imported data won't necessarily always have the 
exact same fieldnames or even the same order in the spreadsheet, I 
need to build a dynamic import process that will take imported Excel 
data from its first table in SQL Server and allow me to assign its 
somewhat random and goofy fieldnames to standard fieldnames in a 
second table in the same database where the data are to be actually 
used and then INSERT the data into the second table.  This takes a few steps:

Since the fieldnames may vary from import to import, I am getting 
them in a two-step process this way:

CFQUERY NAME=GetTables DATASOURCE=YadaYada
SELECT Name, id
FROM  sysobjects
WHERE  (xtype = 'U') AND (name LIKE 'Import%')
/CFQUERY

This gives me the name and id for all of my import tables that I 
output on a web page as a series of links with a URL variable 
referencing the id so that I can then use another query to get the 
fieldnames of any of my import tables like so:

CFQUERY NAME=GetFields DATASOURCE=YadaYada
SELECT name
FROM syscolumns
WHERE id = #URL.id#
/CFQUERY

I then output the fieldnames from the GetFields query like so, in 
order to use them in a third query, protecting goofy fieldnames with 
brackets so SQL Server doesn't choke:

CFSET FieldList = ''

CFOUTPUT QUERY=GetFields
CFSET FieldList = FieldList  '[#Name#], '
/CFOUTPUT

CFSET FieldList = FieldList  '3.1416 AS Pi' (this is just to dodge 
the trailing comma from the last CFSET above)


So far so good, as I am able to get the data out of each Import table 
by referencing its fieldnames (yes I could use SELECT * but then I'd 
still have the same problem as below and this does work fine):

CFQUERY NAME=GetData DATASOURCE=YadaYada
SELECT #PreserveSingleQuotes(Variables.FieldList)#
FROM #URL.TableName#
/CFQUERY

PreserveSingleQuotes is needed above to protect against bombing when 
fieldnames have single quotes in them, and the resulting dynamic 
query above can come out looking like this (keep in mind that 
fieldnames will vary slightly between different Import tables):

SELECT [Business], [Business Classification], [Location Address], 
[Mail City], [Mailing Address], [Owner's Name]
FROM ImportTable27

This ugly hack works fine up to here.  Unfortunately I am hung up 
trying to get ColdFusion to read the goofy fieldnames without 
throwing errors.  Trying to output the data in ColdFusion I get this:

Invalid CFML construct found on line 1 at column 10.  (CF gets the 
line wrong, not unusual)

ColdFusion was looking at the following text:

Classification

The error occurred in C:\htdocs\DevTesting\GetTables.cfm: line 55

53 :   CFLOOP LIST=#ValueList(GetFields.Name)# INDEX=ii
54 :  CFSET FieldName = '#ii#'
55 :  #Evaluate('#FieldName#')#
56 :   /CFLOOP
57 :


This error happens where the above CFLOOP is contained in this CFOUTPUT QUERY:

CFOUTPUT QUERY=GetData
CFLOOP LIST=#ValueList(GetFields.Name)# INDEX=ii
   CFSET FieldName = '#ii#'
   #Evaluate('#FieldName#')#
/CFLOOP
br /
/CFOUTPUT

What appears to be happening in this case is that the first field, 
Business, passes okay (the first field in the first record is output 
on the page), but Business Classification is not being read properly 
by ColdFusion since the error indicates that ColdFusion was looking 
at Classification, missing or skipping the preceding Business in the 
Business Classification field.  I have already tried several 
strategies like CFSET FieldName = '[#ii#]' in the CFLOOP but then 
ColdFusion chokes on the brackets.  Also problems occur with variants 
of #Evaluate('#FieldName#')# like #Evaluate(#FieldName#)# and 
#Evaluate(FieldName)#.  (I am using the latest MX 7 developer's 
edition and SQL Server 2000 trial edition on WinXP).

What I want to do next is output all the data onto a web page from an 
Import table so that I can look at it and decide which of the 
random/goofy fieldnames from Excel imports in SQL Server belong to 
which of my standard fieldnames in the second and final table which 
the data will be moved to.  I intend to finish this little utility so 
that I can select in dropdown boxes which fields from an Import table 
will correspond with which fields in my final data table in order to 
dynamically construct the necessary INSERT query.  All that I need to 
get past this hurdle is to figure out how to get ColdFusion to output 
goofy fieldnames dynamically as 

Re: Referencing Goofy Fieldnames

2006-12-15 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 12/15/06, Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I will have data to routinely import into SQL Server from Excel files
 constructed with goofy column headers like Business Classification
 and Owner's Name that may contain spaces and/or single quotes.

(snipped)

disclaimer up front...i didn't read all of the post :)

2 things:

1) you can use the array notation with query data.
queryName[columnName][n] (where 'n' is the current row being
referenced)

2) if you can alias the column names in the SQL to something more CF
Friendly, that would avoid having to go the array notation route
mentioned above.

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RE: Referencing Goofy Fieldnames

2006-12-15 Thread Ian Skinner
You need to use Array notation which allows you to reference variables that do 
not follow proper variable naming rules.  I'm not sure exactly where you would 
put this in your process but it would look something like this.

X = form[Bad Name]
OR
Y = variables[What's Up Doc]

Obviously you can use other variables in the brackets:
varName = Cool Man Luke
z = queryName[varName]

P.S.
Using array notation almost always eliminates the need to use evaluate().

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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Teddy Payne
Bryan,
What if it isn't you primary job role?
What about new people?
What about right after a major update release and you want to learn and
certify on the new version ASAP?

People study in many different ways.  Some people do well by doing examples
and others are good book learners.

I have been using CF for 8 years and I got a 84% because I keep mixing up
features from 6, 7 and 8.

A lot of developers get comfortable with what works and do not use the
entire language.  I know that I use certain techniques over others because
of peformance reasons or code complexity.  The certification forces you to
think of all of the functions you are not used to working with everyday.

I will probably retake the test and get above 84%, but just blanketly saying
what people should be doing is entirely subjective.

Cheers,
Teddy

On 12/15/06, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Certification is a foundation to the overall process of being a
 developer.
  I would recommend it to anyone who wants to learn what is new about each
  revision of ColdFusion.

 I'd have to say if a developer needs to take an exam to learn new features
 then
 perhaps they aren't a very good developer.

 A developer should be learning constantly everyday.

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UPS Tracking Code for everyone to use

2006-12-15 Thread Will Tomlinson
With Bobby's help, I got my UPS tracking display working nicely. It works with 
Ray's new UPS Package. 

I put it up for viewing for anyone else that might need it. I chose to closely 
mimic the look'n feel of the tacking page on UPS's site. The CSS is all there 
too, so do with it what you want. 

http://wtomlinson.com/UPStrackingcode.htm

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RE: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Doug Bezona
 I'd have to say if a developer needs to take an exam to learn new
features
 then
 perhaps they aren't a very good developer.

Or perhaps the work they are doing simply doesn't expose them to some of
the more esoteric functions of the language that the exam likely covers.

Being a good developer has less to do with having memorized every last
tag, function and feature, and much more with how that knowledge is
applied to solve a problem. I can always look in the docs to get an
answer to a syntax question, but the docs don't tell me how to use it to
solve the particular problem in front of me - that's where experience
and skill comes in.

Exams, however, by their nature, tend to be more about reciting syntax
and knowing the language in a broad fashion, rather than a deep one. 

So I can see how brushing up for an exam might give me more than a few
a ha! moments as I cover aspects of the language I simply haven't had
a real world use for, and it's useful information, but whether I knew it
or not before hand has little bearing on how well I write software.






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Re: UPS Tracking Code for everyone to use

2006-12-15 Thread Will Tomlinson
I forgot to mention, I'm displaying just the basic info like the UPS website 
does. There's plenty more data to display if you want, but this would get you a 
good start on it. 

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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Brian Rinaldi
I would like to make the point that the certs are not worthless - they answer 
the question as to your knowledge for 90% of the interviews you will take...you 
will rarely get anyone outright questioning your knowledge of CF if you have 
the advanced certification. I haven't gotten the 7 cert myself yet, but I have 
other things on my resume that fill that gap on my resume in terms of providing 
proof of my CF knowledge.

I am also going to take serious issue with the concept that preparing for an 
exam is cheating. That is a seriously bone-headed comment. This exam is like 
any other exam and warrants preparation if you actually take it seriously...if 
you don't take it seriously, then don't prepare take your chances, but one 
would ask, why even bother taking it if you don't take the exam seriously 
enough to prepare.

P.S. Back when I took the exam for 5 and 6, I used the cfexambuster and it was 
excellent.

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When Keystone releases a new CF7 video tutorial?

2006-12-15 Thread Ali Majdzadeh
Hi everybody: I was searching for some video tutorials for coldfusion and look 
what I found http://store.keystonelearning.com/ColdFusionMX7.aspx 11chapters of 
tutorials form the very begining to some advanced options. It looks complete 
for a movie tutorial. Do you know when it will be released? It really makes 
meexcited that at last I can have a complete overview of Coldfusion7 options 
while I watch a movie.
I believe it helps many people start CF7 and some who ork with it fill their 
empty parts. Just do me a favor and tell me when it comes out?
Thanks
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Re: When Keystone releases a new CF7 video tutorial?

2006-12-15 Thread Dan Vega
Ali,
I am not sure when the release date is but I would really love to hear your
ideas about the following

http://www.danvega.org/blog/index.cfm/2006/12/1/ColdFusion-Video-Tutorials

Thanks!

On 12/15/06, Ali Majdzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everybody: I was searching for some video tutorials for coldfusion and
 look what I found 
 http://store.keystonelearning.com/ColdFusionMX7.aspx11chapters of tutorials 
 form the very begining to some advanced options. It
 looks complete for a movie tutorial. Do you know when it will be released?
 It really makes meexcited that at last I can have a complete overview of
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 I believe it helps many people start CF7 and some who ork with it fill
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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 Bryan,
 What if it isn't you primary job role?
we are talking about developers...and knowing what they are doing is their job

 What about new people?
What about themI'd have them read WACK before putting them through an exam

 What about right after a major update release and you want to learn and
 certify on the new version ASAP?
Only matters if you want to certify (which I see no need for other than to line 
coporate pockets).  I simply read the docs for the new version and learn 
myself. 
I sure don't need an exam for that

See Doug's postit sums up my thoughts on the subject failry well.

I'm done with this subject...everyone can believe what they want...I'm going to 
keep my opinion and get actual work done ;-)

Cheers

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Re: When Keystone releases a new CF7 video tutorial?

2006-12-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
It looks like CFWACK on video to me.

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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I doubt you would be chosen just because you have a cert, we always test
developers who come for interview and we have turned away many certified
ones who knew jack when it can to real written and oral test.

The non certs were the ones who shone.



 


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-Original Message-
From: Brian Rinaldi
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Dec 15 18:51:43 2006
Subject: Re: Certification

I would like to make the point that the certs are not worthless - they
answer the question as to your knowledge for 90% of the interviews you will
take...you will rarely get anyone outright questioning your knowledge of CF
if you have the advanced certification. I haven't gotten the 7 cert myself
yet, but I have other things on my resume that fill that gap on my resume in
terms of providing proof of my CF knowledge.

I am also going to take serious issue with the concept that preparing for an
exam is cheating. That is a seriously bone-headed comment. This exam is like
any other exam and warrants preparation if you actually take it
seriously...if you don't take it seriously, then don't prepare take your
chances, but one would ask, why even bother taking it if you don't take the
exam seriously enough to prepare.

P.S. Back when I took the exam for 5 and 6, I used the cfexambuster and it
was excellent.

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Re: When Keystone releases a new CF7 video tutorial?

2006-12-15 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 12/15/06, Ali Majdzadeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everybody: I was searching for some video tutorials for coldfusion and 
 look what I found http://store.keystonelearning.com/ColdFusionMX7.aspx 
 11chapters of tutorials form the very begining to some advanced options. It 
 looks complete for a movie tutorial. Do you know when it will be released? It 
 really makes meexcited that at last I can have a complete overview of 
 Coldfusion7 options while I watch a movie.
 I believe it helps many people start CF7 and some who ork with it fill their 
 empty parts. Just do me a favor and tell me when it comes out?

Why not e-mail or phone the company that's creating it and ask them
when it comes out?  Not trying to be snarky, but they'd probably know
better than we would.

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Re: When Keystone releases a new CF7 video tutorial?

2006-12-15 Thread Charlie Griefer
y'know...the book's always better than the movie :)

On 12/15/06, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It looks like CFWACK on video to me.

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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Charlie Griefer
On 12/15/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I doubt you would be chosen just because you have a cert, we always test
 developers who come for interview and we have turned away many certified
 ones who knew jack when it can to real written and oral test.

 The non certs were the ones who shone.

In a case where everything else is equal, it could be a deciding factor.
Also realize that not all places test their interviewees.  Not all
places have what I would consider to be qualified folks doing the
interviewing (it's frequently managers...the same managers who love to
chant the mantra of we don't have time to do it right, we need to get
it done quickly and then wonder why 2 weeks after its release it
breaks horribly) :)

As I've already said...it may -never- help you.  But can you argue
that it could ever hurt to have?


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splitting large csv file into smaller parts

2006-12-15 Thread Will Swain
Hi,
 
I have a tool that reads a nightly uploaded CSV file, and imports the data
in it into a mySQL database. This works fine, after some messing around with
the code to allow for consecutive blank fields in the CSV and stuff like
that.
 
Only problem is, some of these CSV files can be quite large, upto 8MB, with
maybe 50,000 plus records, and these are giving CF server a bit of a
headache.
 
Is there a way I can split the CSV file after upload into, lets say, 8 1Mb
files instead, and then process each one in turn. Maybe using CFFILE to read
a limited number of rows, write them into another file and then delete them
from the original. I can't think of a way to do this.
 
Cheers
 
Will


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Re: setting the default font in FCK editor?

2006-12-15 Thread James Edmunds
Have you tried the fckconfig.js file, in the line:
FCKConfig.FontNames ' 'Arial;Comic Sans

Just a guess,

HTH,

James Edmunds



On 7/17/06, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In my FCK instance, the default font is displayed as Arial. My client's
 site
 uses verdana and she sometimes forgets to change the font manually. I'd
 like
 to know if it's possible to either remove all other fonts from the list or
 force the font selector to verdana.

 Anyone have an idea on this?

 !//--
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RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

2006-12-15 Thread Ben Nadel
Perhaps you could use a Java buffered reader or a line reader and read
in a line at a time. This will stop the server from having to load an
entire file at one time. Then for each line you can parse out the fields
and apply to the DB or what ever.

I have some sample LineNumberReader code here:

http://www.bennadel.com/blog/274-Java-Exploration-in-ColdFusion-java-io-
LineNumberReader.htm
(OR http://www.bennadel.com/index.cfm?dax=blog:274.view)

This would create a LONG running page perhaps... Not sure how to deal
with that.  


..
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Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
www.bennadel.com
 
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-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

Hi,
 
I have a tool that reads a nightly uploaded CSV file, and imports the
data in it into a mySQL database. This works fine, after some messing
around with the code to allow for consecutive blank fields in the CSV
and stuff like that.
 
Only problem is, some of these CSV files can be quite large, upto 8MB,
with maybe 50,000 plus records, and these are giving CF server a bit of
a headache.
 
Is there a way I can split the CSV file after upload into, lets say, 8
1Mb files instead, and then process each one in turn. Maybe using CFFILE
to read a limited number of rows, write them into another file and then
delete them from the original. I can't think of a way to do this.
 
Cheers
 
Will




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RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

2006-12-15 Thread Will Swain
Hi Ben,

That sounds interesting. I've not done much work with Java, but I'll take a
look at the links.

Cheers

Will


-Original Message-
From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 December 2006 20:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

Perhaps you could use a Java buffered reader or a line reader and read in a
line at a time. This will stop the server from having to load an entire file
at one time. Then for each line you can parse out the fields and apply to
the DB or what ever.

I have some sample LineNumberReader code here:

http://www.bennadel.com/blog/274-Java-Exploration-in-ColdFusion-java-io-
LineNumberReader.htm
(OR http://www.bennadel.com/index.cfm?dax=blog:274.view)

This would create a LONG running page perhaps... Not sure how to deal with
that.  


...
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com
 
Need ColdFusion Help?
www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/

-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

Hi,
 
I have a tool that reads a nightly uploaded CSV file, and imports the data
in it into a mySQL database. This works fine, after some messing around with
the code to allow for consecutive blank fields in the CSV and stuff like
that.
 
Only problem is, some of these CSV files can be quite large, upto 8MB, with
maybe 50,000 plus records, and these are giving CF server a bit of a
headache.
 
Is there a way I can split the CSV file after upload into, lets say, 8 1Mb
files instead, and then process each one in turn. Maybe using CFFILE to read
a limited number of rows, write them into another file and then delete them
from the original. I can't think of a way to do this.
 
Cheers
 
Will






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OT: AjaxCFC DHTML Question

2006-12-15 Thread loathe
Hey,

So I wrote this custom tag that basically is a select list that allows you
type in it and filters the options according to what you've typed in.

Some of the data sets in the faux dropdown list are rather large.  I am
populating a table in a floating div and then turning it visible below the
input field where the user is typing.

The problem with the large data sets (say over 100 options) is that it takes
forever to render the table.  So long in fact that FF asks if I want to stop
the script.  Here is how I populate the list:

function setPasField(){ 
var mac_id = DWRUtil.getValue(mac_id);
var macField = $(mac_id);

DWRUtil.useLoadingMessage();

if(mac_id.length == 2){
DWREngine._execute(_ajaxConfig._cfscriptLocation, null,
getPasCodes,mac_id, updatePasList);
}
}

function updatePasList(r){
DWRUtil.setValue(debug,r.dump());

DWRUtil.useLoadingImage();

alert(passBack);


}

function handleKey(myEvent,myField){
/*
 * the function handleKey() moves the highlighted area up and down
in the values div, as well as filtering the values div
 */

DWRUtil.useLoadingImage();
var myArray = new Array(1); // this array will contain the filtered
values
var myData = myField.value.toUpperCase(); // this variable contains
the current value of the form field
var newCounter = 0; // this counter is used to incriment the
filtered value array (myArray)
var loc = -1; // this variable is used to discover which value is
currently highlighted
var fieldName = myField.name;
var arrayName = myField.name + 'Array';
var contentArray = eval(arrayName);
var myDiv = $('tipDiv' + fieldName);


myDiv.style.visibility = visible;
var myDataLength = myData.length

// loop through the existing array of values, and filter out the
ones that fit with the user entered data
for(i = 0; i  contentArray.length; i++){
if(contentArray[i].substr( 0,myDataLength) == myData){
myArray[newCounter] = contentArray[i];
newCounter++
}
}

if(myArray.length  0){

var cellFuncs = [
function(data) { return 'div id=boxOption
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor = \'blue\'; this.style.color =
\'white\' onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor = \'white\';
this.style.color = \'black\' onClick=handleClick(event, this, \'' +
fieldName + '\');' + data + '/div';}
];

DWRUtil.setValue('tipDiv' + fieldName,'table id=tips
border=1/table');
DWRUtil.addRows(tips,myArray,cellFuncs);  
var myTable = $(tips);

// now handle the key stroke
/*for(i = 0; i  myTable.childNodes.length; i++){
if(myTable.childNodes[i].childNodes[0].bgColor ==
blue){
myTable.childNodes[i].childNodes[0].bgColor
== white;
loc = i;
}
}

if(loc == -1){
myTable.childNodes[0].childNodes[0].bgColor ==
blue;
}
*/
}

}


Couple of problems.

1.  The time it takes making the option Div visable.  It takes freaking
forever, optimization people, any ideas?

2.  It's not working at all in IE.  I mean, nothing, and this is unusual, as
I've used the AjaxCFC suff in IE with no problems before.

3.  For some reason I keep getting an error that the response variable
doesn't exist.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.



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ColdFusion News Aggregators

2006-12-15 Thread Nathan C. Smith
Are there any free/low cost news aggregators/readers for ColdFusion?

I would like to put something on our intranet that would let people read
feeds and hopefully share them with others for some cross-pollination.
Searching, I found mention of some aggregators, but most of them seem to be
sites and not software.

Thanks.

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Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 As I've already said...it may -never- help you.  But can you argue
 that it could ever hurt to have?

Yes...the opportunity cost of the time wasted getting the useless piece of 
paper 
;-)

Happy Friday

Cheers

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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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Re: Certification

2006-12-15 Thread Aaron Rouse
I have seen where certifications hurt people, not in the CF world but in the
IT world.  Back when I was working for a computer parts wholesaler anytime
they were hiring for techs if someone came in saying they had A+
certification that immediately meant they were not going to get hired.
Seeing some of the comments on here about how worthless a CF Certification
is makes me wonder if something similar might happen in the CF world.
Probably not an instant no-hire case but perhaps makes it harder for someone
to get hired because the hiring party might be reluctant in accepting the
person interviewing really does know their stuff.

On 12/15/06, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  As I've already said...it may -never- help you.  But can you argue
  that it could ever hurt to have?

 Yes...the opportunity cost of the time wasted getting the useless piece of
 paper
 ;-)

 Happy Friday

 Cheers

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

2006-12-15 Thread Andy Matthews
Sounds like you've thought exactly how to do it.

Your method sounds like it should work.

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-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: splitting large csv file into smaller parts


Hi,

I have a tool that reads a nightly uploaded CSV file, and imports the data
in it into a mySQL database. This works fine, after some messing around with
the code to allow for consecutive blank fields in the CSV and stuff like
that.

Only problem is, some of these CSV files can be quite large, upto 8MB, with
maybe 50,000 plus records, and these are giving CF server a bit of a
headache.

Is there a way I can split the CSV file after upload into, lets say, 8 1Mb
files instead, and then process each one in turn. Maybe using CFFILE to read
a limited number of rows, write them into another file and then delete them
from the original. I can't think of a way to do this.

Cheers

Will




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RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

2006-12-15 Thread Ben Nadel
 
Will,

If you are interested, I can get you some sample code on how I might
parse a CSV file. I could have that for you on Monday.


..
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
www.bennadel.com
 
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-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

Hi Ben,

That sounds interesting. I've not done much work with Java, but I'll
take a look at the links.

Cheers

Will


-Original Message-
From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2006 20:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

Perhaps you could use a Java buffered reader or a line reader and read
in a line at a time. This will stop the server from having to load an
entire file at one time. Then for each line you can parse out the fields
and apply to the DB or what ever.

I have some sample LineNumberReader code here:

http://www.bennadel.com/blog/274-Java-Exploration-in-ColdFusion-java-io-
LineNumberReader.htm
(OR http://www.bennadel.com/index.cfm?dax=blog:274.view)

This would create a LONG running page perhaps... Not sure how to deal
with that.  



Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com
 
Need ColdFusion Help?
www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/

-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

Hi,
 
I have a tool that reads a nightly uploaded CSV file, and imports the
data in it into a mySQL database. This works fine, after some messing
around with the code to allow for consecutive blank fields in the CSV
and stuff like that.
 
Only problem is, some of these CSV files can be quite large, upto 8MB,
with maybe 50,000 plus records, and these are giving CF server a bit of
a headache.
 
Is there a way I can split the CSV file after upload into, lets say, 8
1Mb files instead, and then process each one in turn. Maybe using CFFILE
to read a limited number of rows, write them into another file and then
delete them from the original. I can't think of a way to do this.
 
Cheers
 
Will








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CFC Technical Question

2006-12-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
I just discovered something strange. I accidentally moved a CFC from my CFC
directory to a different one. Of course when I did this my application that
called a function in that CFC broke. So I cut and pasted the CFC back to
where it belongs. However, each page that calls on that CFC for a function
remained broken until I went to that page, delete the CFINVOKE tag and then
re-added it. Is this normal behavior for CFC's?

Thanks,
Bruce


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Re: setting the default font in FCK editor?

2006-12-15 Thread Rick Root
I usually do this by applying a CSS file to the editor window... it's 
also configurable in the fckconfig.js or via the cfc implementation (you 
don't have to edit the fckconfig.js if you do it that way)

Rick

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RE: CFC Technical Question

2006-12-15 Thread Brad Wood
Interesting.  It looks like it fixed when it recompiled.

 Either that or your browser was caching the error message and not
returning to the server because it was getting a 304 back.

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFC Technical Question

I just discovered something strange. I accidentally moved a CFC from my
CFC
directory to a different one. Of course when I did this my application
that
called a function in that CFC broke. So I cut and pasted the CFC back to
where it belongs. However, each page that calls on that CFC for a
function
remained broken until I went to that page, delete the CFINVOKE tag and
then
re-added it. Is this normal behavior for CFC's?

Thanks,
Bruce


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RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

2006-12-15 Thread Will Swain
That would be awesome Ben. I playing around with your code at the moment but
I doubt I'll be able to do much with it this weekend (kids to look after and
all that!!)

Plus the fact it's dinnertime!!

Cheers

Will



-Original Message-
From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 December 2006 21:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

 
Will,

If you are interested, I can get you some sample code on how I might parse a
CSV file. I could have that for you on Monday.


...
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com
 
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-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

Hi Ben,

That sounds interesting. I've not done much work with Java, but I'll take a
look at the links.

Cheers

Will


-Original Message-
From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2006 20:43
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

Perhaps you could use a Java buffered reader or a line reader and read in a
line at a time. This will stop the server from having to load an entire file
at one time. Then for each line you can parse out the fields and apply to
the DB or what ever.

I have some sample LineNumberReader code here:

http://www.bennadel.com/blog/274-Java-Exploration-in-ColdFusion-java-io-
LineNumberReader.htm
(OR http://www.bennadel.com/index.cfm?dax=blog:274.view)

This would create a LONG running page perhaps... Not sure how to deal with
that.  


.
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com
 
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www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/

-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

Hi,
 
I have a tool that reads a nightly uploaded CSV file, and imports the data
in it into a mySQL database. This works fine, after some messing around with
the code to allow for consecutive blank fields in the CSV and stuff like
that.
 
Only problem is, some of these CSV files can be quite large, upto 8MB, with
maybe 50,000 plus records, and these are giving CF server a bit of a
headache.
 
Is there a way I can split the CSV file after upload into, lets say, 8 1Mb
files instead, and then process each one in turn. Maybe using CFFILE to read
a limited number of rows, write them into another file and then delete them
from the original. I can't think of a way to do this.
 
Cheers
 
Will










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Re: CFC Technical Question

2006-12-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
That is possible. I just wanted to make sure this is someting that is
expected in with CFC's.

thanks


On 12/15/06, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Interesting.  It looks like it fixed when it recompiled.

 Either that or your browser was caching the error message and not
 returning to the server because it was getting a 304 back.

 ~Brad

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:13 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFC Technical Question

 I just discovered something strange. I accidentally moved a CFC from my
 CFC
 directory to a different one. Of course when I did this my application
 that
 called a function in that CFC broke. So I cut and pasted the CFC back to
 where it belongs. However, each page that calls on that CFC for a
 function
 remained broken until I went to that page, delete the CFINVOKE tag and
 then
 re-added it. Is this normal behavior for CFC's?

 Thanks,
 Bruce


 

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RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

2006-12-15 Thread Will Swain
Well, my test has just run into problems and thrown a
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError error.

I'm thinking though maybe I can use the LineNumberReader code to split the
csv file into smaller parts. Maybe take 5,000 rows at a time and write them
out to a new csv file.

Then I can just run the processing code that I already have on each smaller
file. Does that logic seem sound to you?

Cheers

Will


-Original Message-
From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 December 2006 21:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: splitting large csv file into smaller parts

 
Will,

If you are interested, I can get you some sample code on how I might parse a
CSV file. I could have that for you on Monday.


...
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer www.bennadel.com
 
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www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/



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Re: When Keystone releases a new CF7 video tutorial?

2006-12-15 Thread Ali Majdzadeh
Dan:
It's great idea. If you start it CF can compete with other server side 
technologies much easier. There are many sources for PHP for example and I hope 
one day CF tutorials, communities and online resources can compete with PHP's.
Thanks
Benign
P.S: In some posts I told you about the software I prefer for making tutorials 
and it was Camtasia but after looking at some new options in Captative I 
believe it looks great too.

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Re: OT: AjaxCFC DHTML Question

2006-12-15 Thread Denny Valliant
Yo loathe!

I've written a couple, and teh solution is to not grab all 100+
records at once.

You really don't need to grab any records at all, to begin
with.  If you do want to start it with some data, that's cool,
but limit it to 15 or so list items.  You can get more as
the user types (I usually start at 2 chars), vs. populating
the whole thing off the bat.

Many AJAX implimentation libraries come with something
that'll do most of this for you.  With dojo, it's as easy as
specifing what URL to get the JS data from.

I'd recommend using a library, as they've got the whole
down arrow, etc. stuff already coded.

As for the script timeout error, there is an easy solution,
but I don't remember what it is...  lotta help I be, eh?

If you want a dojo example I can send you some code,
and I have some old stuff that uses rico.js somewhere...

Ping me off-list if so, I'm not activly monitoring cf-talk.

On 12/15/06, loathe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey,

 So I wrote this custom tag that basically is a select list that allows you
 type in it and filters the options according to what you've typed in.


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Re: When Keystone releases a new CF7 video tutorial?

2006-12-15 Thread Ali Majdzadeh
y'know...the book's always better than the movie :)
You know Charlie, the first day I started programming I asked someone which one 
is the best and he said; the one that works fr you. I believe that. Movies 
helped me start CF while books help me a lot as references. I can't say which 
one is better but I believe CF7 is good and I use all sorts of tutorials to 
learn it.
Thanks
Benign

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