[Chevelle-list] Changing the subject
So why not just start a new email and include a correct Subject? It eliminates all the replies to something you're not trying to convey and makes it hard for someone to find your thread with the wrong Subject. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of crispe...@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:50 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Dual Master? Its got nothing to do with this but i have the a/c setup from my 70 for sale if anyone is interested shoot me an offer
Re: [Chevelle-list] power glide
What year Powerglide? Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:11 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] power glide Guys, Does anyone have any power glide pictures and diagrams on how to hook it up to a floor shift. And any other info that may be of help? Thanks Alex
Re: [Chevelle-list] power glide
What type of floor shift? Check with vendors such as ShiftWorks, Lokar, Hurst, BM, etc. especially for installation instructions. Each will have a different installation procedure and a difference between a cable setup or mechanical linkage. The factory Assembly Instruction Manual (AIM) will also have information on a stock mechanical linkage setup. http://macswebs.com/6667aim/67/upcxx/m/files/m35a11.jpg shows how to adjust the factory linkage. There are other pages dealing with throttle linkage and neutral safety switches. I have AIMs on CD at my website http://chevellecd.net Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:16 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] power glide It came out of a 67 aluminum case. _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:15 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] power glide What year Powerglide? Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:11 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] power glide Guys, Does anyone have any power glide pictures and diagrams on how to hook it up to a floor shift. And any other info that may be of help? Thanks Alex
Re: [Chevelle-list] power glide
The BM Unimatic is a cable operated shifter. There are downloadable instructions on their page at http://www.bmracing.com/PRODUCTS/Performance-Automatic-Shifters/Unimatic-shi fter. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 4:06 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] power glide Dale, Im putting it in a 68 malibu with a B+M Unimatic shifter. Thanks Alex _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:44 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] power glide What type of floor shift? Check with vendors such as ShiftWorks, Lokar, Hurst, BM, etc. especially for installation instructions. Each will have a different installation procedure and a difference between a cable setup or mechanical linkage. The factory Assembly Instruction Manual (AIM) will also have information on a stock mechanical linkage setup. http://macswebs.com/6667aim/67/upcxx/m/files/m35a11.jpg shows how to adjust the factory linkage. There are other pages dealing with throttle linkage and neutral safety switches. I have AIMs on CD at my website http://chevellecd.net Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:16 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] power glide It came out of a 67 aluminum case. _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:15 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] power glide What year Powerglide? Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 1:11 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] power glide Guys, Does anyone have any power glide pictures and diagrams on how to hook it up to a floor shift. And any other info that may be of help? Thanks Alex
Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327
Full size1965 Chevrolet as shown in the thread below under Platform (B is full size Chevrolet). Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:08 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 The date code is E 15 5. So that makes it a 65 327. There is no 327 listed for Chevelles in 65 with an HA code. Wonder what it came out of? _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:20 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Yes but you'll notice the only HA Chevelle (A) code is 1969. It could very well be an engine block from a full size Chevrolet (B) though. In any event, it's probably a good engine and no reason not to use it unless you enter in some shows as an original or original restored car and they even check engine codes - which many do not, not even AACA. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Brad Waller Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:34 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 From ChevelleStuff.net, I found more than one HA code, but no IHA codes. Code Year CID HP Trans Platform/Comments HA 1965 327 250 MT B HA 1967-68327 275 MT B HAH 1966 327 275 MT B, Holley HAR 1966 327 275 MT B, Rochester HB 1965 327 300 MT B, HP HB 1966-7 327 275 MT B, A.I.R. HB 1968 327 275 MT B, HDC HA 1969 350 300 MT A, F, X It could be any of the three. You will want to find the casting number to see which block it is, and then see if you can find the casting date. For tips, see http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sblock.php That site has the best casting codes, suffix info, and other engine stuff out there for our cars. Been using it for over ten years. Nasty Z28 has two HA codes: HA 1965 327 4 spd tran. std 275 4 full size/Camaro HA 1969 350 manual trans 300 4 A F X Check the date for the most accurate estimate of what it was. Brad Waller From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:44 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Engine numbers T052IHA, 3858180 Intake 3875954 Heads 3795896 Crank 2680 Guys the only number i cant figure out is the T052IHA, i think from the story i got its a replacement motor. I brought it home saturday. Thanks guys for your help. Description: Description: cid:image001.gif@01CC2486.B685A050 _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:38 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Alex That motor came with a carter 4027s, there is one on ebay right now from a 66. I can't find any info on the CFM. The Holley that came on the L79 350HP was 585 so I'm sure it wouldn't be any more than that. I found a discussion thread where a guy flow tested them and said they were 582 but take that for what it is worth. Chum Nault _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:15 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Hi guys, Recently bought a 66 327 rpo L30 motor and power glide. Does anyone know what the cfm of the carb was? Thanks Alex image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327
No such animal as a Camaro in 1965. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:45 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 HA 1965 327 4 spd tran. std 275 4 full size/Camaro What about this? _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:39 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Full size1965 Chevrolet as shown in the thread below under Platform (B is full size Chevrolet). Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:08 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 The date code is E 15 5. So that makes it a 65 327. There is no 327 listed for Chevelles in 65 with an HA code. Wonder what it came out of? _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:20 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Yes but you'll notice the only HA Chevelle (A) code is 1969. It could very well be an engine block from a full size Chevrolet (B) though. In any event, it's probably a good engine and no reason not to use it unless you enter in some shows as an original or original restored car and they even check engine codes - which many do not, not even AACA. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Brad Waller Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:34 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 From ChevelleStuff.net, I found more than one HA code, but no IHA codes. Code Year CID HP Trans Platform/Comments HA 1965 327 250 MT B HA 1967-68327 275 MT B HAH 1966 327 275 MT B, Holley HAR 1966 327 275 MT B, Rochester HB 1965 327 300 MT B, HP HB 1966-7 327 275 MT B, A.I.R. HB 1968 327 275 MT B, HDC HA 1969 350 300 MT A, F, X It could be any of the three. You will want to find the casting number to see which block it is, and then see if you can find the casting date. For tips, see http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sblock.php That site has the best casting codes, suffix info, and other engine stuff out there for our cars. Been using it for over ten years. Nasty Z28 has two HA codes: HA 1965 327 4 spd tran. std 275 4 full size/Camaro HA 1969 350 manual trans 300 4 A F X Check the date for the most accurate estimate of what it was. Brad Waller From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:44 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Engine numbers T052IHA, 3858180 Intake 3875954 Heads 3795896 Crank 2680 Guys the only number i cant figure out is the T052IHA, i think from the story i got its a replacement motor. I brought it home saturday. Thanks guys for your help. Description: Description: cid:image001.gif@01CC2486.B685A050 _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:38 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Alex That motor came with a carter 4027s, there is one on ebay right now from a 66. I can't find any info on the CFM. The Holley that came on the L79 350HP was 585 so I'm sure it wouldn't be any more than that. I found a discussion thread where a guy flow tested them and said they were 582 but take that for what it is worth. Chum Nault _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:15 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Hi guys, Recently bought a 66 327 rpo L30 motor and power glide. Does anyone know what the cfm of the carb was? Thanks Alex image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327
HA is a suffix code for a 1969 350/300 manual transmission engine, 0521 indicates May 21 (http://chevellestuff.net/qd/engine/sb03_codes_d_hz.htm) but 3858180 is a 65-66 block is the intake (66 327/275 w/A.I.R. cast iron with Rochester. Heads show to be 64-65 283 and crank as 62-65 327. Looks like a hodgepodge of small-block parts. A replacement motor? I guess if one considers a pieced together engine a replacement, then it would be. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:44 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Engine numbers T052IHA, 3858180 Intake 3875954 Heads 3795896 Crank 2680 Guys the only number i cant figure out is the T052IHA, i think from the story i got its a replacement motor. I brought it home saturday. Thanks guys for your help. _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:38 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Alex That motor came with a carter 4027s, there is one on ebay right now from a 66. I can't find any info on the CFM. The Holley that came on the L79 350HP was 585 so I'm sure it wouldn't be any more than that. I found a discussion thread where a guy flow tested them and said they were 582 but take that for what it is worth. Chum Nault _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:15 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Hi guys, Recently bought a 66 327 rpo L30 motor and power glide. Does anyone know what the cfm of the carb was? Thanks Alex image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327
I think if you look again, it's the number 1. The letter I was used to represent the number 1 on pre 69 engine build date stampings but beginning in 1969 the number 1 was beginning to be used; like these http://chevellestuff.net/1969/engines/index.htm. A suffix code of IHA makes no sense and neither would a data of T052 - not enough numbers to make a mm/dd code. Dealers would not have installed a warranty engine with a date coded and suffix stamped engine. The warranty was only 2 years or 24000 miles for 1966 Chevelles. Sounds more like someone stamped a 1969 engine suffix code (or tried to) on the engine block but without a photo. If you have a photo of the engine pad, could email it to me off list at ad...@chevellestuff.net? Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:47 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Dale, The last 3 letters are IHA not 1. Thats where im getting messed up, the block casting 3858180 indicates a 327 and the intake is what you said. When i looked the heads up it said 283 and 327 and the crank is a 327 crank. The owner had a 283 he was having problems with. So after while the dealer installed a new engine. Thats the story i got. Thanks Alex _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:38 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 HA is a suffix code for a 1969 350/300 manual transmission engine, 0521 indicates May 21 (http://chevellestuff.net/qd/engine/sb03_codes_d_hz.htm) but 3858180 is a 65-66 block is the intake (66 327/275 w/A.I.R. cast iron with Rochester. Heads show to be 64-65 283 and crank as 62-65 327. Looks like a hodgepodge of small-block parts. A replacement motor? I guess if one considers a pieced together engine a replacement, then it would be. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:44 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Engine numbers T052IHA, 3858180 Intake 3875954 Heads 3795896 Crank 2680 Guys the only number i cant figure out is the T052IHA, i think from the story i got its a replacement motor. I brought it home saturday. Thanks guys for your help. _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:38 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Alex That motor came with a carter 4027s, there is one on ebay right now from a 66. I can't find any info on the CFM. The Holley that came on the L79 350HP was 585 so I'm sure it wouldn't be any more than that. I found a discussion thread where a guy flow tested them and said they were 582 but take that for what it is worth. Chum Nault _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:15 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Hi guys, Recently bought a 66 327 rpo L30 motor and power glide. Does anyone know what the cfm of the carb was? Thanks Alex image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] FW: 66 327
I'm not sure the mailing list allows attachments due to the great variety of email clients and the bandwidth it takes to send an attachment to hundreds of recipients. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 7:33 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] FW: 66 327 I tried sending this twice -I will try without the attachment-you will just have to take my word for it _ From: Chum Nault [mailto:c...@jimolsonmotors.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 3:49 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Alex I attached pages from an old GM parts manual that show the suffix HA is a 1965 manual transmission 327 (page32). On page 19 it tells us to use the 66-67 protecto plate identification on page 23 where it shows the T for Tonawanda , the 05 for May and the 21 for 21 day so you have a nice 327 for a manual trans built on the 21st of May 1965. Good Job!! Chum Nault _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:44 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Engine numbers T052IHA, 3858180 Intake 3875954 Heads 3795896 Crank 2680 Guys the only number i cant figure out is the T052IHA, i think from the story i got its a replacement motor. I brought it home saturday. Thanks guys for your help. _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:38 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Alex That motor came with a carter 4027s, there is one on ebay right now from a 66. I can't find any info on the CFM. The Holley that came on the L79 350HP was 585 so I'm sure it wouldn't be any more than that. I found a discussion thread where a guy flow tested them and said they were 582 but take that for what it is worth. Chum Nault _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:15 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Hi guys, Recently bought a 66 327 rpo L30 motor and power glide. Does anyone know what the cfm of the carb was? Thanks Alex image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327
Yes but you'll notice the only HA Chevelle (A) code is 1969. It could very well be an engine block from a full size Chevrolet (B) though. In any event, it's probably a good engine and no reason not to use it unless you enter in some shows as an original or original restored car and they even check engine codes - which many do not, not even AACA. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Brad Waller Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 6:34 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 From ChevelleStuff.net, I found more than one HA code, but no IHA codes. Code Year CID HP Trans Platform/Comments HA 1965 327 250 MT B HA 1967-68327 275 MT B HAH 1966 327 275 MT B, Holley HAR 1966 327 275 MT B, Rochester HB 1965 327 300 MT B, HP HB 1966-7 327 275 MT B, A.I.R. HB 1968 327 275 MT B, HDC HA 1969 350 300 MT A, F, X It could be any of the three. You will want to find the casting number to see which block it is, and then see if you can find the casting date. For tips, see http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sblock.php That site has the best casting codes, suffix info, and other engine stuff out there for our cars. Been using it for over ten years. Nasty Z28 has two HA codes: HA 1965 327 4 spd tran. std 275 4 full size/Camaro HA 1969 350 manual trans 300 4 A F X Check the date for the most accurate estimate of what it was. Brad Waller From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:44 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Engine numbers T052IHA, 3858180 Intake 3875954 Heads 3795896 Crank 2680 Guys the only number i cant figure out is the T052IHA, i think from the story i got its a replacement motor. I brought it home saturday. Thanks guys for your help. Description: cid:image001.gif@01CC2486.B685A050 _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 10:38 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Alex That motor came with a carter 4027s, there is one on ebay right now from a 66. I can't find any info on the CFM. The Holley that came on the L79 350HP was 585 so I'm sure it wouldn't be any more than that. I found a discussion thread where a guy flow tested them and said they were 582 but take that for what it is worth. Chum Nault _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Barnes, Alex Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:15 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] 66 327 Hi guys, Recently bought a 66 327 rpo L30 motor and power glide. Does anyone know what the cfm of the carb was? Thanks Alex image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] Muncie site
You could try http://chevellestuff.net/qd/muncie.htm and see if that helps. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of G Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:59 AM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Muncie site Can someone please direct me once again to the Muncie site. I just got a supposedly M22 1969 Tranny, I would like to verify some #'s off this transmission. I do not think it is a M22, but a M21 Thanks again, Joe
Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 chevelle
Just a couple of changes. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Trooper Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 5:34 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 chevelle There seems to be some confusion about the different plates we all are talking about here so here is a brief description of each to help. The 65-67 Chevelles has the VIN tag on the left front door hinge pillar. 68-72 are on the left dash visible through the windshield. This is the tag that identifies your car with the DMV for licensing, ownership, etc. It is illegal to tamper with or remove this tag. There are several places you can find the hidden VIN's on these cars. Since the frames can be changed, probably the best place would be on the fire wall under the heater blower. The only 1965-1967 model year and plant I know of that stamped a partial VIN behind the heater box on the firewall was Atlanta in 1967. I believe it became common practice for all plants from 1968 on. The tag on the left hand portion of the cowl is the trim tag. This tag gives you body build date, trim codes,Model year and ID, interior style, body color, etc. Most restorers feel this tag is also very important to the car but it will not suffice for a VIN tag with the DMV and it is not illegal to remove. Formal name is Fisher Body Number plate (aka trim tag, cowl tag, etc.) It is illegal to remove/alter/etc. in Oklahoma as of November of 2007 for 1953 through 1977 model year vehicles. See http://chevellestuff.net/misc/oklahoma_trim_tag_law.htm The protect-o-plate is a plate that came with your classic when it was new. It came in a cardboard pamphlet in your glovebox. It was used for warrantee purposes. It is coded for all the options on your car and thus can identify an SS for 69-72 when SS was simply an option. Other Chevelles 65-68 an SS can be identified in the VIN code. The Protect-O-Plate first appeared in 1965, so there would be no such thing for the 1964 model year. Only certain options were coded (not all options) and different years showed different options. Only in 1969 and 1970 can it be used to identify an SS-optioned Chevelle by looking at the original engine code since all 69-70 Chevelle SS-optioned Chevelles came with a performance-oriented 396 or 454 and that engine code is on the POP. When the SS option became more of a dress-up option than a performance one in 1971-72, both 350 engines as well as the 402 engine could be ordered with or without the SS option so the presence of these engine codes is not a way to tell; only the 454 engine in both 1971-72 were available with the SS option exclusively. The build sheets were sheets with all the specific cars options so the guys on the line knew how to build each individual car. They were to be thrown away after they were used but many guys simply stuffed them in the seats, doors, above the glove box or gas tank and anywhere else they could hide them. So if you can't find your build sheet it's because someone else did many years ago and tossed it or the guys on the line that day were doing their job correctly and disposing of your sheets correctly. These sheets have all your options on them and thus can identify a real 69-72 SS. There are other ways to identify an SS Chevelle from 69-72 such as unique paint codes, engines with matching VINs, W in the VIN of the 72's, etc. But the build sheet is the gold standard. Again, an engine with matching partial VIN stamped on them is not a way to tell 1971-1972 SS-optioned Chevelles as noted above. The generally accepted paperwork called a 'buildsheet' was used in Fremont as early as 1964. Other plants didn't begin using them until the 1969 model year. From 1964 (except for Fremont) through 1969, the paperwork used by workstations was BODY BROADCAST COPY and CHASSIS BROADCAST COPY sheets and has almost no information about options. See http://chevellestuff.net/1969/bs/kan/kan.htm for some 1969 examples of these sheets. Hope this clarifies a few things. Tony I didn't see a response to the message below but may have missed it. VIN plates have been around for years, at least as far back as 47 that I know of for Chevrolets and maybe earlier. - Original Message - From: Jim Thompson mailto:jimthompso...@gmail.com To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 chevelle My 65 does not have a plate on the door post. Just the plate on the firewall, I think they came later.
Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 chevelle
Meant to say said, .except as noted above where I stated, .only the 454 engine in both 1971-72 were available with the SS option exclusively. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:40 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 chevelle Again, an engine with matching partial VIN stamped on them is not a way to tell 1971-1972 SS-optioned Chevelles as noted above. Not completely true. A 71 Chevelle with a 454 in which the partial VIN on the block matches that of the car's VIN would verify it as an SS. 72 as well but not needed because the W in the VIN would verify this year. - Original Message - From: Dale mailto:a396...@fidnet.com To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 chevelle Just a couple of changes. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Trooper Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 5:34 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 chevelle There seems to be some confusion about the different plates we all are talking about here so here is a brief description of each to help. The 65-67 Chevelles has the VIN tag on the left front door hinge pillar. 68-72 are on the left dash visible through the windshield. This is the tag that identifies your car with the DMV for licensing, ownership, etc. It is illegal to tamper with or remove this tag. There are several places you can find the hidden VIN's on these cars. Since the frames can be changed, probably the best place would be on the fire wall under the heater blower. The only 1965-1967 model year and plant I know of that stamped a partial VIN behind the heater box on the firewall was Atlanta in 1967. I believe it became common practice for all plants from 1968 on. The tag on the left hand portion of the cowl is the trim tag. This tag gives you body build date, trim codes,Model year and ID, interior style, body color, etc. Most restorers feel this tag is also very important to the car but it will not suffice for a VIN tag with the DMV and it is not illegal to remove. Formal name is Fisher Body Number plate (aka trim tag, cowl tag, etc.) It is illegal to remove/alter/etc. in Oklahoma as of November of 2007 for 1953 through 1977 model year vehicles. See http://chevellestuff.net/misc/oklahoma_trim_tag_law.htm The protect-o-plate is a plate that came with your classic when it was new. It came in a cardboard pamphlet in your glovebox. It was used for warrantee purposes. It is coded for all the options on your car and thus can identify an SS for 69-72 when SS was simply an option. Other Chevelles 65-68 an SS can be identified in the VIN code. The Protect-O-Plate first appeared in 1965, so there would be no such thing for the 1964 model year. Only certain options were coded (not all options) and different years showed different options. Only in 1969 and 1970 can it be used to identify an SS-optioned Chevelle by looking at the original engine code since all 69-70 Chevelle SS-optioned Chevelles came with a performance-oriented 396 or 454 and that engine code is on the POP. When the SS option became more of a dress-up option than a performance one in 1971-72, both 350 engines as well as the 402 engine could be ordered with or without the SS option so the presence of these engine codes is not a way to tell; only the 454 engine in both 1971-72 were available with the SS option exclusively. The build sheets were sheets with all the specific cars options so the guys on the line knew how to build each individual car. They were to be thrown away after they were used but many guys simply stuffed them in the seats, doors, above the glove box or gas tank and anywhere else they could hide them. So if you can't find your build sheet it's because someone else did many years ago and tossed it or the guys on the line that day were doing their job correctly and disposing of your sheets correctly. These sheets have all your options on them and thus can identify a real 69-72 SS. There are other ways to identify an SS Chevelle from 69-72 such as unique paint codes, engines with matching VINs, W in the VIN of the 72's, etc. But the build sheet is the gold standard. Again, an engine with matching partial VIN stamped on them is not a way to tell 1971-1972 SS-optioned Chevelles as noted above. The generally accepted paperwork called a 'buildsheet' was used in Fremont as early as 1964. Other plants didn't begin using them until the 1969 model year. From 1964 (except for Fremont) through 1969, the paperwork used by workstations was BODY BROADCAST COPY and CHASSIS BROADCAST COPY sheets and has almost no information about options. See http://chevellestuff.net/1969/bs/kan/kan.htm for some 1969 examples
Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 chevelle
The numbers of interest would be on the top of the frame rail. Those on the side are the mfg. number and date, the top of the frame rail will have the partial VIN. However, the partial VIN is of no use in determining whether it was born with the SS option or not; a match would only mean the frame is original to the car. But, see http://chevellestuff.net/qd/frames.htm for the locations of previously found partial VINs on the frame. See http://chevellestuff.net/1969/69ss.htm for more on the 1969 SS option. Does either the engine or 4-speed have a partial VIN stamped on them? If they are original to the car and match the car's VIN, that should suffice. Dale
Re: [Chevelle-list] application lookup GM part# 03864680 hood hinge spring
I do find #3864680 hood springs (no leading '0') listed in my Detroit Iron Information Systems parts book. 65 Chevy, 66-67 Chevelle exc. S.S. 68 Chevelle 2nd design, 68 Pass, 69-72 Chevelle exc. Monte Carlo, S.S. Hvy Chevy 3864680 Dale http://www.chevellecd.net/products/detroitironis.htm -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 2:44 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] application lookup GM part# 03864680 hood hinge spring Hi everybody, I have a pair of NOS GM part# 03864680 hood hinge springs and I was hoping to find a place to look up exactly which vehicles they fit. I tried gmpartsdirect but their site did not turn up any info for this part number. Thanks, John Nasta
Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone there?
I wonder if it's just the time of year or this had gone by the wayside since Al sold TC? I wouldn't think the sale would be a factor.?? Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:15 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Anyone there? I just realized that I haven't seen any activity in months. Has it been that slow or is my server filtering the list again? BillL
Re: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth
Honestly I didn't pay as much attention to the Chevelles as I did the others. None really caught my eye and I see a lot of them at the Chevelle-specific shows I go to. It's the hot rods, customs of the 50s, old super stockers, etc. that I don't get to see much of around here that I keyed in on. Meeting up sounds great, haven't seen you in a long time. We generally go down Friday nit and just spend Saturday at the show. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:01 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth I saw the Willys Truck also-the re-paint took it out of the coupes class - but still nice to see an unmolested 41. To me both seemed like a 4/5 scale model of a 40 Ford. I didn't realize that they were compact We think alike when it comes to the MOPAR Super Stockers. The one had its hood perched up on the roof -Just like the good ole days at Islip speedway. I took a pic of the Lancer - Was talking with a young couple whose last name was Lancer -they were fascinated by the name - Once I pointed out the tri-tone paint they were really fascinated, they hadn't noticed. Last thing I didn't mention before, I noticed maybe 4 or 5 National Chevelle Owners Association window decals, but not one from ACES - I might have just missed them but it struck me as a bit odd. Maybe we can meetup in OCT. On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Dale a396...@fidnet.com wrote: I only spent Saturday there but saw a lot of the things you did. LS-type motors are showing up more and more in just about everything - saw a lot of 55/56 Chevys with them. I loved the 41 Willys Americar, there was a pickup that while wasn't as original, it wasn't 'gassed' either. Some of the rat rods are downright scary to think they'd be street legal. Loved the old MoPar Super Stock type cars from the early to mid 60s. Did you catch the tri-color 55 Dodge Lancer? Black, white, and pink. I've taken the ride before and it definitely is an eye-opener and makes you appreciate what these guys do week-in and week-out for 3+ hours. I'll be back there in October myself! Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:45 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth Spent 2 mornings there. Had a great time. Don't know whether I'm inspired to get my elky back on the road or discouraged by the high quality of workmanship on display. I also learned several things: 1- LS type motors will fit in anything. 2-Big (18inch+) wheels DONT belong on classics from the 50's 60's or 70's. 3-If a 57 Chevy has Fuel Injection badges on the fender, it is probably NOT a Rochester unit (see 1 above). 4-Don't throw anything away if it is worn, rusted or generally unusable - The Rat Rod crowd can find a use for virtually anything. It probably is as much work to achieve the correct patina on a rat rod as to achieve a first class paint job on a classic or rod. 5- Many AC Cobra kit car owners insist on listing their vehicles as a 64 or 65and I'm sorry but even as a chevy guy I can't condone an LS motor in a Cobra. 6-I like seeing MOPAR street rods with MOPAR propulsion; and Ford Street rods with a Ford powerplant. I understand that a 350 is cheaperto build, but really. 7-An ORIGINAL unmolested 41 Willys Autocar is a cool and rare car in its own right. 8-An unrestored (needing it) 52 Pontiac All Steel Woodie Wagon with a 389 should NOT be advertised with the tag line Its Only Original Once! 9-Its cool as heck to watch the AutoCross, where an unknown from Kansas dominates the PRO autocrossers. Including Kyle Stacy from Detroit Speed, A Hotchkiss Truck, a Camaro built for Spectre and a Mustang from a Name shop. I don't know how it ended, but at noon on Friday the unknown had a full second lead in a 40 second or so lap. 10-During the October GoodGuys Event, I AM going to take a 150MPH ride with the pseudo-NASCAR concession. 11- It is entirely possible to get overloaded with great cars. After 2 or 3 hours they started looking very similar. Maybe I'm just getting to be a grouchy ole man Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth
I only spent Saturday there but saw a lot of the things you did. LS-type motors are showing up more and more in just about everything - saw a lot of 55/56 Chevys with them. I loved the 41 Willys Americar, there was a pickup that while wasn't as original, it wasn't 'gassed' either. Some of the rat rods are downright scary to think they'd be street legal. Loved the old MoPar Super Stock type cars from the early to mid 60s. Did you catch the tri-color 55 Dodge Lancer? Black, white, and pink. I've taken the ride before and it definitely is an eye-opener and makes you appreciate what these guys do week-in and week-out for 3+ hours. I'll be back there in October myself! Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 8:45 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] GoodGuys Ft Worth Spent 2 mornings there. Had a great time. Don't know whether I'm inspired to get my elky back on the road or discouraged by the high quality of workmanship on display. I also learned several things: 1- LS type motors will fit in anything. 2-Big (18inch+) wheels DONT belong on classics from the 50's 60's or 70's. 3-If a 57 Chevy has Fuel Injection badges on the fender, it is probably NOT a Rochester unit (see 1 above). 4-Don't throw anything away if it is worn, rusted or generally unusable - The Rat Rod crowd can find a use for virtually anything. It probably is as much work to achieve the correct patina on a rat rod as to achieve a first class paint job on a classic or rod. 5- Many AC Cobra kit car owners insist on listing their vehicles as a 64 or 65and I'm sorry but even as a chevy guy I can't condone an LS motor in a Cobra. 6-I like seeing MOPAR street rods with MOPAR propulsion; and Ford Street rods with a Ford powerplant. I understand that a 350 is cheaperto build, but really. 7-An ORIGINAL unmolested 41 Willys Autocar is a cool and rare car in its own right. 8-An unrestored (needing it) 52 Pontiac All Steel Woodie Wagon with a 389 should NOT be advertised with the tag line Its Only Original Once! 9-Its cool as heck to watch the AutoCross, where an unknown from Kansas dominates the PRO autocrossers. Including Kyle Stacy from Detroit Speed, A Hotchkiss Truck, a Camaro built for Spectre and a Mustang from a Name shop. I don't know how it ended, but at noon on Friday the unknown had a full second lead in a 40 second or so lap. 10-During the October GoodGuys Event, I AM going to take a 150MPH ride with the pseudo-NASCAR concession. 11- It is entirely possible to get overloaded with great cars. After 2 or 3 hours they started looking very similar. Maybe I'm just getting to be a grouchy ole man Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino image001.gif
Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:Test E-mail
Rick, I would imagine he's talking Hughes satellite, it's also offered through DirecTV and maybe even Dish, don't know. Good I suppose if your area doesn't have any cable service or access to DSL. Download times may be acceptable (like DSL) but uploads are really slow. I have cable here in Lawton for Internet, TV and now phone. Not as fast as others (10MB down, 1MB up) but it's the fastest available here and since I do a lot of uploading for my web sites, DSL or satellite was never an option for me. You say you want to get TV from the Internet.how are you connecting to the Internet now if not by DSL, cable, or satellite? I have both satellite and cable. Satellite primarily for TV but high winds and storms here due knock it out occasionally and cable for Internet, phone, and those times when the satellite is knocked out. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:Test E-mail larry - I hope you noticed my wink in the original post. No doubt DSL is a huge improvement. I have no idea who Hughes is, but I believe I'm happy that they don't serve this area.My wife is trying to convince me to go with cable internet (Suddenlink).I'm not so sure, I'm thinking that I'd rather cancel cable all together and get our TV 100% from the internet. Anyone done that yet? On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:49 AM, ROBERT HILLER bobsli...@dishmail.net wrote: I know the feeling, we have WildBlue(Dish Network) satellite Internet and it is up to 1MB at times but generally slower! On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Tony chevy...@hughes.net wrote: You got that right. And I'll bet you it will be faster. I'm still a prisoner of Hughes. No other broadband where I live. - Original Message - From: Larry Williams mailto:larrydwilliams1...@att.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:Test E-mail The only special thing about the ATT DSL is that is it 3X cheaper than I was paying Hughes. _ From: Rick Schaefer ric...@gmail.com To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 9:11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:Test E-mail Well, aren't YOU special Error! Filename not specified. On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Larry Williams larrydwilliams1...@att.net wrote: Just got DSL and a new address. Larry -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel problem
I just recently changed the fuel pump on my 67 327 and tried the bolt trick. Even using a longer bolt that I could physically feel in the push rod hole, the bolt never contacted the push rod; the rod ran underneath the bolt. Wound up having to remove the plate, grease up the rod with some bearing grease to help keep it against the camshaft. I remember it working in the past but didn’t on this engine. ??? Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of z16chevelle...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 3:19 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel problem Every hard starting SB Chevy I ever owned, had either a weak or bad fuel pump which made it hard to start. Yes pull the short bolt and stick longer bolt which will hold the fuel pump push rod up. Larry - Original Message - From: harkema...@aol.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:17:13 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel problem This was kind of on the line I was thinking, when the fuel pressure is measured- I quickly get 6 psi but it drops right off when I stop cranking. I also had the fuel line problem as discussed but replacing that did not do much good, neither did the carb overhaul. are there any tricks out there for replacing the fuel pump? don;t some blocks have a tapped hole in the front where you can put a bolt and bottom out against the push rod (holding it in place) thanks for all the advice!!! Harlan In a message dated 11/29/2010 8:42:57 PM Central Standard Time, a396...@fidnet.com writes: I just went through that with my 327 and Edelbrock carb. The fuel pump diaphragm had a small puncture that released the pressure between the pump and carb. Even the clear fuel filter I use was being drained dry. Dale
Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel problem
I don’t know. It was fairly long and I remember running it down until the nose butted against the inside wall of the hole and I could feel the threads. Push rod still slipped right by it. ? Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of z16chevelle...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:26 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel problem Dale: Maybe the bolt was not long enough. I cant remeber the length but I have always just grabbed a longer bolt and finger tightened it into the side of the bolt' Larry
Re: [Chevelle-list] fuel problem
I just went through that with my 327 and Edelbrock carb. The fuel pump diaphragm had a small puncture that released the pressure between the pump and carb. Even the clear fuel filter I use was being drained dry. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of harkema...@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:22 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] fuel problem what could be the possible cause on a 350 chev engine after sitting over night the car will not start, it cranks and cranks and i can pump the heck out of it to no avail, i need to pour a small amount of fuel down the carb, than it will start and run just fine. if it sits a few hours it will start fine on its own. has to be like 8 or more hours. thanks Harlan
Re: [Chevelle-list] BBC
Casting date and engine stamp might help if someone is looking specifically for a period correct engine block. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of n30pac...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 10:51 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] BBC selling what was told is a 1967 396 motor block cast# 3902406 In a message dated 11/16/2010 5:59:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, blazerma...@aol.com writes: Can't help without knowing what you're selling. -Original Message- From: N30packer n30pac...@aol.com To: Chevelle-list Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sun, Nov 14, 2010 12:30 pm Subject: [Chevelle-list] BBC SELLING BBC MOTOR CAST # 3902406 COMLPETE MOTOR,HAS ALUM. INTAKE , NO CARB OR PULLYS. ANY ONE INTERESTED REPLY TO n30pac...@aol.com OR CALL. 732-407-1199 ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER BB SB ITEMS. THANKS.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Rebuild 700R4 Tranny Near Dallas area?
I'm sure there are a lot of good shops in the DFW area. I had Phoenix Transmissions in Weatherford, TX. do a 4-speed to 700R4 swap and workmanship was top notch. http://www.phoenixtrans.com/ Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of tabius barrett Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:56 PM To: chevelle list Subject: [Chevelle-list] Rebuild 700R4 Tranny Near Dallas area? Does anyone have any recommendations on a REPUTABLE place where I can get a 700R4 tranny rebuilt near the Dallas/Fort worth area? I have one out of my 89 Suburban that i want to put in my 70 Chevelle. Thanks, Tabius _
Re: [Chevelle-list] Original or clone???
Looks pretty close, doesn't it? I've seen the car on eBay several times but never got past the alligator theme. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 12:53 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Original or clone??? Familiar http://www.classicmotorcarauctions.com/piston10/product.php?id=4422 to anyone?-- Dale? Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] engine Identification
1957 did indeed still use a 265 engine but these were coded C, CD and CE. Optional external oil filters were offered in 1955 since there was not an integral oil filter with the engine. See http://stovebolt.com/techtips/engines/oil%20filters/index.html about half way down the page under 1955-1958. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of z16chevelle...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 5:28 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] engine Identification Interesting but I can remember several low budget 57 with 265s also. I had tons of Tri 5 cars when I was a kid . Also saw many 57 with 55-56 distributors which did not have the window to adjust the points. I think they used parts until they ran out. Larry - Original Message - From: Dale a396...@fidnet.com To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:43:09 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] engine Identification Brad may be on to it. The 55 56 Chevy 265 and the 57 283 used the single letter F in the suffix code. The same Corvette used FG for the Powerglide. The oil fill tube you mention was used up through 1968 so that's not an issue. The 55 did not have an integral oil filter, i.e., no canister on the driver side rear of the block. There was an optional oil filter system but it was an add-on the sat on top of the engine. Looking into more resources the early engine codes were as yours appears. 0552582 is the sequence number of the engine (although my source says this should only be 6 digits F is for Flint engine plant 56 is the model year F is the engine code and in 1956 it's a 170hp Powerglide passenger. Again, Corvette used a 2-letter code and did not use a 2-bbl intake. I'd really be interested in seeing a readable photo of it. Dale da...@chevellestuff.com -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of bdo_ch...@att.net Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:40 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] engine Identification --- On Thu, 9/30/10, harkema...@aol.com harkema...@aol.com wrote: checked on the number 0552582F56F is the number stamped ahead of the rt cyl head, on the block, there are no spaces, the engine is in a 55 chevy, and is a small block, the valve covers have chevrolet written out on them (the factory type) it is a 2 BBL, and has the oil filler pipe that sticks up from the manifold. IIRC the single-letter suffix was in use up until the early 1960s. Does the engine have an oil filter? According to nastyz28.com F could be a 1955 265 or 1957 283 and the early 265s didn't come with one. I don't recognize the format of the rest of the number. Brad
Re: [Chevelle-list] engine Identification
Brad may be on to it. The 55 56 Chevy 265 and the 57 283 used the single letter F in the suffix code. The same Corvette used FG for the Powerglide. The oil fill tube you mention was used up through 1968 so that's not an issue. The 55 did not have an integral oil filter, i.e., no canister on the driver side rear of the block. There was an optional oil filter system but it was an add-on the sat on top of the engine. Looking into more resources the early engine codes were as yours appears. 0552582 is the sequence number of the engine (although my source says this should only be 6 digits F is for Flint engine plant 56 is the model year F is the engine code and in 1956 it's a 170hp Powerglide passenger. Again, Corvette used a 2-letter code and did not use a 2-bbl intake. I'd really be interested in seeing a readable photo of it. Dale da...@chevellestuff.com -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of bdo_ch...@att.net Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:40 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] engine Identification --- On Thu, 9/30/10, harkema...@aol.com harkema...@aol.com wrote: checked on the number 0552582F56F is the number stamped ahead of the rt cyl head, on the block, there are no spaces, the engine is in a 55 chevy, and is a small block, the valve covers have chevrolet written out on them (the factory type) it is a 2 BBL, and has the oil filler pipe that sticks up from the manifold. IIRC the single-letter suffix was in use up until the early 1960s. Does the engine have an oil filter? According to nastyz28.com F could be a 1955 265 or 1957 283 and the early 265s didn't come with one. I don't recognize the format of the rest of the number. Brad
Re: [Chevelle-list] motor i.d. please
Are these cast or stamped? Are they all one contiguous character set? Where are they located? Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of harkema...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:35 AM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] motor i.d. please Hi wondering if any one had any info on this engine, or/and if its anything special 0552582F56F thanks! Harlan
Re: [Chevelle-list] Quick time Electric Cutouts
I haven't really heard good or bad info but you might take a look at those made by DMH - http://www.dmhperformance.com/. These have slotted flanges that allow the installation to be rotated a bit for installation clearance. Dale From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of bill Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:55 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Quick time Electric Cutouts - Original Message - From: Bob n Cheri mailto:robertb...@msn.com To: chevelle-list mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Quick time Electric Cutouts Does or has anyone used the Quick Time Electric cutouts instead of the caps on on your exhaust systems? I'm thinking about a set but that's a lot of bucks if they don't last. Their 90 day warranty isn't too confidence inspiring either. I guess I want to know how well they fit. fit is good Do they leak at the butterflies. yes but just a bit Have you run into clearance problems ( will be going on a 71 SS 454 stock ride height with long tube headers and x pipe. you may need to move the floor depending on where they are located If you had issues with the company. How long did they last or are they still working. first set about 1 week the screws that hold the solinoid to the butterfly backed out and ripped out the wiring summit replaced them i took the new ones apart before i installed them and put locktight on all there screws Do any of you use the controller that can be purchased additionally. came with it I know 3 wing nuts and the caps come off but I was just looking at this as an option. Thanks, Bob Belz 71 SS 454
Re: [Chevelle-list] Turbo 400 Ratios
First is 2.48, 2nd is 1.48 and drive is 1:1. Oops, Tom beat me to it. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Larry Williams Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:18 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Turbo 400 Ratios Does anyone have any info on the gear ratios for the Turbo 400. Larry
Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)
I didn't follow the link just because I don't recognize the sender. What is it? Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of dennis.mcgil...@mcgilliscompany.com Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:40 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Let's hope it doesn't cause a problem for all of us who followed the link. Dennis - Original Message - From: z16chevelle...@comcast.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Lee has a problem - Original Message - From: Lee Hester chevelle...@hotmail.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, June 4, 2010 2:30:06 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) http://cojopuc.angelfire.com/ _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28 326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4
Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)
Maybe everyone should just forward all their spam to the original sender, chevelle...@hotmail.com Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of radonman Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:18 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) SPAM-ITY SPAM If you followed the link I hope your firewall/antivirus software was up and running and fully updated. That site tries to load malware. Fun fun. On 6/4/2010 10:15 AM, Dale wrote: I didn't follow the link just because I don't recognize the sender. What is it? Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of dennis.mcgil...@mcgilliscompany.com Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:40 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Let's hope it doesn't cause a problem for all of us who followed the link. Dennis - Original Message - From: z16chevelle...@comcast.net To: The mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Lee has a problem - Original Message - From: Lee Hester chevelle...@hotmail.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, June 4, 2010 2:30:06 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) http://cojopuc.angelfire.com/ _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28 326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4
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Darrell, I sent you a little longer response than this one to the list but if it's the program I'm thinking of that was sold through Team Chevelle, I haven't seen it available anywhere, I don't think the programmer supports it anymore, and it won't install on a 64-bit OS. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of tinindia...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:57 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) I need a little help, a couple of years ago I purchased a Chevelle program that had all the stats for the Chevelle. Motor numbers, rear gears transmissions, just about everything needed to research the Chevelle. I have gotten a new computer that will not work with the old program, 32 bit versus 64 bit. Does any one know where I can get find this, web site, as I forgot where I found it. Thanks Darrell 65 SS 327, 4 sp.
Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)
It could be that no vendors are advertising it or even offering it; maybe because Windows Virtual PC no longer requires a hardware enabled CPU to run in XP or 32-bit mode as Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 did - apparently two different products. 64-bit is pretty much becoming the standard for new PCs and CPUs. I bought Windows 7 Pro a few months ago and it comes with both 32- and 64-bit DVDs. I installed the 64-bit version initially. That's when I discovered you needed a CPU with hardware virtualization to run 32-bit programs with Virtual PC 2007. So, I reloaded the drive with the 32-bit version so I could run my old software. Now that Windows Virtual PC is not suppose to be hardware dependant I may reinstall the 64-bit version and test it. On the MS website they still show 32- and 64-bit versions of Windows Home Premium for sale. In either case I'm sure you need the Pro version to run Windows Virtual PC as I just tried to download the software to my laptop (with 64-bit home version) and got a dialog box saying I needed the Pro version to run it. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of tinindia...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 3:57 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) I have gone from 32 bit to 64 bit, windows 7, I was told you couldn't get the 32 any more, Darrell In a message dated 6/3/2010 3:37:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hol...@cox.net writes: On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 03:56:59PM -0400, tinindia...@aol.com wrote: I need a little help, a couple of years ago I purchased a Chevelle program that had all the stats for the Chevelle. Motor numbers, rear gears transmissions, just about everything needed to research the Chevelle. I have gotten a new computer that will not work with the old program, 32 bit versus 64 bit. Does any one know where I can get find this, web site, as I forgot where I found it. I assume you've gone from a 64 bit OS to a 32 bit and that the program that won't run is a 64 bit because the other way around would work. If your computer has a 64 bit CPU, as most new ones do, you could install Wndows 64 bit (from your address I assume your running Windows). -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer
Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject)
If you want the OEM paint numbers, Lucite is #4850L, R-M is #A-1920, and Ditzler is #13364. These are OEM lacquer which may be hard to find but I'm sure a competent paint shop could cross them to a modern base/clear if that's what you prefer. http://chevellestuff.com/1967/paint.htm Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Bumgarner Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:26 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Thanks, Donnie I love this club. Eddie Bumgarner 66ss conv. _ From: donnie...@aol.com donnie...@aol.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 11:20:23 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] (no subject) Looks like FF CODE COLOUR TRADENAME AA Black Tuxedo Black CC White Ermine White DD Med.BlueNantucket Blue EE Dark Blue Deepwater Blue FF Bright Blue Marina Blue GG GoldGranada Gold HH Medium GreenMountain Green KK Med. Turquoise Emerald Turquoise LL Dark Turquoise Tahoe Turquoise MM PlumRoyal Plum NN Maroon Madeira Maroon RR Red Bolero Red SS FawnSierra Fawn TT Cream Capri Cream YY Yellow Butternut Yellow In a message dated 5/17/2010 11:11:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, chevy_eddie1...@yahoo.com writes: Does anyone know the factory paint code for 1967 marina blue off hand? thanks in advance. Eddie Eddie Bumgarner 66ss conv.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Spray-on bedliner
Looks good, Mitch. Mind if I ask the price? We have something similar here called GatorHyde and pricing for a Mid Size (such as Ranger, Colorado, etc) is $369 for a short bed under the rail which I would guess would be about the same size as an El Camino - full size is $399. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Mitch Barrie Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:51 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Spray-on bedliner Line-X of Anaheim completed the spray-on bedliner today and the results are outstanding. The truck beds never looked that good even from the factory, and after over 40 years of use mine was pretty beat up. The spray-on bedliner considerably improved the appearance and will of course make the truck more practical. http://www.flickr.com/photos/simonov/4619205173/ Mitch
Re: [Chevelle-list] General Machine Shop Question
Back in the day, machine shops I used for this kind of stuff was generally a well equipped parts store with a machine shop in the rear. Almost everyone got dealer pricing on parts anyway but if a person wanted to bring their own parts in to be installed it usually meant no warranty. Independent machine shops today generally rely (I would gather) on not only the labor but the markup on the parts as well. Dale - Original Message - From: Rick mailto:ric...@gmail.com Schaefer To: The Chevelle Mailing List mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] General Machine Shop Question I need to replace the axle bearings on the rear of my Tacoma. Gonna require a Machine shop to do it. In general, will they expect me to provide bearings, or will they want to order their own? Local shops are already closed (can't ask them what they prefer) and if I need to order a set of bearings I'd like to do it tonite or tomorrow so I can recieve them by monday. Thanx. -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires for my 67
Wouldn't a 70 series tire give a narrower tread footprint than a 65 series tire for a given size? A comparable 215/65R15 and 215/70R15 BF Goodrich Radial T/A shows a 7.0-inch tread width for the 65 series and 6.4-inch read width for the 70 series. Technically the blanket statement that *any* tire size change will affect your speedometer reading is correct but as long as you keep the overall diameter within .1 or .2 of the original, you shouldn't notice a difference. Even with the 205/65R15 your speedometer will only read 0.1% too fast. At a real 65mph *real* speed your speedometer will read 65.65. A taller 205/70R15 is .8 taller and will make your speedometer 3.1% too slow; a 65mph reading on your speedometer would really be 67mph. I've owned a lot of 67 Chevelles and if you can read their sweep speedometers within 2mph, you're doing pretty good! :*) You might check my web page at http://chevellestuff.com/tools/tire_calc.htm. Just plug in the 195/75R14 in the Stock tire size and play with the New tire size. It'll compare Sidewall, Radius, Diameter, Circumference, and Revs per mile for each size and report how slow or fast your speedometer will read as a percentage. One should be aware that 'calculations' don't always reflect the real world and tire manufacturer's differ a bit and many tire sizes just aren't readily available. Looking at the same BF Goodrich Radial T/A chart doesn't list a 205/65R15 size but does list a 225/60R15 which is .1-inch taller and would make your speedometer read 0.4% too slow. Play with the calculator then find your favorite tire mfg and see what they offer. Dale http://chevellestuff.com -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of dar...@hopeandcompany.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:29 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires for my 67 I agree with your tire size selection, try to go with a 70 series size tire to widen the stance a little bit. Any tire size change will effect your speedo. You will need to change driven/drive gears once you select your tires. Darren (also known as 4-door Chevelle on all the car forums). Stephan Bourassa wrote: I have a 67 Chevelle 4 door 300 Deluxe. It has P195/75R14 tires on it now with stock wheels. I want to put 7x15 rally wheels on it. This car does not have power steering, so I was wondering what you all recommend for tire size that will look nice but still steers ok and does not mess up my speedo. THX
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires for my 67
No - Circumfrence was the designer of the knights' round table or was the Sir Cumfrence? Circumference is the boundary line of a circle. Sorry, couldn't pass it up. :*) Dale _ Did I spell circumfrence correctly???
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires for my 67
P195/75R14 and P205/65/R15 have almost identical circumferences, 80.2 vs. 80.1, not enough to bother your speedo. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Stephan Bourassa Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 6:06 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Tires for my 67 I have a 67 Chevelle 4 door 300 Deluxe. It has P195/75R14 tires on it now with stock wheels. I want to put 7x15 rally wheels on it. This car does not have power steering, so I was wondering what you all recommend for tire size that will look nice but still steers ok and does not mess up my speedo. THX
Re: [Chevelle-list] Andre aka Tigerutt from Italy
The last email address I had for him if from some correspondence in 2005. I Bcc'd that email address to this reply. If it's still good hopefully he'll reply to your request. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of z16chevelle...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 11:00 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Andre aka Tigerutt from Italy Hey Guys: Anyone have a current email address for Andre aka Tigergutt? I have looked everywhere and can't seem to find one. Does anyone know if he is still living in Italy ? Reason I ask is I'm going to be there May 8-may 23 and told him if I ever made it there we would meet up for a beer or two. Hopefully if he is still living there I can contact him before next weekend. Thanks, Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] Andre aka Tigerutt from Italy
That was quick. Email came back as undeliverable. Sorry. Found another different email from 2001. I'll give it a try. Probably not good but worth a shot before heading off to Italy. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of z16chevelle...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 11:00 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Andre aka Tigerutt from Italy Hey Guys: Anyone have a current email address for Andre aka Tigergutt? I have looked everywhere and can't seem to find one. Does anyone know if he is still living in Italy ? Reason I ask is I'm going to be there May 8-may 23 and told him if I ever made it there we would meet up for a beer or two. Hopefully if he is still living there I can contact him before next weekend. Thanks, Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] radiator
I don't think any L79 came with A/C so that's not a problem. Check this site to see if you can pick up details. http://www.macswebs.com/richl79/65L79/index.html Rich may even be around and could help. Dale ChevelleStuff.com -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chum Nault Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 9:16 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] radiator I have a radiator problem that I hope someone has an answer for. I am restoring a 65 L79 with a manual transmission and no a/c. I got this car in pieces so I do not have the original radiator or fan shroud. I ordered a radiator #604644-1 and a fan shroud #605623 from Ecklers. The radiator I received is perfect except there is no flange on the engine side of it to bolt the fan shroud to. I can't find any pictures of a non A/C L79 so I don't know exactly how it correctly mounts. I called Ecklers and they confirmed that I have the correct radiator for this car and I can easily fabricate some brackets but I want to put this car together as correct as possible. Any suggestions? Thanks Chum Nault
Re: [Chevelle-list] I need advice
Depends on where you are as to what shop I'd recommend for a 700R4 - or any transmission. I've heard good things about Phoenix Transmission in Weatherford, TX. and had them install one in my old 67 SS396. Their high horsepower unit (up to 450hp is just under $1800 - http://www.phoenixtrans.com/html/gmtrans.html. Naturally if you're nowhere close by Texas, I'm sure there are other shops just as capable. There are a lot of aftermarket disc brake companies as well and most are pretty good. Building a high horsepower engine, you shouldn't skimp on brakes. Expect a good disc brake setup to run anywhere from $700 to $1500 depending on company. Don't settle for some $395 eBay special. Baer is on the higher end but have excellent products. MP Brakes (mpbrakes.com), Classic Performance (classicperform.com), Inline Tube (inlinetube.com), and I'm sure there are more offer basic kits from around $700 up or a bit more if you want power disc. Your tire size will have some effect on the rear end gear you might want to choose. A page at my site, http://chevellestuff.com/tools/rpm_calculator.htm, will let you play around with tire sizes and rear end ratios based on your transmission selection. Transmission gear ratios are shown for the most popular GM transmissions; just plug in your rear tire size (such as 235x60x15), a rear axle ratio (like 3.55), a highway speed (like 75mph) and it'll calculate your RPM. Be aware there will some slippage with an automatic so numbers won't be exact but they'll be relative regardless of ratio, tire size, etc. selected. Taking my car for example, TH350, 3.36 rear end, 235x60x15 tires and at 75mph it calculates to 3245 rpm where my tach shows about 3500. Changing to a 700R4 (and nothing else) with the overdrive ratio the rpms drop calculates to 2270 at 75mph. I could run as low as a 4.56 gear and still only be turning 3100 at 75mph with the o/d. Dale Admin - ChevelleStuff.com/forums _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Russ Miesner Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:08 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] I need advice Hello everyone, I am a reading person on the list and not so much of a contributer but I would like your opinions. I have a 65 Chevelle and it currently has a 350 with a powerglide. Everything is getting tired. I want to overhaul and stroke the engine by a local engine builder. Plans are to do the rebuild this summer because he builds alot of racing engines and winter is his busy time. He said it will have between 425 to 450 horsepower. I want to put in a 700R4 transmission for better highway cruising. I have looked at many different transmission companies. Has anyone ever used Monster transmission? They seem to have decent prices and kits to complete the conversion. I would also like to upgrade to front disc brakes. Brakes really confuse me. I see a really big range of prices. I do not need the high end brakes just better than drums can offer. I am also thinking about a March serpentine belt system. Of course, next comes the rear end rebuild with a posi-unit. Any suggestions on gear ratio? Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated, Russ _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. Sign up now. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2
Re: [Chevelle-list] I need advice
I ran a 700R-4 behind my BBC with 3.07 gears and at it ran right at 2000 RPMs at 70-75 all day long. It made it nice cruising from southern Oklahoma to KC, Tulsa, Ft. Worth and even Nashville a coupe of times with it. I forget the exact tire size but if I remember correctly they were something like 245x55x17 - about 27.5 inches tall. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Russ Miesner Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:18 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] I need advice I am located about 80 miles from St. Louis, Missouri. Dale, I have been on your website and have played with the calculator. I think a 3.42 put me at 2200 RPM's at 70 MPH. I have P255-60-15 tires. Is this too low of RPM's with the overdrive? I do not intend to do any drag racing just want it to be a nice cruiser. Our kids live in St. Louis so I would love to cruise up the interstate to visit them in the Chevelle. (Guess I kinda gave my age away) I don't think it could get much better than that! Thanks for all your help so far and hope to hear more good advice, Russ _ From: a396...@fidnet.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:52:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] I need advice Depends on where you are as to what shop I'd recommend for a 700R4 - or any transmission. I've heard good things about Phoenix Transmission in Weatherford, TX. and had them install one in my old 67 SS396. Their high horsepower unit (up to 450hp is just under $1800 - http://www.phoenixtrans.com/html/gmtrans.html. Naturally if you're nowhere close by Texas, I'm sure there are other shops just as capable. There are a lot of aftermarket disc brake companies as well and most are pretty good. Building a high horsepower engine, you shouldn't skimp on brakes. Expect a good disc brake setup to run anywhere from $700 to $1500 depending on company. Don't settle for some $395 eBay special. Baer is on the higher end but have excellent products. MP Brakes (mpbrakes.com), Classic Performance (classicperform.com), Inline Tube (inlinetube.com), and I'm sure there are more offer basic kits from around $700 up or a bit more if you want power disc. Your tire size will have some effect on the rear end gear you might want to choose. A page at my site, http://chevellestuff.com/tools/rpm_calculator.htm, will let you play around with tire sizes and rear end ratios based on your transmission selection. Transmission gear ratios are shown for the most popular GM transmissions; just plug in your rear tire size (such as 235x60x15), a rear axle ratio (like 3.55), a highway speed (like 75mph) and it'll calculate your RPM. Be aware there will some slippage with an automatic so numbers won't be exact but they'll be relative regardless of ratio, tire size, etc. selected. Taking my car for example, TH350, 3.36 rear end, 235x60x15 tires and at 75mph it calculates to 3245 rpm where my tach shows about 3500. Changing to a 700R4 (and nothing else) with the overdrive ratio the rpms drop calculates to 2270 at 75mph. I could run as low as a 4.56 gear and still only be turning 3100 at 75mph with the o/d. Dale Admin - ChevelleStuff.com/forums _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Russ Miesner Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:08 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] I need advice Hello everyone, I am a reading person on the list and not so much of a contributer but I would like your opinions. I have a 65 Chevelle and it currently has a 350 with a powerglide. Everything is getting tired. I want to overhaul and stroke the engine by a local engine builder. Plans are to do the rebuild this summer because he builds alot of racing engines and winter is his busy time. He said it will have between 425 to 450 horsepower. I want to put in a 700R4 transmission for better highway cruising. I have looked at many different transmission companies. Has anyone ever used Monster transmission? They seem to have decent prices and kits to complete the conversion. I would also like to upgrade to front disc brakes. Brakes really confuse me. I see a really big range of prices. I do not need the high end brakes just better than drums can offer. I am also thinking about a March serpentine belt system. Of course, next comes the rear end rebuild with a posi-unit. Any suggestions on gear ratio? Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated, Russ _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. Sign http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON: WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 up now. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/ now.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Yet Another Motor Mount Question
You leave a lot of questions unanswered. What size engine and what type of transmission from the 70 Chevelle? Does the 64 have a V8 or L6 in it now? What specific frame mounts from Ground Up are you referring to? Lots of unknown variables here... Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of dhoesc...@granitecityperformance.com Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:50 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] Yet Another Motor Mount Question I have an engine and transmission from a 1970 Chevelle that I would like to put into a 1964 Chevelle. I have the original motor frame mounts from the 1970 too. I was looking on Ground Up for the frame mounts for the 1964 and see a conversion kit. Has anyone used this conversion kit? Or could I use the 1970 frame mounts - without having to drill new holes? Suggestions...???
Re: [Chevelle-list] New wiring question
For which car? Dale Admin - ChevelleStuff.com/forums _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Josh Campbell Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 4:38 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] New wiring question Ok I'm finally annoyed enough that I am going to ask questions. Does anyone know a link that I can get a factory wiring diagram or can someone e-mail me a copy? I'm having a few issues with my car getting ready to button down all my wiring and its doing some goofy things. like not getting any power anywhere, and yes I've checked all my fuses and such I'm thinking a ground that I'm missing. I would also like to have a factory diagram for the fact my car was originally an A/C car and since it was all gone when I got it, its going to stay that way!! Anyway any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Josh Campbell 66 SS 396 (Black on the rotisserie, 1st car never part with it) 66 SS 396 (Red got it on a trade I only wanted the steering wheel) 71 Malibu (Since I can't sell it in the shape its in I'm making it my daily driver, although still FOR SALE) You should never have a battle of wits with morons ... they'll just drag you down to their level beat you with experience.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Steering linkage parts
Agree. No need to go to a specialty aftermarket supplier like Year One. DaleM Admin - http://ChevelleStuff.com/forums _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Tom Rightler Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:59 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Steering linkage parts X2. I always use Dana/Spicer or Moog/TRW. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor http://www.mdchevelleclub.com -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 1:01 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Steering linkage parts I'd save my money use the NAPA sourced parts.Dana is usually a high quality product. Also MOOG TRW. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Tom Tomlinson t...@eagleshore.com wrote: I would like to replace the tie-rod ends and center link on my '71 Malibu. It's not a performance machine or a concurs project, just an occasional driver. Are the NAPA parts ok quality (made by Dana Corp)? Are they any different from the Year One parts? Tom Tomlinson -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] New forum sites
http://chevelleforum.net/ is the other one besides mine at http://chevellestuff.com/forums that I can think of offhand. Haven't heard of another. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:22 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] New forum sites I can't remember the url for the other new Chevelle forum site besides Dale's. Any help would be appreciated. BillL
Re: [Chevelle-list] Super Chevy Chevelle magazine
I'll put in my acceptance. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dan Rachlin Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 8:36 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Super Chevy Chevelle magazine I have a copy of the Super Chevy Chevelle magazine dated: Winter 2004. It has a red with white flames 67 on the cover. I found it in a closet. If anyone wants it, I can mail it to you. If not, I will add it to my pile of car mags for the troops. I know these cause a big stir for us Chevelle guys, so I didn't know if anyone was in it or just wanted it for their collection. Dan Oh yea, Happy new year!
Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle magazine
I usually find them at Wal-Mart. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Eddie Bumgarner Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:31 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle magazine Hi, just wondering were i can get a magazine? Eddie Bumgarner 66ss conv.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Win A GM Motor - NOT!
Can you clue us in? Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:49 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Win A GM Motor - NOT! Saw this at TC. Don't bite: http://www.chevelles.com/forums/announcement.php?f=23 -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] Win A GM Motor - NOT!
Looks like the trojan horse mentioned is the second message about one's mailbox, not the ad from racingjunk...? If you go to racingjunk.com, they have the same promotion and link. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:46 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Win A GM Motor - NOT! Trojan horse email that appears to come from Team Chevelle. BillL At 11:04 PM 11/20/2009, you wrote: Can you clue us in? Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [ mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:49 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Win A GM Motor - NOT! Saw this at TC. Don't bite: http://www.chevelles.com/forums/announcement.php?f=23 -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] Car Brochures----Great Stuff!!
Thanks for sharing. Shame the only brochure they link to 68 Chevelles is a 69. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradley Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:00 AM To: chevelle-list: chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Car BrochuresGreat Stuff!! WAY COOL! Car BrochuresGreat Stuff!! check it out thanks to Bob Howard http://www.lov2xlr8.no/broch1.html -- Bill Bradley http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/ 67 Chevelle Malibu 305/700R4 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/1649723 71 Triumph Spitfire http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2506950 82 Kawasaki KZ305CSR
Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question
I did some Google searching and found several sites that pretty much debunk it; of course getnitrogen.org is all for it. I like this guy's take on it - http://ahotcupofjoe.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/nitrogen-filled-tires-a-scam/ Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of richard sierra Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:25 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] A different Type of Question I just purchased a new GMC vehicle and the dealer offered the following new package called Nitro Fill'. The claim is that nitrogen is better than compressed air in a tire. They claim that nitrogen is a dry gas and is free of moisture. It doesn't deteriorate the rubber and it is lss susceptible to air loss with temperature changes. I'd be interested to hear what the group thinks about this. Thanks Rich - 70 SS Coupe _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT _MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
Re: [Chevelle-list] Engine / water pump dates
Water pumps were installed before the engine was shipped but after the build date was stamped. Conceivable? Yes. Probable? No. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of 66chevelless...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:54 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Engine / water pump dates OK I know the rule of thumb that engine components could be dated up to 3 months prior to engine build date. I am looking for a date correct water pump. My stamped engine assembly date is 5/18. I've located a water pump dated 5/19/66. Were the water pumps put on at the time of engine assembly or a later date? Conceivable that a 5/18 assembled engine could have a 5/19 water pump on it? Thanks, -Krister
Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash
Neither here nor there on the video but Is There A Reason You Feel The Need To Capitalize Every Word? Makes for difficult reading. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:00 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash You Do The Research.. How Many Are Thrown From Vehicles Today VS. Yesteryear!! The Doors Today Are Glued On The Latches Give Way See How Many At Totally Trown Fron The Car Today Vs In The Early Years.. I KNOW What I Am Talking About I Have Worked On Cars For 50 Years.. But Bottom Line Is The Video In Question And The 59 Was Not Bolted Together To Give Everybody The Idea That They Are Better, Just Another Cash For Clunkers Video. Trade Off The Old Buy The New.. Kevin... Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler Grandpa To Many LOL --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 4:23 PM You're an idiot, sorry, but that's just the truth. Old cars, old engineering. They aren't deisgned to be energy absorbing..new cars are. Early Iron...best route..hardly. How many people were killed in wrecks back then compared to nowdo some research before you go shooting off what you OPINION is vs. what the TRUTH is. - Original Message - From: Kevin Brown http://us.mc558.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=h20farm...@yahoo.com To: The Chevelle Mailing List http://us.mc558.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chevelle-l...@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash Well It Is Clear To Me That Your Blind And I Am Sorry For That You Never Watched The Video Correctly Then The Dudes Head In The 2009 Hit The Steering Wheel To Life Threathing Blows. How Can You Possible Say That The 2009 Is Made Better?? Look At The Junkyards They Are Full Of Them Ya Tap The Dam Things The Front End FALLS off. Plastic Junk.. They Haven't Made A Decent Car Since The Early 80s I Own A 2007 Malibu It Is Junk Compared To My 70 SS... Yep Hands Down The Early Iron Is The Best Route. I Think I Have More Metal In My Engine Alone Then Is Whats In The Whole 2009. Ya Know I Used To Make Them 2009s When I Was A Kid. They Was Called Models I Glued Together. LMAO Kevin... Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler Grandpa To Many LOL --- On Tue, 9/22/09, Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net wrote: From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:55 AM I got some news for you therre skippy. That 2009 car is built from much stronger metal than the 59 Impala is. Not to mention the 2009 car is much more structurally sound than the 59 as well as the fact that the metal in the 59 has had 50 years to begin deteriorating. News cars are designed so the passenger compartment doesn't crush and it did it's job. That video is very real. If you were driving the 59 Impala in that video..you'd be dead, period. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: Kevin Brown http://us.mc558.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=h20farm...@yahoo.com To: The Chevelle Mailing http://us.mc558.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chevelle-l...@chevelles.net List Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash Thats Bullshit!! No Way Would That 2009 Stand Up Against The 59. I Have Seen Alot Of Wrecks in My Day That 59 Would of Cut The 2009 In Half!! What Did They Do To The 59 Take Out All The Fender Bolts Etc.. I Had A 61 That Knocked Over A Friggin Tree And Only Put A V In The Front. Yes It Was A Waste Of A Beautiful Car But Re-Look The Video Over Can't Be Real.. Slight Knee Injury?? The Air Bags Was Too Slow To Deploy. Look at The Dummy In The 2009s Head Is Whips The Steering Wheel Like A Bag Of Oranges.Ask Me I Would Rather Have A 59 Anyday If I Was Gonna Crash Into Todays Cars.. Kevin... Father To Holly,Lisa,Jacob,Shianna,Tyler Grandpa To Many LOL --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Larry Williams larrydwilli...@hughes.net wrote: From: Larry Williams larrydwilli...@hughes.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] OT:YouTube crash To: Chevelle List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 9:58 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k0XmLUk What a waste of a beautiful classic car. As*holes! Larry -Inline Attachment Follows- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2387 - Release Date: 09/21/09 17:55:00 E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13300 http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor
Re: [Chevelle-list] Bucket Seat Bases
Minor point but 67 68 release buttons were on the side, 69 and later were on the back. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of bad66chevelle...@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:19 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bucket Seat Bases What bases are you referring to? The actual frame? Or the covers that go on the sides and back? From GM they were metal...but reproduction are plastic. They are physically the same from 66-72, except 66 doesn't have a button release, its on the side for 67, and then it's in the middle on the back for 68-72. Just going off memory here. -Original Message- From: Jess Fedrick jessfedr...@bellsouth.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 8:22 am Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bucket Seat Bases I have had a couple of 72's and they have all been metal. jess _ From: ronnie, a.k.a. rocko rocko67c...@yahoo.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:17:43 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Bucket Seat Bases Hello, i have a 67 chevelle, the bucket seat bases are metal, iam told bases are the same from 66 thru 72 my question is this, did general motors go from metal to plastic in the later models ? or were they all made from metal ?
Re: [Chevelle-list] 65 to 66 question
If I'm not mistaken 64 thru 67 are the same width, it's the 68-72 that are wider than the 64 thru 67. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Jim H. Thompson Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:29 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 65 to 66 question Yes and it is a bit narrower so you can get wider tires on. -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dave Benjamin Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:38 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] 65 to 66 question Will a 1965 chevelle rear end fit a 1966 and what about front control arms etc? Thanks Again Dave Ingersoll,Ontario My Web Site: http://members.tripod.com/benj30/ - Original Message - From: Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 6:37 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] anyone here?
Re: [Chevelle-list] Goodbye Cruisers?
They'll be resurgence, just like the 40s 50s cars are still popular today. In twenty or so years, the 70s cars will still be going strong and maybe some 80s A-body machines. Like Larry, I see the current Mustangs, possibly late Camaros and maybe even the new Camaros Challengers will survive and tuners will be going I'm sure. Dale _ - Original Message - From: Rick Schaefer mailto:ric...@gmail.com To: The mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Good By Cruisers? Interesting read, but I don't think that its entirely true. We (baby boomer generation) may not see a future classic in any of the current offerings, but in 20-40 years, WE won't be the cruisers.The kids of today will be harkening (can anyone give me the word I want?) back to their Good-Old-Days . They'll be cruisin in 5.0 Mustangs, Tuners and whatever floats their boat today.We (mostly) are not interested in the cars our dads grandfathers were cruising in. And the same will be true for our kids grandkids. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Larry Williams larrydwilli...@hughes.net wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090816/ap_on_re_us/us_dream_cruise Thought you all might be interested in this article. Larry Williams 65 SS 496 -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] O/T camaro forum
Sister site to Team Chevelle is Team Camaro - http://www.camaros.net http://www.camaros.net/ . There's a link on the main Team Chevelle Forum page at http://www.chevelles.com/forums/index.php. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of harkema...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:27 AM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] O/T camaro forum anyone know of a good Camaro Forum? thanks! Harlan http://www.hkaa.webs.com http://www.hkaa.webs.com/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Location of shifter
The Competition Plus is/was different than the Super Shifter. The Super Shifter was a 'generic' unit and sat the housing in a straight line with the shift rods with the installation kit (rods, shift arms, etc.) being the only difference between various transmissions. The Comp Plus is/was a 'bolt-in' to replace the original Muncie unit with installation kits and shifter body tailored to specific applications. The shift handle on the 68 unit is shown to be bent about 1 toward the driver half-way up the handle. Isn't this bend applicable to the original unit? Interior photos I have of 68s with a console appear to show a bend. Could it be you might have the wrong installation kit or shift tower? Maybe a 64-67 unit or a 69-72 unit? My 2005 Hurst .PDF shows a 68 with a Muncie is different from 64-67 and 69-72 units. Installation kit (373 3163) is the same as 64-67 due to the attachment arms but the shifter only (391 8014) is the same as the 69-72 Muncie units. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Trooper Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 5:21 PM To: granitecityperforma...@charter.net; The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Location of shifter I ran a Hurst super shifter with Muncie 4 gear in my 69 before I started the resto. The shifter came right up the factory hole in the floor with no mods but the shifter handle was too short to use the console. Trooper - Original Message - From: GCP Tech granitecityperforma...@charter.net To: chevelle-list: chevelles.net chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 2:11 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Location of shifter I need to make a custom bracket to attach the shifter to the transmission... It's a Muncie transmission with a Hurst Competition Plus shifter that is going into a '68 Chevelle. It's supposed to fit inside the stock console. I noticed the shifter stick has a 90-degree jog in it, pushing the stick toward the passenger side... Just wondering where the stick ends up. I'd like to assume it's centered down the centerline of the transmission. I have nothing to check it against since the floor is all new. Does anyone have the same transmission and shifter? With the transmission in 3rd or 4th gear; how far from the edge of the stick to say, the driver door panel or center of the steering column? Kind regards, Don Hoeschen Granite City Performance custom engineered competition components http://www.granitecityperformance.com/
Re: [Chevelle-list] car show form
I've only seen them at the particular show. Usually comes with the goodie bag. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Robert Waugh Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:20 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] car show form Can some one send me a car show info form to post on windshield. Thanks. Robert _ HotmailR has ever-growing storage! Don't worry about storage limits. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutori al_Storage_062009
Re: [Chevelle-list] Out of Office
If it continues, maybe forwarding all emails to the referenced Scott Hughes (shug...@americanautowire.com) might help. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Trooper Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:17 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Out of Office How many times are we going to have to delete this - Original Message - From: la...@americanautowire.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Out of Office I will be out of the office until Tuesday 6/23/09. If you need immediate help, you may contact Scott Hughes @ 856-933-0801 ex. 233. If it is an emergency, please let Scott know and they will contact me via cellphone. Thank you, Larry Troth American Autowire 150 Heller Place #17 Bellmawr, NJ 08031 856-933-0801 ex.232
Re: [Chevelle-list] Help please withTransmission codes
Joe, Looks like your transmission is made of different pieces and that's not uncommon. 3846429 is the number for a 63-65 tail housing, driver side speedometer, 27 spline 3925660 is the number for 1968-1970 main case R9R27B is a mystery. Is this a stamped sequence or a casting? The only way to really insure it has a M22 gear setup in it is to pull the side cover and inspect the cut of the gears. See http://www.chevellestuff.com/qd/muncie.htm for a comparison of M20/M21 to M22 Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of rotty...@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:57 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Help please withTransmission codes I have a preson that wants to sell his 69 (so he says) Rock crusher Transmission M22 he has given me the codes off the housing and I was hoping that you guys could help me decifer it 3846429 3925660 R9R37B Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Joe P. _ Wanna slim down for summer? Go to America http://www.aolhealth.com/diet/weight-loss-program/?ncid=emlcntusheal000 1 Takes it Off to learn how.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Source for Numbers
Ecklers (http://www.ecklerschevelle.com) sells individual numbers with adhesive backing. Do a search on their site for fender emblem number. They show every number except 1 and they are $19 a pop - $114 for six numbers. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Larry Williams Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:39 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Source for Numbers Does anyone know of a source for body trim numbers similar to the stock numbers like 327,396. I would like to find 496 to put on the front fender along with the flags. The car was originally a 327 - maybe I should put that back on. Larry Williams
Re: [Chevelle-list] Heavy Chevy (?)
Along with the domed hood with hood pins like the SS Equipment optioned Malibus in 71 72. The 3-speed manual was the base transmission on the Standard (13437/1C37) Chevelle regardless of engine although for some reason, the Power Teams chart in the 71 restoration kit doesn't show a 3-speed for the350/265 L65 engine where 72 does. For 71 only the 2.54 low gear 4-speed and Turbo Hydra-Matic are shown with the L65 engine. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Jim H. Thompson Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:37 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Heavy Chevy (?) They were basically a sticker and Rally wheels. Not only a 3 speed on the floor. Taxi cab interior, bench seat and vinyl floor like a truck. From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of KW Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:23 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Heavy Chevy (?) Thought someone might find this interesting, didn't realize you could get a Heavy Chevy with a 3 sp. BTW, that's Blacksburg, Va. http://blacksburg.craigslist.org/cto/1169551642.html 1972 chevelle, heavy chevy car, no motor, 3 speed manual trans, needs restored $1800 599-7683, leave message NO EMAILS PLEASE
Re: [Chevelle-list] non-Chevelle - 2003 Sable won't start
No need to get defensive. I guess you missed my post: Thanks, Bill, that could be it. I have a Battery Tender charger and hooked it up. It has red green indicators and when the green isn't lit it indicates below 80% battery power. I left it on for about 4 hours before the green started to flash - indicating the battery had reached 80%. A couple more hours and the green was steady indicating a good charge. Car started right up after that. So, starting the car and checking all the accessories wasn't an option. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of harkema...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:42 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] non-Chevelle - 2003 Sable won't start Yes I know, but i was merely stating what weird problems can be associated with newer cars and their electrical systems, most of your other replys did not relate as well, did you prefer the ghostbusters one better?, also the seat belt not being retracted all the way in somehow drained the battery-- UH to you too In a message dated 5/25/2009 11:10:51 PM Central Daylight Time, 396...@lcisp.com writes: Uh, problem was it only clicked when the key was turned - it wouldn't turn over much less start. Battery somehow drained overnight. Dale ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377034x1201454326/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Maystep sfooterNO62)
Re: [Chevelle-list] non-Chevelle - 2003 Sable won't start
Uh, problem was it only clicked when the key was turned - it wouldn't turn over much less start. Battery somehow drained overnight. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Granite City Performance Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:27 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] non-Chevelle - 2003 Sable won't start Harlan, Sounds more like the fuel system in this situation. Try turning the key to on for a few seconds before cranking. If it starts quicker, replace the fuel filter. Otherwise get the pressure checked, you may need a new fuel pump. I had the same problem with my Tahoe I swore up and down it was a weak ignition coil --Don : G r a n i t e . C i t y . P e r f o r m a n c e : custom engineered competition components http://www.granitecityperformance.com/ From: harkema...@aol.com Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 7:33 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] non-Chevelle - 2003 Sable won't start my wifes 1995 cadi would turn over for 5 seconds before starting, i replaced the battery and then it would pop right off- very weird, i guess like someone else stated there was not enough power to power up all the electrical- ECU systems in the car Harlan ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823249x1201398664/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072 http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823249x1201398664/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=MayExcf ooterNO62 hmpgID=62bcd=MayExcfooterNO62)
[Chevelle-list] non-Chevelle - 2003 Sable won't start
Wife's 2003 Sable doesn't want to start. Turn ignition key and all it does is click several times. All accessories work (radio, power windows, seats, headlights, etc.) She said odd things happening the last few days - with A/C on max the radio would come on by itself, she'd turn it off and a few minutes later it'd come back on - also with A/C on max, driver window wouldn't go down. Not sure if A/C had anything to do with the radio and/or window or not. Checked battery connections, 14-16 volts across the battery terminals, battery level good. Naturally being a holiday weekend, nothing open to day and maybe not tomorrow either. Any thoughts? Starter, solenoid ? Not real bright on anything past the late 60's. LOL Dale Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2142/fc/BLSrjpTLa8uD73hHMOAnoytUL2zhNGv G6qqxTwxzNKEsW1lTtLOfOj9vwiM/
Re: [Chevelle-list] non-Chevelle - 2003 Sable won't start
Thanks, Bill, that could be it. I have a Battery Tender charger and hooked it up. It has red green indicators and when the green isn't lit it indicates below 80% battery power. I left it on for about 4 hours before the green started to flash - indicating the battery had reached 80%. A couple more hours and the green was steady indicating a good charge. Car started right up after that. We've had the car over 4 years and I don't remember ever buying a battery for it so it may be worn out. I'll have it load tested and see if it's capable of retaining a charge. First time this has happened with it so it may be a worn out battery. Hope it's not something in the charging system. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Bill Vander Werf Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:07 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] non-Chevelle - 2003 Sable won't start Before you go chasing gremlins, check your connections, especially the ground. A bad ground can make things seem demon possessed. Then have the battery load tested. You could waste a lot of time checking out all manner of weird symptoms when the battery is the culprit. Bill Vander Werf - Original Message - From: Dale mailto:396...@lcisp.com To: 'The mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] non-Chevelle - 2003 Sable won't start Wife's 2003 Sable doesn't want to start. Turn ignition key and all it does is click several times. All accessories work (radio, power windows, seats, headlights, etc.) She said odd things happening the last few days - with A/C on max the radio would come on by itself, she'd turn it off and a few minutes later it'd come back on - also with A/C on max, driver window wouldn't go down. Not sure if A/C had anything to do with the radio and/or window or not. Checked battery connections, 14-16 volts across the battery terminals, battery level good. Naturally being a holiday weekend, nothing open to day and maybe not tomorrow either. Any thoughts? Starter, solenoid ? Not real bright on anything past the late 60's. LOL Dale
Re: [Chevelle-list] printed curcuit ?
If your Chevelle has factory U14 gauges and tach, the oil pressure is still a lamp and is incorporated in the tachometer head. For some reason Chevrolet did away with the oil gauge itself in 1970. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of rml...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:30 PM To: BOBBY Subject: [Chevelle-list] printed curcuit ? I have a 70 chevelle ss 396/350 The dash has guages. except for the oil press. It has a light I am guessing I've never actually seen it light up. nothing in the dash works so I was thinking about ordering a new printed curcuit. With hopes that it fixes the fuel, temp, and amp guages. The ones I looked at online say they are for a dash with guages. Is this what I need even though I dont have a oil press. guage. Thanks for your help and advice. Bob.
Re: [Chevelle-list] valve lash sequence
I have a page for valve lash adjustment at http://www.chevellestuff.com/tech/vla.htm you might check and bookmark if satisfactory. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Jim Chris Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:10 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] valve lash sequence If you don't mind I'd like to see the valve lash tightening sequence attachment also. Thank You, Jimmy.C col...@warwick.net or send it out to the list it seems to have generated some interest
Re: [Chevelle-list] Bad Valve seals???
Looks like it, Rick. Maybe bad seals or a worn guide. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rick Schaefer Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:43 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Bad Valve seals??? This is a link to a picture looking into my exhaust ports. http://s629.photobucket.com/albums/uu13/rickas47/?action=view http://s629.photobucket.com/albums/uu13/rickas47/?action=viewcurrent=4-30- 09001.jpgnewest=1 current=4-30-09001.jpgnewest=1Am I correct that the one on the right is normal and the one on the left indicates bad seals?OR something else?I do have a puff of smoke when I initially start the motor and was intending to replace the seals. -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] OT: frame question
I have a Hollander's manual for Chevelles. For 68-72 Chevelles there is a *type* they number as 1943. For Chevelles this fits 68-70 2-dr (exc. Pickup) 1971 1972 H.T. Conv. Chevelles. Quite a few A-bodies are listed under type 1943. Buick Special '68 2 Dr., Conv. Buick Special '69 2 Dr. exc. GS400 H.T. Buick Special '70 2 Dr., Conv Buick Special '71-72 2 Dr. exc. 8-455 Chevelle '68-70 2 Dr. exc. Pickup Chevelle '71-72 2 Dr., H.T. Conv. Olds F85 '68 2 Dr., Conv. Olds F85 '69 2 Dr. Olds F85 '70 2 Dr. Conv. Olds F85 '71-72 2 Dr. Tempest '68 2 Dr., Conv. Tempest '69 2 Dr. Tempest '70 2 Dr., Conv., exc. 8-455 Tempest '70 2 Dr., H.T., exc. 8-455 Tempest '70 2 Dr., Sdn Tempest '71-72 2 Dr., exc. 8-455 The convertibles probably all have boxed frames but other than that are probably the same basic frame. Don't know why the Buick GS400 or (I assume V8 w/455 engine) in Buick Tempest are different. I scanned the two pages in the book if you like and will mail them to you offline.may be easier to make sense than the pieces I chopped out. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Daryl S. Davis Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:09 PM To: jimthompso...@gmail.com; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT: frame question It is rusted out in several spots along the bottom of the frame rails. It is still in the car and probably will be until I finish with the Chevelle. I'm thinking I should know what all will swap in case I trip across one in the next year or so. Daryl S. Davis Davis Management Inc. (907) 694-2922 From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Jim H. Thompson Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:50 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] OT: frame question Convertible frames are boxed from the factory. The others are not. Where is it rusted out? Do you have it out of the car? From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Daryl S. Davis Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:11 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] OT: frame question I have a 71 442 convertible which I need to find a frame to replace a rusted out existing frame. Could anyone tell me what all GM frames will work in this swap? Thanks Daryl S. Davis Davis Management Inc. 67 Chevelle convertible 71 442 convertible 65 Mustang coupe
Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack
While it's true much of the information can be found online, it is convenient to have all of it in one place. While most of the years are not complete with some optional equipment and some data may be outdated after publication, it is data published by Chevrolet and is generally good until someone can disprove it with other GM documentation. Of course every year is different in what is presented but there are still some good data that's hard to find online such as standard features found on the various series. For me, having all from 64 to 72 is nice but I don't think I'd pay $50 for any single year. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of z16chevelle...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:43 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack Good portion of what I received for my 65 is in the 1965 Chevelle Body manual or on websites. I personally don't think the information sent is worth much. Any Chevelle Gearhead can find all the information online. Larry (Z) inal Message - From: 66chevelless...@comcast.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:24:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack Hey, we can be part of the GM bailout plan at $50 a pop. Did get mine a few years ago, free was good and $5 - $10 seems resonable, but not $50. -Krister - Original Message - From: Trooper chevy...@hughes.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 9:19:55 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack I agree. I would guess they could cover their cost for less than 5 bucks. I'd give maybe $10 for one. 50 is out of the question. Trooper - Original Message - From: Dale mailto:396...@lcisp.com To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack Ouch! For a small stack of generic photocopied literature? Glad I got all the 65-72 kits when I did. Free was nice and it might be worth $10-$15 in labor/paper/mailing costs but $50 is outrageous. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of plgchevell...@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 6:11 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack A representative at GM told me the other day that as of 3/1/09 there is a $50.00 charge for the Restoration pack. Phil G. 65 SS _ Join ChristianMingle.comR FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=htt p://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuysrc=platformaadid=aolfo oternewurl=reg_path.html
Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack
Initial report said it's already in effect as of . A representative at GM told me the other day that as of 3/1/09 there is a $50.00 charge for the Restoration pack. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of harkema...@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:48 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack better get one then before 5-1-- does someone have the number handy ?? i know i have it somewhere neatly filed-- (yea!!) Harlan http://www.hkaa.webs.com http://www.hkaa.webs.com/ ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572844x1201387506/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Aprilfo oter420NO62)
Re: [Chevelle-list] 1969 SS Spare in Trunk
The spare wheel always matched the four mounted on the car, be they SS wheels or not discounting space saver wheels of course. I assume the spare wheel was mounted with the tire fill valve down was a conscious decision to (1) maintain uniformity, (2) possibly to keep the J hook as short as possible and/or (3) to keep the jack base below the level of the tire. Think about it, if the wheel were face up the J hook would need to be longer and force the jack base to be sitting on top of the wheel and on a SS wheel that would be a very small spot where the center cap hole is tend to mar the surface. The 1969 AIM does show two configurations on the SS wheel storage from the J hook and jack base through the center of the wheel on one to showing the J hook coming through a wheel stud hole and the base is stored under the wheel/tire along with the mast and wrench stored in different locations. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of rotty...@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:07 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 1969 SS Spare in Trunk Hey Guy's I asked that same question about a year ago. Only that I asked if it was an SS rim or a regular rim that was a spare? Everyone said an SS rim, but no one said it was face down, why install an SS rim face down. I have seen alot of Chevelle's with a regular rim in the trunk. Thanks Joe ** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003)
Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack
Ouch! For a small stack of generic photocopied literature? Glad I got all the 65-72 kits when I did. Free was nice and it might be worth $10-$15 in labor/paper/mailing costs but $50 is outrageous. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of plgchevell...@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 6:11 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Chevrolet Restoration Pack A representative at GM told me the other day that as of 3/1/09 there is a $50.00 charge for the Restoration pack. Phil G. 65 SS _ Join ChristianMingle.comR FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=htt p://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuysrc=platformaadid=aolfo oternewurl=reg_path.html now!
[Chevelle-list] Speedometer cable hole
I'm looking for data on 67 Chevelles concerning the speedometer cable hole in the firewall. The 66 model year may also apply. I have a 67 El Camino that originally came with a Powerglide and the hole in the firewall for the speedometer cable is just below the steering column. Question #1. Would I be correct in assuming the 3-speed manual use the same hole as the Powerglide? I also know (I think) the 4-speed speedometer cable enters the firewall on the passenger side. Question #2. Would (or should) the firewall have provisions for both cable locations? My Fremont-built El Camino (w/PG) does not have a hole on the passenger side. Question #3. Would (or should) a 4-speed car with speedometer cable hole on passenger side have the hole on the driver side and just have it plugged or would it even be present? Then. Where is the hole in your firewall for the speedometer cable? What year? What plant? What factory transmission? Thanks! Dale
Re: [Chevelle-list] 1969 SS Spare in Trunk
The 1969 AIM shows tire valve stem facing floor (UPC 10/sheet A2). No cap or trim ring on spare is what I've always heard. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of stevel396 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:27 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] 1969 SS Spare in Trunk A couple of questions as I get ready for the spring shows; Is the SS wheel spare in the trunk supposed to be mounted facing up or down? Is it supposed to have a center cap and trim ring on it? Thanks in advance.
Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 Chevelle Gas Tank
Make sure the old tank is empty of gas and as much vapors as possible before dropping it. Might even consider running the car as dry as possible - possible sediment might be a consideration on how dry you run it with the engine. Naturally, disconnect the hoses and sender wiring before removing and maybe even flush out the tank with water if possible and let sit for a day or two with the cap off to help ventilate before dropping the old one. A floor jack and either a thin piece of plywood or thick cardboard between the jack head and tank to spread the weight when dropping the old tank. A buddy helping to keep the tank on the jack would be nice too. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of bad66chevelle...@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:49 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 69 Chevelle Gas Tank Hey Frank, It really is quite easy and straight forward. What I did...was get the straps hooked on the non-bolted endI want to say that I taped the felts to the tank, just at the end of them to hold them in place. Then I slide the tank under the car, and held it into place, and got one of the straps bolted up(loosely).Then got the other one bolted up, then tightened both up. It's pretty easy when there is no gas in it -Original Message- From: Frank Gondermann f.gonderm...@comcast.net To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 9:43 pm Subject: [Chevelle-list] 69 Chevelle Gas Tank I know this may be a very simple under taking but I thought I would ask the list anyway. I am about to replace the fuel tank on my 69 SS. I have new straps, rubber stripping, mounting hardware and of course the tank. Anything I should be aware of, i.e. difficulties etc. Please let me know, as this one thing I have never replaced before. Thanks, Frank Gondermann 69 Chevelle SS ACES Member 07312 _ Get the scoop on the live music scene in your area and hit a show tonight. http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi0005 Check out TourTracker.com!
Re: [Chevelle-list] 1/4 mile drags?
It may have had more to do with the first commercial drag racing held at Santa Ana at the old John Wayne Airport. C.J. Pappy Hart and a couple of partners are credited with the first commercial drag race on June 19, 1950 on a runway at the airport. According to some reports a 1/2 mile distance was initially proposed but a 1/4 mile was settled on. Good story on C.J. Hart at http://www.wediditforlove.com/cj-2.html Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Mascheck Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:20 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 1/4 mile drags? Thanks, that makes more sense! -Original Message- From: Granite CityPerformance [mailto:granitecityperforma...@charter.net] Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 7:18 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 1/4 mile drags? http://americanhistory.si.edu/onthemove/themes/story_66_4.html The arbitrary distance of 1/4-mile came, according to one version of the story from the fact that it was easily measured on a straight stretch of rural road... - Original Message - From: Tom Rightler bluess...@comcast.net To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 1/4 mile drags? Safety. Did you see what happened to John Force 2 years ago, and Scott Kalitta last year? Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: Daniel Mascheck dmasch...@sbcglobal.net To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 1/4 mile drags? Does anyone know the reason drag races are 1/4 mile? I know there are some 1/8 mile ones, but why did they end up 1/4 mile! Why not a mile or more? Dan Mascheck
Re: [Chevelle-list] Manual Steering Box
The power steering box itself should bolt in place of the manual box. You'll need a different pitman arm for power steering. Power steering pitman arms are listed for: 64-67 Chevelle #5693764 (cast with number 5693763) 68-72 Chevelle #5679209 (cast with number 5679208) FWIW, manual pitman arms are: 64-67 Chevelle #5693762 (cast with number 5693761) 68-72 Chevelle #7811779 (no casting number given) Naturally you'll need the proper power steering pump, hoses, brackets, pulleys where applicable and belt. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Johann Grobler Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 11:08 AM To: granitecityperforma...@charter.net; The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Manual Steering Box Yes please let us know as I want to do the same with my 65 Malibu - Original Message - From: GCP Tech granitecityperforma...@charter.net To: chevelle-list: chevelles.net chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Manual Steering Box I'll be replacing a manual steering box with a power box in a 1968 Chevelle, it appears to bolt into the same location...is there anything I should watch out for? The manual box has lubricant leaking from under the plate with the thrust adjuster thingy. Should there be a gasket between the body and plate? Looks like someone packed it full of (red) general purpose wheel bearing grease. Is this the proper lubricant? Granite City Performance custom engineered competition components http://www.granitecityperformance.com/
Re: [Chevelle-list] VIN numbers matching
No, none of should. The tag on the firewall is the Fisher Body number plate (aka trim tag, cowl tag, etc.) while the VIN plate on the A-pillar is the Chevrolet identification from GM. Body numbers are generally sequential by particular STYLE shown on the trim tag while the VIN plate is sequential per plant in production order regardless of series or body style. Another misconception is the Style number on the trim tag indicates a V8 or L6 engine -- it does not. The first 5 numbers of the VIN do indicate if it was born with a V8 or L6 and the body style (sport coupe, conv., pickup, wagon, etc.) but the Style number on the trim tag is a different animal. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Rowan, Jerry Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 4:43 PM To: granitecityperforma...@charter.net; The Chevelle Mailing List; The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] VIN numbers matching Shouldn't the entire tag number on the firewall match the tag on the A pillar inside of the door on a Chevelle? Thanks for your time Jerry
Re: [Chevelle-list] 71 72 elkys
Parts book shows same extensions for 71-72 but different between El Camino/Wagon and all others. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Tom Rightler Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:07 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 71 72 elkys Don't be too sure about that. The 1970 models are different. The fenders and extensions on 1970 Chevelles have a defined bodyline down the fender extending on to the extension. El Caminos and Wagons DO NOT. The same may ( and probably is true) for 71-72 models. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: mugwomp...@aol.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 71 72 elkys Harlan, They are the same. Bruce Mogul '70/ '72 SS/ '77 El Cams ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID% 3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 3/12/2009 10:38 AM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Tires Wheels
http://www.newstalgiawheel.com/wheel_visualizer.asp is one. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of plgchevell...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:24 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Tires Wheels Can anyone direct me to the website that allows you to try out different tires wheels on your car. Just being lazy. I promise to save it. Thanks Guys. Phil G. 65 SS _ Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown0035 the Radio Toolbar!
Re: [Chevelle-list] zMax Lubricants
Found some discouraging data on not only them but aftermarket additives as well. Google zmax oil treatment http://www.texassynthetics.com/aftermarketmore.htm http://www.epinions.com/review/zMAX_Micro_Lubricant/content_170841181828 http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm Many on the Corvette Forum (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-general/1872104-zmax-additive.html) consider additives 'snake oil' and recommend sticking with GM's policy of no engine oil additives at all. Never used it myself but even if the mileage savings were valid, the cost of the stuff offsets any mileage increase. Caveat Emptor Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of jww1...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:24 AM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] zMax Lubricants Anybody have thoughts or experience with zMax products? Web site says they have products for engine, transmission and fuel systems. I have seen a lot of advertising lately and am wondering about their products. Thanks, Jerry Wells '70 SS 454 _ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=feb emailfooterNO62 yours in just 2 easy steps!
Re: [Chevelle-list] TH400 rebuild - Saving the Plate
It is - see http://www.chevellestuff.com/qd/th400.htm for several examples. If they're using a manually controlled washer, pressure washer I assume and not a hot tank type dip, maybe they could cover the tag with a plastic bag, tape it off, and be careful around the tag. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of z16chevelle...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:00 PM To: dansolo...@msn.com; The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] TH400 rebuild - Saving the Plate Isnt the ID tag riveted to the housing? Might be hard to find that type of rivet. I believe they are aluminum and not a pop rivet. Larry (Z) -- Original message -- From: Dan Solomon dansolo...@msn.com I have my TH400 at the shop being rebuilt. The guy at the shop said that the washer will remove the red paint from the identification plate. Any tricks that will keep that from happening. I am afraid to try and remove it for fear it will look like I fudged the numbers. Dan Solomon It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry. http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/
Re: [Chevelle-list] 1969 Spare Tire
All 5 wheels are the same, SS car would get an SS wheel for the spare. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Steve Lordsmeyer Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:07 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] 1969 Spare Tire What kind of wheel would a spare be mounted on in a 1969 SS 396 car? A standard steel wheel or a SS mag? Thanks in advance!
Re: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book
Here's a couple more with *enjoyable* errors. LOL Standard Catalog of Chevelle 1964-1987 by John Gunnell Chevelle SS 1964-1972, A Muscle Car Source Book by Jeffrey Steffes Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Dan Solomon Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:10 PM To: Chevelle List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book I agree that there are errors but still a good read. Actually finding the mistakes in text and photos has been quite enjoyable. Dan Solomon It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry. http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ _ From: Tom Rightler Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:26:01 -0500 To: The Chevelle Mailing Listchevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book That book is only good for a paperweight unless you like reading incorrect information. It is laced with errors. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: Daniel Solomon mailto:dansolo...@msn.com To: The mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book One of my favorite books is Chevelle SS Restoration Guide by MBI Publications. ISBN Number 0-87938-569-3. Its a great reference guide filled with lots of good information about the Chevelle SS. Cant help with the small block book. All mine are big blocks. It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object to realize you are in a hurry. http://www.freewebs.com/chevelles1970/ Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:08:48 -0500 From: t...@eagleshore.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] Christmas Book My daughter traditionally gets me a book for Christmas, and she is looking for ideas for me this year. I'm still learning-as-I go with this hobby, working on my '71 Malibu and '66 El Camino. I might get into rebuilding the small block in the Malibu some day, and would like to learn more about this. Can anyone suggest a good book for either general Chevelle history, or engine rebuild how-to? Thanks. Tom Tomlinson _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1855 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 10:16 AM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Towed Home - Update
Who'd have thought about a bad tach? Sometimes being forgetful pays off, eh? Dale _ - Original Message - From: Rick Schaefer mailto:ric...@gmail.com To: The mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Towed Home - Update About 10 days ago, I posted that my elky had died on the side of the road. Asked for suggestions on troubleshooting no spark from an HEI distributor. After much aggravation blind alleys I got it running today. I had 3 modules checked by parts store (all good) , 4 coils all ohms checked the same so I assumed that they were good. Tried various combinations of modules coils to no avail. Last monday I found the radio fuse in my fuse box blown. I was sure that I had checked for 12V at the distributor previously- but maybe I didn't. I have the HEI connected to the ACC position in my fuse box this is fed by the radio fuse.Dummy me! Thought I had it licked. I replaced the fuse and then reassembled my distributor. Took my time to get it right. Even ohms checked the wire harness, pickup capacitor to make sure that they were all good.Once done, with SUPREME confidence I twisted the key. WTF - NO GO! Nothing , not even a hint of wanting to start. To say I was frustrated was an understatement.Left it alone all week. Today I went out to look at it again, starting from square one. Checked 12V at connector in fuse box - OK. Went to dist to check for 12V. Disconnected Tach Power wires at distributor. 12 V -fine. Reconnected power to HEI. Connected timing light ( to a different plug wire) was gonna check for spark. Went around to door to crank it, while holding timing lite. Hit the key - and it STARTED first kick! Scared the crap out of me. WTF - once more. Went for a test drive. Everything was great, except I had forgot to reconnect the tach and it was dead. Stopped at K-Mart to buy some stakes for Christmas Lights. When I came out, I popped the hood to reconnect the tach wire. Climbed in, hit key - NOTHING AGAIN!. Genius that I am, I quickly opened the hood and disconnected the tach. STARTED RIGHT UP! Came home - reconnected tach wire - and no start.BAD TACH - UGH! Thats my story and I'm stickin to it!
Re: [Chevelle-list] Back On List Again
I've used Outlook 2003 for six years now as a client for about a dozen email accounts. Except for one corrupt .pst file, haven't really had any problems. If one is careful with attachments and used an active virus program. Dale _ From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Speake Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:26 PM To: jimthompso...@gmail.com; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Back On List Again I use Outlook. Chuck Speake 1970 Chevelle Malibu Glen Ellyn, IL. From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Jim H. Thompson Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:16 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Back On List Again Just a quick survey. How many use Outlook? I use outlook, gmail and HTML From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Malibu Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:24 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Back On List Again Don't know if you know, but gmail can be downloaded to Outlook. And that's very convenient. - Original Message - From: Daniel Jones mailto:drj1...@gmail.com To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Back On List Again Now back on list after being bounced off. Have a email with the dreaded @sbcglobal.net. After much discussion with ATT it was decided I would have to have another email address to be on the list. So I went back to gmail. It isn't convenient but I did miss reading the mails from those on the list. Hopefully this will work. D.R. Jones Burleson, TX 1972 Monte Carlo 1972 El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] Carb Question
The 3310 was originally used on the 1965 Z16 but was carried over to the aftermarket by Holley due to its popularity. Various sub versions have appeared over the years, -2, -3, -4, etc. Dale -Original Message- From: chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list- boun...@chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Roger Griggs Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 8:47 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Carb Question I have my Chevelle in the body shop for some repairs and in the meantime, I had them pull the carburetor off so I could have it rebuilt. Its a Holley 3310-2-0896. Had this carb been changed from original. It was on a 1970 396. Seems like its the wrong year carb Thanks --- On Mon, 12/15/08, Michael Pell mjp...@prostreetcar.com wrote: From: Michael Pell mjp...@prostreetcar.com Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Back On List Again To: The Chevelle Mailing List chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:38 PM I avoid Outlook like the plague. I assume it still is, but at one time it was the #1 target for hackers/virus/worms, etc. I use good OLD Netscape Mail. :-) -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com Hoosier State Chevelle Assoc (http://www.IndianaChevelles.com) #6 Chuck Speake wrote: I use Outlook. *Chuck Speake* *1970 Chevelle Malibu* *Glen Ellyn, IL.* *From:* chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] *On Behalf Of *Jim H. Thompson *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2008 8:16 PM *To:* 'The Chevelle Mailing List' *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Back On List Again Just a quick survey. How many use Outlook? I use outlook, gmail and HTML *From:* chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net [mailto:chevelle-list-boun...@chevelles.net] *On Behalf Of *Malibu *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:24 PM *To:* The Chevelle Mailing List *Subject:* Re: [Chevelle-list] Back On List Again /Don't know if you know, but gmail can be downloaded to Outlook. And that's very convenient./ - Original Message - *From:* Daniel Jones mailto:drj1...@gmail.com *To:* chevelle-list@chevelles.net mailto:chevelle-list@chevelles.net *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:48 PM *Subject:* [Chevelle-list] Back On List Again Now back on list after being bounced off. Have a email with the dreaded @sbcglobal.net http://sbcglobal.net. After much discussion with ATT it was decided I would have to have another email address to be on the list. So I went back to gmail. It isn't convenient but I did miss reading the mails from those on the list. Hopefully this will work. D.R. Jones Burleson, TX 1972 Monte Carlo 1972 El Camino No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1849 - Release Date: 12/15/2008 9:01 AM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells
Check the number stamped on the housing against http://www.chevellestuff.com/qd/distributor_numbers.htm for Chevelle applications. Dale _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike schiavone Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:14 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells Thanks Dale, I have a cast iron TI with no tach drive, i know the Vettes had TI but were tach drive. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:33:03 -0600 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells No tach drive distributors for Chevelles I'm aware of. TI was offered in 65 Chevelles, Passenger and Corvettes and 66 Chevelles, Chevy IIs, Passenger and Corvettes under RPO K66. Dale _ - Original Message - From: mike mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schiavone To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells Hey Tom, thanks for that info. do you know if it would be tach drive dist. or not. At the present time i do have a TI, i thought it was for a vette but no tach drive. thanks for the help mike _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:30:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells 1966 Cars could have had a transisitor ignition setup. A friend of mine has a 66 SS396 hardtop with it. I don't have any pictures of it though. It's an early style electronic ignition system that pre-empted the HEI system. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: mike mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schiavone To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells Has any one seen or heard of a factory installed T I for early chevelles? any info would be helpful. thanks Mike _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. Sign http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access _112008 up today. _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1807 - Release Date: 11/23/2008 10:59 AM _ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows MobileR. See http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/ how. _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1807 - Release Date: 11/23/2008 10:59 AM _ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows MobileR. See how. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells
No tach drive distributors for Chevelles I'm aware of. TI was offered in 65 Chevelles, Passenger and Corvettes and 66 Chevelles, Chevy IIs, Passenger and Corvettes under RPO K66. Dale _ - Original Message - From: mike mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schiavone To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells Hey Tom, thanks for that info. do you know if it would be tach drive dist. or not. At the present time i do have a TI, i thought it was for a vette but no tach drive. thanks for the help mike _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:30:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells 1966 Cars could have had a transisitor ignition setup. A friend of mine has a 66 SS396 hardtop with it. I don't have any pictures of it though. It's an early style electronic ignition system that pre-empted the HEI system. Tom Rightler MCC Newsletter Editor - Original Message - From: mike mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schiavone To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Transistorized ignition for early chevells Has any one seen or heard of a factory installed T I for early chevelles? any info would be helpful. thanks Mike _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. Sign http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access _112008 up today. _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1807 - Release Date: 11/23/2008 10:59 AM _ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows MobileR. See how. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/ _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.9/1807 - Release Date: 11/23/2008 10:59 AM
Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone on that is a number's matching Guru?
The number 1 is for Chevrolet Division but I don't think that was used until 1968 when partial VINs were mandated by federal law. As I said, I've never seen a 67 engine with the preceding 1 for the division. Dale _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Hart Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 4:45 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone on that is a number's matching Guru? The number on the block pad sounds correct for the vehicle. I don't know what the original 1 in front of the 7 is on the pad. Usually just 7 for model year the a and the last 6 of the vin. You should also have some other letters and numbers on the pad. Will tell you where engine made, date engine made and then letters which tell what engine hp and if built with a auto or 4 spd trans. Doug From: Rowan, Jerry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:28 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone on that is a number's matching Guru? I recently purchased a numbers matching 67 Chevelle SS - My question is the VIN number on the car should match exactly the engine block number. Is that correct? The engine number is 17A152662 and the car VIN is 138177a152662I am missing a 7 in the engine block number versus the VIN on the body. Any thoughts from you experts? Thanks Jerry _ No viruses found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 http://www.iolo.com http://www.iolo.com/iav/iavpop3 _ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 http://www.iolo.com http://www.iolo.com/iav/iavsmtp
Re: [Chevelle-list] 67 shifting
The 700R4 shifting issues depend on what shifter you plan on using. When I put a 700R4 in place of the 4-speed in my old 67 I used a BM Quicksilver ratchet shifter and had a bracket made to position the shift handle to come through the 4-speed's original location. I'd already had a custom console built with the 4-speed location retained and didn't want to modify the entire console to accommodate a different location. If you're going to use a stock-type TH400 console, Shiftworks.com has a replacement shifter for TH350/TH400 that eliminates the rod linkage in favor of a cable. That might just work for a 700R4 as well; might not be able to get to low gear manually due to the detents and stops but that's not clear on the website. Kind of confusing on their site but they also show the console lens with (what looks like) P R N O D L2 L1 for 66/67 consoles so maybe their conversion kit does work on O/D transmissions. Convenience of the cable is the shifter bolts to the floor as normal and the cable only requires a small hole forward of the shifter instead of large hole on the side of the tunnel for mechanical rod linkage. I don't have specific measurements for the cable's hole but as long as the cable has a pretty straight forward shot from the shifter, it should still be well within the confines of the console. I'd guess it's even part of their instruction sheet. I've heard the 700R4 swap may require some additional clearance at the rear with the floorboard. I had mine installed at Phoenix Transmissions in Weatherford, TX. and they said the same thing. They had found though that if the body mounts were in good shape and/or recently replaced, they didn't find this an issue. Biggest problems they had run into was with old, compressed mounts allowing the body to settle more on the frame thereby causing the clearance issue. I also had to have the 4-speed driveshaft shortened but Phoenix Trans took care of that as well. The only other issue I can think of is trans cooling. Either a radiator with integral cooling or an external cooler is needed. Hope some of this helps and good luck on your project! Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Bradley Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 1:47 PM To: chevelle-list: chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] 67 shifting Gentlemen and Ladies Before I get those check the forum section, or the check your factory assembly book replies. No, I havent done either yet. I'm going to ask for the been there done that crowd! And links to the first option mentioned . Background: 1967 Chevrolet Chevelle Malibu ( bench seat replaced with 99 Grand Am electric bucket seats ), with a 283 2 barrel replaced with a 1984 305 topped off with an Edlebrock Torker aluminum intake manifold and a Rochester 4 barrel. Originally a powerglide, I'm now running a 700R4 overdrive (non electric) column shifted. I have a spare steering column I've removed the shifter from and filled the hole. I have an automatic transmission console, shifter and shift cable. Yes, you've guessed it, while gutted, I want to convert it to a floor shifted automatic with the console. What I really hope to get are tips and tricks for this project, that and maybe a template for cutting the hole for my shifter cable. I figure this is a great winter project(heated garage). I wanted to get it done before installing sound deadener , carpet seats, etc. . As I was saying, I'm getting ready to gut the cabin of the car, so any and all help would be greatly appreciated! Bill Bradley http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/ 67 Chevelle Malibu 305/700R4 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/1649723 71 Triumph Spitfire http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2506950 82 Kawasaki KZ305CSR
Re: [Chevelle-list] Car show judging
Frank, Their website shows the GOLD SPINNER judging criteria at http://www.chevyvettefest.net/judging.htm. There is also a statement that to be judged CORRECT, Indicated item appears correct to the best of the Judge's knowledge and in accordance with latest data available at the time. So if there's anything that might not generally be known, I'd say be prepared to prove it's right. I don't see anything on the site about Bow Tie Blvd (?) If you can't find anything there, I would contact the host of the show and ask for their judging criteria. Good luck at the show! Dale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Gondermann Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:25 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Car show judging Good evening all - I was curious if anyone on the list has a copy or can point me in the direction of a 1000 point judging sheet for cars shows. My brother in law and I are entering our cars in the Chevy Vettefest in Rosemont IL next month and I was curious as to what the judges look for. I am entering my 2003 50th Anniversary Corvette in the Gold Spinner category and he is entering his 1971 Camaro in Bow Tie Blvd Thanks Frank Gondermann 69 Chevelle SS ACES # 7312 2003 Anniversary Edition Corvette NCM # 514702
Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle Mag
What's the cover on this one, Bob? Last one have has a gray over green 67 and a 71 yellow convertible and dated July 2008. Dale _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:59 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Chevelle Mag Thanks for the replys. I just got the one for this time period and it is a great one as usual. It has lots of stuff about the 64-65s which is very interesting to me. I will let the list know when I see another. Bob A.C.E.S. #1164 T.C. #375 65 Malibu 85 El Camino 00 Monte Carlo 04 Harley-Davidson _ BUY http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1209326865x1200539441/aol?redir=htt p://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull on DVD today! image001.gif
