Re: [c-nsp] Disallowing sw tru all vlan X w/o add or remove

2009-07-15 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 02:09:17AM +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote:
 Currently we only allow if-authenticated on the console port. After a
 few funny situations the past year I'm seriously considering just
 enabling it for VTYs also. I'm not exactly sure why I haven't done this
 yet, but there's something inside my head telling me that there's some
 security aspect here. I just can think of it. :-)

Well, one angle of attack could be...

 - null-route the TACACS server IP
 - instant full access

Of course the null-route command would be visible in TACACS command
accounting, so you know whom to slap :-)

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-15 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 08:58:53PM -0800, Christopher E. Brown wrote:
 Come on guys, study the proto a little before going off.

We did...

 In order for MST to work all members of an MST domain *MUST* agree on
 the VLAN - MST group mapping.
 
 If you change the mapping it must update across all members of the domain.
 
 YOU ARE REDEFINING THE STP TOPOLOGY

... and that's just not workable for Real Networks that undergo daily 
changes, and have wildly differing VLAN topologies.  Especially the latter
one (due to traffic reasons, we have to move the STP active link for
VLAN 714 to *this* trunk).

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Re: [c-nsp] Give Cisco your feedback on the new download experience at tacwebsur...@cisco.com (was: several heart-felt flames regarding the mess that is the Cisco.com download experience)

2009-07-15 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2009-07-14 14:57 -0400), Jared Mauch wrote:

 I'm having a call with some people in a few minutes, I will share
 what is feasible to share once it's completed.

While I subscribe to the download manager hate, it doesn't bother me
nearly as much as unusable bugtool since the last upgrade two years
ago. Prior to the upgrade, I could solve maybe 1/3 of my cases, without
involving TAC. At that time, I thought bugtool was incredibly poorly
implemented, little did I know that it could get worse, much worse.
Why bugtool bothers me more is that I have software defects more often
than I need to upgrade boxes (new IOS maybe 3-4 times a year, but defects
several per week, as I open case for everything out of ordinary), and
worse come worse I can always email my SE to fetch me latest IOS,
but sucky bugtool is seriously hurting time it takes for me to solve an
issue.

I don't think the bugtool can carry that large amount of data, that it
can't be indexed with modern machine in acceptable time, delivering
instant searches without any qualifiers. The forced qualifying they now
have is annoying, as the bugs are tagged so poorly it makes you miss
them, even choosing just the main train, can lead you off (after you've
waited 20min to get the results).
Also how on earth can the bugs be tagged so poorly, I don't think it
would be large change process or DE effort when fixing a bug, to
give commitID for fix and commitID for the change which caused the
bug, allowing software to give perfect list of affected, non-affected
and fixed IOS'.

So if people are making some stand to CSCO about download manager,
it would be nice to include bugtool in the cry also.

Thanks,
-- 
  ++ytti
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Re: [c-nsp] Stability of 12.2(33)SRD?

2009-07-15 Thread Johannes Resch
On Tue, July 14, 2009 07:46, Stephen Fulton wrote:
 I'm looking for thoughts on the stability of 12.2(33)SRD releases (latest
 is
 SRD2) in general, as well as any experiences running it on the 7600/RSP720
 series.  I'm connecting a SIP400/SPA-5x1GEv2 to a CWDM network, and only
 SRD
 supports the CWDM SFP's on the SIP400.  Yay.

For proper CWDM SFP support on that platform, you might want to wait for
SRD2a (due Jul 20th) or SRD3, which include a fix for an annoying issue
where original CWDM SFPs from Cisco (recently produced ones starting from
a particular serial number) are not recognised properly and don't work  -
CSCsv79583.

-jr
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Re: [c-nsp] Give Cisco your feedback on the new download experience at tacwebsur...@cisco.com (was: several heart-felt flames regarding the mess that is the Cisco.com download experience)

2009-07-15 Thread Hank Nussbacher

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Saku Ytti wrote:


While I subscribe to the download manager hate, it doesn't bother me
nearly as much as unusable bugtool since the last upgrade two years
ago. Prior to the upgrade, I could solve maybe 1/3 of my cases, without
involving TAC. At that time, I thought bugtool was incredibly poorly
implemented, little did I know that it could get worse, much worse.
Why bugtool bothers me more is that I have software defects more often
than I need to upgrade boxes (new IOS maybe 3-4 times a year, but defects
several per week, as I open case for everything out of ordinary), and
worse come worse I can always email my SE to fetch me latest IOS,
but sucky bugtool is seriously hurting time it takes for me to solve an
issue.

I don't think the bugtool can carry that large amount of data, that it
can't be indexed with modern machine in acceptable time, delivering
instant searches without any qualifiers. The forced qualifying they now
have is annoying, as the bugs are tagged so poorly it makes you miss
them, even choosing just the main train, can lead you off (after you've
waited 20min to get the results).
Also how on earth can the bugs be tagged so poorly, I don't think it
would be large change process or DE effort when fixing a bug, to
give commitID for fix and commitID for the change which caused the
bug, allowing software to give perfect list of affected, non-affected
and fixed IOS'.

So if people are making some stand to CSCO about download manager,
it would be nice to include bugtool in the cry also.


I guess cisco-nsp has become a soapbox for catharsis in regards to Cisco - 
but everyone should realize that is about all it is.  Cisco has no 
interest in fixing their download or bugtool problems.  It is a simple 
matter of cost cutting and budgets and taking the cheapest offer or hiring 
the cheapest labor.


So keep filling out those feedback forms and calling your Cisco bigwig 
friends.  If that makes you feel any better, go for it.  Me - I've moved 
on as many others have.


Regards,
Hank
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-15 Thread Christopher E. Brown
Gert Doering wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 08:58:53PM -0800, Christopher E. Brown wrote:
 Come on guys, study the proto a little before going off.
 
 We did...
 
 In order for MST to work all members of an MST domain *MUST* agree on
 the VLAN - MST group mapping.

 If you change the mapping it must update across all members of the domain.

 YOU ARE REDEFINING THE STP TOPOLOGY
 
 ... and that's just not workable for Real Networks that undergo daily 
 changes, and have wildly differing VLAN topologies.  Especially the latter
 one (due to traffic reasons, we have to move the STP active link for
 VLAN 714 to *this* trunk).
 
 gert

Exactly, MST only applies when you can group the vlans _long term_, and
this only happens when individual VLANs are a small percentage of
traffic.  The traffic routing ability is linited to the _group_.


If this does not apply, the a per vlan variant is needed.


I use both, complex large flow per vlan is rapid per vlan, bulk
distribution domains are MST with pre-assigned use per group.
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 80, Issue 49

2009-07-15 Thread Digambar. Giri
DEar frend

i need a crak... IPswitch Whatsup gold 11

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Matlock, Kenneth L matlo...@exempla.orgwrote:

 The serial numbers can be found here:

 http://www.whatsupgold.com/


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3. Re: multiple vlans on a port (Gert Doering)
4. Re: Block URL ACCESS LIST (mas...@nexlinx.net.pk)
5. Re: IPv6 iBGP Route Reflector (Steve Bertrand)
6. Re: ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover (Forrest, Michael E.)
7. Re: ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover (a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk)
8. Re: Maximum spannig tree instances (Geoffrey Pendery)
 
 
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  Message: 1
  Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:56:48 +0200
  From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
  To: Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk
  Cc: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net,Jared Mauch
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  Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Area is Unavailable at this
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  Message-ID: 20090714085648.gd...@greenie.muc.de
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
  Hi,
 
  On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:16:23AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote:
   But can I just make a recommendation to everyone here: next time you
 go
   out to competitive tender, specify the nature of docs  software
   availability. List HTTP downloads without client software or
 plugins
   as a mandatory requirement.
 
  While this is a nice idea to cause some pressure, I can't see it as
  overly realistic - if I have a router A that will fulfill everything
  that we need, and a router B that will only do 80% and at the same
  time costs 20% more, but has a better company web interface, I think
 it's
  very unlikely that their web download thingie will be change our
  decision.
 
  (Besides, most competitors web sites and software download processes
 are
  even worse)
 
  gert
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  Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:48:52 +0300
  From: Mohammad Khalil eng_m...@hotmail.com
  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Subject: [c-nsp] Block URL ACCESS LIST
  Message-ID: blu102-w20d319d228a429d7f5b1f9fa...@phx.gbl
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256
 
 
  how can i block url using access-list ?
 
  _
  Drag n? drop?Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live? Photos.
 
  http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx
 
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  Message: 3
  Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:49:11 +0200
  From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
  To: Matthew Huff mh...@ox.com
  Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Subject: Re: [c-nsp] multiple vlans on a port
  Message-ID: 20090714094911.gh...@greenie.muc.de
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
  Hi,
 
  On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 06:38:23PM -0400, Matthew Huff wrote:
   Also, with 802.1q framing, you might run into fragmentation on
   the non-native VLANs. You may want to adjust the MTU on the virtual
   machines if Linux doesn't do it automatically.
 
  There are a few broken NIC cards on the Linux side that have issues
  with baby-jumbo packets (1500 + 4 byte for 802.1q header).  Decent
  gear - and that's what you want to use on a 

Re: [c-nsp] c877 and ntp oddness

2009-07-15 Thread Christian Zeng
Hi,

* David Freedman david.freed...@uk.clara.net wrote:
Have a bizarre NTP issue with 877 routers running 12.4(T) train.

- Only seems to affect a small percentage of 877 routers,
878s, 1800s , 2800s seem to be fine

A coworker reported the exact same behavior a couple of weeks ago. They
got 87x routers with a new hardware revision, these routers do not sync
with ntp anymore. TAC case is open, but nothing concrete so far.


Christian
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[c-nsp] Block https

2009-07-15 Thread Mohammad Khalil



I want to block the url https://www.facebook.com


Without using NBAR 

Using access-lists ??

And if I want to block based on the IP address it has a lot
of IP addresses ( i dont want to block a whole class)


And the cache only blocks based on HTTP port 80


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Re: [c-nsp] Block https

2009-07-15 Thread Kevin Barrass
Hi

One I used a while ago to test was the below

ip urlfilter allow-mode on
ip urlfilter exclusive-domain deny www.theregister.co.uk

is a while since ive used this but you can check the Cisco Docs for the ip 
urlfilter feature, if you want to block based on IP just use access lists as 
normal to block traffic to that IP.

Regards
Kev

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Subject: [c-nsp] Block https




I want to block the url https://www.facebook.com


Without using NBAR 

Using access-lists ??

And if I want to block based on the IP address it has a lot
of IP addresses ( i dont want to block a whole class)


And the cache only blocks based on HTTP port 80


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Re: [c-nsp] Where to buy What's Up Gold

2009-07-15 Thread Peter Rathlev
Maybe not crack, but it might work: http://www.clubsmokey.nl/.

Listen kid, your question is clearly not on topic here even though it
does have some entertainment value. You make yourself look like a stupid
11 year old kid. If you really want to use What's Up Gold then go to
http://www.whatsupgold.com/online-shop/ and see if you can figure out
how it works.

You should also seriously consider the consequences of posting questions
like these to a public mailing list with your real name. It is standard
practice for potential employers to e.g. google your name before hiring
you.

Regards,
Peter


On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 12:54 +0530, Digambar. Giri wrote:
 DEar frend
 
 i need a crak... IPswitch Whatsup gold 11
 
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Matlock, Kenneth L 
 matlo...@exempla.orgwrote:
 
  The serial numbers can be found here:
 
  http://www.whatsupgold.com/
 
 
  Ken Matlock
  Network Analyst
  Exempla Healthcare
  (303) 467-4671
  matlo...@exempla.org
 
 
 
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  [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Digambar. Giri
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  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
   Subject: Re: [c-nsp] cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 80, Issue 49
 
  Dear friends
  please provide IPswitch Whatsup gold 11 serial key NMs...
 
 
...
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Re: [c-nsp] MST config on single 3560

2009-07-15 Thread Manu Chao
the standard is ieee 802.1s

don't change anything to your interface config
mst instance and vlan association is a global config

if you planned to migrate to mst on your side, make sure you will migrate to
mst with your client ;)

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:57 AM, m...@adv.gcomm.com.au wrote:

 Hi,

 We have existing 3560's with multiple trunk ports to clients+upstreams - We
 will go very close to hitting the 128 STP instance limit, therefore MST
 looks to be like an option(Without upgrading the switches).

 The 3560's also have a trunk port to 7200's(For dot1q subints), for clients
 that require L3 connectivity.

 I'm just a little unsure how to group vlans into seperate instances(Or if
 it is entirely necessary?)

 i.e. GE0/1 (From Provider A) has:

 interface GigabitEthernet0/1
 description GIGE_ICAP_INTERNETCONNECT_TO_PROVIDER_A
 switchport trunk allowed vlan
 112,172,208,211,240,309,315,385,537,547,550-552
 switchport trunk allowed vlan add
 554,623,635,687,690,694,696,697,867,879,980
 switchport mode trunk

 These vlan's are allocated by provider and represent individual services -
 These vlans are then either presented on client trunk ports for L2 services,
 or added to trunk port to 7200 for L3 services.

 So as you can see, there is no standard for how the individual vlan's are
 treated, nor which trunk port they may be presented on.hoping someone
 can provide guideance on how best to manage this?

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[c-nsp] Siemens

2009-07-15 Thread Mohammad Khalil

i have siemens wimax cpe (gigaset SX682)

i cannot access the web interface using the default password admin

always prompted its incorrect 

and i need a user manual 

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Re: [c-nsp] Block https

2009-07-15 Thread masood
Man, thts pretty straightforward. all u needed is

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5855/products_configuration_example09186a0080ab4ddb.shtml

if i am remembering correctly, you can block https using proxy/cache
server; If it is Squid thn i can help you.

Regards,
Masood

 Hi

 One I used a while ago to test was the below

 ip urlfilter allow-mode on
 ip urlfilter exclusive-domain deny www.theregister.co.uk

 is a while since ive used this but you can check the Cisco Docs for the ip
 urlfilter feature, if you want to block based on IP just use access lists
 as normal to block traffic to that IP.

 Regards
 Kev

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 [][www.yhman.net.uk]
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 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Block https




 I want to block the url https://www.facebook.com


 Without using NBAR

 Using access-lists ??

 And if I want to block based on the IP address it has a lot
 of IP addresses ( i dont want to block a whole class)


 And the cache only blocks based on HTTP port 80


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Re: [c-nsp] c877 and ntp oddness

2009-07-15 Thread David Freedman
Would you mind sharing the tac SR with me? about to open my own and
would help me lots if my request is in sync (pun intended) with yours.

David.

Christian Zeng wrote:
 Hi,
 
 * David Freedman david.freed...@uk.clara.net wrote:
 Have a bizarre NTP issue with 877 routers running 12.4(T) train.

 - Only seems to affect a small percentage of 877 routers,
 878s, 1800s , 2800s seem to be fine
 
 A coworker reported the exact same behavior a couple of weeks ago. They
 got 87x routers with a new hardware revision, these routers do not sync
 with ntp anymore. TAC case is open, but nothing concrete so far.
 
 
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Re: [c-nsp] cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 80, Issue 49

2009-07-15 Thread Matlock, Kenneth L
A few things.
 
1) I'm not your 'friend'. My friends actually PAY for what they use, not try 
outright theft (and advertise it on a public forum!)
2) This has nothing to do with Cisco equipment
3) If you want a monitoring package, I'd suggest either paying for it, or using 
one of the many open-source packages out there. Look through the archives and 
you'll find plenty of dicsussions about them.
 
Some people's kids.
 
Ken Matlock
Network Analyst
Exempla Healthcare
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 Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Software Download Area is Unavailable at this time
  (Gert Doering)
   2. Block URL ACCESS LIST (Mohammad Khalil)
   3. Re: multiple vlans on a port (Gert Doering)
   4. Re: Block URL ACCESS LIST (mas...@nexlinx.net.pk)
   5. Re: IPv6 iBGP Route Reflector (Steve Bertrand)
   6. Re: ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover (Forrest, Michael E.)
   7. Re: ASA IPsec Tunnel Failover (a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk)
   8. Re: Maximum spannig tree instances (Geoffrey Pendery)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:56:48 +0200
 From: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de
 To: Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk
 Cc: Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net,Jared Mauch
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 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Software Download Area is Unavailable at this
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 Hi,

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:16:23AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote:
  But can I just make a recommendation to everyone here: next time you
go
  out to competitive tender, specify the nature of docs  software
  availability. List HTTP downloads without client software or
plugins
  as a mandatory requirement.

 While this is a nice idea to cause some pressure, I can't see it as
 overly realistic - if I have a router A that will fulfill everything
 that we need, and a router B that will only do 80% and at the same
 time costs 20% more, but has a better company web interface, I think
it's
 very unlikely that their web download thingie will be change our
 decision.

 (Besides, most competitors web sites and software download processes
are
 even worse)

 gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Block https

2009-07-15 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
You cannot block HTTPS on the router with anything but the IP-based access
lists because (by definition) the HTTP request (which the URL filter,
content filter or NBAR recognizing HTTP uses) is encrypted.

If you want to block HTTPS requests for particular hosts, you need a HTTP
proxy which intercepts the CONNECT requests and allows/denies them. You
could force the users to go through a proxy by blocking direct Internet
access for ports 80 through 443.

However, to block HTTPS access to Facebook, the easiest thing to do is this:

* do a DNS lookup for www.facebook.com
* do a WHOIS query for the IP address
* at the moment facebook does not use distributed CDN, so the IP address is
within the IP address range allocated to Facebook Inc.
* block the whole address range assigned to them.

... And keep in mind that this is a whack-a-mole game ;)
Ivan
 
http://www.ioshints.info/about
http://blog.ioshints.info/

 -Original Message-
 From: mas...@nexlinx.net.pk [mailto:mas...@nexlinx.net.pk] 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:03 PM
 To: Kevin Barrass
 Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Block https
 
 Man, thts pretty straightforward. all u needed is
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5855/products_configurat
 ion_example09186a0080ab4ddb.shtml
 
 if i am remembering correctly, you can block https using 
 proxy/cache server; If it is Squid thn i can help you.
 
 Regards,
 Masood
 
  Hi
 
  One I used a while ago to test was the below
 
  ip urlfilter allow-mode on
  ip urlfilter exclusive-domain deny www.theregister.co.uk
 
  is a while since ive used this but you can check the Cisco Docs for 
  the ip urlfilter feature, if you want to block based on IP just use 
  access lists as normal to block traffic to that IP.
 
  Regards
  Kev
 
  
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  Subject: [c-nsp] Block https
 
 
 
 
  I want to block the url https://www.facebook.com
 
 
  Without using NBAR
 
  Using access-lists ??
 
  And if I want to block based on the IP address it has a lot of IP 
  addresses ( i dont want to block a whole class)
 
 
  And the cache only blocks based on HTTP port 80
 
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-15 Thread Tomas Daniska

 
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:45 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
  Hi,
 
  ... but it doesn't say anything about the number of STP instances.
 
  things go wonky when you have more than 1800 virtualports per slot
  (which you didnt quite reach) (1200 on older eg 100mbit blades)
  with 13,000 in total (PVST+), 10,000 in total (RPVST+)
 

As a matter of coincidence, I've been in talks recently with our local
Cisco SEs for some 6k5/3750E design, mostly discussing RSTP vs MST. I
have asked about the 1800 virtual ports per blade limit and they say
this only applies to 61xx and 63xx cards - the 65xx and 67xx have no
such limit. There is a ddts that a message errorneously warning of
exceeding 1800 virtual ports on a 67xx is removed since SXI (or SXI1 it
was).



Re MST vs RSTP... the worst case in MST for us is that once you get any
tiny irregularity on a port, it gets to interoperability mode, which
means the port is calculated against CIST (MST0). And then, any issue or
TCN you have, everything gets propagated to all remaining instances,
causing MAC table flushes and other nice stuff for the *whole*
infrastructure.

We had an idea of having two independent MST domains interconnected by a
(VSS/Multichassis Etherchannel) trunk, so we could have STP events
contained within a single physical location. But with respect to
abovewritten the trunk would be in the interop mode, amplyfing all
events instead of separating the domains. We could have had BPDU filter
to solve this on the trunk, but obviously would lose loop prevention
because of that.

And not speaking of MST experience we had building a large-scale Metro
Ethernet network, with many access rings. We have repeatedly seen BPDUs
transported via EoMPLS pseudowires in 3750ME based rings causing NNI
trunks (running MST) get into P2P Edge mode and thus bringing the whole
ring down. Yes, this is more due to the pretty weird MPLS implementation
on the 3750ME, but nicely showing MST weaknesses...


So far, MST hase become a no-go for us unless there's a *very* strong
scaling requirement.


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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-15 Thread Geoffrey Pendery
Well sure, I'm aware of the logic behind the behavior - I'm not saying
it's a bug.  But the result is that it is a good choice protocol for a
very specific scenario, while RPVST is a much superior choice for
certain other scenarios.

So having been provided with a lovely open standard car and a
proprietary boat, we're understandably vexed to be told we must cross
the ocean in cars - since they're open standard.


-Geoff


On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Christopher E.
Brownchris.br...@acsalaska.net wrote:
 Tim Durack wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Geoffrey Pendery ge...@pendery.net wrote:

 Will adding new VLANs to an MST instance disrupt traffic flow for other
 VLANs in that MST instance?
 Yes.  We've verified this.
 A trunk port carrying only VLAN 30, or even an access port carrying
 only VLAN 30.
 VLAN 30 is in instance 2.  You go into config mode and add VLAN 50 to
 instance 2 (or remove it from instance 2)
 The port, be it access or trunk, goes to blocking, learning, forwarding.


 ...and if that doesn't make you nervous, you probably shouldn't be running
 spanning-tree...

 Tim:
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 Come on guys, study the proto a little before going off.



 In order for MST to work all members of an MST domain *MUST* agree on
 the VLAN - MST group mapping.


 If you change the mapping it must update across all members of the domain.

 YOU ARE REDEFINING THE STP TOPOLOGY


 _Pick a topology_


 MST group pre-assign...


 0       VLAN 1
 1       VLAN 2-999
 2       VLAN 1000-1999
 3       VLAN 2000-2999
 4       VLAN 3000-3999
 5       VLAN 4000-4094


 Or whatever grouping youl want, even/odd, by hundreds, whatever.



 You are now free to pick a different root and set link costs for each of
 the groups independent of the others, just like pvst but by group.


 If you *cannot* manage vlans by group, then stick with a rapid per vlan
 variant.


 If you need to move vlans in bulk across the core, and can afford to
 pre-assign membership in the group then MST can be lower overhead.


 The only real rules here

 Leave group zero for vlan one *only*

 If you have to change the base MST config more than once a year you are
 not planning correctly, or you should not be using MST.




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Re: [c-nsp] 7206VXR BGP Sessions

2009-07-15 Thread Rodney Dunn
Default timers...several hundred will be ok.

You get in trouble when you try to bring the timers down less than say 20/60.

We introduced a new scheduler to handle hellos for the peers that allows
them to work at smaller intervals but it can't guarantee no false positives.

Rodney

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 06:54:47PM -0400, Paul Stewart wrote:
 Hi there.
 
  
 
 I need to move several hundred BGP sessions (low traffic peers, about 500
 Mb/s combined) over to another box - have a 7206VXR with NPE1G and a 7206VXR
 with NPE2G sitting spare at moment.  
 
  
 
 How many sessions/traffic should the 1G and the 2G be able to handle
 approximately?
 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 
 Paul
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [c-nsp] WAAS and minimum latency

2009-07-15 Thread James Michael Keller

Tim,

I doubt you will see improvement over 3ms for general latency reduction 
(assuming a OCX P-t-P link?).  However it will improve CIFS performance 
if the files are being accessed and changed a lot by the users at the 
site remote from the CIFS server.   The WAE on the server side of the 
link will cache operations locally.   So say you move a file between 
CIFS shares, normally that comes back through the client and back down 
to another share.With the WAE unit it will proxy that operation and 
the operation completes at local LAN speed instead of WAN speed through 
the remote client and back to the other server.   While WAE's will 
fiddle with TCP settings to improve some performance, the main function 
in the current release code is the data reduction features.  Either the 
raw DRE caches or application level proxies (CIFS/MAPI,NFS, etc).   
Latency may not improve, but effective speed and bandwidth will go up.


For our MPLS connected sites in the 50ms+ range, there is some 
improvement of the RTT of around 40% on average across all the sites.
Traffic reduction runs an average of 30% with Content and version 
management protocols and CIFS/MAPI making up the bulk of the traffic 
reduction (all above 50%) .  The main non-optimized traffic is internet 
bound in our case, as we centrally route internet out a data center from 
the MPLS connected sites.


---
James Michael Keller



Tim Durack wrote:

Anyone got figures on the *minimum* latency the various WAN accelerators can
improve on?

I ask as I have a customer with a couple of sites connected via GigE. RTT
for SiteA - SiteB is around 3ms. Migrating services between sites has
reduced performance for some users (appears that SMB/CIFS is most affected.)

I'm looking to see if I can fix things with WAAS, just not sure they are
really designed for this scenario (I'm not a fan of WAAS, but if it fixes a
problem...)

Thanks,

Tim:
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Re: [c-nsp] Give Cisco your feedback on the new download experience at tacwebsur...@cisco.com (was: several heart-felt flames regarding the mess that is the Cisco.com download experience)

2009-07-15 Thread Tony Varriale

Interesting comment.

I stopped giving feedback a long time ago when they did the first major 
trainwreck of cisco.com.


tv
- Original Message - 
From: Hank Nussbacher h...@efes.iucc.ac.il

To: Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Give Cisco your feedback on the new download experience 
at tacwebsur...@cisco.com (was: several heart-felt flames regarding the mess 
that is the Cisco.com download experience)



I guess cisco-nsp has become a soapbox for catharsis in regards to Cisco - 
but everyone should realize that is about all it is.  Cisco has no 
interest in fixing their download or bugtool problems.  It is a simple 
matter of cost cutting and budgets and taking the cheapest offer or hiring 
the cheapest labor.


So keep filling out those feedback forms and calling your Cisco bigwig 
friends.  If that makes you feel any better, go for it.  Me - I've moved 
on as many others have.


Regards,
Hank
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Re: [c-nsp] SA-VAM NPE-200

2009-07-15 Thread Ge Moua
I've done this before; this will work but Cisco will not give you 
support if there are issues;also the VAM combo with this router engine 
results in very llittle throughput; not worth it IMHO.


Regards,
Ge Moua | Email: moua0...@umn.edu

Network Design Engineer
University of Minnesota | Networking  Telecommunications Services




Kris Amy wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering if this combination works. The documentation says a NPE225 is 
required however i'm wondering if that is just a warning or an actual 
requirement...

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[c-nsp] MLPPP throughput

2009-07-15 Thread Dave Weis


I'm bringing up a MLPPP PPPoA bundle with 4 7-meg DSL lines. It had worked 
fine with only 2 lines in the bundle and provided the full expected speed. 
Adding the next two lines didn't provide an increase in speed, it actually 
might have decreased a bit. It tops out at around 10 megabits with 4 links 
in the bundle.


The hardware on the customer side is a 3745 running 12.4(4)T1. It has 4 
WIC-1ADSL's installed. The config on the ADSL interfaces are all 
identical:


interface ATM0/0
 no ip address
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 dsl operating-mode auto
 hold-queue 224 in
 pvc 0/32
  encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer
  dialer pool-member 1
 !

interface Dialer0
 ip address negotiated
 no ip proxy-arp
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool 1
 dialer vpdn
 dialer-group 1
 ppp pap sent-username removed
 ppp link reorders
 ppp multilink
 ppp multilink fragment disable
!

We've tried it with and without the reorders and fragment changes in the 
config.


The server side is a 7206 with an NPE-G1. We're not topping out the 
processor on either side during transfers.


The multilink bundle shows a lot of discards and reorders. This is after a 
reset and downloading less than a gig of data on the client:


Virtual-Access3, bundle name is isprouter
  Endpoint discriminator is isprouter
  Bundle up for 01:15:43, total bandwidth 40, load 1/255
  Receive buffer limit 48768 bytes, frag timeout 1000 ms
  Using relaxed lost fragment detection algorithm.
  Dialer interface is Dialer0
0/0 fragments/bytes in reassembly list
242 lost fragments, 1237543 reordered
29169/15194784 discarded fragments/bytes, 16700 lost received
0x1F9178 received sequence, 0x6A517 sent sequence
  Member links: 4 (max not set, min not set)
Vi4, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM0/0
Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
Vi6, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM1/0
Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
Vi5, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM0/2
Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
Vi2, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM0/1
Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
No inactive multilink interfaces


Any ideas to get this closer to 20+ megs?

THanks
dave




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Re: [c-nsp] WAAS and minimum latency

2009-07-15 Thread Eric Girard
Tim,
While in theory you should still see some improvement from CIFS with a 
setup like this, I've done a PoC/trial with a near identical setup, 1G/3-4ms 
latency, and the performance improvements where minimal at best.  The one 
caveat was the CIFS shares were being used by a questionable financial 
application and the average filesize was small, but in the end, the 
price/performance was impossible to justify given the size of WAE needed to 
handle that much traffic.
In the more 'traditional' WAAS space above ~20ms of latency I've had 
great results every time.

Eric Girard

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From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net 
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of James Michael Keller
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:41 AM
To: Tim Durack
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] WAAS and minimum latency

Tim,

I doubt you will see improvement over 3ms for general latency reduction
(assuming a OCX P-t-P link?).  However it will improve CIFS performance
if the files are being accessed and changed a lot by the users at the
site remote from the CIFS server.   The WAE on the server side of the
link will cache operations locally.   So say you move a file between
CIFS shares, normally that comes back through the client and back down
to another share.With the WAE unit it will proxy that operation and
the operation completes at local LAN speed instead of WAN speed through
the remote client and back to the other server.   While WAE's will
fiddle with TCP settings to improve some performance, the main function
in the current release code is the data reduction features.  Either the
raw DRE caches or application level proxies (CIFS/MAPI,NFS, etc).
Latency may not improve, but effective speed and bandwidth will go up.

For our MPLS connected sites in the 50ms+ range, there is some
improvement of the RTT of around 40% on average across all the sites.
Traffic reduction runs an average of 30% with Content and version
management protocols and CIFS/MAPI making up the bulk of the traffic
reduction (all above 50%) .  The main non-optimized traffic is internet
bound in our case, as we centrally route internet out a data center from
the MPLS connected sites.

---
James Michael Keller



Tim Durack wrote:
 Anyone got figures on the *minimum* latency the various WAN accelerators can
 improve on?

 I ask as I have a customer with a couple of sites connected via GigE. RTT
 for SiteA - SiteB is around 3ms. Migrating services between sites has
 reduced performance for some users (appears that SMB/CIFS is most affected.)

 I'm looking to see if I can fix things with WAAS, just not sure they are
 really designed for this scenario (I'm not a fan of WAAS, but if it fixes a
 problem...)

 Thanks,

 Tim:
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[c-nsp] Question on h.323 video calls through a PIX 525 with NAT

2009-07-15 Thread Steven Pfister
I'm having some trouble with h.323 (video) calls through a PIX 525 using NAT. 
We can get incoming calls fine, but not outgoing calls for some reason. My 
question has to do with 'inspect h323' vs 'fixup protocol h323'. What's the 
difference between them? The video conferencing unit in question has a NAT 
transversal option where I can supply an address and mask.I'm wondering if I'm 
having a NAT transversal problem anyway. Which one would handle the NAT 
transversal, inspect or fixup? Currently, the PIX config has:

  inspect h323 h225
  inspect h323 ras

do I need:

 fixup protocol h323 h225 1718-1720
 fixup protocol h323 h225 1720
 fixup protocol h323 ras 1718-1719

instead of the inspect commands? In addition to them?

Thanks!


Steve Pfister
Technical Coordinator, 
The Office of Information Technology
Dayton Public Schools
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[c-nsp] Cisco Security Advisory: Vulnerabilities in Unified Contact Center Express Administration Pages

2009-07-15 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Cisco Security Advisory: Vulnerabilities in Unified Contact Center
Express Administration Pages

Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20090715-uccx

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20090715-uccx.shtml

Revision 1.0

For Public Release 2009 July 15 1600 UTC (GMT)

Summary
===

Cisco Unified Contact Center Express (Cisco Unified CCX) server contains
both a directory traversal vulnerability and a script injection
vulnerability in the administration pages of the Customer Response
Solutions (CRS) and Cisco Unified IP Interactive Voice Response (Cisco
Unified IP IVR) products. Exploitation of these vulnerabilities could
result in a denial of service condition, information disclosure, or a
privilege escalation attack.

Cisco has released free software updates that address these two
vulnerabilities in the latest version of Cisco Unified CCX software.

This advisory is posted at
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20090715-uccx.shtml.

Affected Products
=

The Cisco Unified Contact Center Express (Cisco Unified CCX) is
a single-server, integrated contact center in a box for use in
deployments with up to 300 agents.

Vulnerable Products
+--

All versions of Cisco Unified CCX server running the following software
may be affected by these vulnerabilities, to include:

  * Cisco Customer Response Solution (CRS) versions 3.x, 4.x, 5.x,
6.x, and 7.x
  * Cisco Unified IP Interactive Voice Response (Cisco Unified IP
IVR) versions 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, and 7.x
  * Cisco Unified CCX 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, and 7.x
  * Cisco Unified IP Contact Center Express versions 3.x, 5.x, 6.x,
and 7.x
  * Cisco Customer Response Applications versions 3.x
  * Cisco IP Queue Manager (IP QM) versions 3.x

Products Confirmed Not Vulnerable
+

No other Cisco products are currently known to be affected by these
vulnerabilities.

Details
===

Cisco Unified Contact Center Express (Cisco Unified CCX) servers may
be affected by both a directory traversal vulnerability and a script
injection vulnerability.

The directory traversal vulnerability may allow authenticated users to
view, modify, or delete any file on the server through the Customer
Response Solutions (CRS) Administration interface. This vulnerability
is documented in Cisco Bug ID CSCsw76644 and has been assigned Common
Vulnerability and Exposures (CVE) ID CVE-2009-2047.

The script injection vulnerability may allow authenticated users to
enter JavaScript into the Cisco Unified CCX database. The stored script
could be executed in the browser of the next authenticated user. This
vulnerability is documented in Cisco Bug ID CSCsw76649 and has been
assigned CVE ID CVE-2009-2048.

Vulnerability Scoring Details
=

Cisco has provided scores for the vulnerabilities in this advisory based
on the Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS). The CVSS scoring in
this Security Advisory is done in accordance with CVSS version 2.0.

CVSS is a standards-based scoring method that conveys vulnerability
severity and helps determine urgency and priority of response.

Cisco has provided a base and temporal score. Customers can then
compute environmental scores to assist in determining the impact of the
vulnerability in individual networks.

Cisco has provided an FAQ to answer additional questions regarding CVSS
at:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/intelligence/cvss-qandas.html

Cisco has also provided a CVSS calculator to help compute the
environmental impact for individual networks at:

http://intellishield.cisco.com/security/alertmanager/cvss.

* Incomplete input validation allows modification of OS
files/directories (CSCsw76644)

CVSS Base Score - 9.0
Access Vector -Network
Access Complexity -Low
Authentication -   Single
Confidentiality Impact -   Complete
Integrity Impact - Complete
Availability Impact -  Complete

CVSS Temporal Score - 8.7
Exploitability -   Functional
Remediation Level -Official-Fix
Report Confidence -Confirmed

* script injection vulnerability in admin interface pages (CSCsw76649)

CVSS Base Score - 5.5
Access Vector -Network
Access Complexity -Low
Authentication -   Single
Confidentiality Impact -   None
Integrity Impact - Partial
Availability Impact -  Partial

CVSS Temporal Score - 4.5
Exploitability -   Functional
Remediation Level -Official-Fix
Report Confidence -Confirmed


Impact
==

Successful exploitation of the directory traversal vulnerability may
result in read and write access to files on the underlying operating
system.

Successful exploitation of the script injection vulnerability may result
in the execution of JavaScript of authenticated users and prevent server
pages from displaying properly.

Software

Re: [c-nsp] IGMP snooping ME6500

2009-07-15 Thread Adrian Minta

Tim Stevenson wrote:
Ok - if you have mrouter ports being learned, then the upstream router 
should be sending IGMP queries already  IGMP snooping querier is not 
required.


You may want to check the igmp snooping stats  see what type of joins 
etc are being seen on 1/26. Also what is the downstream switch doing 
from a snooping standpoint?


Probably you should just open a case w/TAC to get to the bottom of 
this one.

Tim

At 12:01 PM 7/13/2009, Adrian Minta asserted:



Thank you all ! I think I will start this process.

--
Best regards,
Adrian Minta


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[c-nsp] BGP router-id - Chaos?

2009-07-15 Thread Jeff Cartier
Just checking something that I haven't been able to verify online...

 

Changing the bgp router-id manually will require you to clear the bgp
sessions?  Correct?

 

Thanks!!!

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Re: [c-nsp] Free NMS Tools

2009-07-15 Thread M Callahan
We're currently using Cacti, Nagios, and RANCID in an ISP environment.
Nagios is a bit bulky when it comes to the management side of things but I
highly recomend both RANCID and Cacti.  Depending on your knowledge level
with *nix systems, CactiEZ is also available.  The EZ version is a
CentOS-based pre-loaded iso.

Mike
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP router-id - Chaos?

2009-07-15 Thread Paul G. Timmins
As far as I know, changing the router ID will take care of clearing the
BGP tables for you. :) It should reset all sessions.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Cartier
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:49 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP router-id - Chaos?

Just checking something that I haven't been able to verify online...

 

Changing the bgp router-id manually will require you to clear the bgp
sessions?  Correct?

 

Thanks!!!

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Re: [c-nsp] Question on h.323 video calls through a PIX 525 with NAT

2009-07-15 Thread Andrew Yourtchenko
Hi Steven,

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Steven Pfisterspfis...@dps.k12.oh.us wrote:
 I'm having some trouble with h.323 (video) calls through a PIX 525 using NAT. 
 We can get incoming calls fine, but not outgoing calls for some reason. My 
 question has to do with 'inspect h323' vs 'fixup protocol h323'. What's the 
 difference between them? The video conferencing unit in question has a NAT 
 transversal option where I can supply an address and mask.I'm wondering if 
 I'm having a NAT transversal problem anyway. Which one would handle the NAT 
 transversal, inspect or fixup? Currently, the PIX config has:

  inspect h323 h225
  inspect h323 ras

 do I need:

  fixup protocol h323 h225 1718-1720
  fixup protocol h323 h225 1720
  fixup protocol h323 ras 1718-1719

 instead of the inspect commands? In addition to them?


inspect is the name of the fixup from 7.0 onwards - obviously as
time went, some more enhancements were added.

you can enter the fixup commands, but they will be autoconverted
into the respective inspect under magic default policy.

You mention that the inbound call works - so a nice way to debug would
be to grab the pcap on inside+ pcap on the outside and study them in
wireshark for both failing and working scenarios and see what is
different.

The first cutover point is whether you see the tcp/1720 in the
outbound direction or not - if not, or if it is going to the wrong
address, would mean there is an issue related to RAS signaling - else
it's something with the call signaling.

The above can be tested much easier if you are able to make the direct
calls by IP address and the other party can accept such calls without
involving RAS at all - this could be an easy shortcut instead of
staring at the sniffer traces :-) - if the direct call using IP
address works, then you can further investigate RAS. If the inbound
calls to you work, most probably it is going to be the case, but worth
doublechecking.

The inspect in the default configuration normally should be able to
tweak all the embedded IPs both for RAS and call setup, so the
endpoints would not need to have any NAT awareness nor do any special
efforts to detect/traverse the NAT.

Also might be quite useful to have a quick test with another h323
stack if you can - openh323 had a very tweakable client, and ekiga can
do h323 video as well. If those work, again you get one more baseline
to compare the sniffer traces with.

cheers,
andrew
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Re: [c-nsp] BGP router-id - Chaos?

2009-07-15 Thread Jeff Cartier
Oh that's lovely :)  Thanks for the heads up all!

-Original Message-
From: Paul G. Timmins [mailto:ptimm...@clearrate.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:06 PM
To: Jeff Cartier; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] BGP router-id - Chaos?

As far as I know, changing the router ID will take care of clearing the
BGP tables for you. :) It should reset all sessions.

-Original Message-
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Cartier
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:49 PM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP router-id - Chaos?

Just checking something that I haven't been able to verify online...

 

Changing the bgp router-id manually will require you to clear the bgp
sessions?  Correct?

 

Thanks!!!

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[c-nsp] IPV6 to IPV4

2009-07-15 Thread Chintan Shah
Hi,

The IPV6 host has to communicate to some IPV4 on Internet, I can use NAT-PT
one but I see that it is now no more recommended.

So, what is best translation mechanism achieve this when I being ISP provide
IPV6 Internet service to my customer?

 Regards,

CS
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Re: [c-nsp] CE routes

2009-07-15 Thread harbor235
I see, PE to CE routing protocols are segmented from PE to P routing
protocols. So for PE to PE traffic,
the ingress LSR only needs to know how to route to the egress PE router via
IGP label, once there the VPN label   forwards traffic to the proper VRF.
The next -hop for the desination route comes into play once at the egress
PE?

Mike



On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Ivan Pepelnjak i...@ioshints.info wrote:

 CE-PE subnets are part of VRF and thus cannot be inserted into the core
 IGP,
 only in MP-BGP. It's way easier (and more scalable) to redistribute them
 than to list them in the per-VRF BGP configuration.

 Ivan

 http://www.ioshints.info/about
 http://blog.ioshints.info/

  -Original Message-
  From: harbor235 [mailto:harbor...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:51 PM
  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Subject: [c-nsp] CE routes
 
  I was just reading best practices for MPLS implementations
  regarding CE to CE connectivity issues, specifically, CE to
  CE pings. The document stated that redistributing connected
  PE routes into BGP was the preferred method to ensure CE to
  CE ping success as well as other connectivity issues. This
  will inject the route for the PE to CE interface into BGP.I
  am not sure I agree,  why not explicitly define which
  networks to advertise in the IGP, an IGP in MPLS networks is
  supposed to hold all infrastructure routes anyway. Are these
  interfaces considered infrstructure or customer interfaces?
  One reason may be to reduce the number of infrastructure
  routes in the IGP because of the potential for many CE to PE
  interfaces, let BGP handle the large number of routes?
 
  I am curious which method is employed in the wild, also I am
  not sure all connected routes should be advertised from the
  PE, e.g. management/infrastructure interfaces etc ...
 
  What are your thoughts and how is it being done?
 
  mike
 
 


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Re: [c-nsp] Question on h.323 video calls through a PIX 525 with NAT

2009-07-15 Thread Andy Litzinger
I don't think you can have the inspect and fixup in the same config.  I believe 
the inspection policies replace the fixup commands in the 7.x+ code.

either one pretty much does the same thing- its going into the packet and 
rewriting the IP in the h323 data payload (if necessary).

we had some issues with this behaviour and ended up disabling the h323 
inspection and turning on the NAT traversal option of the device and things 
worked great for us.  YMMV.  Obviously you'll want to make sure you don't have 
any other h323 device traffic that would be affected by this change.

-andy


From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On 
Behalf Of Steven Pfister [spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:28 AM
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Question on h.323 video calls through a PIX 525 with NAT

I'm having some trouble with h.323 (video) calls through a PIX 525 using NAT. 
We can get incoming calls fine, but not outgoing calls for some reason. My 
question has to do with 'inspect h323' vs 'fixup protocol h323'. What's the 
difference between them? The video conferencing unit in question has a NAT 
transversal option where I can supply an address and mask.I'm wondering if I'm 
having a NAT transversal problem anyway. Which one would handle the NAT 
transversal, inspect or fixup? Currently, the PIX config has:

  inspect h323 h225
  inspect h323 ras

do I need:

 fixup protocol h323 h225 1718-1720
 fixup protocol h323 h225 1720
 fixup protocol h323 ras 1718-1719

instead of the inspect commands? In addition to them?

Thanks!


Steve Pfister
Technical Coordinator,
The Office of Information Technology
Dayton Public Schools
115 S. Ludlow St.
Dayton, OH 45402

Office (937) 542-3149
Cell (937) 673-6779
Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us


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Re: [c-nsp] BGP router-id - Chaos?

2009-07-15 Thread Shimol Shah ( Cisco )

I tried in my lab with two boxes

28xx-76xx

28xx is running 12.4(15)T9
76xx is running 12.2(33)SRB6
eBGP between the boxes.

I changed the route-id manually on 28xx


2800#sh ip bgp sum
BGP router identifier 10.10.10.1, local AS number 1020
BGP table version is 1, main routing table version 1

NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down 
State/PfxRcd

2.2.2.2 4  1021  14  16100 00:01:460
10.10.10.2  4  1021  14  16100 00:01:340
2800#
2800#
2800#sh run | s bgp
router bgp 1020
 no synchronization
 bgp router-id 10.10.10.1
 bgp log-neighbor-changes
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 1021
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 ebgp-multihop 10
 neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 10.10.10.2 remote-as 1021
 no auto-summary
2800#
2800#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
2800(config)#
2800(config)#router bgp 1020
2800(config-router)#bgp rout
2800(config-router)#bgp router-id 1.1.1.1
2800(config-router)#end
2800#
*Jul 15 14:11:21.199 EST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 2.2.2.2 Down Router 
ID changed
*Jul 15 14:11:21.199 EST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.10.10.2 Down 
Router ID changed
*Jul 15 14:11:21.211 EST: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by 
console

*Jul 15 14:11:21.239 EST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 2.2.2.2 Up
*Jul 15 14:11:21.251 EST: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.10.10.2 Up
2800#

0#
2800#sh ip bgp sum
BGP router identifier 1.1.1.1, local AS number 1020
BGP table version is 1, main routing table version 1

NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down 
State/PfxRcd

2.2.2.2 4  1021  17  21100 00:00:280
10.10.10.2  4  1021  17  21100 00:00:280
2800#


I then tried in on 7600



7600#sh ip bgp sum
Load for five secs: 0%/0%; one minute: 3%; five minutes: 2%
Time source is hardware calendar, *18:13:06.279 EST Wed Jul 15 2009
BGP router identifier 10.10.10.2, local AS number 1021
BGP table version is 1, main routing table version 1

NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down 
State/PfxRcd

1.1.1.1 4  1020   4   3100 00:00:060
10.10.10.1  4  1020   4   3100 00:00:060
7600#
7600#
7600#sh run | b router bgp
router bgp 1021
 no synchronization
 bgp router-id 10.10.10.2
 bgp log-neighbor-changes
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 1020
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 ebgp-multihop 10
 neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0
 neighbor 10.10.10.1 remote-as 1020
 no auto-summary
!
7600#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
7600(config)#router bgp 1021
7600(config-router)#bgp route
7600(config-router)#bgp router-id 2.2.2.2
7600(config-router)#end
7600#
*Jul 15 18:13:34.819: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 1.1.1.1 Down Router ID 
changed
*Jul 15 18:13:34.819: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.10.10.1 Down Router 
ID changed

*Jul 15 18:13:35.475: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
7600#
7600#
7600#
*Jul 15 18:13:50.159: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.10.10.1 Up
7600#
*Jul 15 18:13:53.287: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 1.1.1.1 Up
7600#
7600#sh ip bgp sum
Load for five secs: 1%/0%; one minute: 2%; five minutes: 2%
Time source is hardware calendar, *18:13:57.819 EST Wed Jul 15 2009
BGP router identifier 2.2.2.2, local AS number 1021
BGP table version is 1, main routing table version 1

NeighborVAS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down 
State/PfxRcd

1.1.1.1 4  1020   4   3100 00:00:040
10.10.10.1  4  1020   4   3100 00:00:070
7600#



Hope that helps.

Shimol




Jeff Cartier wrote:

Just checking something that I haven't been able to verify online...

 


Changing the bgp router-id manually will require you to clear the bgp
sessions?  Correct?

 


Thanks!!!

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Re: [c-nsp] Question on h.323 video calls through a PIX 525 with NAT

2009-07-15 Thread Steven Pfister
Yes, tcp/1720 seems to be going to the correct address. The thing I'm wondering 
now is this... I did the capture on the PIX itself on the outside interface. 
I've found at least one spot where the internal address for the unit on our 
side appears. I would have thought the NAT transversal setting on the unit 
itself would have taken care of this before hitting the PIX. And the capture 
being on the outside interface... would it be showing the packets before or 
after inspect has gotten to them. We've got one unit in the same building  as 
the firewall... hopefully I can duplicated the problem on that.

When I first started getting involved with the video conferencing units here, 
we weren't able to dial out until I turned the NAT transversal setting on. Then 
I found out about inspect/fixup and never understood why that setting on the 
unit would be needed if those commands were on the firewall config. Maybe we 
should try it without the inspect? No other h.323 traffic normally goes in or 
out of our network.

Steve Pfister
Technical Coordinator, 
The Office of Information Technology
Dayton Public Schools
115 S. Ludlow St. 
Dayton, OH 45402
 
Office (937) 542-3149
Cell (937) 673-6779
Direct Connect: 137*131747*8
Email spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us


 Andrew Yourtchenko ayour...@gmail.com 7/15/2009 2:07 PM 
Hi Steven,

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Steven Pfisterspfis...@dps.k12.oh.us wrote:
 I'm having some trouble with h.323 (video) calls through a PIX 525 using NAT. 
 We can get incoming calls fine, but not outgoing calls for some reason. My 
 question has to do with 'inspect h323' vs 'fixup protocol h323'. What's the 
 difference between them? The video conferencing unit in question has a NAT 
 transversal option where I can supply an address and mask.I'm wondering if 
 I'm having a NAT transversal problem anyway. Which one would handle the NAT 
 transversal, inspect or fixup? Currently, the PIX config has:

  inspect h323 h225
  inspect h323 ras

 do I need:

  fixup protocol h323 h225 1718-1720
  fixup protocol h323 h225 1720
  fixup protocol h323 ras 1718-1719

 instead of the inspect commands? In addition to them?


inspect is the name of the fixup from 7.0 onwards - obviously as
time went, some more enhancements were added.

you can enter the fixup commands, but they will be autoconverted
into the respective inspect under magic default policy.

You mention that the inbound call works - so a nice way to debug would
be to grab the pcap on inside+ pcap on the outside and study them in
wireshark for both failing and working scenarios and see what is
different.

The first cutover point is whether you see the tcp/1720 in the
outbound direction or not - if not, or if it is going to the wrong
address, would mean there is an issue related to RAS signaling - else
it's something with the call signaling.

The above can be tested much easier if you are able to make the direct
calls by IP address and the other party can accept such calls without
involving RAS at all - this could be an easy shortcut instead of
staring at the sniffer traces :-) - if the direct call using IP
address works, then you can further investigate RAS. If the inbound
calls to you work, most probably it is going to be the case, but worth
doublechecking.

The inspect in the default configuration normally should be able to
tweak all the embedded IPs both for RAS and call setup, so the
endpoints would not need to have any NAT awareness nor do any special
efforts to detect/traverse the NAT.

Also might be quite useful to have a quick test with another h323
stack if you can - openh323 had a very tweakable client, and ekiga can
do h323 video as well. If those work, again you get one more baseline
to compare the sniffer traces with.

cheers,
andrew

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[c-nsp] Management interface on 2950T-24 appears to be dead

2009-07-15 Thread Frank Bulk
Out of the blue the other day I received a NAGIOS alert about a 2950T-24
being down.  I was off-site, so I called over to the onsite tech who
confirmed that traffic was flowing just fine.  When I checked later, I
couldn't ping or telnet to it.  I went onsite today had no response at the
console port, and even when I pressed the mode button on the left to cycle
through speed, duplex, etc, there was no change.  It's like the management
interface totally died.

 

The unit runs off an inverter, so power should not be an issue.

 

Has anyone seen this before?  Can we trust this box anymore?

 

We plan to power-cycle this evening during a maintenance window.  

 

Frank

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Re: [c-nsp] IPV6 to IPV4

2009-07-15 Thread Paul G. Timmins
Dual Stack.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:08 PM
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Subject: [c-nsp] IPV6 to IPV4

Hi,

The IPV6 host has to communicate to some IPV4 on Internet, I can use
NAT-PT
one but I see that it is now no more recommended.

So, what is best translation mechanism achieve this when I being ISP
provide
IPV6 Internet service to my customer?

 Regards,

CS
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Re: [c-nsp] ISIS Mesh group question

2009-07-15 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Ibrahim Abo Zaid  wrote on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 02:47:

 Hi All
 
 I have a question about ISIS mesh groups which is used to reduce LSP
 flooding in full-mesh p2p enviroments , that means we lose redudacny
 for sake of LSP flooding reducation hence it affects forwarding and
 traffic is forced to inactive or interfaces in different groups only .
 
 is that right ?

no, doesn't sound right. mesh-groups only affect LSP flooding within the
area, they don't have an effect of the links when it comes to
SPF/topology, so the final routing table will look the same, whether you
used mesh-groups or not.

oli

P.S: I've never worked with them and haven't looked at it in detail..
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[c-nsp] ip per-packet load-sharing on single interface

2009-07-15 Thread Joe Maimon
ip per-packet load-sharing on single ethernet interface with multiple 
iBGP routes installed to different nodes on that ethernet interface.


Software router, 12.3

Does not seem to be balancing. Is this supposed to work?

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Re: [c-nsp] ip per-packet load-sharing on single interface

2009-07-15 Thread Arie Vayner (avayner)
Joe,

Which platform is it?
Can you share show ip route and show ip cef internal?

Arie

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ip per-packet load-sharing on single ethernet interface with multiple 
iBGP routes installed to different nodes on that ethernet interface.

Software router, 12.3

Does not seem to be balancing. Is this supposed to work?

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Re: [c-nsp] ip per-packet load-sharing on single interface

2009-07-15 Thread Arie Vayner (avayner)
Joe,

Which platform is it?
Can you share show ip route and show ip cef internal?

Arie

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Subject: [c-nsp] ip per-packet load-sharing on single interface

ip per-packet load-sharing on single ethernet interface with multiple 
iBGP routes installed to different nodes on that ethernet interface.

Software router, 12.3

Does not seem to be balancing. Is this supposed to work?

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Re: [c-nsp] ip per-packet load-sharing on single interface

2009-07-15 Thread Joe Maimon

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Raw output sent direct.

Arie Vayner (avayner) wrote:

Joe,

Which platform is it?
Can you share show ip route and show ip cef internal?

Arie

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Subject: [c-nsp] ip per-packet load-sharing on single interface

ip per-packet load-sharing on single ethernet interface with multiple 
iBGP routes installed to different nodes on that ethernet interface.


Software router, 12.3

Does not seem to be balancing. Is this supposed to work?

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Re: [c-nsp] Question on h.323 video calls through a PIX 525 with NAT

2009-07-15 Thread Andrew Yourtchenko
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Steven Pfisterspfis...@dps.k12.oh.us wrote:
 Yes, tcp/1720 seems to be going to the correct address. The thing I'm 
 wondering now is this... I did the capture on the PIX itself on the outside 
 interface. I've found at least one spot where the internal address for the 
 unit on our side appears.

If the rfc1918 address is seen on the outside (presumably in one of
the openLogicalChannel/openLogicalChannelAck exchanges?) - then it
would be a very good reason for the media streams to not reach you
from the remote end.

I would have thought the NAT transversal setting on the unit itself would have 
taken care of this before hitting the PIX. And the capture being on the 
outside interface... would it be showing the packets before or after inspect 
has gotten to them.

capture is in the packet path shortly before putting the packet onto
the low-level driver for transmission. So, it's after all the inspect
work is already don (if we're talking of the inside-outside). For the
outside-inside, it's indeed the opposite - very early in the packet
processing, so before the inspect.

We've got one unit in the same building  as the firewall... hopefully I can 
duplicated the problem on that.

ok. this indeed could be useful too.


 When I first started getting involved with the video conferencing units here, 
 we weren't able to dial out until I turned the NAT transversal setting on. 
 Then I

hmm I thought it was indeed the outbound calls that had difficulties
now ? Or those are two different failures of a different degree ?

Anyway, normally inspect should take care of the translating the
embedded addresses.

found out about inspect/fixup and never understood why that setting on the 
unit would be needed if those commands were on the firewall config. Maybe we 
should try it without the inspect? No other h.323 traffic normally goes in or 
out of our network.

Yes - it's either/or, so if you don't have any other H.323 traffic,
then indeed give nat traversal a shot without the h323 inspects
enabled on the PIX.

cheers,
andrew


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 Andrew Yourtchenko ayour...@gmail.com 7/15/2009 2:07 PM 
 Hi Steven,

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Steven Pfisterspfis...@dps.k12.oh.us wrote:
 I'm having some trouble with h.323 (video) calls through a PIX 525 using 
 NAT. We can get incoming calls fine, but not outgoing calls for some reason. 
 My question has to do with 'inspect h323' vs 'fixup protocol h323'. What's 
 the difference between them? The video conferencing unit in question has a 
 NAT transversal option where I can supply an address and mask.I'm wondering 
 if I'm having a NAT transversal problem anyway. Which one would handle the 
 NAT transversal, inspect or fixup? Currently, the PIX config has:

  inspect h323 h225
  inspect h323 ras

 do I need:

  fixup protocol h323 h225 1718-1720
  fixup protocol h323 h225 1720
  fixup protocol h323 ras 1718-1719

 instead of the inspect commands? In addition to them?


 inspect is the name of the fixup from 7.0 onwards - obviously as
 time went, some more enhancements were added.

 you can enter the fixup commands, but they will be autoconverted
 into the respective inspect under magic default policy.

 You mention that the inbound call works - so a nice way to debug would
 be to grab the pcap on inside+ pcap on the outside and study them in
 wireshark for both failing and working scenarios and see what is
 different.

 The first cutover point is whether you see the tcp/1720 in the
 outbound direction or not - if not, or if it is going to the wrong
 address, would mean there is an issue related to RAS signaling - else
 it's something with the call signaling.

 The above can be tested much easier if you are able to make the direct
 calls by IP address and the other party can accept such calls without
 involving RAS at all - this could be an easy shortcut instead of
 staring at the sniffer traces :-) - if the direct call using IP
 address works, then you can further investigate RAS. If the inbound
 calls to you work, most probably it is going to be the case, but worth
 doublechecking.

 The inspect in the default configuration normally should be able to
 tweak all the embedded IPs both for RAS and call setup, so the
 endpoints would not need to have any NAT awareness nor do any special
 efforts to detect/traverse the NAT.

 Also might be quite useful to have a quick test with another h323
 stack if you can - openh323 had a very tweakable client, and ekiga can
 do h323 video as well. If those work, again you get one more baseline
 to compare the sniffer traces with.

 cheers,
 andrew


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[c-nsp] adding a port forward on a Cisco Pix

2009-07-15 Thread Scott Granados
Hi, so I've started working with the Pix and am trying to forward port 80 
and 443 in from an outside facing address to a 10.x space inside.  I have 
two basic interfaces (outside and inside) and am running Pix 6.3 for 
firmware.


I was thinking the following line would work but wasn't sure if I formatted 
it correctly.


static (outside,inside) tcp general-internet-rtr-svc-nat 80 inside-ip-object 
80 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0


general-internet-rtr-svc-nat is an object group name that contains a 
network-object-host with the outside static IP defined.


Is this more or less correct?  Should I invert the address objects or are 
they in the proper order?  Any basic pointers or pointers to good examples 
would be appreciated.


Thank you
Scott

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Re: [c-nsp] ip per-packet load-sharing on single interface

2009-07-15 Thread Rodney Dunn
Turn on 'ip cef account load per pre'
and send the 'sh ip cef internal' for the prefix you are going towards.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:33:34PM +0200, Arie Vayner (avayner) wrote:
 Joe,
 
 Which platform is it?
 Can you share show ip route and show ip cef internal?
 
 Arie
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 22:29
 To: cisco-nsp
 Subject: [c-nsp] ip per-packet load-sharing on single interface
 
 ip per-packet load-sharing on single ethernet interface with multiple 
 iBGP routes installed to different nodes on that ethernet interface.
 
 Software router, 12.3
 
 Does not seem to be balancing. Is this supposed to work?
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-15 Thread David Hughes


On 14/07/2009, at 11:26 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:





But isn't that the whole point of MST?  Most of what I've read about  
it talks about doing setups where you only have 2 or 3 instances,  
with all your vlans in the 2nd and or 3rd instance.


Yup.  In a DC / Hosting environment it's a must.  Particularly if you  
have large VMWare type clusters where there can be 100's of unique  
vlans that need to be presented to all cluster nodes.  Can't do that  
with any form of Per Vlan STP on top-of-rack or blade-chassis  
switches.  In a classic dual attached L2 access layer there are only  
2 possible paths so 2 MST instances does the job.  Having more STP  
instances than paths to the root bridge adds no value at all.



David
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-15 Thread David Hughes


On 15/07/2009, at 4:01 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:

The cisco examples I saw say to leave MST0 empty and use MST1 and  
MST2 for VLANs.


Good option.  Only non-MST speakers will end up in instance 0.  Spread  
your vlans over instance 1 and 2 (and root those instances  
appropriately) and all will be good.  We use blocks of 50 vlans for  
the load sharing which gives us what we need and keeps the config  
small.


Will adding new VLANs to an MST instance disrupt traffic flow for  
other VLANs in that MST instance?


The topology I have is actually 2 core switches with a bunch of edge  
switches redundantly uplinked to both cores.


Not sure.  We pre-configure the MST vlan mappings (see below) and just  
prune vlans on the trunks.  We run the same MST config on every switch  
in the network and will worry about changing the vlan mappings when we  
have more than 2000 vlans in a single layer 2 domain.  I can't see  
that being a problem for any of the L2's at any of our datacentres for  
a while.  For us, once we got MST in place it's been set-and-forget.   
It's worked flawlessly.


---
spanning-tree mst configuration
instance 1 vlan 1-49, 100-149, 200-249, 300-349, 400-449, 500-549,  
600-649
instance 1 vlan 700-749, 800-849, 900-949, 1000-1049, 1100-1149,  
1200-1249

instance 1 vlan 1300-1349, 1400-1449, 1500-1549, 1600-1649, 1700-1749
instance 1 vlan 1800-1849, 1900-1949
instance 2 vlan 50-99, 150-199, 250-299, 350-399, 450-499, 550-599,  
650-699
instance 2 vlan 750-799, 850-899, 950-999, 1050-1099, 1150-1199,  
1250-1299

instance 2 vlan 1350-1399, 1450-1499, 1550-1599, 1650-1699, 1750-1799
instance 2 vlan 1850-1899, 1950-1999
!
spanning-tree mst 0-1 priority 8192
spanning-tree mst 2 priority 16384
---


Thanks

David
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-15 Thread David Hughes


On 15/07/2009, at 4:22 AM, Geoffrey Pendery wrote:

Will adding new VLANs to an MST instance disrupt traffic flow for  
other

VLANs in that MST instance?


Yes.  We've verified this.
A trunk port carrying only VLAN 30, or even an access port carrying
only VLAN 30.
VLAN 30 is in instance 2.  You go into config mode and add VLAN 50 to
instance 2 (or remove it from instance 2)
The port, be it access or trunk, goes to blocking, learning,  
forwarding.


But MST implements Rapid-STP in each instance (except 0 naturally) so  
even if the config change did recalc the tree it'll be sub-second.   
Not that any STP recalc is a good thing but at least it'll be over and  
done with quickly.



David
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-15 Thread David Hughes


On 15/07/2009, at 8:02 AM, Phil Mayers wrote:


R-PVST + manual VLAN management works like a charm here.


. works like a charm until it doesn't.   Any PV based STP will not  
work in a dense server virtualisation environment.  So these days  
that's basically any hosting provider.  MST is your only choice and if  
you pre-provision your vlan/instance mappings it works fine.  Been  
running it without a single issue for ages.



David
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Re: [c-nsp] MST config on single 3560

2009-07-15 Thread mb

Quoting Manu Chao linux.ya...@gmail.com:


the standard is ieee 802.1s

don't change anything to your interface config
mst instance and vlan association is a global config

if you planned to migrate to mst on your side, make sure you will migrate to
mst with your client ;)



Thanks for the reply.

As we have single 3560's that do not participate in VTP (vtp mode 
transparent), would I be able to have a config similar to this(On each 
3560 in each POP):


spanning-tree mode mst
spanning-tree mst configuration
name LOC_A
revision 10
instance 0 : Vlan 1-4094
spanning-tree mst 0 root primary

And maintain the existing port configs?

If we are getting close to reaching port capacity on each 3560, we will 
be upgrading to 4500's.





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Re: [c-nsp] adding a port forward on a Cisco Pix

2009-07-15 Thread Tony

Hi Scott,

For your NAT to work you need to things:
1. static command
2. Access-list

 static (outside,inside) tcp general-internet-rtr-svc-nat 80 inside-ip-object 
 80 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0

You have it round the wrong way, you would need:

  static (inside,outside) tcp outside_ip outside_port inside_ip inside_port

It's confusing but the bit in brackets (for the interfaces) has inside first 
and outside second and then when you specify the IP addresses and ports you 
have outside first, then inside second.

And then you would need an ACL like this:

  access-list 101 permit tcp any host outside_ip outside_port

And then you need to apply the ACL to inbound traffic on the outside interface:

  access-group 101 in interface outside


I don't know about using object groups to specify the IP addresses, it should 
work as long as you've got it correct. I would try with putting the actual IP 
addresses in the commands and then once you know it works you can change them 
to objects.

You can find a list of PIX configuration examples here:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/vpndevc/ps2030/prod_configuration_examples_list.html
http://tinyurl.com/3o7gk

One specifically for NAT is:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/vpndevc/ps2030/products_tech_note09186a0080094aad.shtml
http://tinyurl.com/yqeap

Make sure you follow which parts are for earlier PIX versions and your version. 
The earlier versions use the conduit command instead of an access list.


regards,
Tony

--- On Thu, 16/7/09, Scott Granados gsgrana...@comcast.net wrote:

 From: Scott Granados gsgrana...@comcast.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] adding a port forward on a Cisco Pix
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Date: Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 7:52 AM
 Hi, so I've started working with the
 Pix and am trying to forward port 80 and 443 in from an
 outside facing address to a 10.x space inside.  I have
 two basic interfaces (outside and inside) and am running Pix
 6.3 for firmware.
 
 I was thinking the following line would work but wasn't
 sure if I formatted it correctly.
 
 static (outside,inside) tcp general-internet-rtr-svc-nat 80
 inside-ip-object 80 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
 
 general-internet-rtr-svc-nat is an object group name that
 contains a network-object-host with the outside static IP
 defined.
 
 Is this more or less correct?  Should I invert the
 address objects or are they in the proper order?  Any
 basic pointers or pointers to good examples would be
 appreciated.
 
 Thank you
 Scott
 



  

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Re: [c-nsp] MLPPP throughput

2009-07-15 Thread Rodney Dunn
I bet your out of order is getting so bad you are dropping the packets.

I'm not a PPPox expert...but could you create 7 dialers and do CEF
per packet over them?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:07:24AM -0500, Dave Weis wrote:
 
 I'm bringing up a MLPPP PPPoA bundle with 4 7-meg DSL lines. It had worked 
 fine with only 2 lines in the bundle and provided the full expected speed. 
 Adding the next two lines didn't provide an increase in speed, it actually 
 might have decreased a bit. It tops out at around 10 megabits with 4 links 
 in the bundle.
 
 The hardware on the customer side is a 3745 running 12.4(4)T1. It has 4 
 WIC-1ADSL's installed. The config on the ADSL interfaces are all 
 identical:
 
 interface ATM0/0
  no ip address
  no atm ilmi-keepalive
  dsl operating-mode auto
  hold-queue 224 in
  pvc 0/32
   encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer
   dialer pool-member 1
  !
 
 interface Dialer0
  ip address negotiated
  no ip proxy-arp
  encapsulation ppp
  dialer pool 1
  dialer vpdn
  dialer-group 1
  ppp pap sent-username removed
  ppp link reorders
  ppp multilink
  ppp multilink fragment disable
 !
 
 We've tried it with and without the reorders and fragment changes in the 
 config.
 
 The server side is a 7206 with an NPE-G1. We're not topping out the 
 processor on either side during transfers.
 
 The multilink bundle shows a lot of discards and reorders. This is after a 
 reset and downloading less than a gig of data on the client:
 
 Virtual-Access3, bundle name is isprouter
   Endpoint discriminator is isprouter
   Bundle up for 01:15:43, total bandwidth 40, load 1/255
   Receive buffer limit 48768 bytes, frag timeout 1000 ms
   Using relaxed lost fragment detection algorithm.
   Dialer interface is Dialer0
 0/0 fragments/bytes in reassembly list
 242 lost fragments, 1237543 reordered
 29169/15194784 discarded fragments/bytes, 16700 lost received
 0x1F9178 received sequence, 0x6A517 sent sequence
   Member links: 4 (max not set, min not set)
 Vi4, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
 PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM0/0
 Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
 Vi6, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
 PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM1/0
 Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
 Vi5, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
 PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM0/2
 Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
 Vi2, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
 PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM0/1
 Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
 No inactive multilink interfaces
 
 
 Any ideas to get this closer to 20+ megs?
 
 THanks
 dave
 
 
 
 
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 http://www.internetsolver.com/
 
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Re: [c-nsp] MLPPP throughput

2009-07-15 Thread Rodney Dunn
Depending on your apps ability to handle out of order frames on the end
stations of course.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 09:59:04PM -0400, Rodney Dunn wrote:
 I bet your out of order is getting so bad you are dropping the packets.
 
 I'm not a PPPox expert...but could you create 7 dialers and do CEF
 per packet over them?
 
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:07:24AM -0500, Dave Weis wrote:
  
  I'm bringing up a MLPPP PPPoA bundle with 4 7-meg DSL lines. It had worked 
  fine with only 2 lines in the bundle and provided the full expected speed. 
  Adding the next two lines didn't provide an increase in speed, it actually 
  might have decreased a bit. It tops out at around 10 megabits with 4 links 
  in the bundle.
  
  The hardware on the customer side is a 3745 running 12.4(4)T1. It has 4 
  WIC-1ADSL's installed. The config on the ADSL interfaces are all 
  identical:
  
  interface ATM0/0
   no ip address
   no atm ilmi-keepalive
   dsl operating-mode auto
   hold-queue 224 in
   pvc 0/32
encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer
dialer pool-member 1
   !
  
  interface Dialer0
   ip address negotiated
   no ip proxy-arp
   encapsulation ppp
   dialer pool 1
   dialer vpdn
   dialer-group 1
   ppp pap sent-username removed
   ppp link reorders
   ppp multilink
   ppp multilink fragment disable
  !
  
  We've tried it with and without the reorders and fragment changes in the 
  config.
  
  The server side is a 7206 with an NPE-G1. We're not topping out the 
  processor on either side during transfers.
  
  The multilink bundle shows a lot of discards and reorders. This is after a 
  reset and downloading less than a gig of data on the client:
  
  Virtual-Access3, bundle name is isprouter
Endpoint discriminator is isprouter
Bundle up for 01:15:43, total bandwidth 40, load 1/255
Receive buffer limit 48768 bytes, frag timeout 1000 ms
Using relaxed lost fragment detection algorithm.
Dialer interface is Dialer0
  0/0 fragments/bytes in reassembly list
  242 lost fragments, 1237543 reordered
  29169/15194784 discarded fragments/bytes, 16700 lost received
  0x1F9178 received sequence, 0x6A517 sent sequence
Member links: 4 (max not set, min not set)
  Vi4, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
  PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM0/0
  Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
  Vi6, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
  PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM1/0
  Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
  Vi5, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
  PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM0/2
  Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
  Vi2, since 01:15:43, unsequenced
  PPPoATM link, ATM PVC 0/32 on ATM0/1
  Packets in ATM PVC Holdq: 0, Particles in ATM PVC Tx Ring: 0
  No inactive multilink interfaces
  
  
  Any ideas to get this closer to 20+ megs?
  
  THanks
  dave
  
  
  
  
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  http://www.internetsolver.com/
  
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Re: [c-nsp] Maximum spannig tree instances

2009-07-15 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 05:00:36PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
 rant
 MST is what comes out if vendor committees get together, and agree to
 implement the least common determinator in the most complicated way.
 /rant

I completely disagree - it's what comes out of solving problems
related to the LAN - the LOCAL area network.  In virtualized LANs,
there's typically only a few possible physical topologies that can
exist.  MST seeks to exploit this to lower the amount of processing
power that is required.

My employer is a datacenter service provider and this holds in our
scenario - there's only ever two possible physical topologies.  Two
distribution routers each have a connection to hundreds of access
switches.  We started out by mapping what VLANs went to which physical
topology and we're done forever.  It's great -  we get redundancy
everywhere and mostly even load balancing.

If your network doesn't behave like this, then you need a better
control plane than MST can provide.  But don't complain about standards
bodies just because they solved a problem that doesn't concern you.

-- 
Ross Vandegrift
r...@kallisti.us

If the fight gets hot, the songs get hotter.  If the going gets tough,
the songs get tougher.
--Woody Guthrie
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[c-nsp] Logging event link-status 6509

2009-07-15 Thread Giles Woolston

Hi Guys,

I'm seeing an issue on some of our 6509's where no matter what I do I 
can't disable the event link status up/down appearing in the logs. 'no 
logging event link-status' appears in the interface config but does 
nothing. 6509 with sup 720 and s72033-pk9sv-mz.122-18.SXD6.bin as the 
image. Any commands you know of that might conflict with these settings?


Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

Giles


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Re: [c-nsp] Logging event link-status 6509

2009-07-15 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
Excerpts from Giles Woolston's message of Wed Jul 15 21:18:58 -0700 2009:
 I'm seeing an issue on some of our 6509's where no matter what I do I 
 can't disable the event link status up/down appearing in the logs. 'no 
 logging event link-status' appears in the interface config but does 
 nothing. 6509 with sup 720 and s72033-pk9sv-mz.122-18.SXD6.bin as the 
 image. Any commands you know of that might conflict with these settings?
 
 Any other suggestions?

There's also a global logging event link-status [ boot | default ]
option.

Cheers,
jonathan
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Re: [c-nsp] Logging event link-status 6509

2009-07-15 Thread Giles Woolston
Yea, as I understand that makes the default value enabled, but you 
should still be able to disable on a per interface basis. Which I can do 
on other 6500's but not these ones. The boot option suppresses link 
state messages during a reload/bootup but I need to disable logging for 
specific interfaces permanently.


Appreciate the suggestion though.

Giles

Jonathan Lassoff wrote:

Excerpts from Giles Woolston's message of Wed Jul 15 21:18:58 -0700 2009:
  
I'm seeing an issue on some of our 6509's where no matter what I do I 
can't disable the event link status up/down appearing in the logs. 'no 
logging event link-status' appears in the interface config but does 
nothing. 6509 with sup 720 and s72033-pk9sv-mz.122-18.SXD6.bin as the 
image. Any commands you know of that might conflict with these settings?


Any other suggestions?



There's also a global logging event link-status [ boot | default ]
option.

Cheers,
jonathan

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