Re: [c-nsp] route leak from main to vrf

2021-01-08 Thread quinn snyder
Possibly consider using VASI interfaces — 
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/network-address-translation-nat/200255-Configure-VRF-Aware-Software-Infrastruct.html
 
<https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/network-address-translation-nat/200255-Configure-VRF-Aware-Software-Infrastruct.html>

I’ve used them successfully to leak routes between VRF and GRT without physical 
loopback cable, etc.

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> On Jan 8, 2021, at 03:38, BASSAGET Cédric  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I'm trying to leak routes from my main routing table to a VRF.
> 
> Using Cisco IOS XE Software, Version 16.09.05 on a ASR1001-X
> 
> I've done this config :
> 
> ip prefix-list BT_LNS-out seq 5 permit x.x.x.3/32
> ip prefix-list BT_LNS-out seq 10 permit x.x.x.4/32
> 
> ip prefix-list BT_radius-out seq 5 permit x.x.x.5/32
> ip prefix-list BT_radius-out seq 10 permit x.x.x.6/32
> 
> route-map BT_bgp-out permit 10
> match ip address prefix-list BT_LNS-out BT_radius-out
> 
> ip vrf interco_BT
> rd 12844:1
> import ipv4 unicast map BT_bgp-out
> 
> ip route x.x.x.3 255.255.255.255 Loopback0
> ip route x.x.x.4 255.255.255.255 
> ip route x.x.x.5 255.255.255.255 
> ip route x.x.x.6 255.255.255.255 
> 
> so my main routing table has routes to x.x.x.[3-6]/32 but I'm unable to see
> the routes in the VRF "interco_BT".
> 
> Tried to add route in the vrf :
> ip route vrf interco_BT x.x.x.3 255.255.255.255 loopback 0
> % For VPN or topology routes, must specify a next hop IP address if not a
> point-to-point interface
> 
> I guess I'm missing something.
> Can somebody tell my where I am wrong please ?
> 
> Thank you.
> Regards,
> Cédric
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Re: [c-nsp] 3800 layer 2 Switch

2019-11-12 Thread quinn snyder

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 01:39, Mark Tinka  wrote:

> Doesn't seem like a big jump if it is based on the old mapping, where
> IOS XE 3.x was actually IOS 15.x. IIRC, it was a way to bring the old
> IOS numbering convention into the new IOS XE numbering convention.
> 
> So technically speaking, if they were still going to be keeping that,
> 16.x would translate to IOS XE 4.x.
> 
> Someone correct me if I'm mis-remembering.
> 
> Mark.
> 

Mark — 
You’re right in the mapping between IOS-XE and IOSd blobs.  Based on the older 
architecture of XE — there was a direct correlation between XE and the IOSd 
blob that was running for most of the control-plane bits.

Now that IOS-XE has moved towards “open” IOS-XE — with a drastic difference in 
architecture — 16.6+ is quite different “under the covers” than 3.x versions; 
not that you’ll see much over the top.

Either way — the upgrade won’t be bigly different.

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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5k ISSU

2019-11-01 Thread quinn snyder
On n5k — when designed appropriately — I’ve not had an issue with ISSU.  The 
process is actually pretty stable.  This means adhering to design guides for 
things like bridge-assurance, STP, etc.

N7K was a rockier experience (when I was in the field).  5.0 -> 5.1 -> 5.2 
transitions were rough — due to scheduler rebuilds with each release.  Many 
things broke.
I can’t think of any of my customers today running vPC on n7k — as most of them 
have moved to either ACI or VXLAN-EVPN — so I don’t have any anecdotes from the 
field.

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> On Nov 1, 2019, at 17:39, Bradley Ordner  wrote:
> 
> I have done this on the 7K and I don’t trust it anymore. I had OSPF 
> adjacencies go down when the supervisor failed over. 
> 
> We plan for outage now, we only have one per DC :( and do it manually. 
> 
> Even running the ISSU commands to see If the device was ready failed 
> sometimes. 
> 
> What I would suggest, which we tried as well to no effect is to reboot the 
> supervisors or what ever the 5k brains are called one by one before trying 
> ISSU. That way it’s fresh.
> 
> Brad Ordner
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Nov 2019, at 9:19 am, harbor235  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> What are your experiences with Nexus5K ISSU and VPCs.  Do you see service
>> interruptions? ISSU is never quite ISSU. During role changes and/or VPCs
>> reforming I see short duration losses. Is this standard?
>> 
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: [c-nsp] XR on GNS3

2018-05-31 Thread quinn snyder
XRv is simple control-plane of XR in a VM. This is why L2 forwarding isnt 
supported (though is configured). 
XRv9000 is full control- and data-plane and much tighter coupling of the two. 
L2 forwarding should work, but L2VPNs and such will fail miserably.  

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> On May 31, 2018, at 14:25, Aaron Gould  wrote:
> 
> I used XRv in GNS3 I think I used both 5.1.1 and 5.3.0 ... I recall getting
> some good use out of it.
> 
> I'm not a systems guy, so climbing the learning curve and asking for help
> from the communities online was what I had to do in order to figure out how
> to get it show up inside the GNS3 app (used virtual box, and recall ova,
> vmdk, qemu, etc, etc)  then it was useable and working.  I also did
> Juniper Olive/vMX.
> 
> A couple things
> 
> I don't think I ever got the Layer 2 forwarding to work.  L3 routing worked
> and packets would flow... but L2 bridging and MPLS Layer 2 type things I
> don't think I ever got to properly flow.
> 
> I also would have to bounce interfaces using a batch file anytime I
> restarted gns3 or even if I added a new instance of XRv... so because of
> that, I would never reboot my windows vm that it was all contained inside
> and tried not to close gns3 app
> 
> -Aaron
> 
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7k Upgrade Path

2018-05-28 Thread quinn snyder
N7K ISSU “a long time ago” has evolved drastically. 
I vaguely remember that 5.0, 5.1, and 5.2 code each had a scheduler re-write 
because things would get bungled up under load. I’m sure some of the TMEs on 
this list can comment. 

I myself had a few issues moving from 5.1 to 5.2 — causing several outages from 
process interrupts allowing heartbeats to fail (loopguard, UDLD, etc). 

Since moving all of my customers to 6.2+ — I’ve not seen ISSU oddities. YMMV, 
of course. 

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> On May 28, 2018, at 12:50, Ahmed Elnagar  wrote:
> 
> Actually ISSU is not that stable, I tried it a couple of times "long time 
> ago" with no luck so I stopped using it at all.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Ahmed Elnagar | CCIE#24697, CCNP R/DC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Bradley Ordner
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:41 AM
> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 7k Upgrade Path
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Only been on the list for a few months but found it very informative. I had a 
> question regarding the Nexus 7K ISSU upgrades.
> 
> 
> We have a Nexus 7K with two SUP2Es. We need to get to software version 
> 8.1(2). It says that you can't double hop to a software version without an 
> outage. Although I have found the following -
> 
> 
> ISSU from 7.2(0)D1(1) to 7.3(1)D1(1) then to 8.1(2).
> 
> 
> 
> We currently are on 7.2(0)D1(1) according to the doco I should be able to 
> upgrade as each version can ISSU to the next?
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone performed this before?
> 
> 
> I have posted this on Cisco Support Community, with no response so either it 
> is a stupid question or no one has done it before.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Brad Ordner
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Re: [c-nsp] Multihomed OTV on CSR Lab - Mac Address Issue

2018-02-01 Thread quinn snyder
the challenge is that when you tout your vm mobility play as “zero touch” after 
move (i.e. you don’t have to re-ip your vm/application/etc to ensure 100% 
business continuity) — you need to have stretched layer-2 between locations to 
ensure proper functionality.
things like bgp host-route injection or dns-gslb can remove the dependence on 
application == ip address — but the organization has to be mature enough to 
handle such things — especially in an automated way.
hence the evolution of things like lisp and vxlan within the enterprise/dc — to 
help alleviate some of these problems (i.e. we can do a layer-2 overlay on a 
layer-3 network).  while mpls does such things as well — for a long time — the 
requirements for dc have diverged from service provider.  this is slowly 
changing.

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> On 1 Feb, 2018, at 10:04, Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote:
>
> So I think (I could be wrong as I'm not a server guy) that all this L2
> network emulation is because of server virtualization and moving vm's or
> vmotion or something like that, and that they need to be in same ip subnet
> (aka bcast domain) correct ?
>
> *if* that's true, and *if* all this layer 2 networking madness is because of
> that point stated above, I would think that someone (vendors/standards
> bodies/companies) would/should be working really hard to make that server
> stuff work in different bcast domains (different subnets)...so we wouldn't
> have to do all that L2 stuff
>
> -Aaron
>
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Re: [c-nsp] Multihomed OTV on CSR Lab - Mac Address Issue

2018-01-30 Thread quinn snyder
This has been standard n7k operations since the platform
supported contexts. 
Much like ASA — interfaces need to be dedicated to a context from the 
management-plane perspective. 

OTV requires a separate context due to inability to have SVI and OTV in same 
context. OTV essentially becomes a part of the L2 domain on the inside — and L3 
domain on the outside sending encap’d traffic. 

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> On Jan 30, 2018, at 11:33, Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote:
> 
> Ha, thanks Justin, I just read the answer to my question I just posted...
> OTV is cisco proprietary.  Is OTV gaining steam in the industry as a
> potential ietf standard ?
> 
> Interesting things you mention about assigning asics, and linecard
> dependancies...
> 
> -Aaron
> 
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 1k vs 9k as a non-transit BGP router with full tables?

2017-08-02 Thread quinn snyder
> On 2Aug, 2017, at 03:24, Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu> wrote:
> 
> On 2/Aug/17 12:10, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> 
>> So, any remarks about the 1002?
> 
> It depends; there are different ASR1002's.
> 
> The ASR1002-X and the ASR1002-HX.
> 
> The ASR1002-X is older, and runs the RP1, which is the slower one. We
> use them for a bit of peering, and it's not bad - certainly better than
> the MX80 and MX104's RE’s.

as a point of correction — iirc — asr1002x is running closer to an rp2.  i 
don’t have one available to me at the moment, but i believe the code indicates 
as such.  comparing the ram, route, etc numbers leads me to believe this is 
true.

> The ASR1002-HX is on RP2.

based on what i’m reading — the asr1002hx is closer to an rp3-based platform, 
again — comparing the numbers.  i could be wrong on this.

> 
> Stay away from the ASR1002 or ASR1002-F. Those are too old for life.
> 
> In general, I'd say focus on the RP2 and RP3 chassis.

agreed.

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Re: [c-nsp] NCS4200 - re-badged ASR920 / ASR900 ?

2017-04-25 Thread quinn snyder

> On Apr 25, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Gert Doering <g...@greenie.muc.de> wrote:
> 
> Now the interesting question is, of course, *which* NCS code... as there
> seem to be a number of different "NCS*" families.
> 
> An ASR920-style device with IOS XR on it, and actually doing all the
> nice XR things, I'd love to see that.  Even if software upgrades would
> suck.

digging through my notes from the service provider partner vt meeting from last 
summer:

(*) ncs4200 positioned as tdm-to-ethernet conversion box to ease the movement 
from legacy networks to ethernet
(*) not considered a replacement for legacy dacs —- cost per port too high
(*) initial market meant to be larger carriers — “ncs” moniker helps with 
positioning in transport teams
(*) initial release will have parity with asr900-series (903/907/920) — 
including running ios-xe
(*) movement towards ios-xr expected sometime within 18 months of platform 
release; not in “ec” yet
(*) module parity between ncs4200 and asr900s at fcs
(*) modules may be developed in either platform that may not necessarily be 
absorbed into the other (think b/u split here)

thats all i could find.
we’re taking specific interest in this platform — as we’re deploying within 
several customer networks.

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Re: [c-nsp] IOS-XRv 9000 v6.0.0 and high cpu

2016-05-18 Thread quinn snyder


> On May 18, 2016, at 16:19, Tim Warnock <tim...@timoid.org> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had an opportunity to play with the IOS-XRv 9K version 6.0.0 
> image? Are you seeing high CPU usage (even with all ports shut down?)

yes. 
xrv9k has eaten cpu in every version (6.0.0, 6.0.1) that i have played with. 
(6) running concurrent have swallowed the b200-m3 blade i was testing on. 
given my test cases -- i saw cpu as a concern, but i was more interested in 
feature support, but i saw upwards of 9ghz cpu being used per vm. 

it is not lightweight by any means in current state. 

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Re: [c-nsp] IOS-XR 5.3.3 add Yang Models

2016-05-11 Thread quinn snyder

> make sure you got the “May 10th” version vs the one last week that was 
> deferred and won’t be supported.
> 
> - Jared

yes.  in my original testing with 6.0.1 — there were some ssh-related issues 
with the platform (at least the version that i was working with $vendor on).  i 
applied a patch that brought me to the appropriate revision level.

i’ve not contacted the b/u for exact differences — but this is just a sandbox 
for me to play in.  obviously — the vetting process for baked in code will 
occur with the releases from cco.

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Re: [c-nsp] IOS-XR 5.3.3 add Yang Models

2016-05-11 Thread quinn snyder

> On May 11, 2016, at 08:43, Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> 
> FYI: you may want to look at 6.0.1 which was just (re)-posted to CCO as well. 
>  For us it fixes a number of critical issues which are not in the 5.3.3 EMR.

+1 for 6.0.1. working with it in the lab now using both nso as well as some 
home grown apps. 
the support is much larger and the github posted earlier has a lot of solid 
models to build from. 

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Re: [c-nsp] necessity of nowadays

2016-03-23 Thread quinn snyder

> On 23 Mar 2016, at 06:22, Phil Mayers <p.may...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Agreed. UDLD was a net problem for us - I can't think of a single time it 
> performed it's function, but can recall a handful of outages from 
> false-positives.

in my case, as an (earlier) adopter of nexus 7000 and running 4.x, 5.0, and 5.1 
code — i saw numerous cases where a supervisor switchover (during issu, for 
example) would cause the scheduler to eat itself, and in turn, cause 
control-plane protocols to drop.  most often, this was not a huge issue (more 
than some logs and small “blips”), but in the case of udld aggressive, i lost 
connectivity to the rest of the network, because udld was only showing down on 
the n7k side (not the far end).

lots of testing later — udld is only enabled in normal mode — if at all.  i 
agree that udld is more trouble than its worth unless specific corner cases are 
encountered.

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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus / VPC - Management port "needed" in VPC?

2015-11-19 Thread quinn snyder
> On Nov 19, 2015, at 18:14, CiscoNSP List <cisconsp_l...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for clarifying Quinn - So on a pair of 3Ks, a "typical" VPC setup 
> would be 2 x 10Gb links + "a" link(i.e. Management ports) for the keepalives?
> 
> And on a pair of 9Ks, 2 x 40Gb links, plus management port link?

not so much typical as 'sized for your use case'.
during failure scenarios, it is possible to have traffic transit the peer-link. 
 however -- it comes down to understanding your environment, sla, redundancy, 
etc.  while the minimum recommended links is (2) for the peer-link, this can 
scale and you'll need to dial this in for your situation.

playing in the lab and running through a reflective set of test cases is your 
best bet here.  obviously -- you'll need to extrapolate this to being under 
load as well. 

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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus / VPC - Management port "needed" in VPC?

2015-11-19 Thread quinn snyder

> On Nov 19, 2015, at 14:07, CiscoNSP List <cisconsp_l...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> We have a customer that is wanting to do VPC on some N9Ks and also N3Ks - I 
> "thought" VPC would be similar to VSS...i.e. dual link between the 
> switches...but my (brief) reading up on the setup, I see some setup guides 
> where there are dual links(2 x 10Gb, or 2 x 40Gb), plus the use of the 
> management port for vPC peer keepalives?
> 
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/nexus-3000-series-switches/white_paper_c11-685753.html
> 
> Any info on the "correct"  method to setup VPC on the Nexus would be greatly 
> appreciated

the above is correct.

vpc requires the “data plane” (vpc peer-link) that performs synchronization 
using cfsoe between vpc domain peers.  it also *can* be used to forward actual 
data-plane traffic under failure scenarios.  its important to understand the 
baked-in vpc drop conditions that exist to provide loop prevention under 
steady-state.

the management (or some other set of layer-3 adjacencies within an isolated 
vrf) are used for simple heartbeats between the devices.  failure of this link 
does not mean catastrophic failure of the domain.  this is similar to something 
like ‘fast-hellos’ using an oob link when dealing with vss.

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco Nexus as MetroE switch?

2015-10-14 Thread quinn snyder

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 14:52, Gavin McBride <gavmcb.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Also, how do people feel about using NX-OS and VXLAN vs. IOS and IP/MPLS?
> 

in this case — are you referring to using pure vxlan, or has cisco talked with 
you regarding bgp with vxlan extensions for layer-2 reachability between 
disparate locations?
i’ve not been involved directly with vxlan w/ bgp within the dc-space — but 
have some colleagues that have.  its a lot of config, and there is “still a 
ways to go” (their words).
purely looking at the platforms and what they offer — n9k wasn’t designed for 
anything other than cheap, dense 10/40gbe switching inside of the d/c.  i’d 
hesitate to use those platforms anywhere outside of this role.

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Re: [c-nsp] PE NAT / VRF Aware NAT on PE

2015-09-30 Thread quinn snyder


> On Sep 30, 2015, at 02:06, Nick Hilliard <n...@foobar.org> wrote:
> 
> the advantage - as with switch stacking - is with administration.  You end
> up with O(1) admin interfaces to lots of boxes instead of O(n).  This can
> be important if there's too much overhead associated with maintaining
> parallel installations of IOS and XR.
> 
> Personally, I'd be more concerned with the loss of path redundancy and loss
> of service in the case of upgrades.
> 
> Nick

absolutely. 
however -- as with any control-plane sharing feature -- there are also some 
tradeoffs, namely around upgrades and sometimes erractic behaviour of a chassis 
because of its peer. 
knowing and understanding the pros and cons of moving to nv is important 
(although its the same for any feature) -- and not just looking at nv as a 
panacea is critical for success in the network. 

i tend to be of the mindset of 'separate boxes have separate control-planes' -- 
so i carry that prejudice in to this conversation. 

i do think that touchpoint minimization is "a good thing"(tm) and welcome the 
use of automation/provisioning systems that interact with the control-plane of 
$device, especially if administration is already ornerous within the network. 
however -- i just tend to be wary of control-plane unification technologies, as 
i have been bitten and burned by things not working as expected due to said 
technology. 

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Re: [c-nsp] PE NAT / VRF Aware NAT on PE

2015-09-29 Thread quinn snyder

> On Sep 29, 2015, at 07:06, Aaron <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote:
> 
> So I could potentially cluster a couple asr9006's together and include cgnat
> as one of the things to do on that cluster.

by cluster -- are you referring to nv-edge?

i'd take a long look at nv (read: not do it) as you really add a lot of 
control-plane overhead with not as much benefit -- especially as it pertains to 
any upgrades. 
you'd also need to look at specific caveats with vsm blades running cgn in 
nv-edge. 

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Re: [c-nsp] VPLS BGP Signaling

2015-07-27 Thread quinn snyder
 On Jul 27, 2015, at 05:18, Adam Vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@gamma.co.uk wrote:
 
 Ooh and forgot to mention very good introductory material is from Cisco live 
 -on demand library: BRKMPL-2333 - E-VPN  PBB-EVPN

for what its worth —

this is a very solid class to help your understanding of evpn, and most 
importantly pbb-evpn.  i’ve told several people who have little understanding 
of it to watch the on-demand class — and they have come away with a solid 
“intro” understanding of “why its a good thing”™ and “what does this do”.

 EVPN is supported only on A9ks as far as I know (on A1k only as AF in BGP 
 for RR functionality).


also — adam — evpn is also supported on nexus 9000-series, but the use-case is 
different.  evpn is used for vxlan within the datacenter to provide layer-2 
over layer-3 fabric.
still a few bugs, but it works.

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Re: [c-nsp] Serial Terminal Servers

2015-06-30 Thread quinn snyder
i’ve done this with non-cisco gear.
currently have a 2821 connecting to the console of an older alterpath pdu’s 
console port.  nm32a with console cable, coupled to a “hacked” cable i put 
together.
pay attention to the pins.  and have some trial and error.  its also helpful to 
have the “crossover” and “rollover” adapters for your ethernet cables to aid in 
testing (e.g. it doesn’t work with your hacked cable, toss a rollover or 
crossover adapter in between and see if it fixes it, then remake the cable).

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 On Jun 30, 2015, at 11:43, chris tknch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yeah thats how I have it setup also. From what you are describing you are
 only interfacing cisco gear same as we are.
 
 I never tried connecting a computer though.  The part im unsure of is
 connecting a standard db9/rs232 device. I think its irrelevant whether the
 octal cable is rj45 or db25 as long as the pins patch up, but obviously we
 will need some kind of adapter I think either cisco console rj45 - db9
 female or cisco db25 - db9 female?
 
 I am looking to see if people have been able to connect standard serial /
 non cisco devices and if so how they are adapting it
 
 chris
 
 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Chris Marget ch...@marget.com wrote:
 
 All of my CAB-OCTAL-ASYNC cables land in a panel like this:
 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HZI348/
 
 From there, I connect to Cisco router consoles (and things wired like
 them) with regular UTP patch cords.
 
 Connecting to the DE-9 port on a server can be accomplished with:
 
 - a modern Cisco console cable plus a rollover adapter
 - a modern Cisco console cable with the end chopped off and re-crimped
 upside-down (rollover)
 - an old-school Cisco DE-9F -- 8P8C adapter plus a UTP patch cord
 
 I'm sure that the DB-25 cable can be adapted to whatever you want, but
 it's big and clunky. I wouldn't buy it if I was attaching to anything other
 than 8-packs of external modems.
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Black hole routing dynamically

2015-05-09 Thread quinn snyder


 On May 9, 2015, at 03:13, Adam Vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@gamma.co.uk wrote:
 
 Also IOS XE has support for flowspec safi for RR functionality.
 How do you find the match and set options so far?
 Reading through the docs the match options seem pretty limited on XR 
 -compared to Junos.
 But at least XR seems to support NSR for flowspec.
 
 adam
 
i’ve admittedly not as much juniper experience as i would like, especially with 
flowspec.
this was driven out of another alternative for ddos mitigation for customer 
networks (all cisco shops, generally).

comparisons of things like arbor on vsm, srtbh, and flowspec generally come up 
in conversations.  we wanted to be ready for those.

overall it works.  it is pretty rudimentary — but not having any juniper 
experience — it was pure speculation on my part.

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Re: [c-nsp] Black hole routing dynamically

2015-05-08 Thread quinn snyder

 On May 8, 2015, at 10:59, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:
 
 I was reading some release notes the other day (like IOS XR) where I see
 FlowSpec now within the Cisco hinterland.
 
 Mark.

bgp flowspec was introduced in xr 5.2.0.
i'm currently toying with it in the lab as cycles permit. 

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Re: [c-nsp] ASR902 vs ME3800X

2015-03-18 Thread quinn snyder
 
 On Mar 18, 2015, at 12:50, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:
 
 I guess these boxes make sense in legacy RAN networks, where you may need a 
 mix-and-match of old interfaces that you can uplink into your MPLS core.
 
 I suppose one could use them as an edge router where low-speed non-Ethernet 
 interfaces are needed. For that, I'd typically go with an ASR1000 or MX104.
 


we’re seeing a larger uptake of these boxen in locations/customer environments 
were migration from tdm/serial to ethernet is occurring.  think legacy 
monitoring systems wherein sonet/scada was used and there is a 
requirement/desire to replace gear and move towards converged ip 
infrastructure.  the issue is that some sensors/interfaces aren’t natively 
ethernet and require some low-speed interface to bring it into the ip domain.
however — this falls in line with what you’ve talked about with low-speed 
“mix-n-match” flexibility.  i think cisco’s market (initially) was 
cell-site/ran backhaul.  i’ve not done a price/module comparison between asr1k 
and asr902/903 — but would assume it comes down to requirements.  both types of 
kit have been solid (with their oddities, of course) in my experience.

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Re: [c-nsp] DR location

2015-02-22 Thread quinn snyder

 On 22-Feb-15, at 08:47 , Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net wrote:
 
 
 He should be looking for redundant active/active, instead.  DNS, not an IP 
 address, should be used to reach each active instance of the service in 
 question.
 

i think true active/active becomes a nirvana that we all would like to achieve 
from a technical perspective — however there are strong business implications 
that prevent achievement of said state.
the discussion that should be happening is around the business continuity 
requirements of each of the services/applications in question.  when the cost 
of an outage far exceeds even the fewest of moments of downtime, active/active 
should be the goal.  however — through a detailed discussion from all of the 
different business units — it may be determined that active/active may be 
overkill for the service/application provided.  things like “warm standby” or 
“cold standby” may be more tolerable from a capex standpoint — let alone the 
operational challenges in ensuring that all operations teams are ready to 
support a truly “active/active” design.

while the ability to implement “things” provided by mpls technologies for 
transparent layer-2 connections (or through the use of $vendor technology) — 
coupled with storage federation and inbound routing correction through dns gslb 
or lisp is definitely doable — it may be determined that the cost is too great 
for everything — thus creating a tiering of redundancy services based on 
criticality to the business.  otherwise — we’re all just being asked “how long 
is a piece of string?”

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Re: [c-nsp] bgp scalability C7600

2015-02-06 Thread quinn snyder
i'd not look at nexus as edge/peering to replace c6k/7600.

c6k replacement needs to look at role and requirements, not point product 
placement. 

asr1k with rp2 control-plane or asr9k, depending on density/cost models 
(although to gert's earlier point, asr9001 fits small edge/pop, especially if 
more than a handful of 10gbe is needed, which gets expensive in asr1k quickly). 

q. 

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 On Feb 6, 2015, at 12:56, james list jameslis...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi gert
 Good info.
 
 From customer requirements and  pricing point of view the idea is to
 replace with a nexus.
 
 Regards
 Il 06/feb/2015 19:45 Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de ha scritto:
 
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 03:16:26PM +0100, james list wrote:
 do anybody have numbers in terms of BGP sessions scalability oin C7600
 SUP-720 ?
 
 not that great...
 
 Ours at DE-CIX has a handful of iBGP sessions and about 150 eBGP sessions
 to IXP participants, and if that interface flaps, it will hickup for
 about *1 hour* until everything is stable again.
 
 Effectively it depends on
 
 - number of sessions
 - number of prefixes on each session (10 each or 50.000)
 - how complicated your inbound and outbout policy is
(our policy is slightly too complicated, with as-path matches which
 are not exactly performance efficient)
 - whether peers can be grouped into update-groups (= same export policy)
 - keepalive timers your peers have configured
(the main issue is CPU busy - keepalives not answered in time -
 session bouncing - more CPU busy, which is made worse by short
 keepalive timers)
 
 We're not deploying Sup720s for anything with lots of BGP anymore, and
 the box in question will be replaced with an ASR9001 any day now, which
 is just laughing its NPUs off on that BGP load... (BGP convergence in 30
 seconds.  done.  anything more interesting to do?  Any slow peer I could
 nuke with outgoing updates sent over too fast for it?).
 
 gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Is the Nexus 3064PQ usable ?

2014-06-12 Thread quinn snyder
i’ve been involved quite extensively in n7k as campus distribution.  this was 
pre-c6k/s2t during initial deployment and we’ve continued on same path for all 
sites, just with refreshed hardware on n7k (sup2/fab2/f2e instead of 
sup1/fab1/m1).

the platform is robust, though nothing better than the catalyst line at this 
point.  vpc is used to dual-home to each access idf.  vdc used to split out 
chassis into multiple aggregation zones.  aside from random bugs cropping up in 
the scheduler between 5.0 — 5.1 — 5.2 — 6.x; everything has been solid.

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On Jun 12, 2014, at 4:59, Antoine Monnier mrantoinemonn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Michele for sharing the feedback you received on this.
 
 
 Our cisco sales rep is telling us that he has never heard of Nexus used as
 a campus distribution-layer and is trying to convince us that that Catalyst
 6807 is the right choice (instead of Nexus 56128P), even though we would
 get less 10Gig port-density, 1:2 oversubscription, 5x more RU used, at
 least twice the power consumption, etc... and all of this for twice the
 price!
 
 Are there other people out there using Nexus (3x00 ? 5x00? 6x00 7x00?) at
 the distribution-layer of medium-sized campus?
 Medium-sized being about 60 access-layer closets with dual 10 Gig uplink
 each and a small server-farm.
 
 
 On the downside I hear that the orphan port scenario with vPC may be a
 pain in the back side? I still need to read the details of this.
 Is anyone running vPC at the distribution-layer of a campus environment?
 
 
 Thanks
 
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Michele Bergonzoni berg...@labs.it
 wrote:
 
 Does anybody have success/horror stories about the [Nexus] 3064 or 3048 to
 
 share? If you email me in private, I can post an anonimized summary.
 
 
 I received two very helpful replies.
 
 One person told me about some new 3172PQ: I am loving them to death.
 This person is using them as L2, with vPC.
 
 One person is using the 3064X with OSPF, BGP VRRP and is happy with it.
 This is very similar to what I am trying to do.
 
 I still feel a bit uneasy, but I think we will end up trusting the
 datasheet.
 
 Cheers to all,
 
Bergonz
 
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR-1K and 3rd party sfps

2014-04-23 Thread quinn snyder
 On Apr 22, 2014, at 21:39, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually...check this out.
 
 https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11445646/advice-needed-cisco-asr-1002-routers-sfps
 
 The GLC-T don't appear to be supported on first glance.  The GE-T are.
  Since your vendor calls them GLC-T (even though they claim to be
 GE-T), that might be your issue?

completely from the 'for what its worth' department -- i've successfully seen a 
link-up on asr1002 (non-x) and asr1006/rp1 with 'glc' part numbered pluggables 
up through about xe3.3 at 100/1000 (-t) and 1000 (-sx-mm). this was done on 
cisco-branded optics without 'service unsupported-transceiver'. 

q. 

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Re: [c-nsp] EIGRP potentially silly question...

2014-03-05 Thread quinn snyder
something like pfr[0] may be useful in this instance, assuming the kit can run 
it. 
on newer kit, pfr-v2 is much less sucky than the pfr of old. 

q. 

[0] 
http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/PfR:Solutions:BasicLoadBalancing#PfR_Features_that_Enable_Load_Balancing

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 On Mar 5, 2014, at 22:14, Alex Pressé alex.pre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You could create a second EIGRP process with a value for K2
 
 router eigrp 2
 metric weights 0 1 1 1 0 0
 
 Any identical routes in this second new instance of EIGRP will have a
 higher metric than the original EIGRP process. And thusly will NOT be
 installed in the routing table - provided they are *identical*.
 
 This would allow you to build out the entire second EIGRP process without
 it coming live uncontrolled.
 Then you could selectively remove networks from the original EIGRP (or
 manually increase them via offset lists). As they get removed from old
 EIGRP the new EIGRP routes would automatically take over.
 
 You're still left with the unfortunate part about the metric never actually
 changing unless DUAL is triggered. And in my little bit of labbing this
 past hour it appears that just because one side updated the metric; the
 other side will *not* under certain circumstances So you can have two
 routers having different loading values for the same link(s). Resulting in
 asymmetric flows.
 
 I bet somebody has made an EEM script to do clear ip eigrp neighbors soft
 on an interval or interface loading thresholds. This would at least get it
 to work as intended.
 
 All in all; fucking ugly. I just use default K values and a variance value
 of 2 with some simple offset lists or bandwidth statements. Much easier to
 support and troubleshoot at 03:15 during a vacation.
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote:
 
 After a deployment of EIGRP with the intent of providing link
 utilization based load-sharing as opposed to round robin, I get the
 rude awakening that the default k-values for EIGRP do NOT include link
 utilization.
 
 Any shortcuts / workarounds / etc to resetting k-values site-wide
 without breaking each individual peering as the values are changed?
 (EIGRP won't peer with mismatched k-values...)
 
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Re: [c-nsp] fabricpath and vPC+

2013-11-13 Thread quinn snyder
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps9441/ps9402/white_paper_c07-728188.pdf

take it with a grain of salt — as some of it is very marketecture related.

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On 13-Nov-13, at 10:23 , Arne Larsen / Region Nordjylland a...@rn.dk wrote:

 Hi all
 
 What is the correct setup when one is using fabricpath and vPC+
 If 2 5k are direct connected with 2 10G fabricpath interfaces, should these 2 
 be a channel group
 or doesn't it really matter, because of the equal cost routing in isis
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Meraki...information

2013-10-10 Thread quinn snyder
meraki switches create pseduo-out-of-band management tunnels to (2) 
geographically remote datacenters.  this is how the changes are pushed 
from the cloud dashboard to the devices themselves.
if the connectivity is lost, the devices should continue to push bits as 
previously configured.  limited local management is possible, but not 
anywhere near the level provided by the dashboard.


from a packet perspective -- no packets are pushed from the switch to 
the cloud.  only management frames do this.


it is possible perform a span session on the switch.  i'd suggest 
looking at a wireshark capture to see if there is a fundamental change 
somewhere along the line.  it may also be helpful to have the customer 
walk you through the configuration via webex or so.  the level of config 
isn't much different from the catalyst express switches of yesteryear.


q.

On 10/10/2013 05:31 PM, Eric Van Tol wrote:

Blake,
I'm well aware of how switching and buffering works, but I appreciate the 
derisive suggestion - it was a big help.

However, for clarity: no errors (including input/output drops) on the transport 
circuit (or the customer's directly-attached circuit).

Let me ask a more pointed question:

Besides simple management, do the Meraki switches perform any other functions in 
the cloud, or more specifically, rely on non-local upstream connectivity?

I'm well aware that it makes absolutely zero sense that a change in our transport network 
would cause a local issue within the customer's network.  However, the customer mentioned 
that they have had odd problems with these Meraki switches before when 
changes occurred outside our network.  Thus, I felt it necessary to try and ask the list 
if anyone has ever heard of anything remotely like this before.

-evt


From: Blake Dunlap [mailto:iki...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:31 PM
To: Eric Van Tol
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Meraki...information

Not enough relevant information to assist. Due to what you have and haven't 
stated in this report I suspect you don't understand the fundamentals of how 
this change affects switching and buffering, and suggest reading about it and 
learning how the technology works at that fundamental level before proceeding.
Specifically, you never mention if there are asic or input drops, or even an 
indication that you looked for them or understand what these symptoms lean 
twords or what troubleshooting steps should be taken.

-Blake

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Eric Van Tol 
e...@atlantech.netmailto:e...@atlantech.net wrote:
Hi all,
We ran into a very strange problem last night with a customer who utilizes 
Meraki switches.  I'd like to ask anyone on the list who is familiar with this 
model of switch whether there is *any* possibility that an upstream 
modification would cause issues with traffic traversing these switches.

A little background: we attempted to perform a migration of a transport circuit in our 
network from 1G to 10G last night, but the single customer attached to the ME3600 where 
the transport circuit was changed, started to have issues.  There are no errors being 
reported on either end of the circuit, light levels are good, and we get consistent 
1500-byte df-bit pings to their firewall from both inside and outside our borders.  The 
transport circuit is not even a circuit that touches the customer's network.  
However, they report slow browsing from within their LAN (but not from their DMZ on the 
same ASA).  When switching the transport circuit back to 1G, everything works fine.  
There is absolutely no difference in the routing, path, or IP addresses on this transport 
circuit - the only difference is link speed.

Customer now believes the problem is with their Meraki switches, but we are both confused 
about how a change two physical hops upstream from their LAN would cause such issues.  
The slow browsing issue is definitely contained within their network, as they 
are not even able to browse their own website which is located entirely on their 
infrastructure and doesn't pass through the 10G link, or even through the CPE we provide.

I know nothing about the Meraki product, besides the fact that it's a cloud 
managed solution.  Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this before with 
this model of switch?

Thanks,
evt


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Re: [c-nsp] Meraki...information

2013-10-10 Thread quinn snyder
iirc the 'wireshark' is a 30s .pcap file that is dumped into your web browser 
for download. 

i am trying to recall if you can span off the switch. its been a month (and 
many beverages) since my meraki training. 

q. 

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 On Oct 10, 2013, at 18:47, Eric Van Tol e...@atlantech.net wrote:
 
 Thanks, Quinn, for not being a condescending prick - your answer was actually 
 helpful and to the point.  The customer is not entirely knowledgable about 
 these switches, doesn't like them one bit, and had mentioned that they had a 
 problem before where the switches changed the MTUs dynamically on the ports.  
 It sounded far-fetched to me, but who knows what the cloud is doing these 
 days.  Do these switches support ERSPAN or just local SPAN/RSPAN?
 
 We are trying to set up a remote device for RDP/Webex access so we can 
 actually troubleshoot from the customer side, as well as see if we can get 
 some Wireshark traces.
 
 The Meraki may well be a red herring, but I wanted to explore all obvious 
 (albeit strange) avenues, especially after being told about some weird 
 MTU-changing-switch jackassery.  I really am at a loss as to why the customer 
 would even have trouble browsing his own locally-hosted website because of a 
 simple circuit migration we've made on our side, of which we've been through 
 over two dozen times this year alone.  Obviously, more troubleshooting info 
 from the customer is needed.
 
 Thanks again,
 evt
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
 quinn snyder
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:06 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Meraki...information
 
 meraki switches create pseduo-out-of-band management tunnels to (2)
 geographically remote datacenters.  this is how the changes are pushed
 from the cloud dashboard to the devices themselves.
 if the connectivity is lost, the devices should continue to push bits as
 previously configured.  limited local management is possible, but not
 anywhere near the level provided by the dashboard.
 
 from a packet perspective -- no packets are pushed from the switch to
 the cloud.  only management frames do this.
 
 it is possible perform a span session on the switch.  i'd suggest
 looking at a wireshark capture to see if there is a fundamental change
 somewhere along the line.  it may also be helpful to have the customer
 walk you through the configuration via webex or so.  the level of config
 isn't much different from the catalyst express switches of yesteryear.
 
 q.
 
 On 10/10/2013 05:31 PM, Eric Van Tol wrote:
 Blake,
 I'm well aware of how switching and buffering works, but I appreciate the
 derisive suggestion - it was a big help.
 
 However, for clarity: no errors (including input/output drops) on the
 transport circuit (or the customer's directly-attached circuit).
 
 Let me ask a more pointed question:
 
 Besides simple management, do the Meraki switches perform any other
 functions in the cloud, or more specifically, rely on non-local upstream
 connectivity?
 
 I'm well aware that it makes absolutely zero sense that a change in our
 transport network would cause a local issue within the customer's network.
 However, the customer mentioned that they have had odd problems with these
 Meraki switches before when changes occurred outside our network.  Thus, I
 felt it necessary to try and ask the list if anyone has ever heard of
 anything remotely like this before.
 
 -evt
 
 
 From: Blake Dunlap [mailto:iki...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 1:31 PM
 To: Eric Van Tol
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Meraki...information
 
 Not enough relevant information to assist. Due to what you have and
 haven't stated in this report I suspect you don't understand the
 fundamentals of how this change affects switching and buffering, and suggest
 reading about it and learning how the technology works at that fundamental
 level before proceeding.
 Specifically, you never mention if there are asic or input drops, or even
 an indication that you looked for them or understand what these symptoms
 lean twords or what troubleshooting steps should be taken.
 
 -Blake
 
 On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Eric Van Tol
 e...@atlantech.netmailto:e...@atlantech.net wrote:
 Hi all,
 We ran into a very strange problem last night with a customer who utilizes
 Meraki switches.  I'd like to ask anyone on the list who is familiar with
 this model of switch whether there is *any* possibility that an upstream
 modification would cause issues with traffic traversing these switches.
 
 A little background: we attempted to perform a migration of a transport
 circuit in our network from 1G to 10G last night, but the single customer
 attached to the ME3600 where the transport circuit was changed, started to
 have issues.  There are no errors being reported on either end of the
 circuit, light levels are good, and we get

Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread quinn snyder
on a side note -- it requires a lot of compute to run successfully (ram and 
proc). 

large scale networks will require large pools of  resources. 

the software may be free -- but running it may not be if you're short on 
servers. 

q. 

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 On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:08, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote:
 
 It should be..  We pay enough for Software and licenses and SmartNet on this 
 stuff.  The least they can do is give us something to help us test our 
 networks...
 
 On 2013-10-03, at 11:05 AM, Luan Nguyen luan20...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Seriously doubt that it would be free.
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld ja...@lixfeld.ca wrote:
 This should be free.
 
 On 2013-10-03, at 10:55 AM, Oliver Garraux oli...@g.garraux.net wrote:
 
 I will be really really interested to see what they do pricing wise on
 VIRL.  Hope its nothing crazy, I would love to be able to mess around with
 XR and NX-OS in the lab.
 
 Oliver
 
 -
 
 Oliver Garraux
 Check out my blog:  blog.garraux.net
 Follow me on Twitter:  twitter.com/olivergarraux
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lane Wigley (lwigley) 
 lwig...@cisco.comwrote:
 
 I think this is what you're looking for - VIRL
 
 http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/netsys/CiscoLive/virl/index.html
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsbzHmwUz6I
 
 Targeted for Dec/Jan I think.
 
 - Lane
 
 
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 Aaron
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 10:08 AM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)
 
 What do y'all know about this ?  I understand this is IOS XR on a nix
 server virtual machine or something like that.
 
 
 
 I'd like to get it on a few servers in my lab.  Where do I get/download it
 ?
 
 
 
 Aaron
 
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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread quinn snyder
 On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:12, Aaron aar...@gvtc.com wrote:

 I saw in Cisco TAC Case Open Tool, under IOS XR...   XRv (XR on a server).
 XRv same as VIRL ?


xrvr == xr within virl. 

doesn't ncs run virtualized xr (xrv)?

q. 

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Re: [c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

2013-10-03 Thread quinn snyder

On 3-Oct-13, at 11:00 , Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:

 On 03/10/2013 16:16, quinn snyder wrote:
 on a side note -- it requires a lot of compute to run successfully (ram
 and proc).
 
 It shouldn't need that much (although the csr1000v's insane compute
 requirements are a complete mystery to me) - anyway, ram and cpu are both
 cheap resources these days.

yes. in comparison to outright purchase and installation of kit, this is *much* 
cheaper.  i'm just adding a point that it won't be able to run in a small 
footprint, which was the vibe that i received when it was released at live! 
this year.
the front-end management tools are light and run happily on modest resources -- 
but the actual orchestration on the backend requires more resources, especially 
as the instances are building and running.

 
 large scale networks will require large pools of  resources.
 
 This may or may not be true, depending on the scale of what you're trying
 to model.  A hypervisor with 8 cores and 128 gigs of ram costs a small
 amount of money, and would be enough to run a relatively large model
 deployment.

i think the higher ceiling to hit will be in regards to (virtual) processors -- 
not the ram (as ram has scaled much faster than cores per box).  there are some 
pretty finicky requirements and while its possible to kind of load share 
around them -- if resource contention is felt -- the software doesn't exactly 
fail gracefully.

 
 the software may be free -- but running it may not be if you're short on
 servers.
 
 The software costs money to develop but there is no cost associated with
 making another copy of it.
 
 The most important thing for Cisco to remember is that it's trivial to
 build virtualised test labs with Junos Olive.  This approach allows people
 to learn enough about the operating system that they feel comfortable about
 switching to or buying more Juniper kit.  I know a good many people who
 started out with Olive and who liked it so much they started buying Juniper
 kit in volume.  Cisco really missed the boat on this - to their cost.
 
 I don't particularly expect Cisco to provide this sort of facility for
 free, but unless they refrain from their usual policy of premium pricing,
 I'll shrug my shoulders, then move on and spend my budgets on other vendors.

and i see this being a cisco-centric answer to an olive or even junosphere 
(though there are usage costs to junonsphere that i'm not well versed in).  i'm 
not exactly sure how this will be marketed or where it will be positioned.  i 
just know what my experience in using the software has been.  i see a lot of 
potential use cases with the software -- even though it has a *long* way to go 
in terms of features and software support.  i know that we're internally 
looking at ways that we can tie this in with different aspects of our labs and 
demos in an effort to help augment our physical demo's and proof-of-concepts.  
it has a ways to go -- but it has promise and we're providing feedback to the 
dev teams on what we're seeing.

as you say -- for most customers -- it will come down to price vs. reward.  
everyone has their own sweet spot.  it just all depends on if cisco hits that 
mark.

q.

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Re: [c-nsp] Vlan Mapping

2013-09-12 Thread quinn snyder
mike --

the vlan mapping configuration will exist on all ports in the port group -- 
much like port-based qos bits on a per linecard basis.

pseudocode
int gi 1/1
  vlan 1 map 11
  vlan 2 map 12

int gi 1/2
  vlan 1 map 11
  vlan 2 map 12
/pseudocode

if you activate vlan mapping on an interface, it inherits all maps on the port 
group.
in my experience (for what its worth) -- this is really to be used as a 
one-off, temporary fix type of solution.  its not permanent -- especially as 
each linecard on c6k has a varied experience (i.e. number of port groups and 
translations per port group).

q.

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On 12-Sep-13, at 06:16 , harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for the reply Quinn, can I perform unique vlan mappings per 
 interface as well?
 
 e.g.   port 1 ---  map vlan 1 to 11,   port 2 --- map vlan 2 to vlan 12
 
 both ports are on the same port group ASIC.
 
 
 
 Mike
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:05 PM, quinn snyder snyd...@gmail.com wrote:
 configuration is applied per port group on each linecard.
 however -- each interface (and subsequent 'show' commands) have an 
 enable/disable knob so that mapping can occur on some (but not all) 
 interfaces.
 
 q.
 
 -= sent via iphone. please excuse spelling, grammar, and brevity =-
 
 On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:02, harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I am trying to understand the VLAN mapping feature specifically on the
  7600. I read a bit but would like confirmation on how it works once
  implemented.
 
 
  When the feature is enabled it effects all ports on the linecard port ASIC,
  so it is linecard dependent.
 
  My Question:
 
  1) Do all ports have to be engaged in VLAN mapping in the port ASIC group
  once
 enabled? or only trunk ports perform the actual VLAN mapping, access
  ports would
 not and the configuration for vlan mapping is hidden/disabled?
 
  2) In a port ASIC group can I perform VLAN mapping from/to unique VLANS or
  am i confined to the same vlans per port ASIC group?
 
 
 
  Mike
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco Switch Portfolio Miss

2013-09-12 Thread quinn snyder
isn't most of that a by-product of using trident/trident+?
i know that trident ii fixes some of that -- but i think that comes down to the 
(some say unwise) decision of using ots components, no?

q.

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On 12-Sep-13, at 20:15 , Pete Templin peteli...@templin.org wrote:

 On 9/12/13 11:30 AM, Gert Doering wrote:
 
 To be fair, one would need to compare software features - so what does
 the N3K do?  L2 only?  L3, with how many routes?  IPv6, MPLS?
 
 Gert, you don't want to explore the N3K, you'll have 6500 heartburn all over 
 again.  URPF halves the route table size, max 16k routes (but v6 routes count 
 double), a separate memory space for host routes, very limited ACL TCAM and 
 it has to be carved up for v4/v6 at boot time. NXOS for this platform seems 
 very buggy, so one might end up doing endless code upgrades to get past 
 showstopper bugs, only to encounter more bugs in the next build.
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Vlan Mapping

2013-09-11 Thread quinn snyder
configuration is applied per port group on each linecard.
however -- each interface (and subsequent 'show' commands) have an 
enable/disable knob so that mapping can occur on some (but not all) interfaces. 

q. 

-= sent via iphone. please excuse spelling, grammar, and brevity =-

On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:02, harbor235 harbor...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am trying to understand the VLAN mapping feature specifically on the
 7600. I read a bit but would like confirmation on how it works once
 implemented.
 
 
 When the feature is enabled it effects all ports on the linecard port ASIC,
 so it is linecard dependent.
 
 My Question:
 
 1) Do all ports have to be engaged in VLAN mapping in the port ASIC group
 once
enabled? or only trunk ports perform the actual VLAN mapping, access
 ports would
not and the configuration for vlan mapping is hidden/disabled?
 
 2) In a port ASIC group can I perform VLAN mapping from/to unique VLANS or
 am i confined to the same vlans per port ASIC group?
 
 
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Meraki? is anyone there testing it?

2013-09-10 Thread quinn snyder
i've sat in on several technical trainings and webinars -- and i'm currently 
using in my home right now.
there are some drawbacks and, like with every other product line, there are use 
cases and places where you won't use it.

the best way to get familiar with it is to view some of the technical webinars 
and then speak to an account exec.  demo gear is readily available -- and if 
you sit in the right training -- you receive a bunch of free kit.

its not for the large enterprise office -- but for a large distributed 
enterprise with small userbase per location -- it can make sense -- especially 
with limited ability for provisioning onsite at each location.  this slide 
underneath something like glue networks -- which has a similar concept -- but 
on cisco kit.

q.

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On 10-Sep-13, at 11:58 , Luis Miguel Cruz Miranda luis...@imasd.net wrote:

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 I just saw a service/product line from Cisco called Meraki.
 Looks promising but... considering how everything is getting mad with
 Snowden revelations... does it make sense to manage the network with a
 cloud app? further more, Meraki availability is just based on link
 to internet, no link, no management, I think it is highly risky but
 who knows.
 
 Anyone there testing it?
 I am curious.
 
 
 - -- 
 Luis Miguel Cruz Miranda
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 6500 mounting with cables

2013-07-21 Thread quinn snyder
On Jul 21, 2013, at 13:00, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote:

 On Sun, 21 Jul 2013, Jon Lewis wrote:
 
 This solution connects Cisco Catalyst 6800ia access switches to Cisco
 Catalyst 6500 or 6800 Series core switches. The entire configuration works
 as a single extended switch with a single management domain.
 
 That must be pissing off the Nexus unit.
 
 I thought the same thing when Cisco rolled out the 6800s about a month ago.  
 I saw a lot of features that looked like they were put in specifically to 
 poach prospective Nexus customers.

i think its just a natural evolution of where cisco is trending. 
yes -- some of the ia features resemble the n2k functionality -- but there are 
additional enhancements that make ia more of a campus tool -- rather than the 
d/c. 

i think you'll being to see futher enhancements to the platforms (c6k, nexus) 
that will start to draw clear lines between the positioning or 'general use 
case'. catalyst will continue to be the campus platform, while nexus will be 
for the d/c. there may be similar products from each line (ia vs. fex; c4k-x 
vs. n5k, etc). this will continue to grow as new nexus 
linecards/platforms/architectures are put out in the wild. 

q. 

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Re: [c-nsp] SDR//Logical Routers

2013-06-29 Thread quinn snyder
if i recall -- the asr9k only supports a single sdr (default sdr) anyway. 
asr1k only supports ios-xe -- so only the typical routing isolation is 
supported (vrf, etc). the only device that will provide 'sdr-like' emulation is 
a vdc on n7k -- though this is not a direct comparison. 

q. 

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On Jun 29, 2013, at 13:45, Tony td_mi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
   Hi 
 
 Could you please let me know if ASR - 1K Supports the
 concept of Logical Routers or SDR ?? Or else is there any
 seprate mechanism to isolate the routings between two
 domains on ASR 1K .
 
 Thanks
 Amit Dhamija
 
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Re: [c-nsp] New Catalyst 6k chassis

2013-06-28 Thread quinn snyder
per earlier emails -- this provides emulated qfp-like behaviour. i believe they 
use commodity silicon to provide this emulation, but exact make/manufacture 
escapes me. 

while this is based on bu slicks -- the 4451 loses nothing with services 
enablement (nat, h-qos, etc). i believe that all possible services have been 
enabled on the box and it will still kick packets at rate. the forwarding plane 
will exceed the max '2gbps' license -- but the entire box has been clamped to 
ensure that the licensed throughput isnt exceeded. 

q. 

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On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:04, Antoine Monnier mrantoinemonn...@gmail.com wrote:

 but does that new 4400 have hardware-based forwarding like the ASR1K or 
 software-based/generic-CPU forwarding like the ISR G2 ? if it is the latter, 
 like for the G2 I would expect the actual performance to vary greatly 
 depending on features used, packet size, etc. So I am hoping it's the 
 former...
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:52 PM, quinn snyder snyd...@gmail.com wrote:
 actual performance on the 4451 (this is the only isr4400 model) -- will be 
 up to 2gbps with the license upgrade.
 according to the bu -- this is with services enabled.
 
 q.
 
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 On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:16, Scott Voll svoll.v...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  As for the 4xxx I had this conversation before cisco live It fits
  between the isrg2 and the asr Do to bandwidth requirements and added
  features it fits well in the 500mb to gig with services..
 
 
  Ymmv
 
  Scott
 
  On Wednesday, June 26, 2013, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
 
 
  On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
 
  It just seems like the new 6k is positioned to poach prospective
  customers from the (arguably) higher-margin Nexus 7k product line.
 
  Not 'just seems' - 'is'.  Just as the new fixed-config one is positioned
  to poach prospective customers from the 4xxx-series.
 
  ;
 
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Re: [c-nsp] New Catalyst 6k chassis

2013-06-27 Thread quinn snyder
actual performance on the 4451 (this is the only isr4400 model) -- will be up 
to 2gbps with the license upgrade. 
according to the bu -- this is with services enabled. 

q. 

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On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:16, Scott Voll svoll.v...@gmail.com wrote:

 As for the 4xxx I had this conversation before cisco live It fits
 between the isrg2 and the asr Do to bandwidth requirements and added
 features it fits well in the 500mb to gig with services..
 
 
 Ymmv
 
 Scott
 
 On Wednesday, June 26, 2013, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
 
 It just seems like the new 6k is positioned to poach prospective
 customers from the (arguably) higher-margin Nexus 7k product line.
 
 Not 'just seems' - 'is'.  Just as the new fixed-config one is positioned
 to poach prospective customers from the 4xxx-series.
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5k dual sup design

2013-05-26 Thread quinn snyder

On 26-May-13, at 8:13 AM, JP Velders j...@veldersjes.net wrote:

 However, a dual-homed FEX does _not_ allow for LAGs downstream (to 
 dual home a server in active/active mode), at least on the 1st gen 
 FEXes we have, and that stupidity (together with all the STP 
 limitations) has steered me away from N2/5K for real datacenters.

enhanced vpc is supported as of 5.1(3)n1(1) on n5k.  this allows for multihomed 
fex as well as a vpc down to the actual host.
its supported across all n2k platforms.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/nexus5000/sw/layer2/513_n1_1/b_Cisco_n5k_layer2_config_gd_rel_513_N1_1_chapter_01010.html

 Do make sure to look at any vPC setup with an almost pessimistic view 
 to work out all the failure scenarios and design accordingly.

as long as you plan for the major cases of vpc-link failure (peer-link, 
peer-keepalive, and keepalive followed by peer-link) and understand the traffic 
impact (if any), you're in good shape.
from there -- as long as you understand the limitations of the topology and 
ensure your code supports it (things like single-homed fex with single-homed or 
network fault tolerant teams with 'vpc orphan-port suspend') you're golden.

 Also remember that in a dual-homed FEX setup you need to duplicate 
 everything on both N5K's, and inconsistencies can be impacting.

config-synch is your friend here.  it provides a knob to duplicate certain 
configs (namely vpc related bits) across n5k chassis to reduce the number of 
touchpoints for the access-layer configuration.
its pretty handy at times, though its worth playing with in the lab to 
understand how the pieces fit together, how to troubleshoot it, and how to 
remove/add config snippets in case something goes pear shaped.  while i've seen 
may people use it, i'm still used to having to duplicate configs across chassis 
and thats how i've stuck with it.  i don't do much in terms of operations 
though.

in terms of the inconsistencies, each n2k access-port config is given a vpc 
number (when you dual-home the n2k).  as such, its possible to grep the normal 
vpc inconsistency commands to find an issue.

q.

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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5k dual sup design

2013-05-25 Thread quinn snyder
scale is important, but it depends on your server environment. 
mostly legacy kit -- dual-home the n2k. 
servers with teamed nic -- single home the n2k and team on the server. 

it is possible as of 5.1(3)n2(1) or so to run 'enhanced vpc' (basically vpc on 
either side of the n2k) -- but i feel its overkill, unless you need a 
transitory state for single- to multi-homed compute. you pay for it on scale, 
though. 

q. 

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On May 25, 2013, at 9:07, manderson chief...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought this was a limitation on the 7k, but it makes sense that it would
 apply to the 5k as well.  Good argument, thanks!
 
 
 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM, LavoJM lav...@secureobscure.com wrote:
 
 There is a major scalability consequence of dual-homing a 2k to multiple
 5k's with VPC's.
 You can use basically half as many 2k's hanging off each 5k.
 
 3
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 manderson
 Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:33 PM
 To: Mike Hale
 Cc: cisco-nsp NSP
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5k dual sup design
 
 S
 ​orry, dual sup meaning each 2k is dual homed to each 5k.​
 
 
 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Can you clarify by what you mean by dual-sup?
 
 The 5k is single sup only isn't it?
 
 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:44 AM, manderson chief...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, we currently use a single sup design in one of our DC's and
 we're playing w/a dual sup design for single homed servers in our
 other DC.
 Cisco A/S, our SE, and myself are not particularly fond of the dual
 sup design.  However, the lead engineer appears to be set on going
 this
 route.
 
 Other than having two different architectures at two different DC's,
 and designing a network to support single homed servers, I'm looking
 for additional pros/cons as points of discussion.
 
 TIA,
 ChiefWFB
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Re: [c-nsp] EIGRP as industry standard ?

2013-03-15 Thread quinn snyder
i guess the bigger picture (and one that i've said on a few occassions 
to people both inside and outside of cisco) is what does this change?


i do work with several large enterprise customers who are entirely eigrp 
shops, but (and possibly because of) the use of eigrp has made them 
primarily cisco shops, with only special exceptions granted for other 
vendors because of a unique reason -- and with that exception comes 
consulting services because the configuration is foreign to them.  these 
customers won't be jumping to another vendor anytime soon -- because its 
what they know.  i'd assume many of these types of customers aren't 
going to be changing soon -- they are comfortable with what they know 
and the lifecycle to change would be many years down the road.


on the other hand -- sp's won't be changing because of the lack of mpls 
support within eigrp.  sure -- you can run it as an igp to carry your 
transit routes, but without hooks for things like mpls-te -- its not 
going to be implemented in the near future.  additionally -- many of 
*these* customers are 'best-of-breed' and will often look at vendor-c 
and vendor-j (as well as vendor-b) based on price and performance 
numbers -- not on who makes it.  this won't change anytime soon.


while i'm all for opening up of protocol stacks -- i feel like this is 
just goodwill to the community -- and won't really change the status 
quo -- at least for another refresh cycle or two.  it just feels like a 
'look at what we're doing' sort of thing.  i could be wrong, though (i 
am every now and then).


q.

On 03/15/2013 09:17 AM, Andrew Clark wrote:

Might find this document useful, Ge.


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps6537/ps6554/ps6599/ps6630/qa_C67-726299.html




Andrew Clark





Message: 5
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 09:47:42 -0500
From: Ge Moua moua0...@umn.edu
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] EIGRP as industry standard ?
Message-ID: 5141e30e.4020...@umn.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

It was interesting to see an IETF doc about EIGRP:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-savage-eigrp-00

I?m wondering if Cisco may be releasing this to the wider Internet
community for possible industry standards consideration. While
technically classified by Cisco as a distance-vector protocol, there are
hybrid features of EIGRP that makes it attractive over traditional
link-state IGPs like OSPF  IS-IS (which I'm a big fan of). However,
what?s not so attractive is the proprietary nature (tied to Cisco) and
lack of support on other big name vendor equipment. Maybe Cisco is
looking to change this in the horizon.

I'd be interested to know what other ppl way smarter than me thinks.
Thanks for your feedback.

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Regards,
Ge Moua
Univ of Minn Alumnus
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Re: [c-nsp] Power Supply 2 ouput has dropped

2013-01-04 Thread quinn snyder
what version of code are you running?  
i ran into something similar with c6509 running sxj.  something to do with an 
invalid pointer or something during the sharing of values between the peers.  
power supplies were 3kw powered by 240v pdu's off a 415v buss.  even during 
proper operation of the pdu -- confirmed with a multimeter for current and 
voltage -- the p/s would show ~ ½ available power.

eventually upgrading to a later sxj release fixed the issue.  cisco has a 
posted ddts -- internally at last check -- for this.  hit up your account team 
for details.

regards,
q.

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On Friday, 4 January 2013 at 12:23 PM, Farooq Razzaque wrote:

  
  
  
 Hi  
  
  
  
 I m getting the following power supply error frequently on 6513 switches 
 operating in VSS mode. It seems to be the issue with the input of power 
 supply 2.
  
 Below are the ouput of the show environment and show power .
  
  
 Anyone has experience this before
  
  
  
 83559233: Dec 12 09:37:55.985 UAE: vs_raised_alarm_to_cardstate(): NULL 
 threshold info for switch 1 power-supply 2 power-output-mode violation
 83559234: Dec 12 09:37:55.949 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-PSOUTPUTDROP: Power 
 supply 2 output has dropped
  
  
 83559235: Dec 12 09:37:55.949 UAE:
  
  
  
 %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-INPUTCHANGE: Power supply 2 input has changed. Power 
 capacity adjusted to 2671.20W
  
 83559236: Dec 12 09:37:55.989 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-PSREDUNDANTMISMATCH: 
 power supplies rated outputs do not match.
 83559237: Dec 12 09:37:55.989 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-PSNOREDUNDANCY: Power 
 supplies are not in full redundancy, power usage exceeds lower capacity supply
  
    
 83559238: Dec 12 09:37:57.997 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-INPUTCHANGE: Power supply 
 2 input has changed. Power capacity adjusted to 5771.64W
 83559239: Dec 12 09:37:58.001 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-PSREDUNDANTBOTHSUPPLY: in 
 power-redundancy mode, system is operating on both power supplies
  
  
 .
  
  
 83559240: Dec 12 09:38:02.084 UAE: vs_raised_alarm_to_cardstate(): NULL 
 threshold info for switch 1 power-supply 2 power-output-mode violation
  
  
 83559241: Dec 12 09:38:02.045 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-PSOUTPUTDROP: Power 
 supply 2 output has dropped
 83559242: Dec 12 09:38:02.045 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-INPUTCHANGE: Power supply 
 2 input has changed. Power capacity adjusted to 2671.20W
 83559243: Dec 12 09:38:02.089 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-PSREDUNDANTMISMATCH: 
 power supplies rated outputs do not match.
 83559244: Dec 12 09:38:02.093 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-PSNOREDUNDANCY: Power 
 supplies are not in full redundancy, power usage exceeds lower capacity supply
  
  
 83559245: Dec 12 09:38:04.112 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-INPUTCHANGE: Power supply 
 2 input has changed. Power capacity adjusted to 5771.64W
  
  
 83559246: Dec 12 09:38:04.112 UAE: %C6KPWR-SW1_SP-4-PSREDUNDANTBOTHSUPPLY: in 
 power-redundancy mode, system is operating on both power supplies.
  
  
 SW01# sh environment switch 1 status power-supply 2
 switch 1 power-supply 2:  
 switch 1 power-supply 2 fan-fail: OK
 switch 1 power-supply 2 power-input: AC low  
 switch 1 power-supply 2 power-output-mode: low
 switch 1 power-supply 2 power-output-fail: OK  
  
  
 SW01#sh power system  
 power redundancy mode = redundant
 system power redundancy operationally = non-redundant
 system power total = 5771.64 Watts (137.42 Amps @ 42V)
 system power used = 3451.56 Watts (82.18 Amps @ 42V)
 system power available = 2320.08 Watts (55.24 Amps @ 42V)
 Power-Capacity PS-Fan Output Oper
 PS Type Watts A @42V Status Status State
  -- --- -- -- -- -
 1 WS-CAC-6000W 5771.64 137.42 OK OK on  
  
  
 2 WS-CAC-6000W 2671.20 63.60 OK OK on
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 SW01# sh environment switch 1 status power-supply 2
  
 switch 1 power-supply 2 fan-fail: OKswitch 1 power-supply 2: fan-fail: OK
 switch 1 power-supply 2 power-input: AC high  
 switch 1 power-supply 2 power-output-mode: high
 switch 1 power-supply 2 power-output-fail: OK
  
    
 SW01#sh power  
 system power redundancy mode = redundant
 system power total = 5771.64 Watts (137.42 Amps @ 42V)
 system power used = 3451.56 Watts (82.18 Amps @ 42V)
 system power available = 2320.08 Watts (55.24 Amps @ 42V)
 Power-Capacity PS-Fan Output Oper
 PS Type Watts A @42V Status Status State
  -- --- -- -- -- -
  
 1 WS-CAC-6000W 5771.64 137.42 OK OK on  
 2 WS-CAC-6000W 5771.64 137.42 OK OK on  
  
  
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR1006 ISSU upgrade fail

2012-05-02 Thread quinn snyder
issu from 2.x train to 3.x train is unsupported.  this is outlined in
issu notes for asr1k platform.

google 'asr1k issu compatibility tables' for info.

regards,
q.

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On May 2, 2012, at 20:42, CiscoNSP_list CiscoNSP_list
cisconsp_l...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Hi Guys,

 ASR1006 dual RP/Dual ESP - Followed this guide: 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/asr1000/configuration/guide/chassis/issu.html
(Using ISSU to Perform a Consolidated Package Upgrade in a Dual Route 
 Processor Configuration)

 Current XE version: asr1000rp1-adventerprisek9.02.01.01.122-33.XNA1 and 
 upgrading to:  asr1000rp1-adventerprisek9.03.05.02.S.152-1.S2

 I got to step 5 (issu load version rp 1 file 
 stby-bootflash:asr1000rp1-adventerprisek9.03.05.02.S.152-1.S2.bin), but 
 received the following error:

 *May
 2 18:01:50.246: %ASR1000_SPA-3-INVALID_SLOT_NUM: slot= 15, max slot = 14

 -Traceback= 1#3c0e9c526e153a8453b1a7f7d5b8cf1f  :1000+61C3B8 
 :1000+61A51C
 :1000+61A8A0 :1000+25D7028 :1000+2433E5C :1000+2433E98
 iosd_unix:C25F000+13F60 iosd_unix:C25F000+11690 pthread:BF56000+5DA0


 *May  2 18:01:50.248: %ASR1000_SPA-3-INVALID_SUBSLOT_NUM: subslot= 15, max
 subslot = 4

 -Traceback= 1#3c0e9c526e153a8453b1a7f7d5b8cf1f  :1000+61C3B8
 :1000+61A51C :1000+61A8A0 :1000+25D7030 :1000+2433E5C
 :1000+2433E98 iosd_unix:C25F000+13F60 iosd_unix:C25F000+11690
 pthread:BF56000+5DA0


 And the standby RP just continues to reload  (loop), and the above error is 
 printed, then reloads again

 Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.



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Re: [c-nsp] No Link between SFP-10G-LRM and X2-10GB-LX4?

2011-10-05 Thread quinn snyder
are you sure that its supported?
lx4 == wwdm optic == 4x2.5gbps channels using wideband muxing.

additionally, when looking at datasheets for x2 and sfp+ modules, one
will see that lx4 optic mentions 4 lanes, launching in the 1300nm
space and a separate pluggable for x2-10gb-lrm.
sfp+ only mentions single lane in 1310nm space.

i dont believe the two are compatible. would suggest looking at
x2-10gb-lrm= for compatibility.

regards,
q.

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On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:21, ci...@entrap.de ci...@entrap.de wrote:

 Greetings,

 I have a 6509 with an X6716-10GE Card equipped with Cisco X2-10GB-LX4 10GE
 modules and a Cisco 2960S-48TD-L Switch with two Cisco SFP-10G-LRM
 modules.

 Right now I am not able to get an active link between these X2 and SFP
 modules, it stays down/down (notconnected). I instantly get a link when
 connecting X2 to X2 or SFP+ to SFP+ Module. I tried nonegotiate but this
 didn't help.. The 6509 runs IOS 12.2(33)SXI7, the 2960 IOS 12.2(55)SE3.
 Cisco says these modules are compatible to each other..

 Has anyone seen this before? Any hints or ideas?

 Thanks,
 Holger

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Re: [c-nsp] GBIC requires restart after link loss

2011-10-03 Thread quinn snyder
check into the following bug

bug id: CSCti80308

i have hit this in other c4k chassis with different cards, but the result is
the same.

regards,
q.

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On Oct 3, 2011, at 17:55, Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a following setup:

WS-C2960G-24TC-L[Gi0/22] - [Gi3/4]WS-C4506

SFP in WS-C2960G-24TC-L is a noname 1000BASE-LX10 transceiver working
thanks to service unsupported-transceiver. GBIC in WS-C4506 is an
Avago AFCT-5611Z 1000BASE-LX10. Linecard model in WS-C4506 is
WS-X4306-GB.

I had a situation where WS-C2960G-24TC-L reloaded, but link between
WS-C2960G-24TC-L and WS-C4506 did not came up until I did shutdown
and no shutdown to port Gi3/4 in WS-C4506. I have seen similar
behaviour with GBIC transceivers on WS-X4306 linecard as well(in
another WS-C4506) and for example in case there is a fibre cut between
the switches, once the cable is repaired, sometimes one needs to make
shutdown and no shutdow to GBIC port in order for line protocol to
come up.

As I understand, in case there is no Rx signal to the GBIC, the Tx is
still operational(tested this with light meter and in case of
1000BASE-SX one is even able to see the red light constantly on) and
both ends should see each other.


Anybody else seen something like this? What might be the reason behind
this behaviour? How common is this with SFP's? Are there GBIC's with
chip set design preventing such problems?


regards,
martin
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Re: [c-nsp] N7k as Enterprise core MPLS P/PE

2011-09-29 Thread quinn snyder
On Sep 29, 2011, at 13:29, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:

 Tim Durack tdur...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are currently using the C6K in this role. The N7K is looking like
 the logical replacement.

 Likwise. Hence my asking! I'm a bit disappointed that the current 10g cards 
 on the n7k are only 8 (non-blocking) ports per slot though. Anyone know if 
 there's a higher density non-blocking option coming down the pipe?
 --
 Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and typos.


i'd assume that with fab2 shipping in n7009, new m2 linecards cant be
far away -- as i have heard 'soon' as an eta for fab2 in n7010/7018
chassis.

q.

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Re: [c-nsp] Funny problem w/ SFP link on Nexus 5548

2011-09-21 Thread quinn snyder
n5548/n5596 support 1/10gbe on all ports in chassis, as well as
converged ethernet (assuming appropriate licensing is installed, of
course). [0]

regards,
q.

[0] 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps9441/ps9670/data_sheet_c78-618603.html

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On Sep 21, 2011, at 18:32, Chuck Church chuckchu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anything showing up in the Cisco log?  I'm not sure about the 5548, but on
 the 5010/5020s, only certain ports will do both 1 gig and 10 gig.  Not sure
 if a non-1 gig capable port would accept the speed 1000 command.  Those
 symptoms sound like the speed 1000 is actually missing.  Do the SPFs on each
 side have matching wavelength?


 Thanks,

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
 vinny_abe...@dell.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:28 PM
 To: g...@gmx.de; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Funny problem w/ SFP link on Nexus 5548

 Is Gig-E auto negotiation set the same on both devices? It sounds kind of
 like the Nortel has Gig-E auto negotiation disabled, so it will show link as
 soon as it sees light. Your NX might be trying to auto negotiate which won't
 work if the other side isn't doing it as well. Maybe try disabling auto neg
 on the NX.

 -Vinny

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 [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Garry
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 3:43 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] Funny problem w/ SFP link on Nexus 5548

 Hi,

 I'm currently at a customer who got a 5548 with 2248 FEX and several
 2960S connected to the 5548, everything working fine. Anyway, in order
 to migrate from the old switch infrastructure, we tried to interconnect
 them to the 5548, which is where my problem started - the link just
 won't go up on the NX ...
 The other side is a Nortel core switch, with 8616SXE card for fiber
 links. On the Nortel, the link light goes on when I connect the
 switches, but the Nexus doesn't do anything. SFPs are the same as for
 the links to the 2960S, OEM/compatible 1G optics. Ports are configured
 for 1G (speed 1000), same as for the 2960S. When I put the same SFP in
 a 2960S, the link comes up at once.
 What am I missing here?

 Thanks, Garry
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Re: [c-nsp] nexus material and coloured CWDM 10G SFP+

2011-09-09 Thread quinn snyder
holemans --

via 'sh int ex/y trans det' one can scrape the dom information from
the pluggable, assuming the pluggable supports dom.

regards,
q.

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On Sep 9, 2011, at 2:24, Holemans Wim wim.holem...@ua.ac.be wrote:

 Recently we started using CWDM coloured 10G SFP+ interfaces (smartoptics) on 
 our campus network (in 4900M with OneX convertors). This works just fine 
 although Cisco probably will tell us that is not supported...
 I'm wondering if someone already did the same thing on nexus 5xxx switches, 
 especially 5010 and 5548. We are planning to build a new backbone between 
 different datacenters based on nexus material (5010 in 2 remote datacenters, 
 5548 in the central datacenter). We could use the transponders of our CWDM 
 vendor and use local SR SFP+ interfaces but these transponders cost about 3x 
 times more than coloured SFP+ interfaces (and these don't com cheap). Using 
 coloured SFP+ interfaces moves control/monitoring of the fiber losses  to the 
 end device but we can live with that.
 Second question : can you read out fiber losses on a nexus ? (cfr show int 
 transc in IOS)

 Greetings,

 Wim Holemans
 Netwerkdienst Universiteit Antwerpen
 Network Services University of Antwerp

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Re: [c-nsp] A bit of 6513-E confusion

2011-08-17 Thread quinn snyder
c6513-e behaves same as non-e chassis without sup2t[0]

[0]
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/qa_c67-6214
10.pdf

regards,
q.

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[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Drew Weaver
Sent: 17 August, 2011 11:28
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: [c-nsp] A bit of 6513-E confusion

With a 6513-E would you be able run it with:

2xSUP720-3BXLs
10xWS-6748(/w DFCs)
1x WS-6708?

I don't need the 10/100/1000 ports to be line rate either.

I know in the regular 6513 you can only put the higher-end cards in the last
few slots, but I can't really find out if that is still true on the 6513-E.

Has anyone been brave enough to try it and could you share your results?

thanks,
-Drew


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Re: [c-nsp] sup2T software release notes have hit

2011-07-11 Thread Quinn Snyder
dfc-based linecards will require dfc4 to function in sup2t chassis (if
supported by software). any 6700-series cards supported in sup2t will
need this upgrade.
6708 linecard cleverly omitted from upgrade path -- this, as stated,
will need to be replaced with 6908 line-rate card -- or used in
sup720-based chassis only.

regards,
q.

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On Jul 11, 2011, at 14:54, Peter Rathlev pe...@rathlev.dk wrote:

 On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 23:19 +0200, Simon Leinen wrote:
 Thanks for the heads-up! There's some more technical information about
 the Supervisor 2T in the White Papers section:

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/products/hw/switches/ps708/prod_white_papers_list.html

 Yeah...:

 
  The Supervisor 2T provides backward compatibility with the existing
  WS-X6700 Series Linecards (with the exception of the WS-X6708-10G,
  which will be replaced by the new WS-X6908-10G, discussed later), as
  well as select WS-X6100 Series Linecards only.

  ...

  Note: Due to compatibility issues, the WS-X6708-10GE-3C/3CXL cannot be
  inserted in a Supervisor 2T system, and must be upgraded to the new
  WS-X6908-10GE-2T/2TXL.
 

 The 6708 card isn't mentioned elsewhere on the page. Specifically not in
 Table 6. DFC4 Field Upgradable Linecard. Anybody know what that means?
 Do we have to buy new 6908 cards instead? Or will there be a field
 upgrade?

 --
 Peter


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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7010 SVI issues

2011-07-09 Thread Quinn Snyder
depending on code version, i've seen the n7k not create the layer-2
vlan associated with the svi, even allowing you to place it on a
trunk.

can you confirm that the layer-2 vlan is in place and created?

regards,
q.

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On Jul 9, 2011, at 8:52, Renelson Panosky panocisc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a couple nexus pod up and running so i just created two more SVI in
 my Nexus 7010 with the following configuratons.  All my other SVIs are
 configured exactly the same way and all of them are UP UP but the two new
 one i just add.  They are  all added to all my trunks and all my trunks are
 UP UP.  I do know on some devices in the IOS platform the SVI will not come
 up until you put a node on it (plug something in oe of the ports assign to
 that vlan.) but int he same token some the other SVIs have no nodes on them
 and they are UP UP and i can ping them.  Any input would be greatly
 apprecisted


 interface Vlan2
  no shutdown
  description XXX
  no ip redirects
  ip address 10.100.XX.XX/25
  ip router eigrp 100
  ip passive-interface eigrp 100
  hsrp 2
preempt delay minimum 30
priority 110
ip 10.XXX.XX.XX
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Re: [c-nsp] multichassis lacp

2011-07-05 Thread Quinn Snyder
2960-s.
stacking was afflicted with serious bugs up until a few months ago.
seems to be stable with current code.

q.

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On Jul 5, 2011, at 18:10, chris stand cstand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes,

  The nature of the 3750 with its stacking cables does allow mlacp.

 I also think there is a new stackable 2900 S switch that can do it as well.


 Have you actually done it with the 3750? I cannot find anything on cco
 about 3750  mlacp.

 --Tim Riendeau

 On 7/5/11 4:55 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:

 On 05/07/2011 19:27, Timothy Riendeau wrote:
 Anyone know where to find a list of switches that support MLACP
 particularly
 metro ethernet switches?

 Catalyst 3750
 Catalyst 6500 with VSS supervisor
 Nexus 7000

 Nick




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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7018 spanning tree and unicast flooding

2011-06-27 Thread Quinn Snyder
prashanth --

i see that you have all ports as 'network' ports. i assume this is
done by invoking

spanning-trew port type network

under the interface configuration stanza or so. in n7k land, this
invokes a feature called 'bridge-assurance' and it must be explicitly
enabled on the other end. it is a feature that can only be enabled
globally on n7k and is enabled by default if you run any vpc services
on n7k.

that being said -- your issue may be caused by this configuration
statement. bridge-assurance is only supported on certain versions of
c6k, so i'd say that you have to change this. [0]

please set all ports that dont have bridge-assurance on both ends to
the following

spanning-tree port type normal

and see if this solves your problem.

regards,
q.

[0] https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2000819

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On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:05, Prashanth kumar smarni7...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am trying to troubleshoot a issue with  spanning tree topology change and
 unicast flooding during the topology change which I have not seen in 6500.
 I am new to nexus series.

 +--++-+
 |  | ||
 | Root | | Secondry |
 | SW1 || Root|
 |  || SW2   |
 +--+++
 |  /
 | /
 | /
 | span blocked
 +---/---+
 |  Access Switch   |
 ||
 +--+

 We have a simple topology of two Nexus 7018  aggregation routers in DC and
 access-switches connected to two of them as shown above. There are multiple
 VLAN's trunked to the access  switches.  All vlans are trunked between Nexus
 switch as well.  The Access swtich connection to
 second 7018 is blocked.  We run PRSTP+ and all ports on core switch are type
 network.  The issue we have is when ever we bring up a new port  or port
 state changes on 7018 there is TCN generated and both the switch flush the
 cam table and it takes about 15 to 30 second to re-learn the new mac. during
 this time we see lot of unicast flooding on all the switches/load balancer
 which are connected. Is this a limitation on Nexus 7000 or is this normal
 behavior. I have not seen this on 6500.

 Thanks you in advance


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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 7018 spanning tree and unicast flooding

2011-06-27 Thread Quinn Snyder
am i to assume that your prior statement is incorrect then, wherein you
stated that all ports on the core switch are set to type network?
 regardless of whether they are up, down, or lateral -- if the far end
device doesn't support 'bridge-assurance', then the port should be of
'normal' type.

additionally, are you running any vpc services on the n7k?  have you ensured
that by bringing up the new interface you're not causing the spf
recalculation by some spanning-tree vlan priority command misconfig?  i can
safely say that i've done exactly what you are doing on n7018 running vpc
(nx-os 5.0(2a) and 5.1(3)), with no packet loss or spf reconvergence. this
was run in a vdc environment with that particular vdc running eigrp, hsrpv2,
vpc, lacp, udld, and rpvst+.

configs and nx-os versions would be helpful here.

regards,
q.

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On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:12, Prashanth kumar smarni7...@gmail.com wrote:

Quimm,

Spanning tree type is normal for all the ports connected to downstream
switched.

spanning-tree port type normal

-Thanks
Prashanth

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Quinn Snyder snyd...@gmail.com wrote:

 prashanth --

 i see that you have all ports as 'network' ports. i assume this is
 done by invoking

 spanning-trew port type network

 under the interface configuration stanza or so. in n7k land, this
 invokes a feature called 'bridge-assurance' and it must be explicitly
 enabled on the other end. it is a feature that can only be enabled
 globally on n7k and is enabled by default if you run any vpc services
 on n7k.

 that being said -- your issue may be caused by this configuration
 statement. bridge-assurance is only supported on certain versions of
 c6k, so i'd say that you have to change this. [0]

 please set all ports that dont have bridge-assurance on both ends to
 the following

 spanning-tree port type normal

 and see if this solves your problem.

 regards,
 q.

 [0] https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2000819

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 On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:05, Prashanth kumar smarni7...@gmail.com wrote:

  I am trying to troubleshoot a issue with  spanning tree topology change
 and
  unicast flooding during the topology change which I have not seen in
 6500.
  I am new to nexus series.
 
  +--++-+
  |  | ||
  | Root | | Secondry |
  | SW1 || Root|
  |  || SW2   |
  +--+++
  |  /
  | /
  | /
  | span blocked
  +---/---+
  |  Access Switch   |
  ||
  +--+
 
  We have a simple topology of two Nexus 7018  aggregation routers in DC
 and
  access-switches connected to two of them as shown above. There are
 multiple
  VLAN's trunked to the access  switches.  All vlans are trunked between
 Nexus
  switch as well.  The Access swtich connection to
  second 7018 is blocked.  We run PRSTP+ and all ports on core switch are
 type
  network.  The issue we have is when ever we bring up a new port  or port
  state changes on 7018 there is TCN generated and both the switch flush
 the
  cam table and it takes about 15 to 30 second to re-learn the new mac.
 during
  this time we see lot of unicast flooding on all the switches/load
 balancer
  which are connected. Is this a limitation on Nexus 7000 or is this normal
  behavior. I have not seen this on 6500.
 
  Thanks you in advance
 
 
  PK
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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco N5548P with N2248TP Fex not found

2011-06-03 Thread Quinn Snyder
not seeing the vpc peer-link in th config, nor a layer-3 address for
the keepalive link to communicate across.

if you are planning to use vpc -- there are a number of things wrong.
i guess a deeper understanding of your topology and what you are
attempting to accomplish is in order.

q.

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On Jun 3, 2011, at 12:09, Renelson Panosky panocisc...@gmail.com wrote:

 First I want to thank everyone for their help yesterday but i am still
 having some issues with some of them.  Some of my fex are not showing up
 even though all my configs are similar.  I've posted the config below
 please any help would be appreciated.

 sho run

 !Command: show running-config
 !Time: Fri Jun  3 18:58:29 2011

 version 5.0(2)N2(1)
 feature fcoe

 feature telnet
 cfs eth distribute
 feature interface-vlan
 feature lacp
 feature vpc
 feature lldp
 feature fex

 username admin password 5 $1$S9NNLG/i$NkudlhPrwchGiwJlvZMWW0  role
 network-admin
 no password strength-check
 ip domain-lookup
 ip domain-lookup
 hostname N5K-Ashswd03
 class-map type qos class-fcoe
 class-map type queuing class-fcoe
  match qos-group 1
 class-map type queuing class-all-flood
  match qos-group 2
 class-map type queuing class-ip-multicast
  match qos-group 2
 class-map type network-qos class-fcoe
  match qos-group 1
 class-map type network-qos class-all-flood
  match qos-group 2
 class-map type network-qos class-ip-multicast
  match qos-group 2
 fex 101
  pinning max-links 1
  description FEX0101
  type N2248T
 fex 103
  pinning max-links 1
  description FEX0103
  type N2248T
 fex 105
  pinning max-links 1
  description FEX0105
 fex 107
  pinning max-links 1
  description FEX0108
 fex 109
  pinning max-links 2
  description FeX0110
 snmp-server user admin network-admin auth md5
 0xd9147e119e1d5594801dd5fb5a7ce51a
 priv 0xd9147e119e1d5594801dd5fb5a7ce51a localizedkey
 snmp-server enable traps entity fru

 vrf context management
 vlan 1
 vpc domain 1
  peer-keepalive destination 10.10.10.3

 interface Vlan1

 interface port-channel1
  description to Nexus7k-coresw1
  switchport mode trunk
  speed 1

 interface port-channel2
  description to Nexus7k-coresw2
  switchport mode trunk
  speed 1

 interface port-channel11
  description vc to HP-Blade-1
  switchport mode trunk
  vpc 12

 interface port-channel12
  description vc to HP-Blade-2
  switchport mode trunk
  vpc 13

 interface port-channel101
  description connected N2248TP 101
  switchport mode fex-fabric
  fex associate 101

 interface port-channel103
  description Connected N2248TP 103
  switchport mode fex-fabric
  fex associate 103

 interface port-channel105
  description connected N2248TP 105
  switchport mode fex-fabric
  fex associate 105

 interface port-channel107
  description connected N2248TP 107
  switchport mode fex-fabric
  fex associate 107

 interface fc2/1

 interface fc2/2

 interface fc2/3

 interface fc2/4

 interface fc2/5

 interface fc2/6

 interface fc2/7

 interface fc2/8

 interface Ethernet1/1

 interface Ethernet1/2

 interface Ethernet1/3

 interface Ethernet1/4

 interface Ethernet1/5

 interface Ethernet1/6

 interface Ethernet1/7

 interface Ethernet1/8

 interface Ethernet1/9

 interface Ethernet1/10

 interface Ethernet1/11

 interface Ethernet1/12

 interface Ethernet1/13

 interface Ethernet1/14

 interface Ethernet1/15

 interface Ethernet1/16

 interface Ethernet1/17

 interface Ethernet1/18

 interface Ethernet1/19

 interface Ethernet1/20

 interface Ethernet1/21

 interface Ethernet1/22

 interface Ethernet1/23

 interface Ethernet1/24

 interface Ethernet1/25

 interface Ethernet1/26

 interface Ethernet1/27

 interface Ethernet1/28

 interface Ethernet1/29

 interface Ethernet1/30

 interface Ethernet1/31

 interface Ethernet1/32

 interface Ethernet2/1
  description Connected N2248TP 101
  fex associate 101
  switchport mode fex-fabric
  channel-group 101

 interface Ethernet2/2
  description Connected 2248TP 103
  fex associate 103
  switchport mode fex-fabric
  channel-group 103

 interface Ethernet2/3
  description connected N2248TP 105
  fex associate 105
  switchport mode fex-fabric
  channel-group 105

 interface Ethernet2/4
  fex associate 107
  switchport mode fex-fabric
  channel-group 107

 interface Ethernet2/5

 interface Ethernet2/6

 interface Ethernet2/7

 interface Ethernet2/8

 interface mgmt0

 interface Ethernet103/1/1

 interface Ethernet103/1/2

 interface Ethernet103/1/3

 interface Ethernet103/1/4

 interface Ethernet103/1/5

 interface Ethernet103/1/6

 interface Ethernet103/1/7

 interface Ethernet103/1/8

 interface Ethernet103/1/9

 interface Ethernet103/1/10

 interface Ethernet103/1/11

 interface Ethernet103/1/12

 interface Ethernet103/1/13

 interface Ethernet103/1/14

 interface Ethernet103/1/15

 interface Ethernet103/1/16

 interface Ethernet103/1/17

 interface Ethernet103/1/18

 interface Ethernet103/1/19

 interface Ethernet103/1/20

 interface 

Re: [c-nsp] disabling GigE negotiation on NX-OS

2011-04-15 Thread quinn snyder
testing in my lab now -- simple back to back copper over glc-t between 
n5020 running 4.2(1)n2(1) and asr1002 running 3.1.0s


=
asr1002-1#sh run int gig 0/0/3
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 74 bytes
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0/3
 no ip address
 no negotiation auto
end

asr1002-1#sh int gig 0/0/3
GigabitEthernet0/0/3 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is 4XGE-BUILT-IN, address is 588d.09ef.5103 (bia 588d.09ef.5103)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive not supported
  Full Duplex, 1000Mbps, link type is force-up, media type is T
  output flow-control is on, input flow-control is on
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:00:00, output never, output hang never
  Last clearing of show interface counters never
  Input queue: 0/375/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 37 packets input, 5077 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
 0 watchdog, 37 multicast, 0 pause input
 0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 4 interface resets
 0 unknown protocol drops
 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out



n5020-1# sh run int e1/1

!Command: show running-config interface Ethernet1/1
!Time: Fri Apr 15 20:46:47 2011

version 4.2(1)N2(1)

interface Ethernet1/1
  speed 1000

n5020-1# sh int e1/1
Ethernet1/1 is up
  Hardware: 1000/1 Ethernet, address: 0005.73a1.6508 (bia 
0005.73a1.6508)

  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA
  Port mode is access
  full-duplex, 1000 Mb/s, media type is 1/10g
  Beacon is turned off
  Input flow-control is off, output flow-control is off
  Rate mode is dedicated
  Switchport monitor is off
  Last link flapped 00:01:54
  Last clearing of show interface counters 00:03:58
  30 seconds input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  30 seconds output rate 232 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  Load-Interval #2: 5 minute (300 seconds)
input rate 0 bps, 0 pps; output rate 32 bps, 0 pps
  RX
0 unicast packets  0 multicast packets  0 broadcast packets
0 input packets  0 bytes
0 jumbo packets  0 storm suppression packets
0 runts  0 giants  0 CRC  0 no buffer
0 input error  0 short frame  0 overrun   0 underrun  0 ignored
0 watchdog  0 bad etype drop  0 bad proto drop  0 if down drop
0 input with dribble  0 input discard
0 Rx pause
  TX
0 unicast packets  46 multicast packets  0 broadcast packets
46 output packets  6528 bytes
0 jumbo packets
0 output errors  0 collision  0 deferred  0 late collision
0 lost carrier  0 no carrier  0 babble
0 Tx pause
  1 interface resets
=

the asr is as carrier as i get -- and i don't have a 5548 to dink 
with, so take this for what its worth, but i think that tony is spot on.


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On 04/15/2011 12:28 PM, Tony Varriale wrote:

On 4/15/2011 1:07 PM, Gert Doering wrote:

Hi,

yesterday, one of our customers tried to move two GigE-on-fiber circuits
from a Catalyst 4507 to a new Nexus 5548.

The other end terminates on some carrier gear (and is then multiplexed
in whatever ways across the city).

After moving the circuit, the link didn't come up on the Nexus, but
the carrier gear *did* show link. I wasn't on-site, so I couldn't
investigate myself, but it smells very much like GigE link negotiation
being disabled on the carrier gear - carriers love that.

Of course we do not have access to either the Catalyst nor the Nexus,
but it's our duty to make it work (after all, we provide the fiber
patches!). So I'd like him to test disabling link negotiation on the
Nexus, but don't know how to do that - no access to any NX-OS gear yet.

On CatOS, this is set port negotiation x/y disable.

On IOS, it's int giga x/y / speed nonegotiate.

-- How to do it on NX-OS?

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/nexus5000/sw/configuration/guide/cli_rel_4_0_1a/BasicEthernet.html


refers to Layer 1 autonegotiation, but no word on turning it off...

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Re: [c-nsp] disabling GigE negotiation on NX-OS

2011-04-15 Thread quinn snyder

dug through some kit -- found sfp-ge-s and a 62.5um cable.
same interfaces being used.

link came up for me.  again -- this is with n5000, not n5500, but i 
wouldn't think too great of a difference?


===
asr1002-1(config)#do sh run int gig 0/0/3
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 74 bytes
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0/3
 no ip address
 no negotiation auto
end

asr1002-1(config)#do sh int gig 0/0/3
GigabitEthernet0/0/3 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is 4XGE-BUILT-IN, address is 588d.09ef.5103 (bia 588d.09ef.5103)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive not supported
  Full Duplex, 1000Mbps, link type is force-up, media type is SX
  output flow-control is on, input flow-control is on
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:00:01, output never, output hang never
  Last clearing of show interface counters never
  Input queue: 0/375/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 36 packets input, 4800 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
 0 watchdog, 36 multicast, 0 pause input
 0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 5 interface resets
 0 unknown protocol drops
 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

-

n5020-1# sh run int e1/1

!Command: show running-config interface Ethernet1/1
!Time: Fri Apr 15 21:16:15 2011

version 4.2(1)N2(1)

interface Ethernet1/1
  speed 1000

n5020-1# sh int e 1/1
Ethernet1/1 is up
  Hardware: 1000/1 Ethernet, address: 0005.73a1.6508 (bia 
0005.73a1.6508)

  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA
  Port mode is access
  full-duplex, 1000 Mb/s, media type is 1/10g
  Beacon is turned off
  Input flow-control is off, output flow-control is off
  Rate mode is dedicated
  Switchport monitor is off
  Last link flapped 00:03:47
  Last clearing of show interface counters 00:33:26
  30 seconds input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  30 seconds output rate 184 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  Load-Interval #2: 5 minute (300 seconds)
input rate 0 bps, 0 pps; output rate 96 bps, 0 pps
  RX
0 unicast packets  1 multicast packets  0 broadcast packets
1 input packets  81 bytes
0 jumbo packets  0 storm suppression packets
0 runts  0 giants  0 CRC  0 no buffer
0 input error  0 short frame  0 overrun   0 underrun  0 ignored
0 watchdog  0 bad etype drop  0 bad proto drop  0 if down drop
0 input with dribble  0 input discard
0 Rx pause
  TX
0 unicast packets  218 multicast packets  0 broadcast packets
218 output packets  32576 bytes
0 jumbo packets
0 output errors  0 collision  0 deferred  0 late collision
0 lost carrier  0 no carrier  0 babble
0 Tx pause
  2 interface resets
===

i've used this article in the past[0].  while dated -- it seems to have 
some good information.  it doesn't appear that speed nonegotiate is 
accepted under the 4.2 code on n7k -- so i'd assume similar parity in 
4.2 on n5k platform.


i tried to pull of the optic information from my n5k -- but its not 
coming out clean.  however, when i use this transceiver in n7k, i get 
the following output



n7k-1# sh int e 1/25 trans
Ethernet1/25
transceiver is present
type is 1000base-SX
name is CISCO-FINISAR
part number is FTLF8519P2BNL-C6
revision is B
serial number is FNS143907J7
nominal bitrate is 1300 MBit/sec
cisco id is --
cisco extended id number is 4
==

when i try to configure speed on n7k running 5.1(3) code, i get the 
following options (which may lend more insight into why this works


===
n7k-1(config)# int e 1/25
n7k-1(config-if)# speed ?
  10 10Mb/s
  100100Mb/s
  1000   1Gb/s
  1  10Gb/s
  auto   Auto negotiate speed


not sure if hard-setting the speed and negotiation are mutually 
exclusive -- but i'm just passing along what i'm seeing.


q.

[0]http://www.netcraftsmen.net/component/content/article/69-data-center/807-migrating-to-nexus-7000-from-catalyst-6500-and-4500-switches.html

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On 04/15/2011 02:01 PM, Gert Doering wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 01:44:03PM -0700, quinn snyder wrote:

testing in my lab now

Re: [c-nsp] Non-disruptive ISSU for Nexus 5000

2011-03-13 Thread quinn snyder

from the release notes -- i see the following[0]

STP can not be enabled on switches under the parent Cisco Nexus 5000 
Series switch.


it seems that since you've got your n5010 underneath the n5020, you've 
got stp processes running and designated ports being assigned to the 
upstream interfaces.  this has bitten me in the past when doing an 
in-band keepalive, rather than using mgmt0.  in my case, since the 
keepalives were simply sent between the n5k pair using a vlan that 
wasn't extended an an svi using a /31, i disabled stp on that vlan and 
restored my issu ability.


now -- it seems that this command is valid under 4.2(1)n2(1)

n5k-1(config-if)# spanning-tree port type edge ?
  CR
  trunk  Consider the interface as edge port (enable portfast) even 
in 	trunk mode


you may be able to put something together through the use of this 
command and disabling spanning-tree -- since this is meant to combat the 
trunks required for virtualised hosts.


it also should be noted that issu wasn't possible on n5k platform until 
4.2(1)n1(1).  anything prior and you'll only be able to perform the 
upgrade with disruptive behaviour.


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On 03/13/2011 06:02 PM, Church, Charles wrote:

All,

I'm having a hard time getting a non-disruptive upgrade to happen on
my Nexus 5010s and 5020s.  I'd really like to have non-disruptive, as we've
got SAN attached Windows servers which tend to blue screen if they're unable
to reach their iSCSI disks across the Nexus devices for more than a couple
seconds.  The topology has a pair of 5020s peered together, with a
downstream 5010 pair peered together.  The NetApp SAN is a VPC off the
5020s, and the servers are multiple VPCs (one for each enclosure) off the
5010s.  There are no redundant links, all VPCs.  All ports on the 5010s and
5020s are designated forwarding.  The connections into the SAN and servers
are trunks, thus not really able to fall into the 'edge' category needed for
a non-disruptive ISSU.  It seems a trunk can't be an edge port, even if it
should be.  Since I've got no redundant links, should I consider disabling
spanning tree all together until the upgrade is complete?  I've got
redundancy into all chassis, so the loss of one switch doing a 'disruptive'
upgrade is ok, but my concern is the peer switch will drop the VPCs as well
(like when you've got temporarily-mismatching things like QoS, etc).  Any
other way to consider?

Thanks,

Chuck Church
Network Planning Engineer, CCIE #8776
Southcom
Harris IT Services
1210 N. Parker Rd.
Greenville, SC 29609
Office: 864-335-9473
Cell: 864-266-3978
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus equipment in corporate networks

2011-03-12 Thread quinn snyder
been using n7k deployed with vdc to have a physical collapsed core in a 
logical two-tier (distribution, core) model.  we've used this to keep 
used features to a minimum within each context (i.e. i'm not going to 
run vpc within my core context).


also deployed vdc to create isolation between production and test/dev 
server environments.


my pitch/reasoning is anytime you want consolidation of airgapped 
chassis into a single device -- you can use vdc.


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On 03/12/2011 12:26 PM, Chris Evans wrote:

Can anyone provide their reasoning for using VDC? Everytime we review it
there is no compelling reason for us to use it over a vrf.

Interested in seeing others opinions.

Thanks
On Mar 12, 2011 1:14 PM, Federico Cossufederico.co...@gmail.com  wrote:

1) yes we do
2) no management vdc, but yes we do that as well.

bye


2011/3/12 chris standcstand...@gmail.com:

Hello,

   Is anyone here using Nexus 7Ks in their corporate networks ?
Other than the management vDC are you breaking up your networks into
multiple vDCs ?


thank you.

Chris
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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus OTV Question

2011-03-01 Thread quinn snyder
there are a couple of nasty bugs in 5.1(2) with regards to peer-gateway. 
 peer-gateway will blackhole traffic for ipv4 and v6 if enabled in your 
domain.  not sure of your storage scenario -- but it sounds like your 
slowly building out and may need this command in your toolbox for a 
later day.


CSCtl10832 and CSCtl11424 are what you're looking for[0]

this has kept us off the upgrade path for this code and we're keeping 
our fingers crossed for 5.1(3).


[0]http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/sw/5_x/nx-os/release/notes/51_nx-os_release_note.html#wp263416

q.

On 03/01/2011 11:00 PM, Martin Clifton wrote:

This problem occurred with the 7K NX-OS 5.1.1a. Upgrading to 5.1.2
resolved the problem.

Regards, Martin

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On 28/02/11 10:16 AM, Martin Cliftonmartin.clif...@vu.edu.au  wrote:


Hello all,

We have a pair of Nexus 7Ks at each of our two datacentres, separated by
about 10K.   There is a 40G L3 connection between the cores at each site
and we run OTV over this core to provide L2 connectivity betweens the
DCs.  As well as setting up new vlans on the Nexus kit (5Ks and 2Ks) we
are also using the OTV connection to transport vlans from our legacy
datacentre which is based on Cat6509s and 3750s.

I have a concern about the table that is displayed when you enter the
command sh otv route.   This table shows entries for site (ie local)
and overlay (ie other DC)  mac addresses.The issue is with the
Uptime data.  For the overlay addresses this will randomly reset to
zero and all addresses will reset to zero at the one time.   The
frequency of this reset seems to be a function of the number of vlans ie
the more vlans I add to the overlay, the more often the value resets.
With 100 or more vlans the value may build up to a minute or two but will
often only get to a few seconds before resetting.

This doesn't appear to impact the functionality of OTV.   But does it
indicate I have a problem ?   What is it that causes the reset and why
are all the (overlay) mac addresses reset at the same time ?The
symptoms occur whether or not otv suppress-arp-nd is enabled or not.

Regards, Martin

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Re: [c-nsp] Cisco switches and unique MAC on SVI/L3 port

2010-11-21 Thread quinn snyder
i cannot speak to anything else on your list -- but a fresh c4507r-e with 
sup6e is sitting in my lab right now.


code
lab4507re(config)#int vlan 250
lab4507re(config-if)#mac-add
lab4507re(config-if)#mac-add
^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

lab4507re(config-if)#mac?
macro

lab4507re(config-if)#do sh ver
Cisco IOS Software, Catalyst 4500 L3 Switch Software 
(cat4500e-ENTSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.2(54)SG, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)

Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2010 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Sun 27-Jun-10 09:28 by prod_rel_team
Image text-base: 0x1000, data-base: 0x12E09514

ROM: 12.2(44r)SG5
Darkside Revision 4, Jawa Revision 18, Tatooine Revision 141, Forerunner 
Revision 1.78


lab4507re uptime is 2 days, 2 hours, 24 minutes
Uptime for this control processor is 2 days, 2 hours, 24 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System image file is bootflash:cat4500e-entservicesk9-mz.122-54.SG.bin
/code

looks like i don't have that ability.

q.

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On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, Robert Hass wrote:


On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:

Can you be more specific? Which are you interested in - SVIs or routed
ports? They behave differently.


My question was regarding ability to change MAC on SVI, eg.:

int vlan1666
mac-address babe.0001.0002

Sup720 can do this. On small Cat3560 I cannot.
But what about latest Supervisors for Cat4500 (5,6E,7), Cat4900M,
Cat4948E and new smaller ones (3560-X, ME3400E, ME3600X,ME3800X) ?

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Re: [c-nsp] Books for Nexus Arch

2010-10-13 Thread quinn snyder
having used this book -- its of some value.  its a great tool for 
configuration of the device -- quite lacking on architecture and the 
little one offs of the device.  if you need to get the device configured, 
its a good reference.


q.

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Nikhil said:

Take a look:
NX-OS Book:
http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587058928


do you mention this book because it has Nexus in the title, or because you 
read it and found it valuable?

/chris

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Re: [c-nsp] Nexus evolution

2010-09-27 Thread Quinn Snyder
we are deploying them in ~50 sites (mix of 7010, 7018). smattering of
5k/2248 when needed. using them in a collapsed core (agg, core vdc
model) to replace existing 650x/sup720 cores.
running light services (eigrp, qos, multicast) but using vpc to
provide full redundancy between 45xx/65xx closets.
seemed like a decent choice based on lifecycle and the release of 5.0
for the 7k.  does what we need it to do and redundancy is there.
still feels rough, but nowhere like it used to be.

q.

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On Sep 27, 2010, at 9:32, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote:

 About a year ago there were some large-ish threads on the Nexus and a
 couple people that had them in production had commented that there were
 bugs that made them feel like test subjects, plus a various assortment
 of unexpected limitations. How much has this changed over the last year?

 I do notice that the 2248TP fabric extender supports direct to 7k, and
 the 22xxTP datasheet lists 100/1000 as supported speeds. I've been
 researching a 7k as a candidate for a small colo datacenter, and to me
 it seems like it's matured quite a bit (on paper, anyway).

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Re: [c-nsp] linux vpn client

2010-08-10 Thread Quinn Snyder
network-manager-vpnc
in the ubuntu repos.
little buggy. in my experience, no one client works for all profiles
or vpn endpoints. shrewsoft, kvpnc, and nm-vpnc all are used on my
system.

ynmv.

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On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:57, Jan Gregor jan.gre...@chronix.org wrote:

 Hi,

 there exists network-manager plugin for vpnc. Never used it though.

 Best regards,

 Jan

 On 08/10/2010 02:54 PM, Deric Kwok wrote:
 yes. it works, thank you

 but I have to type every time. How can I save configure?

 ls it possible I can use the GUI to connect?

 Thank you

 On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Gabriel jarod...@gmail.com wrote:
 vpnc

 On Aug 9, 2010 9:07 PM, Deric Kwok deric.kwok2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all

 Can you suggest the linux vpn client?

 eg: fedora, suse

 I also try the anyconnect. but don't know how to put the configure file

 When I use it in xwindow, it asks me to provide  connect to  vpn gui

 But I type the ip address, it won't work

 Thank you
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Re: [c-nsp] QoS and the Catalyst 4506e

2010-06-07 Thread quinn snyder
what version of supervisor are you running in the chassis?  if you are
running a sup6, is it a sup6 or a sup6e?  the latter has bitten us
several times in the past.

q.

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Steven Pfister spfis...@dps.k12.oh.us wrote:
 I'm trying to set up a new switch, a 4506e, for a remote site. Most of our 
 newer remote sites are using a 4506 and this is the first time I'm working 
 with a 4506e. Our standard configuration, which was in use before I started 
 here, has QoS settings. I'm not that familiar with QoS, but I've read some 
 about it and I have some idea as to what most of it does. Most of the QoS 
 commands in our standard config aren't working in the 4506e. Does the 4506e 
 have QoS? Is there some guide as to setting it up? Below are excerpts from 
 the config we're using that are QoS related:

 --

 qos dbl
 qos map dscp 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 to tx-queue 2
 qos map cos 3 to dscp 26
 qos map cos 5 to dscp 46
   qos aggregate-policer XYZ_AGG 64 mbps 8 mbyte conform-action transmit 
 exceed-action drop
 qos
 !
 class-map match-all match_XYZ
  match access-group 142
 !
 policy-map police_XYZ
  class match_XYZ
  police aggregate XYZ_AGG
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet4/1
  description server
  qos dscp 48
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet4/30
  description server
  service-policy input police_XYZ
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet4/48
  description upstream connection
  qos trust dscp
  tx-queue 1
   shape 98 mbps
  tx-queue 2
   shape 1 mbps
  tx-queue 3
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Re: [c-nsp] Good way of finding unauthorized network elements/

2009-10-30 Thread quinn snyder
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On Friday, October 30, 2009, Marcelo Zilio ziliomarc...@gmail.com wrote:

 A third option (if your switches support it) is enable port security and
 maximum mac address numbers on each switchport.


depending on if the device is being used as layer3 and how his
topology is set up, a single mac address will only be presented to the
switchport, since the linksys is nat'ing packets.

if it is in the budget, the cisco wlc's will handle this task nicely,
however, i am unsure of the technical licensing on upgrading from
autonomous ap's to lwaps.

q.

 On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Scott Granados gsgrana...@comcast.netwrote:

 Hi all
 I have a general question.  I have a network consisting of about 20 access
 switches and 2 core switches.  We have 3 access points that we manage but
 think someone might have brought in a linksys or DLink consumer device and
 plugged in.  (users, can't live with em, can't shoot em)
 Is there a tool or good method that could scan the arp table and look for
 Manufacturor ID bits so I could see roughly what's attached where?  Are
 there better tools in general or better methods of finding rogue elements
 that people may attach?
 Any pointers would be appreciated.

 Thanks
 Scott

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