Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[James Wildheit]

meant to say in my post entitled instructions for windows 7 to install 
clojure - leiningen - eclipse - counterclockwise:

if Ctrl (not Cmd) Enter does not work in windows 7 try:
Ctrl Alt S

when done don't forget to restart after re-enabling your firewall and UAC

(otherwise UAC will remain off and your hair will catch fire)

also, i suppose java knows very well what to do with the windows default 
folder name Program Files (x86) which requires spaces in its pathway: 
C:\Program Files (x86)
and expect changing it will also spontaneously combust your hair.

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> Apparently installing a development environment for Clojure on Windows 7 
> is very difficult. What is the best way, that has a chance that it might 
> work?
>

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Marcus Lindner]

I use eclipse with the counterclockwise plugin. Till now I had no problems
with Vista,7 & 8.
Am 24.01.2013 18:57 schrieb :

> Apparently installing a development environment for Clojure on Windows 7
> is very difficult. What is the best way, that has a chance that it might
> work?
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[James Wildheit]

On Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:56:59 PM UTC-5, sampso...@googlemail.com 
wrote:
>
> Apparently installing a development environment for Clojure on Windows 7 
> is very difficult. What is the best way, that has a chance that it might 
> work?
>

INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINDOWS 7 TO INSTALL CLOJURE - LEININGEN - ECLIPSE - 
COUNTERCLOCKWISE

30 January 2013

I am a newbie. Maybe my ignorant perspective will be helpful to others on 
Windows 7. Maybe someone more astute than I will incorporate some of the 
following into something more canonic. Some of this is from other sources, 
but ultimately appeared to get me a Hello World on Console window. Note 
that, before the following, many other attempts were made and, though I 
tried to remove everything, not sure I did. It is possible that leftover 
resources from a previous attempt when added to the steps below resulted in 
final success. Don't give up.

Nothing crashed for me, but no kidding, back up files on your computer to 
an external hard drive.

Also suggest you create a restore point, so if things don't work you may be 
able to restore your system to its previous state (automatically 
uninstalling software). Click:

Windows Start Menu Icon (lower right of screen)
Control Panel
System
System Protection
Create

Give the Restore Point a name. Wait for the Restore Point to be created.
Click Close
Click OK. If things fail and you want to start fresh, you can return to 
System Protection to attempt to restore the system to its previous state.

In order to successfully install ANYTHING in the Program Files folder (64 
bit) of Windows 7. If you are installing 32 bit then Program Files (x86). 
These are the folders, respectively that such programs seem to want to be 
in) I:

TURN OFF USER ACCOUNT CONTROL
  
Open User Account Control Settings by clicking the Start button Picture 
of the Start button, and then clicking Control Panel. In the search box, 
type uac, and then click Change User Account Control settings.

Do one of the following:

To turn off UAC, move the slider to the Never notify position, and 
then click OK. Administrator permission required If you're prompted for an 
administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide 
confirmation. You will need to restart your computer for UAC to be turned 
off.

DISABLE YOUR FIREWALL.

  LATER, AFTER EVERYTHING IS INSTALLED, TURN USER ACCOUNT CONTROL AND 
YOUR FIREWALL BACK ON.

I INSTALLED 64 BIT JAVA 7 (NOT the EE version. And on a computer capable of 
running 64 bit). Don't remember where I got it from but try here:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html

INSTALLED IT TO THE PROGRAM FILES FOLDER ON MY HARD DRIVE.

I INSTALLED 64 BIT ECLIPSE.

FROM
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
To the Right of Eclipse IDE for Java Developers, 150 MB (I did not select 
the Eclipse Java EE version) I clicked to download 64 Bit.

I DOWNLOADED IT TO THE PROGRAM FOLDER ON MY HARD DRIVE.
It reportedly includes Git.
Unzipped and installed it right there in the Program Folder.

The first time Eclipse is run, it will ask you for a location on your disk 
where Eclipse will put its metadata and create new projects by default.

I placed that in my local UserName Folder within the User Folder.

Installed Counterclockwise also known as CCW (a Clojure plugin for Eclipse) 

In the Help Menu select Install new software…
Paste the following Counterclockwise url in the “Work with:” textbox: 
http://ccw.cgrand.net/updatesite/ , Hit Enter [[[---Name repository; Click 
next; Click next; Accept]
Select counterclockwise, verify the “Contact all update sites during …” 
chekbox is checked, click next, accept licence, etc., restart Eclipse

I floundered around and found Java Perspective (not Java Browser), but 
you may try, as another instructed:
"Go to menu Window > Reset Perspective ... this will reset the way the 
views are layout, and also place correctly the views contributed by 
Counterclockwise (the Namespace Browser view, placed "behind" the code 
outline view)"


Now you would think it would be enough to just set pathway to a single 
folder and let the system find things in subfolders. That might be slow. 
Not sure if it would work.

I set many Pathways. Not sure what is really necessary but things seem to 
work.

Good way to copy a pathway is to navigate to inside the folder in Windows 
Explorer. Click just to the right of the pathway in the title bar to 
highlight the entire path and press Ctrl C to copy.

Navigate to the inside of the .eclipse folder, and copy the name of the 
pathway to the .eclipse folder 
C:\Users\MyComputerUserName\.eclipse

Paste it into a text editor and add a backslash to make it look like
C:\Users\MyComputerUserName\.eclipse\
(read somewhere the backslash was necessary)

While you're at it, you may add other pathways. Navigate to inside the 
.lein folder and add that in your text editor.
Separate the 2 pathways wi

Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[George Oliver]

> On Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:56:59 PM UTC-5, 
> sampso...@googlemail.comwrote:
>>
>> Apparently installing a development environment for Clojure on Windows 7 
>> is very difficult. What is the best way, that has a chance that it might 
>> work?
>>
>

I just wanted to repeat the link that Phil Hagelberg posted earlier, as it 
seems like it got lost a little in the thread:

http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/emacs.html 

This is an excellent current tutorial. I just installed a complete Windows 
setup and it took 5 minutes to go from zero to nrepl-jack-in. 

I have a related question, do I need a contributor agreement filed to make 
changes to http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+with+Emacs ? 
I have an account there but can't find the edit option for that page. 

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Ravi Sundaar]

I have been able to install clojure (1.4.0), lieningen, emacs (24.2) fine 
on windows 7. Clojure and Lien work fine. It took me a while to figure out 
the problem with emacs. After fighting through battles of setup, I realized 
I have to start emacs as the administrator in windows. This might solve 
some problems for some of you. It seems to work that way - at least, I get 
the prompt when I run "nrepl-jack-in" 

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> work?
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Mark Engelberg]

As Laurent pointed out, Eclipse Counterclockwise is pretty close to being a
the kind of full-stack snapshot you're looking for, and it works great and
installs easily on Windows.  You simply download Eclipse (a zip file which
doesn't really need to be "installed"), run it, and install
counterclockwise from the plugin install system.  Nothing else needs to be
installed - Clojure, leiningen, etc. are all handled for you.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:38 AM,  wrote:

> I'm glad some people find it easy to install Clojure on Windows. But
> knowing that
> doesn't really help those who don't. Not that there is any obligation on
> anyone to help - we
> can just eff off and do other things. Regarding a 'snapshot' build,
> obviously no-one
> is obliged to provide that or anything else. My point was that it might be
> a good thing
> if a working development stack, IDE and all, were available from a single
> site under the
> management of a single organisation.
>

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[sampson . john7]

I haven't heard of brew.

I'm glad some people find it easy to install Clojure on Windows. But 
knowing that
doesn't really help those who don't. Not that there is any obligation on 
anyone to help - we
can just eff off and do other things. Regarding a 'snapshot' build, 
obviously no-one
is obliged to provide that or anything else. My point was that it might be 
a good thing
if a working development stack, IDE and all, were available from a single 
site under the
management of a single organisation.

There isn't, and that is perfectly fair. I am just not likely to be using 
Clojure after all - I
don't want to waste more of my time or anyone else's. I apologise for the 
time already
wasted.

I don't know what you mean by a previous development stack - I have never 
had
Clojure working.

On Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:36:56 PM UTC, Sean Corfield wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 3:24 AM,  > 
> wrote: 
> > If that is so should the developers not be frank up front and say 
> > that Clojure is not meant to be used on Windows? 
>
> Clojure works just fine on Windows. As I said, I've set up Clojure 
> development environments on a number of Windows machines now and it 
> really isn't that difficult. 
>
> > It won't do Clojure's 
> > image any good if Windows users are spending hours vainly struggling 
> > to install stuff, following misleading advice. 
>
> It's hard to know what to do about all the misleading advice out there 
> - it's not like Clojure/core or Clojure/dev can magically wave some 
> wand and make all the bad blog posts go away :( 
>
> It's like all the people who post about "brew install clojure" - just 
> install the Leiningen shell script and you're done. Again, not much 
> can be done about people using brew to 'install' Clojure :( 
>
> > More positively, perhaps there 
> > could be a 'snapshot' build of everything required, tested on Windows 7 
> and 
> > downloadable from official sites. 
>
> I'm not quite sure what you're looking for here...? 
> * The official Leiningen site has the .bat file that works on Windows. 
> * The official Emacs (GNU) site has the .exe that works on Windows. 
> * The official LightTable site has the .zip file that works on Windows. 
> And the same goes for Eclipse and CCW - again on separate sites - or 
> IntelliJ and La Clojure or... 
>
> Clojure itself is just one small component in a "Clojure development 
> environment" and there are lots of choices for developers. 
> Clojure/core is only responsible for Clojure itself and the official 
> site has a JAR file that works on Windows. 
>
> I guess I would ask: what is your previous development stack and did 
> it have a snapshot build of everything required that could be download 
> from a single "official" site? 
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Mark Engelberg]

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Ryan Cole  wrote:

> I guess I don't understand what's so difficult about getting Clojure, or
> Light Table, to work on Windows (7). I literally just installed the JDK,
> put the bin directory of it on my $PATH, and with that alone, Light Table
> will work just fine. I then downloaded the Leiningen batch file and put it
> on my $PATH, as well. I only encountered one compatibility issue dealing
> with uberjars, but I opened a ticket for Leiningen and it was promptly
> fixed. I've done this with both JDK 1.6 and 1.7. As far as Light Table's
> state, it's definitely under development but I haven't encountered any
> editing tasks that it can't perform.
>
> Ryan
>

Glad it's working for you.  On every system I've tried to run it on,
opening an existing project or starting a new project causes it to hang.
The instarepl, on some versions, sort of worked for a little bit.

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Ryan Cole]

I guess I don't understand what's so difficult about getting Clojure, or 
Light Table, to work on Windows (7). I literally just installed the JDK, 
put the bin directory of it on my $PATH, and with that alone, Light Table 
will work just fine. I then downloaded the Leiningen batch file and put it 
on my $PATH, as well. I only encountered one compatibility issue dealing 
with uberjars, but I opened a ticket for Leiningen and it was promptly 
fixed. I've done this with both JDK 1.6 and 1.7. As far as Light Table's 
state, it's definitely under development but I haven't encountered any 
editing tasks that it can't perform.

Ryan

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 2:10:01 PM UTC-6, puzzler wrote:
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> I haven't had any luck getting Light Table to work on Windows 7, and it's 
> still in a very rough state.  I wouldn't recommend it at this time.
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Mark Engelberg]

I haven't had any luck getting Light Table to work on Windows 7, and it's
still in a very rough state.  I wouldn't recommend it at this time.

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Ryan Cole  wrote:

> It's actually pretty simple, if you decide to use leiningen and light
> table, the editor. All you have to do is install the JDK (decline the JRE
> option, when it asks) and then put leiningen and light table on your system
> path. You're done. Leiningen and light table will download dependencies as
> needed, including Clojure.
>
> Ryan
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[George Oliver]

On Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:01:34 PM UTC-8, Ravi Sundaar wrote:
>
> I am running into problems getting emacs (24.2) to work with clojure as 
> well on windows 7. I have installed leiningen fine. Clojure (1.4.0) itself 
> seems to be behaving. The packages seem to install fine in emacs - no 
> problems. When I invoke "nrepl-jack-in" from emacs, I get an "Access 
> Denied" error. No idea what that could be. There does not seem to be any 
> discussions on this on the web. 
>
> Any thoughts? Should I abandon the emacs approach on windows and choose a 
> different editor?
>

No, Emacs works perfectly well on Windows. What packages did you install 
and how did you install them? 

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Sean Corfield]

I highly recommend GOW - Gnu On Windows - as a lightweight alternative
to Cygwin:

https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/wiki

It provides wget / curl which makes Leiningen happy - along with about
a hundred common *nix commands, without the overhead of Cygwin.

Sean

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Eric MacAdie  wrote:
> OT: It looks like Gnuwin32 has not been updated in a while.
>
> When I use a Windows machine, I always install cygwin: http://cygwin.com/
>
> You can install emacs from that.
>
> I feel like attaching a pic with the Dos Equis Most Interesting Man meme:
> I don't always use Windows. But when I do, I install Cygwin.
>
> - Eric MacAdie
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Gregory Graham  wrote:
>>
>> I'm a Clojure newbie, and during Christmas break I decided to learn
>> Clojure, and installed it on my Mac, using Emacs, Nrepl, and Leiningen 2.
>> When I got back to work, I put the same setup on my Windows 7 machine, and
>> the only issue was the lack of wget. So, I installed Gnuwin32, and
>> everything works fine. I was already using git for version control, so that
>> wasn't a problem.
>>
>> I will say that I had used Emacs several times in my career when working
>> in a Unix environment, but did not like it on Windows. However, when I tried
>> Emacs 24 on Windows a couple of weeks ago, I was pleasantly surprised, and
>> it has now become my main editor at home and at work.
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Eric MacAdie]

OT: It looks like Gnuwin32 has not been updated in a while.

When I use a Windows machine, I always install cygwin: http://cygwin.com/

You can install emacs from that.

I feel like attaching a pic with the Dos Equis Most Interesting Man meme:
I don't always use Windows. But when I do, I install Cygwin.

- Eric MacAdie



On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Gregory Graham  wrote:

> I'm a Clojure newbie, and during Christmas break I decided to learn
> Clojure, and installed it on my Mac, using Emacs, Nrepl, and Leiningen 2.
> When I got back to work, I put the same setup on my Windows 7 machine, and
> the only issue was the lack of wget. So, I installed 
> Gnuwin32,
> and everything works fine. I was already using git for version control, so
> that wasn't a problem.
>
> I will say that I had used Emacs several times in my career when working
> in a Unix environment, but did not like it on Windows. However, when I
> tried Emacs 24 on Windows a couple of weeks ago, I was pleasantly
> surprised, and it has now become my main editor at home and at work.
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Ravi Sundaar]

I am running into problems getting emacs (24.2) to work with clojure as 
well on windows 7. I have installed leiningen fine. Clojure (1.4.0) itself 
seems to be behaving. The packages seem to install fine in emacs - no 
problems. When I invoke "nrepl-jack-in" from emacs, I get an "Access 
Denied" error. No idea what that could be. There does not seem to be any 
discussions on this on the web. 

Any thoughts? Should I abandon the emacs approach on windows and choose a 
different editor?

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> Apparently installing a development environment for Clojure on Windows 7 
> is very difficult. What is the best way, that has a chance that it might 
> work?
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Gregory Graham]

I'm a Clojure newbie, and during Christmas break I decided to learn 
Clojure, and installed it on my Mac, using Emacs, Nrepl, and Leiningen 2. 
When I got back to work, I put the same setup on my Windows 7 machine, and 
the only issue was the lack of wget. So, I installed 
Gnuwin32, 
and everything works fine. I was already using git for version control, so 
that wasn't a problem.

I will say that I had used Emacs several times in my career when working in 
a Unix environment, but did not like it on Windows. However, when I tried 
Emacs 24 on Windows a couple of weeks ago, I was pleasantly surprised, and 
it has now become my main editor at home and at work.

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Sean Corfield]

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 3:24 AM,   wrote:
> If that is so should the developers not be frank up front and say
> that Clojure is not meant to be used on Windows?

Clojure works just fine on Windows. As I said, I've set up Clojure
development environments on a number of Windows machines now and it
really isn't that difficult.

> It won't do Clojure's
> image any good if Windows users are spending hours vainly struggling
> to install stuff, following misleading advice.

It's hard to know what to do about all the misleading advice out there
- it's not like Clojure/core or Clojure/dev can magically wave some
wand and make all the bad blog posts go away :(

It's like all the people who post about "brew install clojure" - just
install the Leiningen shell script and you're done. Again, not much
can be done about people using brew to 'install' Clojure :(

> More positively, perhaps there
> could be a 'snapshot' build of everything required, tested on Windows 7 and
> downloadable from official sites.

I'm not quite sure what you're looking for here...?
* The official Leiningen site has the .bat file that works on Windows.
* The official Emacs (GNU) site has the .exe that works on Windows.
* The official LightTable site has the .zip file that works on Windows.
And the same goes for Eclipse and CCW - again on separate sites - or
IntelliJ and La Clojure or...

Clojure itself is just one small component in a "Clojure development
environment" and there are lots of choices for developers.
Clojure/core is only responsible for Clojure itself and the official
site has a JAR file that works on Windows.

I guess I would ask: what is your previous development stack and did
it have a snapshot build of everything required that could be download
from a single "official" site?
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Ryan Cole]

It's actually pretty simple, if you decide to use leiningen and light 
table, the editor. All you have to do is install the JDK (decline the JRE 
option, when it asks) and then put leiningen and light table on your system 
path. You're done. Leiningen and light table will download dependencies as 
needed, including Clojure.

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Laurent PETIT]

On Jan 26, 2013 12:29 PM, "AtKaaZ"  wrote:
>
> so, wait, are you having any trouble with eclipse+counterclockwise ? it
seems to be pretty straight forward, considering that I actually failed to
use emacs myself (although I did get emacs-live working, i prefer
eclipse+ccw for now)
>

I confirm that windows compatibility is in the goals of CounterClockWise
and will be addressed as seriously as any other issue that might be raised
on the project.

I doubt you'll have windows specific problems with the current stable
version.

>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:19:38 PM UTC, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> sampso...@googlemail.com writes:
>>>
>>> > I have tried clojure-mode, creating .emacs.d in Emacs-24.2 - it
complained
>>> > that there is no emacs_24.2/.emacs.d (note the underscore) and
proceeded to
>>> > create one. However, the material I pasted from blogs had fatal
errors in
>>> > it.
>>>
>>> Most of what you read on blogs is either wrong from the beginning or
>>> wrong by the time you actually read it; the official documentation
>>> should always be your starting point. However, in this case
>>> clojure-doc.org has an overview that is wider in scope than the
>>> documentation for any individual package:
>>>
>>> http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/emacs.html
>>>
>>> However, very few contributors are familiar with Windows. If you find
>>> the fix for the problem you encountered, please consider improving the
>>> documentation.
>>>
>>> -Phil
>>
>>
>> If that is so should the developers not be frank up front and say
>> that Clojure is not meant to be used on Windows? It won't do Clojure's
>> image any good if Windows users are spending hours vainly struggling
>> to install stuff, following misleading advice. More positively, perhaps
there
>> could be a 'snapshot' build of everything required, tested on Windows 7
and
>> downloadable from official sites.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Phil Hagelberg]

sampson.jo...@googlemail.com writes:

> More positively, perhaps there could be a 'snapshot' build of
> everything required, tested on Windows 7 and downloadable from
> official sites.

I'm confused; are you having trouble setting up Clojure or Emacs? Emacs
is not affiliated with Clojure in any way. In fact, the GNU project is
pretty up-front about the fact that Windows support is not considered a
priority.

> If that is so should the developers not be frank up front and say
> that Clojure is not meant to be used on Windows? 

I don't think I've ever made the claim that any of the software I
maintain is supported on Windows in an official fashion, but maybe that
could be made clearer. The Windows compatibility all comes from
community contributions where people have found problems and submitted
patches to fix them.

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[AtKaaZ]

so, wait, are you having any trouble with eclipse+counterclockwise ? it
seems to be pretty straight forward, considering that I actually failed to
use emacs myself (although I did get emacs-live working, i prefer
eclipse+ccw for now)


On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:24 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:19:38 PM UTC, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
>
>>
>> sampso...@googlemail.com writes:
>>
>> > I have tried clojure-mode, creating .emacs.d in Emacs-24.2 - it
>> complained
>> > that there is no emacs_24.2/.emacs.d (note the underscore) and
>> proceeded to
>> > create one. However, the material I pasted from blogs had fatal errors
>> in
>> > it.
>>
>> Most of what you read on blogs is either wrong from the beginning or
>> wrong by the time you actually read it; the official documentation
>> should always be your starting point. However, in this case
>> clojure-doc.org has an overview that is wider in scope than the
>> documentation for any individual package:
>>
>> 
>> http://clojure-doc.org/**articles/tutorials/emacs.html
>>
>> However, very few contributors are familiar with Windows. If you find
>> the fix for the problem you encountered, please consider improving the
>> documentation.
>>
>> -Phil
>>
>
> If that is so should the developers not be frank up front and say
> that Clojure is not meant to be used on Windows? It won't do Clojure's
> image any good if Windows users are spending hours vainly struggling
> to install stuff, following misleading advice. More positively, perhaps
> there
> could be a 'snapshot' build of everything required, tested on Windows 7 and
> downloadable from official sites.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[sampson . john7]

On Friday, January 25, 2013 6:19:38 PM UTC, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
>
>
> sampso...@googlemail.com  writes: 
>
> > I have tried clojure-mode, creating .emacs.d in Emacs-24.2 - it 
> complained 
> > that there is no emacs_24.2/.emacs.d (note the underscore) and proceeded 
> to 
> > create one. However, the material I pasted from blogs had fatal errors 
> in 
> > it. 
>
> Most of what you read on blogs is either wrong from the beginning or 
> wrong by the time you actually read it; the official documentation 
> should always be your starting point. However, in this case 
> clojure-doc.org has an overview that is wider in scope than the 
> documentation for any individual package: 
>
> http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/emacs.html 
>
> However, very few contributors are familiar with Windows. If you find 
> the fix for the problem you encountered, please consider improving the 
> documentation. 
>
> -Phil 
>

If that is so should the developers not be frank up front and say
that Clojure is not meant to be used on Windows? It won't do Clojure's
image any good if Windows users are spending hours vainly struggling 
to install stuff, following misleading advice. More positively, perhaps 
there
could be a 'snapshot' build of everything required, tested on Windows 7 and
downloadable from official sites.

Regards

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Phil Hagelberg]

sampson.jo...@googlemail.com writes:

> I have tried clojure-mode, creating .emacs.d in Emacs-24.2 - it complained 
> that there is no emacs_24.2/.emacs.d (note the underscore) and proceeded to 
> create one. However, the material I pasted from blogs had fatal errors in 
> it.

Most of what you read on blogs is either wrong from the beginning or
wrong by the time you actually read it; the official documentation
should always be your starting point. However, in this case
clojure-doc.org has an overview that is wider in scope than the
documentation for any individual package:

http://clojure-doc.org/articles/tutorials/emacs.html

However, very few contributors are familiar with Windows. If you find
the fix for the problem you encountered, please consider improving the
documentation.

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[keeds]

As people already have said Emacs + Leiningen is readily setup on Windows 
7. emacs-live makes clojure coding a breeze with emacs 24.
It's all the other frustrations that make it a pain. Command Line, git, 
grep etc

My solution: Ubuntu 12.04 on VirtualBox VM with Emacs 24. Quick, easy and 
s much more pleasant the Windows for clojure dev.

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> Apparently installing a development environment for Clojure on Windows 7 
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> work?
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

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On Friday, 25 January 2013 01:56:59 UTC+8, sampso...@googlemail.com wrote:

> Apparently installing a development environment for Clojure on Windows 7 
> is very difficult. What is the best way, that has a chance that it might 
> work?
>

A fresh install of Eclipse with the Counterclockwise plugin always works 
perfectly for me. It's a very good choice if you are familiar with Eclipse 
for Java coding.
- http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
- http://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/

There are plenty of other options, but they will generally leave you having 
to work out some command line config and installs. 

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Brent Millare]

I regularly develop clojure on emacs on windows.

I wrote up a guide for myself, you can read it and adapt it to your needs.

https://github.com/bmillare/dj/wiki/Emacs-Setup

https://github.com/bmillare/dj/wiki/Installation-Walkthrough

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[sampson . john7]

I wonder how many people do not have the hours to spare to wrestle with 
dependency columns.
Any alteration to any component - reorganisation, new version etc. causes 
the whole thing to collapse. Any advice on the Web goes out of date. It 
would be better if Clojure had a complete official programming environment 
under the control of one organisation.

I have tried clojure-mode, creating .emacs.d in Emacs-24.2 - it complained 
that there is no emacs_24.2/.emacs.d (note the underscore) and proceeded to 
create one. However, the material I pasted from blogs had fatal errors in 
it.


On Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:43:38 PM UTC, David Powell wrote:
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>
> I don't think there should are any problems with Clojure on Windows 7.
>
> "lein trampoline cljsbuild repl-rhino" didn't work for me on old versions 
> of leiningen, but on the release version of lein 2 it works perfectly.
>
> I use a mix of IntelliJ+LaClojure & Emacs+clojure-mode and they also work 
> perfectly.
>
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[David Powell]

I don't think there should are any problems with Clojure on Windows 7.

"lein trampoline cljsbuild repl-rhino" didn't work for me on old versions
of leiningen, but on the release version of lein 2 it works perfectly.

I use a mix of IntelliJ+LaClojure & Emacs+clojure-mode and they also work
perfectly.

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Sean Corfield]

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:05 AM, George Oliver
 wrote:
> Sean, have you been using lein trampoline successfully on Windows? The last
> time I tried there was a persistent bug that hadn't been tracked down.

I have not needed lein trampoline - I gather the bug is to do with the
temp file it writes?
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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[George Oliver]

On Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:22:41 AM UTC-8, Sean Corfield wrote:
>
> Having now setup an Emacs-bsaed dev environment on XP and multiple 
> Windows 8 machines, I no longer think it's as difficult as some people 
> make it out to be. 
>


Sean, have you been using lein trampoline successfully on Windows? The last 
time I tried there was a persistent bug that hadn't been tracked down.  

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Sean Corfield]

Having now setup an Emacs-bsaed dev environment on XP and multiple
Windows 8 machines, I no longer think it's as difficult as some people
make it out to be. Leiningen 2 has a reasonably well-maintained
Windows batch file so that problem is solved. The initial install is:
* lein.bat (a single download plus adding to your path)
* either:
  * install wget or curl and run lein self-install
  * download the JAR manually and move it to the correct .lein folder

For an overall improved experience on Windows, I've taken to
installing GOW - Gnu on Windows -
https://github.com/bmatzelle/gow/wiki - which provides curl and wget
and a bunch of other useful stuff, thus making lein self-install the
easier option.

For an IDE / editor, you have several choices: Emacs 24.x is as easy
to install and setup on Windows IMO as on Mac or Linux now; as Laurent
says, you have Eclipse + CCW; you also have LightTable.

I don't imagine Windows 7 to be any more difficult than XP or Windows 8.

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:56 PM,  wrote:

> Apparently installing a development environment for Clojure on Windows 7
> is very difficult. What is the best way, that has a chance that it might
> work?
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> I'm curious if you have any more specific reasons for this statement?

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Re: Installing Clojure on Windows 7

[Laurent PETIT]

2013/1/24  :
> Apparently installing a development environment for Clojure on Windows 7 is
> very difficult. What is the best way, that has a chance that it might work?

Installing Counterclockwise for Eclipse should be as easy as it can be
: 
http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started+with+Eclipse+and+Counterclockwise

Windows is not a second-class citizen for Counterclockwise, there are
lots of Windows users of it.

Note also that for basic Leiningen integration (automatic handling of
your project's classpath dependencies), you won't have to install
anything beyond Counterclockwise, it ships embedded with Leiningen.

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