Re: Stus-List boat on the rocks (was Lake Superior storm)
I wrote: Listening on the radio, there's a boat on the beach already. It's not that bad, so they must have had a foul up with ground tackle. Don't know any more. Three soaking wet hours later... all I can say is 'Oh, it was *that* boat.' I've checked it out every time I'm in this anchorage, and have wondered for years when this was going to happen. It was a 36 foot trawler, with light ground tackle, that hasn't moved in six years. At least it wasn't a sailboat. You know the type. Skinny crazy guy with a beard, and a recently acquired skinny crazy woman on board, and a boat that looks bad from 100 meters away. Guys like that give Crazy Gringos like me a bad name. Heck, the Mexican Navy showed up to help, and a half dozen folks got out of bed to help tow it off the rocks. The captain seemed to think he was a victim of an Act of Cod (sic) and he deserved all the assistance. Wal -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Able bodied crew available in Toronto Area
Hi Y'all, I've been talking about my sailing adventures to my young co-worker friend from Toronto and he's interested in crewing. On our lake the clubs have "associate membership" to allow folks without boats to be members. This way they are able to access the "crew wanted" side of the club website and crew on different boats. Do you guys have similar options on Lake Ontario? My friend is interested in sailing but is just getting started in life and does not have the spare coin for a boat. He's a really nice guy, has no sailing experience, but is very bright and pretty athletic Please let me know if you need crew or can recommend clubs for him to get started. Regards, -Francois 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, Georgia Sent from IBM Notes Traveler ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Lake Superior storm
Yikes. Is there a term for that? Square waves are when the height equals the period, but that's twice as bad. I was just sitting here worrying about Odile. The forecast track *was* to go straight up the Sea of Cortez, but it now looks like it'll hit Cabo and La Paz dead on. The outer edges are just hitting here and it's three days away. Listening on the radio, there's a boat on the beach already. It's not that bad, so they must have had a foul up with ground tackle. Don't know any more. Wal Fred wrote: There’s currently a nasty low passing over Lake Superior; buoy data from two hours ago lists wave height at 14.8 feet with an average period of 7.1 seconds. I keep saying Lake Superior is more like the ocean than a lake; I guess this should help prove that. I’m just glad I’m not out in it... The “Gales of November” are early this year. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 29
Ron, I am using a Fusion MS-IP600 stereo unit mounted in the cabin. What you see in the cockpit in the YouTube video is a Fusion MS-WR600 wired remote. I can control all the functions of the cabin mounted unit from the cockpit remote. (Not just the volume) I installed the remote in an existing access port so I didn't have to drill additional holes in the cockpit. The access port was factory installed to access the shore power plug and other hidden stuff. I used two sound exciters per channel. (4 total) The foam adhesive rings that hold the exciter in place has a very aggressive adhesive. I did however sand the backside of the cockpit seat backs to create a very smooth surface. Final grit was 400. The exciter sticks much better to smooth surfaces. There is some information about the specific sound exciters that I installed located in the description on YouTube. When the cncphotoalbum.com site had the FORUM functioning, I had posted some still photos of the actual exciter installation with an explanation of the installation. I guess that's gone now unless Stu can set up the FORUM again. Ted Drossos C&C 29-2 H2OT Long Island, NY ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Lake Superior storm
I was going to say - period of 7.1 seconds is not open ocean and yes, very very mean John Sent from my iPad > On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:18 PM, dwight via CnC-List > wrote: > > That would be a mean ocean…and a very mean lake…good weather to stay at home > and enjoy the gardens > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35MKII, Alianna > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick > G Street via CnC-List > Sent: September 10, 2014 6:09 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Lake Superior storm > > There’s currently a nasty low passing over Lake Superior; buoy data from two > hours ago lists wave height at 14.8 feet with an average period of 7.1 > seconds. > > I keep saying Lake Superior is more like the ocean than a lake; I guess this > should help prove that. I’m just glad I’m not out in it... > > The “Gales of November” are early this year. > > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8146 - Release Date: 09/03/14 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Lake Superior storm
That would be a mean ocean.and a very mean lake.good weather to stay at home and enjoy the gardens Dwight Veinot C&C 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: September 10, 2014 6:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Lake Superior storm There's currently a nasty low passing over Lake Superior; buoy data from two hours ago lists wave height at 14.8 feet with an average period of 7.1 seconds. I keep saying Lake Superior is more like the ocean than a lake; I guess this should help prove that. I'm just glad I'm not out in it... The "Gales of November" are early this year. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8146 - Release Date: 09/03/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Lake Superior storm
There’s currently a nasty low passing over Lake Superior; buoy data from two hours ago lists wave height at 14.8 feet with an average period of 7.1 seconds. I keep saying Lake Superior is more like the ocean than a lake; I guess this should help prove that. I’m just glad I’m not out in it... The “Gales of November” are early this year. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Companionway hood
Unless your hood is different than mine, all it does is keep rain and waves from getting in between the slider and forward part of the companionway, and protect and hide the tracks and slider. I think you want it open all along the bottom, or the water won't be able to drain properly. I think what you are asking is simply how to tighten up the screw holes? If so, what I did on mine was to ream out the holes a little with my handy Dremel tool and an eighth inch rasp. Then I inserted some SS helicoils, I think #10 NC, put a little vaseline on the screws, screwed them in the helicoils so I could remove them, and bedded them in the holes with thickened West System epoxy. Worked like a charm. Bill Coleman C&C 39 -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Crombie via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:41 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Companionway hood A couple of the screws are loose on my companionway hood, so I am planning on removing it and giving it a good cleaning (and cleaning the gunk underneath it). What type of sealant should i put into the screwholes when I put it back on? 4200? Silicon? Any advice would be appreciated. There seemed to be quite the debate a few years ago about whether to seal the entire underside or not. Mine only appears to have sealant around the screws and i don't have any leaks (at least not around the companionway!) , so I'll probably stick with that method. Thanks, Mike Atacama C&C 33 Mk II Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 30 sailboat
Any advice on mounting? Number you used? What type of "better solution" do you need for mounting? Ted's video recommends 4 "Hiwave. model number HIAX32C20-8 " But the HiWave model no longer is avail - the Tectonic Elements one you have (TEAX32C30-4) are the basically the same model number and I'm guessing Tectonics took over the Hiwave products or name change? I have the stereo - I'll have to check speaker ohm recommendations. I'm thinking I'll mount a set in the cockpit and a set underneath in the cabin - set them up as front and rear speakers on the stereo so I can flip back and forth or run both. Mark There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. - George Santayana On 10/09/2014 9:59 AM, Joe at Zialater via CnC-List wrote: Howdy all, I installed the sound exciters on my 30 MK1 after watching Ted's video. In a word, fantastic. They sound great and they are totally protected under the cockpit. No drilling or cutting needed and cheap to boot. They attach with double stick tape rings - I plan on working up a better solution for that.I installed a WM7000 Bluetooth stereo from Westmarine - remote control and lots of other good features. Here is a link to the exciters that I purchased - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0072HYSUW/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc= 1. 4 ohms to match the wm stereo. My kids come sailing with me more often now that they can stream their iphones - and I have to listen to electronic dance music - fair enough trade-off I guess. Cheers, Joe Boyle Zia 30 MK1 Annapolis Zialater.com Message: 7 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:47:10 -0400 From: Ted Drossos To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 sailboat Message-ID: <8d19ab8a6ae8ad0-2b28-a...@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, the person who posted that video of the sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 is a lister. Me. I have to say that I was very skeptical when I originally started that project but figured that it was worth a shot. Cutting 6" diameter holes in my cockpit had prevented me from adding speakers for many years. That YouTube video was taken with an iPad so the sound quality isn't a true representation of the great sound that these little sound exciters can produce. A typical speaker would also make nearby objects vibrate if they were loose and in close proximity. It's not an issue. This is a great solution to adding sound in the cockpit without having to cut holes. They stay dry and can't be accidentally damaged by a foot going through them. I've seen that happen all to often on other boats. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 30 sailboat
So Ted: Just so I'm clear on what you did.you installed 2 of these exciters behind the cockpit coaming sides...but you seem to have a volume dial located where and available from who? Thanks, Ron C. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe at Zialater via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:59 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 30 sailboat Howdy all, I installed the sound exciters on my 30 MK1 after watching Ted's video. In a word, fantastic. They sound great and they are totally protected under the cockpit. No drilling or cutting needed and cheap to boot. They attach with double stick tape rings - I plan on working up a better solution for that.I installed a WM7000 Bluetooth stereo from Westmarine - remote control and lots of other good features. Here is a link to the exciters that I purchased - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0072HYSUW/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc= 1. 4 ohms to match the wm stereo. My kids come sailing with me more often now that they can stream their iphones - and I have to listen to electronic dance music - fair enough trade-off I guess. Cheers, Joe Boyle Zia 30 MK1 Annapolis Zialater.com Message: 7 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:47:10 -0400 From: Ted Drossos To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 sailboat Message-ID: <8d19ab8a6ae8ad0-2b28-a...@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, the person who posted that video of the sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 is a lister. Me. I have to say that I was very skeptical when I originally started that project but figured that it was worth a shot. Cutting 6" diameter holes in my cockpit had prevented me from adding speakers for many years. That YouTube video was taken with an iPad so the sound quality isn't a true representation of the great sound that these little sound exciters can produce. A typical speaker would also make nearby objects vibrate if they were loose and in close proximity. It's not an issue. This is a great solution to adding sound in the cockpit without having to cut holes. They stay dry and can't be accidentally damaged by a foot going through them. I've seen that happen all to often on other boats. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Good Surveyor in Bayfield WI?
Nate — Walkie Holzer’s the only guy to use for diesel engines. I wouldn’t leave that to a general surveyor. Try him at 715-209-3550. For general survey, I’d use Phil Peterson in Bayfield; but only as a buyer, not as a seller. He finds some nitpicky stuff that can really spook a buyer, especially a first-time boat owner; but that can work to your advantage if you’re buying and already know what’s important and what’s not so much. Try him at 715-779-0254. And for god’s sake, stay off the Lake for the next day or two — here’s the forecast: LSZ146-147-101530- PORT WING TO SAND ISLAND WI-SAND ISLAND TO BAYFIELD WI- 329 AM CDT WED SEP 10 2014 GALE WARNING IN EFFECT THROUGH THIS EVENING TODAY NE GALES TO 35 KT. RAIN IN THE MORNING...THEN RAIN LIKELY EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON. A CHANCE OF RAIN LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. WAVES 9 TO 11 FT SUBSIDING TO 8 TO 10 FT LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. TONIGHT N WIND 15 TO 20 KT WITH GUSTS TO 30 KT DECREASING TO 10 TO 15 KT AFTER MIDNIGHT. MOSTLY CLOUDY. WAVES 8 TO 10 FT SUBSIDING TO 5 TO 7 FT. THURSDAY N WIND 5 TO 10 KT BECOMING NE LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. PARTLY CLOUDY. WAVES 4 TO 6 FT SUBSIDING TO 2 TO 4 FT. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List wrote: > We're looking at another boat (the admiral has fallen for the ad for a 90's > Tartan, and I'm not resisting - but at least Tartan and C&C are now one), and > I may soon need a reliable surveyor in the Bayfield area. Any suggestions? > > I'm especially interested in someone who can really evaluate (compression > check) an engine (Westerbeke) and check for deck balsa moisture as much as is > possible. > > After lots of problem solving on various systems on our 34 year old boat, I > think I've developed a suspicious eye for many other issues > > Nate > "Sarah Jean" > 1980 30-1 > Siskiwit Bay Marina > Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 30 sailboat
Howdy all, I installed the sound exciters on my 30 MK1 after watching Ted's video. In a word, fantastic. They sound great and they are totally protected under the cockpit. No drilling or cutting needed and cheap to boot. They attach with double stick tape rings - I plan on working up a better solution for that.I installed a WM7000 Bluetooth stereo from Westmarine - remote control and lots of other good features. Here is a link to the exciters that I purchased - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0072HYSUW/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc= 1. 4 ohms to match the wm stereo. My kids come sailing with me more often now that they can stream their iphones - and I have to listen to electronic dance music - fair enough trade-off I guess. Cheers, Joe Boyle Zia 30 MK1 Annapolis Zialater.com Message: 7 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 22:47:10 -0400 From: Ted Drossos To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 sailboat Message-ID: <8d19ab8a6ae8ad0-2b28-a...@webmail-va018.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, the person who posted that video of the sound exciter installation on a C&C 29 is a lister. Me. I have to say that I was very skeptical when I originally started that project but figured that it was worth a shot. Cutting 6" diameter holes in my cockpit had prevented me from adding speakers for many years. That YouTube video was taken with an iPad so the sound quality isn't a true representation of the great sound that these little sound exciters can produce. A typical speaker would also make nearby objects vibrate if they were loose and in close proximity. It's not an issue. This is a great solution to adding sound in the cockpit without having to cut holes. They stay dry and can't be accidentally damaged by a foot going through them. I've seen that happen all to often on other boats. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Good Surveyor in Bayfield WI?
We're looking at another boat (the admiral has fallen for the ad for a 90's Tartan, and I'm not resisting - but at least Tartan and C&C are now one), and I may soon need a reliable surveyor in the Bayfield area. Any suggestions? I'm especially interested in someone who can really evaluate (compression check) an engine (Westerbeke) and check for deck balsa moisture as much as is possible. After lots of problem solving on various systems on our 34 year old boat, I think I've developed a suspicious eye for many other issues Nate "Sarah Jean" 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on C&C 44
$5900 http://www.dieselenginetrader.com/search/engine_details.cfm Josh On Sep 10, 2014 8:24 AM, "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" wrote: > Jonathan > > > > How does the remanufactured engine compare in pricing to the new models? > > > > Mike > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of > *Jonathan > Boocock via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:31 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on C&C 44 > > > > Thanks for all the input. I will summarize what I have found so far about > engine replacements. > > Much to my surprise pricing for new Yanmar engines with similar hp (55 hp) > to the old engine pricing is better in Canada compared to the US. > > With "boat show" pricing I have been quoted $14,900 US (list $18320) for a > 4JH5E or 4JH57. Of course with Yanmar products they can't be shipped to > other regions so I would have to pick it up in the US and pay state tax, > followed by Canadian tax when it is brought into Canada. (total about 20% > :( ) > > Canadian pricing is approx $14900 CAN, roughly 10% less given the exchange > rate and I wouldn't incur the US state tax. > > > > As many recommend Beta as an alternative to Yanmar I started looking at > them as well. The 50 hp option is about $14,000 CAN before any options > (higher output alternator, longer wiring harness etc) and this is before > adding any of the items required to change engine mounts, exhaust etc. I > don't see the significant savings I was expecting based on others > experience.It sounds like maintainability (parts, access) are better than > Yanmar so savings aren't only $. > > > > I am likely going to put in a remanufactured Yanmar 4JH3 which I have > been told should be a drop in fully replacement with the same hp as my > turbocharged older model. It sounds like Schooner Bay have an excellent > reputation delivering fully remanufactured engines for less than half the > price of a new engine. > > > > Thanks for everyones input. I will update the list as my project proceeds. > > Jon > > > > C&C 44 > > Mor' Childs Play > > Kingston ON > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on C&C 44
Jonathan How does the remanufactured engine compare in pricing to the new models? Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Boocock via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:31 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 4JH-TE Repower on C&C 44 Thanks for all the input. I will summarize what I have found so far about engine replacements. Much to my surprise pricing for new Yanmar engines with similar hp (55 hp) to the old engine pricing is better in Canada compared to the US. With "boat show" pricing I have been quoted $14,900 US (list $18320) for a 4JH5E or 4JH57. Of course with Yanmar products they can't be shipped to other regions so I would have to pick it up in the US and pay state tax, followed by Canadian tax when it is brought into Canada. (total about 20% :( ) Canadian pricing is approx $14900 CAN, roughly 10% less given the exchange rate and I wouldn't incur the US state tax. As many recommend Beta as an alternative to Yanmar I started looking at them as well. The 50 hp option is about $14,000 CAN before any options (higher output alternator, longer wiring harness etc) and this is before adding any of the items required to change engine mounts, exhaust etc. I don't see the significant savings I was expecting based on others experience.It sounds like maintainability (parts, access) are better than Yanmar so savings aren't only $. I am likely going to put in a remanufactured Yanmar 4JH3 which I have been told should be a drop in fully replacement with the same hp as my turbocharged older model. It sounds like Schooner Bay have an excellent reputation delivering fully remanufactured engines for less than half the price of a new engine. Thanks for everyones input. I will update the list as my project proceeds. Jon C&C 44 Mor' Childs Play Kingston ON ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com