Stus-List paint on the hull

[Bev Parslow via CnC-List]

Used the acetone and then  polished it out. It worked great. Any idea for the 
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Stus-List C Northeast Rendezvous Recap

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

Greetings from Branford, CT, just shy of 40 miles away from Greenport, the 
location of our C Northeast Rendezvous. 

Though big Westerly winds (and waves) kept some from attending, the presence of 
Hanuman, Harbor Lights, Aries, Hideaway, the Enterprise and, from as far away 
as Maryland, the owners of Sea Hawk, made for another spectacular event. 

Great food, great friends, great stories and great booze running from rum, dark 
n stormies, moonshine, beers, scotch, cheap wine, reportedly expensive wine, 
and, yes, Romulan Ale (illegal, but we were 100 miles from Federation space). 

The C boat show (informal tours of attendees' boats) was very well attended, 
and both interesting and informative. The Sunday 6:30am calisthenics? Not so 
much. Especially after burning the midnight oil having C's (cocktails and 
cigars) on our C's. 

The days went by too quickly and it wasn't long before a major announcement had 
to be made:

Announcing the 2018 C Northeast Rendezvous in Port Jefferson! Stay tuned for 
details as they are formed. 

Thanks to all for a fantastic ultra-memorable weekend. 

All the best,

Edd

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Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 140, Issue 45

[Hervey Machen via CnC-List]

Thanks all for the info, I just added another item on the to do list for
the winter, fuel tank, hoses etc.
Hervey,
Ciothog
35-1

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>3. Re:  Fuel tank replacement 35-1 (wwadjo...@aol.com)
>4. Re:  Height of C 40 (PETER OCAMPO)
>5. Re:  Fuel tank replacement 35-1 (Joe Della Barba)
>6. Re:  Question about awlgrip hull pain (Dave Godwin)
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Josh Muckley 
> To: "C List" 
> Cc:
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> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:49:28 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Height of C 40
> It is important to differentiate between the 1980's vintage of C 40 and
> the 1994/1995 C 40 which is the same series as the 37+, 37/40, 37R, and
> 37XL which started in 1989.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 8, 2017 10:46 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Does anyone know the height of a standard C 40 from keel to highest
>> point on cabin or pulpit  boat transporter needs to know
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peter
>> C 40
>>
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> Cc:
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> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 07:53:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Question about awlgrip hull pain
> There is also Awlcraft 2000 which is a "softer", more easily repaired
> version of Awlgrip.  I had Touche' painted with Awlcraft in 2011.  Still
> looks great.  Still getting compliments.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Awlgrip is the original paint which is beautiful because it has a color
>> and clear coat in the same application.  The color settles and the clear
>> comes to the surface.  This makes for the brilliant, long lasting shine.
>> The problem comes when repairs are required.  In order to repair a damaged
>> area the border between old and nem needs to be feathered in.  This creates
>> a halo around the damaged area and is caused by the separate layers of
>> clear and color.  The company insists that only their soap is formulated to
>> prevent damaging the finish.  They also insist that any amount of
>> polishing/buffing/sanding/or waxing will cause damage to the paint,
>> subsequently hold dirt and look dull.
>>
>> Awlgrip has come out with a newer product called Awlgrip 2000 and it
>> doesn't have the separate clear and color parts.  It isn't quite as
>> beautiful when new but it is easier to repair.  I'm not sure about
>> polishing.
>>
>> There is a second company which was recommended to me by a boat yard
>> called Alex Seal.  They said that it looks and works almost exactly like
>> Awlgrip 2000 but is cheaper.  They pointed to what looked like a new travel
>> lift and said they had rebuilt it 5 years ago and that it was a 20 year old
>> lift.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
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> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:54:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1
>
> Thanks Dennis...
> Bill Walker
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: PETER OCAMPO 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:55:17 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Height of C 40
> My bad
>
> 1983 7 ft keel. Aft cabin
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
> C 40 1983
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> It is important to differentiate between the 1980's vintage of C 40 and
> the 1994/1995 C 40 which is the same series as the 37+, 37/40, 37R, and
> 37XL which started in 1989.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 8, 2017 10:46 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Does 

Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Franklin Schenk via CnC-List]

Marek,
I would never use a thong for a fuel filter.  It makes women angry. :)
Frank 

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:47 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 

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{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv8694052617 I had one like that and also the 
$5 more version, the Maxximum. Each lasted about 3 times. They must ave been 
the Monday morning production. The only good thong was that they all failed 
quickly enough to get the refund.
MarekFrom: CnC-List  on behalf of Persuasion37 
via CnC-List 
Sent: September 10, 2017 12:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Persuasion37
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search Merek
I'm trying to remember there I bought my last one.  I think it was either 
Canadian Tire or Princess Auto.  I bought the cheap ones and they don't last 
long. Although the one I bought I consider it cheap as it was in the 20-25 
dollar range.
I think this is the one I've had for a few years.  
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-drill-pump-kit-0543802p.html#srp
MikePERSUASION
C 37 K/CBLong Sault
On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List  
wrote:



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Maybe I am unlucky, but I never had any of these pumps last longer than a 
couple-three times.   Marek   Sent from Mail for Windows 10   From: 
Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 21:39
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Persuasion37
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search   Denis   I use a cheap 
transfer pump operated by a drill.  Pumps 5 gals in a couple of minutes.  No 
more trying to for fuel through a funnel and no spills.  Can pump a jerry can 
dry, less than a tbsp.  Now you purist hush.  I'm pumping diesel.  Been doing 
it for 4 years.   MikePERSUASIONC 37 K/CBLong Sault   > On Sep 8, 2017, at 
12:06 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  wrote:   
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement

[John and Maryann Read via CnC-List]

Yup we now have our winter project - replace the 35 year old tank before it
gives up the ghost.  Measured ours and is exactly same as Robert's.  Keep us
all posted on what you find

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C 34
Noank, CT
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert
Subject: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement

I just measured my fuel tank.27" wide, 16" deep, 12" height+7" 
top clearance to the cockpit solenot the easiest to access to remove 
it but doable with some four letter words and beers.   Need to ensure 
the in fill on the tank has a 90 deg. intake to make connecting the in hose
easy, maybe simply doable!

I like the idea of the Moeller tanks that are transparent.not just to
determine the fuel level but possibly seeing anything in the tank.  
Someone here , maybe Dennis, earlier gave me a Moeller 19 gallon part 
#.   The hunt is now on.

The position Bill is in now is just the position I stated the other day I
did not want to be inreplaced the fuel tank because it is now, or near
now, that the tank will need to be replaced.

Good luck to you Billlet us know how you fair out.what tank you
acquire.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2017-09-10 9:40 AM, William Walker via CnC-List wrote:
>
> All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on 
> Fridayreally.
> Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have. Espar 
> furnace and refrigeration complicate things for me.Dei Dennis, what 
> tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in plastic?  
> Or do the come ready to go?
> Bill Walker CnC 36
> Penteater, Mi
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>


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Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Probably this site:

http://www.fillernecksupply.com/fuel-hose-elbows/?sort=featured=1

Gates makes cut to fit hose elbows.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Look at the Moeller web site, they have a huge collection of tanks. I seem
> to remember there is one which had an angled in fill on a corner which was
> a
> little big for my boat, but may fit yours.
>
> There is also a site called "fuel hoses" or similar with all sorts of
> fittings including elbows - it may be "fuel hose elbows".  Google gave it
> to
> me. As they are the same size as the hose, you need a little nipple.
>
> Gary
> .
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:03 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: robert 
> Subject: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement
>
> I just measured my fuel tank.27" wide, 16" deep, 12" height+7"
> top clearance to the cockpit solenot the easiest to access to remove
> it but doable with some four letter words and beers.   Need to ensure
> the in fill on the tank has a 90 deg. intake to make connecting the in hose
> easy, maybe simply doable!
>
> I like the idea of the Moeller tanks that are transparent.not just to
> determine the fuel level but possibly seeing anything in the tank.
> Someone here , maybe Dennis, earlier gave me a Moeller 19 gallon part
> #.   The hunt is now on.
>
> The position Bill is in now is just the position I stated the other day I
> did not want to be inreplaced the fuel tank because it is now, or near
> now, that the tank will need to be replaced.
>
> Good luck to you Billlet us know how you fair out.what tank you
> acquire.
>
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
>
> On 2017-09-10 9:40 AM, William Walker via CnC-List wrote:
> >
> > All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on
> > Fridayreally.
> > Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have. Espar
> > furnace and refrigeration complicate things for me.Dei Dennis, what
> > tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in plastic?
> > Or do the come ready to go?
> > Bill Walker CnC 36
> > Penteater, Mi
> >
> > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Look at the Moeller web site, they have a huge collection of tanks. I seem
to remember there is one which had an angled in fill on a corner which was a
little big for my boat, but may fit yours.

There is also a site called "fuel hoses" or similar with all sorts of
fittings including elbows - it may be "fuel hose elbows".  Google gave it to
me. As they are the same size as the hose, you need a little nipple.

Gary
.
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of robert
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 3:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: robert 
Subject: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement

I just measured my fuel tank.27" wide, 16" deep, 12" height+7" 
top clearance to the cockpit solenot the easiest to access to remove 
it but doable with some four letter words and beers.   Need to ensure 
the in fill on the tank has a 90 deg. intake to make connecting the in hose
easy, maybe simply doable!

I like the idea of the Moeller tanks that are transparent.not just to
determine the fuel level but possibly seeing anything in the tank.  
Someone here , maybe Dennis, earlier gave me a Moeller 19 gallon part 
#.   The hunt is now on.

The position Bill is in now is just the position I stated the other day I
did not want to be inreplaced the fuel tank because it is now, or near
now, that the tank will need to be replaced.

Good luck to you Billlet us know how you fair out.what tank you
acquire.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2017-09-10 9:40 AM, William Walker via CnC-List wrote:
>
> All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on 
> Fridayreally.
> Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have. Espar 
> furnace and refrigeration complicate things for me.Dei Dennis, what 
> tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in plastic?  
> Or do the come ready to go?
> Bill Walker CnC 36
> Penteater, Mi
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>


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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I had one like that and also the $5 more version, the Maxximum. Each lasted 
about 3 times. They must ave been the Monday morning production. The only good 
thong was that they all failed quickly enough to get the refund.

Marek

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Persuasion37 via 
CnC-List 
Sent: September 10, 2017 12:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Persuasion37
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

Merek

I'm trying to remember there I bought my last one.  I think it was either 
Canadian Tire or Princess Auto.  I bought the cheap ones and they don't last 
long. Although the one I bought I consider it cheap as it was in the 20-25 
dollar range.

I think this is the one I've had for a few years.  
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-drill-pump-kit-0543802p.html#srp

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Maybe I am unlucky, but I never had any of these pumps last longer than a 
couple-three times.

Marek

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Persuasion37 via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 21:39
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Persuasion37
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

Denis

I use a cheap transfer pump operated by a drill.  Pumps 5 gals in a couple of 
minutes.  No more trying to for fuel through a funnel and no spills.  Can pump 
a jerry can dry, less than a tbsp.  Now you purist hush.  I'm pumping diesel.  
Been doing it for 4 years.

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> > wrote:

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Stus-List Fuel tank replacement

[robert via CnC-List]

Dennis:

I looked at the Moeller 19 gal. ( 032597)..the fitting for the in 
fill hose and the vent hose are nothing like I have now.my in fill 
hose is approx. 2" .are there special adapters needed.


I can send you a few pictures of my existing tank configuration off line 
so you can understand.


Rob

On 2017-09-10 9:47 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
I have a Plastimo (black) but would rather have a Moeller 
(translucent) because you can see the fuel level.  Not sure about your 
configuration but you should be able to find a close fit.


http://moellermarine.com/product-category/fuel-containment/permanent-fuel-tanks/

Determine which model best fits then go online shopping using the 
model number.


Dennis C.



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Stus-List Fuel tank replacement

[robert via CnC-List]

I just measured my fuel tank.27" wide, 16" deep, 12" height+7" 
top clearance to the cockpit solenot the easiest to access to remove 
it but doable with some four letter words and beers.   Need to ensure 
the in fill on the tank has a 90 deg. intake to make connecting the in 
hose easy, maybe simply doable!


I like the idea of the Moeller tanks that are transparent.not just 
to determine the fuel level but possibly seeing anything in the tank.  
Someone here , maybe Dennis, earlier gave me a Moeller 19 gallon part 
#.   The hunt is now on.


The position Bill is in now is just the position I stated the other day 
I did not want to be inreplaced the fuel tank because it is now, or 
near now, that the tank will need to be replaced.


Good luck to you Billlet us know how you fair out.what tank you 
acquire.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2017-09-10 9:40 AM, William Walker via CnC-List wrote:


All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on 
Fridayreally.
Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have. Espar 
furnace and refrigeration complicate things for me.Dei
Dennis, what tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install 
in plastic?  Or do the come ready to go?

Bill Walker CnC 36
Penteater, Mi

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail





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Re: Stus-List Question about awlgrip hull pain

[Allen Miles via CnC-List]

Septum is 30-2 #167. She has a Universal 20 up diesel


On Sep 10, 2017 11:18 AM, "Chad Osmond via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> > Apparently the broker thinks this is one of the last 30 mark iis of
> it's era made and it has a universal diesel.
>
> Check the hull number, it will be on the transom, and in the aft cabin
> beside the stove.
> The last few digits show the hull number, it'll be between 140?-175.
>
> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've come across this interesting 1990 c 30 mark ii but the hull has
>> been painted with awlgrip.
>>
>> http://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1990-c-c-fiberglass-30-62
>> 59222/#.WbMazdEpCfA
>>
>> From what I'm reading about thisnpaint looks good for a couple years but
>> then can be a real PITA and expensive long term. I searched the forum for
>> related posts but didn't find much. Thoughts on whether folks think it's a
>> really bad idea to have this paint on the hull?
>>
>> Apparently the broker thinks this is one of the last 30 mark iis of it's
>> era made and it has a universal diesel.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lisle
>>
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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

Merek

I'm trying to remember there I bought my last one.  I think it was either 
Canadian Tire or Princess Auto.  I bought the cheap ones and they don't last 
long. Although the one I bought I consider it cheap as it was in the 20-25 
dollar range.

I think this is the one I've had for a few years.  
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-drill-pump-kit-0543802p.html#srp

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I am unlucky, but I never had any of these pumps last longer than a 
> couple-three times.
>  
> Marek
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: Persuasion37 via CnC-List
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 21:39
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Persuasion37
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search
>  
> Denis
>  
> I use a cheap transfer pump operated by a drill.  Pumps 5 gals in a couple of 
> minutes.  No more trying to for fuel through a funnel and no spills.  Can 
> pump a jerry can dry, less than a tbsp.  Now you purist hush.  I'm pumping 
> diesel.  Been doing it for 4 years.
>  
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
>  
> > On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:06 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> > wrote:
>  
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Re: Stus-List Irma's Impact on Tortola

[Craig Cochran via CnC-List]

Was Bareboat Manager for a charter company in Tortola for over 8 years and had 
our C 39 there. Shipped her to Scotland when we moved. Hard to see all our 
friends boats that we used to race against, in various states from sunk to 
dismasted.along with my old charter fleet.

 Original message 
From: Edward Levert via CnC-List 
Date: 07/09/2017 22:04 (GMT+00:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Edward Levert 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Irma's Impact on Tortola


On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:39 PM Rick Brass via CnC-List 
> wrote:
Cruising Compass has a before and after view of the picture of Parquita Bay on 
the south side of Tortola.

There is also a link to YouTube videos of the damage to St. Martin.

Here is a link: http://www.bwsailing.com/cc/


Rick Brass
Washington, NC


The infrastructure for yachting will be back in the BVI and Texas long before 
New Orleans rebuilds the Municipal Yacht Harbor.

Ed Levert
C 34 Briarpatch
New Orleans

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Behalf Of Randal Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 10:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Randal Stafford 
>
Subject: Stus-List Irma's Impact on Tortola

This is a sad picture: 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/09/07/11/43FCB37F0578-4861184-Boats_piled_up_as_the_eye_of_Hurricane_Irma_passed_over_Tortola_-a-4_1504778890915.jpg

Sadly,
Randy
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Re: Stus-List Question about awlgrip hull pain

[Chad Osmond via CnC-List]

> Apparently the broker thinks this is one of the last 30 mark iis of it's
era made and it has a universal diesel.

Check the hull number, it will be on the transom, and in the aft cabin
beside the stove.
The last few digits show the hull number, it'll be between 140?-175.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've come across this interesting 1990 c 30 mark ii but the hull has
> been painted with awlgrip.
>
> http://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1990-c-c-fiberglass-30-
> 6259222/#.WbMazdEpCfA
>
> From what I'm reading about thisnpaint looks good for a couple years but
> then can be a real PITA and expensive long term. I searched the forum for
> related posts but didn't find much. Thoughts on whether folks think it's a
> really bad idea to have this paint on the hull?
>
> Apparently the broker thinks this is one of the last 30 mark iis of it's
> era made and it has a universal diesel.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lisle
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Re: Stus-List Question about awlgrip hull pain

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Yep, sorry guys, I stand corrected.  It was Awlcraft 2000 to which I meant
to refer.  Awlgrip 2000 doesn't exist.

Josh



On Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 8:54 AM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> There is also Awlcraft 2000 which is a "softer", more easily repaired
> version of Awlgrip.  I had Touche' painted with Awlcraft in 2011.  Still
> looks great.  Still getting compliments.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Awlgrip is the original paint which is beautiful because it has a color
>> and clear coat in the same application.  The color settles and the clear
>> comes to the surface.  This makes for the brilliant, long lasting shine.
>> The problem comes when repairs are required.  In order to repair a damaged
>> area the border between old and nem needs to be feathered in.  This creates
>> a halo around the damaged area and is caused by the separate layers of
>> clear and color.  The company insists that only their soap is formulated to
>> prevent damaging the finish.  They also insist that any amount of
>> polishing/buffing/sanding/or waxing will cause damage to the paint,
>> subsequently hold dirt and look dull.
>>
>> Awlgrip has come out with a newer product called Awlgrip 2000 and it
>> doesn't have the separate clear and color parts.  It isn't quite as
>> beautiful when new but it is easier to repair.  I'm not sure about
>> polishing.
>>
>> There is a second company which was recommended to me by a boat yard
>> called Alex Seal.  They said that it looks and works almost exactly like
>> Awlgrip 2000 but is cheaper.  They pointed to what looked like a new travel
>> lift and said they had rebuilt it 5 years ago and that it was a 20 year old
>> lift.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Question about awlgrip hull pain

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

I used Awlcraft 2000 for the hull and the decks. I had already decided to use 
it after talking to the Alexseal rep (good stuff, same as Awlcraft 2000) and 
when conferring with my painter he said that that was they only shot Awlcraft 
on new builds and repairs. Another former professional painter from Zimmerman 
Marine preferred it.

I’ve been able do some buffing of areas with a bit of orange peel. 
Repairability was tops on my list both because I was going to be doing the 
painting and because I run into things. Often...

As far as it not being as “beautiful” as Awlgrip, well, I’m fairly certain that 
no-one can tell the difference between well-done Awlcraft and Awlgrip. Maybe a 
professional.

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> There is also Awlcraft 2000 which is a "softer", more easily repaired version 
> of Awlgrip.  I had Touche' painted with Awlcraft in 2011.  Still looks great. 
>  Still getting compliments.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
> Awlgrip is the original paint which is beautiful because it has a color and 
> clear coat in the same application.  The color settles and the clear comes to 
> the surface.  This makes for the brilliant, long lasting shine.  The problem 
> comes when repairs are required.  In order to repair a damaged area the 
> border between old and nem needs to be feathered in.  This creates a halo 
> around the damaged area and is caused by the separate layers of clear and 
> color.  The company insists that only their soap is formulated to prevent 
> damaging the finish.  They also insist that any amount of 
> polishing/buffing/sanding/or waxing will cause damage to the paint, 
> subsequently hold dirt and look dull.
> 
> Awlgrip has come out with a newer product called Awlgrip 2000 and it doesn't 
> have the separate clear and color parts.  It isn't quite as beautiful when 
> new but it is easier to repair.  I'm not sure about polishing.
> 
> There is a second company which was recommended to me by a boat yard called 
> Alex Seal.  They said that it looks and works almost exactly like Awlgrip 
> 2000 but is cheaper.  They pointed to what looked like a new travel lift and 
> said they had rebuilt it 5 years ago and that it was a 20 year old lift.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I have replaced my fuel tank. It is pretty easy, it comes right out once you 
empty all the stuff out of the locker.
WARNING: 

The original fuel tank in the MK I is ternplate and it WILL leak sooner or 
later.

The original fill and vent hoses are NOT ethanol rated and will dissolve from 
the inside out, dropping rubber pieces into the tank.

The 90 degree rubber elbow thing is NOT fuel rated and will come apart sooner 
or later. Mine spilt while fueling and dumped 5 gallons into the bilge. I got a 
new one fabricated from aluminum at my local welding shop.

A C 35 MK I exploded and burned after refueling and I will bet anything it 
was the rubber elbow. I would have too if I hadn’t caught it with the blower.

The supply hose is likewise not ethanol rated. If you still have copper line, 
that is no longer used, it eventually cracks.

Really nothing but the filler should be original and I got a new cap for that 
because the old O-ring was not sealing.

 

I think my tank now is this one – been awhile since I bought it.

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/rds-manufacturing--below-deck-aluminum-fuel-tank-18ga--244485?recordNum=2

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com  

 

Coquina

C 35 MK i

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:47 AM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

 

I have a Plastimo (black) but would rather have a Moeller (translucent) because 
you can see the fuel level.  Not sure about your configuration but you should 
be able to find a close fit.

 

http://moellermarine.com/product-category/fuel-containment/permanent-fuel-tanks/

 

Determine which model best fits then go online shopping using the model number.

 

Dennis C.

 

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, William Walker via CnC-List 
 > wrote:

All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on 
Fridayreally.
Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have.  Espar furnace and 
refrigeration complicate things for me.
Dennis, what tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in 
plastic?  Or do the come ready to go?
Bill Walker CnC 36
Penteater, Mi

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

  _  

On Saturday, September 9, 2017 Dennis C. via CnC-List  > wrote:

Like Neil says, removing the tank is not difficult.  Last time I pulled mine 
took less than an hour.  I needed to get to the strut bolts.

 

The concern is the elbow on the fill hose.  If you damage it, replacement may 
be difficult.  Gates makes an elbow that can be cut to fit but you may need a 
coupling or nipple to make it work.

 

If your fill hose is original, I STRONGLY suggest you replace it.  It is well 
past its useful life.

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
 > wrote:

Hervey,

Getting it out was not too difficult,  the tank fits out through the lazarette 
under the starboard seat.  My tank was held in place by two galvanized steel 
straps, corrosion from which caused the leak. Hardest part was undoing the fill 
and vent connections, had to get to them through the panel at the aft end of 
the port quarter berth. 

As someone mentioned in a recent post, getting the fill hose back on was a 
pain.  If I recall there's an elbow just off the tank connection, little bit of 
a struggle to make it tight.  I used fabric straps to hold the new plastic tank 
down.  My tank gauge has never worked so I just look through the wall of the 
tank to see the level.

 


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Re: Stus-List Height of C 40

[PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List]

My bad

1983 7 ft keel. Aft cabin

Thanks

Peter
C 40 1983

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is important to differentiate between the 1980's vintage of C 40 and the 
> 1994/1995 C 40 which is the same series as the 37+, 37/40, 37R, and 37XL 
> which started in 1989.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2017 10:46 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List"  
>> wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Does anyone know the height of a standard C 40 from keel to highest point 
>> on cabin or pulpit  boat transporter needs to know
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Peter
>> C 40
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[William Walker via CnC-List]

Thanks Dennis...
Bill Walker 




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Re: Stus-List Question about awlgrip hull pain

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

There is also Awlcraft 2000 which is a "softer", more easily repaired
version of Awlgrip.  I had Touche' painted with Awlcraft in 2011.  Still
looks great.  Still getting compliments.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Awlgrip is the original paint which is beautiful because it has a color
> and clear coat in the same application.  The color settles and the clear
> comes to the surface.  This makes for the brilliant, long lasting shine.
> The problem comes when repairs are required.  In order to repair a damaged
> area the border between old and nem needs to be feathered in.  This creates
> a halo around the damaged area and is caused by the separate layers of
> clear and color.  The company insists that only their soap is formulated to
> prevent damaging the finish.  They also insist that any amount of
> polishing/buffing/sanding/or waxing will cause damage to the paint,
> subsequently hold dirt and look dull.
>
> Awlgrip has come out with a newer product called Awlgrip 2000 and it
> doesn't have the separate clear and color parts.  It isn't quite as
> beautiful when new but it is easier to repair.  I'm not sure about
> polishing.
>
> There is a second company which was recommended to me by a boat yard
> called Alex Seal.  They said that it looks and works almost exactly like
> Awlgrip 2000 but is cheaper.  They pointed to what looked like a new travel
> lift and said they had rebuilt it 5 years ago and that it was a 20 year old
> lift.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Height of C 40

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

It is important to differentiate between the 1980's vintage of C 40 and
the 1994/1995 C 40 which is the same series as the 37+, 37/40, 37R, and
37XL which started in 1989.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 8, 2017 10:46 AM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> Does anyone know the height of a standard C 40 from keel to highest
> point on cabin or pulpit  boat transporter needs to know
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
> C 40
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I have a Plastimo (black) but would rather have a Moeller (translucent)
because you can see the fuel level.  Not sure about your configuration but
you should be able to find a close fit.

http://moellermarine.com/product-category/fuel-containment/permanent-fuel-tanks/

Determine which model best fits then go online shopping using the model
number.

Dennis C.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:40 AM, William Walker via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on
> Fridayreally.
> Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have.  Espar
> furnace and refrigeration complicate things for me.
> Dennis, what tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in
> plastic?  Or do the come ready to go?
> Bill Walker CnC 36
> Penteater, Mi
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> --
> On Saturday, September 9, 2017 Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Like Neil says, removing the tank is not difficult.  Last time I pulled
> mine took less than an hour.  I needed to get to the strut bolts.
>
> The concern is the elbow on the fill hose.  If you damage it, replacement
> may be difficult.  Gates makes an elbow that can be cut to fit but you may
> need a coupling or nipple to make it work.
>
> If your fill hose is original, I STRONGLY suggest you replace it.  It is
> well past its useful life.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hervey,
>>
>> Getting it out was not too difficult,  the tank fits out through the
>> lazarette under the starboard seat.  My tank was held in place by two
>> galvanized steel straps, corrosion from which caused the leak. Hardest part
>> was undoing the fill and vent connections, had to get to them through the
>> panel at the aft end of the port quarter berth.
>>
>> As someone mentioned in a recent post, getting the fill hose back on was
>> a pain.  If I recall there's an elbow just off the tank connection, little
>> bit of a struggle to make it tight.  I used fabric straps to hold the new
>> plastic tank down.  My tank gauge has never worked so I just look through
>> the wall of the tank to see the level.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Fuel tank replacement 35-1

[William Walker via CnC-List]

All this talk about leaking tanks caused mine to spring a leak on 
Fridayreally.
Wish the access on my 36 was as good as others seem to have.  Espar furnace and 
refrigeration complicate things for me.
Dennis, what tank do you recommend?  Good website for fitting install in 
plastic?  Or do the come ready to go?
Bill Walker CnC 36
Penteater, Mi

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

On Saturday, September 9, 2017 Dennis C. via CnC-List  
wrote:

Like Neil says, removing the tank is not difficult.  Last time I pulled mine 
took less than an hour.  I needed to get to the strut bolts.


The concern is the elbow on the fill hose.  If you damage it, replacement may 
be difficult.  Gates makes an elbow that can be cut to fit but you may need a 
coupling or nipple to make it work.


If your fill hose is original, I STRONGLY suggest you replace it.  It is well 
past its useful life.


Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA


On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hervey,

Getting it out was not too difficult,  the tank fits out through the lazarette 
under the starboard seat.  My tank was held in place by two galvanized steel 
straps, corrosion from which caused the leak. Hardest part was undoing the fill 
and vent connections, had to get to them through the panel at the aft end of 
the port quarter berth. 

As someone mentioned in a recent post, getting the fill hose back on was a 
pain.  If I recall there's an elbow just off the tank connection, little bit of 
a struggle to make it tight.  I used fabric straps to hold the new plastic tank 
down.  My tank gauge has never worked so I just look through the wall of the 
tank to see the level.



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Re: Stus-List Question about awlgrip hull pain

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Awlgrip is the original paint which is beautiful because it has a color and
clear coat in the same application.  The color settles and the clear comes
to the surface.  This makes for the brilliant, long lasting shine.  The
problem comes when repairs are required.  In order to repair a damaged area
the border between old and nem needs to be feathered in.  This creates a
halo around the damaged area and is caused by the separate layers of clear
and color.  The company insists that only their soap is formulated to
prevent damaging the finish.  They also insist that any amount of
polishing/buffing/sanding/or waxing will cause damage to the paint,
subsequently hold dirt and look dull.

Awlgrip has come out with a newer product called Awlgrip 2000 and it
doesn't have the separate clear and color parts.  It isn't quite as
beautiful when new but it is easier to repair.  I'm not sure about
polishing.

There is a second company which was recommended to me by a boat yard called
Alex Seal.  They said that it looks and works almost exactly like Awlgrip
2000 but is cheaper.  They pointed to what looked like a new travel lift
and said they had rebuilt it 5 years ago and that it was a 20 year old lift.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Sep 8, 2017 6:43 PM, "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've come across this interesting 1990 c 30 mark ii but the hull has
> been painted with awlgrip.
>
> http://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1990-c-c-fiberglass-30-
> 6259222/#.WbMazdEpCfA
>
> From what I'm reading about thisnpaint looks good for a couple years but
> then can be a real PITA and expensive long term. I searched the forum for
> related posts but didn't find much. Thoughts on whether folks think it's a
> really bad idea to have this paint on the hull?
>
> Apparently the broker thinks this is one of the last 30 mark iis of it's
> era made and it has a universal diesel.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lisle
>
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Re: Stus-List Fuel filter funnel search

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You have to remember that the modern filter funnels don't just allow water
to "drop out".  The filters actually have a hydrophobic coating (green on
mine) which prevents water from passing based on water's surface tension.
 2 different demonstrations can show this.

The first is where water is used to fill the funnel halfway up the filter -
no water exits.  Then diesel is added to the funnel - diesel flows freely
until fuel can be seen on the surface of the water.

The second is where perfectly measured equal portions (about a pint) of
water and diesel are mixed by shaking in a small container.  This mixture
is the added to the funnel and low and behold nothing but pure diesel fuel
exits the funnel, again leaving behind water with no detectable diesel in
the funnel.

It's actually a pretty cool demonstration which I've seen at the boat
shows.  You might be able to find a similar demo on YouTube.  Something
that the instructions mention is testing the filters from time to time by
pouring water in to ensure that it doesn't leak out.  The instructions also
suggest that you can do that "test" prior to each use and then leave that
water in while filling with diesel.  Once done adding diesel, you'll be
left with only water - that which you added plus any that was removed from
the fuel.

Since the filter has the hydrophobic coating you need to be careful not to
damage the coating while cleaning/drying the funnel.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Sep 8, 2017 12:07 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Touche' came with a decent fuel funnel with fine screen in the bottom.  I
> think it's an old EZ-John funnel.  Used it for years but it is very slow.
> Not fun holding a 5 gallon diesel can for 10 minutes while the fuel drains
> so slow.
>
> I bought one of the Mr. Funnel F3 fuel funnels.  While it passes the
> diesel much quicker, you're left with a couple ounces of diesel in the
> funnel.  The design is such that any water would be left in this small
> residual.
>
> It's a pain to deal with that couple ounces left in the funnel's sump.  I
> usually carefully remove the funnel, put the old funnel in the fill fitting
> and pour it in there.  Now I'm left with two wet funnels.
>
> I've searched the Internet for a fuel filter funnel that doesn't have the
> water trapping sump design.  I see Mr. Funnel, Racor and others but they
> all have the water trapping sump.
>
> I'm about to mix up a batch of epoxy and fill the sump up to the bottom of
> the filter screen but that seems like an aggressive solution.  I have a
> Racor 500 to trap water so I'm not overly concerned about removing water.
>
> Any slick ideas out there?
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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