Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Exactly 

 

 

From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:53 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

 

Joe,

 

Touche' has endboom mainsheet with two speed 3:1/6:1 purchase and line control 
traveler with 4:1 purchase.  I can operate both from helm.

 

Is that what you're asking about?

 

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022, 10:13 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you 
operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that 
runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?

My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about looks 
like it could do the job.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

Stus-List Re: Genoa sheets

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

Thanks, Dennis, that's great. If we do end up keeping her another year, I
may just get around to adding a forward track. But we're currently looking
to buy a boat for cruising in Mexico, and don't think we'll be able to keep
two boats.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 2:15 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> For reference, here's a pic of Touche's jib track.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_sb5TfIENvsOWdQOXM1aEQzb0U/view?usp=sharing=0-_jwd_f8MH2sUnmMrG17D_g
>
> The track was located in coordination with my sailmaker when he made the
> 95% headsail.
>
> I trim the 95 between the forward lower and upper shrouds.  I lead the
> sheet through a snatch block on the jib track then aft through the genoa
> car on my long track then to the primary winch.I change at about 17 knots
> true.  Touche' likes the 95.  :)
>
> If the wind builds over 22 kts, we trim to the toe rail to open the slot
> and stand the boat up a bit.  Thankfully, we've only had to do that once or
> twice.
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 3:49 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Just got back from almost 6 weeks on our 35-2, but it has a custom Solent
>> rig with two furlers, 135 on outer, 95 on inner. At the halfway point, the
>> old Harken mk1 furler top swivel exploded and rained bearings on the deck,
>> fortunately on the way in, not out.
>> Anyway, that meant rigging our 95 blade jib for all purpose work, so I
>> currently have the sheets lead outside the shrouds and to the toerail with
>> snatch blocks. The stock genoa track doesn't extend far enough forward for
>> this sail, which is probably similar to a 105-110 when mounted further aft
>> on the inner furler (about 30" aft) - the clew reaches about 10" past the
>> aft lowers.
>> For extended upwind work, I have lead it inboard of the uppers and aft
>> shrouds, but this leaves only a very narrow working range for bearing off,
>> since I had to use the stanchion base or toerail. A longer genoa track
>> forward, or a barberhauler might could improve this.
>> Interestingly, I found we can point nearly as high with it rigged to the
>> toerail, and I have better control of the sail shape. Our last sail home
>> two days ago we blasted past a newer ~40' cruiser by pointing at least 5%
>> higher while maintaining 6+ kts boat speed in 15-18kts TW and current
>> against us. I don't think he was trying that hard though, whereas we wanted
>> to get through before the current made it impossible with the huge tides
>> this week. One of the issues I've found with this blade jib is that it
>> doesn't seem to create a decent slot effect with the main due to minimal
>> overlap, so I am often trimming the main independently of the jib (ie:
>> hardened up more) to get better boat speed, at least until the AW is over
>> 15, at which point the main needs to be eased a bit.
>>
>> --
>> Shawn Wright
>> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>> S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
>> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 6:03 PM Donald Kern via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul
>>> It kind of depends on your track set up.  My #4 (~110%) leads outside
>>> the forward lower and inside center upper and aft lower.
>>>
>>> Don Kern
>>> *Fireball*, C Mk2
>>> Bristol, RI
>>>
>>> On 7/9/2022 1:11 PM, Paul Florin via CnC-List wrote:
>>>
>>> On a 35ft C MK II with a 110% genoa, sheets inside or outside shrouds?
>>>
>>> -- Paul Florin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Shawn Wright via CnC-List]

I have a 5:1 which I picked up from a parts 35 a few years ago, and it's a
great improvement. If the cam cleat is hard to release, it usually means I
should have reefed 5 knots ago...

I use a snap shackle to the traveller car for quickly swinging the boom to
the rail when at anchor.

Currently looking at a longer range cruiser, and one of the things I will
miss is easy mainsheet adjustment.

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 8:13 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you
> operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that
> runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
> Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?
>
> My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about
> looks like it could do the job.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

Joe,

I have the system you're describing.  Just a plain 6:1 through a cam 
cleat on a Harken traveler car with continuous control line.  It's 
great, I can sail from the windward rail just like a dingy, wheel in one 
hand and sheet or traveler in the other.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY


On 7/15/2022 7:34 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:


My traveler is just ahead of the wheel.

Having the sheer control there would be quite convenient.

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

My traveler is just ahead of the wheel.

Having the sheer control there would be quite convenient.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER  
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 1:30 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 35 Mainsheet

 

Hey Joe, 

4:1 mainsheet is fine for the light winds of Chesapeake Bay until the wind 
fills in and then 6:1 would be much better.  4:1 with a fine tune added would 
be the best solution.  The C 99 has a 4:1 / 8:1 mainsheet that works well. 

 

My 34R has 5:1 with a 20:1 double ended fine tune.  This allows me to release 
the mainsheet in a very controlled manner when it's heavily loaded, rounding 
the windward mark.  

 

Where is your traveller now?

 

Chuck S

On 07/15/2022 11:13 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you 
operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that 
runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?

My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about looks 
like it could do the job.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

Stus-List Re: Non- Gooey VHF handheld

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

I'll have to get some and try it.



> On 07/15/2022 7:14 PM Josh via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it is but that's just my opinion.  Naphtha seems to cut wax way 
> better and evaporates completely.  I use it to clean up bees wax after 
> rendering, removing adhesive labels from jars, and removing electrical tape 
> residue.  When I rebedded a deck fitting the naphtha cut the butyl nicely.  
> Recently I had a Nikon pocket camera that had a rubberized finish.  The 
> camera had been stored for a while and the rubberized surface broke down to a 
> gooey mess.  I used a rag and naphtha to clean it up.  YMMV
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
> Jul 15, 2022 18:46:34 CHARLES SCHEAFFER :
> 
> > > Mineral spirits has been my "go-to" for vinyl and 
> plastics.  Is Naptha thinner better?
> > 
> > Chuck S
> > 
> > > > > On 07/15/2022 4:25 PM Josh via CnC-List 
> >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I've had all manner of rubberized electronics do this.  I 
> > > have had pretty good luck using Naphtha thinner to clean up the goo.  It 
> > > leaves a raw plastic finish with no residue.  Might take some elbow 
> > > grease but saving a $100 or $200 dollar radio seems worth it.
> > > 
> > > Josh Muckley
> > > S/V Sea Hawk
> > > 1989 C 37+
> > > Solomons, MD
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Jul 14, 2022 16:02:43 Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
> > > :
> > > 
> > > > > > > I am afraid I'm going to have to 
> > > ditch my standard horizon 850 handheld. It has gotten so gooey, I can't 
> > > stand to touch it, not to mention any place I leave it, it leaves gooey 
> > > stuff. I blame the company for outsourcing to China. I wonder if anybody 
> > > has a handheld that they feel the rubber is of a decent quality that it 
> > > won't go to hell in a hand basket in a few years? I'm kind of looking for 
> > > a mid-grade, maybe like an Icon m73 plus? I like the idea of being able 
> > > to repeat the last minute of audio, as I have gotten so accustomed to 
> > > backing up on my TV when I can't hear something clearly.
> > > > 
> > > > Bill Coleman
> > > > Entrada Erie PA 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 

Stus-List Re: Non- Gooey VHF handheld

[Josh via CnC-List]

I think it is but that's just my opinion.  Naphtha seems to cut wax way better 
and evaporates completely.  I use it to clean up bees wax after rendering, 
removing adhesive labels from jars, and removing electrical tape residue.  When 
I rebedded a deck fitting the naphtha cut the butyl nicely.  Recently I had a 
Nikon pocket camera that had a rubberized finish.  The camera had been stored 
for a while and the rubberized surface broke down to a gooey mess.  I used a 
rag and naphtha to clean it up.  YMMV

Josh

Jul 15, 2022 18:46:34 CHARLES SCHEAFFER :

> Mineral spirits has been my "go-to" for vinyl and plastics.  Is Naptha 
> thinner better?
> 
> Chuck S
> On 07/15/2022 4:25 PM Josh via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've had all manner of rubberized electronics do this.  I have had pretty 
> good luck using Naphtha thinner to clean up the goo.  It leaves a raw plastic 
> finish with no residue.  Might take some elbow grease but saving a $100 or 
> $200 dollar radio seems worth it.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> Jul 14, 2022 16:02:43 Bill Coleman via CnC-List :
> 
> I am afraid I'm going to have to ditch my standard horizon 850 handheld. It 
> has gotten so gooey, I can't stand to touch it, not to mention any place I 
> leave it, it leaves gooey stuff. I blame the company for outsourcing to 
> China. I wonder if anybody has a handheld that they feel the rubber is of a 
> decent quality that it won't go to hell in a hand basket in a few years? I'm 
> kind of looking for a mid-grade, maybe like an Icon m73 plus? I like the idea 
> of being able to repeat the last minute of audio, as I have gotten so 
> accustomed to backing up on my TV when I can't hear something clearly.
> 
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie PA 
> 

Stus-List Re: Non- Gooey VHF handheld

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Mineral spirits has been my "go-to" for vinyl and plastics.  Is Naptha thinner 
better?

Chuck S

> On 07/15/2022 4:25 PM Josh via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've had all manner of rubberized electronics do this.  I have had pretty 
> good luck using Naphtha thinner to clean up the goo.  It leaves a raw plastic 
> finish with no residue.  Might take some elbow grease but saving a $100 or 
> $200 dollar radio seems worth it.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> 
> Jul 14, 2022 16:02:43 Bill Coleman via CnC-List :
> 
> > > I am afraid I'm going to have to ditch my standard 
> horizon 850 handheld. It has gotten so gooey, I can't stand to touch it, not 
> to mention any place I leave it, it leaves gooey stuff. I blame the company 
> for outsourcing to China. I wonder if anybody has a handheld that they feel 
> the rubber is of a decent quality that it won't go to hell in a hand basket 
> in a few years? I'm kind of looking for a mid-grade, maybe like an Icon m73 
> plus? I like the idea of being able to repeat the last minute of audio, as I 
> have gotten so accustomed to backing up on my TV when I can't hear something 
> clearly.
> > 
> > Bill Coleman
> > Entrada Erie PA 
> > 
> > 
> > > 

Stus-List Re: Non- Gooey VHF handheld

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Some plastics turn into a soft goo after a while. Actually, cleaning with 
alcohol usually works better.

Marek



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 Original message 
From: Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
Date: 2022-07-15 14:39 (GMT-05:00)
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Korbey Hunt 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Non- Gooey VHF handheld

Did you handle Deet / mosquito repellent with radio.  It will soften some 
plastics.  Try cleaning it with acetone before you pitch it.

Get Outlook for 
Android

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 12:01:46 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Non- Gooey VHF handheld

I am afraid I'm going to have to ditch my standard horizon 850 handheld. It has 
gotten so gooey, I can't stand to touch it, not to mention any place I leave 
it, it leaves gooey stuff. I blame the company for outsourcing to China. I 
wonder if anybody has a handheld that they feel the rubber is of a decent 
quality that it won't go to hell in a hand basket in a few years? I'm kind of 
looking for a mid-grade, maybe like an Icon m73 plus? I like the idea of being 
able to repeat the last minute of audio, as I have gotten so accustomed to 
backing up on my TV when I can't hear something clearly.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

Stus-List Re: Non- Gooey VHF handheld

[Josh via CnC-List]

I've had all manner of rubberized electronics do this.  I have had pretty good 
luck using Naphtha thinner to clean up the goo.  It leaves a raw plastic finish 
with no residue.  Might take some elbow grease but saving a $100 or $200 dollar 
radio seems worth it.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

Jul 14, 2022 16:02:43 Bill Coleman via CnC-List :

> I am afraid I'm going to have to ditch my standard horizon 850 handheld. It 
> has gotten so gooey, I can't stand to touch it, not to mention any place I 
> leave it, it leaves gooey stuff. I blame the company for outsourcing to 
> China. I wonder if anybody has a handheld that they feel the rubber is of a 
> decent quality that it won't go to hell in a hand basket in a few years? I'm 
> kind of looking for a mid-grade, maybe like an Icon m73 plus? I like the idea 
> of being able to repeat the last minute of audio, as I have gotten so 
> accustomed to backing up on my TV when I can't hear something clearly.
> 
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada Erie PA 
>>  

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

The Harken version is in the catalog on p 260, the middle example. What you use 
at the boom and is irrelevant, as long as you have enough blocks up there.

Marek



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 Original message 
From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Date: 2022-07-15 16:16 (GMT-05:00)
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Marek Dziedzic 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

Different boat, but my C270 had very similar arrangement (4:1, one end on the 
traveller, the other going to the mast and back to the winch).

I changed it to 3:1/6:1 double line arrangement. It requires a special double 
cam block on the traveller. Garhauer has one like that available. I think that 
Harken has a block like this, as well.

It works really well. When you use both ends, it works as a 3:1 - great for 
rough adjustments (it works really well for gybes). When you use a single line, 
it works as 6:1 giving you a way for fine tuning and the extra purchase in a 
blow.

I highly recommend this solution

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa ON

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 Original message 
From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Date: 2022-07-15 11:13 (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List C 35 Mainsheet

Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you 
operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that 
runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?
My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about looks 
like it could do the job.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Different boat, but my C270 had very similar arrangement (4:1, one end on the 
traveller, the other going to the mast and back to the winch).

I changed it to 3:1/6:1 double line arrangement. It requires a special double 
cam block on the traveller. Garhauer has one like that available. I think that 
Harken has a block like this, as well.

It works really well. When you use both ends, it works as a 3:1 - great for 
rough adjustments (it works really well for gybes). When you use a single line, 
it works as 6:1 giving you a way for fine tuning and the extra purchase in a 
blow.

I highly recommend this solution

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa ON

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 Original message 
From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
Date: 2022-07-15 11:13 (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List C 35 Mainsheet

Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you 
operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that 
runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?
My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about looks 
like it could do the job.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Joe,

Here's links to Touche' mainsheet setup:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WYvPYebeohIWVjUJOS_d_76znFGK3x4q/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_sb5TfIENvsYUthaHZFWVpnVUE/view?usp=sharing=0-j5njT6zojD3Nvlp1iX-ilQ

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_sb5TfIENvsMVh3czhWRUhCalE/view?usp=sharing=0-uolUze_-gZeU9KqqgbIeXQ

Garhauer 3:1/6:1 two speed mainsheet.  Harken traveler with 4:1 sheeting.
The traveler sheet cleats are swivel cleats mounted on the cockpit
bulkhead.  The swivel functionality allows the helmsperson or crew in the
cockpit to operate the traveler sheet.  Note: the traveler pictures show
the old Harken 6:1 Carboratchet system I had before the Garhauer.  It
worked well also.
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 10:13 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you
> operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that
> runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
> Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?
>
> My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about
> looks like it could do the job.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Joe;

 

Not sure that my experience with my 38 is comparable to your 35, but suspect 
there isn’t a huge difference in sail area or loading.

 

I have a 3:1 mainsheet arrangement on a bridge deck traveler. All the hardware 
and the traveler are Garhauer. The mainsheet is arranged so the upper end of 
the sheet goes forward  under the boom, down to the deck, and then back to a 
clutch and Barient 25 self-tailing winch next to the companionway in case 
someone needs to grunt the boom in during heavy winds. (It’s the same winch 
used for the main halyard.)

 

When I was racing regularly, my 75ish year old mainsheet trimmer had no real 
problems with the 3:1, but then we used the 6:1 Garhauer traveler for most of 
the fine adjustments other than at a mark rounding, and I could feather the 
helm to reduce the effort when he was trimming in winds above about 12-14 true. 
 The block/cam cleat on the mainsheet and the 6:1 traveler lines are both set 
up so it is easy for me to adjust from the helm when single handing – which is 
what I do most of the time. I suppose we’ve used the Barient winch for the main 
sheet a half dozen times or so in the past few years.

 

My main reason for going with 3:1 vs. something more complex like a 4:1/16:1 
was to keep a 70 or 80 foot long mainsheet out from underfoot (or tangled up 
down the companionway or tangled with the traveler lines).

 

Of course, YMMV.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:13 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List C 35 Mainsheet

 

Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you 
operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that 
runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?

My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about looks 
like it could do the job.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Josh via CnC-List]

Here's my setup.  Should be adaptable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUGnNAGsDo

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

Jul 15, 2022 11:39:33 Bill Coleman via CnC-List :

> Josh has an amazing mainsheet setup, I thought I bookmarked it, but can't 
> find it.
> I think if you are not racing a 4:1 would work, just feather up and pull.
> 
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie PA
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:13 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you 
>> operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that 
>> runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
>> Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?
>> 
>> My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about looks 
>> like it could do the job.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joe Della Barba
>> 
>> Coquina C 35 MK I
>> 
>> Kent Island MD USA
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 

Stus-List Re: Non- Gooey VHF handheld

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

Did you handle Deet / mosquito repellent with radio.  It will soften some 
plastics.  Try cleaning it with acetone before you pitch it.

Get Outlook for Android

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 12:01:46 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Non- Gooey VHF handheld

I am afraid I'm going to have to ditch my standard horizon 850 handheld. It has 
gotten so gooey, I can't stand to touch it, not to mention any place I leave 
it, it leaves gooey stuff. I blame the company for outsourcing to China. I 
wonder if anybody has a handheld that they feel the rubber is of a decent 
quality that it won't go to hell in a hand basket in a few years? I'm kind of 
looking for a mid-grade, maybe like an Icon m73 plus? I like the idea of being 
able to repeat the last minute of audio, as I have gotten so accustomed to 
backing up on my TV when I can't hear something clearly.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Donald Kern via CnC-List]

Joe,
I believe the Mk1's Mainsheet traveler is just in front of the helm 
whereas mine (Mk2) is at the bridge deck (seat) aft of the 
companionway.  I have changed over to a multi line 4:1 course line and a 
4:1 fine trim line which gives me a 16:1 advantage on the fine tune. The 
16:1 is a big advantage in racing for final trim of the main and the 
ability to release/ease the main when overpowered or rounding the upwind 
mark.


If you go to the Harken catalog 
 page 258,  my set 
up is similar to the 4:1/16:1 Gross/Fine, except I replaced the two "A" 
(#2600) blocks with a single, mid range, double block #2602 on the 
boom.  Because of the location of the traveler, low on the bridge deck i 
flipped the cams over so the release is an upward motion and to lock is 
a downward pull. The change was done in 2017 and  I can't tell from the 
catalog if the current cams will allow you to remount them.  The reason 
for the change is that the traveler being located at the forward end of 
cockpit it was difficult to release the mainsheet from the helm.


Hope this helps,

Don Kern
/Fireball,/ C Mk2
Bristol, RI


On 7/15/2022 11:13 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:


Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that 
you operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock 
system that runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?

Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?

My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about 
looks like it could do the job.


Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hey Joe,
4:1 mainsheet is fine for the light winds of Chesapeake Bay until the wind 
fills in and then 6:1 would be much better.  4:1 with a fine tune added would 
be the best solution.  The C 99 has a 4:1 / 8:1 mainsheet that works well.

My 34R has 5:1 with a 20:1 double ended fine tune.  This allows me to release 
the mainsheet in a very controlled manner when it's heavily loaded, rounding 
the windward mark. 

Where is your traveller now?

Chuck S

> On 07/15/2022 11:13 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
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> Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you 
> operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that 
> runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
> Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?
> 
> My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about 
> looks like it could do the job.
> 
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> 
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> 
> Joe Della Barba
> 
> Coquina C 35 MK I
> 
> Kent Island MD USA
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>  
> 

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Jonathan Tebbens via CnC-List]

I have 5:1 on my Mega, with a comparable sized main. I race on a 35 and it
has 6:1 - a triple on the boom and a double w becket on top of a ratchet
and cleat on the traveller. We blew a sheave one day and dropped to 5:1.
Not nearly so manageable.
Jon Tebbens
78 Mega
Katherine

On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, 11:39 Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Josh has an amazing mainsheet setup, I thought I bookmarked it, but can't
> find it.
> I think if you are not racing a 4:1 would work, just feather up and pull.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Entrada, Erie PA
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:13 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you
>> operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that
>> runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
>> Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?
>>
>> My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about
>> looks like it could do the job.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe Della Barba
>>
>> Coquina C 35 MK I
>>
>> Kent Island MD USA
>>
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>>
>>
>

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Joe,

Touche' has endboom mainsheet with two speed 3:1/6:1 purchase and line
control traveler with 4:1 purchase.  I can operate both from helm.

Is that what you're asking about?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022, 10:13 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you
> operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that
> runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
> Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?
>
> My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about
> looks like it could do the job.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: C 35 Mainsheet

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Josh has an amazing mainsheet setup, I thought I bookmarked it, but can't
find it.
I think if you are not racing a 4:1 would work, just feather up and pull.

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA


On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:13 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you
> operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that
> runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
> Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?
>
> My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about
> looks like it could do the job.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
>

Stus-List C 35 Mainsheet

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Has anyone changed their 35 to a multi-part tackle and cam cleat that you 
operate from the traveler back at the helm instead of the stock system that 
runs a line up to the mast and back to a cabin top winch?
Would 4:1 be enough or would 6:1 be better?

My preventer is a pretty big 4 part and cam cleat setup, it just about looks 
like it could do the job.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

Stus-List Standard Horizon VHF gone Gooey

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I am afraid I'm going to have to ditch my standard horizon 850 handheld. It
has gotten so gooey, I can't stand to touch it, not to mention any place I
leave it, it leaves gooey stuff. I blame the company for outsourcing to
China. ( suppose all of them are made there now, unfortunately. ) I wonder
if anybody has a handheld that they feel the rubber is of a
decent quality that it won't go to hell in a handbasket in a few years?
I'm kind of looking for a mid-grade, maybe like an Icon m73 plus? Also just
found this, a Cobra MR HH600. The only thing this doesn't have is AIS.   I
like the idea of being able to repeat the last minute of audio, as I have
gotten. Has anyone had a Cobra for several years that the rubber is still
in good shape? (Not gooey)
So accustomed to backing up on my TV when I can't hear something clearly, I
sometimes find myself wanting to push a button when someone is talking to
me-.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA