Stus-List Mac Navigation options?

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

I have an on-deck ChartPlotter at the helm and while I’m a fan of Navionics on 
an iPhone… it’s so small! 

I don’t have an iPad or tablet but I do have a great Mac laptop I don’t use — 
it would make a great on-board navigation station. What software and charts are 
good? Navionics on a laptop runs through the web so that’s not a viable option. 
I saw OpenCPN but I can’t seem to find any raster or vector charts for Eastern 
Canada. 

Anybody running anything good?

Thanks, Dean
  
—
BarraWind
1980 C 34
Halifax NS
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Stus-List Red Jacket needs a new lover

[Motion Designs Limited via CnC-List]

Red Jacket needs to find a home.  She’s been the market for a year and storage 
fees are mounting so the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston is a 
motivated seller.   Why do I bring this up ?   The rumour mill ( which I 
confirmed ) someone ( Top management at the Marine Museum says it wasn’t them ) 
called the ship breaker and asked what the value of her as scrap was …..We 
will never let her go to scrap, that is for sure but she needs someone who has 
the passion ( and resources ) to take care of her.  

JohnKelly Cuthbertson 
www.candcyachts.com
Motion Designs Limited

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Stus-List Re: winter storage, boatstands

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Agree,our yards always use plywood pads, but 1/2" plywood seems too thin, too 
weak and I always find pads with the leg penetrating several wood layers, or 
through and many pads are reused while the show cracks through several layers.  
I'd rather supply solid 3/4" pads for my stands and end the worry and avoid any 
drama.
 
C

> On 10/19/2023 12:44 PM EDT wolf...@erie.net wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Placement of jackstand legs on plywood pieces is mandatory at my Club.
> 
>  
> 
> From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 12:31 PM
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: wolf...@erie.net
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re:winter storage, boatstands
> 
>  
> 
> One problem with jackstands is settling. The legs dig a hole in the ground.
> 
> Many boatyards don't check their stands after they block the boat. 
> 
>  
> 
> When my boat is on the hard, I make it a point to visit the boat regularly 
> and tighten up the jackscrews, before climbing aboard.  I usually find that 
> one or two need tighening, but it is important to not overdo it.  The keel is 
> supposed to support 90% of the boat weight and the jackstands carry only 10%. 
>Brownell has a few videos that explain how their jackstands should be 
> placed and how the chain is tensioned.   https://boatstands.com/proper-use/ 
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fboatstands.com%2fproper-use%2f=E,1,fRaOFpS31u_-NGuJYMC2SSmgXI3zUxO5oAgkFoVRM6wTHXFYm3zvWLhAjYr6R2-E_X_W8vLpa5xpGtJY20fL0veGM5mzL2bMgJjq_v-9GcYPDQ,,=1_add=1
> 
>  
> 
> I occasionally check the boats around me to be assured they are safe.  If I 
> find they need adjusting, I ask the yard workers to check them.  They usually 
> thank me, and if the manager is decent, he will have his guys check all the 
> stands across the yard.
> 
>  
> 
> In my area, the boatyards are mostly gravel or loose stone and the legs of 
> the typical jackstand are placed onto 4" plywood squares cut from 1/2" 
> plywood.  I made a set of pads for my boat's stands from 3/4" plywood and cut 
> them 6" square to spread the load better. 
> 
>  
> 
> Boatyards don't allow owners to move stands, so any stand work has to be done 
> discreetly, and quietly.
> 
>  
> 
> C
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> > 
> > On 10/19/2023 11:00 AM EDT Matt Wolford via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > FWIW, cradles are usually better than jack stands.  My club in Erie 
> > considered eliminating cradles a number of years ago (to save space), then 
> > reversed course because cradles are typically more stable than jack stands.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > A related consideration is how the cradle is constructed.  I modified my 
> > cradle by having two pieces of steel beam welded to the cradle on each side 
> > of the keel.  The steel pieces were modified to hold pads which push 
> > against the sides of the keel to prevent keel movement.  I did this because 
> > – according to yard personnel -- when a sailboat is pushed off a cradle due 
> > to high winds, the movement usually starts at the base of the keel.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:19 AM
> > To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>
> > Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in 
> > a winter storm.  He now has no mast.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat 
> > from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in 
> > three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Food for thought
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Mike Hoyt
> > 
> > Persistence
> > 
> > Halifax, NS
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Bob Mann via CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
> > To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> > Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net>
> > Subject: Stus-List winter storage
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those 
> > who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or 
> > do you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
> > ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those 
> > who store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or 
> > do you loosen the shrouds for the winter?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Bob Mann
> > 
> > Mystic
> > 
> > Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and 
> > help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:
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> > Thanks for your help.
> > Stu
> > 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Strange pipe

[Allen Miles via CnC-List]

In the days of paper NOAA charts, they were rolled and stored in the tube

Allen Miles
1990 30-2
Septima
Cedar Creek NJ

On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 12:33 PM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Possible cable trace for instruments, engine monitors sent to nav station?
>
> Get Outlook for Android 
> --
> *From:* Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2023 8:59:54 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> *Cc:* Doug Mountjoy 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Strange pipe
>
> So I was working on my boat today checking the thru hulls. And found a 3in
> dia 3 FT long piece of PVC pipe under and otbd ov the aft head sink. I
> looks like it was factory installed. One end is plugged with a flush teak
> plug. The open end went through the bulkhead into the space below the nav
> table.
> Maybe someone here has a clue, because I don't.
> I'm getting ready to splash for the winter here.
> Thanks
>
>
> Douglas Mountjoy
> 1988 C LF 39
> Mexico at large
> 1984 Sabre 34
> Port Orchard, WA
>
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Stus-List Re: winter storage, boatstands

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

Placement of jackstand legs on plywood pieces is mandatory at my Club.

 

From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER  
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 12:31 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: wolf...@erie.net
Subject: Re: Stus-List Re:winter storage, boatstands

 

One problem with jackstands is settling. The legs dig a hole in the ground.

Many boatyards don't check their stands after they block the boat.  

  

When my boat is on the hard, I make it a point to visit the boat regularly and 
tighten up the jackscrews, before climbing aboard.  I usually find that one or 
two need tighening, but it is important to not overdo it.  The keel is supposed 
to support 90% of the boat weight and the jackstands carry only 10%.
Brownell has a few videos that explain how their jackstands should be placed 
and how the chain is tensioned.   https://boatstands.com/proper-use/ 

  

  

I occasionally check the boats around me to be assured they are safe.  If I 
find they need adjusting, I ask the yard workers to check them.  They usually 
thank me, and if the manager is decent, he will have his guys check all the 
stands across the yard.

  

In my area, the boatyards are mostly gravel or loose stone and the legs of the 
typical jackstand are placed onto 4" plywood squares cut from 1/2" plywood.  I 
made a set of pads for my boat's stands from 3/4" plywood and cut them 6" 
square to spread the load better.  

  

Boatyards don't allow owners to move stands, so any stand work has to be done 
discreetly, and quietly. 

  

C 

  

  

  

  

  

On 10/19/2023 11:00 AM EDT Matt Wolford via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: 

  

  

FWIW, cradles are usually better than jack stands.  My club in Erie considered 
eliminating cradles a number of years ago (to save space), then reversed course 
because cradles are typically more stable than jack stands.

 

A related consideration is how the cradle is constructed.  I modified my cradle 
by having two pieces of steel beam welded to the cradle on each side of the 
keel.  The steel pieces were modified to hold pads which push against the sides 
of the keel to prevent keel movement.  I did this because – according to yard 
personnel -- when a sailboat is pushed off a cradle due to high winds, the 
movement usually starts at the base of the keel.  

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:19 AM
To: 'Stus-List' mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Hoyt, Mike mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com> >
Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage

 

Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
winter storm.  He now has no mast.

 

With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from 
blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three 
areas.  The boat was on a cradle.

 

Food for thought

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS

 

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? 

  

Bob Mann 

Mystic 

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Stus-List Re: Strange pipe

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

Possible cable trace for instruments, engine monitors sent to nav station?

Get Outlook for Android

From: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2023 8:59:54 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Doug Mountjoy 
Subject: Stus-List Strange pipe

So I was working on my boat today checking the thru hulls. And found a 3in dia 
3 FT long piece of PVC pipe under and otbd ov the aft head sink. I looks like 
it was factory installed. One end is plugged with a flush teak plug. The open 
end went through the bulkhead into the space below the nav table.
Maybe someone here has a clue, because I don't.
I'm getting ready to splash for the winter here.
Thanks


Douglas Mountjoy
1988 C LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA

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Stus-List Re: winter storage, boatstands

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

One problem with jackstands is settling. The legs dig a hole in the ground.
Many boatyards don't check their stands after they block the boat. 
 
When my boat is on the hard, I make it a point to visit the boat regularly and 
tighten up the jackscrews, before climbing aboard.  I usually find that one or 
two need tighening, but it is important to not overdo it.  The keel is supposed 
to support 90% of the boat weight and the jackstands carry only 10%.
Brownell has a few videos that explain how their jackstands should be placed 
and how the chain is tensioned.   https://boatstands.com/proper-use/
 
I occasionally check the boats around me to be assured they are safe.  If I 
find they need adjusting, I ask the yard workers to check them.  They usually 
thank me, and if the manager is decent, he will have his guys check all the 
stands across the yard.
 
In my area, the boatyards are mostly gravel or loose stone and the legs of the 
typical jackstand are placed onto 4" plywood squares cut from 1/2" plywood.  I 
made a set of pads for my boat's stands from 3/4" plywood and cut them 6" 
square to spread the load better. 
 
Boatyards don't allow owners to move stands, so any stand work has to be done 
discreetly, and quietly.
 
C
 
 
 
 
 

> On 10/19/2023 11:00 AM EDT Matt Wolford via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> FWIW, cradles are usually better than jack stands.  My club in Erie 
> considered eliminating cradles a number of years ago (to save space), then 
> reversed course because cradles are typically more stable than jack stands.
> 
>  
> 
> A related consideration is how the cradle is constructed.  I modified my 
> cradle by having two pieces of steel beam welded to the cradle on each side 
> of the keel.  The steel pieces were modified to hold pads which push against 
> the sides of the keel to prevent keel movement.  I did this because – 
> according to yard personnel -- when a sailboat is pushed off a cradle due to 
> high winds, the movement usually starts at the base of the keel.  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:19 AM
> To: 'Stus-List' 
> Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
> Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage
> 
>  
> 
> Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
> winter storm.  He now has no mast.
> 
>  
> 
> With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat 
> from blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in 
> three areas.  The boat was on a cradle.
> 
>  
> 
> Food for thought
> 
>  
> 
> Mike Hoyt
> 
> Persistence
> 
> Halifax, NS
> 
>  
> 
> From: Bob Mann via CnC-List  mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
> To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net>
> Subject: Stus-List winter storage
> 
>  
> 
> Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
> store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do 
> you loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
> ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
> 
>  
> 
> Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
> store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do 
> you loosen the shrouds for the winter?
> 
>  
> 
> Bob Mann
> 
> Mystic
> 
> Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
> me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at:
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> Thanks for your help.
> Stu
> 
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Stus-List Re: Strange pipe

[Tom Sutton via CnC-List]

Chart storage? Tom S Sent from Mail for Windows From: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-ListSent: October 19, 2023 12:09 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Doug MountjoySubject: Stus-List Strange pipe So I was working on my boat today checking the thru hulls. And found a 3in dia 3 FT long piece of PVC pipe under and otbd ov the aft head sink. I looks like it was factory installed. One end is plugged with a flush teak plug. The open end went through the bulkhead into the space below the nav table. Maybe someone here has a clue, because I don't. I'm getting ready to splash for the winter here. Thanks   Douglas Mountjoy1988 C LF 39Mexico at large1984 Sabre 34Port Orchard, WA     Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
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Stus-List Strange pipe

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

So I was working on my boat today checking the thru hulls. And found a 3in
dia 3 FT long piece of PVC pipe under and otbd ov the aft head sink. I
looks like it was factory installed. One end is plugged with a flush teak
plug. The open end went through the bulkhead into the space below the nav
table.
Maybe someone here has a clue, because I don't.
I'm getting ready to splash for the winter here.
Thanks


Douglas Mountjoy
1988 C LF 39
Mexico at large
1984 Sabre 34
Port Orchard, WA
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Stus-List Re: winter storage

[Matt Wolford via CnC-List]

FWIW, cradles are usually better than jack stands.  My club in Erie considered 
eliminating cradles a number of years ago (to save space), then reversed course 
because cradles are typically more stable than jack stands.

 

A related consideration is how the cradle is constructed.  I modified my cradle 
by having two pieces of steel beam welded to the cradle on each side of the 
keel.  The steel pieces were modified to hold pads which push against the sides 
of the keel to prevent keel movement.  I did this because – according to yard 
personnel -- when a sailboat is pushed off a cradle due to high winds, the 
movement usually starts at the base of the keel.  

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:19 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Subject: Stus-List Re: winter storage

 

Re mast up.  A friend stored his C 33-2 with mast up and it blew over in a 
winter storm.  He now has no mast.

 

With mast down possibly the reduced windage would have prevented the boat from 
blowing over but certainly would have not resulted in a mast broken in three 
areas.  The boat was on a cradle.

 

Food for thought

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS

 

From: Bob Mann via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 10:45 AM
To: Stus-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Cc: Bob Mann mailto:sailrm...@comcast.net> >
Subject: Stus-List winter storage

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April. For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? Bob Mann Mystic ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 
‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ 

 

Here in Michigan it's time to winterize our boats until April.  For those who 
store their boat with the mast up, do you leave shroud tension alone or do you 
loosen the shrouds for the winter? 

  

Bob Mann 

Mystic 

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